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Speaker 2: end of my conversation with former NFL offensive lineman Ross Tucker.

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Speaker 2: He is the host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast,

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Speaker 2: serves as an analyst on NFL radio broadcast for Westwood One,

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Speaker 2: and as a frequent guest on The Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 2: He took time out of his jam pack schedule to

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Speaker 2: join me this week. The big news in the NFL

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Speaker 2: so far this week is Philadelphia signing Jalen Hurts to

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Speaker 2: a five year, two hundred and fifty five million dollar deal,

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Speaker 2: one seventy nine guaranteed. Do you consider that good news

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Speaker 2: or bad news for the Bengals as they try to

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Speaker 2: extend Joe Burrows.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess probably bad news, Dan. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: positive side of it would be that they've got a

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Speaker 1: terms of what Jalen got. I guess the bad news

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Speaker 1: is the floor of whatever Joe was going to get.

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Speaker 1: I think has just Risen right, I mean, I would

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Speaker 1: be shocked if he accepted less than Jalen Hurts based

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Speaker 1: on what Joe's done the last couple of years, you know,

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Speaker 1: like anybody else, I don't think they're looking for just

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Speaker 1: don't know what you guys in Cincinnati were thinking that

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Speaker 1: Joe would get, but he's going to get somewhere between

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Speaker 1: fifty two and fifty five million dollars a year now,

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Speaker 1: would be my guess.

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Speaker 3: Ross.

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Speaker 2: After the Hurt deal was announced, you tweeted out this question,

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Speaker 2: ranked the following in order of who you would most

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Speaker 2: want as your quarterback for the next five years, Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert or Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 3: How do you answer that question?

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Speaker 1: Well, the first thing I would say, Dan is what's

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Speaker 1: so interesting about that is it's not unanimous. But there

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Speaker 1: was a heavy consensus that Lamar Jackson was last, and

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Speaker 1: a heavy consensus that Joe Burrow was first. And I'm

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Speaker 1: sure everybody in Cincinnati would agree with that, and I

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Speaker 1: think Joe Burrow is probably won, although I will say

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts based on the improvement he made from year

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Speaker 1: especially for short yarded situations. I think Hurts is nipping

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Speaker 1: this past year, and I'm just so impressed by that guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he is he is the modern day Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 2: Ross Tucker Football podcast. You can follow him on social

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Speaker 2: media at Ross Tucker, NFL. You played offensive line in

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Speaker 2: the NFL for five years. I have two Orlando Brown

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's a lot to like there from a

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Speaker 1: Bengals perspective. Number One, I think he's an above average

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Speaker 1: solidified with Joe Burrow's backside protector for years to come,

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Speaker 1: just really liked the mindset and the message that it

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Speaker 3: I think that's fair.

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Speaker 2: And yet, if you look back over the last several years,

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Speaker 2: start thinking differently about how the Bengals approach free agency.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they have been a little bit more aggressive.

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Speaker 1: You're right in recent years. I guess the Hendrickson thing,

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Speaker 1: it's the draft or free agency. I just don't think

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Speaker 2: host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. You can follow

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Speaker 2: him on social media at Ross Tucker NFL. Some of

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Speaker 2: the Bengals' biggest question marks right now include who is

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Speaker 2: the right tackle, will Joe Mixon remain their top running back?

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Speaker 2: Are they okay at safety after losing Bates and Bell?

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Speaker 2: What's at the top of your Bengals questions list?

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Speaker 1: Well, what's interesting about right tackle is you know, right

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Speaker 1: I also wouldn't be surprised if the Bengals drafted a

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Speaker 1: I thought they would find a way to keep one

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Speaker 1: Nick Scott will be a good fit in Louisanna Rumo's defense.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big Nick Scott guy, very bright, big time hitter.

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Speaker 1: So I think that they'll be okay at safety. I

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Speaker 1: you know, with what's Joe's supposed to be making and

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Speaker 1: still looked good to me Dan in that in that

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Speaker 1: he was still pounding. Now, how much of that was

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think when you look at their roster right now,

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Speaker 1: a possibility that the Bengals could go tight end because

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Speaker 2: And the IRV Smith junior deal was only for one year,

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Speaker 2: so they're definitely still in the market for a tight

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Speaker 2: end ross. I'm interested in how likable you think the

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Speaker 2: players use the term Burrowhead instead of arrowhead. Where are

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Speaker 2: you right now? In the Bengals likability.

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Speaker 1: Very high, very high. And I'll give you a couple

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Speaker 2: Blackburn are Ivy leaguers. They went to Dartmouth, you went

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Speaker 2: You said you were the two thousand and one draft,

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Speaker 2: that's right. So the Bengals took Justin Smith, Chad Johnson,

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Speaker 1: And on the offensive line, they took Victor Lava, and

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Speaker 2: Guys, all right, final topic for Ross Tucker and I

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Speaker 2: appreciate your time. We're going to get away from football

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Speaker 2: for a second because Mother's Day is about three weeks away.

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Speaker 3: My mom is eighty five.

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Speaker 2: so I'm not going to give anything away. You have

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Speaker 2: I've been on the website. There are different packages available.

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Speaker 3: Ross. This has been fun.

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Speaker 2: Love your work, especially your weekly conversations with Greg co Sell.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for giving us some of your time today.

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Speaker 1: My pleasure. Dan, Thank you so much for reaching out.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I am highly confident that my loving

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Speaker 2: This week mark the start of the Bengals OTAs, or

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Speaker 2: last year. Nearly every time I've been in the stadium

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Speaker 2: this offseason, I've seen Chitabey Awoojie diligently working out. He

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Speaker 2: Brown's track record speaks for itself. His peers have chosen

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Speaker 2: him for the Pro Bowl in each of the last

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Speaker 2: four seasons, and he says that will naturally make him

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Speaker 2: one of the leaders in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 6: You know, that's the thing about football, man, is you

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Speaker 6: know the office always stick out, and you know the

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Speaker 6: guys that are you know, competitive and all of those things.

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Speaker 6: I rushed the occasion, and that's how your respect is earned,

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Speaker 6: you know, from your peers. So man, I just look

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Speaker 6: forward to, you know, getting out there and being able

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Speaker 6: to compete with these guys and showing who showing who

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Speaker 6: I am.

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Speaker 2: Orlando is very familiar with his new team. He faced

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Speaker 2: the Bengals twice a year and three seasons of the

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Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens and four times over the last two seasons

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Speaker 2: with Kansas City, including a pair of AFC Championship games.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's definitely interesting, man, you know, obviously being on

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Speaker 6: the other side for the last few years in Baltimore

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Speaker 6: and Kansas City, so it's definitely different. But I mean,

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Speaker 6: I'm just I'm so happy and excited, so blessed to

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Speaker 6: be a part of it. Though, you know what I

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Speaker 6: mean from Afar, you know you can tell how special

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Speaker 6: it is and to be able to come in and

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Speaker 6: be in it, you know, ten holes, I mean, it's

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Speaker 6: it's awesome.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals hope that Brown will significantly improve the pass

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Speaker 2: protection for Joe Burrow and their new mammoth left tackle.

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Speaker 2: Says he'll fit right in with his new offensive line teammates.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I think, man, they play with a lot

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Speaker 6: of fire, to be honest, a lot of finish. I

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Speaker 6: feel like that's something that really stuck out to me.

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Speaker 6: A lot of guys doing the little things right, jogging

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Speaker 6: down to help of receivers or quarterbacks or whoever downfield,

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Speaker 6: getting involved being around the ball shown up on the screen.

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Speaker 6: I feel I did do the little things right.

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Speaker 2: Brown has an ever present smile and a joyful personality.

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Speaker 2: He'll be a great addition to the Bengals locker room.

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Speaker 2: Visit ketteringhealth dot org to learn more. Now time for

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Speaker 2: our eighth and final edition of a three round mock

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Speaker 2: draft with an NFL expert. Here's the concept. When I

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Speaker 2: attended the NFL Combine this year, I had the Pro

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Speaker 2: Football Focus mock draft simulator set up on my laptop

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Speaker 2: and invited several NFL experts to make the Bengals picks

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Speaker 2: in the first three rounds while discussing their options. If

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Speaker 2: you've never tried a draft simulator before, it allows you

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Speaker 2: to play Bengals GM for as many rounds of the

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Speaker 2: draft as you want, but the simulator begins making picks

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Speaker 2: in order, and then when it's your turn, you can

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Speaker 2: make trades or go ahead and pick. It's a great

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Speaker 2: way to get to know the players who might be

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Speaker 2: available when the Bengals are on the clock next week.

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Speaker 2: So far, our experts have chosen the following players in

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Speaker 2: the first round. Three have selected Utah tight end Dalton Kincaid,

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Speaker 2: two have picked Maryland cornerback Deontay Banks, one chose Notre

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Speaker 2: Dame tight end Michael Mayer, and another chose Oregon State

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Speaker 2: tight end Luke Musgrave. In the second round, two experts

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Speaker 2: picked Northwestern defensive linemen at A Tommy wa at a Bare.

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Speaker 2: The other picks were Washington State linebacker Dayon Henley, Syracuse

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Speaker 2: offensive tackle Matthew Bergeron Illinois safety Sydney Brown, Texas A

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Speaker 2: and M safety Antonio Johnson, and Kansas State cornerback Julius Brents.

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Speaker 2: And in the third round, there have been seven different

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Speaker 2: picks Iowa tight end Sam Laporta, BYU offensive tackled Blake Freeland,

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Speaker 2: Maryland cornerback jacoryan Bennett, TCU cornerback Trey Hodges, Tomlinson, UAB

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Speaker 2: running back Dwayne McBride, Texas A and M running back

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Speaker 2: Devon a Chain, and Missouri edge rusher Isaiah McGuire. After

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Speaker 2: you make your picks on the simulator, PFF gives you

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Speaker 2: a grade, and the highest mark so far has been

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Speaker 2: an A for Sam Monson from Pro Football Focus. Now

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Speaker 2: time for contestant number eight, a Bengals reporter who has

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Speaker 2: been publishing a series of mock drafts for several years

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Speaker 2: for a local TV station in Cincinnati. Richard Skinner from

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Speaker 2: Local twelve here in Cincinnati is the next person to

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Speaker 2: take part in our three round mock draft with a

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Speaker 2: draft expert. We're using the PFF Mock Draft Simulator. The

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Speaker 2: best grade we have so far as an a that

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Speaker 2: was Sam Monson, who works for PFF, so he had

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Speaker 2: a bit of an advantage there. Now, I consider you

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Speaker 2: to be like Cincinnati's number one mock draft guy.

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Speaker 7: You have been quite an honor, Dan for sure, to

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Speaker 7: be known as that guy.

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Speaker 4: So sure, I'll take the honor.

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Speaker 2: You've been cranking out the mock drafts though for many

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Speaker 2: years well.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, honestly in the down years where they were kind

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Speaker 7: of out of things by mid season and you kind

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Speaker 7: of had to start doing mock drafts a whole lot earlier.

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Speaker 7: In the last two years, I haven't gotten to my

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Speaker 7: first mock I don't think until right before and or

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Speaker 7: right after the combine. So that's both positive for my

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Speaker 7: workflow and for the Bengals being good too.

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Speaker 2: All Right, So we've got the PFF simulator set up,

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Speaker 2: We've got it at a reasonable speed. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: hit enter draft. We'll take a look at some of

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Speaker 2: the guys that fly off the board, and then we

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Speaker 2: will discuss maybe somebody that you wish had still been

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Speaker 2: there and take a look at the remaining options before

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Speaker 2: you make your pick. Trades are not allowed. So here

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Speaker 2: we go the Bengals selecting twenty eighth in the first

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Speaker 2: round and the draft is underway. Bryce you, I'm going

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Speaker 2: number one, cee J. Stroud going number two, Will Levis

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Speaker 2: going in the top ten, as did Anthony Richardson. So

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00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 2: four quarterbacks went in the top ten. Bjean Robinson went

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Speaker 2: prior to pick twenty, so Bengals fans hoping that he

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Speaker 2: will be selected by Cincinnati do not get their wish

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Speaker 2: in this Richard Skinner mock draft. Dalton Kincaid, the tight

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Speaker 2: end from Utah, was just selected one pick before the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: He just went to the Buffalo Bills and picked a

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Speaker 2: number twenty seven. So you are now on the clock.

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Speaker 2: Did anybody go off the board within a few picks

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Speaker 2: of the Bengals selection that you were hoping to still

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Speaker 2: be there?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Elijah Cantsey, I would hope might have been an option,

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Speaker 7: but I think in real life he probably will be

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Speaker 7: going anyway too, So it's kind of good for my sake.

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Speaker 4: I don't have to make that decision. He's gone. Kinkaid

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Speaker 4: is the first tight end off the board.

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Speaker 7: I think that's probably expected, but that does leave me

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Speaker 7: with a very tough choice because there is another tight

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Speaker 7: end on the board. I know him personally, I coached

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Speaker 7: basketball against him, and I like Michael Marin awful lot.

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Speaker 7: So Dan, I've done a couple of mockers you mentioned already,

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Speaker 7: one of them through the PFF simulator.

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Speaker 4: I did two in the same day.

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Speaker 7: In the same story where I did take Michael Mayer

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Speaker 7: went that route, then in another one where Michael was selected,

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Speaker 7: it kind of take it out of my hand, so

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Speaker 7: I went a different route, just to see what that

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Speaker 7: how that was going to play out and when a

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Speaker 7: tight end might come back up. But I think for

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Speaker 7: me at this stage, I think I have to take

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Speaker 7: Michael Mayor. I think he's going to be his His

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Speaker 7: ceiling is maybe not as high as you'd like it

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Speaker 7: to be, but I think his floor is NFL ready

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Speaker 7: tight end for the next ten years. They do have

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Speaker 7: two guys on a one year stop gap, which your

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Speaker 7: Erv Smith and Andrew sample. I think for me my

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Speaker 7: pick here at this point, even though Emmanuel Forbes is

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Speaker 7: on the board, It's a tough one for me because

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Speaker 7: I love corners. I'm gonna go with Michael Mayor from

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Speaker 7: Notre Dame. And I say that knowing that I've done

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Speaker 7: this through PFF and it gives me a C plus

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Speaker 7: grade for this big So I'm doing that knowing that.

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Speaker 2: Dan Well, I'll tell you this, the grades have changed

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Speaker 2: since the first time that I did this, so they're

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Speaker 2: constantly updating their formula. Anton Harrison, the tackle from Oklahoma,

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Speaker 2: also still available. But with Harrison and Emmanuel Forbes all

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Speaker 2: being there and Michael Mayer, you are selecting tight end

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Speaker 2: Michael Mayer from Notre Dame.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: And one quick point on the offensive lineman, I think

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Speaker 7: this franchise and this personnel group has kind of learned

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Speaker 7: the lesson of first round picks for offensive linemen are

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Speaker 7: just really almost wasted.

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Speaker 4: Capital because you don't know.

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Speaker 7: That's the one position group you don't know, and you

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Speaker 7: go to Billy Price Interior, you can go to Cedrical Way.

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Speaker 7: I mean those picks at the time and Price was

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Speaker 7: maybe a bit of a reach, right, But I think

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Speaker 7: they've learned their lesson of guys with NFL tape. It's

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Speaker 7: why Orlando Brown's here, It's why Alex cap is here,

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Speaker 7: It's why Ted Carris is here. It's why Al Collins

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Speaker 7: was here. Doesn't mean you don't spend it. Quadell Wilson

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Speaker 7: was spent in the fourth round, but I think first

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Speaker 7: round capital Anton Harrison wasn't even consideration for me.

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Speaker 4: It was down to Forbes and Michael Mayer, and I'll

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Speaker 4: go Michael mahyor.

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Speaker 2: It seems that nearly all of the draft gurus have

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Speaker 2: Mayor and Utah's Dalton Kincaid ranked as the top two

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Speaker 2: tight ends in a deep tight end draft. Cancaid is

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Speaker 2: faster and the better receiver of the two. Mayor is

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Speaker 2: a solid receipt for breaking all of Notre Dame's position

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Speaker 2: records for catches and receiving yards, and he is the

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Speaker 2: better blocker of the two. Will either be there when

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Speaker 2: the Bengals are on the clock at number twenty eight,

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Speaker 2: well they're gone, and most of the mock drafts I've seen,

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Speaker 2: but you never know. The Bengals were stunned when Dax

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Speaker 2: Hill was still available at number thirty one last year.

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Speaker 2: They had him ranked just outside of the top ten

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Speaker 2: on their board. Now let's see who Local twelve's Richard

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Speaker 2: Skinner selected in round two. We move on to round two.

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Speaker 2: Dewan Jones was actually the last pick of the first

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Speaker 2: round in this mock draft. Darnell Washington, the tight end

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Speaker 2: from Georgia, was just selected, but you don't need a

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Speaker 2: tight end at this point. Luke Musgrave was also just selected.

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Speaker 2: So we have reached pick number sixty. This is the Bengals'

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Speaker 2: second round pick. Let's take a look at the guys

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Speaker 2: or some of the guys that were selected within a

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Speaker 2: few picks of number sixty.

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Speaker 7: Well, one of them is and I just took him

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Speaker 7: in the most recent mock draft I did right there

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Speaker 7: at fifty nine.

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Speaker 4: Eka, the defensive tackle from bail Or.

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Speaker 7: He's more of a nose tackle than he is a

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Speaker 7: three technique, and I think they're probably in the market

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Speaker 7: for a three technique. But DJ Readers contract is up

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Speaker 7: after this year. They do need interior depth. I got

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Speaker 7: lucky that I got him in the second round of

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Speaker 7: a mock draft I got so he's certainly if he

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Speaker 7: would have been on the board, he would have been

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Speaker 7: in my wheelhouse to take. So that's going to probably

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Speaker 7: make this pick a little bit more difficult for me.

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Speaker 2: Julius Brentz is a guy that I kind of like

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Speaker 2: as a possible second round pick, the cornerback from Kansas State,

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Speaker 2: but he went number forty eight to Detroit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I like him too, and I don't think he slips

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Speaker 7: to where the Bengals are. Ikea is an interesting one because,

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Speaker 7: like I said, I got him at sixty a different

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Speaker 7: mock draft. He literally went just this pick before. So

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Speaker 7: if he slides there, maybe they do get a chance

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Speaker 7: to take him.

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Speaker 2: So we are now looking at guys that are still

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Speaker 2: available in this mock draft for pick sixty in the

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Speaker 2: second round.

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Speaker 7: This is where see the Samuelport is on the board right,

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00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 7: So if I'd have gone the Forbes route, I would

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00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 7: have been more than comfortable to take Samuelport in the

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Speaker 7: second round. Nathaniel Dell, the wide receiver from houstoned him

656
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 7: in the fourth round of a draft I did, and

657
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 7: he is one that is literally all over the board,

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00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 7: depending on what board you look at, He's gonna put

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00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 7: instantaneously be a punt returner. He's really small, five six,

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00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 7: one hundred and sixty five pounds, But you know, with

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00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 7: Tyler Boyd's contract being up and he could slide into

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00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 7: the slot next year, this gives them probably a more

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00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 7: dynamic option than what they have on the roster for

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Speaker 7: a fourth receiver going into this year. Yeah, I gotta

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Speaker 7: go to the corner route, and I know Garrett Williams

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00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 7: is there too, He's got some injury issues. If the

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00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 7: kid from Sarahcuse should probably more familiar with him than

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Speaker 7: I am as a player. I just know of him

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Speaker 7: through the box I've done. I mocked him in an

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00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 7: early one in the second round, but then the injury

671
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 7: flags come up. I think I'm gonna go cornerback here,

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Speaker 7: and the best corner on the board is Tyreek Stevenson.

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00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 7: I think this is the time to get a ready

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Speaker 7: made corner, and to me, Tyreek Stevenson would be the

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00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 7: guy to go ahead and select. Garrett Williams is rated

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Speaker 7: right behind him, but I honestly don't think he's I

677
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 7: think he goes the fourth round, the fifth round because

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00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 7: of the injury red flags.

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00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 4: So I got Tyreek Stevenson from Miami, Florida.

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00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: Tyreek Stevenson started as college career at Georgia and spent

681
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: a couple of years there before finishing his career with

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00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: two seasons close to home at the University of Miami.

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00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: He's six feet tall with long arms, roughly two hundred

684
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: pounds and ran a four four five forty at the combine.

685
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: The Athletics Dane Brugler described Stevenson as a press man

686
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 2: corner with NFL starting ability and as him ranked number

687
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: sixty nine overall on his big board, he's number forty

688
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 2: six on the PFF version. Now time for Richard Skinner's

689
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: third round pick. Tyreek Stevenson selected with pick number sixties.

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00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: So you have Michael Mayer in round one, Tyreek Stevenson

691
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: in round two, and now we move on to the

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Speaker 2: third round.

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Speaker 4: I would have really love Tank Dell. I just wish

694
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 4: he was around further down.

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00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 7: Maybe I get lucky he sneaks through this round, but

696
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say absolutely not.

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00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 3: You did not get lucky.

698
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: He has just taken it pick number eighty one, so

699
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 2: you almost got there, but Tank Dell is gone. The

700
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 2: pick immediately before the Bengals was a running back Tank

701
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: Bigsby out of Auburn pick number ninety one. This is

702
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 2: pick number ninety two. Any position group that you're interested

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00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: in here, No, I'm.

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00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 4: Still and I'm with their boat. I'm best available for me.

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00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 7: If Tank Bigsby had been there, he would have certainly

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00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 7: been under consideration. I can't remember I took him in

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00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 7: one of my mocks already, Dan, I can't remember if

708
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 7: he was still there in the fourth round and I

709
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 7: got luckier, maybe I did go ahead and take him

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00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 7: in the third round.

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00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 4: Let's see what we got on the board right now.

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00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 7: In the third round, guys, I mean I could double

713
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 7: up easily with Trevius Hodges, Tomlinson, the cornerback from TCU.

714
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 7: I don't think I want to go the safety route.

715
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 7: Michael Wilson's probably more of a fourth or fifth round projection,

716
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 7: the wide receiver from Stanford.

717
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 4: I think I'm doubling up at cornerback. You know, Chenobia.

718
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 7: Wuzia's contract is up after this year.

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00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 4: You can never have enough of these guys.

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00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 7: I mean, no offense to Sidney Jones, the fourth He's

721
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 7: technically the fourth corner on the roster now, and you'd

722
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 7: probably like an upgrade from that. I know the Bengals,

723
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 7: Duke Tobin told us the other day or the day

724
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Speaker 7: that we were doing this mock, have to you know,

725
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 7: they don't double up on purpose a positions and this happenstance,

726
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 7: but they.

727
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 4: Do seem to do that.

728
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 7: I mean, they doubled up, triple up, quadrupled up on

729
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 7: linebacker the one year, right, and all those guys are

730
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 7: still on the roster.

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Speaker 4: So I'm going back to the cornerback round.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna go back to back corners and take Trevius

733
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Speaker 7: Hodges Tomlinson, the cornerback out of TCU.

734
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Speaker 2: Trey Hodges. Tomlinson is one of the smallest cornerbacks in

735
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 2: the draft. He's not quite five to eight and weighs

736
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy eight pounds, but he's fast, running

737
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: a four four forty and rabbit quick. Tomlinson won the

738
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Speaker 2: Jim Thorpe Award last year. Is the best defensive back

739
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: in college football with eighteen pass deflections and three interceptions.

740
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: He's ranked number fifty nine overall on the PFF Big Board.

741
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: Now time to find out how PFF graded Richard's picks.

742
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: All right, so you have selected a tight end and

743
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: two cornerbacks, and now we are going to find out

744
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: how pff it has graded.

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00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 7: Will like me because of the Michael Mayor selection. I

746
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 7: gotta be plus on the Michael Mahyor.

747
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: An A for Tyraeke Stevenson, an A plus for Trey

748
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: Hodges Tomlinson for an overall grade of A. You have

749
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Speaker 2: tied Sam Monson for the best grade for a three

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00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: round mock draft.

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00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 7: Yet, Yeah, I feel I looked into Trevis Hodges Tomlinson

752
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 7: because he's probably a second round talent for the most part.

753
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,959
Speaker 7: Now they have you mentioned it because the last time

754
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 7: I did this with them and took Michael Mayer, I

755
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 7: only got to C plus for the Michael Mayor pick

756
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 7: that's been upgraded to a B.

757
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 4: So I feel pretty good about it.

758
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 7: And then if I got out of the first two

759
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 7: days with this with potential starting depth at corner and

760
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 7: at least guys in the pipeline and a more dynamic

761
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 7: long term tight end, I'd feel pretty good about it.

762
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 7: I still need to address running back, and there are

763
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 7: a lot of fourth round, fifth round graded running backs

764
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 7: that can come in and be a rotational piece, and

765
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 7: I think that's all you're looking for out of this draft.

766
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 7: A few of the Bengals is a rotational running back,

767
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 7: and then I'm just filling in from there, whether it

768
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 7: be safety, take an offensive lineman in one of those

769
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 7: mid rounds. It's not wasted raft capital in the mid

770
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 7: round if it doesn't work out as a fifth round

771
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 7: or a fourth round guy, that's okay, but your first

772
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 7: two days you got to hit on. Guys are eventually

773
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 7: going to start, and I think all three of these

774
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 7: guys eventually start and have nice careers.

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00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: I am not surprised in the least.

776
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: Richard Skinner from Local twelve received an A for his

777
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 2: three round mac.

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00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 7: I feel I feel honored to have done it, and

779
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 7: I feel like I kind of got lucky that they

780
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 7: upgraded some of the guys that I like. Maybe that's

781
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 7: I don't know if that's a good sign or not,

782
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 7: but I feel better about it.

783
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: I appreciate your time. Thanks man.

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