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Speaker 1: they'll there'll be a lot of people lining up. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people think Dabbo Sweeney at Clemson is going

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Speaker 1: to take the job. Dabbo would be my choice if

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Speaker 1: he was willing to leave Clemson. Not sure he would

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Speaker 1: terrific coach. It's not a rebuild, but I do think

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Speaker 1: the transfer portal and the offer from a TV network

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Speaker 1: are the deciding factors. You just don't know about the

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Speaker 1: offer yet from the TV network. I can guarantee you

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Speaker 1: this is not just Nick just didn't wake up and

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Speaker 1: have a side of eggs and a piece of burnt

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Speaker 1: toast this morning and said, you know, I just gonna

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Speaker 1: see I just gotta retire. Nick's been thinking. Nick plans everything,

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Speaker 1: Nick strategizes everything. Nick Saban been thinking about this for

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Speaker 1: a while. And he sees young Lane Kiffen and here

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Speaker 1: comes Sark and here comes Brent Venables, and he, you know,

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Speaker 1: he starts looking around this conference and some of these

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Speaker 1: young guys and Lane Kiffen and he's like, come on, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean in my seventies. Do I want to be

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Speaker 1: on the road recruiting constantly all this transfer portal nonsense

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Speaker 1: where I have to recruit my own kids as much

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Speaker 1: as high school kids. No thanks, I'm out. So congrats

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Speaker 1: the nicksabe the greatest college football coach of all time.