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Speaker 1: Well, Happy Saturday, everybody. We are sort of combining shows here.

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Speaker 1: You've got the Tutor Dixon Podcast and the David Rutherford

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Speaker 1: Show here together this morning. We are gathering together because

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Speaker 1: we want to talk about everything. But I think first

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Speaker 1: and foremost, we have to say happy flag Day and

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Speaker 1: happy birthday, mister President.

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Speaker 2: Who do you think, Oh? Absolutely, man. Anybody that's made

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Speaker 2: it to his age seventy nine years old and after

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Speaker 2: two assassination attempts trying to ruin him for eight years,

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Speaker 2: that man deserves a hell of a party today.

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Speaker 1: For sure, and he is going to have one, which

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about because there's been

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Speaker 1: some controversy. People have come out and said he shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be doing this, and I wanted your opinion because I

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Speaker 1: think about this and I think our military has been

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Speaker 1: so destroyed over the past four years. The Biden administration

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Speaker 1: was so terrible to our military. There was no celebration,

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Speaker 1: but it wasn't even that. It was that they were humiliated.

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Speaker 1: They were fired for not taking a vaccine. It was diminished.

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Speaker 1: They were told that they were better off if they

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Speaker 1: were trans than if they were out there fighting. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was the woke involvement in the military was insane.

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Speaker 1: I think that to me, this is a really significant

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Speaker 1: move for President Trump to say we love you, we

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Speaker 1: honor you, we respect you, we think that you're incredible.

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. I mean, you know, I served under three

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Speaker 2: different presidents, right. I served under Clinton in the late

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Speaker 2: nineties when I was in the Seal Teams. I served

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Speaker 2: under you know, George Bush Junior at during nine to eleven,

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Speaker 2: post nine to eleven, and for black when I was

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Speaker 2: at Blackwater. And then I served under Obama when I

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Speaker 2: was at the Central Intelligence Agency, and you know, at

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Speaker 2: Clinton days, we had zero money for training, right, and

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Speaker 2: then after nine to eleven, the Golden Conics box opened

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Speaker 2: up and we established ourselves and our supreme dominance and

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Speaker 2: control over different areas in the world. And one of

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Speaker 2: the things that always kind of got me was, how

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Speaker 2: come we don't do the giant military parades. Why don't

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Speaker 2: we flex on the world stage like that? Now, some

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Speaker 2: people say you flex enough by all the different conflicts

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Speaker 2: you're engaging, But I just think when you flex it

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Speaker 2: for America in terms of that capacity, it really continues

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Speaker 2: to build morale, which is at an all time high

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Speaker 2: because of Pete and his crew at Pentagon, but it.

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Speaker 1: Was at an all time low. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: the important thing for people to understand. Because you come

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Speaker 1: from this world, you are a Navy cel, you understand

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Speaker 1: what this means. I've watched so many people say, Man,

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Speaker 1: we feel like we were crap down. We feel like

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Speaker 1: we've been less than We feel like we haven't been

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Speaker 1: taken care of. And people are mad about the price

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Speaker 1: tag and they're mad about they say that this is

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Speaker 1: something that is dictatorial. It's not about President Trump at all.

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Speaker 1: It is about honoring the men and women who I.

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Speaker 2: Agree, and it's also honoring the American public. Right. One

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Speaker 2: of the things that has traditionally been the most unifying

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Speaker 2: component is the underlying ideology behind meritocracy in the military.

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Speaker 2: You can go in the military and you can thrive

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Speaker 2: if you meet a standard, if you orient yourself at

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Speaker 2: the highest level in teamwork, if you participate in a

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Speaker 2: selfless way towards the benefits of the American people. Right.

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Speaker 2: So it's also to paying tribute to that heritage. And

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Speaker 2: in a time where a majority of our institutions are

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Speaker 2: really in question right now, I think it's a good

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Speaker 2: thing to bring back the status of the US military

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Speaker 1: So I want to get into Israel because we are

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Speaker 1: yesterday there was an attack. I guess it was really

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Speaker 1: night and into Friday morning. We are watching as Israel

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Speaker 1: bombed what was it seven targets in Iran.

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Speaker 2: It was quite a few. The biggest thing was the

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Speaker 2: people they took out. Right, you had the Supreme Commander,

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Speaker 2: was significantly impacted. Now what that battle damage report is,

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Speaker 1: So I was telling you I was on Newsmax this

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Speaker 1: Israel's choice. They decided to do this. They suffered a

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Speaker 1: if that happened on US soil, which it could, based

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Speaker 2: Well, No, America didn't stand by. It happened on nine

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Speaker 2: And as a result, what did we do? We went

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Speaker 2: to war for essentially twenty years, right. I think what

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Speaker 2: more wars. And I think what a lot of these

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Speaker 2: And so I think what people are backlashing at is

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Speaker 2: something else. Now it was It did come out that

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Speaker 2: Rubio said that America did not participate in this in

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Speaker 2: any capacity. This was an independent UH operation conducted what

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Speaker 2: was it was called Operation Right Raising Lion and Rising Lion.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I think what you have is a

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Speaker 2: that it continues to destabilize in somehow, some way, We're

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Speaker 1: Well, this is not a region that I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: not like the United States and Donald Trump has been negotiating.

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Speaker 1: He said he'd give him sixty days and he wanted

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Speaker 1: them to nuclearize. We know that there's weapons there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: We know that Israel believes that they would be the target.

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Speaker 1: And it's not as though they've hidden this. I mean

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not just he's not just profess taken out Israel,

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Speaker 2: but he's professed taking out America American interest as well.

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Speaker 2: And they do have a significant arsenal. You know, the

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Speaker 2: last reports from the Atomic Energy Agency reports that they're

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Speaker 2: about ten nuclear bombs. Now. You know, when I was

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Speaker 1: I want to stop you for a second, because think

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Speaker 1: When the person who was running against Donald Trump said, well,

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Speaker 2: That video killed me man. The members the Marines, and

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Speaker 2: And yes, Israel is every day at an existential reality

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Speaker 2: for sure. Hands down. What I find interesting is some

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Speaker 2: it's unprovoked, all of that. And so you know, for me,

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Speaker 2: what I'm praying for is peace across the board always.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to see any more US personnel. I

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Speaker 2: and but you know, there's also a significant number of

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Speaker 2: So what hopefully the strikes were so profound that they

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Speaker 2: had a deeply impactful thing and really set the Iranian

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Speaker 1: Do you think it sets them back militarily? But I mean,

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Speaker 1: United States, and I go, okay, they they poked the bear.

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Speaker 1: There's no question the bear was poked, and they're very angry.

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Speaker 1: We are being told by experts that it usually takes

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Speaker 1: something like this. What kind of weapons did I mean?

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Speaker 1: Did they hit enough to really damage them? Or is

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Speaker 1: this something that is going to become very ugly?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it absolutely is. I mean they responded with immediate

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Speaker 2: one hundred drones and response. And don't forget you know,

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Speaker 2: there was an attack on October first of twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four where they launched about two hundred ballistic missiles in

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Speaker 2: two ways, targeting sites in Israel. Right now, is operation

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Speaker 2: true promise? The second so they're going to respond. There's

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Speaker 2: no doubt. They've already said it. They're going to respond significantly.

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Speaker 2: They've said they're going to respond to a US military

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Speaker 2: bases to the which you know, Trump you know, obviously

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Speaker 2: set up if you attack our bases, We're going to

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Speaker 1: Well, we will see how this weekend goes. We'll see

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Speaker 2: Same thing, you know, all podcast areas, all social media

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Speaker 2: at David Rutherford's show, same same and Tutor. I just

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Speaker 1: Yep, we'll keep well, we will keep praying all weekend,

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