Speaker 1: You're tuned into the Gangster Chronicles. Well Saints McDonald, REXI
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Speaker 1: Network material Witness on an aggregated battery. I was a
Speaker 1: hang gun and they believe this might be in retaliation
Speaker 1: to her testimony. We was at the hospital this time
Speaker 1: last year, and time just flew by man and so
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving always at Mom's house every year, Mom's house, my
Speaker 1: sister's world. David was actually only way too my sister
Speaker 1: house when my sister had to get off the freeway
Speaker 1: and turn back around and go straight to the hospital.
Speaker 1: And uh, Moms never came home from that day, so
Speaker 1: we never got a chance to enjoy Thanksgiving. We was
Speaker 1: at the hospital with her, okay, so she wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: be doing much cooking on Thanksgiving two thousand. She thought
Speaker 1: she was. She wanted to. She yeah, my sister and
Speaker 1: then took her to her house in uh Fontana, but
Speaker 1: she she couldn't make it. She didn't make it there,
Speaker 1: and they went from from the house to the freeway,
Speaker 1: off the freeway to St. Francis and two days after
Speaker 1: she was gone. So what's the plans for Thanksgiving this
Speaker 1: year for you and your family because it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot different now. Well, my aunties and and my
Speaker 1: sister then think that this should be a good time,
Speaker 1: that we all should get together and and and doing
Speaker 1: things giving because that's how my mama would have wanted it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I don't care where
Speaker 1: is that. I'm gonna be there. The food ain't I mean,
Speaker 1: my aunting them they cook like mothercker, but it ain't
Speaker 1: gonna be the same because I don't have my mama's
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And it's a sad thing,
Speaker 1: but I'm working on it. So having Thanksgiving to everybody
Speaker 1: out there, definitely, And even though I don't celebrate Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take my kids after we've done with this
Speaker 1: show to whatever family member's house they want to go
Speaker 1: to useless their aunt. So h happy Thanksgiving everybody out
Speaker 1: there listening. Now, Last week we had t K Kirtland Kirkland,
Speaker 1: and we didn't really get a chance to do a
Speaker 1: fact check from the week before when we had Ari Spado.
Speaker 1: But let me just go through a just a couple
Speaker 1: of quick ones. Um, when you and or were talking
Speaker 1: last two weeks ago, y'all mentioned the movie, y'all said,
Speaker 1: Across A hundred and thirty fourth Street, but the name
Speaker 1: of the movie is Across A hundred tenth Street. And
Speaker 1: that movie was starred Ya Feticado and Anthony Quinn. Now, y'all,
Speaker 1: Feticado was an actor, a brother that doesn't really get
Speaker 1: a lot of attention people. You know, never hear anybody
Speaker 1: talking about y'all Vticado. But he's just a black actor
Speaker 1: that I've been following for years. I've never actually seen
Speaker 1: that movie. I'm definitely gonna go and check it out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then Anthony Quinn is probably people don't know this,
Speaker 1: but Anthony Quinn is Mexican. His last name name really Quinn,
Speaker 1: It's Kenyon, but he shortened. Yeah. You know, a lot
Speaker 1: of actors change their name back in him, so he
Speaker 1: got rid of the canonists and just put Quinn on it.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, kind of crossed over into the
Speaker 1: white acting, you know, with the because you look at
Speaker 1: him sometimes you might think he's white, but he's Anglo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he could play like an Anglo guy, but then
Speaker 1: he could also play uh Anthony Queen played good uh
Speaker 1: Western movies. Yeah, A watch a lot of his uh
Speaker 1: ship Kickers, and I think he's from East l A
Speaker 1: originally or Boil Heights. So that's a movie that I
Speaker 1: was just reading some of the reviews of it, and
Speaker 1: I recommend everybody to go check it out. Across Hunter
Speaker 1: in ten Street, um from Back in the Day, from
Speaker 1: Back in the Days, and another fact check from two
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Or he was talking about his case when
Speaker 1: he got indicted with in that mafia indictment with the Colombos.
Speaker 1: Was it the Colombos, Yeah, it was the Colombo Uh.
Speaker 1: He mentioned Judge Weinstein. It was um as being um.
Speaker 1: I forget what specifically said about him, but I looked
Speaker 1: him up jug Jack Bertrand Weinstein. He was born in
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty one. He is currently nine eight years old,
Speaker 1: and as of two thousand and eighteen, he was still
Speaker 1: a judge with a full docutive cases. So he's the
Speaker 1: oldest active judge in the United States years old, born,
Speaker 1: still doing it as of two thousand and eighteen. I
Speaker 1: don't know if anything has changed from two thousand and
Speaker 1: eighteen to now, but he's presided over a bunch of
Speaker 1: mafia cases and all those cases that out of New
Speaker 1: York City federal court. Well, he definitely seen this ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he saw that whole uh, that whole sunny
Speaker 1: sunny Franziz case, which was the guy that actually ordered it.
Speaker 1: And I know that would have been crazy because they
Speaker 1: was killing judges at that time if they didn't get
Speaker 1: our turn that verdict towards day way there were a
Speaker 1: few that got killed. So I wonder how he Yeah
Speaker 1: you handling that. You know, all them judges um in
Speaker 1: downtown l A have karen concealed weapon permits. Yeah, now,
Speaker 1: and I believe they have. Um. I can't confirm this
Speaker 1: or know this to be true, but I believe they
Speaker 1: got strapped a strap underneath their bench probably show the
Speaker 1: way these cats lunging now that people and at the
Speaker 1: judges now, but you don't need it when you got
Speaker 1: your three bailiffs, they are all strapped, you know. So
Speaker 1: I don't know how true it is a judge's got
Speaker 1: a gun underneath that desk. What do you think you
Speaker 1: can't say if you were a judge, I know you
Speaker 1: definitely haven't shotgun. Let me tell you something, man, I
Speaker 1: don't care where I'm going and where I'm an. I
Speaker 1: got mine. I'm not it ain't no second guessing. Ain't
Speaker 1: no second guessing. And then to have that job, you
Speaker 1: got some crazy motherfucker's out of here, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You got some cats that hate that that
Speaker 1: that guy that rape their daughter or killed their son,
Speaker 1: and they lunging out at him, which I can't blame him,
Speaker 1: but anybody can get hurt. And the police ain't stopped
Speaker 1: one yet from getting across that that that gate there,
Speaker 1: But it's only so far you can get though. That's
Speaker 1: the part I want to go. And um, I just
Speaker 1: want to add that that judge Jack Weinstein, he's been
Speaker 1: a judge in this nineteen sixty seven, so he's been
Speaker 1: a drugs longer and I've been alive. That's crazy. And
Speaker 1: he graduated from law school in nineteen and this dude
Speaker 1: is still doing his thing. Crazy. So that was the
Speaker 1: judge that eventually gave or Spado. Um, I guess he
Speaker 1: gave him a pretty good deal. He only got five years.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say only five years is a
Speaker 1: lot of time to do in prison, but everybody in
Speaker 1: that indictment was looking at like ten twenty years. Let's
Speaker 1: just say five years. We're lucky. We're lucky for getting
Speaker 1: five because the ship you're doing, you should have been
Speaker 1: in it for life. So anybody they get a short
Speaker 1: and sentance like that is lucky. Alright. Uh, I gotta
Speaker 1: mention few things in the news. Your boy O J.
Speaker 1: Simpson up to nine hundred and twenty five thousand subscribers.
Speaker 1: He still hasn't hit a million. And what's going on,
Speaker 1: O J? What's taking you so long to get a
Speaker 1: million subscribers? People is slowing down on it, but I
Speaker 1: should say, followers, this is Twitter, this is Twitter down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're slowing down on it. And uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean it's still a lot of people. There's still a
Speaker 1: lot of people right there. But like I said, and
Speaker 1: I shouldn't long time and go. He needs to just
Speaker 1: sit back, go play golf and do his thing. He
Speaker 1: don't need all that attention. Well, he's from the hood, man,
Speaker 1: he's from Protero Project, San Francisco. The guy is not
Speaker 1: gonna keep his mouth shut. Ever, I don't care how
Speaker 1: old he gets that and and and that's a problem,
Speaker 1: that's a problem. I think he's staying clean though. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna do anything dumb to catch another
Speaker 1: case like he did. Even though that was I feel
Speaker 1: like he got railroaded in Nevada because he basically got
Speaker 1: charged for trying to get back his own stuff. Right,
Speaker 1: you're not not tell me this and you get robbed,
Speaker 1: you get at and then you see the dude with
Speaker 1: your stuff and you decided to use physical force to
Speaker 1: get it back. Isn't that what you expected to do?
Speaker 1: For number one, how did he know that she was
Speaker 1: in the battom. For number two, why would he take
Speaker 1: these cats? He really don't know to go get something
Speaker 1: that belonged to him. Number three, he should have got
Speaker 1: that those cats, had a conversation, had the police do
Speaker 1: whatever at his age. If you want to get at them,
Speaker 1: you got to find a better place to do it.
Speaker 1: Because Las Vegas is number cameras, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And everything was against me because he got Now you
Speaker 1: got motherfucker's saying. Oh he was. He wanted to this,
Speaker 1: He wanted to that. Come on, man, it's oh jo Oh.
Speaker 1: He shouldn't have took he shouldn't have went with the strap.
Speaker 1: That's probably mistake number That was mistake number one. And
Speaker 1: he probably could have just sent some other people and
Speaker 1: he didn't have to go on and have to go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't expecting for him to get thirty three
Speaker 1: years in prison, of which he did ten. He did
Speaker 1: ten years for basically trying to get his own stuff
Speaker 1: back that belonged to him. Everybody looking at it like that.
Speaker 1: He went there to take his ship, to rob them
Speaker 1: for his ship. That's what he wants jail for. Rob
Speaker 1: don't consider it the robbery though. If it's your stuff, right,
Speaker 1: how did they get it? They stole it actually from him.
Speaker 1: I don't know how they stole that. That part. They
Speaker 1: never came out with that. Where how did you get it?
Speaker 1: How did you get there? Ol j. It was a
Speaker 1: set up from the beginning. Well, I think, um, I
Speaker 1: think he got railroaded and I believe he got those
Speaker 1: thirty three years because of Nicole Simpson and um Mr Goldman.
Speaker 1: We didn't get him on that one. They didn't get
Speaker 1: him on that one. So we can give him thirty
Speaker 1: three years for that one. But if they wanted to
Speaker 1: keep him, they could have kept him in there for
Speaker 1: thirty three years. Well, he he did ten and he's
Speaker 1: home now and he's free. And that's what the average
Speaker 1: catti is doing for robberie such as that gun uh
Speaker 1: strong arm ten years and he did exactly and so
Speaker 1: they really didn't do him bad. All right, James, I
Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit about these police officers
Speaker 1: man getting a rested left and right. The first one
Speaker 1: is a grand jury in Delaware has indicted a Dewey
Speaker 1: Dewey Beach police officer named Gregory Lynch for an assault
Speaker 1: that happened back in August. Um. Yeah, so I mean
Speaker 1: we're we're in November. I don't know why. If you
Speaker 1: do an assault, you're getting arrested on the spot. If
Speaker 1: you do an assault, I'm going to jail right away.
Speaker 1: When these cops do these various offenses, it's always like, well,
Speaker 1: let's investigate it first, find out if there was anything
Speaker 1: done wrong, and then if we're gonna arrest them, we're
Speaker 1: gonna arrest. And when you know you're gonna arrest the dude,
Speaker 1: the rest of dude, they wait till November, the arrest
Speaker 1: the dude that did something in August. First, they gotta
Speaker 1: do an investigation, which our investigation is shiitting in jail.
Speaker 1: Where did you do? You know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: this is my whole thing. Police or just like us.
Speaker 1: They're normal, they're just like us, and and and they
Speaker 1: have attitudes just like we do. And they do dumb ship.
Speaker 1: But to believe to be a police officer, you can't
Speaker 1: act like me. You can't talk to me the way
Speaker 1: I talk to you. But they don't. They don't possess
Speaker 1: that that quality. Man, And some some cops don't need
Speaker 1: to be police officers. Look at all of these cops
Speaker 1: going to jail. You got cops, so many cops going
Speaker 1: to jail for murder. Now you got so many cops
Speaker 1: beating up people. I remember one time I went to jail.
Speaker 1: They told me for a terrorist threat just because I'm
Speaker 1: talking ship. I mean, it didn't make no sense. It
Speaker 1: didn't make no sense. But yet they do the same ship,
Speaker 1: they do the same ship. I like somebody on to
Speaker 1: explain that to me, with a terrorist threat is such
Speaker 1: a fake thing. If I say something like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: beat your ass, that's a terrorist threat. And basically that's
Speaker 1: what I said, put jil You know what I said
Speaker 1: was put that motherfucking stick down and I'll whoop your
Speaker 1: motherfucking ass. I guarantee you whoop your ass. They took
Speaker 1: me to jail for a test that fifty dollar barn damn.
Speaker 1: And that's ridiculous. So explain to me a terrorist threat.
Speaker 1: Explain it to me. I don't understand it. So they
Speaker 1: come up with these different these different laws just to
Speaker 1: get you, just to take you to jail because you
Speaker 1: don't respect them or not respecting them at that time,
Speaker 1: and and they find some kind of way to put
Speaker 1: you in jail. Now we're on the flip side of
Speaker 1: this here. You got all of these different cops. Man.
Speaker 1: I watched one cop, Uh walked to some brothers I
Speaker 1: was telling Brian walked up to some brothers after shopping
Speaker 1: and told them, show me your I D. And your
Speaker 1: your car registration for what I'm in a puking lot.
Speaker 1: You can't give a motherfucking ticket for that. But what
Speaker 1: did I do wrong? But they alive. They stretched the
Speaker 1: truth all day. So I don't know, Man, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just coming to a time where you can't trust
Speaker 1: the police. And that's the sad thing, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Uh, some of it outweighs the good ones.
Speaker 1: These bad cops definitely not mean you mentioned terrorist threat? Um,
Speaker 1: did you know, Shug when he was imprisoned in the
Speaker 1: County jail just recently. He wasn't only facing the murder
Speaker 1: and attempt to murder against Terry Carter and Bone. He
Speaker 1: also had an incident with Cat Williams, and then he
Speaker 1: also had a terrorist threat charge from a text message
Speaker 1: he sent to F. Gary Gray, the director of the
Speaker 1: movie Straight out of Compton, What are you Gonna do?
Speaker 1: He So he was facing three other three cases, all felonies,
Speaker 1: and his terrorist threat was making a threat and it
Speaker 1: was a through text. It wasn't even a verbal threat.
Speaker 1: So they hit him with a terrorist threat. But he mean,
Speaker 1: he was threatening F. Gary Gray and well F. Gary
Speaker 1: Graham from the streets. So look at we all grown
Speaker 1: mother and that man was scared. Yeah, because damn Mr
Speaker 1: shild Night telling me this, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He had a lot of motherfuckers that didn't even want
Speaker 1: to go to sleep at night. But I mean a
Speaker 1: terrrist thrait. Man, I don't get it. I don't get it. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Uh, I didn't know a terrorist threat
Speaker 1: can come in the form of a text message. But
Speaker 1: they they charged Sugar with that as one of the
Speaker 1: three cases he was fighting now we have, um, we
Speaker 1: have another cop that was arrested. This is a female
Speaker 1: officer named Angel Herring, forty seven years old out of Dallas,
Speaker 1: from the Dallas Police Department. It's the same department that
Speaker 1: we've been talking about on and off for the last
Speaker 1: few weeks regarding Joshua Brown incident. But she was charged
Speaker 1: with tampering with evidence. Not that serious tampering with evidence
Speaker 1: because you don't know if that's a case on somebody
Speaker 1: or she's exaggerating the evidence against someone. But she turned
Speaker 1: herself fin November, uh, a couple of weeks ago, about
Speaker 1: a week and a half ago, for tampering with evidence.
Speaker 1: This is a police officer. She and the first one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, we all know that they got one cop
Speaker 1: and you know, I you know, I strolled through this
Speaker 1: this this here thing on my phone, and you know,
Speaker 1: they show all types of various types of police officers.
Speaker 1: You know, it's uh police to police. You got one
Speaker 1: cop putting drugs on people that they ain't never touched
Speaker 1: drugs and day in their life. They found him, they
Speaker 1: showed it shows him he thought his dad's cameras cameras off,
Speaker 1: his body cameras off, and but it's still running and
Speaker 1: it takes so many for it to go off, and
Speaker 1: when it come on and do whatever. And this dude
Speaker 1: called putting drugs in the man wallet, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you know that was that was called
Speaker 1: on camera. But but he didn't get fired. If you
Speaker 1: catch one of your officers doing some ship like that,
Speaker 1: you need to go through every case that he'd have
Speaker 1: been on, every arrested. Heaven made the whole nine because
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, this one bad cop
Speaker 1: gonna make everybody else you look bad. Now what happens
Speaker 1: when motherfucker's just stopped trusting the police, period, Well, I
Speaker 1: think that's already started. I mean yeah, and it's a
Speaker 1: bad thing. I posted a video of me getting pulled over.
Speaker 1: In a lot of comments under the video, we're saying,
Speaker 1: this is why we don't trust the police because of
Speaker 1: the way they treat us during a basic traffic stop.
Speaker 1: You know. So, um, I mean, it's nothing new. Like
Speaker 1: you said, we got another officer here, off duty officer
Speaker 1: Cyprus police officer was arrested for sexual assault after this
Speaker 1: cop had a standoff with the other cops from Garden
Speaker 1: Grove Police that we're trying to arrest arrest them. Um oh,
Speaker 1: I don't have his name on here, but this just
Speaker 1: happened here. I mean, Garden Grove is just the next
Speaker 1: county over. And what they're doing, they're just making these
Speaker 1: ships look bad. They are um and that's only proven
Speaker 1: to them that when people say that ain't buying you
Speaker 1: gotta look into that ship further because look what they
Speaker 1: look what they're doing. They're killing people, They're putting drugs
Speaker 1: on people. They're telling you you ain't got you you
Speaker 1: I'm above the law. So how do you win? The
Speaker 1: only way you can win in certain situations is just say, okay,
Speaker 1: check this out. My name is whoo Woo Boblicer, And
Speaker 1: I was just telling Alex what we need to do
Speaker 1: on this show is is give a little lesson about
Speaker 1: I think your Uh how did I say that, I
Speaker 1: guess some of some of the rights. Yeah, because we
Speaker 1: got to know our rights. But then even if you
Speaker 1: know your rights, who's to say this ship is gonna work?
Speaker 1: And it all depends on the police officer they pull
Speaker 1: you over. I always to say, just stand your ground,
Speaker 1: just maintain your position, because it's not it's not illegal
Speaker 1: for the police to lie to get you out of
Speaker 1: your rights. That's all. That's all the ego for them
Speaker 1: to say certain things, We're gonna take your kids away,
Speaker 1: it's all of that's legal. You just gotta be strong
Speaker 1: enough to maintain your position. One thing that you have
Speaker 1: to do is believe this. You have a right to
Speaker 1: remain silent if they pull you up. I don't answer questions,
Speaker 1: That's all you gotta say. I don't answer questions because
Speaker 1: they're waiting for you to say something so they can
Speaker 1: find something or come up with something. I don't answer questions.
Speaker 1: You get them every time. You don't have to say
Speaker 1: anything to the police. You don't have to. You don't
Speaker 1: gotta answer goddamn question. Every you see the cops, they
Speaker 1: go straight to the back of the cart man. Why
Speaker 1: did you have all that joub don't answer that ship.
Speaker 1: You don't even answer the most basic questions because everything
Speaker 1: you say is gonna be used against you in some way,
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna win. You are not gonna win, thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: let me just talk. I'll explain this little part right here. No,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna win, so just keep your mouth shut
Speaker 1: from the very beginning. I don't answer. And the reason
Speaker 1: why I don't have officer the officer from Cyprus his
Speaker 1: name here is because I just looked it up. They
Speaker 1: never released his name. They never released the identity of
Speaker 1: that Cypress police officer that was arrested for a sexual assault.
Speaker 1: So sometimes they kind of protect the identities of the
Speaker 1: cops until they go to trial, and then there's another
Speaker 1: code thing. He can get found guilty here, but he
Speaker 1: can go to another police department and worked they need
Speaker 1: to change that. No, if if he's found guilty of
Speaker 1: a felony, I'm not sure. Like for example, the Dewey
Speaker 1: Beach Police officer Gregory Lynch that's charged with an assault,
Speaker 1: he's he's charged with a misdemeanor. So if Gregory Lynch
Speaker 1: from Dewey Beach Police has found guilty of that assault,
Speaker 1: he can be a cop again somewhere else because that's
Speaker 1: a misdemeaning. But if you're convicted of a felony, no, no,
Speaker 1: there's no way, it's it's over. It's a rap for
Speaker 1: for for anybody that has a felony when you cannot
Speaker 1: go into law enforcement at all. If you've got a felony,
Speaker 1: suspicion of sexual asshance. Ain't that some good man? You know?
Speaker 1: There was these l ap D officers that were raping.
Speaker 1: There was these partners. I'm We're gonna have to bring
Speaker 1: that up next week. I'm gonna look that one up.
Speaker 1: But there were these partners that were actually raping women
Speaker 1: out and I think it was in Hollywood. And we
Speaker 1: got one more officer here from Citronelle. Citronelle police officer
Speaker 1: was fired after he was accused of beating a man
Speaker 1: in custody. We're talking about officer Jason mead Uh was
Speaker 1: booked by Mobile County Metro Jail in Alabama and charged
Speaker 1: with second degree assaults. And this was um last month
Speaker 1: in October. So um, I mean a lot of people believe.
Speaker 1: And I work in the courts and I'm always dealing
Speaker 1: with juries. I would say ninety five percent of juries
Speaker 1: believed that the police don't do anything wrong. And I'm
Speaker 1: not exaggerating they because they say the police is here
Speaker 1: to serving, but check a lot of people. She us
Speaker 1: as if they wouldn't do nothing wrong, they wouldn't be here.
Speaker 1: So you're already guilty, have as guilty, so you can't
Speaker 1: you there's nowhere around it. There's nowhere around it. Whether
Speaker 1: you you you applied to every thing they say, if
Speaker 1: you if you even say I don't answer question, that
Speaker 1: makes the mad. Yeah, it does. It makes the mad.
Speaker 1: And you're exercising your right, you're doing that. But they don't.
Speaker 1: They don't look at it like that. And what the
Speaker 1: courts do if I guarantee you I don't ask no questions.
Speaker 1: If they start working people asking people start following up
Speaker 1: with these complaints and and lawsuits, the ship gonna stop
Speaker 1: because they're gonna start firing them. Because the captains don't
Speaker 1: want to look bad, they're gonna start getting rid of them.
Speaker 1: So you have to. But we're gonna do a show
Speaker 1: about your mements. Reggie ain't gonna like that one. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, Reggie always thinks that I'm anti police, and
Speaker 1: I want to just make this clear. I am not
Speaker 1: anti police at all. I believe we cannot even have
Speaker 1: a society, a civil society without law enforcement. I'm just
Speaker 1: anti corrupt police. UM, anti police that try to infringe
Speaker 1: upon your rights. UM anti any of these police that
Speaker 1: are doing things that are inappropriate, especially the communities of color.
Speaker 1: Where's a lot of police out there, man that that
Speaker 1: just don't have the skills to to being a certain
Speaker 1: place in the city working because me being a regular
Speaker 1: as white boy, you don't need to be Incompton. You
Speaker 1: don't need to be an Englewood because Englewood is high style.
Speaker 1: Come up to this hot style. Now, every time you
Speaker 1: put on your uniform, you gotta take a deep breath
Speaker 1: because you know you're gonna run into something or you
Speaker 1: suspect that. So by suspecting that, man, I'm I'm running
Speaker 1: to a guy with a gun when they chose and
Speaker 1: the first thing in their mind is to react the ship.
Speaker 1: They don't see the ship that they think they saw.
Speaker 1: And that's the coldest that's the coldest thing, because they
Speaker 1: coming already prepared for whatever in the situations might not
Speaker 1: even be that fucking serious to to grab your gun
Speaker 1: when you walk on me, walk up to me. You
Speaker 1: don't have to. I'm as humble as fuck. But they
Speaker 1: don't know that. But you know, and and and and
Speaker 1: they they win every time I fear for my life. Well,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna win when they're messing with the wrong people.
Speaker 1: And they showed the police feeding shut out of a
Speaker 1: man that didn't have no arms or legs what can
Speaker 1: this man do to you? And how did you fear
Speaker 1: for your life? Come on, man, that's ridiculous. You know.
Speaker 1: I was just interviewing Junior from Tree Top Piru, who
Speaker 1: we had on the Gangster Chronicles about two or three,
Speaker 1: about three weeks ago, and while we were finishing up
Speaker 1: the interview, we were posted up on Rose Rands and
Speaker 1: we were done with the interview, but a car got
Speaker 1: pulled over by the Compton Sheriff right on the same
Speaker 1: corner we were standing on, right on Rosecrans. And as
Speaker 1: soon as that cop was walking to the car, two
Speaker 1: cops walking to the car, He's got his hand already
Speaker 1: on the gun. They already ready. And I was about
Speaker 1: to say, wow, this is like they just scared to
Speaker 1: pull over black people on the streets. When now, I
Speaker 1: challenge anybody else, go watch the police pull over people
Speaker 1: in Culver City or Santa Monica or even on the
Speaker 1: West side of Los Angeles. You do not see cops
Speaker 1: with their hands on their guns walking to the car
Speaker 1: during a traffic violation. Now, I still there and watched
Speaker 1: it for a couple of minutes, and then I guess
Speaker 1: after they talked to the driver for about a minute
Speaker 1: or two. They relaxed themselves a little bit. But to
Speaker 1: approach the car with your hand on your strap already,
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, this is just this is sad.
Speaker 1: Actually I ain't taking up from him. But let me
Speaker 1: ask you this, Yeah to to to being Compton and
Speaker 1: you know the environment you work in, and you know
Speaker 1: that man, I might get three or four guns. Take
Speaker 1: my Jim found three maybe three four guns a night.
Speaker 1: I know, I gotta go to this car a certain
Speaker 1: kind of way. But once you see that it is
Speaker 1: not hot style, then you should be able to and
Speaker 1: know how to tone it down to the person you're
Speaker 1: talking to. But I bet Reggie Wright Jr. Didn't have
Speaker 1: his hand on his trap when he pulled people over
Speaker 1: in Compton all the time. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't want to speak from because he's not here, right,
Speaker 1: I can't answer that, but not every cop does. It's
Speaker 1: different from being in Beverly Hills. But then you at
Speaker 1: some point sometimes you're gonna get caught up with a motherfucker,
Speaker 1: and Beverly Hills you don't know who you're pulling over.
Speaker 1: So I mean, my whole thing is I want to
Speaker 1: go home. But if I'm running to a kid like
Speaker 1: like him and him and oh, Jim bible over there,
Speaker 1: I might not make it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like a uh twisting between the both.
Speaker 1: But you gotta know how to turn it on and
Speaker 1: turn it off at something ain't and they don't do
Speaker 1: that when they walked to the car in his own.
Speaker 1: It stays that way until they either take you to
Speaker 1: jail or drive away. They can't get not on you,
Speaker 1: so they book. Well. I feel a certain kind of
Speaker 1: way about it because when I get pulled over, they
Speaker 1: treat me the same way as they were treating their
Speaker 1: brother yesterday, um, a couple of weeks ago on rose cramps.
Speaker 1: They treat you like they treat every brother, every educated
Speaker 1: brother that knows the Lord and that knows them, And
Speaker 1: that's against them, and they know it because they know
Speaker 1: who I am when they're pulling me over, because they
Speaker 1: running my plates and exactly. And that's a dangerous thing
Speaker 1: for you, Doug, because if they know you and they
Speaker 1: know you against them, they're gonna funk with you every time.
Speaker 1: I'm not against them, I'm really not against the police
Speaker 1: at all. You're not against them, But when you go
Speaker 1: to court to help this person get off, to help
Speaker 1: that that's not guilty, that's not guilty, that goes against
Speaker 1: everything that they stand for, that they believe in what
Speaker 1: they're doing when they're on the street. Well, I only
Speaker 1: go to court and help the ones where I feel
Speaker 1: that the police officers are not telling the truth on
Speaker 1: the stand if I sit there in court, because I
Speaker 1: usually sit in court first and watch them, and then
Speaker 1: I make a decision with the lawyer. If I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go up and challenge them, I'll tell the lawyer, you
Speaker 1: know what, that cop kept in a hunting. There's really
Speaker 1: nothing that I can say that it's gonna help his case.
Speaker 1: He kept in a hunting because I don't testify in
Speaker 1: every single case. I've worked on five hundred and maybe
Speaker 1: twenty cases, and I've testified in a hundred of them,
Speaker 1: So that's over four hundred that I didn't testify him.
Speaker 1: And that's usually either it went to um they they
Speaker 1: played it out or actually watched the cop and said, oh,
Speaker 1: you know what, the cop kept it real. And I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say if you made three man, that's true.
Speaker 1: So it only takes that one it all right? Um,
Speaker 1: last bit of news I want to cover here is
Speaker 1: that the Texas court halted an execution man. There was
Speaker 1: an execution supposed to happen. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: date was. I think it's supposed to happen this week
Speaker 1: would be No, they would be like today, I believe no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you're right, would be would be Saturday, So he would
Speaker 1: have he would have been executed in a couple more days.
Speaker 1: But a lot of people rallied behind this dude said
Speaker 1: that there was some other evidence that pointed in another direction,
Speaker 1: and we were all just like on the edge waiting
Speaker 1: to hear what was gonna happen. And the judge stayed
Speaker 1: the execution of Rodney Reid, a brother that that may
Speaker 1: be innocent of of this murder that they said he
Speaker 1: did back in the day. And guess who they're pointing
Speaker 1: the finger at as the possible suspect in this case.
Speaker 1: You go, you're gonna be blown away. James a cop,
Speaker 1: another cop that ended up raping someone after and and
Speaker 1: then went to prison for ten years. And now it's
Speaker 1: all coming together that this cop had crossed paths with
Speaker 1: the same woman. I think it was his girlfriend or
Speaker 1: ex or something, And so now they're saying that maybe
Speaker 1: this cop killed this girl and it wasn't Rodney Read
Speaker 1: that did it, because Rodney Read said I had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with this head years slept with the girl.
Speaker 1: And he said, yeah, I slept with her. That's why
Speaker 1: y'are here. And they took him to jail for murder.
Speaker 1: They did. That was the only DNA they said they
Speaker 1: had at the time, and the girl's name was Stacy
Speaker 1: States of Bastard, Texas. And um, you know, they're gonna
Speaker 1: start going through this DNA hopefully and we'll they'll be
Speaker 1: able to answer some of these questions. But for now,
Speaker 1: he is not getting executed. And you know, I hope
Speaker 1: the brother is in a center because then he can
Speaker 1: come home. Man, how many brothers you had then come
Speaker 1: home already after doing thirty and forty years And then
Speaker 1: people think that that this two hundred thousand, three hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars is cool. Yeah, hit't not in your pocket.
Speaker 1: But I just lost forty years of my life. Man?
Speaker 1: Is that that? That's unacceptable? Man? And I don't see
Speaker 1: why how people we can say, Okay, I I'm compensated
Speaker 1: for that. Ain't know, gena, how many kids these men
Speaker 1: would have had in between them. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: This brother right here, how his life would have been
Speaker 1: well if he found not guilty of this case, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be compensated for every year he's been down. And
Speaker 1: now you just said it. There's nothing you can give me.
Speaker 1: You gotta get something that what I mean getting the money, okay,
Speaker 1: but they have to do better than locking me up
Speaker 1: for forty fucking years and then at the end of
Speaker 1: the day say, okay, you didn't do this. You know,
Speaker 1: At first I want to say these mistakes need to end.
Speaker 1: But it's not even mistakes because sometimes I had a
Speaker 1: case where the prosecutor was presented with evidence in the
Speaker 1: middle of the trial that this person wasn't the shooter
Speaker 1: who we were defending. It was a fact this person
Speaker 1: wasn't the shooter. Middle of trial, So what do you expect?
Speaker 1: You expect the prosecutors say, you know what, your honor,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna dismiss the charges against this defending because we
Speaker 1: got new evidence that someone else was don't have Uh,
Speaker 1: they're not built like that. She said, you know what,
Speaker 1: we are continuing with this case. I am going to
Speaker 1: prosecute this case. The same way all along and guess
Speaker 1: what our verdict was. My goodness, we gotta not guilty
Speaker 1: on that one. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: the real dude who did it never got you know,
Speaker 1: punished for it, and they damn near put an innocame
Speaker 1: person in jail for it. So it's not even mistakes.
Speaker 1: It's like they don't care once they once that ball
Speaker 1: starts rolling, it's not stopping. A prosecutor is a fabricator.
Speaker 1: A prosecutor can get this paper, this is the evidence
Speaker 1: we have, and they have to make you believe that
Speaker 1: this is real ship they fabricated. They don't know me,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have the scene in the crime, but this
Speaker 1: is what you give me. I'm gonna make the jury
Speaker 1: believe that this is what it is. That's all. They
Speaker 1: are fabricators. Well, I want to say that for all prosecutors,
Speaker 1: but there's been There are a lot that I would
Speaker 1: put in that category down how many of them can
Speaker 1: honestly say, oh, this ship don't sound right, this is
Speaker 1: not the guy the height that the No. Well, let's
Speaker 1: see if you take a deal and they keep volding.
Speaker 1: If you take a deal and nine times out of
Speaker 1: team what I've dumb ask this. We take deals for
Speaker 1: ship we didn't do just to get it over with
Speaker 1: because we know if I take it to trial, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get thirty. That's so much what we're gonna take
Speaker 1: this too. That's one of the saddest parts of me hollering.
Speaker 1: Had a lot of these dudes in these interviews. I've
Speaker 1: had so many brothers tell me Alex, I took that
Speaker 1: eight year deal because they were trying to get me
Speaker 1: forty and I'd rather just do the eight years even
Speaker 1: though I wasn't guilty of it, than sit there and
Speaker 1: do forty. But there's a lot of brothers shit in
Speaker 1: prison with fifty years and they could have got five.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to take that five because they know
Speaker 1: they didn't do it. And I'm gonna beat this ship
Speaker 1: and then we get those jail house lawyers and we
Speaker 1: know we want But then at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I got fifty years, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: you still at a at a no win situation because
Speaker 1: you believe in the system. You know I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: get found guilty. All y'all got to do is look
Speaker 1: at my own dish as well as what you got here.
Speaker 1: It's not right, but they don't do that. The name
Speaker 1: of the police officer that they're now linking to, uh,
Speaker 1: this Texas murder of Miss Tites as Jimmy Fennel, a
Speaker 1: white police officer who was actually engaged to the victim.
Speaker 1: And I think what happened is white. Well the victim
Speaker 1: was a white woman, but I think Reid was messing
Speaker 1: with Rodney. Reid was messing with her, but she was
Speaker 1: engaged to this cop, and the cop must have found
Speaker 1: out and killed her and and let Rodney read go
Speaker 1: to prison. Ford. That's just a short version of it.
Speaker 1: And this happened back in ninety six. So how many
Speaker 1: years he's been in prison now, that's twenty that's twenty three, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: twenty three years. He's been sitting on death row since,
Speaker 1: so that's twenty one years. So now, and then years later,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Fennel, this police officer, gets charged with a rape,
Speaker 1: a rape and assault and does ten years in prison.
Speaker 1: So now they're looking at him. They're looking at him now,
Speaker 1: get you know, they're looking at him now. And thank
Speaker 1: goodness that Rodney Reid's case, at least for now has
Speaker 1: been temporarily halted. Uh, it doesn't mean that he won't
Speaker 1: get back on death throw. It's just for now he
Speaker 1: got to stay. I don't and that's not a permanent
Speaker 1: day is definitely good. He three day, he would have
Speaker 1: been dead. And and Texas don't play. They execute Texas
Speaker 1: in Florida execute more people in any state. Yeah. All right, UM,
Speaker 1: let's answer a few questions from our listeners from the
Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicle listeners. The first one I'm gonna throw out
Speaker 1: there is from King Hem on Apple Podcast. Thanks for
Speaker 1: leaving this question. The question is while Reggie is gone,
Speaker 1: who will replace him? Nobody? Uh? I think and I
Speaker 1: believe that me and Alex can handle this until Reggie come.
Speaker 1: One of the main reasons why we don't need nobody else,
Speaker 1: because if Reggie is going to say six months, that
Speaker 1: person we put in that seat might believe that they
Speaker 1: deserved that seat and don't think Reggie should come back.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a problem if you don't think you're
Speaker 1: going on asked that seat. Um, I think we should
Speaker 1: just leave it vacant and do us. Uh. Reggie is
Speaker 1: still getting everything as if he was still here today
Speaker 1: and we were good with our situation until you the
Speaker 1: people start saying that, oh no, we need this and that,
Speaker 1: then that's when we're gonna start changing up ship. But
Speaker 1: I think, uh, Alex is well educated and understand the
Speaker 1: game and and and I'm learning, I'm I'm getting in
Speaker 1: it old and your and your personal experience living you
Speaker 1: can pretty much address all these points we're talking about
Speaker 1: pretty much, you know. So I think we're good until
Speaker 1: y'all say otherwise. But at this point right now, I
Speaker 1: don't think nobody is is ready to feel Reggie shoes.
Speaker 1: I agree. And one of the reasons why I took
Speaker 1: this job it was because I loved the fact that
Speaker 1: the trio that we created, You and Reggie are an
Speaker 1: amazing uh entities to just listen, to go back and
Speaker 1: forth and we'll be in the middle. I just love
Speaker 1: just like basically playing referee most of the time. And
Speaker 1: that's one of the things I missed arguing with rich Man,
Speaker 1: So he definitely he definitely missed. You know. It was
Speaker 1: a comment and against the chronicles that you know, we
Speaker 1: forgot about Reggie ain't no where in the world. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna chell y'all on my mama. Uh And and
Speaker 1: when the world, Reggie gonna be forgotten or can be forgotten.
Speaker 1: It's like, Reggie is here with us right down the day.
Speaker 1: Reggie gonna have his days where he can call in Reggie.
Speaker 1: Reggie ain't missing a dollar if I make five, Reggie
Speaker 1: make five if you feel me. So Reggie ain't missing nothing,
Speaker 1: and his money is going as long as we're making it.
Speaker 1: Whatever we get and got that he's part of the
Speaker 1: team and the team can't be broken. So whatever we're doing,
Speaker 1: we're making sure Reggie get here, is making sure Reggie
Speaker 1: take care of his family. So I don't think nobody
Speaker 1: can come in between this trio and and say is
Speaker 1: this way or that way? You're on the outside looking in,
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you, Reggie ain't going on where Reggie
Speaker 1: has missed. Every time I look over in that seat
Speaker 1: and he not here, it's like wow. But Reggie had
Speaker 1: to do what Reggie had to do. So you got
Speaker 1: James and Alex keeping it going until Reggie come home.
Speaker 1: And when Reggie come home, Reggie coming home to something
Speaker 1: and something bigger than when he left. So we're good,
Speaker 1: were good, but we don't need nobody else. Absolutely, Uh,
Speaker 1: I completely agree with that. Uh. The show is definitely
Speaker 1: not the same without Reggie, And you know, we're gonna
Speaker 1: hold it down and we're gonna mix it up where
Speaker 1: you're gonna get an episode just like today's episode where
Speaker 1: it's just me and James chopping it up about whatever
Speaker 1: is going on. But then every once in a while
Speaker 1: we'll throw in an interview, we'll throw in a guest,
Speaker 1: like we did last week with t. K. Kirkland. You
Speaker 1: know how many people can get t K. Kirkland like that,
Speaker 1: you know, and we could probably get We can get
Speaker 1: him anytime we want, you know, if y'all want to
Speaker 1: hear him spit some more gems and more game, we
Speaker 1: could bring him on again. Um, the week before that
Speaker 1: we had a mafia associate or e Spado. But when
Speaker 1: Reggie comes home, we're gonna go back to the format
Speaker 1: that that got us where we're at TODA, you know,
Speaker 1: because we didn't get here by doing interviews. Um, even
Speaker 1: though we had glasses come on, Glasses Malone came on.
Speaker 1: And who else did we have after um the glasses
Speaker 1: we had? Um here, Yeah, we have black. We had
Speaker 1: quite a few people, but most of the time it's
Speaker 1: just us three chopping it up and I can't wait
Speaker 1: to get back to that. And that's really, um, what
Speaker 1: I look forward to every time I come drive to
Speaker 1: the studio, man, because I gotta argue with somebody, I
Speaker 1: gotta argue about somebody. Uh. Basically, me and Alex pretty
Speaker 1: much see out of eye on some of these things
Speaker 1: we talked about, but I need Reggie input because, uh,
Speaker 1: me and Reggie don't see how that I on certain things.
Speaker 1: And that's what made me understand Reggie more and him
Speaker 1: understanding me more. I don't care how long we knew
Speaker 1: each other, but we just don't see how that I
Speaker 1: on certain things. And that's what that's that's what makes
Speaker 1: the click real real. So we're gonna we're gonna just
Speaker 1: try to keep you one hunter and do us. Definitely
Speaker 1: thank you on Apple podcast for that question. And again, um,
Speaker 1: if you want your question answer, just go to any
Speaker 1: of the platforms, either Instagram or Apple podcasts and ask
Speaker 1: us a question. As we're going to the next one here.
Speaker 1: This is from Duane Davis on Facebook. Uh, James, who
Speaker 1: are the homies that rolled with Sugar in the movie
Speaker 1: All Eyes on Me? I'm asking because I know you
Speaker 1: rolled with Sugar and your brother Bunty did too, even
Speaker 1: though the names are never mentioned in the movie. I
Speaker 1: was wondering if those guys were supposed to be y'all
Speaker 1: those guys were supposed to be sugared bodyguards. Yes, and
Speaker 1: the ones that were sugar at that time was Bounty. Uh.
Speaker 1: Some of these guys, I don't even know if they
Speaker 1: want me to name them, but uh, I'm gonna just
Speaker 1: abbreviate and be uh uh ge um gee. Just I mean,
Speaker 1: it was it was just you know, although it was
Speaker 1: the homies there, but and they didn't say no names
Speaker 1: because they couldn't because nobody gave him a right to
Speaker 1: do mamo whatever the technical ship was. But yeah, those
Speaker 1: was the homies, uh, outing and all of those cats
Speaker 1: uh that was supposed to been in there, just like
Speaker 1: those guys that portrayed Sugan and death ro Security Entourage
Speaker 1: or whatever and uh and uh straight out of Compton.
Speaker 1: So yes, it was those was the homies. What about
Speaker 1: Heron you can say him because he's well, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: hamming on hand dog, you know, all of those guys.
Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna be I'm just respecting the guys
Speaker 1: that's still here and might not want their name, you know,
Speaker 1: put out there because they might have some legal ship
Speaker 1: going on with you know, people putting them out there
Speaker 1: like that. But that's one of the reasons why they
Speaker 1: didn't put the names get them titles in that movie
Speaker 1: because you know, none of the homies was was uh
Speaker 1: compensated for that, so nobody got paid. So not one
Speaker 1: single person of Shugs Circles names were set in the movie.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, and and and and the crazy thing about
Speaker 1: both of those movies is they made it made the
Speaker 1: Bluffs look like they wouldn't ship and it's it pitched
Speaker 1: you off because my whole thing, if those dudes would
Speaker 1: have kept it one hunter, if Dre would have kept
Speaker 1: it one hunting, then you have seen something better than
Speaker 1: what you saw. You know, Dre ain't beating up ship
Speaker 1: and and they got him beating up on you know,
Speaker 1: these badass niggers that everybody talking about Sugar had And
Speaker 1: it's crazy. So that was them though. That was yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was supposed to be the homeless. What
Speaker 1: was your overall view of the All Eyes on Me movie.
Speaker 1: That's the one that was directed by Benny Boom And
Speaker 1: I think LT. Hutton was a big producer on that movie. Huh.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to go there, but it was.
Speaker 1: It was. I mean, it's it's what y'alls, so it's
Speaker 1: what a lot of people didn't like it. A lot
Speaker 1: of people didn't like it, just like Gangster Chronicles. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was a lot of ship in that movie that
Speaker 1: the truth wasn't told. And it makes you think who
Speaker 1: writing this ship? I'll tell you right now was written
Speaker 1: by Jeremy Haft, Eddie Gonzalez and Stephen Somebody had to
Speaker 1: tell him this ship, put this ship together, and goddamn,
Speaker 1: I mean you gotta know that this ain't this ain't
Speaker 1: how it was. Now. That's it, man, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't even want to. All right, enough set about the
Speaker 1: All Lies on Me movie? Uh So, thanks Dwayne Davis
Speaker 1: on Facebook, and yes, let me remind everybody the Gangster
Speaker 1: Chronicles podcast does have a Facebook page, so you can
Speaker 1: go there and leave a comment or question if Facebook
Speaker 1: is your social media of choice. We got another question
Speaker 1: here from Castle on Apple iTunes. Did Tupac have to
Speaker 1: get jumped in or do anything to be a part
Speaker 1: of the mob or did his money just do it
Speaker 1: for him? Okay, I'm gonna take a second and breathe
Speaker 1: on this one. Now, this is obviously a question from
Speaker 1: an out of towner, maybe someone from another country, But
Speaker 1: every time I use Tupac in the sentence, people take
Speaker 1: it wrong and wrong with it. Tupac was kicking it
Speaker 1: with Mounttery, Trey and all of them, which he was
Speaker 1: accepted by the homies. Was he a full fledged my
Speaker 1: Paru gang member out there? Bam bam. No, did Tupac
Speaker 1: had to come and and and lock up with four
Speaker 1: of the homies to to to be a part of this. No,
Speaker 1: my personal opinion don't matter at this point because Tupac
Speaker 1: is gone. So no, Tupac didn't have to get jumped
Speaker 1: in because it isn't even like that. Um. His money
Speaker 1: didn't have nothing to do with what he wanted to
Speaker 1: do or be a part of the mob, because it
Speaker 1: wasn't him hanging in the neighborhood. It was Tupac doing
Speaker 1: Tupac Studios ship ship that they did outside of Compton.
Speaker 1: So to answer your questions, no, it didn't have nothing
Speaker 1: to do with jumpany man or him spending his money.
Speaker 1: What he did with his money was was you know,
Speaker 1: and he was good because he looked up for some
Speaker 1: of the homies and they was doing their thing party
Speaker 1: and whatever. But no, you don't have nothing to do
Speaker 1: with the mob. Now, people are real sensitive when you,
Speaker 1: or even me, I've said a couple of things about Poc.
Speaker 1: I got nothing against Pac, but I might say something
Speaker 1: that's just my opinion, and before I know it, I
Speaker 1: got ten people in the damn d MS putting me.
Speaker 1: And this is why, this is why I tried to
Speaker 1: rephrased not to go here, not to go not to
Speaker 1: go right or left because of how people their perspective
Speaker 1: of what they think Tupac is or should be. So
Speaker 1: I try to answer it where we all can get along,
Speaker 1: you know. And that's normally and me I normally tell
Speaker 1: you straight out, hell no, you ain't from the motherfucking
Speaker 1: hood something like that. But no, no, uh, Tupac didn't
Speaker 1: have to be jumped in. Tupac was doing what he
Speaker 1: did best, and he was hanging with the homies. He
Speaker 1: was accepted by the homies and they and they kicked
Speaker 1: it and did you know, ship together. So you would
Speaker 1: have to get a bunch of you would have to
Speaker 1: get a trade, you would have to get a bone,
Speaker 1: you would have to get somebody that dealt with Tupac
Speaker 1: on that level to too even associating associate him with
Speaker 1: the Hood. Me personally, I can't know. He wasn't He
Speaker 1: wasn't from the and he didn't have to go through
Speaker 1: none of those things to to be a part of them. Now,
Speaker 1: I posted uh interview another segment of the interview, and
Speaker 1: I did, and it was the one where you were
Speaker 1: the part where you were standing in front of Akin's
Speaker 1: Market and we had a conversation about Pac and you
Speaker 1: you said in the interview that, um, he was at PARC,
Speaker 1: was acting like he was from Mob when he should
Speaker 1: have when he was the main artist. And man, there's
Speaker 1: there's over a thousand comments on this video, and at
Speaker 1: least I don't know twenty percent of them are saying
Speaker 1: that you're feeling some sort of hatred or negativity towards
Speaker 1: Pac to say that, there's no way I mean Tupac.
Speaker 1: Let me let me explain it to y'all. And it's
Speaker 1: a time friend, Tupac was with or hung out with
Speaker 1: the Mob or death Row for ten eleven months, not
Speaker 1: even a year, not even that long. For for if
Speaker 1: it did you even go there, why could I be
Speaker 1: jealous or should I be jealous of Tupac? All I've
Speaker 1: ever said was the home you should have protected Tupac
Speaker 1: better than they did. All I said was, uh, Tupac
Speaker 1: was the money bag for death Row. Why the hell
Speaker 1: is he out here acting like goddamn thug when this
Speaker 1: is my job? Do my job? Absolutely, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So to what you're saying would have actually
Speaker 1: saved his life exactly exactly. And the people are hating
Speaker 1: on what you're saying, no sense. And I said all
Speaker 1: the time, man, you know the brother, the brother was gifted,
Speaker 1: the brother had he his talent was like, man, if
Speaker 1: people would have really seen this dude, I mean the
Speaker 1: ship y'all here, but the things that they do he
Speaker 1: do or he done, you know he didn't have to
Speaker 1: do that. Tupac, You're about to be ship. Uh you
Speaker 1: already a million man. You're making money so you don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about ship. So make your money and
Speaker 1: be who you are you as an artist. If and
Speaker 1: and I said again, if if, if Tupac was still alive,
Speaker 1: maybe she would have totally been different. But when you
Speaker 1: when they cut their head, their head off, the chicken,
Speaker 1: everything else failed. There's no death road, there's no bounties,
Speaker 1: there's no handdogs. Everything died. And I'm gonna say this again.
Speaker 1: Everything died. So you can't tell me I'm wrong. It's
Speaker 1: a proven fact. Yeah. People are just sensitive about pocket
Speaker 1: and I understand. I have no reason to hate the man.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to keep it one honey. If Tupac
Speaker 1: would have said his ass, then no, let me rephrase that.
Speaker 1: If sheoug would have kept it one, hunted and carried,
Speaker 1: he should have told him this ain't you fight. You
Speaker 1: get over there. And then the security guards that they
Speaker 1: had their protect him. Why the gang members, the homies
Speaker 1: went in took care of that business. This was some
Speaker 1: comforting ship. When this ship happened, we had We had
Speaker 1: war with these cats. That's our fucking job. What how
Speaker 1: the fund Can you call me a game banger and
Speaker 1: I ain't over there attacking these niggas. I'm not a
Speaker 1: game banger. You don't let it slide. Your niggas attacked
Speaker 1: one of the homies and everybody should have been on
Speaker 1: that motherfucking page. Nigga, y'all here, we here, it's on.
Speaker 1: It didn't happen like that, Tupac took off. And I say,
Speaker 1: if Tupac would have did that, Tupac would still be here.
Speaker 1: Maybe you'd have had another incident along the line somewhere,
Speaker 1: but he went it lost his life that night. That
Speaker 1: was on Sugar and and and the homies. All you
Speaker 1: niggas got on mild rings. All uniggas is in the hood.
Speaker 1: The homies should have handled that. Did you ever talk
Speaker 1: to your brother about that? Because he's on the video
Speaker 1: actually kicking and joining into when he could have been.
Speaker 1: He's one of the ogs. He should have grabbed him
Speaker 1: and did the same thing at one point. And I
Speaker 1: don't never speak on what bunch you did or said,
Speaker 1: but yeah, he was in the video and and everybody
Speaker 1: see that. But it's too late this after the fact.
Speaker 1: Y'all should have jumped on that before that dude did
Speaker 1: brackpacking and ship. Everybody knows that. Ain't I get down?
Speaker 1: And then what's not getting down? Especially if and you
Speaker 1: get up and walk away? Because you know what Orlando
Speaker 1: saying when he gets to the hood. The mob dudes
Speaker 1: all rap. They packed me out exactly, I'll buy myself
Speaker 1: and they packed me out. Couldn't even get a fair one,
Speaker 1: you know. And and in Tupac hit him, so he
Speaker 1: felt and I'm and I'm just I'm just saying this
Speaker 1: is like you new he couldn't and a'thing to go
Speaker 1: back to the hood, saying I think a Tupac with
Speaker 1: my ass that's gonna stay with him forever. I mean
Speaker 1: him being him or or being with it should I say,
Speaker 1: he felt, man, I gotta do something. I gotta do something.
Speaker 1: So you know, you you look at the videos that
Speaker 1: Glasses made, which is he depicted damn that half of
Speaker 1: the ship like it was that it went down. But
Speaker 1: then you got these other three cats in the car,
Speaker 1: which any one of them cats could have did what
Speaker 1: they did. I don't even what position you holding that
Speaker 1: in the vehicle, you got opportunity didn't get a motherfucker
Speaker 1: didn't happen that way. So then mother motherfucker's ain't gut
Speaker 1: said to say, you know what I'm saying. But yeah,
Speaker 1: Tupac was a good cat man. And I still say
Speaker 1: today that Tupac would still be here if if, if
Speaker 1: sugar them would have protected him better than what they did.
Speaker 1: Instead of letting him run a mark and and be
Speaker 1: one of us or act like one of us, he
Speaker 1: should have treated him and kept him well kept like
Speaker 1: you do your other artists, and and and it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be good now. One of the comments that I
Speaker 1: get a lot on this video, the recent video that
Speaker 1: I put up with you, is that James is feeling
Speaker 1: salty because Poc didn't shout you out in the Living
Speaker 1: Dye in l a song, and he shout it out
Speaker 1: like four or five of the Maja par rouse Up
Speaker 1: could have shared every name in the book from the
Speaker 1: homage in the hood. Man, I don't need I don't
Speaker 1: need no picture. I don't need to pose with you.
Speaker 1: I don't need to hang out what you will pretend
Speaker 1: we're on the same page. I don't. I don't need
Speaker 1: my name called out m ob period. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't need none of that. I'm not I was in
Speaker 1: a groupie ain't one now, and I never will be
Speaker 1: so for for people to even say I'm salty. Man,
Speaker 1: I would have been mad if you gave everybody some
Speaker 1: money and didn't didn't get Yeah. Yeah, I have felt
Speaker 1: a certain kind of weight. But man, I'm a grown
Speaker 1: ass motherfucking man, So you ain't caring about no lyrics
Speaker 1: in the song and whose name is mentioned at all
Speaker 1: at all. I mean, I feel like your brother's name
Speaker 1: is mentioned. That's good enough. You know, you introduced your
Speaker 1: brother to the whole death Rows family, and and what
Speaker 1: he did and how he did his ship was his business,
Speaker 1: in his way of of of conducting his business. He
Speaker 1: was a grown ass man. But man, ain't no song
Speaker 1: gonna make me. I didn't get paid for them. Nobody
Speaker 1: got paid for their name being in the motherfucker. Why
Speaker 1: would I be mad? Man? Come on, you know, I
Speaker 1: just think people have to find something to say about
Speaker 1: somebody when when when they hear what a mother got
Speaker 1: to say? Either except what the funk I said, or
Speaker 1: just keep it pushing, keep it pushing. I ain't mad
Speaker 1: at you, and I ain't gonna be mad at now.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker that had that got a right to voice their opinion.
Speaker 1: But it's the proof is in the pudding. Have you
Speaker 1: ever heard that before? That criticism, that um that I'm
Speaker 1: getting on these comments and I'm just too much anger
Speaker 1: and and and that hell yeah, I had anger. My
Speaker 1: anger was from losing my brother. My anger was from
Speaker 1: bringing my brother to a situation now his life is gone.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I wouldn't my brother's keeper.
Speaker 1: That's my biggest fucking down phone, me bringing my brother
Speaker 1: to a situation. Feel me. That's the only thing I
Speaker 1: give a funk about. My relationship with shugk angered me
Speaker 1: because at one point we were one hunted and then
Speaker 1: we fell off to bam. My anger is losing all
Speaker 1: of the homies and the way we are today behind
Speaker 1: this bullshit. That's my motherfucking ain't it. But other than that, man,
Speaker 1: I ain't let me stop crushing too, because it's shud
Speaker 1: custom much. But no, I'm not mad at nobody. I
Speaker 1: ain't hate nobody, and I'm working on all of that ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying on a daily basis. So
Speaker 1: I got bigger things to fry than be mad or
Speaker 1: be or let anybody think that I was mad at Tupac.
Speaker 1: I have no reason to be mad at Tupac. I
Speaker 1: stayed mad at Sugar all the time and ain't got
Speaker 1: a problem saying it, but not one time Tupac and
Speaker 1: never did nothing wrong with me, never, So why the
Speaker 1: funk would I be mad at him? I agree. I
Speaker 1: think some of the comments are just die hard pop
Speaker 1: fans that are just sensitive of anything that even sounds
Speaker 1: remotely negative. I don't even think in the interview that
Speaker 1: I posted on Street TV that you even said anything negative. No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't negative at all. It was just explaining what
Speaker 1: happened and what the big homies should have been doing.
Speaker 1: That's all it was. People relax and and and people
Speaker 1: need to understand this what other people say that was there.
Speaker 1: It's cool to voice your opinion, but if you don't
Speaker 1: know what the fun is going on and you can't
Speaker 1: validate other ship something, you just don't say. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I have no reason to hate on
Speaker 1: a Tupac. I have no reason to hate. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: kind of well, I know I don't hate? Should me?
Speaker 1: And should I'm I'm in a bit of Yeah, you've
Speaker 1: been trying to, like my situation with that. You've been
Speaker 1: trying to like ease your negative feelings towards Shore for
Speaker 1: the last few months, because you even shot him a
Speaker 1: few bucks, didn't you. I sent him two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty bucks, and I sent him that because when I
Speaker 1: came home, I know what it's like being in prison,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And me thinking that, Okay,
Speaker 1: she don't if she didn't have the money. Okay, let
Speaker 1: me send you two hundred fifty bucks and this will
Speaker 1: hold you for a minute. You're going for the store
Speaker 1: or whatever, so me coming home and she'll be looking
Speaker 1: out for me. I appreciated that. I'll never forget the
Speaker 1: day you came to my door and looked out for me.
Speaker 1: That's when you first came home from prison. When I
Speaker 1: first came home day one, and the cast that I
Speaker 1: was working with doing all of these illegal activities, Shook
Speaker 1: was there first. So I appreciate him for that, and
Speaker 1: that's why I did that. But and he used to
Speaker 1: break your mom off too, right, he was. He was
Speaker 1: there at one point for my mom's uh, him and Olson. Um.
Speaker 1: He did a lot of good things and then he
Speaker 1: you know, he did some a lot of faulty ship.
Speaker 1: You know, Sugar is just like every other nigger that
Speaker 1: woke this planet. He ain't the only one that that's
Speaker 1: like that. I I put myself in that category that situation,
Speaker 1: like said, we all fucked up. It ain't just him.
Speaker 1: But I got reasons to be mad. If he had
Speaker 1: reason to be mad, then all right, I'm just waiting
Speaker 1: for that day with me and him can have a
Speaker 1: conversation and I can tell him how I feel about
Speaker 1: certain ship, and he can tell me how he feels,
Speaker 1: and then I think it'd all be good. But other
Speaker 1: than until then, can't nobody speak for me? Can't nobody
Speaker 1: speak for Sugar? And it is what it is? You know,
Speaker 1: all of these guys that Ryan Shugar digging and saying
Speaker 1: on nigga hate no Sugar, nigga this and that man,
Speaker 1: you don't know me. You don't know what me and
Speaker 1: Sugar relationship was. Shut the funk up, Shut the funk up.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's whatever, it's whatever. Let me because
Speaker 1: I'm getting mad. But you know, mother Bucker's just talked
Speaker 1: because they want to just talk. They want their voice
Speaker 1: to be heard. I ain't trying to do that now.
Speaker 1: I think it's good that you don't actually read the
Speaker 1: comments under any of the interviews you've done, because it's
Speaker 1: gonna get you going. I'm just tired of it. You know.
Speaker 1: If you want to talk, talk, But Nick's being one
Speaker 1: hundred and being man about this ship, especially if they
Speaker 1: street niggas and claim to be this and that man,
Speaker 1: do what the funk you gotta do. I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what I gotta do. I don't have
Speaker 1: a choice. I don't have a choice in the matter.
Speaker 1: So it is what it is. But all this conversation
Speaker 1: bullshit and all of them comments funked up in all
Speaker 1: of this other ship. Roll with it, roll with it.
Speaker 1: Just keep you one hunted. You know, it's incredible out
Speaker 1: of this whole episode in your life and and the
Speaker 1: the Death Row chapters that as you said earlier, Park
Speaker 1: was only there for like ten or eleven months, and
Speaker 1: it seems like the brother was there for years. Would
Speaker 1: seemed like that, but in reality, he didn't have a
Speaker 1: he didn't have enough time to to grow. Even if
Speaker 1: he wanted to do the hood ship, he didn't have
Speaker 1: enough time for that. You know what I'm saying. Tupac
Speaker 1: didn't come in the hood and hanging funk with the
Speaker 1: little hommies. Tuparc hung with the death Row situation. Those
Speaker 1: guys got to know Tupac, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Those guys funk with him. You know what I'm saying now,
Speaker 1: it wasn't a mob Dan, it was the homie thing.
Speaker 1: So he was a part of the homies, not part
Speaker 1: of the mob. So when when I say that, I'm
Speaker 1: not taking nothing away from that man, from that man
Speaker 1: being a gatester, from what what he doing, because what
Speaker 1: they did, he did it, he did it. But being
Speaker 1: from a hood or being saying I'm from something, no,
Speaker 1: you're not. And they just need to understand that if
Speaker 1: y'all was like gang bangers, if you all know the
Speaker 1: motherfucking cold, you're not from Compton. You're not a gang member.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker shouldn't understand that ship. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you you ain't. You can't be this typing again and
Speaker 1: then be that typing again. It ain't gonna work. They're
Speaker 1: gonna clash. And then you gotta really, at that point, bam,
Speaker 1: decide when the fun you're gonna be or what type
Speaker 1: of nigger are you? You gotta figure that ship out
Speaker 1: right then and there are you're gonna lose. You're gonna lose.
Speaker 1: So I mean, man, all of those guys out there
Speaker 1: that know that they would the business or they know
Speaker 1: the gang ship and the gangster ship, come on, man,
Speaker 1: they know I'm I'm right, So let's just keep in
Speaker 1: one hunt and call it what it is. All of
Speaker 1: this this, this, this, this cloud chasing and all that ship.
Speaker 1: I don't have no clue about this ship. I don't
Speaker 1: have no clue about this ship, and I really don't
Speaker 1: give a funk about it. But if you know me
Speaker 1: handing your motherfucking business, do your thing all right. Well,
Speaker 1: on this Thanksgiving episode, we're gonna kind of cut it
Speaker 1: short so we can get back to our families and
Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of this day. And we hope you
Speaker 1: guys are having a safe one and enjoy you all
Speaker 1: day as well. You started at I know, That's why
Speaker 1: I'm cutting it off right now. Plus this Thanksgiving it's
Speaker 1: time of it's time to keep it pushing that not
Speaker 1: too many podcasts out there are gonna give you a
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving episode because everybody you know wants to just probably
Speaker 1: take a take a week off, But we appreciate everybody
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