1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off. Now, thank 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: you for being here with us. Everyone. Let's talk to 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: the economy for a few minutes. We'll get back into 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: the swing of things here on the news front after 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: Clay's scandalous takes on music, which we'll get to those 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: talkbacks later this hour. Keep them common, people, don't don't 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: let him. Don't let him stop digging just because the 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: hole keeps getting deeper and deeper. But let's get it. 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: Speaking of holes getting deeper and deeper, we're gonna be 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: at forty trillion dollars of debt before Trump's term is up. 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: That is, unfortunately the financial reality we face. However, however, 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: it is the holiday, it's the holiday time, and we'd 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: like to bring you some at least somewhat encouraging news 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: whenever we can about the economy. Here is, for example, 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: National Economic Council Director. He was on Face the Nation 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: saying this is Kevin Hassett saying that there will be 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: a six hundred billion there will be six hundred billion 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: dollars less in added to the deficit this year, or 19 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: rather in the deficit this year than last year. Play five. 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: We've got deficit going way way down. So right now 21 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: it's looking like the deficit for the sheeral B six 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: one hundred billion dollars lower than it was last year. 23 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: That really helps lower inflation. 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: We've got the trade deficit cut in half from last year, 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: and so all these things are things that should continue 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 2: to move us towards the FED target of two percent. 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: So that means that we could see continued rate cuts. 28 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: That means that things are I think moving in the 29 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: right direction. It's a massive challenge the overall debt and 30 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: our cycle of overspending. But Trump is this administration is 31 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: taking action. And there's also the tariff's component of this. 32 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: This has got twenty two. Trump on Sunday was that 33 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: a Christmas reception and he was taking a bit of 34 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: a victory lap here on what he says is is 35 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: the income from I assume clay this is tariffs as 36 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: well as commitments to invest because the tariff number is 37 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: not eighteen trillion, but tariffs slash investment commitments in the 38 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: US from countries like South Korea and others. It's cut 39 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: twenty two. Play it. 40 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: Without the November fifth election, you would have had a 41 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 3: president that didn't have the courage to use tariffs the 42 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: way they should be used. And because of the tariffs, 43 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: we've taken in more than eighteen Think of this, eighteen 44 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: trillion dollars has never been. 45 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: Anything like it. 46 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: As an example, the previous administration, Sleepy Joe Biden took 47 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: in less than one trillion in four years. We took 48 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: in more than eighteen trillion in ten months. I'd say 49 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: that's pretty good, right, I'd say that's very good. And 50 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 3: if you go back, if you go back into history, 51 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 3: there's never been a country that's taken in more than 52 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 3: three trillion dollars. 53 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: Clay, what do you make of it? Things to be 54 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: at least feeling optimistic about with this economy. The economy 55 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: is going to be really good. 56 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 4: The deficits were screwed, and I just you and I 57 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 4: have talked about this a lot in the five years 58 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 4: that we've been on this show, nearly together. There is 59 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 4: no willingness or recognition to acknowledge the threat that exists 60 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 4: when it comes to growing deficit. And I think Elon 61 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 4: may have said it best Buck when he just basically 62 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 4: threw up at his hands and said, we've got to 63 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 4: grow our way out of this and grow our way 64 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 4: out of This means that the economy has to grow 65 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: fast enough that we can start to reverse the tie 66 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 4: of these deficits, and Elon is actually optimistic that we're 67 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 4: going to be able to do it with AI fingers crossed. 68 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 4: But no one wants their benefits cut, no one wants 69 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 4: to pay higher taxes. We are in a society that 70 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 4: is aging, and so the idea that somehow we're going 71 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 4: to create surplus is going forward and pay it back. 72 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: I'm just incredibly skeptical that the dynamics will allow that 73 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 4: to be true. 74 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: And so. 75 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 4: I think all of these challenges are coming together. I 76 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 4: said as we went to break, so let let's be 77 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 4: positive here as we come up on the end of 78 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 4: the first year. I think that two things can be 79 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 4: true simultaneously. Trump has had one of the most successful 80 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 4: years of a presidency that has ever existed in any 81 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 4: of our lives. I really do believe that. I think 82 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 4: he deserves an A rating. He solved everything at the border. 83 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 4: Crime generally speaking, has come down, but we remain in 84 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 4: a situation where the bigger threat for generational issues is 85 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 4: the deficit that we have created. And one of the 86 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: challenges associated with the deficit buck is everybody has to 87 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 4: be greed to be pulling in the same direction. And 88 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 4: I actually think this ties in with some of the 89 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 4: challenges that we are seeing being brought to bear across 90 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 4: the country. Shooting at Brown University. We do not know 91 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 4: who the shooter was. If you watch the video, looks 92 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 4: to be someone clad a male, basically likely clad in 93 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 4: all black, walking away. The fact that they cannot catch 94 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 4: that person is a symptom of failure in policing in 95 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 4: my opinion, given all the security that exists on Brown's campus, 96 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 4: that this was allowed to occur and that someone could 97 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 4: open fire and get away like this is a failure 98 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 4: on all facets. What we just saw happen in Bondai, 99 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 4: I think is an evidence of the generational battle that 100 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 4: we are fighting for the future of Western civilization. When 101 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 4: you have people that are cultivated in some way, have 102 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 4: spent a generation or more living in Australia, and yet 103 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 4: they want to kill innocent Jews more than they want 104 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 4: to take advantage of the abundance and opportunity that Western 105 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 4: freedoms bring to bear. Also, I think you look at, unfortunately, 106 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 4: the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife, Michelle. They 107 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 4: were murdered by their son. All of these stories are 108 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 4: awful that happened over the weekend, probably the three biggest 109 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 4: stories that we've been talking about during the course of 110 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 4: today's show, and they all kind of tie into me, 111 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 4: Buck with the number one goal of any society has 112 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 4: to be to provide security to the people that live there, 113 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 4: because if there is not security, then all of the 114 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: other things can't follow. You can't have a functional economy 115 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 4: if people aren't safe to be able to live within 116 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 4: the structure of that country. And I think they represent 117 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 4: all of them on different levels, left wing failures. Frankly, 118 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 4: I think we're going to see these all interconnected. Still 119 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: remains to be seen what the motive is of the 120 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 4: Brown shooter, the Brown University shooter. We should mention I 121 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 4: was just in Birmingham, buck Ella Cook, one of the 122 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 4: victims that was killed by this shooter at Brown University, 123 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 4: was the vice president of the College Republicans. You know 124 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 4: a little bit about this because you were conservative and 125 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 4: you went to an East Coast school. There's hardly any 126 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 4: outspoken public college Republicans in general on many of these campuses. 127 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 4: Ella Cook seems to have been a unique voice for 128 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 4: good well liked by many people on campus and willing 129 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 4: to stand up for political opinions which are in a 130 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 4: substantial minority. And we remain to see whether there was 131 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 4: any sort of connection as to why these people were killed. 132 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 4: They were two dead kids. But I do think that 133 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 4: all of this awfulness, coming as it does on the 134 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 4: precipice of the holiday season, I think you can go 135 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 4: and look at all of it and rooted in failure 136 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 4: to provide security for people who live in Western civilization. 137 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: Well, let's look at some of the security failure there. 138 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: Brown University campus is a gun free zone. Brown is 139 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: very explicit that now some states ban any firearms on 140 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: public university campuses like state schools effectively, and then there's 141 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: private institutions that can make their own decisions depending on 142 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:37,599 Speaker 1: the state Brown prohibits. Brown prohibits not only any firearm 143 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: carrying by any person clay, the prohibit paintball guns, slingshots, 144 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: knives with a blade longer than three inches, and any 145 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: toy firearm that could be potentially perceived as real. I 146 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: read that all out to you, because what exactly is 147 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: the point of that. Think about this for a moment. 148 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: Who is let's really just work through this piece by piece. Oh, 149 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: I want to be clear. They also ban people who 150 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: have a lawful concealed carry permit from carrying. No one 151 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: is allowed to carry except for law enforcement. Where was 152 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: law enforcement during the shooting? Not there? Were they even 153 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: able to apprehend the suspect. No, everyone on that campus 154 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: was left utterly defenseless by Brown University as a result 155 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: of you know, in the moment and building on that 156 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: buck how many? 157 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 4: This is something that I think if we had real 158 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 4: media they would dive into it. You and I both 159 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 4: spent a lot of time on campus campuses in speeches 160 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 4: and schooling and everything else. Wouldn't you suspect that Brown 161 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 4: would have hundreds of people that they employ in security 162 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 4: on that campus, Like that doesn't seem like a crazy 163 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 4: number to me? Does it seem like a crazy numbered year? 164 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: Probably not armed, probably mostly not armed, but with but 165 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: aren't but yes, okay, maybe not armed security, But the 166 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: number of security guards on that campus would be in 167 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: the hundreds. I would bet that they will. What value 168 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: is an unarmed security guard when you have an running 169 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: around shooting people? 170 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 4: This is what I'm asking, Like, what are they actually 171 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 4: providing security for? If you can have someone go armed 172 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 4: into a campus building, kill two people, wound severely nine people, 173 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 4: and they don't. 174 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: Even stop him. 175 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 4: I mean, this is if I'm a parent, if I'm 176 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 4: a parent of a Brown University student, I'm looking around saying, 177 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 4: wait a minute, you charge. What does Brown cost? I 178 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 4: bet it's eighty or ninety thousand dollars a year when 179 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 4: you roll in room and board and everything else. Seventy 180 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 4: five certainly at least room and board, intuition and everything else. 181 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 4: The number one thing that you should be providing on 182 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 4: Brown is the same thing that I would say that 183 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 4: we should provide to every citizen. But if you're paying 184 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 4: all that money, you should have security on campus at 185 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 4: a minimum, to stop a guy from going shooting up 186 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 4: a building and walking off and getting away. It's been 187 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 4: forty eight hours now. I mean, the security on campus 188 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 4: could be helpful. What would be even more helpful is 189 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 4: if you had somebody on Brown campus who was concealed, caring, 190 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 4: who's a good guy, who the shooter wouldn't know about 191 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 4: and would have to take into account if he's going 192 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 4: to engage in something like this. All a gun free 193 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 4: zone on a college campus does is make sure that 194 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 4: there is no chance of a trained and armed civilian 195 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 4: being able to defend himself or herself and those around 196 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 4: that person from a determined murderer. Because the murderer, this 197 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 4: should be a shock to no one doesn't care about 198 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 4: violating Brown's policy on firearms. So all you're doing is 199 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 4: preventing people who remember, you can't even have it in 200 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 4: your car, Clay, you can't even have it in your 201 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 4: dorm room. It cannot even be excessed, nevermind like carrying 202 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 4: around with You can't even have possession of it anywhere 203 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 4: on Brown University's campus. 204 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: How in what universe does that make anyone safer? How 205 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: could anyone be safer as a result, that's safer from what? 206 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, by the way, seventy two thousand dollars a year 207 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 4: Brown tuition, tuition and room and board now costs, according 208 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 4: to Google AI and our staff ninety five nine and 209 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 4: eighty four dollars a year. So you're talking about just 210 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 4: shy of one hundred thousand dollars a year intuition, room 211 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 4: and board. And to your point, Buck, there is actually 212 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 4: no one to provide security when a true bad guy 213 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 4: shows up. We don't know his motive, we don't even 214 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 4: know who the heck he is. But now we know 215 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 4: that he was able to go into a campus building, 216 00:12:54,200 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 4: kill two, hospitalize nine, no opposition whatsoever, walk out of 217 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 4: the building, leave campus, nobody stopping him, no issues whatsoever. 218 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 4: And to your point, we've talked about this off air. 219 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 4: If you go and look a lot of times when 220 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 4: these guys and gals go shoot up schools. It happened 221 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 4: at Covenant School in Nashville, it happened in Minneapolis recently, 222 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 4: they actually go scout the places out, confirm that there 223 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 4: aren't people to oppose them, and then enact their awfulness 224 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 4: and their violence upon those locations. In other words, they've 225 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 4: actually done the research. And I bet this shooter will 226 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 4: have tubuck to know where they can go, and the 227 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 4: fact that they are unlikely to be confronted by. 228 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: Anybody, unfortunately, Clay, in the context of schools, you know 229 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: that if you don't see security, there's nobody who's going 230 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: to have a gun other than security. So this is 231 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 1: why conceal carrey is such a useful component of the 232 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: security equation because you know, it reminds me of my 233 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: my my brother. We used to go out together. We 234 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,599 Speaker 1: would joke around, I mean he has he has a Pomeranian, 235 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: a little carrying case and he had like a SIG 236 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: three sixty five X in that Pomeranian carrying case with 237 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: three magazines at all times. Yeah, and he shoots even 238 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: more than he shoots all the time. So it's like 239 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: if you're a bad guy. Now, I understand that's just 240 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: one person, but there's a lot of that here in Florida. 241 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: There's a lot of that. People at your Christmas party. 242 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: You think had guns in that Christmas party, Well, that's 243 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: different because you can't conceal carry at a bar, and 244 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: we were at a bar. Okay, so but there was 245 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: if you want to know, there were there was armed 246 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: security there because of some of the personnel who attended. 247 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: So there were guns in that room, but only by 248 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: people that are specifically allowed to have guns in that situation. 249 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: At Dave Ruben's party, I think we said we went 250 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: there not trying to put him on blast. Here, good party. 251 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: A bunch of people had guns. Yeah, there are people 252 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: that there are people that had firearms. Sure. Yeah. 253 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 4: And as a result, I frankly, I mean the world 254 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 4: that we live in right now, if I'm going to 255 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 4: be with people that have been targeted. I would rather 256 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 4: there be a lot of guns around as opposed to none. Right, 257 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 4: and so I've said this every time a school gets 258 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 4: shot up. My kids in public school in the Nashville, 259 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 4: Tennessee area. 260 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: Every school in. 261 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 4: My county has an armed security guard there. I think 262 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 4: this should be standard everywhere. The fact that brown one 263 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars a year nearly these kids parents are 264 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 4: paying for them to go to school there, the fact 265 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 4: that this could happen, it should be we may never 266 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 4: get this guy. 267 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean the evidence that they. 268 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 4: Seem to have right now. They arrested some random guy 269 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 4: at a hotel who had nothing to do with it. 270 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 4: That's not a sign that they have very good sense 271 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 4: for what's going on. Buck, and the tips so far 272 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 4: have not seemed very good either. I want to tell 273 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 4: you all about chalk and how much of a difference 274 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 4: it can make as we come in this holiday season. 275 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 4: I had a couple of Christmas parties yesterday Long Days. 276 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 4: I had a party with Buck, had a party with 277 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 4: Dave Rubin. Lots of you going out to holiday parties 278 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 4: all over the country and with your friends and your family, 279 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 4: get it gearing up for travel. We leave on Friday, 280 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 4: going to be traveling some. I know that a lot 281 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 4: of you are going to be traveling some too. Takes 282 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 4: a lot of energy. 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Welcome back 304 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 4: in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We're going to be 305 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 4: joined by Yell Eckstein here at the bottom of the 306 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 4: next hour. We're going to talk more about the Bondai 307 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 4: Beach terror attack. Fifteen Jewish people slaughtered there. We've been 308 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 4: talking about it quite a lot during the course of 309 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 4: the program, so that is where we are going to 310 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 4: head next, and we look forward to hearing from her 311 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 4: the latest on that issue. 312 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: More Americans than ever are investing in gold and silver, 313 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: exchanging cash and their iras or four oh one K 314 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: accounts for gold or silver. Gold and silver up in 315 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: value more than sixty percent since the beginning of the year. 316 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: So that's been a wise decision if you got in 317 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: on it. But experts out there believe that precious metals 318 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: are going to continue to rise because the long term 319 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: thesis when it comes to gold as a hedge against inflation, 320 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: global uncertainty, it makes sense. Birch Gold Group wants you 321 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: to own silver as much as you might already own gold. 322 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: They know the long term value of precious metals is 323 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: going to grow. And that's why for every five thousand 324 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: dollars you've purchased in gold between now and December twenty second, 325 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: Birch Gold will send you an ounce of silver. 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As long as you don't agree with 335 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: Clay that R and B is the worst form of music, 336 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: that's for sure. Crazy crazy takes flying around like Rudolph 337 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: himself here up in the sky today on the Clay 338 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: and Buck Show. You look like you look like you're 339 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: you're chomping at the bit to jump in on this one. Sir. 340 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: I'm trying to give you a an off ramp here. 341 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 4: I don't think No, I think, I think I'm one 342 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 4: hundred percent right on this, and uh, it's there's so 343 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 4: much darkness out in the world today. Why would we 344 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 4: add more darkness by embracing the worst music that has 345 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 4: been created in the last twenty five or so years 346 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 4: R and B music. So I just I refuse to 347 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 4: play that game and go down that dark hole of 348 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 4: despair by making it even darker and even more what 349 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 4: is the plural of despair? Even more despairrier, and even worse. 350 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 4: I think depressing would work there, buddy. I think the 351 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 4: depressing the well is that? Is that an actual direct 352 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 4: connection to despair though? 353 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: No, no, I was just trying to think they're synonym Yeah, okay, 354 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: Oh that's what I get for trying to help. Frank 355 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: in Kentucky he worked at law Enforce and wants to 356 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: weigh in on the news today. What's going on? Frank? 357 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 5: Hey, guys love the show. Hey, listen to put in 358 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 5: perspective where Klay can grab it. Brown's about the same 359 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 5: size as Vanderbilt. They have about eighty five police officer slots. 360 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 5: No police department is fully compliment right now because it's 361 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 5: hard to want people to be the police. So they 362 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 5: probably had seventy five officers on hired at the time. 363 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 5: Take the administration out, because you're always going to have them, 364 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 5: take the detectives out. Divide it three shifts days off. 365 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 5: They'd be lucky if they had ten guys working that day. 366 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 5: And if they're like Vanderbilt, four or five of those 367 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 5: are going to be assigned to the hospital. So if 368 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 5: they had five on the street, it would be amazing. 369 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 5: And then think about the fact, do you think Brown 370 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 5: University is actually going to have the back of any 371 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 5: cop that's doing proactive work. Heck no, so it's all reactive. 372 00:20:58,560 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: They don't. 373 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 4: This is all super good analysis because we were talking 374 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 4: for people who maybe didn't hear. This guy shoots up 375 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 4: the building, kills two students, wounds nine other people's, many 376 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 4: of those severe wounds, and just walks out of the 377 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 4: campus and they don't catch him at all. Does that 378 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 4: surprise you that he could do that? I like the 379 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 4: way that you're analyzing this. Or do you think you 380 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 4: mentioned Vanderbilt, which is in my backyard here I'm in 381 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 4: a lum I mean to give me a size. It's 382 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: not a huge campus. We're not talking for people out there. 383 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 4: We're not talking about an Ohio State sized campus where 384 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 4: there are tens of thousands of students and hundreds of 385 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 4: acres involved. Does it surprise you that this could happen 386 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 4: or do you think there's a lot of college campuses 387 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 4: where kids may think they're safe and parents may think 388 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 4: their kids are safe, but somebody could walk in, shoot 389 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 4: them up, and walk right off the campus and get 390 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 4: away with it. Because while you're talking about just the 391 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 4: Brown cops, we also have all of the Providence area 392 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 4: police that I would think should also be able to respond, 393 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 4: right because it's in the middle of a city, so 394 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 4: it's not as if this is some rural, isolated campus 395 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 4: environment where there aren't resources surrounding it. 396 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I worked in the city that has a university. 397 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 5: We were not the first call when things jumped off 398 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 5: on campus. So it does take a little bit of 399 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 5: time before your city police get involved or your state 400 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 5: or wherever you're at. Universities are not near as safe 401 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 5: as they lead people to believe. Because they see the 402 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 5: police as an unwanted necessity. They tell their officers, don't 403 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 5: go out here stirring up stuff, don't be proactive, because 404 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 5: then we have to report the crime and we don't 405 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 5: want to report the crime, so if you don't go 406 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 5: find it, we don't have to report it, and we'll 407 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 5: get more students that come to our school. So it 408 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 5: absolutely could happen. Universities are not near as safe as 409 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 5: people are led to believe. 410 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: I mean, this is all really really interesting. 411 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 4: I think to walk through because when I was on campus, 412 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 4: they would always tell us, and I think you hear 413 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 4: it all the time, this is a very safe place. 414 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 4: A lot of campuses have like the big blue lights 415 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 4: that you hit where somebody could show up if you 416 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 4: feel uncomfortable, safeer eyed stuff like this. 417 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: But I just never would have believed, would you, Buck? 418 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 4: And I appreciate Frank from Kentucky calling in if you 419 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 4: had told me, hey, you can walk into an IVY 420 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: League campus with a gun. I think we just lost 421 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 4: Frank and shoot up a building and the guy can 422 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 4: walk off campus. I would have never believed that was 423 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 4: possible because that video is him just walking off campus 424 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 4: and we may never know who did it. I mean, 425 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 4: that is utterly insane to me that that could happen. 426 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 4: But it makes me wonder how many other campuses are 427 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 4: equally as susceptible to an attack like this as Brown was, 428 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 4: and what safety have we been sold? Because I think 429 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 4: most people understand that it's almost impossible to stop the shooting. 430 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 4: There's a new video by the way that Fox News 431 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 4: is playing of the person they say an interest in 432 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 4: at Brown University. But I'm not saying that I'm stunned 433 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 4: that there could be a shooting on campus. I am 434 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 4: utterly stunned that someone could leave a campus like a 435 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 4: Brown University and just get away with it. I would 436 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 4: not have believed that was possible that you could shoot 437 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 4: up a place and just walk off the off the facility. 438 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: Well, it depends on how many exits you. I mean, 439 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: you have to look at the specifics, the tactical realities 440 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: that you're dealing with. You would think that the police 441 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: response that I think would be fast enough where that 442 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: would be that would be hard. But Clay, you know, 443 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: people get away with a lot of things. I worked 444 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: the Times Square bombing as part of a pass force 445 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: of hundreds of people. Just to be clear, I was 446 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 1: one of, you know, a cast of thousands practically by 447 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: the Time Square bombing back in twenty ten. Faizel Shazad 448 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: and I read about this in my book manufacturing Delu. 449 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: I've never written about it before. You should go get 450 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: a copy of it on Amazon or wherever fine books 451 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: are sold. But I remember that case. The guy set 452 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: a truck a car bomb in Times Square on an 453 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: absolutely beautiful and busy Saturday, and Clay he got to 454 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: the airport and got on the plane. Yeah, he was 455 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: heading back to Pakistan. He almost got So people do 456 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: get away when they you think, oh, it's Time Square, 457 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: all the cops and everything. They're like, no, if you 458 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: get a start, you never know. The shooter that would. 459 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 4: Be assassin of Trump at the West Palm Beach golf 460 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 4: Course he got. 461 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 6: Out in the Yeah. 462 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 4: The only reason they caught him was because a woman 463 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 4: in the parking lot where he had been set up 464 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 4: for hours, jotted down his license plate number as he 465 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 4: was fleeing when the Secret Service fired at him. 466 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 6: Clay, the Charlie Kirk assassin turned himself in. Yeah, we 467 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 6: did not catch him. He turned himself in. Yeah, so 468 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 6: you know this is this is the reality that. 469 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: Sorry to cut you off. 470 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 4: One reason they did find the gun for the Charlie 471 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 4: Kirk assass and he abandoned it. According to reports on 472 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 4: the Utah Valley campus. There has there been any discussion 473 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 4: about the weapon that was used and whether it was 474 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 4: abandoned on the site or if the shooter just continued 475 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 4: with that weapon afterwards. I haven't seen the specifics on 476 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 4: that particular case. Some of you may know, but I 477 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 4: haven't seen that reported in the same in the same 478 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 4: way we were able to find that gun because he 479 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 4: had to abandon it. Now was a long rifle, so 480 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 4: it was harder to conceal. I think the shooting in Brown, 481 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 4: if I'm not mistaken, was a handgun. So the individual 482 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 4: in question here may well have just been able to 483 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 4: put that gun inside of inside of his outfit and 484 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 4: continued on. But we may never catch him. And I 485 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 4: think that's a question that a lot of campus security 486 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 4: officials have to be asking in the wake of this. 487 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 4: Is it's one thing to allow a shooting. It's almost impossible, 488 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 4: I should say, stop a shooting from happening. That's very 489 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 4: difficult if someone is committed to it. But the idea 490 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 4: that someone could do it, kill two people, wound nine, 491 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 4: and then just leave and they wouldn't be able to 492 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 4: stop it, it's kind of crazy. 493 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: It is indeed, so I wonder I honestly was thinking 494 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: that they would have an update for his clay during 495 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: the quarter. Yeah, I thought they'll probably get them during 496 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: the show, and maybe they will lie when we're finished. 497 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: But you would think, I mean, the era that we're 498 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: in of cell phone tracking, cameras everywhere, a lot of surveillance, 499 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: it should be a lot harder to get away with 500 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: crimes now that it has been previously. But it's still 501 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: situations like this still happened far too frequently where an 502 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: assailant in broad daylight in a crowded place is able 503 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: to kill a bunch of people and get away, which 504 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,959 Speaker 1: which causes also a continuing risk of the public too. 505 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: It's it's not just the frustration of we haven't gotten 506 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: this person. Maybe they're going to go try to shoot 507 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: somebody else. And that was certainly a member of the 508 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: Boston Marathon bombers. The manhunt for them, the huge concern 509 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: there was, well, they're not done. I mean, these guys 510 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: probably want to go out in a you know, in 511 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: a shootout of some kind or something. So and they 512 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: remember they got away after being at the Boston Marathon. 513 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: So it's a pretty common thing for the assailants to escape. 514 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 1: But We don't know anything about this guy right now 515 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: who did the shooting on the Brown campus other than 516 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: the only thing that goes to motive at this point 517 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: is the the the vice president of the Republican Club 518 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: was one of those killed. That could be coincidental. To 519 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: be clear, it could be. It does seem that that 520 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: would be quite a coincidence, but it could be. You know, 521 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: we don't know. That's the only data point we have 522 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: that starts to go toward any kind of a motive. 523 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: It could be totally a personal grudge. It's really just 524 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: guessing and surmising at this point. Clay, Yeah, Look, we 525 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: had some fun over the weekend. Some decent things did happen. 526 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: A lot of you went to great Christmas parties and 527 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: we had a grandpa throw a touchdown pass in the NFL. 528 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, forty four year old grandpa came out of 529 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: retirement and threw a touchdown pass. 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We're talking 550 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 4: about the Brown shooting and the fact that they do 551 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 4: not know the Brown University Providence, Rhode Island shooting. They 552 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 4: have now released a second video. You can barely see 553 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 4: anything on this video too, so in addition to the 554 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 4: fact that there was no response at all, I think 555 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 4: if you are spending the money that these universities are 556 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 4: susposed supposedly spending on security, I'm looking at this video 557 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 4: that they now have released. This is the second video. 558 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: You could still see nothing. 559 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 4: They have eight hundred cameras on campus. Now, maybe some 560 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 4: of these cameras are inoperable, and they're more for show 561 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 4: than they are for actual detection of crime or danger 562 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 4: on campus. But not only did this guy, presumably it's 563 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 4: a guy although we don't even really know, go into 564 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 4: campus and kill two people and shoot up a building 565 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 4: and have nine different people that he put in the hospital, 566 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 4: but he was able to walk all the way through 567 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 4: the campus, and they have virtually zero footage of him 568 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 4: at all in a way that could remotely help someone 569 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 4: catch this guy. I mean, I'm watching again all in black. 570 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 4: You can see very little about him. It's cold and 571 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 4: it's difficult to see, y'all. Extein is with us now 572 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 4: right before we finished the program. We've talked to her 573 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 4: quite a lot, and I bet you like both Buck 574 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 4: and myself. Yeao, when you woke up and saw the 575 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 4: news about the shooting in Sydney, it's awful. But given 576 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 4: all the anti Semitism that had been occurring in Australia, 577 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 4: did it surprise you, unfortunately that this even happened. 578 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 8: Wow, Well, this world is so dark. It's so sad 579 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 8: to say that nothing is surprising me these days. I 580 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 8: lived through October seventh, and I've lived through thirty five 581 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 8: thousand rockets being rained down on Israel from seven different fronts, 582 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 8: and so when I. 583 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 9: See the terror attacks that are happening around. 584 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 8: The world, my heart breaks. But it's not surprising. And 585 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 8: the message that's very clear to me is that it's 586 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 8: not isolated to Australia or America, or Europe or Israel. 587 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 9: We are in this together. 588 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 8: It is a global threat, that of darkness that hates light. 589 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 8: And so when I saw it, the first thing that 590 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 8: I thought about was how Christians and Jews and those 591 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 8: who sanctify life we have to come together to do 592 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 8: whatever we can. 593 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 9: To bring light in the world and not just rely. 594 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 8: On the politicians to make the right decisions on our behalf. 595 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's buck. Thank you for being with us. 596 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: If you could just speak to how has Australia been 597 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: when it comes to the handling of anti Semitism. I 598 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: just think there's a there's always a context here in 599 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: countries where a terrible attack like this happens. You know, 600 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: there was there's obviously been anti semitism here in America, 601 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: specifically after the October seventh attacks and then on campuses, 602 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: people saw a lot of that, but there was a 603 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: huge pushback against that from Trump administration, from millions and 604 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: millions of Americans across the country. Can you speak to 605 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: is Australia a place where this is taken with seriousness 606 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: or is it allowed to fester perhaps more than it should. 607 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 8: Well, we've seen across Australia lots of not just rallies 608 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 8: that were violent, calling for the destruction of Israel and 609 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 8: attack on Juwe, but we've seen politicians take part in that. 610 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 8: In Australia, they have not done a good job at 611 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 8: trying to stop the anti Semitism that's been growing over 612 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 8: the years. And that's when I realized that it's US. 613 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 8: It's the silenced majority. 614 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 9: There are I would say, three hundred. 615 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 8: Million Christians around the world. You look at the Far East, 616 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 8: you look at Korea and China, you look at South America, 617 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 8: you look America, you look in Australia and across North America. 618 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 8: Jews and Christians today need to stand together, and when 619 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 8: we don't rely on the government to take the right stand, 620 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 8: we can make such a big difference. Just since October seventh, 621 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 8: the Fellowship have distributed six million meals to people who 622 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 8: needed it. We've placed thousands of bomb shelters in Israel, 623 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 8: We've provided security to Jewish institutions around the. 624 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 9: World, including in Australia where there are threats. 625 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 8: And we've gone into Syria to provide medical conics and 626 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 8: food boxes for persecuted Christians in Syria. And so I 627 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 8: think we have to start relying on the government and 628 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 8: we have to do whatever we can the little bit 629 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 8: each one of us can to go out and do 630 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 8: it in order to bring comfort and hope to each other. 631 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 4: Because is this the worst happy, Yeah, sorry to cut 632 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 4: you off. There, is this the worst that you've ever 633 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 4: seen when it comes to anti Semitism around the world. 634 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 8: Well, it took twenty minutes for the authorities to respond, 635 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 8: and it was actually a heroic Arab man who attacked 636 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 8: one of the gunmen and took the gun out of 637 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 8: his hand that stabbed so many more people from being killed. 638 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 8: But yes, we've seen it though across the world. We've 639 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 8: seen it in Buenos Aires, we've seen it in America. 640 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 8: We've seen it. Synagogue is being shot up. 641 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 9: So fifteen people killed and that number. 642 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 8: Is still going up. It's something. There are no words 643 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 8: to describe the pain of the global Jewish community and 644 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 8: all people who think. 645 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 9: Of my life. 646 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 8: But it's going to get worse if we don't take 647 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 8: a stand against it, both politically and as individuals. 648 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 9: There's no more. We don't have the luxury of staying 649 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 9: silent anymore. Just like we put our Christmas trees on 650 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 9: the public square and our hanakamnours on the public square, 651 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 9: we have to go to the public square and say we. 652 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 8: Stand for life, we stand for freedom. 653 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 9: We won't let this happen under our watch. And I'm 654 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 9: my brother's keeper. 655 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 4: Yes, I am very well said. 656 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 7: Yeah. 657 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 4: We appreciate all the work that you and the Fellowship 658 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 4: is doing of Christians and Jews around the world, particularly 659 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 4: as we move closer and closer to Christmas and Hanukkah 660 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 4: itself is already underway. We'll be talking more and more 661 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 4: about this, the latest on the brown shooter. Hopefully we'll 662 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 4: be able to catch the person who shot up the 663 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 4: university soon and more tomorrow. Thanks for hanging with us 664 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 4: on Clay and Buck