1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Why from our nation's came this budget thing is going 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: to do nothing Space Force. I still think it's interesting 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: President Trump not playing his cards yet. Headlines Policy and 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: politics colliding to Bloomberg Sound On, the Insiders, the influencers, 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: the insides. I would rather see a congressional solution. It's 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: part of my DNA. The Senate map in looks a 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: lot different than it looked in. You really have a 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: divide within Team Trump. The president has to do exactly 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: what people sent him here to do, which is to 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: get it done. This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: Shirley on Bloomberg nine one one five point h D two. 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent from Bloomberg Television and 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Breaking news. Just within the last hour, Senate 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: Majority Leader Mitch McConnell talking to reporters and giving an 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: impeachment inquiry. Update this as transcripts continue to come out, 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: and Leader McConnell, the Republican from Kentucky, where President umpos 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: the other night, he had this to say. Take a 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: listen to Mitch McConnell about whether or not this impeachment 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: is going to lead to a removal from office. I'm 20 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: pretty sure how it's likely to end if it were today. 21 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question it would not lead 22 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: to a removal. It would not lead to a removal. 23 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: This is the most explicit terms folks that sent a 24 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: majority leader Mitch McConnell has laid out since this impeachment 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: inquiry began. Joining us on the telephone line, Donald Trump Jr. 26 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: He's got a new book out. We're gonna talk about that. 27 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: It's called Triggered. But don first of all, thanks for 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: calling in. Second of all, your reaction tonight, it's a 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: majority leader McConnell saying this is going nowhere. Well, listen, 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. I mean you saw leader the vote, 31 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: you know, obviously partisan with a few Democrats, you know, 32 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: actually coming over to the Republican side. Because all people 33 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: need to do is read the transcript. I mean, it's 34 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: sort of insane. Everything else is based on innuendo and uh, 35 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: you know opinion. I said this a couple of weeks 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: ago on Twitter, I go, who wants to bet? You know? 37 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: The whistle blower? All these guys, they come out of 38 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: the woodworks, end up having some sort of ties and 39 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: you know, to the left into this and dividen YadA 40 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: YadA yad, and of course they have. I mean, this 41 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: is a sham process, Kevin. I mean, let's not get ourselves. 42 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: This process started on November nine, when my father won. Uh. 43 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: The Washington Post wrote their first impeachment article nineteen minutes 44 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: after the inauguration, saying, it's, you know, the case for 45 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: the impeachment. They've been trying to do this forever. And 46 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 1: the problem is, you know, they think it's all great 47 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: and wonderful, but the real people in Middle America they 48 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: see what it is. They see the sham. They just 49 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: want to see him be able to do his job, 50 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: and they haven't let him do that. They've tried to 51 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: make it difficult. And the reality is he's delivering results 52 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: despite that unprecedented income. Now, if the Democrats worked with 53 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: him a little bit, maybe he did something like signing 54 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: the us m C a right to talk about Belosie's 55 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: death for nine months. You know she was doing that 56 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: and not signing it because you know that would pass 57 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: with bipartisans the board. I don't think anyone even questions 58 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: that it could be done in about three minutes. It 59 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: would bring a you know, hundred thousand plus jobs to Americans, 60 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: but like you know, that would also give a wind 61 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 1: to Trump and we can't have that. Uh, And that's 62 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: a shame. And that's the state of the American political system. 63 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: I wrote the book in part because I got to 64 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: experience that. I mean, you were you saw me on 65 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: the campaign trails, uh during sixteen but uh, I was 66 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: shooting guns all what happened afterwards? Right? Yeah? Well all right, 67 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: so let's let's we've got a lot to talking about. 68 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: And you mentioned U S M c A or NAFTA 69 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: two point oh as they call it in your book. 70 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: You take me back to your high school years when 71 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: you were at the Hill and you talk specifically about 72 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: this was, as you write in the book, triggered your 73 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: first exposure to NAFTA and it's impacts. Talk to me 74 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, listen, you know, make no mistake, I'm 75 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: not saying it wasn't a you know, a boarding school 76 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: where a lot of rich you know, But again, I 77 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: went there from eighth grade on. So my formative years here, 78 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: I went through puberty and the rest belt you know. 79 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: I I dated girls from those towns. I had friends 80 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: from the town I mean we you know, I grew 81 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: up in you know, the way reality is. I grew 82 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: up in that rust belt, uh, you know part of 83 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: the country, and I saw those people, and I saw 84 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: the jobs. I think. You know, that resonated on the 85 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: campaign trail in sixteen and with my hobbies, whether it's hunting, fishing, 86 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: competitive shooting, all of those things that I do. I mean, 87 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't leave me in New York much on the weekends. 88 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not a fixture on the New York 89 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: City garity dinners circuit. You know. I spend my time 90 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: with real Americans in the real part of the country, 91 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: and I see those people, and honestly, I see the 92 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: Democrats in that part of the country. And then they 93 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: to me, like, listen, I'm a Democrat, but like, man, 94 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: I wish they'd let him just do his job. Seems 95 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: like you're doing pretty good. And when I talk to 96 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: them about being a Democrat. I understand the history, I 97 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: understand the tradition. But I asked those same guys, you know, 98 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: those blue collar Democrats that you know, I think the 99 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: Democrat Party has totally forgotten, uh, And certainly that resonated 100 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: in sixteen. I go, you don't listen. I get it. 101 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: You know, you quote unquote would be rolling over. Your 102 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: grandfather'd be rolling over in his grave if he knew 103 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: you were voting for a Republican. But I go, what 104 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: would you say about today's Democrat Party platform? And the 105 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: reality is this, Kevin, You know, this is not your 106 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: grandfather's Democrat Party. That party has long gone. That party 107 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: has left the hard working men and women of this 108 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: country long ago, and they got to sort of get 109 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 1: over that tradition of voting that way, because those people 110 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: don't represent their values anymore. They don't represent their interests anymore. Uh, 111 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: you know, as as evidenced by you know, most of 112 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: the things that they make a big deal these days legislatively, 113 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: but more importantly and evidenced by shitting on the renegotiation 114 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: of NAFTA, which with a twenty five year disaster, which 115 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: did nothing but export our American dream to other countries, 116 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: to send our jobs to other places and destroy the 117 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: working class of America. See. I think this is this 118 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: is interesting because even now I've been to all the 119 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: Democratic debates and it's come up a few times. But 120 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: so Elizabeth Warren says that that NAFTA, that not to 121 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: two point or U S m C isn't liberal enough, 122 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: and then you've got this divide. Biden says, you know, 123 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: he's perceived, you know this done. He's perceived as not 124 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: as not liking tariffs as much as your dad, President Trump. 125 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: So when you look at the debate within the Democratic 126 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: Party now, and as you told Fox News, you said 127 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: that earlier today, President John F. Kennedy would have been 128 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: a quote unquote a right neo Nazi terrorist if he 129 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: was running as a Democrat. Uh what they'd call him. 130 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: I mean, let's not forget. First of all, Joe Biden, 131 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: he gave your NAFTA. Okay, he's one of the people 132 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: involved in NAFTA. Joe Biden doesn't think that China is 133 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: a threat to America, and by the way, neither do 134 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: the other Democrats because last time on the debate stage, 135 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: they spent more time talking about Donald Trump's Twitter accounts 136 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: than they ever did about China. They never even brought 137 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: China up. Joe Biden doesn't think China's a threat because 138 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: his son took one point five billion from them. So 139 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: let's just say he's probably on the payroll. Okay, we 140 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: can't you know, discount that to say that China is 141 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: not an actual threat to America when we've been neglecting 142 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: those trade policies for so long. No one's doing. Even 143 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer's like, oh, it's about time we needed to, 144 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, fight back on this nonsense. Give me a break. 145 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: You can't sell that man that that's such nonsense. But 146 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: they won't make it an issue because those aren't real 147 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: issues for the Democrat Party anymore. Like I said, the 148 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: party has been hijacked by the radical left, by the 149 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: socialists and the communists, and they're not worried about those 150 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: kind of things. They probably are fine with it. Uh, 151 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: you know, they're not fighting for the American working class, 152 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: so you know that's not an issue for them. You know, 153 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: they'll spend a lot of time, you know, talking about nonsense, 154 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: and they want to try to stop Donald Trump, you know, 155 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: having a Twitter account, because they're attacking you know, the 156 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: free speech of the First Amendment. Certainly they're attacking the 157 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: Second Amendment. You know, they don't have that same value 158 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: system that so many of those hard working Democrats. That's 159 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: why when I go out there and I'm railing against Democrats, 160 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: I usually just say leftist because I know a lot 161 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: of good, hard working Democrats. You know, they're they're more 162 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: Democrat again, you know, because of tradition than actual values. 163 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: But that's the way they are, and I don't want 164 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: to insult them that way. But those guys do they 165 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: do have to wake up and sort of figure out that, 166 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: you know this, that their party has left them a 167 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: long time ago, and the Republicans are the only ones 168 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: acting in their best interesting Donald Trump juniors on the line. 169 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: His new book is called Triggered Don. I was up 170 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill earlier today and uh and and before 171 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: that at the White House for Bloomberg Television, and we've 172 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: been reporting in terms of the ongoing US China trade deal. 173 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: But when when I was up on the hill, I mean, 174 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: so much of the conversation in the halls, amongst a 175 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: lot of the mainstream reporters, as well as even amongst 176 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: the staff level, and they're in recess, has been about this, 177 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: the release of these transcripts, And I was thinking to myself, 178 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: I wonder if Don thinks that this this, if Rudy 179 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: Giuliani was really the right person to be working for 180 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: his dad. What's your assessment of how Rudy's relationship has 181 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: been with President Trump. Let's I think the relationship is great. 182 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: You know, I think the reality is Ruddy's Rudy's a fighter, 183 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: so he gets up there in fights. I don't know, 184 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: we know about the details about what's actually going on 185 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: there because I'm not in the administration. I frankly don't 186 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: get involved as seeing what happens. You know, with that is, 187 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: you know, being a big part of the book, as 188 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: you know, being the number two targets after my father 189 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: of the original uh impeachment inquiry were also known as 190 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: the Russia hoax, the Mullering Inquisition. Uh. You know, so, 191 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: so I've been there, done that scene it. Uh. You know, 192 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate having people that fight. I don't know the 193 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: actual involvement. I don't know that it matters that much. 194 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: I think the reality is my father released the actual transcripts. Kevin. Uh. 195 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: You know, people seem to neglect that, you know, I 196 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: read about every day. You know, democracy dies in darkness. 197 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: Interesting because you know they have no problem conducting an 198 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: inquiry led by judge jury executioner Adam Schiff, who for 199 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: three years pedal to the American people on TV on 200 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: a daily basis that he had some sort of magical 201 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: evidence that no one else has seen still hasn't been released, 202 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: amazingly enough, after that one's over. Uh, you know, this 203 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: is the guy that's making the decision. This is the 204 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: guy that's deciding whether Republican can answer you ask a 205 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: question or not. Who's the next witness. So after leading 206 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: them like he coached Cohen and all of those other 207 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: people in the original attempts to get my father, you know, 208 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: this isn't a democratic process, isn't on a fair process, 209 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: and the mainstream media is more than happy to, you know, 210 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: continue to be the marketing wing of the Democrat Party. 211 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: You'll be out there and say, oh no, no, this 212 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: is so fair, Like let's not kid ourselves when they 213 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: do the comparison to the Clinton uh impeach. Now, Quinn 214 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: had real lawyers that were able to actually be out there, 215 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: to be in there, to be in the hearings to 216 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: do this. You actually had Democrats I think thirty four 217 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: of them that voted for impeachment. Uh. You know, it 218 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: was a little three under oath Like it's it's a 219 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: little different than well, you know, some guy who's a 220 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: leftist whatever it is, you know that worked for Biden 221 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: the past. His opinion is this, when the transcripts out there, 222 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: when we Ukraine didn't even know about any kind of holes, 223 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: when they think we're going on, I mean, this is 224 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: a farce and a sham of a problem. You think 225 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: the American people see that too? Do you think President 226 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: Trump should release the transcripts from Joe Biden's calls with 227 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: the Ukrainians? I'd love to say, hey, Kevin, I you 228 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: know I've seen that. You know, what what would happen? 229 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: What would the what would that Myhington media do if 230 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: I went over right now to the Ukraine and got 231 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: an eighty three thousand dollar a month gig minor details. 232 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about oil hunter and I don't 233 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: know anything. I don't speak Ukrainian. Do you think they 234 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: have a problem with that? You know, my dad's making 235 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 1: policy decisions. That's okay. No, he's a private business. And 236 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: you know, Don Jr. That's rich. You've got rich because 237 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: of your father. I don't even hide from that. I've 238 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: said that my whole life, like I'm I am here 239 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: and in a big part because of my father and 240 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: our last name, the differences we did that as private businessman, 241 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden magically became an international businessman. Okay, when his 242 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: father assumed the vice presidency was in charge of the rule. 243 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden gets on Air Force two, goes to China, 244 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: magically comes back with one point five billion dollars in 245 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: five days, when the greatest investors in the world take 246 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: years to break into China. Give me a break. If 247 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: I did those same things, they destroy me. But do 248 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: you think that when we got into the presidency my 249 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: father got we literally stopped doing any new international heals. 250 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: They don't talk about that. They run this false equivalency 251 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: of what your international business people. Yeah, we have deals 252 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: that we started in twenty ten that we have to complete. 253 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: We have a contractual obligation. We voluntarily gave up all 254 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: of the business are a big part of what I did. 255 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's probably why I've gotten more involved in politics, 256 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: because I can't do the stuff that I was doing. Uh, 257 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: you know, three years ago as an international businessman, we 258 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: said we don't do any new deals, going to get 259 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: rid of any impropriety, you know, And they say, you know. So. 260 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: The false equivalency that they run with between us and 261 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden is asinine. But no, no, but that's not 262 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: But do you think that the president should release the 263 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: transcripts of Biden's calls with the Ukrainians from his time 264 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: as I think they should get them all. But I 265 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: think the reality is you gotta fight fire with fire. 266 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: But I love to see presidents and leaders be able 267 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: to have conversations with other leaders that then don't get 268 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: spread all over there for the political grand standing and messaging, 269 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: because I think, as a business guy, if I put 270 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: my businessman hat on, you know, you need to be 271 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: able to have open dialogue with deal with allies and 272 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: yet frankly with adversaries. And if they're worried about then 273 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: that that's gonna get selectively leaked and everything that they 274 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: say no one's going to have honest dealings with you 275 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: actually get nothing done. So I'd love not to see that, 276 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: but that's you know, that's what the media will do. 277 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: You know, the same media you know who destroys Donald 278 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: Trump all day long and says, you know, the fifteen 279 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: year old kids like Nick Sanman who did nothing in 280 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: War a Maka had, you know, are homegrown terrorists to 281 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 1: say that Al mac Daddi, the leader of Ice, is 282 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: who's doused journalists with fuel and lit them on fire. 283 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: You know, he's an austere religious scholar, Kevin. I mean, 284 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: no one believes they're getting the truth from the media anymore. 285 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: It's they listen to me. They listened to Bloomberg Radio 286 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: sound on. You're You're the exception, Kevin. You know, I'll 287 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: give you, you know, the credit for being, you know, 288 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: an honest dealer in in the years that I've known you, 289 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: and that's fair, but there's so few that are There's 290 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: so many that just have eliminated even the pretense of 291 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: objectivity at that point. And and that's scary. I had 292 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: um earlier today, don Juniors on the line is books 293 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: called triggered. We've got a couple more minutes with them left. 294 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: I I popped into the Trump hotel and my colleagues 295 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: have been reporting that you guys potentially might be selling 296 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: this is any update on that, now, listen, we'd look 297 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: at it. The reality of this because because of the deal, 298 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: you have a hotel in d C. And you know, 299 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: in other places where we've literally said, unlike the Biden's 300 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: we said, hey, if international business, you know, from foreign 301 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: governments whatever, you know, that's sort of DC. Right, Uh, 302 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: if we get any business from them, we're literally stroking 303 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: a check back to the treasury. But then you have 304 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: all the activist group. Well, well that guy he worked 305 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: maybe in an embassy somewhere. He bought a cheeseburger for 306 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: five dollars, and you've got to do an entire audit, 307 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: have account. It's fine. I mean, it's not worth trying 308 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: to run a business that way. It doesn't make any sense, 309 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, so you know, we may look to sell 310 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: it if if if it makes sense, we may do that, 311 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: or well, you know, we'll wait. In five years we 312 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: can get back to business as normal and be able 313 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: to run it. But you know, it's sort of hard 314 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: to run a business, you know, especially in d C. 315 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: We can say, hey, we won't take any of that 316 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: kind of international business that is the majority of DC, 317 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: and you expect to run a business, it's build an 318 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: incredible asset um. But yeah, we'd look at that. Gun control. 319 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: I know how you feel about gun control. I think 320 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: everybody knows how you feel. But this is something that 321 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: that you also know a lot of independent voters in 322 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: particular are paying attention to this. And and where is 323 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: an area that you think done. And you've write about 324 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: this a little in your book. Where do you think 325 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: there's some areas where they're actually might be some bipartisanship 326 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: on this incredibly polarizing issue. Well, yeah, the problem is Kevin, honestly, 327 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: i'd love to see, you know, there'd be some bipartisanship. 328 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I cover that, I've said that. The real 329 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: problem is this. I mean, you know, you look at 330 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: it tweet from a couple of weeks ago, sort of 331 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: you know, Ben Shapiro said something if someone Gamy was doing, 332 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, you have a gun, and you know immediately 333 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: you know, Eric Swalwell, you know, tinfoil hat brigade commander 334 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: jumps in. This is why you need red flag lost. 335 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna report Ben Shapiro under red flag gloss. 336 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: And that's the problem. The Left is never going to 337 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: deal honestly. They will always take whatever legislation they have 338 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: to weaponize it against legitimate, law abiding citizens because their 339 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: their goal is not to come up with better it's 340 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: to eliminate it entirely. And that's the problem is they 341 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: show that with all of that, they're not being genuine dealers, 342 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: They're not being honest dealers. So I'd love to have 343 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: that conversation, but you know, the second they get an interest, 344 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: the next day, you know they're back in there calling 345 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: again because they're not looking to represent law abiding citizens. 346 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I wish they would do something and mental 347 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: how much harsher penalties on those who actually break those laws. 348 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: You don't look like Chicago, Okay, But they won't do 349 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: that because then they're gonna get called racist for actually 350 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: enforcing laws. Uh, you know, it doesn't work. They're not 351 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: being honest dealers. I mean, I'd love to see something happen, 352 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: but I truly don't believe that anyone on that side 353 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: won't then immediately weaponize, whether it's red black laws or 354 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: anything else, to try and make it impossible for law 355 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: abiding citizens to exercise their rights. Say you know it. 356 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: Every time they open their mouth, You've said in a 357 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: couple of your interviews today, everybody's asked you all, is 358 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: you gonna run for office one day? Is he gonna 359 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: run for Congress? Is he gonna run for Senate? So 360 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: let me quickly ask you, well, you if you were 361 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: up against Chelsea Clinton don for a House seat in 362 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: New York, who would win? You were Chelsea. But I 363 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: guess it depends on what region right or north or 364 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: south of Westchester County North North, I'd probably do pretty well. 365 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: Uh you know Westchester. In south that may be harder. 366 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: But you know the reality is, you know, my only 367 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: focus in politics right now is making sure my father 368 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: gets reelected. I see the results, I see the job numbers, 369 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: I see the economy. I see that. There's but one 370 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: more question. I know. I'm not to interrupt. I'm an 371 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: interrupt because I want to get this in. What about 372 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: a senator in Wyoming? If Liz Cheney doesn't run, would 373 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: you consider running in senator? Had some people try to 374 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: recruit it for that not not this time around. Like 375 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: I said, my only focus is getting my father reelected. 376 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: I have no other political aspirations beyond that. That doesn't 377 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: mean I won't do it in the future. It doesn't 378 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: mean I won't stay involved. You know, I'm into it. 379 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: I like it. I love seeing sort of, you know, 380 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: some of the new guys rising up who are willing 381 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: to fight for conservative values as opposed to those who 382 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: you know sort of you know they've talked about it 383 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: for their entire lives, but you know they've never actually 384 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: had the guts to actually stand up and push back 385 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: against the leftist mob. They're more concerned about being loved 386 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: by a media that would destroy them in two seconds, uh, 387 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: if they had the chance. So you know that that's 388 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: not my game. I'm there to support the guys that 389 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: are gonna help my father, and I think I'm gonna 390 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: do that very hard for the next twelve months. See, 391 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: I remember this my last question for you. Thanks Don 392 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: Jr's books called Triggered. We appreciate you always stopping by 393 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: making time for us on on this program. Uh, you've 394 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: you're write about this in the books. So many folks 395 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: know you for your strong view, particularly as it relates 396 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: to guns, and they agree, they disagree. You know, we'll 397 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: let them decide. But this stems from your childhood and 398 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: with your grandmother and spending time with her in Czechoslovakia 399 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: and your time and your time over there when you 400 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: spend a lot of time outdoors, and in the book 401 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: you write about how that was actually your first conversations 402 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: about socialism and the role that she's played. Tell me 403 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, well, I mean this is a big 404 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: part of the book and it's sort of you know 405 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: why maybe I'm an unlikely conservative, right. I you know, 406 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: I grew up in New York City as the son 407 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 1: of a billionaire, one to ivy League school, did all that. 408 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not supposed to be a conservative. But 409 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: I had a mother that escaped Communist checks flot Yeah, 410 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: I had a grandfather that you know, had that conversation 411 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: when my parents. You know, the blessings that we have 412 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: living in this country with our freedoms are incredible. Uh, 413 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: and you know your should see the other side. So 414 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: I used to spend my summers as a kid. They're 415 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: five six years old, um speak the language. Had friends 416 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: over there. And trust me, I've waited in those breadlines 417 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: that everyone's glamorizing and saying they're so wonderful. I can 418 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: assure you they're not when you've actually lived it. I say, 419 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: you know, why is it that, you know, if socialism 420 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: is so wonderful and it's becoming a mainstream, you know, 421 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: part of the leftist movement, Uh, from real candidates who 422 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: are viable presidential contenders, Like how come there's not someone 423 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: from Eastern Europe? How come there's not someone from former 424 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: Soviet Union? How come there's not someone from China? From Cuba, 425 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: from Venezuela, all of these countries that have been destroyed 426 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: by those systems. How come there's no one there here 427 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: vouching for it, saying no, no no, no, we gotta bring 428 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: that here. It's such a wonderful thing. No one. Oh, 429 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: you have his academics and Bernie Sanders and you know, 430 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: the wars of the world preaching, you know, these virtues, 431 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: and it doesn't work. You know, I've seen it firsthand. 432 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: I have a ninety three year old grandmother who was 433 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: tough woman, uh, tougher than most of the people and 434 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: certainly my generation. You know, she hid from the Nazis 435 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: for two years in the basement of her farmhouse as 436 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: in her twenties and late teens during World War Two. 437 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: Then she lived through Communist occupation and she calls me, 438 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 1: you know, she watched a Cnno we there. So that's 439 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: all they have right now? Done you You don't understand. 440 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: It always sounds so good, it always sounds so wonderful, 441 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: everything's free, everything's great. It's not. You can This is 442 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: a woman who's been through a lot, who's in tears 443 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 1: for fear of the future of her grandchildren and her 444 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: great grandchildren because she knows what those systems will eventually 445 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: do and what they become. You know, that's my biggest 446 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: motivator being in this sight. It's not you know, Republican Democrat. 447 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: It's fighting against that nonsense. I mean, this election is 448 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: about freedom versus socialism and eventually communism. And they're not 449 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: even hiding it anymore. It's not a fringe element of 450 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: the party. Uh. It's truly scary. And it's her telling 451 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: me that. In relaying that story, and me as a 452 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: five year old getting pulled out of a customs line 453 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: because I was wearing a jean jacket with the American 454 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: flag on it, the stars and stripes, by a guy 455 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: in a drab military outfit, questioning me as to whatever 456 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: I was there to spread the virtues of you know, 457 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: um capitalism as a five year old. You know, that 458 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: was the first fear I've ever had in my life. 459 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: I've been there, I've seen it. Uh, and I promise 460 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: you I will do whatever I can to fight against 461 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: that crap. It's not coming here. Donald Trump, Donald Trump Jr. 462 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: The book is called Triggered. Don great to catch up 463 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: with you, appreciate the time. Thank you, Kevin. Good to 464 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: be with you coming up. We talked more about the 465 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: policy and politics driving the day. Download the Bloomberg Sound 466 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: On podcast on Apple iTunes, at Bloomberg dot com, or 467 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: by downloading the Bloomberg Business App. You can also find 468 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: us on Radio dot Com, I Heart Radio, and Spotify. 469 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: Um Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and 470 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. You're listening to Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg 471 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: Sound On with Kevin Shirley on Bloomberg and one oh 472 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: five point seven f M h D two. I'm Kevin Cirelli, 473 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. Big 474 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: News Today, folks at a majority Leader. Mitch McConnell weighing 475 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: into the impeachment inquiry to reporters just before I got 476 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 1: on air, I was up on Capitol holl basically all 477 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: day and McConnell, excuse me. McConnell talked to reporters, and 478 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: this after the continued release of these transcripts from the 479 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: closed door testimony, and he had this to say, take 480 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: a listen to McConnell about the impeachment ink Where here 481 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: he is. I'm pretty sure how it's likely to end 482 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: if it were today, I don't think there's any question 483 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: it would not lead to a removal. So he says 484 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: it's not going to lead to a removal from office. 485 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: Joining us for the dissection of the news. Brendan Buck, 486 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: former spokesman and advisor to HOWSE speaker Paul Ryan, now 487 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: a partner at seven Letter. Alex Wayne's here Bloomberg White 488 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 1: House Lead editor, Uh, Alex, I was struck by this, 489 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: and coming up, we're gonna hear a little bit of 490 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: my interview with d n C Chairman Tom Perez. But 491 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: I was struck by this because McConnell came out today 492 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: and said despite the additions to the transcripts and the 493 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: modifications to some of the transcripts, he doesn't see this 494 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: as as as evidence for removal. Well, I think there's 495 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: an important caveat there. Though he said a fit were 496 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: to end today, he doesn't think the president would be removed. 497 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 1: It's not going to end today. There's going to be 498 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: there's going to be more revelations coming out of this, uh, 499 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: this whole affair in Ukraine and uh and and I 500 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: don't know that it will get better for the President 501 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: um so the big news today. House committees investigating President 502 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: Donald Trump released transcript Tuesday of closed door testimony from 503 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Soundlin and former special 504 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: on Kurt Vulcar, and pretty much what they're saying is that, well, 505 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: the President was was looking for there to be some 506 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: type of political implications with regards to the aid tied 507 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: to Ukraine. Um Brendan Buck, you're an insider for Republicans. 508 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: Take us behind the scenes. What a Republicans saying about 509 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: these transcripts, Well, I think it's important to appreciate for 510 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: House Republicans, the goal at this point is not necessarily 511 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 1: to stop the impeachment in the House. I think they 512 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: appreciate the Democrat let's have what they feel is a 513 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: compelling case. They have the votes and there's probably going 514 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: to be a vote to impeach in the House. What 515 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: they're now looking to do is sort of create a 516 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: firewall with Republicans in the Senate. And I think that's 517 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: part of what Mitch McConnell was doing today to make 518 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: sure that the base Republican voters are fired up about this, 519 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: that they are making sure that Republican senators are hearing 520 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: from voters back home and to limit the number of 521 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: Republicans who are in play. Um. I think he's right. 522 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: I think at this point, um, the president wouldn't be removed. 523 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: And I also think if it's in two months, the 524 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: president is probably not going to be removed. So you 525 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: heard firewall. I mean you said the word firewall, And 526 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: that's kind of reading between the lines. That's what you're 527 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: gathering from McConnell's remarks today. Yeah, Well, because he's a strategist, 528 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: he doesn't get out in front of a microphone. I 529 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: think what he's trying to do is take a little 530 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: wind out of the sales of Democrats. It almost reminds 531 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: me of the Merritt Garland comments getting getting way ahead, 532 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: dictating the outcome from the very beginning, and and sort 533 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: of setting expectations low that anything is going to happen here. 534 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: He's basically saying, you know, you can do that all 535 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: you want, but no one's going to take it seriously. 536 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: And it sort of deflates the seriousness of of what's 537 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: happening here. You know, for such a dramatic thing that 538 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: is happening, or should be dramatic, it actually feels like 539 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: it doesn't have the drama. You sort of feel like 540 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: you know what's going to happen in the House, you 541 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: kind of know what's gonna happen in the Senate, and 542 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: maybe there is something more to come. But basically, what 543 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: we've heard over and over again through the leaks or 544 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: through the transcripts that have come out, it's sort of 545 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: the same narrative. And if you think that that's worthy 546 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: of impeachment, um, you know you you should know that 547 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: by now. And I don't know what else we think 548 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: is going to happen from those behind this behind closed 549 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: doors depositions to what happens at the at these hearings, 550 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: that is going to be dramatically different. All right, enough, 551 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: coming up, we talked to US China Trade Policy. We're 552 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: gonna dive into the weeds. Wow. I mean not that 553 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: we admire your your take, both Alex and Brendan, but 554 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to US China Trade Policy panel, stays 555 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: Brendan Buck. Alex Wayne, I'll play for you in my 556 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Television interview with Tom Perez, Chairman of the d 557 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: n C. Download the Bloomberg Sound On podcast on Apple 558 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: iTunes at Bloomberg dot Com or by downloading the Bloomberg 559 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: Business app. Can also find me on Radio dot Com, 560 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Spotify. I'm Kevin Cereli, Chief Washington 561 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: correspondent for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. You're listening to Bloomberg. 562 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Surley on Bloomberg 563 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: and one oh five point seven f m h D two. 564 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Sireli, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and 565 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Earlier today on Bloomberg Television, I interviewed Tom Perez. 566 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: Tom Perez, chairman of the Democratic National Committee. He stopped 567 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: by our Bloomberg Bureau today and we were talking about 568 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: a host of different topics, but I asked him about 569 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: the impeachment inquiry, whether or not, how it's gonna play 570 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: in the elections, the elections that are that are being 571 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: held today and a couple of governor races across the 572 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: country Mississippi, Kentucky, but also in the year ahead for 573 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: twenty not just the presidential but also the downballot races 574 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: and competed at the states in swing states Virginia to 575 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: Stu extent, a swing state. Take a listen to Tom 576 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: Perez about the appeachment in Quarry and its effect on electionterias. 577 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: I think there's fatigue over a president who has made 578 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: so many promises that he's broken. I mean, you look 579 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: at he went into Ohio and Pennsylvania and Michigan, Wisconsin 580 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: and said there will never be a plant closure. Now 581 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: we're in the midst of manufacturing recession. Barack Obama saved 582 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: the auto industry with the Democrats, and this president made 583 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: promises in the in Youngstown, Ohio and elsewhere that he's broken. 584 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: This president said to farmers, you're over the hump, when 585 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: the reality is, uh, they're over the barrel, and they're 586 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: over the barrel because of teriffs. This president is making 587 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 1: people's lives worse in so many ways, shapes and forms. 588 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: That's what's on people's mind. Can I trust this president 589 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: as he kept his promises? Am I better off now 590 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: than I was four years ago? In the answer for 591 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: the vast majority of people is no. You said something. 592 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: There final question for it. You said something that you 593 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: said two words manufacturing recession. When you look at the 594 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: jobs numbers from the past week, which showed additional drop 595 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: growth but what you're saying is will look specifically into 596 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: specific sectors that impact a lot of those states that 597 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: Democrats need to win back Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania. So 598 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: do you think that when you look at the overall 599 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: economic indicators that perhaps when you dig deeper, it's a 600 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: different story than the top line. Well, I think you know. 601 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: One of the most interesting polls I read was two 602 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: days ago, and two thirds of the American people who 603 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: were pulled said that they're no better off now than 604 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: they were when Donald Trump came to office. And and 605 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: of that cohort, half of them said they're worse off. 606 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: Half of them said they're no better off. And so 607 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: we get back to a question Ronald Reagan asked, uh 608 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: in a debate many years ago, are you better off 609 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: now than you were four years ago? This president made 610 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: all these promises that tax cuts are gonna help everyone. 611 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: That turned out to be a lie. No plant closures, 612 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: another lie, I'm gonna keep your healthcare going after you 613 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: if you have pre existing conditions, All of these lies, 614 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: and if you're if your salary goes up a dollar 615 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: and the cost of prescription drugs and housing and gasoline, 616 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: and your whole overall healthcare goes up by two dollars, 617 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: You're falling behind. And that's what we see across this country. 618 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: There's if you don't have healthcare security, you don't have 619 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: economic security. And and those farmers in Wisconsin that I've met, 620 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: and and Wisconsin, by the way, is the farm bankruptcy 621 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: capital of America. Notwithstanding what Donald Trump said there and 622 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: uh generational farmers who are losing their livelihood. And it's 623 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: because Donald Trump made their life worse with these senseless tariffs. 624 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: Tom Perez talking terroriffs, Chairman of the Democratic National Committee. 625 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: Up next. What's on the panel's radar. I'm Kevin Cirelli, 626 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. You're 627 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: listening to Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg's Sound on with Kevin 628 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: Shirley on Bloomberg and one oh five points seven of 629 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: m HD two. I love that song YouTube Beautiful Day. 630 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: It was a beautiful day. I'm Kevin Cirelli, chief Washington 631 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: correspondent from Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. My two guests, 632 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: esteemed panelists, Washington insiders. Alex Wayne Bloomberg, White House Lead Editor, 633 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: and Random Buck, former spokesman and advisor to House Speaker 634 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: Paul Ryan and partner at seven Letter. What's up the 635 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: former speaker been up to Brendan um Well first and 636 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: foremost of course spending more time with his family. Um 637 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: he's been you know, he's on the board of the 638 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: Fox Corporation. He's yeah, I saw that, giving some speeches 639 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: here and there. He has taken a role at the 640 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: American Enterprise Institute, and he has started his own foundation, 641 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: the American Ideas Foundation, which will be focused on alleviating 642 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: poverty and finding solutions, local solutions to help lift people up, 643 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: local solutions to help That's interesting. So will that eventually 644 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,959 Speaker 1: be like a think tank or is it more of 645 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: a Yeah, I think it will have a bit of 646 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: a think tank dynamic. It will also be actually going 647 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: out and finding some local organizations that are doing a 648 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: really good job fighting poverty and supporting them, whether it's 649 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: with resources or attention or things like that. Is that 650 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: based here? Is that going to be in I think 651 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: they'll be based out of Wisconsin, but they'll be Uh, 652 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: they have a partnership I believe, or we'll have a 653 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: partnership with a major university and interesting. Interesting. All right, 654 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: Alex Wain, let's talk because all these polls that are 655 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: coming out nationally. When I look at these polls, what 656 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: I see is Joe Biden is still the front runner 657 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: amongst the Democrats. Then you get this other poll of 658 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: the swing states. It was the New York Times poll, 659 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: and that shows Trump competitive with in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Florida, Arizona. Uh, 660 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: that he's competitive amongst whoever would be the nominee. Still trailing. 661 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: But what are you seeing in the polls? What are 662 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: you gathering from where stands right now? Yeah, Well, first 663 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: of all, I'm a little surprised that Joe Biden hasn't 664 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: taken more of a beating out of the out of 665 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: the Ukraine incident. Uh. You know, a lot of a 666 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: lot of this, a lot of this stuff coming out 667 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: of Ukraine, uh kind of Uh. You know, he obviously 668 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: wasn't guilty of doing anything in Ukraine. I think that's 669 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: a that's a canard propagated by some Republicans. But um, 670 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: I think you can you can legitimately ask why Joe 671 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: Biden didn't tell his son like get out of Ukraine. Um, 672 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: but he's not taking a lot of He's not taking 673 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: a lot of heat for that from from voters. He's 674 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 1: still seems to be leading the race, uh so nationally 675 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: at least. I don't know how he's gonna do in Iowa. 676 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: We reported last week that his Iowa campaign is kind 677 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: of a mess, kind of I only want doing worse. Well, 678 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: I guess is Kamala Harris and New Hampshire. Yeah, maybe 679 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: I understated that. I said in a tweet his Iowa campaign. 680 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: Democrats and I are calling his campaign garbage, and her 681 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: Biden reporter he got a little, a little upset it 682 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: with me, was like, that's let's a little too go 683 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: ahead of It's a great guy, he's reporting. It's great, excellent, 684 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: big fan of Silo pages, very good. Uh Pete Buddhajag 685 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: is coming on and Iowa apparently um surging. You said 686 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: to fourth place earlier while we were off air, I said, 687 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,239 Speaker 1: I said, I said, he is is now in the 688 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: top tier in Iowa. Some poles have him at third, 689 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: other poles have him at at at at at fourth, 690 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting. I think I think he's an 691 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: interesting candidate. I think his problem is black voters. They 692 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: don't they don't they don't like him. He pulls it 693 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: like zero percent with black voters. Uh. And there's this 694 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: weird thing yesterday whereas his press secretary's National Presstary secretary 695 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: went on Twitter and went on this like Twitter thread 696 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: where she apparently instructed white Buddha Judge supporters on how 697 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: to speak to black people online. It was very strange. 698 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: It wasn't list Smith, it was it was it was 699 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: somebody else that didn't recognize who works. What are you 700 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: as a as a Republican observer? Friend? And Buck? What 701 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: do you make of of where things are with buddhag 702 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: Edge versus Biden? For that centrist Lane He gave an 703 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: interview recently where he really said that the Iraq War 704 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: was something that that was a divisive issue amongst him Biden. 705 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean, can Buddha Judge really mount as an alternative 706 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: to Biden? Yeah? I think in places like Iowa he can. 707 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: I think that it's funny. He definitely made a pivot 708 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: that there was a period in time where he was 709 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: running as the strong progressive just like most of the 710 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: other you know, the Elizabeth Warren and Cory Booker and 711 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris's and at one point decided that doesn't work 712 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 1: for me. I think he A few of them have tried. 713 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: I think Corey Booker tried, a few of them have 714 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: tried to be the Biden alternative. I think he's been 715 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: the most successful at it because he's actually sort of 716 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: moderated some of his positions. You know, he's the one 717 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: who took on Elizabeth Warren on Medicare for all um 718 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: and he started to kind of shoot down some of 719 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: her ideas. And I think what he's trying to do 720 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: is become a b versus Warren and that that's basically 721 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: what he's been saying. And to a certain degree, I 722 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: think I think it's working now to Alex's board. I 723 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: don't know if that works in South Carolina where there 724 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: are a lot more African American voters, because he pulls 725 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: very very poorly there, or Nevada with a lot of 726 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: Latino voters. I think, uh, I think Warren is leading 727 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: that state. Warren is really you know, she's sort of 728 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: like that unspoken front runner in the Democratic primary right now. 729 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: I think like Biden nationally still has a lead, but 730 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: you look at you look at Iowa, Warren is very 731 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: strong there. Her campaigns has been very well established in 732 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: Iowa and New Hampshire. It's between her and Sanders. In 733 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: South Carolina, it's probably you know, well, Biden's Biden strong 734 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: in South Carolina, but I don't. Yeah, I just don't 735 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: know where buddhajudges is Lane is. It's like my, my, my, 736 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: Some of my Democratic friends like him a lot, but 737 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: my Democratic friends are like educated white guys, so like 738 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 1: they don't they don't count. What's interesting is from from 739 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: my perspective in terms of Biden, it sounds like risky 740 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: business to just bank that that after Iowa, New Hampshire, 741 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: you'll you'll then then the race starts, not just historically 742 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: at least has been not. If you're waiting until South Carolina, 743 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: you're in trouble. I mean, what he keeps holding onto 744 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: is that poles continue to show that he does best 745 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: head to head against Donald Trump. Um, but you gotta 746 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: win the primary. You gotta win the primary, and and 747 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: other than him. Though, you know, if you're cerned about 748 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump getting reelected, this was a scary week for you, 749 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: between the polls that came out with the New York 750 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: Times showing everyone other than Biden losing to Trump in 751 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: the States that matter. And then that ad that he 752 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: ran during the World Series, which I found to be 753 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: incredibly powerful and compelling, basically said these Democrats, Uh, there's 754 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: all these things that that you care about, and they 755 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: are ignoring them because they're so focused on immigration. Meanwhile, 756 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: or excuse me on impeachment. Meanwhile, I'm getting all these 757 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: things done and it was done really well. And I 758 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: think between the content and the millions and millions of 759 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: dollars they have to put behind that message. Uh, they're 760 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,919 Speaker 1: they're they're performittable. Quickly. What's on your radar? Quickly? What's 761 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: on your radar? It was reporting this week that the 762 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: House Republicans are thinking about putting Jim Jordans on the 763 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: Intelligence Committee. He The backstory here is he has really 764 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: been the leader of Republicans and all these closed door depositions, 765 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: and the way that Democrats if he's not well, he's 766 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: on the oversight committee, and and the way that Democrats 767 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: have set up this process is the intel It. He 768 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 1: is really where the action is at, and I think 769 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: they felt like he was getting sidelined and they want 770 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 1: to put them on their fascinating what's on your radar? 771 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: At two things quick. The DNC, going back to Perez, UH, 772 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: one of the most ineffectual political organizations. And in these 773 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: days Brendan mentioned how much money that Trump campaign has 774 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: in the RNC has the Democratic National Committee right now 775 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: has a net nine thousand dollars in the bank. Like, 776 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: what what are they gonna do? How are they gonna 777 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: how are they going to run around a campaign? And 778 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: my second thing is vaping. This is a story, Yeah, 779 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: this is a this I think if this is a 780 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: little watched, very interesting story. Inside the White House, there's 781 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: this fight between between public health advocates and the Republican 782 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: Party and conservative UH, anti government types and the Republican 783 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: Party over or how strongly vaping should be regulated. Uh, 784 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: and Donald Trump is gonna have to wait in the 785 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: middle of it. Grover Norquist Americans for Tax Reform is 786 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: lobbying against uh, severe regulation of vaporing, against the regulations 787 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: of vapor. He wants, he wants, he wants flavored vaping 788 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: products to remain in the market. Everybody thinks he's he's 789 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: backed by the vaping industry, but he won't say where 790 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: he's coming from. Uh. It's a really interesting little drama 791 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: playing outside the White House. That's an excellent one. And 792 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 1: just as a disclosure, Michael Bloomberg, the founder and majority 793 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: owner of Bloomberg News, parent company of Bloomberg LP, has 794 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: campaign and given money in support of a ban on 795 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: flavored East cigarettes and tobacco. You know What's on my 796 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: you know What's on my radar, Rihanna, Kim Kardashian, t 797 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,720 Speaker 1: I because they've called on Texas governor to halt Rodney 798 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,760 Speaker 1: Reid's execution. The Hill has been reporting on this. Rihanna, 799 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian, Quest Love and t I are joining a 800 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: growing number of celebrities who are calling on Texas Governor 801 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: Greg Abbott to stop the execution of Rodney Reid following 802 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: the emergence of new evidence that his legal team says 803 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: exonerates them. They've been taking to social media on this. 804 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: The host of these different folks and this petition calls 805 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: on Abbott to stop reads execution, which is scheduled for 806 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 1: November twenty regarding the murder of Stacey Stites, a crime Reid, 807 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: who is African American, has been serving a death sentence 808 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: for since he was convicted by an all white jury 809 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 1: in that's according to the Hill News is reporting it's 810 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 1: gonna get interesting. That case has the potential to really 811 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: be a prominent crime case, just in time for the 812 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: political season. I'm Kevin Cirilli. 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