1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Would 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: roll through the Friday edition of the program hoping to 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: send you into the weekend in a little bit better 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: mood than you otherwise would have been, although what I 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: am about to share with you is not going to 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: put you in a better mood. Stock market right now 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: is down around four hundred and fifty points as we 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: are speaking to you, and as a result, the stock 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: market has now gone negative since Joe Biden became since 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: Joe Biden became President of the United States. Oh, if 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: you had bought stock on January twentieth, because you said, 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: my goodness, of twenty twenty one, I am so excited 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: about what this Biden administration is going to mean for America, 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: you would now have lost money, as the stock market 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: is down for Joe Biden's entire tenure. In other words, 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: eighteen months later, basically we are now below where we 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: were when he took over. Not a good spot to 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: be in, Buck, and obviously the Biden administration things can 21 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: change in terms of where stocks go. But we're in 22 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: a bear market, effectively down twenty percent so far this 23 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: year in SMP five hundred. I believe now and you 24 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: are underwater for the entire Biden administration, if you're an investor, 25 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: if you have a four oh one K, if you've 26 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: been saving for retirement, we know everything has been a disaster. 27 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: This is the one thing that had not been underwater. 28 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: Now it is. It's all supposed to be a coincidence, 29 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: like es Clay. That's really what they're left with at 30 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: this point. That and everything the Democrats don't like is racist, 31 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: the insurrection, whatever. They can't actually answer any of these 32 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: core criticisms of how we've gotten to this point. I 33 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: know we've got Josh Josh Holly from Missouri centered from 34 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: Missouri joining later because he really took Jennifer Granholm, the 35 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: Energy Secretary, to task over this pretense that the Biden 36 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: administration did not come into office and decide to just 37 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: bend over and give everything possible to the environmentalist lobby 38 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: that obviously donates big dollars to the Democrats the Bide administration, 39 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they're getting rid the kistone 40 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: xl pipeline pulling, permits for leasing, all these things, and 41 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: they act like this has no effect on the price 42 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: of gas. When you ask them, oh, they want more supply, 43 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: and you try to push them supply from where, Why 44 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: is it better that they'll they'll use the strategic reserve 45 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: because that was already pumped. Of course, right, They'll they'll 46 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: take gas from Venezuela, oil from Venezuela because we're not 47 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: sullying our hands with the CO two emissions that this 48 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: is producing. These people are zealots. I mean, this is 49 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 1: what you're seeing, and this is why when they spend 50 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: one point nine trillion dollars, go back and look on 51 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: what exactly at the beginning of twenty twenty one, it's 52 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: basically two trillion dollars. And the Republicans were like, no, no no, no, 53 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: we don't need to do this. That's crazy, don't do that. 54 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: They did it, and now we have the highest inflation 55 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: we have in forty years. The cause and effect is 56 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: all very clear here. So what you're seeing or Democrats 57 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: in this tailspin of delusion and they're lashing out instead 58 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: of being responsible. Adults will look at what they've done 59 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: up to this point. The stock market. By the way, 60 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: for as we've discussed, this affects everyone's four O one case. 61 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: This affects everybody's ability. You know, right now I'm going 62 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: through the process of a refinance. Let me tell you 63 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: rates have gone up. Borrowing money's going up. If you 64 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: have credit card debt, it's going to get a lot 65 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: rougher to maintain. You know, you're good standing, your good 66 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: credit with the credit with the credit companies, because you 67 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: have to pay a lot more, right, I mean, this 68 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: is this is pain, folks, that's coming now. And inflation 69 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: is the primary pain point, and it is directly attributable 70 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: to decisions that I mean, you look at Biden comes 71 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: into office and the inflation chart starts going poop, It 72 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: just starts going up, and we all know why. And 73 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: so what do they have to say at this point, Clay? 74 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,839 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I don't know how anybody, and good 75 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: I don't know how anybody can vote for a Democrat 76 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: going into this midterm election and not have a little 77 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: bit of a twinge of what the heck am I 78 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: doing well? And this is well, I'm gonna play a 79 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: couple of cuts here because I tease this as we 80 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: finished this is what they're now saying. Okay, it's not 81 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: enough for Roe v. Wade to be overturned, which theoretically 82 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: may happen next month. We'll still see when this opinion 83 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: maybe out. Obviously that was leaked in such a awful 84 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: perspective that has put so many people in danger. Kamala 85 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: Harris has already moved on from Roevie Wade is not 86 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: the end here. This is going to end up in 87 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: restricting contraception, she says, and same sex marriage being disallowed. 88 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: This is the slippery slope that Democrats are trying to 89 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: argue now on a cultural issues front, because everything else 90 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: is a disaster for them. Listen to your Vice president. 91 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: The right to privacy that forms the basis of ROW 92 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: is the same right to privacy that protects the right 93 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: to use contraception and the right to marry the person 94 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: you love, including a person of the same sex. Overturning 95 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: ROW opens the door to restricting those rights. No, it doesn't, okay, 96 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: And there's a big difference, and I'm not sure if 97 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris frankly is smart enough to understand it. But 98 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: rowe involves not only an individual right but also trying 99 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: to balance out what the rights of an unborn are. 100 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: And I will say this, I'm going to be straightforward 101 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: about it. Some people may disagree. I don't think that. 102 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,559 Speaker 1: First of all, in his opinion, Justice Alito specifically says, 103 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: this has nothing to do with contraception. This has nothing 104 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: to do with Griswold versus Connecticut, This has nothing to 105 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: do with same sex marriage. He specifically says that, so 106 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: she's not acknowledging that. Not only does the opinion directly 107 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: address and refute her argument that is actually in there, 108 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: the logic that she's trying to apply does not also 109 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: line up. Because to my knowledge Buck and I could 110 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: be wrong, I don't think there's any state trying to 111 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: take away your rights to use contraception. And I also 112 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: have not heard of any state that's attempting to take 113 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: away same sex marriage rights. And so these are issues. 114 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: It's not enough that Rove Wade be overturned. They have 115 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: to try and terrify everyone that other rights are at stake. Okay, 116 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: So that's one take here that Kamala Harris is trying 117 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: to put out there. And we said this was going 118 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: to happen, by the way, and let's be clear, the numbers. 119 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: The numbers have not shifted really politically ever since this 120 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: came out. It's it stays enough. This is this is 121 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: a huge thing. Democrats have have convinced everybody. Oh, if 122 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: rows overturned, we're gonna we're gonna storm every state capital 123 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: with all our voters and we're gonna take back. Actually no, 124 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: it's actually not true. It's not happening right now. And 125 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: this is why I think it's so interesting. We almost 126 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: have a preview of the politics of this, which is, yeah, 127 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: a bunch of blue haired activists with those rings are 128 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: running around shrieking horrible things on you know, on on 129 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: on the you know, front steps of different Supreme Court 130 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: justices homes. But those aren't people. These are not undecided voters. 131 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: It's not reasonable people. They're left wing activists. Most people, 132 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: if they're if they're paying attention to this particular case, 133 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: if they're watching this play out, understand that it's going 134 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: to go to the states and you're gonna have very 135 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: different laws in different states, and the American people will 136 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: go through it. I mean this. The White House has 137 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: already come out to condemn this Alabama law, which is 138 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: very protective, right, Alabama I believe is already signed. I 139 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: think it's already either to be signed or has been signed. 140 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: And the law is essentially stating that there will be 141 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: no there will be no abortions in the state of 142 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: Alabama with the exceptions of life of the mother, rape 143 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: and incest. And I believe that's what this is the 144 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: state level bill. Now, we mentioned this yesterday from a 145 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: pro life perspective and from I mean, if you're believing Catholic, 146 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: those exceptions actually are are not actually the moral case. 147 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: Those are a political case for the pro life movement, 148 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: meaning they don't believe that even in a case of 149 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: rape or incest, because it's not the baby's fault. Now, 150 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: some people who are very pro life, and this is 151 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: what I was leaning towards yesterday, are willing to make 152 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,599 Speaker 1: that very small concession politically, not ethically, or morally to 153 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: get the rest of abortion outlawed in the state. Now, 154 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,599 Speaker 1: this is like there's a back and forth on this. 155 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: For example, Donald Trump said he was for the exceptions 156 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: life of the mother, rape, and incest. Ted Cruz has 157 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: said he has not for the exceptions. The Republican Party 158 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: platform has said there are no exceptions anyway, Alabama, though, 159 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: is already moving on this. So we shall see how 160 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: this goes in state after state, And I think you're 161 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: going to even see an interesting debate on the right 162 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: about should this be the maximum the maximum position of 163 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: what is ethical? Is the law meaning that every baby 164 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: in a womb is precious and defended as a human being. 165 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: Or for the reasons of getting a law passed without 166 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: losing politically, do you include the exceptions as I believe 167 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: they have in the state of Alabama. Do you want 168 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: to save the most lives you can as fast as 169 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: you can, or do you want to take the moral 170 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: and ethical pure position of a life as a life 171 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: in the womb and it must be protected. So that 172 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: will play out I think on the right. So it's 173 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: not even completely settled on the right how this will go. No, 174 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: And look, I mean, I think there's a real debate 175 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: that's going to happen because all fifty states are going 176 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: to be having this debate. And I would be on 177 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: the Donald Trump side there with the exceptions doesn't mean 178 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: by the way that I think that the people who 179 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: have different opinions, and I think Republicans need to be 180 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: smart about this. Right, This is what I would say 181 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: to everybody out there, be smart about the way that 182 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: you address this issue in a way that Democrats aren't. 183 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: And let me give you an example. Democrats are already 184 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: going to the mat saying nine month abortions are okay. 185 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: No one out there, virtually no one supports nine month abortions. 186 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: That is a dogmatic, ridiculous, awful, in my opinion, murder, 187 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: And I think the vast majority of the American public 188 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: agree with me. But what is going to happen, I 189 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: believe buck is you're going to have a battle of 190 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: the people who are the most fundamentally committed to this. 191 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: On the Democrat side, it's gonna be birth. We're gonna 192 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 1: have abortions all the way up to birth. And I 193 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: think the vast majority of American people are going to 194 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: recoil from that. And then on the Republican side, there 195 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: are going to be some people who say, I don't 196 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: want a single exemption, and I think the American public 197 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: is going to record from that position too. This is 198 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: my personal belief, and so I think to the extent 199 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: that you can be less crazy than Democrats, right, that's 200 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: murder nine months be less crazy than Democrats, that's the 201 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: winning proposition, because we're talking about saying versus insane on 202 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: a daily basis. And I think all the time about 203 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: all these suburban moms that are listening to us right now, Buck, 204 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: and there are a lot of them who are so 205 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: fired up about COVID, who are furious about the way 206 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: that their kids are being taught at schools. By the way, 207 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: I was reason why. I'm sorry, Clay, I didn't mean 208 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: to interrupt you. I just realized I've been saying Alabama. 209 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: I meant Oklahoma. I thought I meant Oklahoma. I'm so 210 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: sorry everybody. If anyone's confused, I just got my states. 211 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: It's the Oklahoma law that was just signed, not Ala. 212 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: I thought it was Oklahoma, but I was like, it wouldn't. 213 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: I know, that's a big correction mistake for mine. I'm sorry, 214 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: I meant Oklahoma. Sou so to me. You want to 215 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: be able to still persuade those people, And I talked 216 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: about this the other day. There are a lot of 217 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: suburban women out there that are being told they are 218 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: being told if Republicans get their way, you're not going 219 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: to be able to get contraception, You're not going to 220 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: be able to use Plan b You're not going to 221 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: be able to have exceptions for rape, incest, for life 222 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: of a mother. That's what is being told to many 223 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: of these swing voters who are particularly likely to be 224 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: women and who are in the suburbs and control not 225 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: only the twenty twenty two election but also the twenty 226 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: twenty four election. So I would just say to everyone 227 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: out there who is dealing in this issue, they want 228 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: the Democrats do to paint you as totally opposed to 229 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: all women, and Matt is going to make some women 230 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: who might otherwise vote Republican a little bit apprehensive, and 231 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: so be intelligent. Don't be like the Democrats saying we're 232 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: perfectly fine with bays in the ninth month of pregnancy 233 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: being pulled out and frankly, in my opinion, murdered. And 234 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: by the way, some of the people who are making 235 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: that argument Kamala Harris and here's our well, we'll save 236 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: this joy Read cut because I think we're going to 237 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: go into break here, but joy Read will play this 238 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: at some point during the course of the program. Not 239 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: going to surprise you. Buck Her position on this, basically 240 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: like her position on every other issue out there, not intelligent, 241 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: utterly indefensible. We'll play it for you in a little bit. 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That's get refunds dot com, No risk, high reward, 260 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: Get refunds dot com. Welcome back to the Clay Travisan 261 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. We got our friend Ben Dominicch joining 262 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: us in just a few minutes. He's the publisher of 263 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: The Federalist, which is a great website, and he's got 264 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: an amazing story about the woke legal left coming after him. 265 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: But victory goes to the righteous in this case, and 266 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: we'll tell you more about He'll tell you more about 267 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: that in a few minutes. And the mean time, Clay 268 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: spoke of Joy Read, whom, I you know, I think 269 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: our top three left wing content providers for this show. 270 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: I think the View is number one. I all due 271 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: respect to the View for being the greatest factory of 272 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: political idiocy of any show that I can think of. 273 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: But I Stelter has been a little quiet recently. He 274 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: used to be pretty great. But joy Read's up there. 275 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: I mean she might, she might be in the in 276 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: the top three, close to it. And here is joy 277 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: Read on. Well you know what, I'm just gonna let 278 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: her say it. This is the thing, Stuart. It isn't 279 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: just saying the election wasn't one. It isn't just denying it, 280 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: it's actually being in a position to reverse it and 281 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: essentially negate the vote in their states. That's what they're 282 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: setting up to do, Stuart. When you have Republicans who 283 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: now essentially view elections as a religious jihad essentially, what 284 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: does one do about that in a democracy? Oh, there's 285 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: only one thing you can do. You have to beat 286 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: these people. They're not going to change their minds. There's 287 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: no you can't meet them halfway. And all of this 288 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: is really again about race. It's about the Republicans inability 289 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: to come up with a message and a platform and 290 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: candidates that will appeal to a changing non white America. 291 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: First of all, I think it's news to Republicans that 292 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: they're on a jihad clay. That would be news to 293 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: the Republican Party. All jihads are religious too, just as 294 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: an aside, And what is she talking about? What is 295 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: he talking about? Well, the thing that I am seeing 296 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: is if you look at the data, minorities are actually 297 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: breaking substantially for the Republican Party. So I mean the 298 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: data we talked about, I think it was the Marist 299 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: poll or knows the MPR poll that came out recently 300 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: actually had Hispanic voters preferring Republican candidates, and we certainly 301 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: know just using the most recent election in twenty twenty, 302 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: Hispanic voters in George, sorry, in Florida and Texas in particular, 303 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly broke for Donald Trump. And this happened buck even 304 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: in New York City, even in LA, places where Trump 305 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: was not particularly competitive obviously as a Republican candidate, a 306 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: lot more Hispanic and minority voters even in New York 307 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: in LA voted for Trump in twenty twenty, then voted 308 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: for him in twenty sixteen. So that Lincoln project imbecile. 309 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: How does the Lincoln project still exist? By the way, Oh, 310 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: because the Left loves to have people who allege to 311 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: be Republicans who are actually just Democrats. That was giving 312 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: them trash Republicans all the time. 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Encourage you to 335 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: go subscribe at Clay Travis at Buck Sexton on Twitter. 336 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: You can also find us on iTunes, Spotify, you name it. 337 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: You can go make sure that you never miss a 338 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: moment of the program. We're joined now by Ben ben Dominic, 339 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: host of his own podcast by the same name. You 340 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: can get his newsletter at the Transom dot com. And Ben, 341 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: I'll start off here. First of all, I think this 342 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: is the first time we've had you on. You also 343 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: do a lot of great work with Fox News, so 344 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: thanks for making the time for us. But I believe 345 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: you have actual breaking news surrounding a ridiculous situation that 346 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: arose when you were at the Federalist, which is another 347 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: fantastic website out there, and what you said and what 348 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: happened kind of fill in our audience because we tease 349 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: that a little bit earlier in the program. It's it's 350 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: fantastic to be on with you, and congratulations on all 351 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: your success. Look as it turns out, today as a 352 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: fortuitous day to be talking to you because a decision 353 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: has come down from the Third Circuit Court of Appeals 354 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: that has been a long time coming. Several years ago 355 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: in response to a you know, a unionization effort at 356 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: a leftist publication known as vox I put out just 357 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: a joke tweet that said, you know, to the you know, 358 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: the folks at the Federalists, I said, hey, if the 359 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: first one of you two who tries to unionize, I'll 360 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: send you back to the salt mines. Now, I thought 361 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: of this as being a fairly mediocre joke, but you know, 362 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: it was just one of those shout shouted out things. 363 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: It turns out that a couple of leftist trolls used 364 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: this tweet to start a federal case against me using 365 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: the National Labor Relations Board, which is the people who 366 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: target folks who are trying to do anti union activities 367 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: or things like that. A whole mess of faithless bureaucrats 368 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: who came after me over the course of several years, 369 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: and thanks to a group called the NCLA, the New 370 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: Civil Liberties Alliance, this group of lawyers basically came to 371 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: me and said, you know, hey, we'd be happy to 372 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: defend you because we believe in free speech, we believe 373 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: in the ability of people to tell a joke, and 374 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: we don't think that random people on the internet should 375 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: be able to make a federal case out of it. 376 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: And today we won. We won unanimously. At the third Circuit. Uh. 377 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: They they dismissed, you know, basically every argument that the 378 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: that the NLRB and the their bureaucrats had put forward. 379 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: And I got official legal information from the Third Circuit 380 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: that my humor is both bizarre and comical officially, and 381 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: no one could possibly interpret it as anything other than 382 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: a joke if they were reasonable. So a big vindication 383 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 1: for people who want to send out joke tweets and uh, 384 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: and a big loss for those who want to weaponize 385 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 1: bureaucrats to go after you for for just expressing your 386 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 1: sense of humor. Hey, Bennett's buck. I just want to 387 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: be clear on this was the position of these NLRB 388 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: folks and these trolls that came after you, that it 389 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: wasn't a joke? I mean, or is it? Was it 390 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: that jokes are not allowed when there's labor at stake? 391 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: It's it's it was a SENTI both of those things, 392 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: both that my my thing was not a joke, that 393 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: a reason old person would construe it as an actual 394 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: threat against unionization. Where are your sal I'm just wondering, well, 395 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: this is the thing. What I know, what I really 396 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: thought is that I'm missing out on a business plan. Now, 397 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: you know, I really needed to start investing in salt 398 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: mining as as a new pursuit. But at the end 399 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: of the day, uh, you know, the fact is that 400 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: they basically said, when when it comes to UH unionization 401 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: or when it comes to unions generally, you can't tell 402 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: any jokes, you can't say these types of things, which 403 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: is of course ridiculous. I mean, and the thing that really, 404 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: you know, made me angry and was the reason that 405 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: I took a stand on this. And we've seen you know, 406 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: I mean other places, you know, at Dave Portnoy for instance, 407 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: over at Barstool had a similar incidence to this, where 408 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: he ultimately settled and and you know, deleted the tweets 409 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And the and the reason is 410 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: that these bureaucrats come after you and they basically say, 411 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: we are just going to bankrupt you. And you know, uh, 412 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: there were seven lawyers on the side of the MLRVU 413 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: all signed this onto this case that you know, really 414 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: could have done damage to me and would have really 415 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,719 Speaker 1: been very costly. And that's the way that they pursue 416 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: these things. It's not even that they want to get 417 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: to a court and have to win an argument there. 418 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: They just want the threat to force you to abide 419 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: by their will, and so that's why I felt it 420 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: was important to stand up. And thankfully now we've been 421 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: vindicated unanimously. And I have to say, I honestly hope 422 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: that they appeal. I hope that they appeal to the 423 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: Supreme Court, just so that I can have that level 424 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: of vindication that yes, you can tell a joke on Twitter, 425 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: even about things like unionization. Ben The stock market has 426 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: now gone negative under Joe Biden. We've got forty year 427 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: high inflation, we got murderate sky skyrocketing all over the country. 428 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: The border is a sieve. As Title forty two is 429 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: about to be repealed. We all knew that Joe Biden 430 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: was probably going to be an ineffectual and poor leader. 431 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: Did you ever think it would get this bad this quickly? 432 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: And what are we in store for over the next 433 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: couple of years with this guy's presidency continuing. This is 434 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: gonna be so much worse than even I thought it 435 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: could be. And it has gotten so much worse than 436 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: I thought it could get so much faster. And I 437 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: think a big part of that has to do with 438 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: the fact Clay that we are dealing with, you know, 439 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: not just the you know, the Obama team, but kind 440 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: of the the C and D level staffers from the 441 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: Obama team, you know, the people who were in these 442 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: lower ranks positions who have now all come back and 443 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: are now in key roles in the government. And what that, 444 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: you know, has ended up with is a situation where 445 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: these people are just out of their depth. Their policies 446 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: are incoherent, they're beholden to the left on their flank. 447 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: Otherwise they'd be considering, you know, all the kind of 448 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: things that we were really promised from this administration by 449 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: a media that you know, lied to get this get 450 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris elected. You know, they said 451 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: that they would represent a return to normalcy, that they 452 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: would take down the temperature of the culture war, that 453 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: they would stabilize things. It turns out that that was 454 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: really just total spin. It was a lie, and instead 455 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: they've ramped up the culture war. They've made things even 456 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: more divisive. They've and they frankly have engaged in incoherence 457 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: when it comes to their policy priorities. Look look at 458 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: just the single issue of the pain at the pump. 459 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: They look at you know, Joe Mansion flabbergasted. You know 460 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: that the Democratic Party seems to have the position officially 461 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: now that it's good to have expensive gas, and that's 462 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: something that you know, Frankly, a lot of us knew 463 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: that the people on the Obama team believed in Obama 464 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: himself even gave indications of that at various points, but 465 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: we never really thought that they would go down the 466 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: road so far that they wouldn't be willing to compromise 467 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: in any respect when people are just paying out the 468 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: nose for or any kind of you know, summer vacation 469 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: travel and things like that. In the coming months, they're 470 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: going to be thinking of the Democratic Party and all 471 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: they've got is leaning into the idea that, oh, well, 472 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: it's it's Republicans who are crazy, it's Republicans who are racist. 473 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: At the same time that the latest Quinnipiac poll shows 474 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: Joe Biden just cratering among Hispanic voters, you know, the 475 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: lowest ratings that we've seen for Democrat presidents ever in 476 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: terms of some of the historical comparisons. Ben Ben, can 477 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: I ask you something before before that you go because 478 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: everything you said, first of all, I've known Ben for 479 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: ten years. He's a various stute. Isn't that amazing? Ben, 480 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: It's been ten years, buddy, a various stute political observer. 481 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: And are Republicans positioning themselves? Is the messaging and just 482 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: your is your general sense that the momentum is building 483 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: here for the red wave wipe out? That it's not 484 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: even just something the Clay and I want, it's necessary 485 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: for the country just sort of restore balance to the 486 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: force of you. Will do you think they're in the 487 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: right place? Are you seeing what you need to see? 488 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: Or do we need to kick in the pants on 489 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: our side. The thing that I think Republicans can't afford 490 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: to do at this juncture is just to assume that 491 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: if there's an R after a name, they're going to win. 492 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: They need to deserve the victory. And I think that 493 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: that requires them to really lay out what they're going 494 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: to do if they get if they get back in power, 495 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: And frankly, people like Mitch McConnell would really like to 496 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: just sit back on their laurels and be fine with 497 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: sort of will be in charge of committees? Now, oh great, Well, 498 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: what are you going to actually do when it comes 499 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,239 Speaker 1: to changing the border policy? Are you willing to go 500 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: to the mattresses and hold onto those purse springs, the 501 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: purse strings, and not let taxpayer dollars flow into various 502 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: programs and things that Joe Biden wants in order to 503 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: get a change in policy. Are you willing to go 504 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: after Alejandro Myorchis and actually impeach him, possibly over the 505 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: things that he's done and the lies that he's told. Look, 506 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: I think that Republicans need to lean into this agenda. 507 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 1: I don't think they can sit back and just let 508 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: it come to them. 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Absolutely no 539 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: intention of the Democrats not book winning the House in November. 540 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: I think that in terms of our the work that 541 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: this president has done, it has been a great president. 542 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: I don't know about poles, but I do know about 543 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: winning the races one district at a time. When we 544 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: won in eighteen, we won forty seats, thirty one in 545 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,719 Speaker 1: Trump districts. He wasn't on the ballot. I said, Now, 546 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: home's the hard part because he's now on the ballot 547 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. So we lost about a third of 548 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: those seats, but the ones who won are practically ironclad. 549 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: We expect them all to come back and to add 550 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: to our numbers. I don't know about the poll numbers, 551 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: but Biden's been a great president. Pelosi says, crazy town 552 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: population one with Nancy Pelosi here, but what else? What 553 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: else is she gonna says, it's not a surprise. Welcome 554 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: back to clay En Buck and look, they know we 555 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: just spoke to our friend Ben Dominic about this. It's 556 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: just a question of how much Republicans can run up 557 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: the scoreboard, right, and it needs to be high though, 558 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: because if we can't run up a scoreboard. Now, given 559 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: all the realities around us, we can never do it. Clay, 560 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: we had alluded to this before on the show. We're 561 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: gonna have Senator Holly, Josh Holly from Missouri joining us 562 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: here at the top of the next stour because one 563 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: area where the Democrats are so vulnerable, they keep pretending 564 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: that the price of gas has nothing to do with 565 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: them the price of energies. No, there's no Democrat policies 566 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: that are making it more expensive for you to heat 567 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: heat your home, cool your home, fill your car with gas. 568 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: Here is an exchange between the Energy Secretary Jen Granholm, 569 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: who I've actually had an exchange within the past, and 570 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: I can tell you she is an imbecile. And here 571 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: is the Senator with her, this member of the Biden cabinet. 572 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: Play clip one, Please triple A is projecting that gas 573 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: prices will hit a national average average of six dollars 574 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: a gallon by the month of August. Is this acceptable 575 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: to you? No, it is not. And you can thank 576 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: the activity of Vladimir Putin for invading Ukraine. With all 577 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: due respect, Madam Secretary, that's utter nonsense, but respect sir, 578 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: it is not administration policies that have affected supply and demand. 579 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: How can you say that when the price of gas 580 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: was up over thirty percent from worried? You answer my questions, 581 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: and it's my time, Madam Secretary, So why don't you 582 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: answer my question? Madam Secretary? Are you telling me under 583 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: oath that these policies had no effect? I'm telling you 584 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: that of the oil and gas industry. I'm not interested 585 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: in their opinion. I mean it happened in the facts. 586 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: So no, they did not ask. That is a remarkable statement. 587 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: I have to say, Madam Secretary, with all due respect, 588 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: your answers are insulting. He's going to join his next 589 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: at the top of the hour? What percentage of the time? Buck? 590 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: When someone says with all due respect, do they actually 591 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: mean with no respect whatsoever? It's like when they say 592 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: no offense, but there's a fense coming. Yeah. If you 593 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: ever get into an argument with your wife and you 594 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: say with all due respect, you might as well just 595 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: leave the house like that. That is not a with 596 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: all due respect, is not a not a good direction. 597 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: Buck Cave has a comfy couch clay. If you ever 598 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: yum and by the way, you were talking, By the way, 599 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: the Holly Audio there is incredible six dollars six dollars 600 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: for a gallon gas. I told this story a couple 601 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Buck my closest gas station right down 602 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: from my house, the one that I stopped at most frequently. 603 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: I went there. I was taking my kid to Little league, 604 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: and I went and stopped there on a Saturday morning, 605 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: and the person directly in front of me, and I 606 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: don't know who they were because they had already left, 607 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: but you know, when you get out and you look 608 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: at what the cost of gas was right in front 609 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: of you, The person directly in front of me had 610 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: bought one gallon of gas four dollars fifty cents ish 611 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: at that time that cost. Think about where we are 612 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: that so many people who have to fill up their 613 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: car to be able to drive to and from work, 614 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: to take their kids to and from school, to be 615 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: able to live their lives. Somebody's probably just hoping to 616 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: get to that next paycheck so that they can fill 617 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: up the rest of their car. But we got people 618 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: out there buying gallons at a time of gas at 619 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: four dollars and fifty cents. And I wish I'd seen 620 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: the person in front of me, because I probably would 621 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: have given him a five or ten bucks. I mean honestly, 622 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 1: just because I feel like I know what that person 623 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: is going through, just based off getting out And look, 624 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people out there who were filling 625 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: up their car and it's taken over one hundred dollars 626 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,479 Speaker 1: and that's real money too. But think about that person 627 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: who's trying to get to work, trying to get their 628 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: kid to school, pulling into a gas station only able 629 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: to afford one gallon of gas right now, and that person, 630 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: those individuals who this is really hurting. Yes, they were 631 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: promised by the Biden administration, by the Biden campaign that 632 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: this was the opposite of what they would face. Joe 633 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: Biden with the same spiel he's been pulling for decades. Oh, 634 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 1: I'm just middle class, Joe. I'm just like you. I'm 635 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: from Scranton. You know, forget about the five million dollars 636 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: beach house in Delaware and you know hundred Biden's eleven 637 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: million dollars for being a crackheader doesn't know anything. I mean, 638 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: just go down the list of stuff that you know 639 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: about Hunter Biden, I mean about Joe Biden. Rather that 640 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: shows that his whole I'm a working man thing. He 641 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: promised the working men and women of America that this 642 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: would be a presidency for them. That's right. For anybody 643 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: that had any questions about this, I would I would 644 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: want to remind because we have the working men and 645 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 1: women of America listening to this show right now. How 646 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: did they feel eighteen months into the Trump presidency? How 647 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: do they? And when I say feel, I mean how 648 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 1: does their wallet feel? How does their bank account look? 649 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: How's that stress at night when they're thinking about can 650 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: I pay the mortgage? Do I have to borrow some 651 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: money from a family member? Compare it to where you 652 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: were eighteen months into Trump, eighteen months into Biden. I 653 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 1: think it tells the tale Clay, no doubt, and that's 654 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: why Biden. I'm looking at this right now. This just 655 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: came down the wire here, buck ap Pole is out. 656 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: Joe Biden knew low. This is according to the Associated Press, 657 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: thirty nine percent approval. How bad is it for Joe Biden? 658 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: His approval with Democrats when it comes to the economy 659 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: was just thirty three percent, and his approval with Democrats overall. 660 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: These are the people who put him into office. Only 661 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: seventy three percent. I mean the Democrats right, Our Republicans 662 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: obviously are all lied, and Joe Biden being a disaster, 663 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: even Democrats are now turning against him in a way. 664 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: I don't remember seeing a democratic approval rating for a 665 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: Democrat president at seventy three percent at any time in 666 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: recent history. Senator Josh Holly's going to join us next. 667 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,959 Speaker 1: You just heard that fiery exchange with Secretary of Energy 668 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: Jennifer Granholm. What does he think about that six dollar 669 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 1: price of gas? And as Biden's overall approval collapse, his 670 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: final hour of the week Next, keep hanging with US 671 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: sleeve Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of