WEBVTT - Countess of the Demimonde

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Noble Blood, A production of iHeartRadio and Grimm

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<v Speaker 1>and Mild from Aaron Manky. Listener discretion advised. In eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety five, the French forensic pathologist, doctor Henri Le Ludique

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<v Speaker 1>published his first work, Notes and Observations on Forensic Medicine

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<v Speaker 1>Offenses against Morality. If that sounds fairly dull, please stay

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<v Speaker 1>with me, listener, because I promise you this episode is anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's the final section of the book.

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<v Speaker 2>That we're interested in today, a section that the doctor

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<v Speaker 2>actually did not write himself, which consists of the entire

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<v Speaker 2>text of a unique autobiography that the doctor had acquired,

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<v Speaker 2>an autobiography entitled Secret Confessions of a Parisian. Legludique claimed

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<v Speaker 2>the autobiography's author was one of his patience from his

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<v Speaker 2>time as a prison doctor, and he had chosen to

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<v Speaker 2>include the autobiography quote for documentary purposes in order to

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<v Speaker 2>enable readers to understand the writer's state of mind end quote.

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<v Speaker 2>Many of leglu Diique's patients when he was a prison

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<v Speaker 2>doctor had been convicted for sexual violence, but this particular

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<v Speaker 2>prisoner had instead been booked as an army deserter and

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<v Speaker 2>petty thief. The autobiography then was included not as a

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<v Speaker 2>study of a devious criminal mind, but to quote the

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<v Speaker 2>doctor to quote trace the origin and evolution of the

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<v Speaker 2>author's sexual inversion. End quote. The autobiography begins quote in

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<v Speaker 2>the beautiful year of eighteen sixty, there lived in Paris

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<v Speaker 2>a woman whom all gilded and gallant Paris knew. This woman,

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<v Speaker 2>who happens to be the humble author herself went by

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<v Speaker 2>many names, but in the byline of the autobiography she

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<v Speaker 2>narrows it down to two, Arthur w and the Countess.

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<v Speaker 2>Throughout this episode, I will refer to our subject mostly

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<v Speaker 2>as the Countess and as Pauline, another name she used,

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<v Speaker 2>as those were the names she used most commonly. Pauline

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<v Speaker 2>presents her life story in the vein of many nineteenth

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<v Speaker 2>century buildings romans. She takes the reader from her early

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<v Speaker 2>experiences as a young boy wishing to wear the dresses

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<v Speaker 2>her mother made, to her courtship with the nobleman who

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<v Speaker 2>introduced her to the life of a female courtesan. We

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<v Speaker 2>then follow her as she becomes Pauline and the Countess,

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<v Speaker 2>working as a performer in Parisian clubs frequented by the

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<v Speaker 2>queer community as she gets drafted into the army and

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately is sentenced to years in a men's prison for

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<v Speaker 2>abandoning her post Confessions of a Parisian was largely inspired

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<v Speaker 2>by Rousseau's Confessions, and it offers the reader a similar

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<v Speaker 2>look into the author's psyche. Pauline's insight is often funny,

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<v Speaker 2>often joyous, and often heartbreaking. Sinner, degenerate, and corrupt are

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<v Speaker 2>often used self descriptors. These ideas echo the common societal

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<v Speaker 2>view of homosexuality and other non traditional sexual and gender

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<v Speaker 2>identities as immoral vices. Her work was ultimately published, after all,

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<v Speaker 2>as a documentation of mental illness. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>Confessions also offers an intimate, vibrant look into the lives

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<v Speaker 2>of members of Paris's queer community during a time where

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<v Speaker 2>they were regarded as little more than case studies by

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<v Speaker 2>social scientists and deviants by larger society. On top of

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<v Speaker 2>being a talented performer and writer, Pauline was a very

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<v Speaker 2>competent illustrator, and her drawings of different members of her

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<v Speaker 2>community were included in Confessions publication. As I mentioned in

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<v Speaker 2>one of our earlier episodes on the nineteenth century writer

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<v Speaker 2>and nobleman Marc de Montefad. Discussing the gender and sexuality

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<v Speaker 2>of historical figures through our modern understanding is a very

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<v Speaker 2>complex task. The Parisian queer community at the time had

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<v Speaker 2>their own language and system of identification, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>how the Countess best On understood and described herself. In

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<v Speaker 2>her words, she was a fil or mignon, both of

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<v Speaker 2>these terms applying to multiple identities. The latter term, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>originated from Henri the Third's fashionable young male favorites, but

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<v Speaker 2>eventually evolved to apply to a broader queer identity. In

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<v Speaker 2>Pauline's writing, we see mignon mean a homosexual man, a

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<v Speaker 2>cross dressing man, and a transgender woman. The Countess seems

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<v Speaker 2>to have identified at times with all of those descriptors.

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<v Speaker 2>She was happiest, however, when society saw her as a woman.

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<v Speaker 2>She proudly reflected, I, who had so desired to be

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<v Speaker 2>a girl, had triumphed over natural law. I'm Danish Schwartz

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<v Speaker 2>and this is noble blood. Uness opens her autobiography in

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<v Speaker 2>the time and place I described earlier, eighteen sixty Paris,

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<v Speaker 2>At the height of her local fame, she was around

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two or twenty three at the time, and had

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<v Speaker 2>begun performing six years earlier. Though the book is in autobiography,

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<v Speaker 2>the prolog is written in third person and introduces us

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<v Speaker 2>to our quote heroine. Speaking of the third person, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a good time to acknowledge that there is very

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<v Speaker 2>little secondary scholarship on the life of the Countess. Our

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<v Speaker 2>main source of information about her life is the woman herself.

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<v Speaker 2>Certain details and events have almost certainly been embellished or

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<v Speaker 2>glossed over. Dates and ages don't always match up, she

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<v Speaker 2>writes at one point, quote time doesn't matter, nor does space.

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<v Speaker 2>In this sect of those who deny their sex, I

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<v Speaker 2>was an example of that. Pauline is, however, a fairly

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<v Speaker 2>balanced narrator, and seeing as she did not know whether

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<v Speaker 2>or not the work would be published in the end,

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<v Speaker 2>there was likely little reason to self censor. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I would argue that reading it, her writing comes across

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<v Speaker 2>as brutally honest. She describes herself in a measured, if

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<v Speaker 2>flamboyant tone. As a young adult, she had quote literary tastes.

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<v Speaker 2>She read a lot, She drew passively, and she sang agreeably.

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<v Speaker 2>Her face lent itself marvelously to makeup like the face

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<v Speaker 2>of all of those whose physiognomy is large, full and

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<v Speaker 2>marked by strong features. While she considered her face beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>to average, she thought her hands ugly and her figure

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<v Speaker 2>too thin. When it came to her character, writing in

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<v Speaker 2>the third person, quote she was good despite her cold air, sensitive,

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<v Speaker 2>despite her reputation of insensitivity, a little romantic, generous to

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<v Speaker 2>a fault. She also described frequent bouts of depression. She

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<v Speaker 2>had quote a melancholic air, a tinge of sadness, which,

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<v Speaker 2>despite her efforts, changed the expression on her face from

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<v Speaker 2>laughter to sorrow in an instant. It appeared as suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>as a lightning bolt in the summer, in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of her gayest hours pun ironically not intended. While the

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<v Speaker 2>Countess's life drastically changed after her childhood, we see her goodness,

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<v Speaker 2>her sensitivity, and sometimes her sadness in her earliest years.

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<v Speaker 2>Pauline says she was born in eighteen thirty nine, though

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<v Speaker 2>that would make her twenty or twenty one in eighteen sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>Her parents were working class and, in her her words,

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<v Speaker 2>decent folks in all senses of the word. Her father

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<v Speaker 2>was a coachman turned steward, raised and educated by his

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<v Speaker 2>first master. Pauline notes interestingly that he belonged to a

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<v Speaker 2>now extinct class of servants who were treated as family

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<v Speaker 2>by those they worked for. She concludes that her father

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<v Speaker 2>quote had only one great flaw, a weak character compounded

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<v Speaker 2>by excessive vanity. I inherited these two traits almost in

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<v Speaker 2>their entirety. Her mother was a seamstress, and according to

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<v Speaker 2>her an angel, the image Pauline holds of her mother,

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<v Speaker 2>even years after her mother's death, is nothing short of seraphic.

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<v Speaker 2>The two were incredibly close. From her earliest years, Pauline

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<v Speaker 2>much preferred to spend time with her mother rather than

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<v Speaker 2>play with other children. While her mother would sow, young

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<v Speaker 2>Pauline would read romance books she found stored away in

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<v Speaker 2>the home. Quote, my eyes would often fill with tears,

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<v Speaker 2>forcing me to stop reading. My dear mother would also cry,

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<v Speaker 2>and we dry our tears with exchanges of kisses. Her

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<v Speaker 2>mother would say, my dear little boy, you have a

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<v Speaker 2>good heart. The countess described the first part of her

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<v Speaker 2>life as one long musical poem. Her mother loved singing,

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<v Speaker 2>and the pair sang together every day. Quote. These golden

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<v Speaker 2>hours developed a powerful taste for singers and concerts In me,

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<v Speaker 2>I specifically mean female singers, because my frivolous nature was

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<v Speaker 2>seduced by the brilliance of their appearance. Her mother often

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<v Speaker 2>took her to shows at cafe concerts, which were popular,

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<v Speaker 2>accessible alternatives to cabarets. Pauline quote drank them all in

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<v Speaker 2>with my ears and my eyes wide open, and dreamed

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<v Speaker 2>of one day being on stage. Many of her mother's

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<v Speaker 2>clients were actresses in the theater, and they liked to

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<v Speaker 2>spoil Pauline with gifts of candies and books. She reflected,

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<v Speaker 2>those experiences didn't leave me indifferent. The sight of these women,

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<v Speaker 2>decorated like holy shrines and perfumed like sachets, filled me

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<v Speaker 2>with all possible joys. She remembers running her fingers over

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<v Speaker 2>the lace of their dresses and playing with their jewels

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<v Speaker 2>while she'd sit in their laps. Her most prominent memory

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<v Speaker 2>is of a blue satin dress with gold spangles. A

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<v Speaker 2>theater owner had sent the dress over to have her

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<v Speaker 2>mother make a copy, and Pauline became fixated by the

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<v Speaker 2>dress on the mail Anakin, She wrote that blue satin

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<v Speaker 2>gown had obsessed me ever since it had been brought in.

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at it, I touched it, I took it

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<v Speaker 2>off the mannequin, and I managed to put it on myself,

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<v Speaker 2>even though it was too big for my little body.

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<v Speaker 2>She knew the tricks of the trade from her mother

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<v Speaker 2>and her clients and pinned the dress at the front

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<v Speaker 2>so that she could walk in it. She then picked

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<v Speaker 2>up her mother's fan and began to show off for

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<v Speaker 2>herself in the mirror. Absorbed in her fantasy, she didn't

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<v Speaker 2>hear the delighted giggles of her mother and her assistants

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<v Speaker 2>having returned to the studio. When her mother asked what

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<v Speaker 2>she was doing all dressed up, Pauline replied, with a

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<v Speaker 2>little embarrassment, Mamma, I'm playing diva. Her mother smiled and

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<v Speaker 2>simply replied, that's nice, but you must take off Madam

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<v Speaker 2>Dee's gown. You might damage it. Pauline's father also simply

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<v Speaker 2>laughed at the anecdote. He did not to enforce masculinity

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<v Speaker 2>on his young son. While Pauline loved women's dresses and

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<v Speaker 2>accessories from a young age, she would burst into tears

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<v Speaker 2>at the sight of boy's shorts, refusing to wear them

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<v Speaker 2>unless they were decorated with embroidery and lace. Pauline believed

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<v Speaker 2>both the innate tendencies of her character, her shyness and sensitivity,

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<v Speaker 2>and the chance of her mother's profession developed in her

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<v Speaker 2>quote love of beauty and style that would later degenerate

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<v Speaker 2>into a frenzy and cause the disorders and missteps that

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<v Speaker 2>mark my life end quote. Despite that perspective, she cherished

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<v Speaker 2>that time, She wrote, my whole childhood was spent in

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<v Speaker 2>an atmosphere of graciousness, delicacy, and lovely faces. And neither

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<v Speaker 2>the passage of time, nor misfortune, nor the cruel disappointments

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<v Speaker 2>of life, nor the long hours of imprisonment can ever

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<v Speaker 2>tarnish that glorious memory. As an adolescent, she was sent

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<v Speaker 2>to a boys boarding school very close to her home.

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<v Speaker 2>Her first sexual experiences happened there, masturbating with older male peers,

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<v Speaker 2>namely one boy called Charles. Pauline recalls she didn't think

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<v Speaker 2>much of the quote evil she had committed, only the

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<v Speaker 2>desire to do it more. She wrote, having indulged in pleasure,

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<v Speaker 2>I had drunk deeply from the source of those predilections

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<v Speaker 2>that make a man prostitute himself. Not by circumstance, no,

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<v Speaker 2>by starting out with a boy four years older than myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I was destined always to play the woman's role, the

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<v Speaker 2>role of the mignon, that distinct, separate type among all

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<v Speaker 2>men with similar passions. It was during her time at

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<v Speaker 2>boarding school that Pauline began to realize she would never

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<v Speaker 2>be like her peers. She wrote, people have often said

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<v Speaker 2>that morally I am not like other men. I can

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<v Speaker 2>only add that I'm different physically as well, and this

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<v Speaker 2>difference has caused me pain. It is the rapidly growing

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<v Speaker 2>ulcer that has engulfed all my happy moments, and the

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<v Speaker 2>poison that has corrupted my life from the time that

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<v Speaker 2>I became a man. This sadness, which is so powerful

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<v Speaker 2>in my life, is the real cause of the enjoyment

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<v Speaker 2>that I had in concealing my sex beneath a woman's

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<v Speaker 2>exterior end quote. It is an evocative early description of

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<v Speaker 2>what we today would recognize as gender dysphoria. The countess

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<v Speaker 2>tells the reader that she still sees Charles sometimes and

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<v Speaker 2>declares that by seducing her, he had quote broken down

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<v Speaker 2>the barrier that my shyness would have raised against the

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<v Speaker 2>desires that the sight of me kindled in the mind

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<v Speaker 2>of the Marquis d X. The original Marquis de X

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<v Speaker 2>was her father's employer, and we do not know his

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<v Speaker 2>identity beyond the mysterious moniker. Marquis de X died when

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<v Speaker 2>Pauline was just an adolescent, and then his son inherited

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<v Speaker 2>his title. This new younger Marquis, whom Pauline refers to

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<v Speaker 2>as M, began to come to her family home, often

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<v Speaker 2>maintaining a friendly relationship with her father. When Pauline was

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<v Speaker 2>a young teen, M began to court her. He was,

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<v Speaker 2>in her words, a tall, handsome man of twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>With her parents' permission, he would take Pauline for in

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<v Speaker 2>his coach, where he would praise her beauty and tell her,

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<v Speaker 2>if you wished, dear, you could be happier than a

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<v Speaker 2>king's son, and you could have all the lovely things

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<v Speaker 2>that you want so much. He laid out his wishes

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<v Speaker 2>plainly for her. He would take care of her generously,

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<v Speaker 2>giving her as much money as she needed each month,

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<v Speaker 2>and she in turn would provide him pleasure. Pauline was,

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<v Speaker 2>according to her, thrilled by the splendors. Everything he had

0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:35.159
<v Speaker 2>told me seemed so special that, with my regret dissolving

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<v Speaker 2>into my desire, I was eager to latch onto this man,

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<v Speaker 2>who said that he loved me like a friend and

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<v Speaker 2>like a lover. The marquis also charmed her into sharing

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<v Speaker 2>her secrets. I'd tell him everything about my wild dreams

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<v Speaker 2>and the frustrations that I felt at not being a woman,

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<v Speaker 2>since I was so ill suited for being a man.

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<v Speaker 2>He replied, you so unlike a man that it would

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<v Speaker 2>be very easy to change you into a charming lady.

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<v Speaker 2>Em told Pauline's parents that he would take her in

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<v Speaker 2>to further her education. That was one word for it,

0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:18.760
<v Speaker 2>she equips to the reader. Pauline's mother was hesitant at first,

0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:23.320
<v Speaker 2>distraught to part with her dear child, but Em persuaded

0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.919
<v Speaker 2>her that Pauline could pursue her talent for art with

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<v Speaker 2>his connections and opportunities. Perhaps, by twenty first century standards,

0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:39.639
<v Speaker 2>we might identify EM's tactics as grooming. Instead of enrolling

0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Pauline in art school, Em took her to meet a courtesan, Paula,

0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:50.920
<v Speaker 2>who styled Pauline into a courtesan herself. Paula acquired her dresses,

0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.960
<v Speaker 2>found her an apartment nearby, and gave her lessons on

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<v Speaker 2>how to walk and talk. The part of a courtesan.

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<v Speaker 2>Paula was very influential to young Pauline. It was she,

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<v Speaker 2>not coincidentally, who offered the name Pauline as Pauline's first

0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:15.520
<v Speaker 2>chosen name. The name was in full Madame Pauline de Florene.

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<v Speaker 2>This woman, who quickly became my friend and confidant, was

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<v Speaker 2>my first true platonic love. She wrote. With her, I

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<v Speaker 2>experienced the charm of exquisite and intimate friendship. After Paula's lessons,

0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:36.800
<v Speaker 2>em took Pauline out in society as a woman for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time. At the popular restaurant in Madrid. He

0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:46.359
<v Speaker 2>introduced her to his noble friends and their own kept women.

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<v Speaker 2>She wrote, it took some nerve, and in spite of

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<v Speaker 2>my confidence, the confidence I had in my luxurious wardrobe,

0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:59.080
<v Speaker 2>I could feel myself blanching under my pancake makeup and

0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:05.080
<v Speaker 2>my heart something to Pauline's delight, everyone was cordial, and

0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.719
<v Speaker 2>she saw the women paying close attention to the details

0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:13.400
<v Speaker 2>of her fashionable outfit. After recounting this day, we get

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most arresting passages of the autobiography. The

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<v Speaker 2>countess reflected years later, there's one thing in my life

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<v Speaker 2>that made me so happy that it alone banished all

0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:32.239
<v Speaker 2>my regrets and my sorrows, at least temporarily. It was

0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:37.040
<v Speaker 2>the realization of my most bizarre dream of seeming to

0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:41.040
<v Speaker 2>be something that I was not. The desire to dress

0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.280
<v Speaker 2>as a woman, to be accepted in the eyes of

0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:48.320
<v Speaker 2>the world as an elegant lady pleased me so much

0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:51.800
<v Speaker 2>that when I was able to do it, it took

0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:57.080
<v Speaker 2>the sharp edge off my regrets. She continued, with a

0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:01.679
<v Speaker 2>great deal of patience and effort, had succeeded in resembling

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<v Speaker 2>the finest being in all creation. I was a woman,

0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:10.080
<v Speaker 2>and when people talked about me, they referred to me

0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:14.399
<v Speaker 2>as the lovely, the charming Pauline. With that I was

0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:18.480
<v Speaker 2>able to forget my feeble body and enjoy hours and

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<v Speaker 2>hours of an enchanting illusion. Her euphoria jumps off the page.

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<v Speaker 2>It's especially remarkable when you remember she was writing this

0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:34.720
<v Speaker 2>in eighteen seventy four. Her relationship with m wasn't always

0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:38.920
<v Speaker 2>as joyous. While she claimed to have accepted his offer

0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:42.959
<v Speaker 2>without a second thought, she was conflicted over the nature

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<v Speaker 2>of their relationship and the nature of her role as

0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:50.920
<v Speaker 2>a mistress. Sweet words from M would placate her doubts.

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<v Speaker 2>She explained, since I had so often envied women when

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<v Speaker 2>I was reading, I was able to forget when listening

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<v Speaker 2>to this seducer that I was nothing more than a

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<v Speaker 2>plaything for a debauched man whose affection for me would

0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:09.959
<v Speaker 2>last only as long as I could please him. The

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<v Speaker 2>source of much of the Countess's shame around her gender

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<v Speaker 2>and sexual identity was it seems inexorably intertwined with the

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<v Speaker 2>grief she felt about her profession and position in the world.

0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:30.480
<v Speaker 2>She declared, every kind of prostitution is a moral degradation,

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<v Speaker 2>a dishonorable situation, so that in order to live happily,

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<v Speaker 2>you must not even recognize it. Because she could not

0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:43.800
<v Speaker 2>live as a woman until she had become a courtesan,

0:22:44.359 --> 0:22:48.200
<v Speaker 2>one became forever associated with the other. In her mind,

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<v Speaker 2>its tragic, and Pauline was certainly not the only queer

0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:58.199
<v Speaker 2>person of the time to feel similarly. Around three years

0:22:58.240 --> 0:23:04.520
<v Speaker 2>into their arrangement grew distant. He eventually ended things, leaving

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<v Speaker 2>her a letter enclosed with some money. Pauline claimed she

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<v Speaker 2>was sixteen or seventeen at the time, and she worried

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<v Speaker 2>about what would happen to her Now she could not

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<v Speaker 2>return to her parents because they would ask too many

0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:23.080
<v Speaker 2>questions she couldn't or didn't want to answer. She also

0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:26.400
<v Speaker 2>admitted she had no desire to return to the quote

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<v Speaker 2>straight and narrow, as she called it, after time in

0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:35.399
<v Speaker 2>the vibrant circles of Parisian society, and so she made

0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:40.520
<v Speaker 2>her debut in the cafe concerts. She used the parting

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:44.520
<v Speaker 2>money the marquie had left her to buy exquisite stage

0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:50.320
<v Speaker 2>costumes and considered herself a quote passible singer. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the time in which she became truly immersed in the

0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Parisian queer community, for they were her fellow performers and

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:04.359
<v Speaker 2>audience members. One group was known as the tribudes, a

0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 2>term allegedly coined from the Greek verb to rub, which

0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:11.960
<v Speaker 2>had long been used to describe women who had sex

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 2>with other women. In Pauline's words, these women came usually

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<v Speaker 2>in pairs and were charming priestesses of that enormous cult

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:26.119
<v Speaker 2>that worshiped at Sappho's altar. They belonged to that strange

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<v Speaker 2>sect that incomprehensible love from which men are excluded. They were,

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<v Speaker 2>as Pauline described them, women who loved women and dressed

0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 2>like men. She analyzed, such a woman so comfortable dressed

0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:46.200
<v Speaker 2>as a man usually has a masculine personality and masculine

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 2>tastes like Mignon. As described earlier, Tribid also applied to

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 2>a broader queer identity. Pauline's illustration of one tribid friend

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 2>B is included in the audio biography. She wrote, the

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 2>despair that B felt at the age of fifteen was

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 2>the same one that I felt. So she adopted men's

0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 2>clothing and looked ravishing in them. Even men were fooled

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:19.119
<v Speaker 2>and women went wild over her. Another part of the

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:23.200
<v Speaker 2>audience was made up of quote mincing, perfumed young men

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 2>fitted out with the finest gloves, makeup, and professionally curled hair,

0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:32.200
<v Speaker 2>a group sometimes known as Fee. An illustration of a

0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:35.919
<v Speaker 2>Fee and good friend of the Countess Le Charles is

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<v Speaker 2>also featured in the book. Within their group, All of

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<v Speaker 2>these terms applied to one born as a man who

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<v Speaker 2>either identified as a cross dressing man or as a woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Specific terms were also seemingly associated with sex work. Pauline

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<v Speaker 2>was also engaging in sex work as a performer, taking

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 2>audience members on as client after the shows. As the

0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:06.720
<v Speaker 2>other Phee performers did. She also found two more quote

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:11.960
<v Speaker 2>protectors following M's departure, but neither lasted as long as

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 2>her original affair. The group she worked with had a

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 2>tradition of quote baptizing new members of their circle. One night,

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 2>drinking champagne, a fellow feed adorned Pauline with a new

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<v Speaker 2>name on behalf of all these young ladies as well

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:33.880
<v Speaker 2>as our dear sisters who are assembled here, I August

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<v Speaker 2>D now baptized Arthur W. The Countess. The Countess noted

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:46.159
<v Speaker 2>how seriously everyone took the ceremony for the Trebad's and

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 2>the Mignons who were there. This was a well known

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 2>and powerful act. For me, I thought that it was

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 2>just a joke. But when D, taking his seat again,

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 2>added my lovely, I dubbed you the Countess, and I

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<v Speaker 2>swear that this name will remove all traces of your

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 2>real one, he was only too accurate. She found genuine

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 2>friendship and community. She commented on the solidarity between Tribades

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 2>and phil writing that Tribades were quote deeply sympathetic toward

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Filin Mignon, since like them they have an unnatural love,

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:26.920
<v Speaker 2>They're indulgent and have a soft spot for the young

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 2>men whom they call their sisters, and that feeling is

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 2>genuinely reciprocated. In her early twenties, now years into her career,

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 2>the newly named Countess rekindled her relationship with her mother.

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Her father had died and she wanted to bring her

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 2>mother as much joy as possible. It was around this

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 2>time as well, that she was required to participate in

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 2>the conscription lottery, drawing the number one hundred and eighty.

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 2>She was in the reserves and eventually deployed. Not only

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.399
<v Speaker 2>was the Countess afraid to join the regiment, being an

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:10.920
<v Speaker 2>army man meant living as a man again. The Countess

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 2>eventually was given leave to visit a fictional uncle and

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 2>she was able to see her beloved Paris again. Returning

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:23.479
<v Speaker 2>to her mother's home, Pauline threw herself into her arms,

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 2>weeping that she could not return to the regiment. Her

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:32.160
<v Speaker 2>plan to desert was simple. Arthur could not be found

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 2>if only the Countess existed. She told her mother that

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 2>she was quite comfortable as a woman, and rather than

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 2>just playing the part when she performed, she would become

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 2>one forever. Her mother, whose quote dearest wish had been

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 2>to have a daughter was pleased with the idea. The

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Countess told her that she would return the next day.

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Transformed when the police were sent to find the lost soldier,

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 2>the count un as his mother told them she hadn't

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 2>seen him. The soldier in question was naturally standing in

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 2>the very same room. The Countess returned to the theater

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 2>and for years continued living life as before. In eighteen sixty,

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 2>after a brief illness, the countess's beloved mother died. Falling

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 2>into a depression, Pauline lost much of the desire and

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 2>energy to dress up and perform. She stole from the

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 2>home of her mother's former employer to pay off her debts,

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 2>and was later caught and identified as the missing soldier.

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 2>She was arrested and sentenced to ten years in prison.

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<v Speaker 2>As she wrote in her autobiography, at the beginning of

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 2>September eighteen sixty one, I arrived chained to another inmate

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 2>at the Central Prison. The countess claimed that less than

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 2>two hours after her arrived, all of the inmates had

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 2>learned her life story naturally. She claims she gained many admirers,

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 2>According to her quote, those who had had unnatural sexual

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 2>urges outside of prison would have more so inside, and

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 2>those who had never experienced those thoughts would adopt them easily.

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 2>So my arrival stirred up many thoughts and unleashed many desires.

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:30.600
<v Speaker 2>She eventually accepted the proposal of a particularly devoted admirer

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 2>she calls R in the autobiography. This man had saved

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 2>up quite a bit in prison and promised the Countess

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 2>everything she might want. His feelings for her became eventually obsessive.

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 2>He could not sleep, he followed her everywhere, and was

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 2>prone to fits of jealousy. Eventually, she says, she became

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 2>fed up and told him she didn't want to see

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 2>him again. By her count the relationship lasted four years

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 2>and five months. She tells the reader, I have sketched

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 2>this story in one page, but I could have spent

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 2>twenty on it because there were so many strange incidents involved.

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 2>R was eventually released and begged the Countess to request

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 2>transferring prisons out of his fear that she would form

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 2>a relationship with another inmate there. She knew the request

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 2>was ridiculous, but felt guilty over how things ended between them,

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 2>and felt she owed him for all of the money

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 2>he had given her she did request a transfer, and

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 2>the request was eventually approved and she was moved to

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 2>another prison. She arrived twelve days later in March of

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 2>eighteen sixty six. At intake, she was led to the baths. There,

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 2>a handsome man tossed her a towel, saying, take this kid.

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 2>This tall, handsome man was the stockroom clerk. His number

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 2>was five ninety eight. He had served as the bugler

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 2>for the first rifleman, and as the Countess wrote, he

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 2>was to become more than a brother to me. His

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 2>name was Gustave Engel. It was love at first sight

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 2>for the Countess, at least. She asked her fellow inmates

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 2>about Gustave, but all they told her was he had

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 2>a reputation and that she was wasting her time. She

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 2>believed they were jealous, as they wanted to court her themselves.

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 2>The Countess lamented her new position in the prisoned dirty

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 2>shoemaking workshop, but luck shined upon her when Angele was

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:43.320
<v Speaker 2>demoted from his position as a stock room clerk to

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 2>fellow shoemaker. She recounted, I decided then and there to

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 2>give him as many extra rations as possible. I had

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 2>almost two hundred and fifty francs saved so I could

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 2>pay for them. At this point all my thoughts of

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 2>frugality and greed were banished. This new love, though shameful,

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:08.120
<v Speaker 2>had cleansed me. She included a note with the rations

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 2>asking for the man's name. In his reply, she learned

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 2>it for the first time, and he told her quote,

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I want to thank you with all my heart, but

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 2>you shouldn't deprive yourself because of me. His reply did

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 2>nothing to deter her. She wrote, From that day on,

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 2>I understood the meaning of the word to love. Oh

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 2>how well. I knew then that I had never been

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 2>in love before, because I had never experienced such overwhelming intoxication,

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 2>such a stirring in my heart. She looked forward to

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 2>her exercise period in the yard because she knew she'd

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 2>see him there, and he might smile at her, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>even talk to her. The man was her light in

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<v Speaker 2>a dark place. She forgot that she was in prison

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<v Speaker 2>when thinking of him. Their relationship lasted over four years.

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<v Speaker 2>Although it's unclear whether they were ever quote exclusive lovers,

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<v Speaker 2>still there was certainly mutual intimacy. She wrote, Our earthly

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<v Speaker 2>happiness is a friendship or a love without limits, where

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<v Speaker 2>shared feelings merged completely, and I had never felt this

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<v Speaker 2>sort of mutual affection before, at least not to the

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<v Speaker 2>extent that I had yearned for it. Eventually, after a

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<v Speaker 2>quarrel over the Countess's jealousy, Engele wrote a letter to

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<v Speaker 2>her saying he never wanted to see her again. Distraught,

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<v Speaker 2>she got herself placed in solitary confinement to get over him. Still,

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<v Speaker 2>the night before Angele was released, the Countess found a

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<v Speaker 2>way to see him. She recalled, He squeezed my hand,

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<v Speaker 2>told me that he'd never forget me. On that day,

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<v Speaker 2>he gave me his badge with the number that was

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<v Speaker 2>used instead of a name, and that each inmate wore

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<v Speaker 2>on his sleeve. This simple number five nine eight spoke

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<v Speaker 2>volumes to me and was prescius to me because my

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<v Speaker 2>friend had touched it every day. Then, the Countess tells

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<v Speaker 2>the reader simply, on July twenty second, eighteen seventy one,

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<v Speaker 2>I was released. Those are the final words of her autobiography.

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<v Speaker 2>It is quite the anti climactic ending to such a

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<v Speaker 2>dramatic life story, but it is the ending we have.

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<v Speaker 2>The countess never published for the writing, and her life

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<v Speaker 2>following her release from prison is undocumented. We can imagine,

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<v Speaker 2>even hope that maybe she returned to her life as

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<v Speaker 2>a performer, her life as a woman, back to her

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<v Speaker 2>beloved community in Paris, but we cannot know for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Despite its abrupt ending, Confessions is a magnificent work. It

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the earliest surviving queer autobiographies in French

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<v Speaker 2>and provides incredible insight into the life of not only

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<v Speaker 2>a large community, but a fascinating individual. She who had

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<v Speaker 2>realized her dream and in her words, had triumphed over

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<v Speaker 2>natural law. That's the story of Pauline or the Countess.

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<v Speaker 2>But keep listening after a brief sponsor break to hear

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more about where you can see her work.

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<v Speaker 2>For today's epilogue, instead of an extra anecdote, I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to point listeners towards the Noble Blood, Instagram and Patreon,

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<v Speaker 2>where we've uploaded the Countess's illustrations included in her autobiography,

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<v Speaker 2>Confessions of a Parisian. While she considered her artistic talent

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<v Speaker 2>only passable, her drawings really are quite good and portray

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<v Speaker 2>the fashions of a subculture. But we're not otherwise well documented.

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<v Speaker 2>There's illustrations of b of La Charles the Fee and

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<v Speaker 2>a person called LaBelle, drawings of her lover, Gustave the Rifleman,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course a self portrait of the Countess at

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<v Speaker 2>her dressing table putting on her makeup. We spent so

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<v Speaker 2>much time in this story telling the Countess's story in

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<v Speaker 2>her own words, that it feels right to show you

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<v Speaker 2>her story by her own hand as well. Noble Blood

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<v Speaker 2>is a production of iHeartRadio and Grim and Mild from

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Mankey. Noble Blood is hosted by me Dana Schwartz.

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<v Speaker 2>Writers for Noble Blood are Hannah Johnston, hannah's Wick, Paul Jeffy,

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<v Speaker 2>Natasha Laski, and me Dana Schwartz. The show is edited

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<v Speaker 2>supervising producer rima il Kaali and executive producers Aaron Manke,

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