1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: online at Advocateslaw dot com. Russ is on the phone 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: today for a first day follow up, and he's getting 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: ghosted by a woman named Leah. So in a few minutes, 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna call her and see if she tell us 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: why she's ghosting him and maybe get him a second date. 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: But first, Russ, how long has it been since you 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: heard from Leah? 9 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 2: Hey, guys, it's been almost two weeks now and I 10 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: haven't heard from her yet. 11 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 3: Oh oh, so are you sitting around waiting to hear 12 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 3: from her? 13 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean I don't usually get like ghosted 14 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 2: like this. You know, it's kind of where I'm calling 15 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: you guys. This just doesn't really happen to me. But 16 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: it's you know, it's just frustrating. You know, I don't 17 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: really know what else to do. 18 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it sucks no matter what. It's frustrating. Well, 19 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: why don't you tell us about the date? 20 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, so let's see. We went to like this 21 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: conference place that was really good. We met up there. 22 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: They had by dim light. She wore like this like 23 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: little black dress. I don't know, she's great. Yeah, it 24 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,279 Speaker 2: was nice, and it was like loud enough to feel fun, 25 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: but still quiet enough to talk, so we were able 26 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: to have conversation and stuff. And we ordered like you know, 27 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 2: a bunch of the small place and shared everything. Everything 28 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: was really good. We had like nice convo banner back 29 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 2: and forth just right away with good chemistry, and you know, 30 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 2: we were laughing the whole time. I mean, it felt 31 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: easy to me, but I don't know. After dinner we started, 32 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: we went to go walk around the neighborhood and we 33 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: ended up sitting on like a low wall outside and 34 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: you know, I could feel a little tension building and stuff. 35 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: And I was smooth though, and I told her that 36 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: I wanted to kiss her, but I wasn't going to 37 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: do that because I'm a gentleman, and yeah, I wanted 38 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: her to know I'm different. And I don't know, she 39 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: said that she had a really good time, and well, how. 40 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: Did she react to that moment when you were like, 41 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: I want to kiss you, but I'm not going to kiss. 42 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: You because I'm a gentleman. 43 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: Well she just yeah, I mean she just kind of 44 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: like smiled and giggled, and I don't know, she seemed 45 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: positive about it. And then like I said, she said 46 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: that she had a really good time, So I don't know. 47 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 2: It feels a good moment, but I don't know if 48 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: I'm overthinking it. You know, I'm sitting here wondering, you know, 49 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: why is that She got back to me, and I thought, 50 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: I got to admit to you guys, like something weird 51 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: kind of did happen on the date. And I mean 52 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 2: it's not that bad, but basically, like I ordered this 53 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: lava cake and when it arrived, I like, I stuck 54 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: my finger in it, and I just why why? I 55 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: did it instinctively because it's something that me and my 56 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 2: ex would do every time that we ordered one, and 57 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 2: I do it, but why? And I don't know. She 58 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: laughed when I told her the story, But I don't know. 59 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 2: Then I kind of realized it was a very weird 60 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: thing to do, especially on first date. 61 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: I would react so some guys taking a finger and 62 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 3: a lot of the cake that I was really excited 63 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 3: to eat. I feel like, move you had to just 64 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 3: had to touch it on. 65 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: Okay, well yourself your self aware. 66 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: Thanks, I mean, I just you know, I thought I 67 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: redeemed myself though by not kept sing her. 68 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: I don't know Russ is on the phone and he's 69 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: getting ghosted by a woman named Leah, and so we're 70 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: about to call her and see if she'll tell us 71 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: why she's ghosting him and maybe get him a second date. 72 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: But before we do that, Russ, why don't you break 73 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: down your date again for us real quick? 74 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, I went on a date with Leah. 75 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: It's been about two weeks since I've heard from her. 76 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: We had a great day, went to a tapas place, 77 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: a lot of chemistry, a lot of conversation. After the date, 78 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: we uh had kind of a romantic moment where we 79 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: were about to kiss, but I didn't go through with it. 80 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: I wanted to be a gentleman. And I don't know. 81 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: The only thing I can really think about that maybe 82 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: I did wrong was we got a cake, a lava 83 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: cake at dinner and I just had a kind of 84 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 2: an immature moment and I stuck my finger in it. 85 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: It's usually a huge why you did it? All right? 86 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: We'll see if they'll see if that move was the 87 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: move that made her ghost you. Are you ready for 88 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: us to call her? 89 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: I am, Well, we'll see what this is all right? 90 00:04:49,800 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: Here we go? H Hello, Hi, man speak to Leah. Please, 91 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: who's calling? 92 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: I guess Hi. 93 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: Leah, how are you? This is a radio show. It's 94 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: called The Jubil Show. 95 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: Hi Leah, I'm Nina. 96 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Victoria and my name is Jebel. 97 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 2: What's up? 98 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 4: Uh? 99 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: Okay? 100 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 5: So wait and is this on the radio right now? 101 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay. You listen to the show before? 102 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I used to listen on my commute, but now 103 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 5: I actually work from home a couple of days a week. 104 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: Oh, my radio, it's changed a little bit. 105 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: You I stream the show and whatever you're on. You 106 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: can be like, hey, Alexa, streamer Juble Show and then 107 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: it'll do that for you. But we do do a 108 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: segment on the show called the First Date follow Up, 109 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: where if you go out on a date with somebody 110 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: and you would up ghosting them, that person can email 111 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: us to ask why you're ghosting them. And we got 112 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: an email about you from someone. 113 00:05:52,480 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Russ, would you mind telling us why you're 114 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 5: ghosting Russ? 115 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: Oh? 116 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 5: Well, look, I mean he's very nice, he's funny, and 117 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 5: he's attractive. But there's just I don't know if there's 118 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 5: something that kind of made me pause. I guess it 119 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 5: was we had like dinner date. Maybe he caught you up, 120 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 5: but it was like it was a topest place with 121 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 5: a lot of food, and he kind of narrated everything 122 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 5: that happened the whole night. 123 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: He narrated everything, well what does that mean? 124 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 5: Like yes, Like it was like every bite, every thought, 125 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 5: every movie he did. It was like he spoke it 126 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 5: out loud, like like the first the first thing comes out, 127 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 5: it's like croquettes and he's like, oh, here we go, 128 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 5: strong presentation. 129 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: Like. 130 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: Everything was he being funny? You're like serious? 131 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. 132 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 5: I mean like at first I thought it was funny 133 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 5: and it was like it was kind of charming, but 134 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 5: it like it wouldn't stop. It was like before every bite, 135 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 5: every bite, he's like, okay, I'm gonna go in with 136 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 5: the fork and he was like you know what, I 137 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 5: I'm c I can notice this and this, and then 138 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 5: he's like I'm going to take another bite, and then 139 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 5: you would take another bite, and it was like it 140 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 5: kept going and I was like, we're not really talking 141 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 5: about anything about ourselves. Like I didn't feel like. 142 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: I got to know him. 143 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 5: I just was kind of knowing his thoughts in real 144 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 5: time like a podcaster. 145 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: Find interesting okay, a live podcast, and it wasn't the 146 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: finger in the lava cake that that made you ghost him? 147 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: Was at the final straw he told us about that. 148 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 5: No, it was honestly, like, I mean, I thought that 149 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 5: it was like bizarre, but he also explained that it 150 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 5: was kind of like like. 151 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 4: A bit he would do with an X, and I was, 152 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 4: I mean, everybody kind of has stuff like that, but 153 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 4: it was, like, I probably that was like the only 154 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 4: thing I learned about him other than just kind of 155 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 4: like his immediate impression of every bite of suit. 156 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well, thank you for telling us why 157 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: you're ghosting him. And Leah Russ is actually on the 158 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: phone and wants to talk to you. 159 00:07:54,800 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: Okay, you can hear me, Yes, you go, because I talked. 160 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 5: Okay, it's not it's not just talking, it's like narrating. 161 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: I was being an enthusiastic What are you talking about? 162 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 5: Sure, I don't know. I mean, it's crazy to be 163 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 5: like I'm going in for another bite right before you 164 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 5: take another bite, like oh, there's like a sweety nuttness first, 165 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 5: and then there's like a smoky finish after taste, and like, come. 166 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: On, that's called sharing an experience, like, what are you saying? 167 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 5: Oh my god, No, that's called like live commentary. It's 168 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 5: like being on TikTok watching a food blogger like you 169 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 5: a little like they're hot takes, they're one to ten. 170 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: So instead of saying something you just disappeared on me. 171 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: It was the first time meeting. 172 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 5: I just didn't want to hurt your feelings. 173 00:08:53,400 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 2: Well you did on the radio too. I feel bad 174 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: for you now, man, Well you don't have to feel 175 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: bad for me. It just is what it is. But 176 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 2: I think she's overreacting over all that. I don't think 177 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: it's so big of a deal. I thought I was 178 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: being funny. No, I mean it is kind of a problem. 179 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 5: I mean it's it's sort of it feels a little 180 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 5: like domineering and kind of like, I don't know, like 181 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 5: a little bit selfish, like at least on a first 182 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 5: day too. I want to talk and get to know somebody. 183 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: So it just seems like an odd precedent. I can 184 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 2: only imagine kissing. 185 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 5: Or making out, and then it's like I get a 186 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 5: play by play of like I'm thinking about putting my 187 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 5: hand on the small of your back, and. 188 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, ross of painting updating Leo. Would you 189 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: like another day with Russ? Will pay for it? 190 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: No, it's okay. Oh wow, Well Russ is gonna get 191 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: off the phone and go finish the rest of his 192 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: day and go get a chocolate cake and stick finger 193 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: in it, and I'll feel better, self soothing,