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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentleman, Welcome to the ten annual Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast Fantasy Extravaganza, presented my Serious Axen. Now here's

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Speaker 1: your host, a man who's won his League of Record

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Speaker 1: once in like twenty years, the old user. Thank you Jeremy,

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Speaker 1: and welcome. Yes, history ten years. We've been doing this, Greg,

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Speaker 1: ten years. That's not true. I mean we've done this

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Speaker 1: podcast for what's seven This is our seventh season. So

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Speaker 1: does ten years sound good? Sounds great? Do you think

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Speaker 1: people will go back and check now the tenth annual

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Extravaganza? That's unpossible. I mean we're I think we

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Speaker 1: could just make up our own truth. That's what the

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Speaker 1: analysis is all about. Absolutely all right, Yes, the old

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Speaker 1: jusie here. Thank you to Jeremy Bergman who did it again.

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Speaker 1: Check out his work on his IMDb PA Kicking and

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Speaker 1: Screaming with Will Ferrell. He played a beefy supporting lead. Alright, yes,

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Speaker 1: I have one title in twenty years. Well that's that's life.

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Speaker 1: What can you do? But I am joined by who's

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Speaker 1: who of fantasy minds for the Fantasy Extravaganza. On my

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Speaker 1: don't need to tell you. They built Rhodal World brick

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Speaker 1: by brick, and they're humble about it. But that's the truth.

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Speaker 1: That website that everyone uses isn't what it is today

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Speaker 1: without Greg Rose a Doll and Chris Westling. What's up boys? Hey, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I forget being humble about it. Now that Silva's out

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Speaker 1: the door, let's just let's just own it. You know,

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Speaker 1: we didn't want to make him feel bad. Greg built it.

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Speaker 1: Watched Speaking of Evan Silva, he's coming up later today,

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Speaker 1: the big Fish via the phone and joining us in studio.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. He is the face of fantasy here

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Speaker 1: at NFL Media. Adam Rank is in the building. What's up, Rank?

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Speaker 1: What has happen? Finally, Adam Rank has come back to

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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast once again, here to join you,

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Speaker 1: and I'm I'm happy to be here. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I do like that Evan Silva is the headliner. Like

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Speaker 1: he's blink two, I'm some forty one. Here's the opening.

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Speaker 1: You're short yourself a little bit there. You know I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna come out. You're bringing the Rank amateurs to the

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Speaker 1: same But when we welcome all of them, the Rank amateurs,

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Speaker 1: the rank and file. They're not. No, I'm here trying

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Speaker 1: I'm coming to pitch. This is where I got because

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Speaker 1: Fantasy pod to you know picture or what is it

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Speaker 1: the post? What does it promote promote? Like Fantasy Big

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Speaker 1: One or the Adam Rank podcast? Like no, but nobody

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Speaker 1: listens to that show. I'm gonna come over there around

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Speaker 1: the NFL where the people are. I see the numbers.

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Speaker 1: I know I know where people. Oh my gosh, it's insane.

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Speaker 1: Like the people like if you run into somebody from Wales,

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Speaker 1: it's nice. It's nice to have someone else who goes

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Speaker 1: third person within two seconds of the show other than dance.

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Speaker 1: I don't even notice when somebody else does it incidence

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Speaker 1: that coal mining has a major culture in Wales. You

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Speaker 1: should also mention Mark Sessler's here. He's actually not in

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Speaker 1: Doing pretty good? Yeah, I I've never actually enjoyed the show.

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Speaker 1: Let's stop there. But from this perspective from behind the glass,

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Speaker 1: as you know that Ricky, it's daunting sitting in his seat,

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Speaker 1: did you say, Ricky, you gotta get Star, gotta start

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Speaker 1: jeez ri Um Mark, yes, you're also here. And as

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Speaker 1: thank you a little bit, all right now, Rank, yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite Adam Rank, bangers is unpopular opinion

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Speaker 1: with Adam Rank. So what we're gonna do here, We're

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Speaker 1: pronounced hands zeus, No, it's us. Yes, So wouldn't you

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Speaker 1: unpopular opinions with Adam Rank Let's do something fantasy style

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Speaker 1: we'll be putting that over at great length. This is

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Speaker 1: like an NFL Media NFL Media creation. It's part of

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Speaker 1: That's my unpopular opinion. And I know he yeah, he

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Speaker 1: operate vicariously trying to tell your friends to buy you

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Speaker 1: a strawberry ice cream because you pick seven football players correctly,

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Speaker 1: I'm over here turning my physical form into electricity. All right,

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Speaker 1: Well he's okay, after the way he was talking to us,

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Speaker 1: I don't really care anymore. But life is good for

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Speaker 1: Mark right now. Adam rank one more popular opinion. I

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Speaker 1: want to do. I want to build on because I

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Speaker 1: wanted to stump for David Montgomery. But that's so here's

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Speaker 1: my end popular opinion. All you're stumping is actually, you know,

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Speaker 1: raised his value so high that he's no longer even

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Speaker 1: a good value. That's been terrible. Well, you know, Matt

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Speaker 1: Nagy's going out and combating that today too, by saying

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Speaker 1: the fantasy hype. It's like, okay, now he's like a

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Speaker 1: third round page. It's like, I'm not that excited about him. No,

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Speaker 1: that's definitely the case. You know who, I really liked that.

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Speaker 1: I think that Duke Johnson is a nice fit. I

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Speaker 1: think that that. I know a lot of people will

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Speaker 1: point to Deshaun Watson like, well, he's never thrown to

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Speaker 1: his running back because he didn't have a he didn't

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Speaker 1: have a never running back like that before. Like it's

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Speaker 1: like I never drove until I had a car, Like

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Speaker 1: I get it, Like that's this is Yeah, he now

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Speaker 1: has a running back. He can throw the ball too.

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Speaker 1: And I think that with Will Fuller, until he comes

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Speaker 1: back and shows that he's completely healed from his knee injury,

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Speaker 1: that Duke Johnson could end up being their number two

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Speaker 1: receiving options. So I love that all days and I'm

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Speaker 1: all about this talent over getting even crazy with the situation.

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Speaker 1: He's a better player than Lamar Miller in the end.

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Speaker 1: I think he'll end up with more touches and more

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Speaker 1: yards and l Miller. We have talked at length on

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Speaker 1: the show about the weakness of the Texans offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Do we worry about that? But that's again what one

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Speaker 1: of the best ways to combat the Texans offensive line

461
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Speaker 1: is number one, you had a bad offensive line. Number two,

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Speaker 1: you had Deshaun Watson holding the ball way too long.

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Speaker 1: If you have a running back that you can get

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Speaker 1: the ball to, you have that safety valve that is

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Speaker 1: going to help improve all fastest of that um Before

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Speaker 1: you go rag, yes, sir, who's some brand names out

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Speaker 1: there who are kind of oddly cheap right now? The

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Speaker 1: guys that in the past have been first round guys,

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Speaker 1: high second round guys, they've been dropping yet they might

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Speaker 1: end up giving you elite production. Who's some guys that

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Speaker 1: jump out for you. You You know one guy I would

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Speaker 1: say that he's not necessarily a brand name, but somebody

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Speaker 1: who was a starter last year that everybody was trying

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Speaker 1: to fade during the off season. But now look, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a number one running back. Chris Carson. That

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Speaker 1: situation in Seattle, they run the ball almost more than

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Speaker 1: anybody love it, and everybody wanted to put Rashant Penny

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Speaker 1: up on a pedestal and say no, they used the

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Speaker 1: first round pick on this guy. Chris Carson has been

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Speaker 1: the best back there. He will be the best running

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Speaker 1: back in if you get him in the third round.

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Speaker 1: That is somebody again, like when we're talking about ignoring

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Speaker 1: some of those early running backs in the first round

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Speaker 1: and you want to wait and go and get your

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Speaker 1: get your running backs in the third, fourth round. You

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Speaker 1: can get Chris Carson, maybe David Montgomery if you're if

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Speaker 1: you're if you're lucky, and another guy too whose value

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Speaker 1: is really starting to rise as Lottavius Murray that as

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Speaker 1: more leaps switch two pp. I just vomited on this.

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Speaker 1: You don't like I vomited to He's got a role though,

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Speaker 1: he's got That's This is the type of thing where

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Speaker 1: I think fantasy drafters always get into trouble is looking

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Speaker 1: at the role in the situations. Murray is not that good.

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Speaker 1: He's being drafted as if he's not Littavias. He's like,

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Speaker 1: he's like a poor man's Lamar Miller. He's just not

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Speaker 1: that good. I mean, he's gonna get goal line carries, right,

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Speaker 1: He's gonna have you know, who's one of the best

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Speaker 1: goal line backs in the NFL. He like that. It's

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Speaker 1: proven he's a better goal line back than Ottavius Merchany, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're not drafting Lottavias Murray in the first round. You're

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Speaker 1: getting him in the seventh or eighth. Flex guy, I'm in.

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Speaker 1: I saw where burning your pick. I like the Chris

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Speaker 1: Carson against that. I've got a running back. He's on

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Speaker 1: my stay away Evan Silverlan for the second time in

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Speaker 1: three years, my answer to this question is DeVante Freeman.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea why this guy is going behind

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Speaker 1: some of the guys he's going behind. Who's going to

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Speaker 1: challenge Freeman for? How dare you besmirch Edo Smith like that? Well,

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Speaker 1: this is where people. People will get too excited or

510
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Speaker 1: get put too much into what was his final fantasy

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Speaker 1: point total the year before. All those jokers that you

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Speaker 1: can take advantage of in your league, they'll overlook a

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Speaker 1: guy like Freeman, a good football player on a great offense.

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Speaker 1: Draft DeVante Freeman. T Y Hilton is one big name

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Speaker 1: that I'm shocked is going late as he is. He's

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Speaker 1: another guy like whatever the odds are, well, we can't

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Speaker 1: do that. You know, he's the guy who could lead

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Speaker 1: the league and receive Hollywood. I'm I'm expecting t Y

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Speaker 1: Hilton to go crazy and then mark ingram in that

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Speaker 1: he's a big name, but I'm kind of surprised that

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Speaker 1: people aren't just like, way too excited about marketing. If

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Speaker 1: Gus Edwards can be a top five running back in

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Speaker 1: yards after Lamar takes over, right, why can't mark Ingram

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Speaker 1: that they have a crowded backfield. But he's the least

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Speaker 1: guy and he's the best player, and it seems like

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Speaker 1: they want him to be tackles last week that marking

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Speaker 1: two of them, the two of them nice look Ingram. Still,

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Speaker 1: I think he's shown that he can play with somebody

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Speaker 1: who is a dynamic playmaker and still go out there

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Speaker 1: and carve a pretty good role. People still sleeping up

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Speaker 1: to Sean Jackson, What oh yeah, I'll throw out all

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Speaker 1: the Rams receivers. By the way you're going, Brendon, Cooks

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Speaker 1: and Woods are going in the same area in the

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Speaker 1: fifth round, Cup coming off the a c L is

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Speaker 1: going a little bit later, But I don't know those guys.

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Speaker 1: You can kind of put it in the bank. I

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Speaker 1: feel like that Cooks and Woods especially both of them

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Speaker 1: really are gonna bed guys and have score touchdowns and

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Speaker 1: catch up all Ton for sure coming back. Really, I

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Speaker 1: feel like he's going way too high. Surgery week six,

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Speaker 1: and if he started off the season on the pup list,

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Speaker 1: I would be with you. I'd be like I would

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Speaker 1: be a little bit more concerned. But I think that

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Speaker 1: what we've seen so far in the preseason, I'm ready

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Speaker 1: to take him in the fifth round, all right, Adam Rank,

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Speaker 1: a former road a world man now breaking out on

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Speaker 1: his own and established the Run dot com. It's Evan Silva.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Around the NFL podcast. Thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for having me. Bat guys, you know Rosenthal Westerman,

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Speaker 1: And Ricky and Zuser. You guys are doing a great

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Speaker 1: job too. You seem to leave someone out. Thank you

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Speaker 1: having all right, Evan, listen, you're the big fish for

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Speaker 1: a reason. I mean, before we get into the fantasy stuff,

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Speaker 1: on there. We're using a lot of a lot more

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Speaker 1: data analysis this year with Pat Thorman, who projects snaps

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Speaker 1: and pace for each NFL team each week, and also

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Speaker 1: that tells you that pinpoints receivers on a weekly basis,

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Speaker 1: which is the most difficult position to project in fantasy. Um,

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Speaker 1: you're trying to make people money in DFS. I'm smelling

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Speaker 1: you're trying to make some money pinpoint receivers that are

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Speaker 1: That's that's uh sucking your blood right now? Very good?

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Speaker 1: All right? Having so one of your pieces many pieces

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Speaker 1: uh un established the run uh the shy away thirty

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Speaker 1: to forge out what that means. It's the guys that

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Speaker 1: and it's suggesting you may do it to uh come

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Speaker 1: draft day. Who's a guy? Where do you want to

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Speaker 1: start with this? Who's a guy that jumps out on

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Speaker 1: you when it comes to shy away from this man?

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Speaker 1: And it's going to expand to the shy away forty

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Speaker 1: number one guy on the list right now is Antonio Brown.

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Speaker 1: Average draft position has stayed inside the top ten receivers

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Speaker 1: despite this strange foot infection thing, the helmet situation that

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Speaker 1: has cost him all but thirty minutes of training camp

637
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: so far. His extended absence from practice has prevented him

638
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: from building any kind of rapport on the field with

639
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: Derek Carr. And you know, he's talking, he's been talking

640
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: about retirement since March. You know, do you want to

641
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: use your second round pick on a guy that has

642
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: spoken about retirement repeatedly for several several months, you know, Uh?

643
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: And then last year on the field, last year he

644
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: had seven year lows and yards per target and yards

645
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: per route run. Uh. He scored a career high fifteen touchdowns,

646
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: so he showed signs of regression on the field, and

647
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: he um also is probably gonna progress towards the mean

648
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: in terms of his touchdown count. And I think he's

649
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: really severely downgrade quarterback play from Ben Roethlisberger to Derek Collin.

650
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Speaker 1: What about what he said on Hard Knocks last night,

651
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: Men lie, women lie. Analytics don't m Well, the analytics

652
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: are not in his favor because I guess it depends

653
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: what you're looking at. Really, I mean, Matt Harmon's you know,

654
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: still has him like in terms of getting open and

655
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: everything is like now he's no longer the number one

656
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: guy every year, but he's the top five guy. So

657
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: and to me watching him last year, I didn't I

658
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: just didn't think he had fallen off much. Maybe it's

659
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: off the elite level, but we already talked about him

660
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 1: with Adam Rank, So Chris and and Silva are AUNTI,

661
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, me Rank and hands as a pro he's

662
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Speaker 1: gonna being I mean, he's not to see who the

663
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: real brick by brick players are. Yeah, well that's a

664
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Speaker 1: great I love tracking. This will be a great battle.

665
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: But like for instance, my draft is on Monday, no

666
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: one cares. But I'll tell you this when Antonio Brown

667
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: is staring at me when I'm late in the second round. Hey,

668
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: enjoy the enjoy the ride, well speaking enjoying the ride.

669
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Speaker 1: And I bet that west Wing would would be to

670
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Speaker 1: speak on this even more eloquently than than I will

671
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: be able to. But you know this is not going

672
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: to be a good Raiders team this year and all likelihood,

673
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: I mean they're win their win total is right around

674
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: six six and a half. Sports books are like begging

675
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: people to bet the over. No one wants to bet

676
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: the over because they know they're gonna be bad. And

677
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: so what how how sold out to play for the

678
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: Raiders weekend and week out? Is Antonio Brown gonna be

679
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: when they're like one in six, you know, entering week eight,

680
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 1: and you have Josh Jacobs, the rookie running back, also

681
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: on your list of players to stay away from. I

682
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: guess it's all tied into that as well, isn't it. Yeah,

683
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: of course it is. And you know this is another

684
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: guy who's ADP has stubbornly stayed inside inside the top

685
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: twenty running backs. The Raiders have already lost their left

686
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: guard Richie Incognito to a two game suspension. Who knows

687
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with Richie Incognito on a week to

688
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: week basis after he becomes eligible again. They lost their

689
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: right guard Gabe Jackson to a torn mc L that's

690
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: gonna cost him at least the first month of the season.

691
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: I think that Antoni, around as the most dynamic player

692
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: in the offense, has already caused a major distraction. And

693
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Speaker 1: I think that Jalen Richard, if you're gonna take a

694
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Speaker 1: running back on the Raiders, you take Jalen Richard really,

695
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: really late. You don't take Josh Jacobs early, because this

696
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: is a team that's gonna be chasing all season. You

697
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: have Melvin Gordon of the Charges. Now there's a new

698
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: report out um today Wednesday that this is something that's

699
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: gonna bleed into the season. I don't see Ezekiel Elliot,

700
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: who obviously is a superior player, but the same situation

701
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 1: when you're worried about where is this guy? So Zeke

702
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: is not a guy that you would worry about and

703
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: you would potentially take them in the first round. But Gordon,

704
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: you'd say, get me away from him. Yeah, Melvin Gordon

705
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: is the guy that I have. I have been running

706
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: back twenty four at this point. Um just dumped them real,

707
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: real low. And you know, it's not only to hold out.

708
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: It's the offensive line situation. It's a bad offensive line

709
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: on the right side. And now we have a major

710
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: question mark at left tackle in Russell o'koon and the

711
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Speaker 1: left guard. They're counting on four Swamp, who has been

712
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: this is his third season. He hasn't even played a

713
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: snack essentially so far. So the offensive line is a concern,

714
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: and we don't know if we're going to see him

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00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: before mid season. He's not. He can't hold out the

716
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: entire year because he needs that ac crude season to

717
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: be eligible for free agency. In UM, but I you know,

718
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: and and he seems really really dug in here. He

719
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 1: was a big proponent of Levy on Bell's hold out

720
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: last year, and I think that he feels a little

721
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 1: bit empowered by that. West you want to be throw

722
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: in one of your own shy away guys. Well, I

723
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I looked at this list and only

724
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: two names gave me pause. Philip Lindsay is one, but

725
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: I'll be willing to chalk that up to better NFL

726
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: player than fantasy player. Uh. The other one is Andrew Luck,

727
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: who I think, regardless of what his health threat is

728
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: right now, he's worth risk. Especially with the way quarterback

729
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: is in fantasy football, you can back yourself up with

730
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: a guy with plenty of upside behind him taking Andrew

731
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: Luck because his upside is through the roof, and I

732
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: think signs out there now that he's doing better. I

733
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: hope that you're right. I hope that you're right, and

734
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: but I do have concerned that the Colts might exercise

735
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: some early season caution on Andrew Luck. I read the

736
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: medical reports every day. You know, I've talked to Dr

737
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: Chow extensively. Luck. The Colts do have a same starter

738
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 1: in Jacoby Bursett, ready to go, So if they want

739
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: to kind of try to take it easy early in

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00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: the season, you know they have an experienced starter that

741
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 1: they can utilize. You have actual one on one combos

742
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Speaker 1: with Chow. M d oh, yeah all the time. Damn

743
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Speaker 1: bro Chow Bragg. What about Peyton Manning who said absolutely

744
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck will be on the field in Yeah, that

745
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: part hope that Peyton Manning is right. I hope he's

746
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: right because I've already drafted Andrew Luck enough that I'm

747
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: invested in. He's around like Cam and Breeze. I don't

748
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: know if his ceiling is that much higher personally to

749
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: me as as those guys ceiling. I think they're they're

750
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 1: similar and there's a little less risk there. I'm gonna

751
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: throw a stay away. How about Damien Williams. Everyone like

752
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: I loved Damian Williams. I love the story, I love

753
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: what he did. His career high in touches or carries

754
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: is fifty. I mean, I I look at Darwin Thompson

755
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: and I think I might rather I would not be

756
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: surprised remotely. I'll throw out my sleeper now too. Darwin

757
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: Thompson leads that team in yards like it. It just doesn't.

758
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: Why would that be surprising? You're talking about a journeyman

759
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: and Damian Williams, who they paid a backup salary, and

760
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: they've talked him up and and maybe he will be

761
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: their starter for eight, nine, ten games. What are the

762
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: odds he's their starter for sixteen games? I think it's

763
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: almost infant testament. And I like Darwin Thompson as a

764
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 1: guy who's going super late, who might end up getting

765
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: six seven, eight starts. What do you think, Evan Silva,

766
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm all three for three have been talking about him.

767
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: You guys have been talking about him. You know we

768
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: were gonna talk about sleepers at the end. Yeah, I

769
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: just well, I figured Damien Williams was the most egregious

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00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: stay away in the whole game to me, So just

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00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: why not combine Chiefs. By the way, everybody, dar Darwin

772
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: Thompson last year ripped it up at ut Utah State

773
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: average almost seven yards per carry over fifteen yards per

774
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: reception as a running back, the average five point one

775
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: yards after contact per carry. The next closest Mountain West

776
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: running back average under four yards after contact per carry.

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00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: He reminds me a lot of Dion Lewis. Lewis Riddick

778
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: actually drew that same comparison recently, and uh, I mean, look,

779
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, go watch his snaps in the preseason. So far,

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00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: Darwin Thompson is ready to play in the big leagues.

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00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: Let's let's take a quick pause here, big Fish to

782
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: check in on the fantasy corner. And Evan, just so

783
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: you know, um, the fantasy corner. Very violent place in

784
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: past year, is very dangerous neighborhood gentrified, it appears, So

785
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna check in with Mark Sessler. Hey, Mark, you there, guys.

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Speaker 1: I am here, and it's not hard for me to

787
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: see why I'm not heavily featured on this episode today.

788
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: But I am in a good place. I've grabbed a

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Speaker 1: stool at the Burly Bear Brewery, a homie tucked in

790
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: the wall gastro pub just blocks away from the Romper

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Speaker 1: where we were this morning. I'm enjoying a nice a

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Speaker 1: B V Russian Imperial stout, and you're not gonna believe

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Speaker 1: what I found at the cute little bookstore up the street.

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Speaker 1: Check this out A type written fantasy football report from

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three. Yes it reads as follows, Ahoy, fantasy

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00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: football enthusiasts, A thrilling new season is upon us, so

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00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: keep it locked on this hand typed Mimeo Graftons snail

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00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: mailed newsletter for all the latest NFL action. A bit

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Speaker 1: of housekeeping for the nineteen seventy three campaign. Please remember,

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Speaker 1: the NFL has approved a new numbering system for jerseys

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00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: going forward. For instance, quarterbacks can only wear numbers one

802
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: through nineteen, while centers and linebackers must pick between fifty

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Speaker 1: and fifty nine. Why does this matter for fantasy? Here's why.

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Speaker 1: There was a rampant speculation that Raiders center Jim Otto

805
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: might sit out the season or even attire because his

806
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: rare double zero jersey was initially no longer allowed in

807
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: the NFL. He cared that much losing Otto would sink

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00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: the fantasy stock of quarterback Kenny Stabler and trigger a

809
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: huge arrow down on Raiders runners Charlie Smith and Marv Hubbard,

810
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: not to mention the age thirty campaign of Fred Bulitnakoff.

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Speaker 1: An update today brings hope, though, as the league is

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00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: informed Auto that he'll be grandfathered in and allowed to

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00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: keep wearing double lows for the nineteen seventy three season.

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00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: Equipment based disaster averted for the Oakland Raiders. Still the

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00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: goal for all two d and fifty of you playing

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00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: fantasy football and this great country of ours should remain

817
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: the same. Do whatever it takes to get your hands

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Speaker 1: on consensus top overall pick O. J. Simpson, the Bills

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00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: star runner with a legitimate shot to cross two thousand

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Speaker 1: yards on Terra Firma comes September, gentlemen, back to you

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Speaker 1: in the studio. Hello, Heavan, Thank you Mark. Enjoy that microbrew.

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00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: And yeah, going back to one of West's old uh

823
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: takes on Fantasy drafted. Good guys draft the guys that

824
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: are easy and root for, So get behind it. O J. Simpson.

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00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: I like I like Marv Harber. That's a good uh.

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00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: I mean he catches the ball out of the backfield.

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Speaker 1: You're not hearing that on other fantasy ships the circle

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Speaker 1: of Fantasy life. Thank you, Mark. All right, still there, Ivan, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know this Sessler guy, I've you know, I met

830
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: him in real life. I love the guy, you know,

831
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: but about fifty seven percent of the time, I have

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00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: no idea what we're talking to. Alright, hevn. Let's get

833
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: to Sleepers. I'm about sevent It comes with time, um, Sleepers.

834
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Speaker 1: Who's somebody that you know you want to impress your

835
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: friends and also you want to steal leagues with guys

836
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: that are taking uh deep in drafts. Who somebody that's

837
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: jumping out to you big fish? Yeah, we talked about

838
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: Darwin Thompson already. I think that Justice Hill is right

839
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: there with him as a guy that has been really,

840
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,479
Speaker 1: really impressive so far this preseason. I think he's gonna

841
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: have an immediate role behind mark Ingram in the NFL's

842
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: run heaviest offense. You go back to Justice hills college career.

843
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: You know, as a true freshman, he played ahead of

844
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: Chris Carson, who right now is the starting running back

845
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: for the Seattle Seahawks, and finished fifth in the NFL

846
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: and rushing last season. Justice Hill runs four four flat

847
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: and he had a forty in vertical and a ten

848
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: foot ten broad jump. One of the most athletic running

849
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: backs in this year's draft class. I think that he

850
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: has a chance to be the Alvin Kamara to mark

851
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: Ingram's mark Ingram on on a very, very run heavy team,

852
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: and he's a better pass catcher. He's at least more

853
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: dynamic in the passing game than is mark Ingram. I

854
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: love that pick. I have him and Darwin Thompson, and

855
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: I even have Tony Pollard in there as guys that

856
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: that I would like to take fires on. Well, why

857
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: don't you throw it out one Chris Wesley. One of

858
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: my favorite wide receiver values later in the draft is

859
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: uh Marquez Valdez Scantling. I feel like the Packers Packers

860
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: told us what they thought about him when they did

861
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: nothing in free agency, they did nothing in the draft

862
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: at wide receiver. Aaron Rodgers loves MVS. He's been talking

863
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: him up all offseason, and I just see this guy,

864
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: as you know, he's going to be the number two there.

865
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he's going NFL dot Com. He's going right

866
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: around the same time as Toronto Geronimo Allison, Courtland, Sutton,

867
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: Golden Tate, Nicole Hardman. Do you think MVS has a

868
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: bigger ceiling, higher ceiling than all those guys? How about you,

869
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: big fish big on Marcus about his scanning thing. You know,

870
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: one of the fantasy analysts that I listened to most

871
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: closely is Matt Waldman of Football Guys recently dropped the

872
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: TiO comparison for Marcus vout Is Scantling. Marcus vout Is

873
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: Scantling is six ft three to ten and runs four

874
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: three seven flat. Last year, among all rookie receivers, no

875
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: other rookie receiver gained more yards on twenty plus yard

876
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: targets down field than Marcus voud Is Scantling. Looks like

877
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: he's locked into that number two roll, big big upside

878
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: this year. Greg give us a sleeper. I'm gonna go

879
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: AUNTI the Stairway list and go Mark Andrews. I second,

880
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: believe in the player, Believe believe in the player, believe

881
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: in the talent, believe in you know you can't. Great

882
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: players end up getting value for you. And he's getting

883
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 1: taken pretty deep, Sterling Shepherd. I'm surprised he's getting taken

884
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: so deep. I would have thought he would have been

885
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: on everyone's undervalue list. People get carried. He's already practicing.

886
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: He's fine, He's gonna catch so many balls in that offense.

887
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: And then there's a time when at some point everyone

888
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: just gives up on a player because they've been injured

889
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: forever and they burned everyone, and at some point they

890
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: actually become a great value. And that's Jordan Reid this year.

891
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: Taking If you're taking him in the fourteenth round, he

892
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: could easily be a top five tight end. Why not?

893
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: I don't want any on my team at all. Last

894
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: no Redskins. Uh what do you think about that? Big Fish?

895
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you know I love Greg, you know

896
00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: my life, but he's no. It's good to have voices

897
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: from Outsideka Silva and in the whole fantasy thing, and

898
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: I was there once. You get so far up your

899
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: own ass by just doing rankings and everything, you can't

900
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: see the forest for the trees. And the key, which

901
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: Silva knows more than anything, is to just be different

902
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: than everyone else. When he's talking about that, that that

903
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: Vegas is begging people to take the raiders and that

904
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: they can't do it, and everyone's take it's like, well, no,

905
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 1: so that doesn't support the reason to go against the raiders.

906
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: The public is an idiot, so like you'll always go

907
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: against and and the Jordan read to me at this point,

908
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: it's kind of an anti public pick. I've got a

909
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: question for our host. I need some advice on a

910
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: late ground sleeper or a midground sleeper. Should Robbie Anderson

911
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: be on my list? It's so funny, West because I

912
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: was just about to bring up to the big Fish.

913
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: I was gonna throw out three jets that I like

914
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: a lot, and since I'm a jets man, I get

915
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: too caught up in it, so I lose the ability

916
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: to be um subjective about it. But I'll tell you this,

917
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: Robby Anderson seems like a guy that's gonna really perform

918
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: well in an Adam Gates offense, especially if Donald takes

919
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: the leap, which I think a lot of people that

920
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: are smart I think will happen. I love me some

921
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: Chris Herndon a good value, especially with people looking, oh

922
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: he's suspended. Uh So I'm just gonna completely skip over

923
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: and that could be a nice late round by. And

924
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: you get to October and all of a sudden you've

925
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: got Chris Herndon who could be a breakout guy, and

926
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: then Jamison crowded their slack guy who I think can

927
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: approach a hundred catches in a in a in a

928
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: beautiful world. So yes, West, I'm all in on Robbie

929
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 1: Anderson making the leap and becoming one thousand yard type receiver.

930
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm curious what the fish thinks about these Jets players,

931
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: you know, I I do like the Jets, and I

932
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: really you have to like what you've seen from them

933
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: so far in the preseason. Um. I think that the

934
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: moves that Joe Douglass has made on the offensive line

935
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: are promising. Before they hired Joe Douglass, they picked in

936
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: They picked up Collecchi assimilate in a in a pick

937
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: swap trade which was real, and they brought back Ryan Khalil,

938
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: who didn't have a great season last year. But I

939
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: think that in terms of like leadership on upfront and

940
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 1: helping Sam Donald, I think he's gonna be a big

941
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: upgrade on you know, Jonathan Harrison. So that was my

942
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: biggest concern for the Jets offense previously. I don't really

943
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: have a concern about their weapons. It's just going to be,

944
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, a matter of who's getting the ball a lot.

945
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: Robby Anderson I think is gonna be up and down.

946
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: He's gonna have spiked weeks, and he's gonna have weeks

947
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: where he has two catches for eighteen yards. Jamison Crowder

948
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: might end up being the most just Levyan Bell if

949
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: he can stay healthy. Uh you know, because the average

950
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: almost four missed games per season over his first five years. Uh.

951
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: He I think he will be a beast and contend

952
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: for the NFL lead and touches and then Quincy and Noon.

953
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 1: I think is an excellent role player. It's just gonna

954
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: be a matter of where is the ball gonna go.

955
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 1: I love Sam Donald at the end of the day

956
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: as like your second quarterback pick. So I'm gonna text

957
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: you every Mark Andrews touched and remind you of it

958
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 1: more than I've reminded you about ranking Ernest Wilford ahead

959
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: of Marvin Harrison back in five settling old scores, because

960
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: which caused you know, a total a fracture in our friendship. Oh.

961
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 1: I just remember one year when there was questions about

962
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: Drew Brees health ranking Bruce Gradkowski, now a PFF analysts

963
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: ahead of I mean, I believe him that. He said

964
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: that Nick Saban didn't even want to sign him. He

965
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: thought the soldier was so banged up. I got you know,

966
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: you got cut, you got cut up at all that

967
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: and any guilt Evan of um. You know, I had

968
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: started back at Rhodor World the Tears of Heaven uh

969
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: column every every year, and now I've noticed you do

970
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: tears of Evan any and that was accusing him of stealing.

971
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: I know. This is like that time that Simmons tweeted

972
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: at Jonah Carry about stealing a column and everybody was like,

973
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: Simmons is showing his ask Greg, I don't know that.

974
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: Can I throw out a couple of alternatives to Mark

975
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: Andrews at at tight end? Yeah, of course there are

976
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: a handful of guys I just love this year, Evan.

977
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: Ingram to me is this year is George Kittle, where

978
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: his talent is so obvious, his difference making talent, and

979
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: what he did in the last month of the season

980
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: last year he was virtually unstoppable. Um. I think people

981
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: are thinking too much about Jared Cook, who has become

982
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl caliber tight end now going to an

983
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: offense that moves the ball. And I know there's a

984
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 1: lot of mouse to feed, but to me, the floor

985
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: is really high there. He's the third mouth too. There's

986
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 1: not that many. And my favorite tight end value Vance

987
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: McDonald who has shown intriguing receiving skills and they have

988
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 1: no one else at tight end there in Pittsburgh. Lock stuff,

989
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, lockstuff. Love love to hear it. I love

990
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: it all. Right, before we let you go, Evan, let's

991
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: just um go over what we've done here. So we

992
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: have major drama on the line regarding Antonio Brown between

993
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: big Fish and Chris Westling. No I was. I was

994
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: on the opposite side. Him and west were in agreement.

995
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: MEU and Rank We're okay. So that's a big one.

996
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: We have to track that and I promise you I

997
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: will Mark Andrews a lot of heat. I'm just I'm

998
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: just having fun night fish. I just miss arguing over

999
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: instant message with Evan Silva uh and Uh. Evan does

1000
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: incredible work. Uh and this new venture I have no

1001
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: doubts will be successful. UH with silver at the reins.

1002
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: Thank you Evan for joining us, and good luck in

1003
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: your four seventy leagues? How many leagues are you? And

1004
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: do you have an actual number of that? Does it

1005
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 1: even work? It'll be around thirty this year? So how

1006
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: does it like? How do you track it? Does it

1007
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: matter if you win or lose? Or is it all

1008
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: just what's happening doesn't get to be like And that's

1009
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: not even counting your dfs, which to me, I'm guessing

1010
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: it takes up more of your anxiety and attention every week.

1011
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: It absolutely does. I mean I'm working. One thing that

1012
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: I'd like to do in recent years is uh like

1013
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: team up with another person, uh two in season long

1014
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: because season long takes a lot of work. I mean,

1015
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: I like to team up with someone, whether it be

1016
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,959
Speaker 1: you know, another fantasy football analysts, whether it be a friend, um,

1017
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: and you know, we can just bounce stuff off each other. Listen.

1018
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me back. Guys. It's always

1019
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: a blast to talk to you, and uh, keep up

1020
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: the great work. You guys are unbelievable. I listen to

1021
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,959
Speaker 1: you guys every single show. All right, love you Evan,

1022
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: Thank you dot com. He's got his own podcast too

1023
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: with Levitan. I mean, they're the two that started this company.

1024
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: Also another Road to World a lung one of the

1025
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: sharpest people I've ever met in the business, and they

1026
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: have a great fantasy podcast too. I just realized what's

1027
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 1: actually going to happen. Silva and Levitan are gonna poach

1028
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: Westling and Rosenthal and then Mark and I will just

1029
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: go back to the news room and become editors. Get

1030
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: and now it just came to me. It just happened.

1031
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 1: All right, Well eleven, good luck to you anyway, Evan

1032
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: Silver the big Fish. All right. Time for one final thought.

1033
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: That was good, by the way, Greg, it was it

1034
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: did feel like we were back in your I am

1035
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: uh a O L I am client circa two thousand

1036
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: five or whatever. I mean, you're just trying to cut

1037
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: I mean, there was no talk of like coney unnecessary

1038
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: words out of run a World blurbs. But otherwise, yeah,

1039
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: it was good. What made a perfect road a world

1040
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: blurb when you were the editor, M it's gonna be

1041
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: a little snarky. Well, first of all, concision you like

1042
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: I really hated the long ones day like three sentences Max,

1043
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: and like it comes you know, you have the factual

1044
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: stuff up top, you come strong with with analyssist in

1045
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: an opinion right off the top in the and then

1046
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: you support it, but you support it thinking what is

1047
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: the most essential thing here? People don't need to be reading,

1048
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: you know C poems. As Marc Sessor would say, I

1049
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: remember one of Greg one of the talking to talking

1050
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: to as I got from Greg as far as what

1051
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: a blurb should be, and it was usually this needs

1052
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: more Westling that, yeah, a little more. It needs more opinion,

1053
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: It needs more like the blog guys. You know the

1054
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: body is just they were just too afraid to uh

1055
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: bring me have a take alright, one final thought before

1056
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: we say goodbye, as um our many listeners prepare for

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Speaker 1: fantasy drafts leave them with a final thought. Greg Rosenthal,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go to the quarterback position because I

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Speaker 1: haven't gotten there. I think Lamar Jackson is incredibly undervalued

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Speaker 1: this year, that he could be a top five fantasy

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Speaker 1: quarterback very easily. I'm with rank. I don't think there

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Speaker 1: should be any rules you have to wait to certain rounds,

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Speaker 1: but especially Lamar Jackson and Jamis Winston to me, seemed

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Speaker 1: like incredible fantasy values that both have top five potential

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Speaker 1: and don't worry about taking him too early. Like I

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Speaker 1: would just take Lamar in the seventh round and be

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Speaker 1: done with it. Be happy. This It is a real bummer.

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Speaker 1: I know you guys are stronger and will as uh

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Speaker 1: the bricklayers of roadal world, but you hate making a

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Speaker 1: draft pick. And then in the little chat client, um,

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Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh that was really it's a horrible feeling.

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Speaker 1: And I know if you're strong and wills, like, just

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Speaker 1: get the guys you want and you'll be fine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's cool. But sometimes you just want everybody to say

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Speaker 1: good job. Many here's what you can say in back.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm NFL Networks Dan hands. This where's your power rankings.

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Speaker 1: It actually works, it works against a little bit. Yes,

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Speaker 1: check out the power rankings every week on NFL dot com. Um,

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Speaker 1: all right, here's my one final thought. Um West, I

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Speaker 1: feel like you especially are you're going to disagree with this,

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Speaker 1: but that's fine. Don't put all of your NFL eggs

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Speaker 1: in one basket. So being a fan of of a team, uh,

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Speaker 1: lover of the team is stressful enough. And part of

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Speaker 1: the appeal to me anyway for fantasy of fantasy sports

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Speaker 1: has always been that I have that second rooting option.

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Speaker 1: When the Jets are in the tank again by Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: it's not all over because I have this other team,

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Speaker 1: this fantasy team. Uh So you can kind of get

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00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: in trouble if you you love your real team so

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Speaker 1: much that you load up. So I was just saying,

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Speaker 1: how I love me some Sam Donald, that love me

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Speaker 1: some Crowder, I love Robby Anderson. Leve Bell gets me excited.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna go too heavy there. And does

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00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: that mean you should avoid taking any players from your

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00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: favorite team? Of course not, but just protect yourself. You

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00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: know there's a chance your team might suck. Don't let

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00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: that doom your fantasy squad too. That comes from a

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00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: fan of an eternally downtrodden franchise. Now, I'm like you,

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Speaker 1: I like to keep it separated a little bit. And

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Speaker 1: when Mark's not here right now, we're gonna throw it

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Speaker 1: back to Mark in a second. But maybe the Browns

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Speaker 1: are the exception to the rule this year because I

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Speaker 1: feel like I would love a team that had Baker,

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Speaker 1: Mayfield and David and Joeku and Odell Beckham and Nick Chubb.

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Speaker 1: But in general, be careful. Thank you for that Sega.

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Speaker 1: Every year there's an offense on love, I fall in

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Speaker 1: love with it. Last year, I believe I said, go

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Speaker 1: get Patrick Mahomes or Andrew Luck because those two offenses,

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Speaker 1: that's who you want. Check the tape. I want as

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Speaker 1: much Odell Beckham Jr. Baker and Mayfield and Nick Chubb

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Speaker 1: as I can get. I just want him on every

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Speaker 1: if I if I was doing the eggs in the basket,

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Speaker 1: I want all of those guys. I want them and

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Speaker 1: I want to ride that Brown's offense. Yeah, Chubb is

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Speaker 1: one of those guys who I thought would be like

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Speaker 1: a value and now just everyone's on him and with

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Speaker 1: you who cares. I still want him there as one

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00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: of your other people worry about Kareem Hunt. I also

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Speaker 1: want Tyler Lockett in every draft. H I also want

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Speaker 1: you know who I want Every year on hard Knocks

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Speaker 1: there's some guy that I fall in love with. I

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Speaker 1: had to run for out of the slot. Give me

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Speaker 1: them seventy three catches, poor guy, all insecure about his

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Speaker 1: hair life. Fifth round, Fifth round, rookie, who's maybe the

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Speaker 1: fifth receiver on that team if you're counting Jacobs and

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Speaker 1: and Darren Wild. If I was going to go through

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Speaker 1: a crazy deep sleep, but I think I'd go Darren

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Speaker 1: Wall are there as as my sleeper. Froze got that

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Speaker 1: Tom bradybody going for him. He does, he does. He

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Speaker 1: looks good making catches and slow motion though. All right,

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Speaker 1: for the last time, we throw it to the fantasy corner.

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Speaker 1: And now, Mark, I've been told by my producer. He

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Speaker 1: is at what once was an affordable housing community that

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Speaker 1: was raised and turned into a live events space right

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Speaker 1: now playing Mumford and Sons, an exclusive concert for American

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Speaker 1: Express Platinum members. Mark you there, I didn't know you

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Speaker 1: were a fan of the Mumforts. You know what, when

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Speaker 1: I'm here, I just sort of slide into new hobbies

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Speaker 1: and I just think the whole the whole community here

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Speaker 1: is really uh there. Think. So it's a new day.

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Speaker 1: It's a new day on the corner and all around

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Speaker 1: the corner. And I'll give you my one big thought

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Speaker 1: I I know you think I'm gonna come with why

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00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: ten reasons why you shouldn't have a fantasy team from

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Speaker 1: the stage? Yeah, can we move? Just can we possibly

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Speaker 1: have the band quiet down just a bit? Those Mumford

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Speaker 1: and sounds really rock. I am inspired by Evan Silva

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Speaker 1: being a part of thirty teams that would quickly result

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Speaker 1: in a destruction of my family structure if I were

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Speaker 1: to try that, But I find it to be inspiring.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to suggest that you do too. How about this.

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Speaker 1: You do number one and you follow the advice of

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Speaker 1: Rank and Greg and Dan and West and Erica and

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Speaker 1: the big Fishy, and you go win that league. You

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Speaker 1: go win that league. But with the second one I

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Speaker 1: would do. What you do is what I would do.

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Speaker 1: The chaos theory. You look at this little a DP

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Speaker 1: thing and you go to number one fifty. You start

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Speaker 1: your draft at one fifty And for the exact reason

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Speaker 1: Dan that you mentioned, the the chat client where everyone's

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Speaker 1: ripping on you and stuff. I go number one right

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Speaker 1: on my ADP list and I looked at number one

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Speaker 1: fifty two is Mitch Robiski number one pick? Now, again,

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Speaker 1: this is not the league I'm trying to win. This

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Speaker 1: is a league where I want to cause people concern

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Speaker 1: about what is happening inside my front office. You're an

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Speaker 1: agent of mayhem. It must be total mayhem. And you

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Speaker 1: want to stick with that ADP. No, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: touching that one fifty plus ADP in the first film

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Speaker 1: rounds of this thing, right, so you can you grab

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Speaker 1: Nicole Hardman in round one or round two. Let's say

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Speaker 1: Tony Pollard, you go Alexander Madison. And what I do

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Speaker 1: at that point is you roll into the season. People

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Speaker 1: think you one of these guys at around week two,

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Speaker 1: either you did a terrible auto draft or you're just

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Speaker 1: gonna vanish in a week two. Step two is the

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Speaker 1: most important thing here. You must be making hundreds of

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Speaker 1: transactions a week, and not to improve the roster, but

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Speaker 1: just constantly churn it. And every time people log into

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Speaker 1: the fantasy home base, they just see that your team

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01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: has done thirty to forty things overnight and they'll come

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Speaker 1: to you. You're gonna get a bunch of bros. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you know what you're doing, and you stick

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Speaker 1: with your system and say you're looking ahead. You've captured

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Speaker 1: this thing. You know where what you're where, you're going

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Speaker 1: with it, you will be Here's can you also tell them, hey, analytics,

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Speaker 1: use analytics. M you're doing analytics and they don't even

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Speaker 1: know what you're doing. This will be the great thing

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Speaker 1: you team. You're taking up Kevin Hogan and then dropping

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Speaker 1: them and pick them up, drop him you're doing. Your

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01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: team will probably go over, but you will be haunting

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Speaker 1: people's minds every single night. Think about this league. Tell

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Speaker 1: him your Sashy Brown. It's process. There you go. All right, Mark,

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Speaker 1: We'll enjoy the eighteen dollar beer. Let's hear it for

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Speaker 1: the lumin ears and uh and i'd say, you know,

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Speaker 1: good luck getting home, but it sounds like you're just

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Speaker 1: gonna get an uber and one of those pickup zones.

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Speaker 1: I think I am home And yeah, all right, say

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Speaker 1: so long to Mark. All right, that's it. That's it

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Speaker 1: for the thirty five annual Fantasy Extravaganza Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Adam Rank, Thanks Evan Silva, Thanks Mark Sessler, Thanks

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Speaker 1: Rick Hollywood for all your work. Thank you. This is

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Speaker 1: Dan Hansons signing off and good luck to everybody in

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Speaker 1: the drafts. Remember don't drink too much. Let the other

1205
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: people get drunk, you stay sharp. Then hands are signing

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Speaker 1: off the Western streets from the mailman, the old Boss.

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Speaker 1: Quiet still, I want Rick Colly woind the glass until Friday.

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Speaker 1: Can I call back and reschedule? Call in an hour?

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Speaker 1: M hm? Did I just hear a callback and reschedule

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Speaker 1: in an hour? Maybe she's talking to someone else whatever

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Speaker 1: other shows. H If you thought this show was like

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01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: low enter priority list last year, wait to listen. She's

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Speaker 1: moving her schedule around in the middle of our show.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get him on the phone. I know

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Speaker 1: we're just now. Mark's like, God, these guys really are

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Speaker 1: at starting to starting to see it from her prospective