1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: Official podcast was presented by win Bet Betting's a team 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: sport bet together at win Bet. Eric Allen here in Scottsdale, 3 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: Arizona with ESPN's Diana Rassini. Diana, a lot of people 4 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: around Robert Salad today at the ASC coach's breakfast. What 5 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: do you make of the Jets search for a veteran quarterback? 6 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: So my thought while I was listening to coach talk 7 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: was it reminded me of Aaron Rodgers a few years 8 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: ago when he stood up at the podium after a 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: game and said, r E lax right, and He's like, 10 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: relax everyone. I felt like Sala had that same energy 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: of look, we can only do so much at this point. 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: I don't have any updates, you know. He pointed to 13 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas a lot on the details of this trade 14 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: getting done. But I think I still believe they feel 15 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: really hopeful and optimistic. This is good to work out. 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: It's just not done yet, and I think they're in 17 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: a really hard position right now to answer these questions 18 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: because everyone wants to know what's the hold of what's 19 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: going on here? When's this getting done? But the fact 20 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: that he used his name, I thought that was a 21 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: good first step, right hearing coach say Aaron Rodgers, but 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: also the fact that he acknowledged we're not hitting the 23 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: paddock button here. What about timetables from everybody's perspective, So 24 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: maybe starting from the Jets and then get to Green Bay. Yeah, 25 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: I you know, look, you you heard Sala say he 26 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: would he would have loved to have Rogers in the 27 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: building three years ago, you know, to coach a mop. 28 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: But in terms of the reality where this is, that 29 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: this is going to be some more time. That's the 30 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: sense I'm getting here at the league meetings that this 31 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: is just this is. You know, both sides are not 32 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: communicating daily. It's it's a little they're a little bit 33 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: of a at a standstill right now. But as much 34 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: as this looks like it's moving in the right direction, 35 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: and I do believe it is, it's just not official 36 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: yet and there still needs to be to be work done, 37 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: and you have to figure you know, the next two days. 38 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: You've got all the important players here to make this happen. 39 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to have a conversation here unless they're 40 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: okay with just being awkward and walking by each other. 41 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: But at some point here they're gonna have to talk, 42 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: and I'm sure there'll be many cameras trying to capture that. 43 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, there's definitely still things that need to be 44 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: discussed for this to finally happen. From your perspective, should 45 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: there be a magic middle point that works for everybody? 46 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: We know Aaron Rodgers made his intentions clear. He wants 47 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: to play next year, wants to play for the Jets. 48 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: Seems like draft pick compensation. Everybody's talking about that. Packers 49 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: wants something and the Jets are willing to give up 50 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: maybe something else. So where do you think this should go? Well? 51 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: I thought it was really interesting saying when rich some 52 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: MENI asked, what's the backup plan here if Aaron Rodgers 53 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: doesn't work out? Which I'm sure Jets fans listening right 54 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: now are screaming, like, but what they have to think 55 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: about another plan? But the reality is you do because 56 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: you never know what these things is, you know what 57 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: could happen. But I think the fact that they're operating 58 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: in the building as if Aaron's going to be there, 59 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: I think he's a really good sign. But just like 60 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: in every negotiation, everyone's gonna have to give a little 61 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: that's just the way it works. No one side ever 62 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: truly gets every single thing they want. And you know 63 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: it's funny. I was actually thinking when Salo was talking 64 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: about a potential backup plan, he didn't reveal anything. Wouldn't 65 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: it be interesting if the Jets actually put it out 66 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: that what their backup plan was, maybe turns the heat 67 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: up on the Packers a little bit here, get a 68 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: little leverage in the situation, because we know they want 69 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: to move them right. They don't want Aaron Rodgers on 70 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: the roster anymore. They've been pretty transparent about that. They've 71 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: shared their thoughts that they're ready to move on with 72 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: Jordan Love. So I'm interested to see how this is 73 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 1: going to go the next few weeks and if if 74 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: the games start getting played a little bit to get 75 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: the ball, you know, over the goal line here. Do 76 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: you think ultimately gets stuck before the twenty twenty three seasons? 77 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: I do. I think this gets someone's gonna gets So 78 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: it was very interesting because Robert's talking, but at the 79 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: same time, apparently everybody's scrambling on their phones and people 80 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: move to the Baltimore table because Lamar Jackson takes to 81 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: social media and says he'd like to be traded. What 82 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: did you make of what you heard from Lamar today? 83 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: And what does his landscape look like? What are the 84 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: Ravens going to do at this point? All right, let's 85 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: take a step back here. Let's paint the picture of 86 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: what this look like. Right. So you have, you know, 87 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: dozens of medium members sitting around a round table, Pepper 88 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: and Coach with questions, and two minutes into the chat, 89 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and tweets that he requested a trade on 90 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: March second, that he no longer wanted to play in Baltimore. Essentially, 91 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: that's what that means, right, if you're requesting a trade, 92 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: and look that we knew trade was on the table, right, 93 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: But by Lamar saying that he put in a request 94 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: for the trade, tells you that that's essentially him saying 95 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: I no longer want to be a Baltimore Raven. So 96 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: that happens and coach has to respond to that. Now, 97 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: the coach obviously knew that Lamar has asked for a trade, 98 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: so he had the information in his mind, and I'm 99 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: sure he's gone through it if he were to get asked, 100 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: because we all know everything gets out eventually, but I 101 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: thought the timing of that was all very suspect, to 102 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: say the least, to tweet that two minutes, you know, 103 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: after the head coach sits down to speak to the 104 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: media and perhaps maybe blindside him a little bit with that. 105 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: But in terms of what this looks like for Lamar, 106 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: I have yet to find a team that is significantly interested. 107 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: Who's you know, an organization that's having really heavy conversations 108 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: with ownership about making this happen. There's been no team. 109 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: There's been teams. I've done some due diligence. I talked 110 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: to the colts today. They're like, look where we have 111 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: to do our homework and everybody. So it wasn't a no, 112 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: but it wasn't a hard guess either. It wasn't like 113 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: this is this is who we think is the future 114 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: for us. So where does that leave us? Now? Well, 115 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: things are pretty chilly between Lamar Jackson and Baltimore Ravens. Now. 116 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: If you remember three months ago, four months ago, things 117 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: are good, they were fine, and it's it really seems 118 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: like this thing has taken a really hard right turn 119 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,119 Speaker 1: for the bad, really and and it makes you wonder, 120 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: you know, if you ask me this yesterday, I would 121 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: have said to you, I think this ends with Lamar 122 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: Jackson going back to Baltimore, everyone makes up and we're 123 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: all good. I don't know anymore. I don't know what 124 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: happens now, because how does he go back to Baltimore 125 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: now that he is at requested a treat And from 126 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: what I can gather after having conversations with a lot 127 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: of different people in the league about this, it's a yes, 128 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: it's about the money. It is, but there's also things 129 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: that the Baltimore Roumans have done within this contract that 130 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: that's upset Lamar and he's not happy about that and 131 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: the treatment of it, and the feeling that the place 132 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: that he thought that has built their entire team around 133 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: isn't willing to just give a little bit more. Going 134 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: back to the negotiation chat, giving a little bit more 135 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: for him, I think is insulting to him. And I 136 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: think I think at this point he's okay wearing any 137 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: helmet that matters as long as he's getting that contract. 138 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: For a Jets fans, following the Rogers situation, there's a 139 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: lot of folks out there who have interests or from 140 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: a van perspective of saying, hey, Lamar Jackson would be 141 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: an interesting in Green and White. If you're Joe Douglas, 142 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: do you make that call just to have cursory conversations 143 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: with Baltimore or at this point, yeah, you're you're You're 144 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: stand with Rodgers. You know, we're gonna have conversations and 145 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: continue conversations with the Packers and see where this leads 146 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: because we have a surefire All of Famer and four 147 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: time NFL MVPs that his intentions is played with us year. 148 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: Nobody wants me to be Josie Douglas. By the way, 149 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: that would be my name. Jets hands would not be 150 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: happy with that. Uh though, I don't get the sense 151 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: that the Jets have in their plans to make a 152 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: big move like that for Lamar Jackson, some of its 153 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: contractual I think. I think right now their hands are 154 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: full with with trying to get Aaron here and having 155 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: that fit and building their team around a player with 156 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: that type of style play. Not taking away from anything 157 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: that Lamar does, but you know, I think a lot 158 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: of injury issues were you know, it was a concern 159 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: for Baltimore. It's a concern for other players for other teams. Excusingly, 160 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, that that that's been the common threat. Yes, 161 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: they garon money has been a problem for every organization, 162 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: but his health comes up all the time, and I 163 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: just don't know if the New York Jets would be 164 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: willing to try to willing to pay that much money 165 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: for someone that they're not sure we'll be able to 166 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: play a full season. You cover the National Football League 167 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: from a national perspective, So, Diana, what do you think 168 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: about where the Jets are at with Salo and Douglas. 169 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: I mean, this is Salo's under in year three. Everybody 170 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: talks about the roster construction, but started seven and four 171 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: last year a quarterback health away from being in the postseason, 172 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: but from where they sit right now, because Robert continues 173 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: to allude to the fact that, hey, we've come a 174 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: long way in two years, and also people are talking 175 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: about us as a destination, and I agree with him. 176 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: I actually think it's a really good point that you're 177 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: sitting here, very very close to getting Aaron Rodgers pick 178 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: the New York Jets, and he's picking the New York 179 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: Jets because of what this roster looks like, which you 180 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: have to give credit to Joe Douglas. You have to 181 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: get credit Robert Sala. Obviously there's a little bit of 182 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: I guess you can call it luck, but it's kind 183 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: of bad luck, right because they've had some good top 184 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: choices in the draft to build this team. But I 185 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: think overall, especially if they're able to get Aaron Rodgers here, 186 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: I mean, how do you not give credit to these 187 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 1: guys for being able to reel it in and get 188 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: it done. And you know, Aaron had an opportunity to 189 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: sit with them and get to know them a little bit. 190 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: And granted, we know Aaron wanted to get out of 191 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: Green Bay, so that helped the Jets cause. But they 192 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: did something right in that meeting. And I can tell 193 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: you even from other quarterbacks they spoke to, like Derek Carr, 194 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: the Jets do a phenomenal job of selling what they're 195 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: about because they believe in it. And I think that 196 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: transparency comes across and I think those are I think 197 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: quarterbacks want to play for teams that way that they 198 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: don't feel like are full of it or selling them 199 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: something that they're they're not truly at the core and 200 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: finding identity. I think the Jets are still doing that. 201 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say they completely know who they are right 202 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: now because they're still putting the pieces together, but they're 203 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: on their way. Which anytime I talk to teams and 204 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: coaches about putting teams a roster together, it's always what 205 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: are we It's as simple as that, what do we 206 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: want to be? And it's hard to figure it out, 207 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: but when you do, you can identify it quick. You 208 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: know what team. When you know what a team is, 209 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: you can build off that and continue to just improve 210 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: and it becomes an easier path versus the teams that 211 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: we've seen across the league over years and years where 212 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: you're like, I don't even know what they're doing, what 213 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: is this? So so yeah, I give them a really 214 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: high grade. Joe Douglas and Robert Sala at this point 215 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: for sure, young pieces and place on both sides of 216 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: the ball. DJ re Soz Gardener infensive rookie year at cornerback. 217 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: They entered free agency wondering maybe what was going to 218 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: happen with Quincy Williams. He stayed off the market, he 219 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: resigns and parent up in the middle with CJ. Walls 220 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: Ley Quinn and Williams had a great year last year 221 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: on the inside. Robert Sala made it clear today that 222 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: Carl Lawson isn't going anywhere. I know a lot of 223 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: people were looking at his financial number and saying, hey, 224 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: potentially maybe the Jets move on there, but he said no, Hey, 225 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: pass rushers don't grow on trees. Corey Davis as well, 226 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: it was another name that popped up that I was 227 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: really surprised that he mentioned is going to be almost roster. 228 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: And look, things can change, things always change, but at 229 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: this point the I don't know how they're going to 230 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: be able to do this. And I mean, let's just 231 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: start with the receiver room. I mean, talk about looking 232 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: completely different now than what we saw the last few seasons. 233 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: And I do think some of their signings have been 234 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: fantastic and you're getting really good guys. You're getting leadership, 235 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: and obviously Lazar brings a lot and his relationship with 236 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator and eventually with Rogers if he does 237 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: wind up in New York. By the way, I can't 238 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: wait to talk about this and just be able to say, 239 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers the New York Jets quarterback, right, it's just 240 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: like the potential quarterback then maybe the guy. So yeah, 241 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: I think he's definitely committed to those guys and keeping 242 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: them here, which you know, more proud of them to 243 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: be able to figure out how this is going to 244 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: work with the salary cap and bringing Aaron Rodgers and 245 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: what they're gonna have to pay him. But like I said, 246 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: this goes back to what I was, you know, giving 247 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: them credit for, which is that figuring out their identity 248 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: and those are pieces they believe are part of that. 249 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: What do you think Rodgers thinks when he looks at 250 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: the offense When you're talking about a guy Breece Hall 251 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: went down Week seven last year, but he looked like 252 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: he was while on his way to have an unbelievable season. 253 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson had a eleven hundred yards receiving despite playing 254 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: with three different starting quarterbacks. Elijah Vera Tucker one of 255 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: the most versatile young offensive lineman in football. When Rodgers 256 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: looks at some of the pieces, or any potential veteran 257 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: Jets quarterback, what do you think they see the Jets 258 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: Adam McCole, Harman Junr Alan Lazard. You know we mentioned 259 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: Wilson before. I think you have to wipe the drool 260 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: right off his face, right you look at what Aaron's 261 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: had a dow in Green Bay and the pieces he's 262 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: had a play with. And you know they always say 263 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: the great quarterbacks make those around them better, and you 264 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: know that is just it's it's why he is a 265 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer if you draw the Famer, because he 266 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: has that ability. So now you're gonna put him on 267 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: a field with guys that have this talent. And you know, 268 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: we could probably sit here and talk for an hour 269 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: about whether or not having young players is good or 270 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: bad because they're impressionable and young, and they don't have 271 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: that much experience, and they're going to have this quarterback 272 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: who has seen it all and knows all when it 273 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: comes to the game, and I think it can work. 274 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: I think that mix is going to be good. Teddy 275 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: Brisky and I were having a conversation about this defensive 276 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: group being young and having Aaron Rodgers come out here, 277 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: and I thought Teddy brought up something so interesting. He said, 278 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: you know, if I'm sala, I'm getting in the faces 279 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: of these guys, these young defensive players going you better 280 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: get all over Aaron Rodgers in practice and and talk 281 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: trash and push it and show him that you guys 282 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: aren't going to get pushed around because it's your team. 283 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: It's not Aaron Rodgers's team. And I was debating with 284 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: him on TV about this. I was like, look, Aaron Rodgers, come, 285 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: New York's Aaron Rodgers team. Let's call it what it is. 286 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: But Teddy's point was, if you want this team to build, 287 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: to be built the right way past just this year, 288 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: it's got to become a Jets team that's about the 289 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: defense and their strength, and then let all the other 290 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: pieces that you just went through a named be sort 291 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: of the cherry the sprinkles on top of it all. 292 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: And I just thought that was really interesting. So now 293 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: I can't wait for camp if this all happens, and 294 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: I want to see if this could be a philosophy 295 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: that this team could have, possibly to try to set 296 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: the tone of yeah, we're young, but we're good and 297 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: we're talented, and we're a group that's going to grow 298 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: together and do some big things in New York. But 299 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: it's our team and you're just an ed piece. So 300 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: we will say, well, we've had a lot of fun 301 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: talking to you, and I get a feeling we're going 302 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: to be seeing a lot of Diana Rassini. It coming 303 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: up in twenty twenty three. As far as the Jets 304 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: are concerned, I can't wait. I love covering the Jets 305 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: in one of my favorite teams, and when they're good, 306 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: there is nothing better than being a resident of New 307 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: Jersey than when the New York Jets are good. It's 308 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: just everyone's just a little happier. What's up with that? Thanks, 309 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: Jets fans. We're in our final push and the clock 310 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: is ticking. Windbet is giving you a golden opportunity to 311 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: win VIP prizes for the twenty twenty three season. 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So when 326 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: you're seeing all this unfold right now with the Jets 327 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: searching for a veteran quarterback and Aaron Rodgers going on 328 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: Pet McAfee show and saying his intention is to play 329 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three and his intentions he'd like to 330 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: play with the New York Jets, what goes through your mind? Well, 331 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: you'd see so many parallels between the situations, not just 332 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: the teams involved, but if you look back at the 333 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: timeline with Farv, it was they wanted a decision prior 334 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: to free agency. Certainly the Packers in this case wanted 335 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: one from Rogers as well. With Farve, he actually retired 336 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: on March sixth, was his press conference, and by the 337 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: end of the month he was already thinking, I'm I 338 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: want to come back. Aaron just kind of skipped over 339 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: that part. But Aaron going on Pat McAfee, is Brett 340 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: Farve going on Greta Van Sustern and did this link 341 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: the interview that aired over two days because it was 342 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: so much stuff and if you knew Brett, I mean, 343 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: he would just talk and talk and talk, and he's 344 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: a fascinating got to cover because you never really knew 345 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: where he was going with an answer, and so he's 346 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: very much like kind of talking it out on national TV. 347 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: And Aaron kind of has done the same thing really 348 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: for you know, years on McAfee, but certainly in that 349 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: interview a couple of weeks ago. So yeah, I mean, 350 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: it's it's very interesting to see the parallels. There are 351 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: probably some key differences as well, which is that you know, 352 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: with Aaron, he's actually older than Brett was at that time. 353 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: He was crazy this year, Brett was thirty seven, I 354 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,239 Speaker 1: think going on thirty eight. And obviously the way that 355 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: the trade is playing out is completely different too, because 356 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: in the case of Farv, it was a true trade 357 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: and it didn't play out till all it required Brett. 358 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 1: I mean, there was all that back and forth through 359 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: the whole spring and the interviews and everything, and Brett 360 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: was saying, I want to come back. The Packers were saying, no, 361 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: we're moving on with Aaron, whereas in this case you 362 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: know fairly clear at this point that the Packers are 363 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: okay moving on to Jordan Loved. Certainly, if Aaron had 364 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: said I'm coming back, I'm all in, I'll be here 365 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: in the off seas, we're gonna we're gonna win one here, 366 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: Packers would have had him back, and they signed him 367 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: to the contract last year with that idea in mind. 368 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: But once it becomes him thinking about the options, you 369 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: know they're okay moving on. So with Brett, they actually 370 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: shopped him, you know, made trade calls. There were two 371 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: teams involved. It was the Bucks and the Jets. Brett 372 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: wanted to go to the Bucks because he wanted to 373 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: face the Packers. I think they played him like week 374 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: four that year. He wanted to go to Tampa. Ted Thompson, 375 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: who wonderful gentleman passed away not that long ago, didn't 376 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: want him in the conference. So he ends up trading 377 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: him to the Jets far what wasn't even all in, 378 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: and so it was it was Woody and other people 379 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: in the front office Mike tanneb at that time, and 380 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: they basically convinced Brett to come there. In this case, 381 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: this is Aaron say I want to go there, I 382 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: intend to play. I intend to play for the Jets. 383 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: Now it's a matter of what does that look like 384 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: in terms of the trade compensation, because it's certainly going 385 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: to be a lot more than what the Packers got 386 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: for far of which was a mid round pick. So 387 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: what are you hearing now as the league meetings get 388 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: underway as far as where we are with compensation? Obviously, 389 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: the Jets can only say so much. They can't tamper 390 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: all right, and Robert Salad said this week that, hey, 391 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: you had a good meeting with Daron, and Joe is 392 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: going to do his due diligence and whatnot. But what 393 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: are you hearing as far as compensation? They're not far apart, 394 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: but they're not close yet, and that could change even 395 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: the next couple of days. Here, Because I random Brian 396 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: goodacoons this morning. I'm sure Joe Douglas is here somewhere. 397 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: I would imagine that there's a conversation that will occur. 398 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: But really, you don't have a pressure point right now. 399 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to the Jets if Aaron Rodgers is 400 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: officially on the team now or in a month or frankly, 401 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: you know, until you get to start a training camp. 402 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: I mean, even if it's in the spring, Aaron knows 403 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: the offense. He's reuniting with Nathaniel Hackett. He knows that 404 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: scheme inside. Now he can bring the players out to 405 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: throw with them in California if he needs to. It's 406 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: all kinds of different things you can do. The pressure 407 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: point for the Packers exists before the draft. It's going 408 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: to be if you want to get picks in this 409 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: year's draft or a pick in this year's draft, and 410 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: then it's probably a future pick as well. It needs 411 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: to happen now. The way the gms historically have looked 412 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: at draft picks is if you push it back a year, 413 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: it's like downgrading it by a round. In other words, 414 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: a second rounder this year is worth a first rounder 415 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: next year. So are you actually going to get more 416 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: value if you go beyond that draft and you essentially 417 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: devalue those types of picks. Do they think that they 418 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: can create a pressure point on the Jets prior to 419 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: the start of training camp or the regular season that hey, 420 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: if we don't get what we're asking for, we're going 421 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: to mess up your whole season by not letting Aaron 422 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: show up. We may not trade them to you till late, 423 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: and then the Jets could say, all right, we're not 424 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: gonna trade for him at all. What are you gonna do? 425 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: You're gonna carry him on the roster. Aaron could show up, 426 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: and that's where if we get past the draft, we 427 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: go to full on crazy town. Then anything can really happen. Here. 428 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: There's certainly an interest for both sides getting this thing 429 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: done before the draft. Do you think it happens before 430 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: the draft? If I'm not making any bet saw on 431 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 1: anything here, I would just say it makes logical sense 432 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: that this gets done, and it probably gets done at 433 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: the last possible moment, which would be draft week. You 434 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: visited the Jets facility last week. What do you think 435 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 1: about the construction of the roster and what Joe Douglas 436 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: has done and where Robert sala is at with this group. 437 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: Sala is gonna be entering a year three. One of 438 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: the things that stood out to me today is that 439 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: he meant it clear when people are asking about the quarterback, 440 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: is that, hey, we've come a long way in two 441 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: years though, right. I mean, I think that that's what 442 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: Robert said is completely fair, which is you would not 443 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: have thought this would be a poiling. Yes, Nathaniel Hackett 444 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 1: is certainly part of it. I thought that it was 445 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: important and very intentional on Aaron's on Aaron's end to 446 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: come out and say what he did on Pat McAfee 447 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: about Nathaniel Hackett because people watched last year and it 448 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: becomes this narrative about Hackett because of Frankly Week one, 449 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: it's a nationally televised game, his first game ever. There's 450 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: a you know, kind of a strange ending. There. There 451 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: were a lot of complicating factors, ones that people don't 452 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: really understand with that, but it also became well, he's 453 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: not a good coach. Daniel Hackett is a really, really 454 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: good football coach, and there's a lot of people who 455 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: have been around him with a high degree of respect 456 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: for him. Alan Lazzard talked about it too his introductory 457 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: press conference. So Aaron never does anything by accident. When 458 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: he says something like that, it's intentional. He wants to say, listen, 459 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: I want everyone in New York to understand this is 460 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: my guy. I love Nathaniel Hackett. But there's yeah, there's 461 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: more to it than that. I mean, if this were 462 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: a bad roster, you still are going to have problems. 463 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 1: You know, Aaron can't assistant GM his way to making 464 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: over the entire team. There's certain guys, certainly that he's 465 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: played within the past, that he would like to be 466 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,719 Speaker 1: a part of the team. But I mean, look at 467 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: the look at last year's draft class alone. I mean 468 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: it looks like you have four absolute studs between Bruce 469 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 1: Hall might have been the rookie of the year if 470 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't get hurt. Gary Wilson was the rookie of 471 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: the year, Sauce Gardner was the rookie of the year, 472 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: and then the defensive Johnson, my head, Jermaine Johnson. You 473 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: know he would be we'd be talking about him too 474 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: if there wasn't so much depth in terms of the 475 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: edge rushing group. So it's a really it's a really 476 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: good roster. There's still certainly some things with the offensive 477 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: line that you need to firm up. There are all 478 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: kinds of injuries there last year that was kind of 479 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: a mess, and I think also I don't think it 480 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: should be overlooked. This maybe new life for Zach Wilson. 481 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 1: I really believe that because he has already has a 482 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: relationship with Aaron, Aaron will take him under his wing. 483 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: He will try to help him and hack at somebody 484 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: who just can kind of infuse positivity. He did it 485 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: for Aaron like Aaron was you know, in a I 486 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: want to say, a dark place, but he was not 487 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: enjoying football the same way until Matt and Nathaniel and 488 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: that staff got there. And you know, and Rodgers has 489 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: talked about that. What you know, whatever Zach Wilson is 490 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: feeling right now, and I think that everybody would agree. 491 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: Whatever you think about the way he's played, this is 492 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: not the guy that you thought you were getting a 493 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: number two. If if Hackett can bring that type of 494 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: energy back to Zach Wilson, they'll be run and scout team. 495 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: You know, he won't be with the starters. There's no 496 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: pressure on him. I don't think that there's any urge, 497 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: certainly to give up on the guy. You might be 498 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: able to kind of, you know, revive at least the 499 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: hope that this guy can develop and maximize his potentially 500 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers back to back MVPs under the guidance of 501 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett and La Fleur in Green Bay twenty twenty 502 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: and twenty twenty one. What do you make of what 503 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: is out there still as far as the Jets and 504 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: names being connected free agency. Robert was asked about Ben Jones, 505 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: a former Titans center. Today, Odell Beckham, we hear a 506 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: lot of talk about him as well. One thing that 507 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: really caught my ears is when he was asked about 508 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: Zeke Ellie and he said, I love my running back room. 509 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. Well, I mean you've got 510 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: depth in that room between Michael Carter, Bam Knight, you know, 511 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: you have guys. I think there's a place for Zeke 512 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: Elliott somewhere in the league. Everybody's been around Zeke says, 513 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: you know, he's a really hard worker, like he does bring. 514 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: I thought to Mike McCarthy this morning. He was saying, 515 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: he has this bright light inside him that just kind 516 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: of it has an impact on your team. But yet, 517 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: do they need another running back? Probably not. I do 518 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: think that there's a possibility of adding another receiver. I 519 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: do think that some of those guys who are Rogers, 520 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: guys who are unsigned right now, like Randall Cobb, Marcedes Lewis, 521 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 1: those are certainly possibilities somewhere down the line. But you 522 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: also have to be careful balancing that even bringing in 523 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: a guy like O'Dell, which I certainly would not rule 524 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: out even after they signed me Coele Hartman. But it's 525 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: you got ar Wilson, Who's he's gonna want to be 526 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: a high volume player. I know they love Garrett. I've 527 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: got to know him a little bit. You know, he's 528 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: just he's a good dude. But he's competitive. Now, I 529 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: mean you've seen him, you know, like on the sideline, 530 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: like he's he's gonna feel it. So you know, if 531 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: you've got that player who you want to get one 532 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: hundred plus targets too. Now if you had Nodell, now 533 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: you've got these other guys, you got Lazard, you just 534 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: paid a bunch of money. Now if you bring a 535 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: cobb in other words, you have to be conscientious of that. 536 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: You want to give yourself options, which again, Joe's You've 537 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: done a great job building up the roster, not just 538 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: the front line guys. But the depth is way better 539 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: than it was a couple of years ago. That's gonna 540 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: be a balancing act. But absolutely, could they sign another receiver. 541 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: I believe that that is a possibility. That wide receiver 542 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: room has changed. I don't want to say it's dramatic, 543 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: but you mentioned Wilson. Of course he's the headliner and 544 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: he's gonna be the headliner here for a number of 545 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: years to come. But enter Hardman, a guy who is 546 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: a sub four four burner. He could score any which way. 547 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: And then Lazard brings some size on the outside six five, 548 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty seven pounds, and Sala made sure 549 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: to throw Corey Davis out there a number of times. 550 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: I know a lot of Jets fans to talk about 551 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: him in past tense, but Sala made it clear today right. 552 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: And I think that if there were the right trade offer, 553 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: that would be potentially something that they're open to. Teams 554 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: have tried to trade for Corey Davis in the past. 555 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: He's got no guaranteed money left on his deal, but 556 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: you don't have to do anything with him right now. 557 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: I think that with Lizard, one of the things that 558 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: gets overlooked with him is the blocking. It is the 559 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: physical presence. You know, he was the guy in Green 560 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: Bay who you need somebody to go dig out a safety. 561 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: That was Alan Lazard, and yeah he'd catch the ball too, 562 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: but he's kind of that that dude who's going to 563 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: do a lot of that stuff, which is why it 564 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: was important Aaron Rodgers or not to have him in 565 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: Hackett's offense because you need that role to be filled. 566 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: So with me Cole, you know, this is one of 567 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: those by low types of situations where he's coming off 568 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: that core muscle injury. He's not healthy yet. You know 569 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: they're hoping that he's going to progress here in the 570 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: coming months, and we ride a role for training camp. 571 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: But you know it's a one year flyer on a 572 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: guy who can fly, and you know he brings a 573 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: different type of an element to it too. Tom defensively, 574 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: Robert Salas said before free agency started that we'd like 575 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: to run it back as much as possible. How important 576 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: was it for the Jets to retain Quincy Williams didn't 577 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: even get to the market. Yeah, it's a young linebacker. 578 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: And then how about the value from Joe Douglas. They're 579 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: sending a seventh in twenty twenty four for Chuck Clark. Well, 580 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: you could tell with the deal that Quincy Williams guy, 581 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: it was a strong deal for him. I mean that 582 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: that shows you how important it was to keep him. 583 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: What a remarkable story. The Jaguars cut him. They don't 584 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: even want him back on the practice quad, the Jets 585 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: claim him, and he becomes a highly productive player. I mean, 586 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: those those stories don't happen a whole lot. And obviously 587 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: people are gonna look at, you know, keeping him around 588 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: because his brother lives with him, and his brother's a 589 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: pretty good player too. Maybe there's a little bit of that, 590 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: but no, they really like they really like h like 591 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: Quincy Williams, and then with Chuck Clark, he was somebody 592 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: the Ravens really like early on, just kind of the 593 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: numbers didn't match up for what his role was probably 594 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: going to be moving forward. They draft to Kyle Hamilton 595 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: last year, so a little bit of a backlog at 596 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: the position. But I mean Chuck Clark was really the 597 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: guy who stepped in when Earl Thomas had his issue 598 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: and disappeared off the face of the earth after that 599 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: practice incident. You know, Chuck was you know, he kind 600 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: of stepped into a larger role there, you know, and 601 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: filled He was a leader on that team too, so 602 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: it made a lot of sense. I mean, again, these 603 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: are moves you don't make if you're not expecting to contend. 604 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: They don't trade for Chuck Clark two years ago. You 605 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: don't take on whatever. He's making five million dollars, six 606 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: million dollars safety veteran on this team, and he doesn't 607 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: necessarily want to come to a place like this. But now, 608 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,959 Speaker 1: you know, you make those types of deals because you're 609 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: figuring work close. You know, we're really close, and they 610 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: were and they were excellent on defense last year. I 611 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: was covering the game win. Oddly enough, they beat the 612 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: Packers at lambeau Field and that was driven by that defense. 613 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: And you know, Sauce was wearing the cheese head around 614 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: after the game, ran into the wrong locker room like 615 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: for good reason. You know, he played well and so 616 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: did that whole unit. Yeah, this is an exciting group 617 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: that figures to be playing together for a number of 618 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: years that have. We really appreciate your time. Let's get 619 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: out on this Ben Jones Center formally with Titans. Roberts 620 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: always asked about the interest there. He said, yeah, but 621 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: you know, he's somebody we're looking into. And then also 622 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: Kalais Campbell, veteran defensive tackle. The Jets want to beef 623 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: up the interior. They've had Sheldon Rankin's departs and free 624 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: agency did as did Nathan Shepard. What do you make 625 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: of where those two guys are at and potentially they're 626 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: fits here. Well, Ben Jones is you know, he's a 627 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: really tough guy. He's played through a lot of injuries, 628 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: so I don't, you know, have access to knowing kind 629 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: of where he's at medically speaking right now, just physically. 630 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: But I mean, great guy. He's made a lot of 631 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: money for good reason, plays a really important position. They've 632 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: got a need at that spot. And then with Klais, 633 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: I mean Klais is one of like the best guys ever. Yeah, 634 00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: like just I mean great locker room guy, Flarry Klais 635 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: Campbell story real quick. So back in twenty seventeen, I 636 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: somehow ended up even though the Vikings were making a 637 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: run and I live in Minneapolis, I ended up on 638 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: the Jaguars beat in the playoffs, which I figured was 639 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: going to be, you know, probably a one off type 640 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: of a situation, but they want to want a weird 641 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: game over the Bills. And then the next week they 642 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: had the Steelers that they were playing. It was the 643 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: game that nobody remembers because it was the same day 644 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: as the Minneapolis miracle had happened right before that, and 645 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: but it was one of the wildest games of all time. 646 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: So during the week that I was in Jacksonville between 647 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: those two games, Klais said to me we were doing 648 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 1: an on camera interview, and he said, and they had 649 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: beaten the Bills. I want to say nine to six. 650 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: It was something on the point. And he goes, man, 651 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's nine to six or forty 652 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: five forty two. We'll take these wins however we you know, 653 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: however we can get them. So I like, you know, 654 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: that interview goes you kind of forget what people say. 655 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 1: So after the game in Pittsburgh, which they won forty 656 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: five to forty two, a score that had never happened 657 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: in NFL history, Clais he goes, you gotta get the tape. 658 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: How to get the tape? I go back and looking, 659 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: sure enough, he predicted the exact score never happened in 660 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: the NFL history. Just say, I don't care, nine sixty two. 661 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: And like the fact that he remembered it in the moment, 662 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: I was able to like drawn saying that in that 663 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: interview like that, just that just speaks to him. He's 664 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: he's a great guy. He's one of the biggest humans 665 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: you'll ever see. In your life. He's got one of 666 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: the great voices too. You know, I can't even do 667 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: a good class impression, but like park Cookie monster, M yeah, 668 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: I mean that would make it again things you would 669 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: not be doing if you were not at this point 670 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: that the Jets are. I mean, there's I want to 671 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: put you know, expectations on him because I think that 672 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years there's definitely people thinking 673 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: too much and too fast. This is a team now 674 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: that is ready to win. With Aaron Rodgers, There's there's 675 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: no question that they should be a contender in twenty 676 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: twenty three. That's a great Campbell's story because everything comes 677 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: full circle because I believe the offensive coordinator that Jackson 678 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: Belle Jaguars team, Daniel Nathaniel Hacket, Tom FALLACEO, you's hap 679 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: thank you brother, m hm hm hm