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Speaker 1: To John Nnick and Kenny Florian podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I fucking love him. I can't get enough of him. Duffy.

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Speaker 3: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved

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Speaker 3: bullshit artists.

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Speaker 1: You're your hosts, John Nnick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: That was a pretty inspired pre show meeting today. But

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Speaker 4: we gotta start banking some content. Notice in that show open,

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Speaker 4: by the way, how Ken Flow just beautifully lays out

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Speaker 4: to let me cap that mere Duffy fight. Gotta love them,

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Speaker 4: but we got to bank some content because I'm hurting

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Speaker 4: for certain I'm back in South Florida a few hours

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Speaker 4: after getting off the air at Sunday, November twenty second,

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty, episode two seventy seven of the Anak and

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Speaker 4: Florian podcasts. We're trying to fire this baby out to

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Speaker 4: you quickly before the masses, and we have a lot

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Speaker 4: to discuss today after UFC two to fifty five.

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Speaker 5: Ken Flow, how are you doing Kenny today? By the way, I.

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Speaker 6: Am doing well. I'm excited to talk about this card

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Speaker 6: with you. Somehow, you look like you slept twelve hours, dude,

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Speaker 6: I mean, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: No, I think It's just that I haven't eaten a

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Speaker 4: lot in the last twenty four hours, so I look underweight.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm probably like one hundred and fifty one pounds.

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Speaker 4: By the end of NFL Sunday, I'll probably be one

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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty eight pounds.

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Speaker 2: Good as you should, I'll put.

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Speaker 5: On seven eight pounds today.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 4: Headlines begins, of course, with Davison figureto headlining here against

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Speaker 4: Alex Perez first championship title defense. Bro, thank you first

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Speaker 4: for telling me how to pronounce deus Gaha. Kind of

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Speaker 4: fucked up my show open a little bit, but we

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Speaker 4: got that part of it right minute and fifty seven

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Speaker 4: seconds in title defense number one.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, the kid just goes for it.

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Speaker 6: You know, listen, I think he's a guy who was

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Speaker 6: not out there to win on points. He's not out

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Speaker 6: there to play around and necessarily be so strategic. He's

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Speaker 6: out there to destroy. So his name, the God of

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Speaker 6: War is absolutely perfect for him. I love the fact

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Speaker 6: that he went for that beautiful scissor like takedown to

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Speaker 6: Kanne Bessami there off of the single leg that his opponent, Perez.

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Speaker 2: Was trying to hit on him, you know, was trying

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Speaker 2: to go for the foot.

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Speaker 6: Log ended up transitioning into that beautiful arm in guillotine.

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Speaker 6: The kid is extremely powerful. He's big for the weight class.

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Speaker 6: He's either going to knock you out or submit you,

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Speaker 6: it seems, and I think he just made that division

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Speaker 6: much more exciting.

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Speaker 4: We did not have our fighter meeting with him because

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Speaker 4: he was so focused on the weight cut, which sort

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Speaker 4: of made me infer that perhaps it wasn't going too well.

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Speaker 4: But when I went to get my temperature check at

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Speaker 4: eight twenty am Pacific on Friday, he was getting his

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Speaker 4: temperature checked. He was seventh on the scale, but he

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Speaker 4: was one of the first guys there. And I don't

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Speaker 4: want to say that he has mastered that part of it, Kenny,

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Speaker 4: because I do believe that it is going to be

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Speaker 4: a challenge for him to healthily make this weight and

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Speaker 4: compete in this weight class. Rumblings that he's going to

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Speaker 4: turn around here obviously in three weeks and fight at

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Speaker 4: UFC two to fifty six, and I think that's the

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Speaker 4: way to do it really for him, is to put

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Speaker 4: training camps on top of each other and stay lean

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Speaker 4: as hell because it ain't gonna be easy.

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Speaker 6: Well, Listen, I think it's a good thing that he's

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Speaker 6: sitting there at the top of the division as champion,

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Speaker 6: because there's nothing more motivating than getting that money, having

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Speaker 6: that belt around your waist, and understanding how important every

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Speaker 6: single fight is now as champion of that division.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's a huge motivating factor.

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Speaker 6: I do think that a quick turnaround for him will

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Speaker 6: serve him well Moreno, of course, who he wants to fight,

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Speaker 6: and probably he's gonna fight in a few weeks look

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Speaker 6: fantastic as well, which I'm sure we'll get into. But

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Speaker 6: this is a guy that I think is firing in

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Speaker 6: all cylinders right now. He's really feeling himself and looking

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Speaker 4: I want to get into the guillotine and the Alex

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Speaker 4: Perez side of things, but I also want to read

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Speaker 4: a tweet here from Bruce Marshall. I believe it is,

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Speaker 4: and he wrote to me, Dude, after this submission the

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Speaker 4: main event, can't you yell out restart?

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Speaker 5: That was going to be a freaking war.

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Speaker 4: We was robbed of an even better show, and I

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Speaker 4: do think there is some sentiment there right all credit

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Speaker 4: to Davison Fioretto, but we build these championship fights up

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Speaker 4: to such an extent and then a minute and fifty

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Speaker 4: in the world with the post fight show after, but

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Speaker 4: you know, I did want to see more action, if

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Speaker 4: I'm being honest, and I think for Perez this is

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Speaker 4: this makes it particularly difficult to swallow Kenfill all your

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Speaker 4: title fights went long.

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Speaker 6: You know, yeah, you know, I think that for Perez,

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Speaker 6: I didn't like the fact that he was kind of

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Speaker 6: almost seemed like he was too excited. I saw a

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Speaker 6: figuraedo that you know, he was sitting back in his

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Speaker 2: It was another day.

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Speaker 6: You know this dude, some guys are just built for this.

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Speaker 6: You know, like his heart rate is probably like, you know,

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Speaker 6: fifty as he walks into the octagon, whereas Perez was like,

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Speaker 6: you know, kind of looked like Tyson as he was

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Speaker 6: make eye contacted. To me, it seemed like, even though

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Speaker 6: he has a lot of fight experience, he doesn't have

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Speaker 6: really matters. And you know, Figureedo also just skill wise,

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Speaker 6: the dude. I think the fact that he doesn't give

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Speaker 6: to him. So, yeah, it was unfortunate Perez. I think

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Speaker 6: Perez is better than that. He's an excellent fighter. I

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Speaker 6: just think that you make one mistake at the highest level,

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Speaker 6: that's what's going to happen.

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Speaker 4: And it's a great point twenty four and five coming in,

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Speaker 4: but not a lot of big fight experience.

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Speaker 5: You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 4: He went twenty five minutes Tachi Palace twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 2: You know, right.

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Speaker 4: A lot has happened since then in terms of the

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Speaker 4: guillotine defense. It didn't seem like any of my broadcast

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Speaker 4: it's all credit to Davis and Figuretto, and you sort

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Speaker 4: of set up some of the intricacies of all that

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Speaker 4: was going on here more than kind of meets the amry.

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Speaker 4: But what do you make of Perez getting himself or

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I thought it was tough.

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Speaker 6: I don't think he respected the attack very much until

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Speaker 6: which means you got to start to really pin both

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Speaker 6: obviously Figureedo is a very powerful individual. I think that

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Speaker 2: There is no tough out of a choke that's the problem.

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Speaker 6: Like armlocks, we've seen guys like even let their arms

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Speaker 6: pop or break.

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Speaker 2: Leg locks, you can.

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Speaker 6: Kind of like get out of it sometimes, but with

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Speaker 2: It's it.

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Speaker 4: I just find the jiu jitsu stuff is so fascinating.

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Speaker 4: I know you're doing a lot of it on your

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Speaker 4: YouTube channel right now. Doesn't mean to want to practice

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Speaker 4: it regularly, but I love hearing about it, I really do.

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Speaker 4: All right, So we might as well talk about Brandon

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Speaker 4: Moreno because it looks as though reportedly these guys are

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Speaker 4: the UFC flyweight belt at UFC two fifty six, which

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Speaker 4: is incredible, or maybe not so much in this COVID

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Speaker 4: nineteen climate when everything seems to be on the table

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Speaker 4: because so many things are off the table. But in

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Speaker 4: terms of Brandon Moreno, let's start with Brandon Royball's injury

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Speaker 4: if we could, because the toughness is just next level.

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Speaker 4: And I got to ask you, why can't the ringside

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Speaker 4: physician put his shoulder back in?

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Speaker 5: Why is he waiting for Mark Montoya?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what's what's the doctor there for?

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Speaker 4: Can you see the man's in pain, like because he

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Speaker 4: couldn't do it himself. And dude, I'm telling you when

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Speaker 4: Montoya as if he had just saved his life, like,

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Speaker 4: thank you, coach for leaving some of the pay.

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Speaker 5: What's the doctor there for?

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Speaker 2: You have no idea? That's the thing, you know.

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Speaker 6: I think sometimes as doctors you overthink things a little

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Speaker 6: bit and like, all right, let's get let's wait till

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Speaker 2: There, blah blah uh.

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Speaker 6: And I think, you know, I think you may have

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Speaker 6: probably something that happens to him repeatedly. He was Actually

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Speaker 6: it looked like at one point he was trying to

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Speaker 6: So yeah, really unfortunate stuff because that fight was looking

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Speaker 2: I love both those guys.

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Speaker 4: I just can't believe he is sitting there getting blasted

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Speaker 4: on the ground trying to put his shoulder back in

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Speaker 4: so as to defend and prolong the fight. So, Brandon Royval,

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Speaker 4: keep your nickname, raw Dog. You're an incredible fighter, And

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Speaker 4: hopefully he turns around pretty quickly medically, it's not too

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Speaker 4: big of an issue. But much respect to him and defeat.

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Speaker 4: But how about the assassin baby, Brandon Moreno, shiney k

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Speaker 4: new number one next to his name going into the fight,

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Speaker 4: and that's a finish and that's a title shot.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, he really is so good everywhere. Man,

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Speaker 6: I love the way he fights. I've never seen by

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Speaker 6: the way I've never seen Moreno this fired up walking

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Speaker 6: was pissed off. He was on a mission. He feels

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Speaker 6: like he's the guy who should have got the title shot, right,

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Speaker 6: and he was out there to kill whoever the he

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Speaker 6: You know, I think that he's a guy that isn't

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Speaker 2: I've never seen his takedowns that sharp.

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Speaker 6: I think he was aware of all the attacks that

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Speaker 2: So, Yeah, I think it's a fantastic fight.

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Speaker 6: I think Figuretto really needs I mean, I'm sorry, I

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Speaker 2: I think that's where Figureedo is going to be most dangerous.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 4: How many athletes would like more time for this particular

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Speaker 6: Well, that's the thing, listen, I think every fighter is different,

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Speaker 2: I know that Moreno wants his fight.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how Moreno trains or how he he's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's almost like he has to take it now.

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Speaker 6: However, I think anytime you're facing a champion, right you

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Speaker 6: Is three weeks enough for someone like Davis and Figureedo.

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Speaker 6: I don't think so. But perhaps Moreno feels that he's

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Speaker 6: You know, I think.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a fight that's probably gonna happen. I

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Speaker 6: Some guys like the quick turnaround. Other guys, you know,

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Speaker 2: I so I'm interested to see what happens.

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Speaker 5: And he's a young man.

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Speaker 4: It wouldn't be out of the realm with possibility for

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Speaker 4: belt in the not too distant future. Twenty six years old.

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Speaker 4: The money won't hurt. I'll give you this over under

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Speaker 4: two and a half daughters right now for Brandon, right.

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Speaker 2: Now, he's got over.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't he already have three daughters or three daughters?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy twenty six years of age, God bless you?

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Speaker 5: Is that what I should say? Like God, bless you. Condolences.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what does I have two downstairs of

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Speaker 4: that's not what you just signed up for here. You

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Speaker 4: signed up for Valentina Chevchenko, right and hey one one

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Speaker 4: going into the third round. That's one narrative minus three

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Speaker 4: point fifty in a live betting situation at that point

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Speaker 4: three fifty two rounds in, I would have put my

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Speaker 4: entire account on Valentina Shipchanko. I never felt like the

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Speaker 2: Man, is she good again?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 6: I think this is a Shipchenko that is even sharper

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Speaker 6: on the feet. By the way, I thought that that

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Speaker 6: Every time that Maya came forward, she was landing a

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Speaker 2: Her takedowns were sharp as hell.

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Speaker 6: I mean, obviously the ship Cheko sisters are doing a

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Speaker 6: their wrestling looked tremendous. This is not something I expected

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Speaker 6: She's been sharp there for a little bit. Her foot sweeps,

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Speaker 6: her body locked takedowns. But man, she was not afraid

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Speaker 6: to take that fight anywhere against Maya. That's how good

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Speaker 6: And you know, I thought it was a very dominant

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Speaker 4: Forty nine forty six times three for Valentina Chevchenko. It's

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Speaker 4: certainly put herself physically in shape to not be tired

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Speaker 4: Really turned it on in round five, and great to

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Speaker 8: That's what I'm exactly right.

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Speaker 5: So it's good to see you. Does your hair just

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Speaker 3: Or are you?

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Speaker 5: Are you showered?

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Speaker 3: I mean, my god, they combed it this morning. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 4: So, uh so, how many of the twelve fights last

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Speaker 4: night did you see?

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Speaker 5: My friend? I saw them all absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 4: Well, uh, I guess we'll start with you on Figueto

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Speaker 4: just discussing. But uh man, this flyweight is good and

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Speaker 4: I think if he can consistently make the weight, he

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Speaker 2: My man?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a beast man. I mean, there's no question

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Speaker 3: he's either trying to knock you out or he's trying

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't get it, but I'm just saying

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Speaker 8: But this guy, figure, you know, Delson.

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Speaker 3: Is crazy man, He's going for it, and this other

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Speaker 4: Or really, it makes me appreciate undefeated guys like Habib

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Speaker 4: For me, he was injured, he was under trained, he

438
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 4: was unfocused, and it shows you one little slip up

439
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 4: and U you know, and that's what took him a

440
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 4: little bit longer to build back up. But uh, yeah,

441
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,240
Speaker 4: it's incredible and looks like ray they might turn these

442
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,879
Speaker 4: guys around in three weeks, so uh it might be

443
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,920
Speaker 4: uh Brandon Moreno and Davison figudetto dude, this COVID nineteen climate,

444
00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 4: everything's on the.

445
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 3: Random. Moreno and and Figuredo. Who who doesn't want to

446
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,959
Speaker 3: see that fight. I think that's going to be a

447
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 3: great fight. Uh, that's what the flightweight division. I like

448
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:24,359
Speaker 3: the little guys personally, man, I think I like the

449
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 3: little guys personally.

450
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 2: Man, I think they great.

451
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 3: No, I'm glad they always are great.

452
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 2: Great.

453
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,359
Speaker 5: No, I'm glad that.

454
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 4: I could say, hey, hey, congratulations on the win, no

455
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 4: doubt man, little out.

456
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 3: There, Hey buddy, Hey, good guys. Man, you feel better

457
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 3: about yourself?

458
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 2: Right exactly five five?

459
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,919
Speaker 5: It's just tall. So uh, Valentina Shepchenko.

460
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 4: To know her is to love her like somebody married

461
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 4: that woman already before where I get a divorce and

462
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 4: do so. I mean, just incredible, just incredible everything about her.

463
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 4: And uh, I do think the flyweight division is starting

464
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 4: to round out.

465
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 5: I don't think Amanda Noonas is going to fight her again.

466
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 4: I'm not sure Amanda has more than one cut down

467
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 4: to thirty five in her life. That's my informed speculation.

468
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 4: But uh, what do you have for me on Valentina

469
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:21,880
Speaker 4: over Jennifer Mayah?

470
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 3: Well, the first thing I have is if you do marry,

471
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 3: you'll be washing the dishes. You do understand that.

472
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 5: Though I wash the dishes now, you'll be used to it.

473
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 5: You're not a gun owner.

474
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm I would be happy. I can't

475
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 4: imagine that makes it your house. Valentine is sleeping next

476
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 4: to you, honey, you want to get that.

477
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the difference is now because Chrissy's such a

478
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 3: special person. You do it out of love with Valentine,

479
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 3: You're gonna do it out of fear us. You're gonna

480
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 3: get it. So if that's the.

481
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 5: Difference, yeah, that's a good bat man.

482
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 8: I'd love to see that. I'd love to see them

483
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 8: run that back. I really would.

484
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 5: Think it's gonna happen. I really don't.

485
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 4: I think people will underestimate all that Amanda's body has

486
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 4: been through all the championship training camps. She's a mother now,

487
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 4: just had to pull out of a fight because she

488
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 4: was not healthy. I just I don't know, man, I

489
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 4: think it's wishful thinking.

490
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 5: I really do.

491
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 4: She's two up in the series. I don't think Nunas

492
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 4: has anything to gain running it back unless they're going

493
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 4: to guarantee her a huge payday.

494
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 8: Yeah.

495
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 3: Oh look, Nuna Nuna is I still only because of

496
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 3: the body of work and the people that she's forught

497
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 3: I think she's had the tougher competition, and she's fort everybody,

498
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 3: man and get really good people. I think Valentina, you know, man,

499
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 3: she's special too.

500
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 2: Man.

501
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 3: That's it's a crazy yeah. And that fight was close.

502
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, there's no doubt about it. Yeah, that's no

503
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 5: doubt about it.

504
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 4: And I think Valentina is so deserving of that fight,

505
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 4: and it's the biggest fight I think we can make

506
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 4: in a lot of respects. But in terms of who

507
00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 4: might be next for Valentina, right, you can understand the

508
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 4: fan base would be excited about Jessica Androge. Lauren Murphy

509
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 4: is more established in the division with four consecutive wins,

510
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 4: but it would seem to me, based upon Dana White's comments,

511
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 4: that Androge is gonna be next for Chevchenko. And I

512
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 4: do know a lot of people ray feel like Androge

513
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 4: has found her wheelhouse, even though she's only one to

514
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 4: know at twenty five. What do you think about that

515
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 4: type of challenge for Valentina.

516
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's it's interesting, you know what I mean,

517
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 3: because you know that Androge isn't gonna probably will have

518
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 3: no respect for it.

519
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 8: She comes forward regardless of anything.

520
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 3: So I do believe it'll make for an exciting fight

521
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 3: and I can't see it going passed like the second round.

522
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 8: But h I think that's a fight the fans would

523
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 8: want to see.

524
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 3: And you know, even to Valentine's credit also, and going

525
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 3: back to the COVID nineteen thing, we were talking about

526
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: people taking advantage. Look at Caitlin. Caitlyn, Man, what she's done, Like,

527
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 3: she really great performance last night, and she's so busy

528
00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 3: and she's fighting and man, she's just having a living

529
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 3: for herself. But the difference in levels is crazy because

530
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 3: she she made that fight against Cynthia looked easy, right,

531
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 3: and that other kid can fight, you know, So that

532
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 3: goes to show you the difference between like Valentine or

533
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 3: and everybody else, you know what I'm saying. And I

534
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 3: think she got caught with the andrage, but I think

535
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 3: Katelyn that would have been a good fight.

536
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 8: Caitlyn and Androge if she didn't.

537
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 3: You know, she caught that body shot and you know

538
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 3: that could take anybody down. We've seen it the week afterward.

539
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 3: One of the other guys I forget who went down

540
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: from one of those who the hell, I don't know, Oh.

541
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 5: I haven't slept. Apparently apparently you look.

542
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 3: Great today, John, you know what I'm saying Like that,

543
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 3: that's how I think there's such a wide gap between

544
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 3: Valentina or and everybody else. It's crazy. That's where that's

545
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 3: the big problem. That's a big problem. Yeah, So I

546
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 3: can you get excited for Androge? Yeah, you know she's

547
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 3: gonna bring it. Uh, and there's always a chance that

548
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 3: you catches it with something, I guess. I mean, i'd

549
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 3: be interested to see that fight. I think, you know,

550
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 3: she's got momentum. Or maybe another thing is you bring

551
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 3: up the Chinese girl, you know, the one twenty five

552
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 3: or maybe they need at a catch weight at one

553
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 3: twenty or something. You make that because.

554
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, you know Jeong Wayley you're talking about. Yeah, yeah,

555
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 4: I don't know about Valentine at one twenty ken flow.

556
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 8: Well, I'm saying, but one twenty five, you bring the other.

557
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 5: Girl up, right right?

558
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: I think I think that'd be a really interesting super fight.

559
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 3: Absolutely very simiar fighters, because look, man, Joanna did fight Valentina.

560
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 8: They won five rounds. Am I mistaken or did she

561
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 8: get stopped?

562
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 5: Yeah?

563
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 3: It was just overpowered I think in that fight. But

564
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 3: she came up from one to fifteen. I thought Johanna

565
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 3: did a great job in that fight. Yeah, so the

566
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 3: other girl that might that might make for an interesting fight.

567
00:25:54,640 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 4: Kenny quickly three the twenty seven times three over Cynthia Calvio.

568
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 4: You guys were all over Chickegi and plus two hundred

569
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 4: or better.

570
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 5: She could be had at close.

571
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 4: She's just improved a lot even since the title fight

572
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 4: in February. But I want to ask you specifically about

573
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 4: the codes and all of the execution and doing sort

574
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 4: of exactly what Mark Henry wants in a quiet arena

575
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 4: in which she could hear everything.

576
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, that's absolutely a factor.

577
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 6: I think that really helps, no doubt about that, especially

578
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 6: anytime there's that kind of instruction.

579
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: Coming from your corner.

580
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 6: But more than anything else, you know, I thought the reach,

581
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 6: the height was a big problem for calvill I mean,

582
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 6: she looked so much smaller. Yea and boyd did Jakegian

583
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 6: utilize all of that reach to that fight. She kept

584
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 6: her on the outside, she had the footwork going, and

585
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 6: she was just looking sharp throughout that fight.

586
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 2: I think also, I think.

587
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 6: Her last performance, she was very disappointed and she came

588
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 6: out like she wanted to prove a point. Like that

589
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 6: last fight, was kind of a fluke and she maybe

590
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 6: you know, made some mistakes out there that she wasn't

591
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 6: proud of. So she came out definitely with a fire

592
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 6: behind her. And she looked great last night.

593
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna love you. Look I I've seen her

594
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: in the gym and I know her. I really like it.

595
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 3: She's got a great fight. I can trust me. She

596
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 3: she knows how to fight, she knows how to teach.

597
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. She's really really squared away,

598
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: like uh uh, and I knew. I mean I didn't

599
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 3: even know she was an underdog. I would have even

600
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: bet that if I wasn't even following that. But uh,

601
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 3: but you know I had a She helped out Mazuki

602
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 3: for her last fight. Mazuki could really box man. She's

603
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: probably the same size as Cynthia, so I knew Caitlin

604
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 3: would would be used.

605
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 8: To that too. And plus she's got you know, sarge

606
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 8: of I can't.

607
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 3: Think of the girl's name is yre this ball with

608
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, she found her groove with some

609
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 3: training partners during this pandemic. But like again, she gets it.

610
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 3: Like when I if I have a conversation with her

611
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 3: about fighting she's on the money. You know, she's she's

612
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 3: married to a great wrestler, Kyle sim So I mean

613
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: she she is more squared away than you think. And

614
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 3: again I think that just even segueing into Valentina, I mean,

615
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 3: she's just Valentina is just that freaking good. You.

616
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 8: I mean, the upper body strength on her, just flinging

617
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 8: the mayraround. See that, Kenny right crazy, like you're gonna prolide.

618
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 8: Like it's not like we're gonna sit here and I'm

619
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 8: gonna drag it to the floor. Now you're you're getting

620
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 8: lifted off your feet and smashed to the floor. That

621
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 8: girl's got special strength, special focus. And uh and one

622
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 8: other thing about Caitlin, because I really I like her.

623
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 3: He's a great person. She loses to Valentine, to look

624
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: at the wind she has over her sister, who now

625
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: has a great fight, a dominant performing over her sister.

626
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 3: Then she loses andrage and look with the performance over Cynthia.

627
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 3: So there's people that buckle under defeat and get past it.

628
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 3: But she's not that. That's what I'm saying. She's that good.

629
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 3: She jumps right back in there, she proves who she is.

630
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: There is just different levels in this. So I think Caitlin,

631
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: you know, if you want to get by her to

632
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: fight for the title, it's not going to be easy,

633
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So, but you know those fights,

634
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: you know that that might be her uh whatever, not Heralbatros.

635
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 3: So you know that Valentine is going to be a

636
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 3: problem for anybody, you know. But I'd like to see

637
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: that run back, maybe in a couple of more fights,

638
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 3: if she stays on a winning streak, because I don't

639
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 3: know who else they're going to give her. That's the

640
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 3: biggest thing.

641
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: Ray I wanted to switch gears a little bit. Uh.

642
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: You know.

643
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 6: Al Jo tweeted yesterday which was kind of concerning to me.

644
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 6: He said, uh, you're everything good with you, my guy?

645
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 6: And this was the tweet for Pyotr Jan.

646
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: Have you heard anything or what's going on?

647
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: Nan? I heard I've heard nothing. I didn't see the

648
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: tweet either. What was the tweet?

649
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: He said, everything good with you, my guy.

650
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 4: He's asking if everything's okay with Pyotr Jan and seems

651
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 4: like he is talking to some people about that. They're

652
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 4: some rumors about Oh I.

653
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 3: Didn't hear anything about that. I mean, I've just I

654
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 3: just watched Aljo's list faring, but I haven't called him yet,

655
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: and I'll be going out there pretty soon.

656
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 8: But I didn't hear anything through it.

657
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 3: But I got to know these guys from the gym

658
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 3: with him that I think they would have said something

659
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: to me. But I guess Aljo is looking for some interaction.

660
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: He's wacky man, so I don't know what to make

661
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: of that. But if he heard something, I'm in the dog.

662
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: I haven't heard.

663
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 4: Well, we're sitting here on a Sunday morning, so we'll

664
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 4: see how it all shakes out. You should have spent

665
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 4: some of that You should have spent some of that

666
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 4: extra rounds paycheck on a Cheo Kegian ticket.

667
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 3: You know, I tell you why. That's a big underdog

668
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: for that fight.

669
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 4: I couldn't believe that price. If you go back and watch,

670
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 4: I couldn't help but acknowledge it. On broadcast, they got

671
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 4: that one wrong. Maybe that's the wrong way to put it.

672
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 4: Maybe they got two way action. But Chew Kegyan was

673
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 4: a live underdog to all of us. I think in

674
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 4: the space with respect to Cynthia Calvio and in ten

675
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 4: flow to spend six minutes on Caitlyn Chukegan. But I

676
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 4: really do love her, and she now his tib with

677
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 4: Gillian robertson most flyweight wins in UFC history. Right, She's

678
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 4: got eight UFC wins overall, six at one hundred and

679
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 4: twenty five pounds. And if you would have told me

680
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 4: in March that I would have an appetite to raise

681
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 4: point to see Chu Kegan and Valentina again, I would

682
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 4: have been like, yeah, no appetite for it. And now

683
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 4: here we are nine months later, and I got a

684
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 4: fucking appetite for it.

685
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

686
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 6: Listen, I think where she sits in the division, and

687
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 6: I think she's in the upper tier.

688
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: I think there's few women in the.

689
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 6: Division that has those kind of skills in all those

690
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 6: different areas like Chakegan. And I thought that she was

691
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 6: able to mix things up against a Calvio that I

692
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 6: think a lot of people were high on.

693
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: But she showed that she's on a different level.

694
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 8: Yeah.

695
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: No, and again and she's active as hell. Yeah, four

696
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: fights a lot man, stay inactive, which is always good

697
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: for you.

698
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 4: Hey, Ray, speaking of active, how about tim means business?

699
00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 4: Twenty third UFC appearance went over Mike Perry by unanimus

700
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 4: decision a lot to unpack in terms of Perry, sort

701
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 4: of hard to get a grip on where he's at

702
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 4: exactly in a lot of phases of his life. I

703
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 4: still believe in him as a fighter, I really do.

704
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 4: But uh, Tim means man, how about that jab man?

705
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: He utilized his range at times perfectly and at times

706
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: he stayed right in the pocket the times he probably

707
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 3: regrets it all, but he did do a great job.

708
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 3: But look, man again, a bigger issue. And I tell

709
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: you I had this over the weekend because I had

710
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: four guys fighting in Philadelphia Wednesday and Thursday. But one

711
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 3: of the fights was canceled. The guy came in five

712
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 3: or six pounds overweight, and I said, don't take the fight.

713
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 3: I just like it. I think, just tell me if

714
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 3: I'm wrong on this. Now I'm starting to think, you know,

715
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 3: because at this level, like Tim Mean said it, I

716
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 3: got an extra thirty grand. My guy would have got

717
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: like two hundred dollars, you know what I mean. Like, Okay,

718
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,239
Speaker 3: so I see the money. I get that part, you know,

719
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: but I think the Athletic Commission has to step in there.

720
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: You're more than like two pounds over the weight limit.

721
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: The fights off just I think the fights off at

722
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 3: the lower levels. There's no money, so you're not getting

723
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 3: compensated for anything, you know. I mean I could see

724
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: at the bigger levels, Hey, you're getting another seventy grand Okay,

725
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 3: that sounds that sounds good. But I don't know, Man,

726
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: this weight thing and this guy's dad been up there

727
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 3: after he misses weight. I mean, son't be disrespectful.

728
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 8: Like what is what is that?

729
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 3: I mean, what are you trying to figure out with

730
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: this guy that you don't understand?

731
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 8: Again?

732
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 4: Well, no, I just why this became the way it

733
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 4: all went down for him, you know, because the Mickey

734
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 4: golf fight, he was an outstanding shape, you know, and

735
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 4: he's still I think even whatever the hell happened, you know,

736
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 4: he obviously didn't diet. I mean there are videos of

737
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 4: him chowing food being like, you know, maybe this is

738
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 4: going to be tough, like weeks out. But Kenny, we

739
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 4: could spend a whole show and Ray, I'm glad you

740
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 4: brought it up, But Kenny, we could spend a whole

741
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 4: show talking about what to do. The UFC is not

742
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 4: in the business of just seeing fights go away. It

743
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 4: is in their interest to have these fights go on

744
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 4: for the sake of fighter contracts and so many other things.

745
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 5: But I just don't know what the right solution is.

746
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 4: I mean, I think there are a lot of suggestions

747
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 4: out there, and we can get into some of those,

748
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: but largely I agree with Ray. When you have a

749
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 4: miss like this, Perry shouldn't be able to go in

750
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 4: there and get a welterweight win. And even though he

751
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 4: couldn't get a bonus, he could go out and get

752
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 4: what would amount to one hundred and seventy pounds win.

753
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 5: And I hate that.

754
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think if the Athletic Commission is there

755
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: to protect you, right, that's what they say, We're there

756
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: to make the playing ground.

757
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 8: Even that's what they want to do. They want to

758
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 8: level the playing ground.

759
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 3: What how to fuck is letting the guy fight five

760
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 3: pounds over with Those last five pounds are kill of

761
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 3: the people, you know what I mean? Like I told

762
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 3: my guy the other day, go I go nuhs. Imagine

763
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 3: like the fighters at fifty five, I go one sixty one,

764
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: you're crushing everything like you have any and felt your

765
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 3: weight cut you. It does list six pounds that really

766
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: kill you. It's like it's a huge advantage. It's a

767
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 3: huge advantage.

768
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 6: Absolutely, I mean, ray you something, you think I wanted

769
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 6: to cut those extra five pounds? You think I wanted

770
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 6: to cut the last one pound?

771
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: Definitely? And still that's the point, man. But you know what,

772
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 3: like again, Paul Felder found a way to do it.

773
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 2: In five days.

774
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: You know what. Amazing you found a way to do

775
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 3: it your torture. But some guys aren't going to do it.

776
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 3: They shouldn't be rewarded with a fight. They should that's

777
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 3: the only way you're going to teach you.

778
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 2: You know, I think one thing you guys kind of

779
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: alluded to it.

780
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 6: But again, you guys are talking about what should we

781
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 6: allow them to get a win if someone doesn't make weight.

782
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: I think it should automatically be a no contest if

783
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 2: they win. Something like that. You know, maybe you know

784
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 2: what I mean.

785
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 6: I think that exhibition fight, you can fight, but it's

786
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 6: gonna be a no contest no matter what.

787
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, something like that.

788
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: But gets his paycheck. But if the guy that made loses,

789
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: it's not on his record, right well.

790
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 4: And some suggest a point deduction, and there are other

791
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 4: promotions that if you miss by this much, maybe you're

792
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 4: going in there down three points already but I still

793
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 4: don't like then that Mike Perry can go out there

794
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 4: and knock Tim Means out and then he can still

795
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 4: get a win. I don't believe divisionally you should be

796
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 4: able to get a welterweight win. And that's the problem

797
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 4: is that if Mike Perry beats Tim Means, he is

798
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 4: match made forward as if that's a welterweight win, and

799
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 4: he still climbs the welterweight ladder despite missing the weight.

800
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 4: And for us to talk about weight cutting in front

801
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 4: of Ken Fel like, people don't realize, right, even for

802
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 4: fifty five cutting down from seventy six, right, I mean

803
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 4: I remember you at the Boston Garden and you know,

804
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 4: just like you must just be like you must just

805
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 4: be like what in the actual fuck man, Like you're

806
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 4: literally staring at death in the face.

807
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 8: It's never fun.

808
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: It's never fun.

809
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 6: But again, like bringing up the Paul Felder situation, like

810
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 6: how fun do you think that was?

811
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: I mean, that's as intense as anything I've seen. That

812
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 2: dude is huge for fifty five.

813
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 6: Fifty five and five days like that's insane. But again,

814
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 6: some people are willing to do the work. Some people

815
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 6: are willing to suffer to make their dreams happen.

816
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: And I think that even in defeat.

817
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 6: That's why Paul Felder gained way more fans because of

818
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 6: that respect for him in a defeat than he would

819
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 6: have shown up ten pounds overweight and beaten the hell

820
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 6: out of.

821
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: You know, Huffield dos Angels. You know.

822
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 6: So again, but as time goes on, people will see

823
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 6: the W and see the L and it's unfortunate. But

824
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 6: I do think one way to rectify the situation is

825
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 6: perhaps letting them fight. But if they do win, the

826
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 6: best you could do is a no contest.

827
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, something like that.

828
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 4: Well, if you saw my tweet over the weekend, you

829
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 4: know that that's the best solution I have seen by

830
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 4: a mile.

831
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah.

832
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 3: I mean, something's got to be done. I had to

833
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 3: deal because I had a guy two weeks ago in

834
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: to see FFC fight for a bandamweight title. And again

835
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: the guy comes in five pounds and they got him

836
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 3: down to I think four pounds and my guy lost.

837
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 3: It was a four round fight, but you know those

838
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 3: last pounds for those thirty like I don't know. I mean,

839
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 3: he lost the fight fair and square, but who knows.

840
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: That's the problem. Then you gotta walk away and go

841
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 3: Who the freak knows it's a four round. Maybe the

842
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 3: guy gases out in the fourth round, he gets he

843
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: gets finished, Who the fuck knows? You know what I mean?

844
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: This will be my last comment on this, and it's

845
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 2: really it's this simple. Okay.

846
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 6: If I asked you, hey, man, if I give you

847
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 6: the world championship, or if I give you a win

848
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 6: over this guy, but I take thirty percent of your purse,

849
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 6: would you take it? Every fighter is gonna say yes, oh,

850
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 6: you mean I win, but I take a little hit

851
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 6: on thirty percent. Absolutely, they're all gonna take that. So

852
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 6: that at the end of the day is why they're

853
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 6: not making the weight, right.

854
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: I mean, and look at this Mike Perry being the

855
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 3: ultimate optimist he is. His his analysis was that he

856
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: has to pay less taxes. He he thinks it's a win,

857
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 3: so he s it's a.

858
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 9: Win, all right.

859
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 4: Well yeah, but it's the no contest thing is interesting

860
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 4: because hey, can you push you in back ten minutes?

861
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 5: And if he bitches then he can take that up

862
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 5: with me.

863
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 4: But in terms of the no contest thing, and I

864
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 4: got like twenty tweets that were like, well an it's

865
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 4: never cut weight.

866
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 5: He's talking about this no contest. It's like no, but

867
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 5: Ken Flow has.

868
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 4: Get from him and the myriad professional athlete that I

869
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 4: have talked to over the years that support this no contest.

870
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 4: I think the issue is is that if Mike Perry

871
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 4: or a missing athlete can't get a win, they're they're

872
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 4: dean disincentivized to fight because you can't go get a win.

873
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 4: But maybe there's something that stipulates that they would have

874
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 4: to fight.

875
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: I don't know so because you never wait made way,

876
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 3: you can't have an opinion that that's my But anyway, listen, John,

877
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: I don't even have that good of a memory, but

878
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: I'm telling you that day in Vancouver sits in my mind.

879
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not even joking at this because the

880
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 3: guy was on the verge of death.

881
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 5: I don't hes and he laughs.

882
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 3: He left, John, he doesn't remember it. That's why he's laughing. Dehydrated.

883
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 3: He doesn't really remember what.

884
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: I actually really don't.

885
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: Him. Right after the fight, like within like a month,

886
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 3: he had no idea what the fuck I was talking about.

887
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 3: If you would have sort that account, can you sign

888
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 3: the pain you gotta paint attack? I got a button

889
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: about you get the out of here. The guy can't

890
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 3: the penal. No really, I mean I'm sitting there with Widman.

891
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 3: It's probably I think it's his first, the second fight.

892
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: I don't want to get involved with Kenny's wake up

893
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 3: so bad. I had a jump in.

894
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: I'm not joking.

895
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, nah, like Jesse the water bong felt that night

896
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 4: or something. Yeah, that's one of those days I will

897
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 4: never forget where I was the wake up the day

898
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 4: before the diego noon as fight Kep comes out in

899
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 4: Boston Bruins Jersey when the Bees are playing the Canucks

900
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 4: in the Stanley Cup Final like an absolute g But

901
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 4: I was at a party. I've told the story many

902
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 4: times on this podcast with my wife, and we were

903
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 4: both just so anxious. And then we saw the picture

904
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 4: of him and the Bruins jersey. The Bruce jersey looked

905
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 4: like a quadruple xcel.

906
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I was like, where's my guy?

907
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 9: Man?

908
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 3: The guy couldn't move, trust me, They just I'm telling you,

909
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 3: I think what's his name? The strength guy just threw

910
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 3: him in the chain and they left and the guy,

911
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 3: I'm surprised you didn't fall out of the chair full

912
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 3: off the jit.

913
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 8: Hey real quick, Cody, what you know what I'd like

914
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 8: to do if we can.

915
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 3: I think it'd be fun for everybody, because, uh, you

916
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: had the Dalby fight last night, like keep bought the

917
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 3: other I'd love to do like a after like a

918
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 3: fight companion me, you and Kenny analyzed the fight round

919
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 3: by round to see who really won or you know,

920
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: was it because sometimes you go back and look. But

921
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 3: I'd love to do that because it's like, even like

922
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: the Jones Reyis or You fight, I think everybody. I

923
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 3: think DC thought Rodriguez one. I thought the other guy

924
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: clearly controlled the whole fight. I don't know, and I'm

925
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 3: not saying it was a good fight or anything, but

926
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 3: I'd love to run those back and go, let's just

927
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 3: look and see maybe what the judges were looking at

928
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 3: or something, and come up with our own thing. Even

929
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: the two girl I think you guys were talking about

930
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 3: the girl fight, which I thought you were right the

931
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: other girl one. But it was a good fight though.

932
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 3: Uh what was it with the uh the two young

933
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: girls last week? Uh the Irish girl Hanson and somebody else?

934
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: Yeh yeah, yeah, I thought that was.

935
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 4: It a good idea that the two of you watched

936
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 4: the fight back together.

937
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 5: You don't have rights to the video, but sort of

938
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 5: talk about it. That sort of an issue.

939
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 4: But I like that you're uh that you're airing your

940
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 4: dirty laundry here and putting thoughts out there.

941
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 3: I like you dirty laundry.

942
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 5: Now, that's the wrong way to put it.

943
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,959
Speaker 4: Hey, I got to ask you about joking Buckley, Yeah,

944
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 4: Cody showing us.

945
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: Oh like I I hear because I really.

946
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 5: What was Buckley joquing Buckley?

947
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 2: Right?

948
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

949
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 4: I don't know if it'll be James Krausser whomever next,

950
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 4: but I wouldn't imagine there be a lot of people

951
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 4: walking up to a window with their money to bet

952
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 4: against Joaquin Buckley right now. Big knockout of Jordan Wright, Kenny,

953
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 4: I'll start with you on this. You know, there was

954
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 4: a lot of pressure on him, and he acknowledged that

955
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 4: it got to him a little bit early on in

956
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 4: the fight. But uh, I think he has the potential

957
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 4: to really do something special. He does not cut a

958
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 4: lot of weight. Came in one eight two of a hook.

959
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 4: What'd you make a Joaquin Buckley's encore? After the big

960
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 4: knockout of a Kasangaai.

961
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 6: He's a powerful dude, And yeah, I think he was

962
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 6: forcing the knockout early on. Definitely, I think he wasn't

963
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 6: pacing himself well and then kind of in the middle.

964
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: Of the round just be like, gee, what what am

965
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: I doing? I need to slow things down.

966
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 6: You saw him slow down significantly and kind of rethought

967
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 6: his process and then let the knockout come more organically.

968
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 6: But I thought that he had a dance partner in

969
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 6: right that was kind of standing up way too tall,

970
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 6: was backing himself up against the fence and wasn't respecting

971
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 6: the power of Buckley, which obviously ended up being his

972
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 6: downfall got knocked down at the end of the round,

973
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 6: saved by the bell. Second round, Buckley's like, Okay, I

974
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 6: know exactly what I need to do. I need to

975
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 6: continually get on the inside. He's not stopping me from

976
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 6: getting on the inside. I'm gonna take his head off

977
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 6: since he's all the way up there, doesn't have a

978
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 6: good stance, and essentially knocked his head off. But again,

979
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 6: this was an excellent performance from Buckley, who I think

980
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 6: is feeding off of all the energy and all the

981
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 6: hype that's been thrown his way, and I think this

982
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 6: was one of those performances where he's able to win.

983
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 2: And still learn a great lesson.

984
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 6: You know, anytime you make a mistake and still get

985
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 6: the win, that's amazing and you're aware of it.

986
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 2: And I think this is a Buckley that's only going

987
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 2: to get better.

988
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's a new he's new, you know what

989
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 3: I mean. So, yeah, he's this is on the job training.

990
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 3: I think he acknowledged that. And again, super powerful dude.

991
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 3: You know you come off one of those you know

992
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 3: that highlight real nigh out. That's gonna test you know,

993
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 3: last to test the time for sure, that's gonna be

994
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 3: forever uh more impressive, Kenny. You know what if you

995
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: watch him, see like I don't think he looked as

996
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 3: technical in the face. See, here's the difference. Like Mike

997
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 3: Perry's a tough guy. We know that if you stand

998
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 3: in front of him, he'll take one. He'll take five

999
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: to give one. You know, he's tough, but he's not

1000
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: He's really not technical Buckley. When he was shadow boxing

1001
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 3: in the back, Kenn, he looked really good, man. He

1002
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 3: had believe it was good. He was spinning around. I

1003
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: don't think we've seen that yet in the octagon.

1004
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 8: So he had the.

1005
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 3: Power like he looks like a better you know, like

1006
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 3: he just wants to throw down with you. But what

1007
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 3: I saw in the background was a guy with great movement. Uh,

1008
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 3: he looked very fluid. So if he could put those

1009
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 3: two together in the octa and I think he's gonna

1010
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: go do really well.

1011
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 4: As kid can't wait to see him. Write James Krause,

1012
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 4: you have to make that fight. You have to put

1013
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 4: it on pay per view January twenty third. I don't

1014
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 4: want to hear anything else.

1015
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 8: We put those guys, what are they Well, they're.

1016
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 4: Both Missouri guys, and I don't think Kraus particularly cared

1017
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 4: for me. Be an interaction that they might have had

1018
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 4: at one point in time, I don't know, but there

1019
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 4: is definite beef there on both sides. And uh, heat

1020
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 4: on fights is what I sign up for every day

1021
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 4: of the week. Hey, we gotta let you get out

1022
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 4: of here. I think Doctor Floria, by the way, is

1023
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 4: going to really enjoy the right logo minute today. But

1024
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 4: all that bano he always does.

1025
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 8: I'll tell you that.

1026
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 3: I tell you, I mean, obviously I never met him,

1027
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 3: but what he seems like a great fan man, he's

1028
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 3: I always see it on Twitter, and it seems like

1029
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 3: a good dude, just like Kenny.

1030
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 8: He loves it, and you too, John and Cody. What

1031
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 8: a nice bunch of guys.

1032
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 4: Right, Just a lot of mister genialities in here, right right?

1033
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 4: I get the fuck out of here? Which you have

1034
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 4: anything else for us?

1035
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 10: Right?

1036
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 8: You have anything? Can you tell me? Tell me to

1037
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 8: get the fuck out of here one more time?

1038
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 4: People don't like when I swear. Some people really like

1039
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 4: when I swear. Some people really don't like it. They

1040
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 4: think it sounds unnatural. Right, I've been doing this since

1041
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 4: I was a very little boy, you know. Get the

1042
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 4: fuck out of here, right, okay?

1043
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 3: Anyway, one of the quest one of the quick thing.

1044
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 3: I assuw your brother on the show.

1045
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 5: Remember the show with.

1046
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 8: He Could Talk Man?

1047
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: This is this runs in the family Man he was

1048
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 3: He's booking that guy holdly.

1049
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably all stoned out of his mind just talking

1050
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 4: him min.

1051
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 8: He sounded good, man, he sounded good. I turned that on.

1052
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 8: I watched Wideman Versus for about good.

1053
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1054
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 5: Well we appreciate that. If you don't know, remember the show.

1055
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 4: Some of our shoulder programming here on the Ankin Floor

1056
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,600
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1057
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1058
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1059
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,520
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1060
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 5: Anything else before we let you go.

1061
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 3: That's it, man, I'm out of here.

1062
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1063
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1092
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 4: some picks. Another UFC Live event this weekend. What a shocker.

1093
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 4: Let's get to the man Event Challenge Event Challenge.

1094
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: And time is most definitely.

1095
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 7: Hi faced fine, how do you everything possible to win?

1096
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: It's the main event challenge to John Annick and Kenny

1097
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: Florian podcast.

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00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 4: All right, we now welcome on the great Ian Parker. Ian,

1099
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 4: I appreciate your patience started to delay you. Ray was

1100
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 4: on fire today. Hair looked pretty dirty actually, but the

1101
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 4: rest of him was on fire. So Team Annik, represented

1102
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 4: by the Duck, takes another week seven to five. First,

1103
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 4: I want to highlight the fact that you were both

1104
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 4: on chuokegy and plus one seventy five. You guys did

1105
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 4: not move the number though, and you got her what

1106
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 4: plus two to twenty or so it close.

1107
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 10: Plus two twenty five. I had that the whole time. Yeah,

1108
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 10: you know, Kenny and I both adread on that for

1109
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 10: a reason. That just seemed like a good matchup for her. Yeah,

1110
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 10: Cynthia just doesn't handle that the reach really well unfortunately.

1111
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 4: Also, Ian, I don't know if you know that Kenny

1112
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 4: did change his pick last minute at an effort to

1113
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 4: pick up points from Joking Buckley to Jordan Wright, solely

1114
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 4: in an effort to close the game. So instead it

1115
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 4: widens one fifty four to one. With four live events

1116
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 4: to go, as we come up on UFC Fight Night

1117
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 4: Blades versus Lewis, we will start here with the co

1118
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 4: main event. And you know, with Ken Flow, he's not

1119
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 4: just going to go offo the rest of the way

1120
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 4: because he uh, he cares about his analysis. So this

1121
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 4: one is Anthony Smith minus one twenty Devin Clark even

1122
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 4: money light heavyweight division. I'm pretty fascinated to see which

1123
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 4: way you guys are going to go So June first,

1124
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, and Anthony Smith submits Alexander Gustafson.

1125
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 5: Seventeen months or so.

1126
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 4: Since then, he's lost two straight, both coming after that

1127
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 4: terrible home invasion. He's one of the most thoughtful, smart guys.

1128
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 4: I love him kind soul. I think Kenny and Ian

1129
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 4: like that there's some post traumatic stress going on, and

1130
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 4: I think that there's nothing in a cage that really

1131
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 4: bothers Anthony Smith. But I'm just not sure that he

1132
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 4: has rehabilitated from that sort of near death experience.

1133
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 5: And I don't know.

1134
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 4: Man the lost to Rockets, after the loss to Shea,

1135
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 4: He's still a favorite here against Devin Clark, coming off

1136
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 4: the biggest win of his career against a Lonzo Manifield.

1137
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 4: Lots of Digestian. I'm dying to know which way you're going, kid.

1138
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, we are seeing a different Anthony Smith, as much

1139
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 10: as he will deny that because of who he is

1140
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 10: and how tough he is and all that good stuff. However,

1141
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 10: and Devin Clark, this is a big difference in competition

1142
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 10: between Menfield and between Smith. I do think Devin Clark's style, though,

1143
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 10: kind of plays into this matchup.

1144
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 9: Well for him.

1145
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 10: I think his strength and his wrestling seems to be

1146
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 10: where Smith seems to always have problems.

1147
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,479
Speaker 9: You know, even though Smith is great at jiu.

1148
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 10: Jitsu on his back, guys that are stronger than him

1149
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 10: seemed to be able to pass the guard quite easier.

1150
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 10: And I think that Devin Clark when he showed US

1151
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 10: was also a change in his IQ.

1152
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 9: He didn't get into that brawl with Menfield.

1153
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 10: He kind of really stuck to the wrestling with god

1154
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 10: him to this level, and I think that gets him,

1155
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 10: unfortunately past Anthony Smith. I am a huge fan of

1156
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 10: Anthony Smith since the Strike four Days, since he was

1157
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 10: fighting in Middlewave. I would like to see him bounce back.

1158
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 10: I don't know, this matchup seems a little funky for me,

1159
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 10: so I'm gonna go with Clark.

1160
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 4: You got a round in a method of victory as

1161
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 4: this is the komain my friend.

1162
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 9: Oh, I'm sorry, I'm gonna that's okay.

1163
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 4: Decision for Devin Brown Bear Clark, Kenny. I don't know

1164
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 4: if Anthony Smith has peaked as a fighter or not.

1165
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 4: He has competed for the championship obviously some big wins,

1166
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 4: including Gus I can tell you Devin Clark is peaking,

1167
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 4: he is entering his fighting prime. He is getting better,

1168
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 4: he is coachable, he is all in. What do you

1169
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 4: think about Devin Clark's like dog here against Anthony Lionheartsmith.

1170
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know, both of you guys already highlighted

1171
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 6: some excellent points. I don't know where Anthony Smith is

1172
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 6: headed right now with his career, and I do think

1173
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 6: there's some kind of mental hiccup for sure. Whether that's

1174
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 6: directly related to that incident or not, I don't know.

1175
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 6: Something is definitely going on. He's not approaching it the same.

1176
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 6: He doesn't have that same sharpness to start the fight.

1177
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 6: I'm not sure exactly what is going on. Devin, on

1178
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 6: the other hand, is getting better. I think he's in

1179
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 6: proving he's pacing himself a lot better. He's making better

1180
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 6: decisions out there. It's still a very close fight. I

1181
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 6: would have to lean with Devon based on what we've seen.

1182
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 6: This is all we can do as guys who analyze

1183
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 6: or gamble on fight. All we can look at is

1184
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 6: how they've looked recently and how they match up against

1185
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 6: the other guy. And as of right now, I agree

1186
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 6: with Ian unfortunately that Devon should win by decision.

1187
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you gotta do what you gotta do, right,

1188
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 4: Devin Clark by decision for both of our guys today,

1189
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 4: all right. Main event Curtis Blades minus three twenty five,

1190
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 4: Derek the Black Beast Lewis comes back plus two to

1191
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 4: sixty five. Will need the round and the method of victory.

1192
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 4: Ken Flow is going to lead us on the main

1193
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 4: event here. So Blades has won his last four you

1194
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 4: guys know the only man to beat him, of course

1195
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 4: Francis and Gano, who Derek Lewis has a head to

1196
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 4: head win against. But Blades is a huge problem for

1197
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 4: most of this division. Kenny and Odds suggests this matchup

1198
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 4: is favorable for him. Black Beasts also with a lot

1199
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 4: of momentum. Three straight wins for him and on paper

1200
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 4: the most prolific knockout are in UFC heavyweight history. Fascinating

1201
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 4: stylistic matchup. Gotta think that Lewis's heart might be tested here,

1202
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 4: and it's held up at times in the past for sure.

1203
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 6: What do you think about the main event? You know,

1204
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 6: two heavyweights going at it. All it takes is one

1205
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 6: little clip of the chin and the fight is over.

1206
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 6: And that's especially true. When you have someone like Derek

1207
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 6: Lewis who can put your lights out with any part

1208
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 6: of his body if he lands it, you could be

1209
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 6: sleeping on the canvas. However, style wise, this is a

1210
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 6: horrible matchup for him in Curtis Blades. I think Curtis

1211
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 6: Blades is going to be able to faint his way

1212
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 6: in Eliza's striking, get the respect from Derek Lewis enough

1213
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 6: where he can hit one of those double leg takedowns

1214
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 6: and put him on his back. I could certainly see

1215
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 6: this fight ending in the first round for either guy,

1216
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 6: But for me, I think Curtis Blades is gonna be

1217
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 6: able to take him down. I think he hurts Derek

1218
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 6: Lewis enough to where as they go into the second round,

1219
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 6: Blades takes him down again and then finishes the job

1220
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 6: in the second. So I like Blades in this one,

1221
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 6: and I don't think this is the best matchup for

1222
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 6: Derek Lewis. Should Derek Lewis win, I think this would

1223
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 6: do great things for his career even more so so

1224
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 6: we'll see gonna be gonna be an interesting fight.

1225
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, both guys in the top five. Round two TKO

1226
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 4: for Curtis Blades. The pick for Ken flow Ian Parker.

1227
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 5: The floor is yours.

1228
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 10: This is the worst matchup for Derek Lewis in this

1229
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 10: part of the division.

1230
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 9: You know, him versus Rosen Strike could have been something

1231
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 9: that you know, in my opinion, would have been.

1232
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 10: More favorable towards Derek. Everything Kenny said his spot on Listen,

1233
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 10: Derek Lewis has the heart of a lion.

1234
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 9: He's tough.

1235
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 10: You know, he is getting better. I love his jokes

1236
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 10: about jiu jitsu, but obviously he takes it seriously. But

1237
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 10: if people want to compare this to a fight with

1238
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 10: alexey Olnick with the grappling, you really can't because almost

1239
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 10: a different type of grappler, you know, Curtis blades since

1240
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 10: he's been with Bang Wait Tai. Look at the striking.

1241
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 10: Look how elusive he's beclm you know, Look how just

1242
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 10: different he's been with his angles, how he gets in

1243
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 10: and out, he's not getting too close, he has a

1244
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 10: great reach, and now he's utilized this to set up

1245
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 10: as wrestling and he's.

1246
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 9: Not fucking around. That's the only thought I'm gonna drop.

1247
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 10: I've been promising people I curse less, you know, Like

1248
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 10: in the Vocal fight, he literally said, I'm gonna take

1249
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 10: this guy down. I'm not gonna mess around. Why bother.

1250
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 10: You know, at the end of the day, in this division,

1251
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 10: wins or wins, and if he gets to finish, so

1252
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 10: be it.

1253
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 9: So I think he finishes Derek Lewis so early. If

1254
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 9: he does, it's because Lewis is gonna be so.

1255
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 10: Exhausted from trying to get up, which is totally possible.

1256
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 9: And Blades can have one hundred takedowns in the first

1257
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 9: two rounds.

1258
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 10: I think Blades will win this one in the third round,

1259
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 10: and I'm gonna say by submission, we.

1260
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 4: Are nicking choke third round submission for Curtis Blades. I

1261
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 4: also will not be cussing the rest of the show

1262
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 4: until the very end, when I say, yo fucking later.

1263
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 5: Now, quick pick.

1264
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 4: Miguel Baiae's a minus one eighty five, Takashi Sato plus

1265
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 4: one sixty can Flow Baiaza Caramel Thunder eight. No, I

1266
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 4: think he's an MMA Masters guy actually under the great

1267
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 4: saysar Carnero on Daniel Valverdi, what do you think about

1268
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 4: Baaza and Sato Ken Flow?

1269
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 5: You got one for me?

1270
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 4: Ken Flows on mute. He does not have a sim

1271
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 4: I'll try to make sorry. I'll try to make it

1272
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 4: as quickly as possible. Quick as possible, I think Soto

1273
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 4: has more power. However, Soto has struggled.

1274
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 2: Against guys who can take him down and take his back.

1275
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 6: I do think Biaza is gonna find a way to

1276
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 6: do that, take him down, take his back.

1277
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 2: Rear naked choke Baeza round one ago.

1278
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 4: Ken Flow's got a lot of those rear naked chokes,

1279
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 4: by the way, fucking squeeze Ian Baeza Sato. I mean,

1280
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 4: for you, it's like you could honestly say, in a

1281
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 4: cocky way, right now, just write one down for me, John,

1282
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 4: we got a fourteen point cushion. But I know you're

1283
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 4: not trying to piss off Ken Flow, especially with your

1284
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 4: contract up here in a few weeks.

1285
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: Wow.

1286
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, I guess you're not telling me what about the

1287
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 10: ten year extension yet?

1288
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 9: All right, free agency, We're good. No. I think Kenny

1289
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 9: hit it on the head only.

1290
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 10: My concern with Biaza is just that he really is

1291
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 10: looking to be a fit a knockout artist. And you

1292
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 10: saw against Matt Brown he got a little too cocky

1293
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 10: in that first.

1294
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 9: Run and didn't get dropped.

1295
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 10: And he utilizes Kenny's blueprint, which I hope he's watching

1296
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 10: the show.

1297
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 9: That's the best way for him to win. He can

1298
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 9: get it done that way. So I agree with Kenny, all.

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Speaker 4: Right him before we let you go, Ian Parker, because

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Speaker 4: it looks like they're going to spin its forward and

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Speaker 4: have Davison, Figuretto and Brandon Moreno now fight at UFC

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Speaker 4: two fifty six in three weeks. Given what we saw

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Speaker 4: this weekend, in particular from Davis and Figuretto in a

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Speaker 4: quick fight, how would you handicap Brandon Moreno's chances?

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Speaker 9: Well, I will tell you this.

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Speaker 10: I felt that Moreno was not being given enough credit

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Speaker 10: last night with his performance. A lot of a lot

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Speaker 10: of the finish was based off the shoulder, but people

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Speaker 10: are kind of not I don't think people were.

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Speaker 9: Really seeing Moreno.

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Speaker 4: Are you talking about social media or commentary or.

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Speaker 10: I will talk about social media. I don't take shots

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Speaker 10: at the commentary.

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Speaker 5: Well no, I'm just curious. Thanks, all right?

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Speaker 9: Fine?

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Speaker 10: Outside of you, Yeah, I think that Joe and I

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Speaker 10: think DC were way too on Roy Vall with everything

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Speaker 10: he was doing instead of praising what Moreno was doing.

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Speaker 10: A lot of it was with Voll's ability to take

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Speaker 10: punishment ability to come back from getting hit to scramble

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Speaker 10: when Moreno was landing, more Moreno was dominating in the scrambles,

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Speaker 10: dominating in the position, and he was holding roy Vall's

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Speaker 10: arm while going for that finish.

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Speaker 9: Now, even if.

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Speaker 10: They popped his shoulder and he came back in, that

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Speaker 10: was still.

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Speaker 9: A phenomenal round for Brandon Moreno.

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Speaker 10: And I think that that you know he did to

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Speaker 10: beat the number eleven guy to maintain your number one status.

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Speaker 10: You don't hear that in any other division. And I

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Speaker 10: kept hearing that a lot as well. And I said

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Speaker 10: in the you know last week's show, I thought Moreno

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Speaker 10: deserved the title shot before Perez based on the competition.

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Speaker 9: He's fought rightfully gets it. I think he's going to

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Speaker 9: be a plus one eighty five here.

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Speaker 10: I think Figuretto what he did last night, minus that

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Speaker 10: cage grab, just finishing guys.

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Speaker 9: He's just different man.

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Speaker 10: Seeing an animal like this. I would have loved to

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Speaker 10: see him vers Demetrius Johnson. I would love to see

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Speaker 10: him fight Henry Shudo. But Moreno's earned this, and Moreno

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Speaker 10: is a wild child as well. He may be that

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00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 10: type of crazy controlled fighter. Then may give Frigarto some

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Speaker 10: some problems we'll see. I mean, it's still hard to

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Speaker 10: pick against this evil villain, but h the dude's a

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Speaker 10: beast and he's done to watch.

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Speaker 4: And I will say, you're gonna listen back to this

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Speaker 4: show and you're gonna hear me put Royvall over because

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Speaker 4: I've seen Brandon Moreno have great rounds in the UFC,

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Speaker 4: and you're right to give him credit. But you know

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Speaker 4: what I've never seen before is a guy getting blasted

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01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 4: trying to pop his shoulder back in right and again

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01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 4: he's right in front of me, writhing in pain, and

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Speaker 4: watching that whole dynamic was certainly what resonated with me.

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Speaker 4: So all respect to the assassin baby Brandon Moreno, but uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, I leaned into the Roy Vall stuff I

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Speaker 4: think on broadcast, and I'm not sure I would I

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Speaker 4: would do it any differently, honestly, if I'm being Hofes,

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Speaker 4: if you.

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Speaker 10: Go watch it back, and I'm not just saying this

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01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 10: because you know I love you to pieces, but you

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01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 10: were not you weren't. You weren't like what DC and

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01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 10: Joe were doing. And that seemed to be the theme

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01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 10: on social media again. It's not knocking who they are.

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Speaker 10: They're phenomenal. They're where they are for a reason. But

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Speaker 10: you know, listen, Yva also fought Tim Elliott, who hasn't

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01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 10: fought for the belt like sixteen years ago, and Kay

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01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 10: car France who hasn't broken in what the top seven

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01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 10: against Moreno, who's fighting top five guys. So listen, that's fair,

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Speaker 10: you know, And that was a great matchup.

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Speaker 9: We all were excited for it. We knew that first

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01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 9: round was exciting.

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01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,439
Speaker 10: I just think that someone in Brandon Moreno right now

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01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 10: needs to get way more credit because he's fighting a

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Speaker 10: guy the US he can lean on and can market

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01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 10: to make that division something special. And I think you

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Speaker 10: have a match up here that I'm excited. This is

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Speaker 10: a main event.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be sick, all right, good point on

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01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 4: which to close. If you want more content from the Duck,

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Speaker 4: and let's be honest, who doesn't at Ian Parker MMA,

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Speaker 4: We'll talk to you next Sunday morning, uh, and get

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Speaker 4: ready for the December fifth show hits keep on coming, buddy,

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Speaker 4: have a great Sunday.

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Speaker 9: You got it, guys, Take it easy, all right?

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Speaker 4: There he is the Duck, Ian Parker with us here

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Speaker 4: on the ANAK and Florian podcast. All right, one thing

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Speaker 4: left to do, Cody Marrow. It is the pick to

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Speaker 4: click with our NFL selections. Cody Marrow has had some misfortune. Okay,

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Speaker 4: people are denigrating you as an NFL capper, right, I

1391
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 4: know you put in the time, but you're three seven

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Speaker 4: and one after another hook loss team annex seven and four.

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Speaker 4: If you've been riding us, you're three units over five hundred. Cody,

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Speaker 4: who do you have for the listeners here in week

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01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 4: whatever the hell it is?

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Speaker 2: Eleven?

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Speaker 7: Well, judging by the grid on Kenny's face, and you

1398
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 7: said that you know whose picks he's playing every Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm not gonna take say you're drunk on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: That's also That's the thing, Kenny.

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Speaker 7: I'm not gonna take this time. I'm not gonna take

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01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 7: this time and say why I'm picking my picks.

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01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 5: I don't think it matters at this point.

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01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 7: I'm taking the Packers plus one and a half because

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01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 7: I don't know why they're underdogs. But I'm gonna take

1406
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 7: this moment to talk to the Antik and Florian podcast Faithful.

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01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 7: I'm gonna talk to the fans, one of which I

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01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 7: used to be Anakin flooran podcast fans, if you or

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01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 7: anyone you know is the add or media sales representative

1410
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 7: for a hard liquor company, please let them know that

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01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 7: I need somebody to sponsor me getting hammered on this

1412
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Speaker 7: podcast to make it more enjoyable. So that's all I'm

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Speaker 7: gonna say with my pick to click Packers plus one

1414
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 7: and a half slide in those dms. If you know anybody,

1415
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 7: I appreciate that, maybe we'll get this guy hopped up

1416
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 7: on howlerhead here in a couple of weeks. I love

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01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 7: the fact that you gave your selection and he didn't

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Speaker 7: even tell the listeners who the Packers are playing, So

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01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 7: if you are curious, they're plus one and a half

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01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 7: at the Indianapolis Colts and game of the week Marquee

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01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 7: game for me and a lot of respects.

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01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 4: So I gave you the Dolphins last week. Pretty easy

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01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 4: winner there. I have thought about this selection. I have

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Speaker 4: researched it, but I will also keep it brief. I'm

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01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 4: giving you the Jacksonville Jaguars plus ten home against the

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01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers. I think it's gonna be hard for Jacksonville

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01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 4: to score the football today, but.

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01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 5: They're already up ten to nothing.

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01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 2: Let's go Jags.

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Speaker 5: That's my pick to click for week eleven.

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01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 4: All right, we got to get on out of here

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01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 4: thanks to our guests, Ray Longo, Ian Parker. Thanks to

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Speaker 4: all of you for indulging us. Don't forget coming up

1434
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 4: next week. Remember the show returns at is every Thursday

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01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 4: night here on the Ankin Floor and podcast YouTube channel.

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Speaker 4: Also on the YouTube front, Kenflow's new page is live,

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Speaker 4: so if you like, if you like men in pajamas

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Speaker 4: and gentle odds at Brazilia jiujit to, that is the

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Speaker 4: page for you and we'll be back next Sunday. We

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01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 4: will recap Curtis Blades and Derek the Blackbeast lewis not

1441
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 4: a lot of love here for the Black Beast on

1442
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 4: that blue plus to sixty five number today, but we'll

1443
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 4: see how he does and what stylistically is a big

1444
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 4: challenge this weekend. We'll recap it with you next Sunday.

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01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 4: Thanks to everybody for listening and watching and subscribing and

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01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 4: telling all your friends and loved ones, and we look

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Speaker 4: forward to doing it again next Sunday. Until then, for

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Speaker 4: Ken Floyd, Cody John Anistance, so long, don't text and dry.

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Speaker 5: Wear a mask You'll let.

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Speaker 3: I'm Royal Oaks. Next time.

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Speaker 1: On Too Many Lawyers, we take on a couple of

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Speaker 1: villains to sort out whether bad stuff is also illegal stuff.

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