WEBVTT - #thisleague UNCUT: Banner night

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<v Speaker 1>The Lakers will hang a banner tonight to commemorate winning

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA's inaugural in season tournament. But should they should

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<v Speaker 1>they hang that banner? The latest as well with Draymond

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<v Speaker 1>Green and his indefinite suspension. The latest with Draymond Green

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<v Speaker 1>and the Warriors and they look Back, and another one

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<v Speaker 1>of last week's major headlines in the NBA game ballgate

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<v Speaker 1>in Milwaukee. We dive into all of that next here

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<v Speaker 1>on This League Uncut. Welcome to this League Uncut and

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<v Speaker 1>rule the twenty four hour NBA news, This news you'll

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Hans, let's go time, work's time, It's so time.

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<v Speaker 1>This League Uncut is underway, in on fire. This should

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<v Speaker 1>be a good one. Hey, everyone, welcome in to the

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<v Speaker 1>latest edition of This League Uncut. Chris Haynes and I

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<v Speaker 1>recording late on Sunday night after a wild week. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tease the end because this crazy social media post

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<v Speaker 1>cross my desk today that featured some Chris Haynes gaudy

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<v Speaker 1>stats from a game. So we're gonna end with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to tease that at the beginning because

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<v Speaker 1>we need some We're gonna need some explanations on that

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<v Speaker 1>but look, so much happened this past week, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to even get to it all. Like

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<v Speaker 1>in Philadelphia we saw Darryl Morey get a contract extension

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<v Speaker 1>through twenty twenty seven to twenty eight. The Sun's Big

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<v Speaker 1>three finally played a game together, but it was only

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<v Speaker 1>one game, and then Bradley Beale goes out of the

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<v Speaker 1>lineup again with an unfortunate ankle twist, and now he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be out a few weeks at least. Cleveland loses both

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<v Speaker 1>Darius Garland and Evan Moe to long term injuries. Luka, Doncic,

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<v Speaker 1>Joel Andbi throwing up crazy stats. December fifteenth has come

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<v Speaker 1>and gone. That means trade season is officially here, and

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<v Speaker 1>I will soon be on my way to Orlando for

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<v Speaker 1>the G League Showcase, and so we will be talking

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<v Speaker 1>more and more about trade matters, I'm sure after I

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<v Speaker 1>hit the ground in Central Florida, because the whole league

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<v Speaker 1>will be not the whole league, but a good amount,

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<v Speaker 1>a very large amount of front office executives from all

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<v Speaker 1>over the league will be at the showcase, which we

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<v Speaker 1>really do see and regard the G League Showcase now

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<v Speaker 1>as the NBA's answer to the winter meetings. Not really

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of deal activity. You can't say that the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of trade action in December and January matches what

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<v Speaker 1>we see in baseball, but in terms of getting the

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<v Speaker 1>whole league in one place and to get face to

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<v Speaker 1>face discussion going, so you know, we'll have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more to come from there. I'm still shocked though, that

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Haynes will not be joining me in Central Florida

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<v Speaker 1>after he and I spent a summer together there in

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<v Speaker 1>the Bubble in twenty twenty. I am going back. Chris

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<v Speaker 1>is not. We'll get to that later too. So among

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<v Speaker 1>the many, many, many news items that surfaced last week

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<v Speaker 1>was official confirmation from the Lakers that they are indeed

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<v Speaker 1>hoisting a banner to the rafters of Crypto dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>Arena to commemorate winning the NBA's inaugural in season tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>And last week we did a pod before that announcement

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<v Speaker 1>and then we did our interview with Magic coach Jamal Moseley.

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<v Speaker 1>So we really haven't had a chance to talk about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris and you and I were together in Dallas for

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<v Speaker 1>the lakers first game after the n Season Tournament, after

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<v Speaker 1>they were crowned NBA Cup champions in Las Vegas, so

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<v Speaker 1>we both had a chance to talk to various people

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<v Speaker 1>with the organization about this, because I like, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to be a pretty noisy thing tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think when the Lakers actually hold this ceremony

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<v Speaker 1>and we see this banner and we reported together, actually

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<v Speaker 1>the banner is going to be different. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a different color than the typical championship banner, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers have said that they're only going to if

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<v Speaker 1>they are fortunate enough to win the n season tournament

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<v Speaker 1>in the future, They're just going to put future years

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<v Speaker 1>on the same banner. So they're clearly trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>this banner look like something different, not to the level

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<v Speaker 1>of a full on championship banner. But I still think

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<v Speaker 1>there will be people screaming that the Lakers shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>doing this. And if I remember right, I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>got that vibe that you you weren't sure yourself if

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers should do this? Am I putting words in

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<v Speaker 1>your mouth? Third? Do I have that right?

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't sure. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty accurate. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>sure they would do it, But I know the league

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<v Speaker 2>really wanted any team who won the Ncason Tournament. I

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<v Speaker 2>know they wanted they wanted the team to do something

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of say that this is a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know the Lakers had a little bit of pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know to what extent, but I know the

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers felt a little bit of pressure to try to

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<v Speaker 2>do something. But Stein, I feel like this was the

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<v Speaker 2>best case scenario for the Lakers because the Lakers, remember

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about this before. The Lakers, Boston Celtics, the

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<v Speaker 2>Miami Heat, those teams, they're trying to win championships. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not about division banners. It's not all about the

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<v Speaker 2>n Season Tournament banner. We're trying to win championships. But

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<v Speaker 2>this does set the precedent, and I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>a This is a great idea. Whoever came up with

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<v Speaker 2>it to put up a banner. It's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the same size. You're gonna be able to tell

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<v Speaker 2>that it is different from the championship banners, right, different colors,

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<v Speaker 2>and then if they win other banners in the future,

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<v Speaker 2>they're just gonna add dates. That is perfect. That way

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<v Speaker 2>is only one banner. Now, Stein, had this been the

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<v Speaker 2>Indiana Pacers who won, they probably would have had a

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<v Speaker 2>one individual, probably big size banner up there. And if

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<v Speaker 2>they won another one, they probably would have put it,

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<v Speaker 2>probably put another banner up there. And so I think

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<v Speaker 2>with Lakers doing this, I think this kind of sets

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<v Speaker 2>precedent because say the Pacers win next season's end season tournament,

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<v Speaker 2>can you really put a full banner up there, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and don't go with the format of adding

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<v Speaker 2>more dates if you win another this is a tournament

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<v Speaker 2>in the future. I think this this kind of sets

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<v Speaker 2>the president, and I think other teams should follow suit

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<v Speaker 2>with this. But it's a great idea. It's not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get too chaotic up there with the Raptors putting all

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<v Speaker 2>these banners up there. It's gonna be one banner and

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<v Speaker 2>you just add in future dates. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>great idea and I think it was a great compromise.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, every team should do whatever they want in my view,

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<v Speaker 1>So look if the.

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers looks putin Stan, I hear what you're saying, every

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<v Speaker 2>team should do what they want. But that looks weak.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks weak. Stan. The Lakers put up a small

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<v Speaker 2>banner and with room to add future dates and then

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<v Speaker 2>another team the next year puts it up in this

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<v Speaker 2>big banner, like you really want a championship, Like, come

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<v Speaker 2>on now, that that looks really weak, that looks really

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<v Speaker 2>weak and uncompetitive, and that doesn't that's not a good look.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just say the Pacers do win it next year,

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<v Speaker 1>or the Grizzlies, or the Suns or the Timberwolves, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a team that has yet to win an NBA championship,

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<v Speaker 1>I would expect them to hang a full fledged banner

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that really is one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>why Adam Silver so badly wanted this tournament. Yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>know that the NBA would love, love, love to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to sell the nd season tournament as a separate

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<v Speaker 1>property to a media partner. That to me is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not going to admit it, but that's ambition number one.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do believe that one of the more pure

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<v Speaker 1>motivations here for the league was to create a second

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<v Speaker 1>prize that Okay, it's not gonna be on par with

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<v Speaker 1>a championship, but it is going to be something teams

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<v Speaker 1>covet and teams want to win because you know, there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of teams out there that are not

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers. And if they win the division title, they're

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<v Speaker 1>proud of that and they're gonna hang that banner. And

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<v Speaker 1>if they just get to the NBA Finals and lose,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to hang a conference championship banner. And if

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<v Speaker 1>they win the NBA Cup, they're gonna hang a banner.

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<v Speaker 1>But see, to me, the Lakers, it would have been

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<v Speaker 1>a huge slap in the league's face if they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do what they've come up with. And I just I

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<v Speaker 1>really I didn't. I never thought that's what would happen

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers. You know, Genie Buss has an excellent relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with Adam Silver, and I just don't think that she would,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, say no, we're not gonna do anything. We're

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<v Speaker 1>just we're gonna have a little pregame clap and that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It's good to me that for this thing

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<v Speaker 1>to have a chance to be what the league wants

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<v Speaker 1>it to be. It's good that the Lakers are taking

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<v Speaker 1>it to this level of seriousness.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, well, the size of a banner is not

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<v Speaker 2>going to derail or diminish the significance of the n

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<v Speaker 2>season tournaments. Don So it's not going to Derail Adam

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<v Speaker 2>Silver for But.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying is there are people out there, and

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<v Speaker 1>you will hear them screaming later tonight that the Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't even put up this banner that they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>put up. We haven't seen it yet with our don't

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<v Speaker 1>I have.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I haven't talked to people and ask them

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<v Speaker 2>this question directly within the Lakers, but just the sets

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<v Speaker 2>that I've gotten, if this was truly up to the

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers with no pressure, I don't think a banner is

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<v Speaker 2>up there. I don't. I really do feel like this

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<v Speaker 2>is the And again I'm saying field, I haven't spoken

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<v Speaker 2>to anybody, just based off of the people I know

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<v Speaker 2>within that organization, the field is that I believe that

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<v Speaker 2>they're just being a good partner. They understand the league

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<v Speaker 2>wants to implement this n season tournament, have it be

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<v Speaker 2>a great package, you know, TV rights and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're they're they're they're they're being a good partner.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what's happening. And I don't think just

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<v Speaker 2>because a banner is smaller or it sets the Lakers

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<v Speaker 2>are set setting the precedent. I don't think that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to derail Adam Silver from being able to add a

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<v Speaker 2>add that package into the new TV rights deal. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I do, I do. I like the idea,

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<v Speaker 2>I really do, And I still again, I'm not stin

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<v Speaker 2>these last twenty something years we're been in the participation trophy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what That's what we've been in the last twenty

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<v Speaker 2>so years, participation trophy. And I'm not putting this n

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<v Speaker 2>Season Tournament in that field. What I am saying was,

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<v Speaker 2>when you were a champion, you're the champion you are.

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<v Speaker 2>You've won the highest award within your league, within your competition.

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<v Speaker 2>That should always be held in high regard, period high regard.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me ask you a question. Stan, say the

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<v Speaker 2>Memphis Grizzlies won the n Season Tournament. Okay, they won

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<v Speaker 2>n Season Tournament and then they just completely just bomb

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the year, the rest of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>They are ten and seventy two. Would they consider that

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<v Speaker 2>or would you or anybody else consider their season to

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<v Speaker 2>be a success.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but I do think it's banner worthy. Now, should

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<v Speaker 1>they get rings?

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<v Speaker 2>Should?

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<v Speaker 1>Should they get rings? No? Should they have a parade? No?

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<v Speaker 1>But should you hoist a banner for winning the NBA Cup?

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<v Speaker 1>If the NBA Cup is going to become what the

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<v Speaker 1>league wants it to become, which is the second biggest

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<v Speaker 1>prize available to its thirty teams and eventually thirty two teams,

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<v Speaker 1>if and when we get the expansion that we expect,

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<v Speaker 1>If the NBA Cup is ever going to be that,

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<v Speaker 1>it has to at least be banner worthy.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, it is bannerworthy, just not the same size

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<v Speaker 2>as the real championship banners. That's all. Is banner worthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look, we don't know. We don't know how the

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<v Speaker 1>next champion will treat it. Sorry, Ryan three two one.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know yet how the next champion will treat it.

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<v Speaker 1>But that will be a fun thing to see because,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, had the Pacers won this, you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's all speculative because they have not given a definitive

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<v Speaker 1>statement on it, even though I tried to get one

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<v Speaker 1>when I had Rick Carlisle on my radio show the

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<v Speaker 1>morning of the n Season Tournament championship game in Vegas,

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<v Speaker 1>but he wouldn't play ball with me on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>You we'll see how the next champion handles it. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Indiana Pacers who've won three ABA titles

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<v Speaker 1>but none in the NBA. I suspect they would have

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<v Speaker 1>hung a pretty prominent and easy to spot banner in

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<v Speaker 1>their fieldhouse. But you know, we're gonna have to wait

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<v Speaker 1>a year to see how that goes. But like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm really interested to see Monday night, what the

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<v Speaker 1>online reaction is, what the end the building reaction is,

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<v Speaker 1>how the players reactors again, no rings. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a pregame ceremony or halftime ceremony, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how excited Lebron and Ad will be.

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<v Speaker 1>But look I did get you know, I did have

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<v Speaker 1>a chance. I asked Darvin Ham and I asked Anthony Davis,

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<v Speaker 1>and they both said they were very glad that a

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<v Speaker 1>banner of some sort is going up. So were they

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, were they just being gentlemen? We'll find out.

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<v Speaker 2>Stin, I want to see the placement while the Laker's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna tuck it like in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Corner underneath underneath.

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<v Speaker 2>Placement is important, So I want to see what A're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna position this batter here and the Clippers again, that's

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<v Speaker 2>just one more thing for them to you know, hi,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what it's time for them, you know, what

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<v Speaker 2>it's time for them to be the home court resident.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just another poster they got to ask. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you make me we should send.

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<v Speaker 1>We should send for since since Producer Ryan is in

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<v Speaker 1>the greater Los Angeles area, we should really send him

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<v Speaker 1>to the game as our representative to take some notes

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<v Speaker 1>and get get good answers to all these questions.

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<v Speaker 2>That will require Producer Ryan to go straight from his

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<v Speaker 2>job with the working with the cow herd the man himself,

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<v Speaker 2>and going straight to the arena. That's that's given him overtime.

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan works too hard, he has too much on his play.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't we cannot ask him to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's not so gracefully shift gears here to

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<v Speaker 1>what was the story of the week. Amid all those

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<v Speaker 1>things that I've already listed, and I even forgot as

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<v Speaker 1>I was going through the list of crazy stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>happened last week, you know, we also had Jalen Brunson

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<v Speaker 1>going to Phoenix and putting up a fifty point performance,

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<v Speaker 1>the first fifty point game of his career, as Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>Brunson makes his bid to break through in the East

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<v Speaker 1>and earn his first All Star appearance. However, the Draymond

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<v Speaker 1>Green suspension and indefinite suspension, it really looms and lords

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<v Speaker 1>over the entire league. When the suspension was announced last

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday night, the Warriors had nine games left in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three. The league is calling this an indefinite suspension.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing it on purpose. They're trying to get us

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<v Speaker 1>away from trying to focus on how many games it

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<v Speaker 1>will last. And this approach, to some degree, certainly mutes

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<v Speaker 1>the discussion about is it too long, is it too short?

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of quiets down that smoldery reaction that would

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<v Speaker 1>have happened Thursday morning no matter what they announced. But look,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my unofficial forecast. I want to stress unofficial,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, the league is insisting that it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have any kind of timescale. There's no secret timetable, that

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not withholding from us. But I just have

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<v Speaker 1>to think it's hard for me to imagine that we

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<v Speaker 1>would see Draymond Green back on the floor before twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four. Again, there were nine games left in this

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<v Speaker 1>calendar year when the suspension was announced. Just to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got to be at least ten games to have

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<v Speaker 1>any real validity and credibility in terms of trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get Draymond Green away from the daily madness, to try

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<v Speaker 1>to move on from this thing and just comport himself

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<v Speaker 1>in a much better manner. And you know, ten games

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<v Speaker 1>would be double what we saw for the choke hold

0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.919
<v Speaker 1>that he applied to Minnesota is Rudy Gobert. But let

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<v Speaker 1>me ask you, the Chris Haynes view, look into your

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<v Speaker 1>crystal ball and tell me what you think. How soon

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<v Speaker 1>or not so soon do you think it will be

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<v Speaker 1>before we see Draymond Green back for the Warriors.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you made a very astute point there when

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<v Speaker 2>you said that the NBA made its decision but and

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<v Speaker 2>called it indefinitely. Calling him out indefinitely, it cleared them

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<v Speaker 2>of any reaction, any backlash, good or bad. It cleared

0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:40.639
<v Speaker 2>them of that matter of fact. Now it postponed it.

0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.400
<v Speaker 2>It postponed it. It's a delay. It's going to come.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think so say say in their minds ten

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<v Speaker 2>games is the amount of games that they want him out,

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<v Speaker 2>But they don't want to come out and say that

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<v Speaker 2>publicly right now, because again, there would be some backlash.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people might say it it's not enough. Could

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<v Speaker 2>if you consider his history, but say ten games is

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<v Speaker 2>the number they have in mind. So I think the

0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:12.040
<v Speaker 2>the longer this plays out. So you let these games

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<v Speaker 2>go by, let these games go by, and the Warriors

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<v Speaker 2>they are struggling, they are struggling. The Warriors are they're

0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.040
<v Speaker 2>they're they're in. You know, it's it's not looking good.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, when you're struggling and these games kind

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<v Speaker 2>of go by, it seems longer than what it really

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<v Speaker 2>is because you're just going through so much hell, losing,

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<v Speaker 2>losing in different ways, different fashion. So I think around

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<v Speaker 2>the game eight, nine or ten, say, if the Warriors

0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:50.800
<v Speaker 2>are struggling, and it's just been the commentary about them

0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:54.840
<v Speaker 2>struggling and the need to have Draymond, they really need Draymond,

0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:57.280
<v Speaker 2>they really need Draymond. Then you get to the point

0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:01.359
<v Speaker 2>where fans from other teams are starting to say, man, dang,

0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Dremond has been going a wild the Warriors have lost

0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:07.520
<v Speaker 2>seven in a row, you know, something like that. Then

0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:10.720
<v Speaker 2>I think they could kind of read the room talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the league. They can read the room and say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, if he's if we let him back now,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think it will be okay because everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>seeing the Warriors struggling. It seems like it's been a

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<v Speaker 2>long time. I think we'll be better off letting them

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<v Speaker 2>play right now. So I don't know if that's what

0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:36.000
<v Speaker 2>they're doing, but I know I really just feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with with Adam Silver being in in charge,

0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:42.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, David David Stern, you know, he was he

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<v Speaker 2>was hard with the punishment, and I think people at

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<v Speaker 2>being a little bit confused just with the consistency of suspensions,

0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:56.359
<v Speaker 2>the amount that is and uh that that's that's something

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, I think Adam Silver Joe do more

0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.000
<v Speaker 2>as that's that they would have to answer to because

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, like are they going

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<v Speaker 2>to release I don't believe they're gonna do this unless

0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:12.679
<v Speaker 2>it leaks from Draymond's side. But what is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a list of requirements to complete in order to

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<v Speaker 2>get back on on task? I was gonna get back

0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:22.040
<v Speaker 2>on the court. I was told that Draymond will still

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<v Speaker 2>be allowed to practice with the Warriors during this time.

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<v Speaker 2>Will the Warriors say no, Draymond, stay away, go get go,

0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:33.240
<v Speaker 2>get your work done first. I don't know. I don't

0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:36.320
<v Speaker 2>think Steve Currz addressed that, but I don't know Star.

0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:39.359
<v Speaker 2>It's uh, it's puzzled a little bit. I see what.

0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I see why they did it, but uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't know. He's not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>back before twenty twenty four for sure. That's that's the

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<v Speaker 2>only thing I do know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And look, it's just you know, how much even

0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:57.840
<v Speaker 1>if he is away ten games, even if he is

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<v Speaker 1>away fifteen games, how realistic is it for Draymond Green

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<v Speaker 1>to change when Draymond Green has repeatedly told us he

0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:09.719
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to change and this is who he is,

0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:14.080
<v Speaker 1>and he's insistent that he knows how to manage himself.

0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:16.600
<v Speaker 1>But look, I think it's pretty clear if you've listened

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<v Speaker 1>to this show that I mean, you know, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>Draymond Green fan. I really hope he can figure this out,

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<v Speaker 1>and when we do see him back on the floor

0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:33.760
<v Speaker 1>that he has, you know, more of an ability like

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<v Speaker 1>again to change. I mean, is he really going to change?

0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:40.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's possible. Can he can he

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<v Speaker 1>walk his own personal in game tightrope better than he has?

0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I hope so for his sake, because I just feel

0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:52.679
<v Speaker 1>like at this point he's damaging his legacy. Yo, whether

0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:55.800
<v Speaker 1>you are a Draymond Green fan or not, there is

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<v Speaker 1>no denying that he has been an absolutely rev illusionary

0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:08.720
<v Speaker 1>defensive player and one of the greatest keys to small

0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:12.679
<v Speaker 1>ball success. As a small ball practitioner for the Warriors,

0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:17.119
<v Speaker 1>he's been revolutionary with the stuff he can do offensively

0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:22.240
<v Speaker 1>and defensively. And the reality is, so much has happened

0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:25.879
<v Speaker 1>in this last year, starting with the Jordan Poole punch,

0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:30.199
<v Speaker 1>and then the soccer style stamp on Demonte Sabonis, and

0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:33.320
<v Speaker 1>then the choke hold on Rudy Gobert and now this

0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:38.159
<v Speaker 1>incident with Yusuf Nurkic. Nobody's talking about his winning qualities,

0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:43.200
<v Speaker 1>nobody's talking about the ways he's changed the game. It's

0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:49.160
<v Speaker 1>gotten to know the Draymond Green transgressions in the last year,

0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:53.720
<v Speaker 1>they've gotten to an untenable place. And the Warriors, Stephen Curry,

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Steve Kerr, others in the organization have always backed him,

0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:01.160
<v Speaker 1>and the reason is because he's been an integral part

0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:05.880
<v Speaker 1>of four, not one, four championship teams. Steve Kerr will

0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:08.600
<v Speaker 1>tell you over and over the Warriors don't win any

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:14.119
<v Speaker 1>of their titles without him. But he's gotta now figure

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:20.960
<v Speaker 1>out a way to stay on the floor and not

0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:23.520
<v Speaker 1>get involved in these situations. I mean, these are these

0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:26.760
<v Speaker 1>are more than this is more than technical fouls and

0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:30.280
<v Speaker 1>flagrant fouls. These are you know, this last year it's

0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 1>just been way too much.

0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:34.520
<v Speaker 2>And again, you know, I talk about consistency from the league.

0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Remember Draymond Green was not officially penalized for punching his

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:46.160
<v Speaker 2>teammate last year. He was not suspended by the league,

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:49.359
<v Speaker 2>and you can make the case that that incident was

0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 2>probably the most brutal of all the incidents. He took

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:57.200
<v Speaker 2>a few weeks off from practice. I believe you missed

0:24:57.200 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 2>what missed some preseason games, but he was there available

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:06.119
<v Speaker 2>before open at night to receive his reign. So you

0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Speaker 2>know how, I don't.

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how that's that's the Warriors culpability in this.

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:13.639
<v Speaker 1>They he can't you know they that punishment was like

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:14.399
<v Speaker 1>a week or so.

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:20.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But should the league have stepped in an issue

0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:20.760
<v Speaker 2>the punishment?

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:26.480
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting, I wonder, you know, and the next time

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:29.879
<v Speaker 1>we get with Adam Silver, I hope someone asked that

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 1>question because the league. No, you have to wonder does

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:38.439
<v Speaker 1>the league now regret not doing more then? Because what

0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 1>we've seen since it again, it's just too much. And

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:48.159
<v Speaker 1>you know you mentioned the Warriors struggling as you and

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:50.439
<v Speaker 1>I are recording this, they are trying to hang on

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:53.200
<v Speaker 1>and put this game away in Portland, which would give

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>them a second straight win, a badly needed second straight

0:25:57.840 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 1>win to get to twelve and fourteen. But now with

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Draymond Green out of the lineup for X amount of time,

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.960
<v Speaker 1>we don't know how much longer, but he's already missed.

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:10.159
<v Speaker 1>This is the seventh game this season he will have

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:14.439
<v Speaker 1>missed through suspension, and he's been ejected three times, so

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:18.159
<v Speaker 1>there's been a lot of unavailability, and it just the

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:21.679
<v Speaker 1>question just keeps coming up. Now, is this it? Is

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 1>it over? Is the dynasty officially over? Do we dare

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:29.720
<v Speaker 1>make that declaration? Now? I think a lot of people

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:33.359
<v Speaker 1>in our business have been afraid to do it because

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 1>it was just eighteen or so months ago that the

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Warriors went on title run number four, when none of

0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 1>us know it all is we're forecasting that. But you

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:47.879
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm not personally, I don't find myself so

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:51.320
<v Speaker 1>hung up on the is it over question? Because it's

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be over. This is this is year ten.

0:26:55.680 --> 0:27:00.680
<v Speaker 1>If we start the clock with that first Champmionship team

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 1>in twenty fourteen, fifteen, and like it's not supposed to

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 1>go for a decade, and there's so much discussion, how

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 1>about what should the Warriors do? What trade should they make?

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 1>They're not one trade away from fixing this team, because

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Draymond Green is just one of the many problems that

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 1>the Warriors are looking at right now. And you know,

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 1>for all to talk about Draymond and his availability and

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:30.959
<v Speaker 1>all the talk about Klay Thompson's early struggles, you know,

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:34.879
<v Speaker 1>the Andrew Wiggins regression, the Andrew Wiggins situation. To me,

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:38.440
<v Speaker 1>that might actually be Golden State's foremost problem at this

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 1>point because here's Wiggins twenty eight in year one of

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 1>a four year, one hundred and nine million dollar contract

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>that he got because he was such a difference maker

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:53.879
<v Speaker 1>in that title run two seasons ago, and he's just

0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:56.159
<v Speaker 1>been benched. He's out of the starting lineup now. So

0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean they are I mean in their current state.

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 1>To me, they are not a trade away from being

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:06.880
<v Speaker 1>back among the Western Conference elite. They got a zillion

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 1>things to figure out in the Bay Area. So getting

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 1>Draymond Green back, that's that's just one thing to me

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:17.439
<v Speaker 1>on a long to do list. Now, this story that

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 1>we move on to is of a far more frivolous nature.

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:27.159
<v Speaker 1>But man, this is another story that got NBA Twitter superheated.

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>And look, I'm still confused by exactly what happened. I

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:37.959
<v Speaker 1>don't know which I still don't know which ball Jannis

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 1>Antetokumpo has in his possession. But he scores sixty four

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>points at home against the Pacers. Thirty two trips to

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 1>the line in that game. No threes for Yannis in

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 1>that game. I think you got to go back. C

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>got almost twenty five years for a player to score

0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>sixty without a three. I think I think Shaq was

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 1>the last one to do it, and it was forever ago.

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 1>But I think most people probably know the story. You know,

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Jannie went ballistic after the game because he thought the

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Pacers swiped the game ball. And I know that well,

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 1>no one I know knows the Bucks as well as you.

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 1>So I'm just gonna turn it over to you and

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>ask you. Now that we're removed from this by a

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>couple of days. And by the way, the Warriors did

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 1>hang on and get that win in Portland, their second

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 1>straight win to go to twelve and fourteen. But now

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>that we're a little bit removed from game Ballgate as

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 1>people are calling it, what can you explain this whole

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Yannis Pacers thing? These I think the only one thing

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 1>I do know these which this part's nice. These teams

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 1>do not like each other.

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I like. That's the point. I like

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 2>the fact that they don't like each other. That would

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 2>be a really good and entertaining series should they meet

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs. But stan Stein, go and say, before

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 2>I jump in with what I think people are missing

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:08.479
<v Speaker 2>from the gate with this whatever you want to call

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 2>this ballgate, explain what Carl Carlis said, Explain his rationale

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 2>or reasoning for taking the ball. Then I will jump

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 2>in with what I think people are completely missing from

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 2>all of this.

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 1>All right, So, based on what I could gather in

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>full candor, I have to say that I have not

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>studied this all as closely as some I know worldwide.

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Wobb did one of his famous what does he call

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 1>him web investigations with video, and my fellow substacker Scott Agnes,

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 1>had a great story on his substack Fieldhouse Files about

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>how all the balls have numbers and so it should

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 1>be easy to figure out which one Yiannis had. But

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>basically the game ends and it looked like a Bucks

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 1>official grabbed the game ball, but the Bucks were saying

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 1>the Pacers had it, and Rick Carlile after the game

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>came out and said, no, we were not trying to

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 1>keep the ball away. We were not trying to keep

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 1>the game ball away from Janis Antetokumpo after he had

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 1>just scored a career high sixty four points. No, the

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Pacers claim was that they were simply trying to get

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the game ball because PACER's rookie Oscar shebwe recorded his

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>first NBA point from the free throw line in the

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>same game. So Rick Carlyle went to the podium and said,

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 1>there was no malice intended towards Giannis. The Pacers simply

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>wanted to get the ball for Oscar Shebweh. And again,

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 1>like I said, when you watch the video, it's it

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 1>sure looks like it's a Bucks official who had the

0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>ball first. And we know there are at least two

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 1>game balls for every game. And then Giannis came out

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 1>and said he has a game ball, but he's not

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>sure if it's the one that he actually scored all

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 1>the points within the second half because it quote feels

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 1>different to him. So, like I said, I've done enough talking.

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Please shed some Chris Hayneses clarity on this because I'm

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>still confused.

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Man. Okay, let's talk about the game ball. First of all,

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 2>there's only one game ball, and there are usually two

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 2>reserve balls in case the game ball gets damaged, it

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 2>gets wet. Then you go to the scores today. They

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 2>usually keep these other two balls behind the scorers table.

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 2>But there's only one game ball unless another ball actually

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 2>gets on the court and it's played. So it's only

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 2>one game ball, period. That's it. I want to just

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 2>clarify that. The other thing that I think people are

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 2>missing from this whole thing. And I understand what Carl,

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I understand what the Pacers we're doing, and I respect

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 2>their pettiness. I really do. I respect their pettiness.

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>So you're not.

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, not at all, not at all. What

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 2>really happened was they were ticked off that the Bucks

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 2>left Giannis in the game to get that sixty four brick.

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Carliut pulled his starters around a five minute mark. I

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 2>think it was closer to the six minute mark. And

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 2>the Bucks, you know, left their starters in. And it

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 2>wasn't like they left their starters in to just play, No,

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 2>they left their starters in to get Giannis more points.

0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Nobody else was shooting the ball. That's what the Pacers

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 2>had a problem with. Now, when coach Griffin did pull

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 2>he eventually did pull his starters out, and the Pacers

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 2>bench made a run and which caused Giannis and everybody

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 2>else to get back in there to make sure they

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 2>officially closed it. But the main problem, main issue was

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 2>that they had with the Bucks were that they kept

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 2>their starters in a little bit too long. That's why

0:33:56.600 --> 0:34:00.120
<v Speaker 2>that's why we had this whole post game drop. But

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 2>that's why we had that. It was not to get

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Oscar his his you know, I went so so stein,

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm I'm I'm putting the news out as

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 2>I as I get it live that night, you know

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. Like I'm tweeting, I'm tweeting all the

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 2>updates I'm getting. I'm getting quotes from what the coaches

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 2>were telling the players about why they're keeping this ball

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:28.879
<v Speaker 2>and they were and you know, and I was told

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:32.839
<v Speaker 2>this was before rook Carlile said it publicly, but I

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:36.399
<v Speaker 2>was told the Pacers were saying like they're they're they're

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 2>keeping the ball because their rookie scored his first basket,

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 2>and that's all the information I had. So stein, I'm

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 2>getting on my laptop quick, like okay, who's this rookie?

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Who's this rookie? And I'm looking and I'm like, okay,

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 2>I see one rookie, but he didn't score phield goal

0:34:55.480 --> 0:35:00.120
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, he scored one free throw. I'm like this,

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:02.359
<v Speaker 2>this is the rookie they talking about because they never

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 2>gave me a name, and so I started looking at

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:08.720
<v Speaker 2>the rookies game log and then I noticed I'm like, well,

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 2>this can't be true because this rookie scored one free

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 2>throw again against the Lakers in the ND Season Tournament

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:19.879
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, this can't be true. Like this don't

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:22.320
<v Speaker 2>make sense, you know what I mean. Then I realized, okay,

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 2>hold on, that N Season Tournament championship game did not

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:30.279
<v Speaker 2>count towards the stats, towards the regular season stats, and

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:32.759
<v Speaker 2>so I was kind of hesitant on even putting the

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Oscar's name out there because I'm just like, this cannot

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:38.959
<v Speaker 2>be the line that they're using, right, now, but they did,

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, minutes later, you know, I put my report

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 2>out and then Carlos a few minutes later came out

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:47.840
<v Speaker 2>and said it publicly. You know, they were indeed trying

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 2>to give the ball to Oscar, who made one free throw.

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 2>But again, the whole reason why they went down this

0:35:56.960 --> 0:36:00.719
<v Speaker 2>hole because they didn't approve of how to Buck handled

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 2>the minute distribution down the stretch of the game, a

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 2>game in which the Bucks. They felt like the Bucks

0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 2>clearly had the game one. That is what people are missing.

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:16.719
<v Speaker 2>It's not about Oscar, it's not about Yannis. Well, it

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 2>is about Yiannis. But you know, they did not like

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 2>the way Adrian Griffin kept his starters here. They felt

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 2>like the Asian Griffin kept his starters in there too

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:29.319
<v Speaker 2>long and which disrespected them. So in return, they were

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:32.720
<v Speaker 2>gonna disrespect them back. And that was the most petty

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:36.319
<v Speaker 2>way to do it. You're in bill Waukee and you say,

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:40.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take the ball away from the guy who

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 2>just scored a franchise record sixty four points. But this

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 2>is something we always do in Indiana. I'm not gonna

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 2>go give it to somebody a rookie who scored his

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 2>first basket. I'm going to give it to a rookie

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:55.479
<v Speaker 2>who made one free throw. That's what he did.

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Can I ask the person, can I ask a personal

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:00.719
<v Speaker 1>selfish favor. Now that we're a few days move from this,

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:06.799
<v Speaker 1>can you check with your extensive network of bucks sources

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 1>and find out, like, so, is Giannis andy clear? Does

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:15.319
<v Speaker 1>he have? Does he have what? Or? No? Maybe the

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 1>better question which ball does he have? The Scott Agnes

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>story on Fieldhouse Files says that all of these balls

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>have a serial number on it, so we should be

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:29.280
<v Speaker 1>able to figure out which which one Yiannis actually has. Okay,

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:30.880
<v Speaker 1>that's what I want to note.

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you right now and later on I'll

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 2>tell a story about this. If you give me forty

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 2>five seconds. I have a NBA Finals game ball in

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:46.399
<v Speaker 2>my closet. This is the game ball from the Warriors Raptors. Now,

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 2>when I say game ball, remember I tell tell people

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 2>there there are usually two reserved balls behind the scores table,

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 2>just in case the game ball gets damaged somehow. So

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 2>I have one of those balls. I have one of

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:02.439
<v Speaker 2>those two balls.

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Which is story and which is a story.

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 2>It is a story in itself, and I you know, and.

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I got to see you're saving that one for the

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:09.800
<v Speaker 1>book though, right.

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 2>No, no, I don't know. I don't know if that'll

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 2>make the book. That might be that might be of

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 2>this league uncut why not they want to hear it.

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 2>But I have one of I have one of the balls,

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 2>and so let me go get it. Give me forty

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:23.319
<v Speaker 2>five seconds. I want to see if it has a

0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 2>serial number. But one more thing I want to.

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Add before I know the problem is.

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:31.240
<v Speaker 2>That that's that's the same that that was the last

0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:33.880
<v Speaker 2>I believe that was the last year they used as Spalding.

0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 2>But shouldn't it still? Yeah? It should It's okay, give

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:45.799
<v Speaker 2>me forty five seconds. So stein as you see here

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:52.279
<v Speaker 2>NBA official official game ball the NBA, and you see

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 2>right there it has two thousand, twenty nineteen NBA Finals

0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 2>subscribed on the basketball. Again, this is one of the

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:03.359
<v Speaker 2>three well excuse me, this is one of the two

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 2>NBA reserve balls that they keep behind the scores table

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:11.359
<v Speaker 2>just in case the official just in case the game

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:13.800
<v Speaker 2>ball gets damaged somehow during the course of the game.

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 2>So now let's look on. I'm looking on this bad boy,

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking all around. I do not see I do

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 2>not see any numbers at all on this basketball. This

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 2>is twenty nineteen. I'm looking all around stein, no serial code, nothing.

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, maybe it's a new policy that started when Wilson

0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 1>took over.

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that could be a possibility. This is a Spaulding.

0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:51.320
<v Speaker 2>I believe this was the last year that a Spaulding

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 2>ball was the official game ball. Again, this was the

0:39:55.520 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen NBA Finals Golden State Warriors Toronto Raptors. The

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:05.720
<v Speaker 2>actually the last game when Toronto won and Golden State

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 2>whatever game that was? So yes, six game six yep.

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:16.240
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, nothing, no numbers on this basketball. But again,

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 2>there's only one game ball. Now, if they ended up

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:24.919
<v Speaker 2>giving Oscar another ball, it's not the game ball, it's

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 2>the reserve ball. There's a difference. Game ball is the

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:31.279
<v Speaker 2>ball you played with during the course of the game.

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 2>But again, I think that was just the boat that

0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:37.360
<v Speaker 2>was completely missed. It wasn't about Oscar, it wasn't about Giannis.

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 2>It was about the Bucks feeling like the Bucks kept

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:43.240
<v Speaker 2>their starters in too long.

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, as you mentioned earlier, it'd be great to see

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:50.400
<v Speaker 1>these teams meet up in the playoffs. They will play

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:53.919
<v Speaker 1>a two game baseball series to start twenty twenty four

0:40:54.040 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>January first and January third, two Pacer Bucks rematches in

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:05.160
<v Speaker 1>a row, And like I said, I hope that. I

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:07.280
<v Speaker 1>hope we can figure out And man, this is crazy

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:10.920
<v Speaker 1>that that Warriors Blazers game I mentioned the first time

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 1>in two hundred and sixty nine games. Mm hmm, Stephan

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:19.359
<v Speaker 1>Curry does not sink a three pointer. Oh for eight

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 1>for Steph on threes as we're recording on this Sunday night.

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 1>But the Warriors managed to pull out their second straight

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 1>win regardless. But yeah, like I would love if again,

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 1>if I can dial in this personal favor that you

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of check back with these guys one more time

0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 1>to find out, like which what which bald with a

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:44.120
<v Speaker 1>little bit of distance in time, which bald does Giannis

0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:46.799
<v Speaker 1>actually think he has? He said he was gonna give

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 1>it to his mom. So which bal did he give

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:49.759
<v Speaker 1>to his mom? Yeah?

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 2>He said didn't feel like the game ball, That's what

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 2>he said. Was last one. He said, I played with

0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:57.560
<v Speaker 2>thirty thirty five minutes. I know what a ball a

0:41:57.640 --> 0:41:59.479
<v Speaker 2>ball feels like if you've been playing with that ball

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 2>for that that amount of.

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:02.799
<v Speaker 1>Time, especially when you take thirty two free throws.

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know he holds on to the ball

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 2>a long time. With free throws, he would well a.

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Week, what a week this was. There's a reason we

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:22.279
<v Speaker 1>call it hashtag this league. You know what. We're going

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:26.320
<v Speaker 1>to end on an even lighter note than game Ballgate,

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 1>although this also I do want to seek some explanation

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:36.439
<v Speaker 1>and clarification justification from you, because I'm still not even

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:39.240
<v Speaker 1>sure how this blipped onto my radar. But I'm looking

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 1>at a social media post from the TUMACBO Rec League

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:46.839
<v Speaker 1>in Sacramento, and this post, which is actually very well done,

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:49.719
<v Speaker 1>a very nice post. Got a team picture here and

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:56.200
<v Speaker 1>it says player of the game twenty seven points, seven dimes,

0:42:56.880 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 1>thirteen rebounds, Chris Haynes. This apparently happened today, eighty nine

0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 1>seventy seven win. And yeah, I guess, I guess. You know,

0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Producer Ryan I think is trying to connect with the

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Elias Sports Bureau right now to see where this ranks

0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:19.360
<v Speaker 1>in terms of career achievements for you. But you really,

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:21.720
<v Speaker 1>so you really went for twenty seven, seven and thirteen

0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 1>in this rec league game today?

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 2>With this today, well probably this was yesterday. We'll probably

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 2>have to call another participant total. I'll make it one call.

0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Let me, let me make this call on air. Hold on,

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:35.759
<v Speaker 2>let me make this one call to get this to

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:44.360
<v Speaker 2>get this right here, Mike, I got you on you

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:46.799
<v Speaker 2>on my podcast. You're live on my podcast right now.

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 2>So my my, my whole, my podcast host, my co

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 2>host Mark Stein. He somehow, I don't know how he

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:58.440
<v Speaker 2>got a hold of it, but he got a hold of,

0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 2>uh my latest game stats from my last game yesterday

0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:06.760
<v Speaker 2>in the league. My stat line says twenty seven points,

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 2>seven assists, thirteen rebounds, and he wants to know if

0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 2>these stats are manufactured. Mike, So can you please answer him?

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Manufactured?

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 2>In what way? All these fake stats? Mike? Oh no, no, no,

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 2>they're not fake.

0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, he was killing.

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:25.800
<v Speaker 2>He's laughing.

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 1>He's laughing.

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, but I appreciate you set the record straight.

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:35.000
<v Speaker 2>First of all, give give you give me your ig

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 2>handle again. He makes he does pop up shots. Make

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 2>some of the best Filipino food and Sacramento in the

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Bay Area. Give me a shout out, Mike, Mike j

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 2>underscore a dobo king.

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, appreciate you, bro, Thanks for the info. Mike.

0:44:49.280 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 2>All right, thanks man, there you have it, Stein, no

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:55.520
<v Speaker 2>fake news here. This is a Filipino league. So I

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:59.200
<v Speaker 2>appreciate my Filipino brothers allow me to join their league

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:03.239
<v Speaker 2>and we have every Saturday. And with this win yesterday,

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 2>we advanced to the final four, which will happen next Saturday.

0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 2>So if we win our tam.

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Wait it says your team is one in five, this

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:12.279
<v Speaker 1>was your first win.

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 2>But I have explanation. I have explanation, have explanation for you.

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:19.319
<v Speaker 2>So this graphic shows that we're one and five and

0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 2>we beat a team that's four and two. I missed

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 2>the last three games because I was out of town,

0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:30.239
<v Speaker 2>but there was a couple of games as well that

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 2>were canceled because the gym that we use had a

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:39.239
<v Speaker 2>leak in it. So they just they kind of scrapped

0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:41.919
<v Speaker 2>the last few games of the regular season and say, hey,

0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 2>these games, these last three games are going to matter,

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:47.880
<v Speaker 2>and so we were able to get a few wins

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:51.560
<v Speaker 2>when it really mattered. Now we're in the final four.

0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 2>And yes, and I told you, Stein, I don't play

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:58.040
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to my stats. This is a post.

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:02.520
<v Speaker 2>This is a social media graphic from the commissioner of

0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 2>this great Filipino League himself, and he creates this every

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:08.040
<v Speaker 2>week and has a player of the game have their stats,

0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:11.000
<v Speaker 2>and they they take you know, they keep track of everything. Man,

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:13.759
<v Speaker 2>it's really impressive. We got jerseys, you see, we all

0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:16.480
<v Speaker 2>got jersey with our name on the back. You know,

0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm only brother. It's about two of us, man, Yeah,

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm no. Three. There's three brothers in this whole league.

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 2>It's an eight team league. Three brothers in this whole.

0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Why are you number fifteen? Why do you wear fifteen? Story?

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Great? Great, great, that's a great question. Stein. So Stein,

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:35.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm in this league on Saturday, and I'm in another

0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:38.440
<v Speaker 2>league on Sundays. This is an adult league like thirty

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 2>and up, and that Sunday league. I wear eight this league.

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:46.680
<v Speaker 2>What do you gotta wear fifteen? Growing up, my favorite

0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:50.920
<v Speaker 2>player was Latrelle's free will. He wore number fifteen for

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:54.839
<v Speaker 2>the Golden State Warriors, and he wore eight with the

0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:57.800
<v Speaker 2>New York Knicks. So eight and fifteen growing up was

0:46:57.840 --> 0:46:58.920
<v Speaker 2>always my favorite numbers.

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:02.120
<v Speaker 1>That is good. Did you get to where it? Did

0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 1>you get to wear either fifteen or eight in college?

0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 2>No? I couldn't. The best players got to wear those numbers.

0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 2>No I had. I had forty four and like forty two.

0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:15.320
<v Speaker 2>I had those high numbers here, high numbers in high school,

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 2>in college, so though I didn't get to let bra water.

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:20.080
<v Speaker 2>But Stean, I was telling you, Man, I was telling

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:21.520
<v Speaker 2>you this whole time.

0:47:21.560 --> 0:47:23.880
<v Speaker 1>More equals eight and four times too equals eight? Is

0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:24.440
<v Speaker 1>that why you had?

0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:27.520
<v Speaker 2>That's the There you go, star, you did the math

0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:30.400
<v Speaker 2>if it works. But Stian I was telling you. I

0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:34.840
<v Speaker 2>was telling producer Ryan how I've been. I've been killing

0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:37.040
<v Speaker 2>in these leagues. I've been telling you, and you thought

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:39.640
<v Speaker 2>I was lying. You thought, Oh, I told you I'm

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 2>in pretty good shape. I go Stein, I cook out there.

0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:45.120
<v Speaker 2>And this post doesn't prove.

0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 1>This post doesn't have a field goal attempts, so we

0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know how you actually shot it to get those

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:50.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven.

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Stott, you see, you see, you see, you see my

0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:56.120
<v Speaker 2>height compared to my teammates.

0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Stein was a highly What you're saying is you were

0:47:59.800 --> 0:48:03.680
<v Speaker 1>this as a highly efficient twenty seven Exactly what I'm saying.

0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:06.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't need I don't need thirty shots to get

0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:08.520
<v Speaker 2>twenty seven points in this league style. You know, I

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:11.399
<v Speaker 2>just need some help. I need help, and I think

0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 2>I got the help. We need. I don't know if

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:17.440
<v Speaker 2>we're favorites going into Saturday morning's game, but I like

0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:19.719
<v Speaker 2>our chances. We're on the roll. We're on a one

0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:23.520
<v Speaker 2>game winning streak, and Stein, if we win Saturday morning,

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 2>we play in the championship game that same day at noon.

0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:30.400
<v Speaker 2>So I'm highly motivated. I'll be going to the gym

0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:34.000
<v Speaker 2>three about three times this week to get prepared, get

0:48:34.000 --> 0:48:36.439
<v Speaker 2>my teammates prepared, and I'm sending them texts every day,

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:37.800
<v Speaker 2>just keeping them motivated.

0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Yea twenty seven, seven and thirteen. I want to see

0:48:41.520 --> 0:48:43.360
<v Speaker 1>three more dimes? Can you get a triple double?

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, if the game calls for us, Stein, if the

0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:48.040
<v Speaker 2>game calls for it. But sometimes you got to be

0:48:49.040 --> 0:48:50.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, my team needs me to go, they need

0:48:50.840 --> 0:48:53.160
<v Speaker 2>me to go and score, and sometimes I have to

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:55.760
<v Speaker 2>do that. And I can do the good thing about

0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:58.920
<v Speaker 2>my game, Stean, I can do whatever the game is

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:01.120
<v Speaker 2>called for. And so that's what that's what it was

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 2>called for that day. It may be forty ten and

0:49:04.520 --> 0:49:07.080
<v Speaker 2>ten Saturday, we'll have to see.

0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, look, we can promise you in forthcoming podcasts, there

0:49:13.239 --> 0:49:16.320
<v Speaker 1>will be lots of trade season discussion. As I said,

0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I am en route to the G League showcase in Orlando.

0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:21.839
<v Speaker 1>So trade season is going to be a big part

0:49:21.880 --> 0:49:25.560
<v Speaker 1>of this podcast from now through the February eighth trade deadline.

0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:28.360
<v Speaker 1>But I also can promise you there will be further

0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:33.640
<v Speaker 1>updates of Chris Haynes's Sacramento rec League exploits because now

0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:35.840
<v Speaker 1>we've we got to see if he can live up

0:49:35.880 --> 0:49:36.720
<v Speaker 1>to all this talk.

0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:39.040
<v Speaker 2>Stin, I'm gonna say this, man, it just came. It

0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:41.839
<v Speaker 2>just came to my head right now. I might go

0:49:42.040 --> 0:49:45.200
<v Speaker 2>live during my game. I might set my I might

0:49:45.239 --> 0:49:47.960
<v Speaker 2>have somebody. I might put my phone up on a

0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:51.680
<v Speaker 2>tripod and have somebody just following the game, and I

0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:54.680
<v Speaker 2>might just go live IG live. That might be an

0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:57.799
<v Speaker 2>ig live type of opportunity, so you can see and

0:49:57.840 --> 0:49:59.160
<v Speaker 2>watch what I do.

0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:02.080
<v Speaker 1>First, bringing back the media game that was so popular.

0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:03.719
<v Speaker 1>How many years ago is that now? Four?

0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:09.120
<v Speaker 2>That that was? That was actually when I got this ball, Starn,

0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:12.680
<v Speaker 2>that was twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen.

0:50:13.080 --> 0:50:19.439
<v Speaker 1>And how you got this ball? We're gonna be getting

0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 1>a call from the league office, guys, we your podcast.

0:50:23.960 --> 0:50:26.080
<v Speaker 1>What is this ball that Chris Hayes is talking about

0:50:26.080 --> 0:50:26.840
<v Speaker 1>from the twenty.

0:50:27.400 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't take the game ball from Kawhi Littard. No,

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:32.719
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't. He didn't. He didn't get no record that night,

0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:35.520
<v Speaker 2>so it was safe to take this ball. But I

0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:37.920
<v Speaker 2>got this on good authority. I'm clean.

0:50:39.040 --> 0:50:42.359
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully we answered some of your questions on this edition

0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:45.480
<v Speaker 1>of This League Uncut. I grant you that we have

0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:50.120
<v Speaker 1>probably raised a few more unanswered questions that we will

0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:54.320
<v Speaker 1>with time if you show us just a little more patience.

0:50:54.360 --> 0:50:57.880
<v Speaker 1>If you stay patient with us, we will eventually gradually

0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:02.960
<v Speaker 1>answer those new questions we've raised as well. Great to

0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:04.799
<v Speaker 1>be with you again, mister Haynes. I don't know when

0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:06.879
<v Speaker 1>we will be together again in person. We were only

0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:10.439
<v Speaker 1>together briefly this past week in Dallas. Not sure again

0:51:10.480 --> 0:51:13.680
<v Speaker 1>where we're gonna cross pass, but hopefully we see each

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:16.440
<v Speaker 1>other in person again soon. We will definitely get together

0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:21.680
<v Speaker 1>electronically again soon for another edition of This League Uncut.

0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:26.560
<v Speaker 1>If you haven't already, please remember rate, review or subscribe

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0:51:32.080 --> 0:51:36.399
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0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:41.719
<v Speaker 1>again soon and that'll do it for us. See you

0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:51.280
<v Speaker 1>next time. This League Uncut is and iHeartRadio production. Chris

0:51:51.280 --> 0:51:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Haynes and mark Stein