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Speaker 1: the Titans new running back coach and run game coordinator,

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Speaker 1: Justin Outen. Fascinating story on his background. Justin, would you

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Speaker 1: say that it is fair to call your path, your

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can say that for sure. It's been quite

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Speaker 2: a ride. You know, every job I ever took or

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Speaker 2: every experience I had, you know, starting out as a

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Speaker 2: player and then moving up through the coaching ranks, it's

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Speaker 2: gotten me to where I am today. And whether it

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Speaker 2: was a high school coach and learning how to put

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Speaker 2: equipment together and manage different types of personalities and making

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Speaker 2: sure you know, not only are grades good, but also

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Speaker 2: the families are good with those high school kids. As

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Speaker 2: a high school coach and teacher, like, all those things

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Speaker 2: kind of set me up for who I am today,

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Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, we're all teachers.

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Speaker 2: This it doesn't matter if it's the NFL or college

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Speaker 2: or high school it's what can you do to bring

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Speaker 2: the best out of each player. And if they're playing

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Speaker 2: fast and you're teaching the right things in the classroom,

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Speaker 2: you know, good things happen.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: So you've got me started. Well, I want to go

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Speaker 1: back to your your story and what led you to

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Speaker 1: sort of the turn off that most people wouldn't expect.

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Speaker 1: You played at Central Bucks West, yes, sir, in Bucks County,

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Speaker 1: which is just north of Philly. Two state championships there, sir, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I think I saw Central Bucks West listed among the

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Speaker 1: USA today top twenty five during that time, back when

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Speaker 1: I covered high school in college.

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Speaker 3: So you go to this.

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Speaker 1: Prestigious program, you leave there and you go to Syracuse.

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Speaker 1: You play for Paul PASCWALONEI and Greg Robinson, two guys

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Speaker 1: who spent the bulk of their coaching career in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You start three years at Center.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so I got that right, y. So then playing

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Speaker 3: career is over. What are we going to do?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a graduate assistant at Syracuse, which you

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Speaker 1: would figure to do. So you've got great high school program,

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Speaker 1: prestigious college with great coaches. You do the graduate assistant thing,

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Speaker 1: and then you take a job in Houston, Texas at

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Speaker 1: Westfield High School. Yeah, Okay, that's the turnof nobody expects.

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Speaker 3: How did that happen?

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Speaker 2: I wasn't making much money, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 2: as a graduate assistant, so I knew I wanted to

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Speaker 2: teach and coach. I just didn't know where I found

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Speaker 2: a just a random high school down in Houston, have

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Speaker 2: no correlation whatsoever with Texas through a resume down there

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Speaker 2: off of football scoop and the guy on the other

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Speaker 2: side was the recipient was Chris Morgan at the time,

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Speaker 2: he was the assistant head coach at this high school.

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Speaker 2: What attracted me to Westfield High School was the amount

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Speaker 2: of kids they were putting out in college. They averaged

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Speaker 2: thirteen to fifteen kids a year. It was a six

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Speaker 2: A school, very competitive program. So just to get an

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Speaker 3: A special education teacher. Part of it.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, I mean I have someone in my family

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Speaker 1: who as that. As you just retired, What do you

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Speaker 1: learn from that? Why did that appeal to you so much?

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Speaker 1: I have so many questions about that experience in your life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it always attracted me. Just trying to find

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Speaker 2: different ways to teach and kind of connect the dots.

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Speaker 2: And you know, with my background in college it was

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Speaker 2: you know, elementary education, but it was also a minor

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Speaker 2: in special education, and the reason was, you know, just

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Speaker 2: relating to kids in different areas and learning disabilities and

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Speaker 2: the spectrum. My son is on the spectrum himself. Just

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Speaker 2: with all the cliques, having somebody to lean on and

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Speaker 2: so there wasn't a lot out there for those kids.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of the kids that I dealt with

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Speaker 2: were homebound, so they were belong to the state, so

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Speaker 2: they were in and out of just different institutions and

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Speaker 2: them something to look forward to each day.

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Speaker 1: You got to motivate them and you've got to teach them.

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Speaker 1: We'll have more with Coach Justin Outen on the OTP

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Speaker 1: gift for the ultimate Titans Famous So Chris Morgan, yes,

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Speaker 1: was the head coach who hired you at Westfield High School?

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Speaker 1: The Lord works in mysterious ways, does he? Because Chris

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Speaker 1: Morgan ends up with the Atlanta Falcons as their offensive

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Speaker 1: line coach, and in twenty fifteen, I guess at the

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Speaker 1: end of the twenty fifteen season reaches out to you

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Speaker 1: about an opportunity with the Falcons.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was a seven year span. He ended up

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Speaker 2: bouncing around the NFL. I remember at a track meet

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Speaker 2: when he was about to leave, he said that you're

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Speaker 2: ready to take over. And I said, where are you going?

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Speaker 2: He said, the Raiders. And I said, I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: think of all the high schools in the area that

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Speaker 2: the mascow was a Raider and he said, no, the

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Speaker 2: National Football League. So we kept in touch throughout those years,

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Speaker 2: and an intern opportunity arose in the beginning of sixteen.

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Speaker 1: What was that like that year twenty sixteen, not that

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Speaker 1: long ago. Yeah, you're you're a coaching intern. I mean

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Speaker 1: you're doing everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, you're swimming, you know, you're trying to

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Speaker 2: all the intricacies of it. Drawing the run game, you know,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot built into that. It's not just visio

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Speaker 2: what they're trying to accomplish when they game plan. And

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Speaker 2: it was a it was kind of taking it on

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Speaker 2: like a fire hose as far as just taking all

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Speaker 2: the information in, but just learning it and increments and

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Speaker 2: trying to help you know, other guys like rookies coming in,

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Speaker 2: trying to get those meetings going. I was giving those

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Speaker 2: feel like I belonged. It's not just a you know,

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Speaker 2: a pencil pusher or mouse mover. It was you're you're

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Speaker 2: you're part of the staff. And I thought, you know,

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Speaker 2: with Kyle and Chris and Dan Quinn and that staff,

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Speaker 2: I thought they did a really good job of just

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Speaker 2: developing young coaches in no situation and Matt Laflora and

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Speaker 2: Matt laflor I mean, that was.

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Speaker 1: Quite a group of guys that you get to fall

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Speaker 2: Correct. Yeah, it was. It was a very interesting staff,

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Speaker 2: which was the year I just left going from Houston,

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Speaker 2: So it was it was. It was quite a circle

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Speaker 2: and it was a surreal experience. And my wife looked

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Speaker 2: at me the year two and asked, why aren't we

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Speaker 2: in the super Bowl this year? I said, hun, it's

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Speaker 2: not that, That's not how it works.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, the same thing happened to me. You're one, we

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Speaker 3: went to the super Bowl here. My wife asked me

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Speaker 3: every year?

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Speaker 1: We would like that exactly, justin when did you know

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Speaker 1: the NFL was for you?

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Speaker 3: As a coach?

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Speaker 2: You know, when you realize it's no different at the

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Speaker 2: want to learn, guys want to be pushed. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: But at the highest level, you can't for s for anymore.

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Speaker 2: As a position coach or even a quality control coach

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Speaker 2: It wasn't an easy h by any means. You say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: well you got an opportunity to coach in the National

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Speaker 2: you know, what they're expecting to give you at that level,

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Speaker 2: and you never take advantage and look forward to just

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Speaker 1: Clearly, you're thankful for your high school time, but I've

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Speaker 1: been in twenty sixteen. During that year you were most

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Speaker 1: thankful for it because it wasn't an ego thing for

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Speaker 2: It's what can you do more for the coaches and

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Speaker 2: the players. It's not about you. It's never going to

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Speaker 2: be about you, and you have to look at that

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Speaker 2: at any position that you have in the coaching world,

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Speaker 2: it's not what's for me, it's how can I help

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Speaker 2: it's another position coach, whether it's a coordinator, whether it's

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Speaker 2: Mike Rabel, whoever it may be, what can I do

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Speaker 2: to bring value to my position.

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Speaker 1: It's halftime of this OTP with running back coach Justin Outon,

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Speaker 1: and we remind Titans fans, Hey, it's hard to just

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Speaker 1: what's the best part of a dunkin run?

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Speaker 3: Is it the coffee?

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Speaker 1: Is it the one dollar classic donut or the two

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Speaker 1: dollars stuff bagel Mini's or the three dollars sausage, egg

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Speaker 1: and cheese that you can add to that coffee. Or

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Speaker 1: is it the fact that you get to leave the office.

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Speaker 1: The answer, of course is yes, time for a dunk

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Speaker 1: and run. Great deals on food for one, two or

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Speaker 1: three dollars with a medium or larger coffee. America runs

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Speaker 1: on dumps. Justin, you stayed in Atlanta for two years

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Speaker 1: Worked Justin out and will continue with us on the

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Speaker 1: OTP momentarily. But first, some breaking news that Titans fans

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Speaker 3: So Titans fan, kin fan.

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Speaker 1: Justin Hanten, You had a lot of opportunities after the season,

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Speaker 1: and you chose to join Mike Vrabel and the Tennessee

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Speaker 3: Why was this the right spot for you and your family?

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Speaker 2: You know, going through the interview tour, I'm meeting with

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Speaker 2: Because you look at each and every time we played

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Speaker 2: me to hear, because if you feel like in his position,

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Speaker 2: You present different types of schemes, but you don't overbear

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Speaker 3: What is it like being a first time running back coach?

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Speaker 1: What's the most exciting part of being with this offensive

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Speaker 2: You know, with Tim coming from the New England system

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Speaker 1: I couldn't I couldn't figure out how Justin out and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, that's he's the He's the he's the

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Speaker 2: He's He's got it all as far as the motivation part,

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Speaker 2: All right, So let's wrap up with this Justin Out.

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Speaker 2: You're nearly forty.

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Speaker 1: Could you have ever imagined the ride and where it

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Speaker 3: To be a head coach in the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: Could you've ever imagined?

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Speaker 2: I could imagine, And you know, I tell my wife

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Speaker 3: Justin out and thank you so much for the time.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: That does it for our OTP presented by Farm Bureau

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Speaker 1: Health Plans with Titan's running back coach Justin alten.

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