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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. It's a ditty celebration, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Sean Comes whining again about his birthday grill cheese sandwich.

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Speaker 1: He's worried about a grilled cheese sandwich as a grand

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Speaker 1: jury looms, I, Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for being with us. Day Wilcome.

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Speaker 2: When we will name names other than Shawn Comes, and

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Speaker 2: there's a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of names.

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Speaker 2: It's a long list already because the nature of this case.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna make damn shore, damn sure that we're right

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Speaker 2: before we do that. But the names that we're going

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Speaker 2: to name are names that will shock here.

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Speaker 3: Sean diddy Comb celebrated his fifty fifth birthday behind bars

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Speaker 3: at the MDC in addition to a call from his children.

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Speaker 3: Comes enjoyed a breakfast cake for his first meal of

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Speaker 3: the day and had a choice of pizza, salad, or

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Speaker 3: pasta for dinner. The Disgrace Mogul turned a year older.

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Speaker 3: Amidst a desperate battle in state of gag order has

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Speaker 3: more damaging claims emerge from complainants and witnesses. The latest

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Speaker 3: alegation that a grand jury witness is in possession of

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Speaker 3: at least eight of Didy sex tapes with a list celebrities,

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Speaker 3: some of them miners.

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Speaker 1: There's some controversy was it pasta or was it a

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Speaker 1: grilled cheese? In any event, Sean Comms need to stop

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Speaker 1: whining about his breakfast and lunch menu at MDC Correctional

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Speaker 1: Institute and start thinking about what the Grand jury is doing.

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Speaker 1: The Feds let me tell you, I was a FED

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Speaker 1: for three years. Love to do what we call a

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Speaker 1: superseding indictment. What is that? That is when they add

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Speaker 1: to the current indictment or revise translation change the current indictment.

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. He's already under a federal indictment.

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Speaker 1: So why is the Green Jury continuing to meet? But

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Speaker 1: back to the urgent issue of the grill geese and

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Speaker 1: the birthday celebration. Joining me an all star panel to

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Speaker 1: make sense of what we know now? Straight out to

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Speaker 1: Rob Shooter, a longtime colleague, host of Naughty but Nice

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Speaker 1: podcast which can mean so many different things, but former

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Speaker 1: publicist to Sean Combs and author of the four word

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Speaker 1: Answer very important. He was Combs's publicist for many years.

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Speaker 1: He was also Jennifer Lopez's publicist, and he has attended

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Speaker 1: many white parties. Okay, first question to you, and I'm

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Speaker 1: honor bound to ask this, rob Shooter, when you say

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Speaker 1: that you attended the white parties number one, where you

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Speaker 1: subjected to the requirements to attend a white party. In

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Speaker 1: other words, did you weigh over one hundred and forty pounds?

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Speaker 1: Did you wear a short dress where your quote butt

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Speaker 1: cheeks show? Were you wearing stilettos? Were you quote sexy

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Speaker 1: with low cut top? Because those are some of the

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Speaker 1: requirements that had to be met before you could put

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Speaker 1: one toe in a Diddy white party. Translation, you had

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Speaker 1: to wear all white. Also, did you have to stand

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Speaker 1: on a set of skills which were right there as

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Speaker 1: people were entering to make sure you weren't over one

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Speaker 1: hundred and forty pounds? And were you subjected to an

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Speaker 1: age request where you asked how old are you? So

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Speaker 1: if you could just clear the air right now and

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Speaker 1: answer those questions, Shooter.

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Speaker 4: Let me be clear, I worked at Diddy in the

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Speaker 4: early two thousands, over twenty years ago, and he wasn't

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Speaker 4: yet the Diddy that we know today, So he was

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Speaker 4: still sort of figuring out who he was as a celebrity,

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Speaker 4: as a businessman, and so the party is that I

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Speaker 4: root for Diddy. I was a publicist. I organized the

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Speaker 4: press outside the red carpet, something we call a step

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Speaker 4: and repeat. Celebrities walk down and take pictures. Those parties

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Speaker 4: were about two thousand, Peace called. Now. There were codes

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Speaker 4: of conduct. You have to wear just white if you.

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Speaker 1: Jumped up in wait wait, wait, wait, excuse me? Code

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Speaker 1: of conduct? Are you serious? Code of conduct? You're you're

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Speaker 1: acting like he's trying to get into the Naval Academy.

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Speaker 1: A code of conduct. This is a dress code for

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Speaker 1: women only. They had to show their breasts and their backside.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't I never saw that list. What I saw

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Speaker 4: was a list to get into the regular party, the

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Speaker 4: ones that started at about ten o'clock, not the ones

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Speaker 1: That's a very that's tenient. Isn't it that you knew

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Speaker 1: nothing about the attendance requests? But that said, I'm afraid

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Speaker 1: I'm pulling a Diddy right now. He's all worried about

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Speaker 1: having to eat a grilled cheese sandwich on his birthday

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Speaker 1: instead of the grand jury. Let's get down to what's

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Speaker 1: happening right now, other than whining about his treatment behind

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Speaker 1: at MDC. Doctor Dwayne Hendricks is joining me our associate

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Speaker 1: warden at m d C Metropolitan Detention Center. Former senior

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Speaker 1: Founder president of a New Daylight Foundation, and author of

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Speaker 1: Who Are You See It? Say It? And Sees It? Okay,

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Speaker 1: doctor Hendrix, was Diddy supposed to have a special birthday

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Speaker 5: No, No, not at all. It's frequency discussed. There's a

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Speaker 5: national menu. What he ate on his birthday on Monday

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Speaker 5: was on the menu. And again, I don't continue to

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Speaker 5: understand why he's still complaining about Mills when he's been

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Speaker 5: there for well over going on two months now.

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Speaker 1: So well, hey, doctor Hendricks, nobody offered me cereal fruit

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Speaker 1: or breakfast cake whatever that is. Nobody offered me positive

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Speaker 1: with marinara sauce, meatballs and a salad. Really dinner chicken

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Speaker 1: or toad with fried rice, black beans and carrots. I

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Speaker 1: and he's whining he had chicken, fried rice with black

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Speaker 1: beans and carrots. Is this all about his grilled cheese

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Speaker 1: or is it just the fact that he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: his private chef anymore. So let me see doctor Dwayne

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Speaker 1: Henrick again. Are you telling me the birthday boy did

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Speaker 1: not get special treatment on his birk?

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Speaker 5: The birthday boy did not get special treatment. He's being

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Speaker 5: treated just like every other incarcerated person in the building.

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Speaker 5: And I think the sooner that he understands that he's

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Speaker 5: just going to be just like everyone else, the better

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Speaker 5: the institution while he's a Wayne trial. So again, he

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Speaker 5: has welfish that's out.

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Speaker 1: Of their way. There's going to be a superseding indictment,

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Speaker 1: and he's going to have to sit put for quite

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Speaker 1: a while. Rob Shooter with me. Former publicist de Sean

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Speaker 1: Comes for many years also served as Jennifer Lopez's publicist

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Speaker 1: for a period of time, Rob Shooter, what meals did

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Speaker 1: did he normally have with his private chef? What was

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Speaker 4: He lived like a king, Nancy. I've never seen anybody

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Speaker 4: he lived like this. I worked with a lot of

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Speaker 4: celebrities and did he was the one that enjoyed being

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Speaker 4: a celebrity the most, like the perks of it. We're

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Speaker 4: talking lobster. We're talking nobu, We're talking the best sushi

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Speaker 4: in the world. He would kick his fingers and have

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Speaker 4: people deliver a cheesecake to him in the early hours

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Speaker 4: of the morning. What he has given up as far

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Speaker 4: as his LifeStyle's been taken away from him, as far

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Speaker 4: as his as his lifestyle is concerned, is extraordinary. Nobody

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Speaker 4: lived better than did.

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Speaker 1: Hey, don't you you say something about snapping his fingers

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Speaker 1: in the week morning hours and getting cheesecake delivered.

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Speaker 4: He did. If you worked for Diddy, you worked for

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Speaker 4: a tyrant. He was an absolute boss. He would text

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Speaker 4: and expect a response. It was a really stressful time.

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Speaker 4: He taught me how to be a publicist. And the

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Speaker 4: one thing about Diddy I want to point out that

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Speaker 4: people don't talk about enough if he was charming Dancy.

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Speaker 4: He was absolutely charming, which is why he'd probably got

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Speaker 4: away with what he did for so long.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't understand what's charming about getting a text

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Speaker 1: at four am to do what? What would he want

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Speaker 1: you to do at four am?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Guys, those are photos that have just emerged that indicate

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Speaker 1: that certain alleged victims were with Diddy at the times

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Speaker 1: they say they were, their faces have been blacked out. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what Shooter, what would anybody want at four am in

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Speaker 4: He wanted to figure out what his next day publicity

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Speaker 4: would be. It was all about being the most famous

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Speaker 4: person in the world with pretty limited talent. He's not

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Speaker 4: the best singer or dance or actor, but get somehow

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Speaker 4: he made himself into the center of a circus. It's

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Speaker 4: almost like he was baring them. He was the ringmaster

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Speaker 4: of this circus that he ran. He was the boss.

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Speaker 1: I still don't understand exactly why he would text you

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Speaker 1: continue to say that he was charming when.

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Speaker 4: You were wished Tod and I. I think this is

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Speaker 4: quite common with a lot of really bad people out there.

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Speaker 4: There was a sensic deity that he made you feel special.

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Speaker 4: He looked you in the eye, he showered you with gifts,

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Speaker 4: and now looking back, I can see how manipulative it

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Speaker 4: all was, But in the moment, he made everybody around

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Speaker 1: Rob Shooter joining me for any but Nice podcast? Did

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Speaker 1: you just say? Did? It was not that talented.

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Speaker 4: He was not a natural finger, He was not a

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Speaker 4: natural actor. He was not a natural musician. I don't

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Speaker 4: think he plays an instrument. Yet he managed to make

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Speaker 4: himself into the center of the music business. That comes

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Speaker 4: with a certain amount of talent, with hutzpur with ambition,

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Speaker 4: But as far as traditional talents of a musical artist,

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Speaker 4: he did not possess them.

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Speaker 1: Well, guess what You're in good company. I guess you've

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Speaker 1: heard of the renowned music producer Quincy Jones. Listen.

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Speaker 6: Legendary music producer Quincy Jones passed away Sunday at the

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Speaker 6: age ninety one, and with his death, many are remembering

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Speaker 6: his brutal opinion of Sean Diddy Combs. Jones said to

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Speaker 6: artist Bruno Mars at a twenty twelve Spotify events at

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Speaker 6: that he did he wouldn't know a B flat if

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Speaker 6: but a lackluster producer. Moments after encouraging artists to really

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Speaker 6: learn their craft, Jones later took to social media to

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Speaker 6: say he didn't mean to diss the rapper and had

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Speaker 6: nothing but love and respect for Combs and his achievements.

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Speaker 1: Right, nothing but love, but would know would be flat

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Speaker 1: if it bit him in the neck. Joining me, Doctor

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Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst, joining us from LA, author of deal Breaker.

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Speaker 1: You can find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com

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Speaker 1: and see you're on Peacock. Doctor Bethany. Here is the

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Speaker 1: crux of what I'm getting at while a grand jury

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Speaker 1: is continuing to me. You know what that means, doctor Bethany.

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Speaker 1: That means twenty to life on multiple charges each. That's

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Speaker 1: what's happening right now. The fans are gonna pull. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to go to Josher Ritter on this in just

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Speaker 1: a moment, going to pull as they should if they've

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Speaker 1: got the evidence to support it. What we call a

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Speaker 1: superseding indictment, which means you add to or change the

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Speaker 1: existing indictment. So that's what I would be worried about

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Speaker 1: right now behind bars. Not my grilled cheese sandwich I

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Speaker 1: had on my birthday, Not whether Quincy Jones said I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't know a beef flat if it bit me in

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Speaker 1: the neck. But I guarantee, Bethany, that is what is

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Speaker 1: consuming him right now. I guarantee you too.

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Speaker 7: You know it does matter to him because he did

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Speaker 7: He only cares about his own bodily pleasures, whether it's food, sex,

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Speaker 7: the clothing that he wears. He is a glutton, okay,

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Speaker 7: so of course he's going to be staring straight at

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Speaker 7: that pasta marinara and wondering if the temperature is hot enough.

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Speaker 7: He lives his life for food and sex. He snaps

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Speaker 7: his fingers at four in the morning to get a

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Speaker 7: birthday cake delivered to him. He's I guess Freud would

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Speaker 7: use the term his royal highness the baby. He gets

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Speaker 1: Mean, Bethany, you're telling me that Sean Comes aka Diddy

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Speaker 7: I'm saying most artists they express themselves through music because

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Speaker 7: Quincy Jones was referring to, not even knowing a bee

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Speaker 8: Sean Diddy Combs has now been sued with claims of

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Speaker 4: A birthday, I'm happy, thank you very much.

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Speaker 9: I love you.

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Speaker 10: I know Daddy by right here he on the Florence

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Speaker 1: But it's sad to me because of his children. I

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Speaker 7: Whatever Colm's attachment style is with his victims, wanting to

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Speaker 1: I don't know that they ever will, Bethany, I don't

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Speaker 7: Well, maybe some will and some won't.

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Speaker 7: I think what you're suggesting, Nancy is they'll stay in

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Speaker 1: Learn going forward to Crime online dot Com investigative reporter

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Speaker 1: Sidney Sumner, what were the ages of the youngest alleged victims,

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Speaker 1: because many of them are younger than Didi's own children.

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Speaker 1: Let's just think about.

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Speaker 4: That for a moment, Nancy.

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Speaker 11: The latest filing from a minor at the time who

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Speaker 11: year old boy auditioning for combs. They also have a

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Speaker 11: young children here, sixteen, nineteen years old in Combes's youngest child,

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Speaker 1: To Chris mcdunn and joining me, director of the Cole

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Speaker 1: Case Foundation and for my purposes, former homicide detective and

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Speaker 1: vice detective. He is a host of a blockbuster YouTube channel,

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Speaker 1: The Interview Room. Chris, I'm speaking of the alleged younger victims, juveniles,

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Speaker 1: There are many of them, and they all have a

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Speaker 1: startlingly similar story that they wanted to audition to get

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Speaker 1: same modus operandi, method of operation alleged over and over

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Speaker 3: You're one hundred.

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Speaker 12: Percent right, Nancy, And that pee in his name may

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Speaker 12: have a whole different meaning. Now, the fact that he

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Speaker 9: On that phone call. It just goes back to doctor

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Speaker 9: Bethany's thought process and relationship to you know, total power

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Speaker 9: that just puts him at a whole different level because

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Speaker 9: now as he projects, you know, hey, so I beat

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, so Jirov Sater to a

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Speaker 1: Not Even Nice Podcast, former publicist to Sean Combs and

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez Rob I'm hearing what Chris mc dunnet is saying,

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Speaker 1: and we're talking about the MOO method of operation, where

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Speaker 4: When I started working with Diddy about twenty years ago,

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Speaker 4: But I think about the children, if I can just

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Speaker 4: He's now fighting two battles, a legal battle and the

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Speaker 3: The world of Diddy Freakovs has physical requirements for all

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Speaker 3: A recent interagency operation at the MDC turned up numerous

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Speaker 3: Investigators say the large scale sweet for contraband had nothing

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Speaker 1: Right. It has nothing to do with Sean Combs being

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Speaker 1: Now let me understand to you, Sidney Sumner or Crime

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Speaker 11: Why, Nancy. We believe this is due to the stabbings

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Speaker 1: Of hornt okay well, so far in the claims by

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Speaker 1: A lot of celebrities, so Diddy is not alone. Let's

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Speaker 5: No, And in terms of the sleep that went through

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Speaker 1: Are you telling me you believe in coincidences that Diddy

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Speaker 5: I think by bringing our law enforcement partners, it brings

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Speaker 5: transparency and it also helps create a safer environment. But

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Speaker 5: I do I will also admit having Sean Holmes there

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Speaker 5: and all eyes on the institution, especially with some of

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Speaker 5: the issues that they've had there over the last several years,

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Speaker 5: that made that next multi agency suite probably happening a

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Speaker 5: lot faster than it would have maybe a.

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Speaker 1: Few So now you're saying it is connected. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: cannot have your cage on a similar and eat it too.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to give you a moment to think

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Speaker 1: about what you just said and then come up with

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Speaker 1: your decision to Shawn comes being there have anything to

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Speaker 1: do with a sweep across the entire MDC revealing what

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Speaker 1: a lot of weapons, cell phone devices, and much more drugs, shanks,

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Speaker 1: you name it, Josh Ritter, When you and behind bars guys,

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Speaker 1: Joshua ridd is a renown criminal defense attorney, former prosecutor,

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Speaker 1: and host of Courtroom Confidential on YouTube. You can find

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Speaker 1: them at Joshua Ridder dot com. I'm always amazed that

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Speaker 1: people lead a life of crime and when they end

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Speaker 1: up behind bars, they're like, what this is awful? Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's jail, But do they not understand that a life

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Speaker 1: of crime leads to incarceration.

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Speaker 13: Well, I think one thing that criminals don't do is

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Speaker 13: think about consequences. Most of their life has lived on

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Speaker 13: this idea that they're going to get away with it.

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Speaker 13: So yeah, there's a lot of rude awakenings when they

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Speaker 13: end up behind bars. It's an incredibly uncomfortable is not

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Speaker 13: even the right word for it. It's an incredibly horrible

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Speaker 13: place to be in. I mean, you're you're first of all,

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Speaker 13: you're lacking all kinds of comfort. But secondly, as we're

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Speaker 13: finding out, it's also incredibly stressful, a horrible place.

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Speaker 1: How do you think those women feel when they wake

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Speaker 1: up the next morning still greased up with baby oil

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Speaker 1: infused with g HB gama hydroxy butty eight, with their

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Speaker 1: rear ends and their vagina's herding. What about that? And

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Speaker 1: you're telling me Gella is a horrible place.

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Speaker 13: To be And yeah, no, you're absolutely right, And that's

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Speaker 13: why he's ever.

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Speaker 1: Wake up morning govern baby hurting ridder.

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Speaker 13: Not No, I cannot say that that I've experienced that.

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Speaker 4: But lucky you.

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Speaker 1: I guess you didn't go to a white party, you know,

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Speaker 1: Rob Sheeter, I agree with what Richard just said that

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Speaker 1: criminals do not think about consequences of what they are doing.

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Speaker 1: Rob Sheeter, could you just give me a peek into

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Speaker 1: the lifestyle that Sean Combs enjoyed before he ended up

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Speaker 1: in MDC.

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Speaker 4: He lived like a king, like an absolute king. Could

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Speaker 4: he afford the best of the best, from private plane

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Speaker 4: to the best restaurants to the best clothes. The most

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Speaker 4: important part of this that we don't talk about enough

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Speaker 4: is that it's the way people would treat him. Puppy

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Speaker 4: could get on the stone with pretty much anybody, and

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Speaker 4: a winter who runs Vogue magazine in fd lrder If

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Speaker 4: he wanted a fravrance whatever giddy place to call, it

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Speaker 4: was returned. He loved being a celebrity. He went out

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Speaker 4: all the time, the parties he played, and he literally

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Speaker 4: was the king of New York for quite a period

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Speaker 4: of time. It wasn't that sure.

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Speaker 1: The NDC Brooklyn amenities okay, indoor outdoor facilities for games

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Speaker 1: and sports, cable TV, movie nights on weekends, True linked

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Speaker 1: tablets for communication. I guess it's like an iPad and

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Speaker 1: a library. Wait a minute, in or outdoor facilities that

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Speaker 1: mean basketball and tennis, cable TV. I hope he's watching

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Speaker 1: right now. Movie nights on weekends. Nobody's giving me a

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Speaker 1: movie night? Does that come with partcorn and soda? True

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Speaker 1: linked tablets, I guess, says an iPad and a library.

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Speaker 1: Now to you, Rob Shooter, what would a day in

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Speaker 1: the life of Ditty be like before? In DC?

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Speaker 4: It would be extraordinary. He looked like a change. He

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Speaker 4: looked like a superstar. He would wake up, he'd have

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Speaker 4: people there to make his breakfast. They'd have people there

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Speaker 4: to dress him. It'd have clothes brought him and he

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Speaker 4: could select. He would then get in a show for Limos.

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Speaker 4: He's driven to his office where he'd spend a couple

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Speaker 4: of hours, and then he would go to the gym,

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Speaker 4: and then he'd meet friends for dinner. It was an

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Speaker 4: extraordinary life and people to jump. He could send people

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Speaker 4: and they would take those calls and.

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Speaker 3: Just crime stories with Nancy Grace ja Ja Rune Subramaniam

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Speaker 3: rejects a gag order proposal from the defense team for

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Speaker 3: Sean Ditty Combs did. He claims government officials are leaking

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Speaker 3: information about him to the media in an effort make

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Speaker 3: him look dangerous to prevent every from getting out on

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Speaker 3: bond before trial. After ejecting the proposal from Ditty, the

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Speaker 3: judge adopts a gag order similar to that requested by Combs.

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Speaker 3: The judges order insists federal agents, investigators, and Ditty's team

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Speaker 3: must follow the laws forbidding them from leaking grand jury

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Speaker 3: proceedings that can create problems for a fair trial.

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Speaker 1: Two. Joshua Ritter high profile lawyer. Isn't it true that

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Speaker 1: Combs is facing new grand jury testimony while prosecutors have

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Speaker 1: rejected a demand that he that they be forced to

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Speaker 1: reveal the accusers' identities, and that Comb's is insisting that

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Speaker 1: everyone potential witnesses be under a gag order. Is that

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Speaker 1: what they are arguing right now?

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Speaker 13: Yes, And the government's saying absolutely no. Dies, There's no

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Speaker 13: way they're going to be handing over this information about

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Speaker 13: the alleged victims impossible witnesses because they're trying to protect

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Speaker 13: these people. They know the kind of power this man.

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Speaker 1: Well, another thing is that this is another thing, Joshua,

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Speaker 1: is that such a gag order would be placed on

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Speaker 1: potential witnesses, including civil compliance that are suing for money. Well,

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Speaker 1: I do see one problem. A grand jury witness came

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Speaker 1: out and had a press conference. Listen.

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Speaker 6: Courtney Burgess, reportedly a friend of the late Kim Porter,

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Speaker 6: tells reporters outside the courthouse that he just testified in

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Speaker 6: front of the Diddy grand jury as a witness. Burgess

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Speaker 6: claims that Porter gave him eleven flash drives for safekeeping

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Speaker 6: shortly before her death. Burgess says the drive store at

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Speaker 6: least eight sex tapes picturing Colmns with different a list

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Speaker 6: celebrities who Burgess describes as victims, two or three of

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Speaker 6: whom appear to be minors. Burgess claims he no longer

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Speaker 6: has possession of the tapes.

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Speaker 1: Why did a grand jury witness come out and hold

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Speaker 1: a presser claiming that he has videos of celebrities at

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Speaker 1: the party. Why would he do that? What is his

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Speaker 1: motivation for implicating celebrities?

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Speaker 14: Well after that presser this happened two days after Courtney

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Speaker 14: Burgess publicly discusses his testimony, Shawn Combs's legal team submits

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Speaker 14: a letter to Judge Subramanian demanding with renewed urgency that

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Speaker 14: he established a gag order. The defense attorneys specifically cite

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Speaker 14: Courtney Burgess' eagerness to speak with the media and a

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Speaker 14: New York Post article using a federal agent as a

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Speaker 14: source as improper pre trial publicity that is making it

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Speaker 14: impossible for comes to have a fair trial.

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Speaker 1: If that's true, that a federal agent or a federal employee,

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Speaker 1: it could be the person making xerox copies for all

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Speaker 1: I know that works in the courthouse. The state's got

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Speaker 1: to ferret out who is making links if anyone. But

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Speaker 1: the Feds are fighting back. Listen.

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Speaker 6: Federal prosecutors are fighting Comb's requests to identify his accusers,

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Speaker 6: calling the defense's petition an attempt to hijack the criminal

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Speaker 6: case to fight civil claims against him. Prosecutors cite serious

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Speaker 6: and ongoing concerns for victims and witnesses safety as reason

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Speaker 6: enough to deny Comb's demand, But the Feds also that

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Speaker 6: asking the judge to force an early disclosure of evidence

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Speaker 6: is a thinly veiled attempt to restrict the government's proof

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Speaker 6: at an early stage of the case.

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Speaker 1: In the middle of all of this, a celeb weighs

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Speaker 1: in slamming, of all people, Jennifer Lopez. Okay to you,

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Speaker 1: Rob Shooter. Look, I don't have an opinion one way

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Speaker 1: or the other. On Elon Musk, he must be brilliant

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Speaker 1: to be launching rockets. Well, some of them work. But

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Speaker 1: that said, the guy's got to be a braining act.

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Speaker 1: But why is he waiting into the show?

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Speaker 14: On Combs Controversy, listen, Elon Musk is slamming Jennifer Lopez

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Speaker 14: for her failure to warn anyone about Ditty's disgusting behavior.

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Speaker 14: Musk comments that someone had to know that Combs was

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Speaker 14: abusing women and children, but the music industry continued to

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Speaker 14: feed him victims. Lopez has always remained very tight lipped

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Speaker 14: about their relationship, but did reveal Combs often referred to

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Speaker 14: their relationship as a marriage and frequently threatened her with divorce.

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Speaker 1: Rob Shooter, you repped j Loo and Sean Combs. What

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Speaker 1: was the nature of their relationship? All I know was

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Speaker 1: after that nightclub shooting, she broke.

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Speaker 4: Up with him, right, That's right. Jennison would credit Sean

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Speaker 4: with creating a lot of her career. She changed the

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Speaker 4: name to j Loo because of his recommendation. He's the

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Speaker 4: one that encouraged her to get into the music this

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Speaker 4: to release albums. He stead her up with several different

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Speaker 4: producers so early on in her career. He was quite

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Speaker 4: helpful for her. However, after that shooting incident in the

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Speaker 4: nightclub where she was presented at the time, that was

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Speaker 4: the end of their relationship. Rantically, they did stay friend,

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Speaker 4: don't talk to one another.

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Speaker 1: It is praise please stop stop stop, Rob Shooter. They

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Speaker 1: stayed friends. Uh uh she all you can see j

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Speaker 1: Lo was elbows and tailhole. She ran the other way.

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Speaker 1: Of course, She's saying, oh, we're still friends. Who wants

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Speaker 1: to store up before was Sean comes? For Pete's sake?

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Speaker 1: Why are you saying they stayed at friends? That's stuff

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Speaker 1: when you break up with a bad boyfriend. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're still friends. No you're not. Why are you saying that?

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Speaker 4: Good question. She did maintain publicly that her and puppy

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Speaker 4: was still friends. Now, I represented both of them, and

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Speaker 4: I can tell you when I worked for them, they

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Speaker 4: were not together romantically, and both accounts were very separate.

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Speaker 4: She never ever asked me about him. He always asked

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Speaker 4: me about her.

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Speaker 1: Hmm. Interesting, So he was thinking about her a lot

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Speaker 1: more than she was thinking about him. Doctor Bethony Marshall again,

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Speaker 1: I would not know Musk if he bit me in then, Nick,

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Speaker 1: but you've got to agree he's a brainiac, Okay. Why

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Speaker 1: he would inject himself in the middle of all this

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Speaker 1: much less attack?

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Speaker 2: J Lo.

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Speaker 1: So what if she did disagree with his behavior? Why

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Speaker 1: do you think she turned hail? I'm wondering with Elon Musk.

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Speaker 7: If you have one power hungry man taking advantage of

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Speaker 7: another person's waning power. Now Elon Musk is going to

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Speaker 7: be at the head of the heap right, And I'm

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Speaker 7: sure j Lo had to say that she was friends

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Speaker 7: with P Diddy because he was probably stalking her like

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Speaker 7: he stalked all of his victims. And when a woman

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Speaker 7: is being stalked, the last thing she's going to do

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Speaker 7: is say anything negative about the stalker. She's going to

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Speaker 7: smooth it over as much as she can.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't like seeing Jennifer Lopez attacked

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Speaker 1: because of not taking a public stand against her benefactor

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Speaker 1: and mentor that helped her in her career, that said

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Speaker 1: final word to you.

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Speaker 7: Bethany, Well, she probably had a lot to lose by

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Speaker 7: taking a stand because he probably had power over her,

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Speaker 7: like he had power over every other victim in his life.

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Speaker 3: A form playboy model claims Diddy invited her and two

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Speaker 3: friends to a Tokyo party that she now believes was

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Speaker 3: a freak off. Rachel Kennedy says she met Combs at

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Speaker 3: a Tokyo club where she worked, and he returned the

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Speaker 3: next night to invite her to a party. When Kennedy

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Speaker 3: and two friends arrived to come hotel room, was alone

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Speaker 3: in a bathroom with a bottle of champagne. Kennedy says,

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Speaker 3: Combs had a j Lo music video playing in a

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Speaker 3: loop on the TV while he talked on the phone

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Speaker 3: with his then girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: Chris mcdunna joining me, former homicide and vice cop. Again,

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Speaker 1: the arrogance of inviting somebody over and then you pop

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Speaker 1: out in nothing but a bathroom and a bottle of champagne.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, you can't make this stuff up. But

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Speaker 9: let's remember he is a very dangerous individual in terms

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Speaker 9: of as a hunter. His whole persona is is to

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Speaker 9: lure that victim men. And this is an obvious situation

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Speaker 9: here where he gives these two women to come to

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Speaker 9: his apartment or his hotel room, whatever it was. There,

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Speaker 9: He's already prepared, and that's what a hunter does. He's

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Speaker 9: already staked out, you know, the where he's going to

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Speaker 9: do the hunting. He's already got it figured out, you know,

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Speaker 9: if he's gonna you know, how he's going to execute,

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Speaker 9: you know, the the event that evening. He is a

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Speaker 9: very dangerous individual.

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Speaker 1: The grand jury is meeting now are they hearing these

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Speaker 1: other alleged victims? And remember, Sean Comes is innocent until

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Speaker 1: proven guilty in a court of law. All of this

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Speaker 1: is just allegations that said the longtime manager of superstar

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Speaker 1: John Legend has now been added to the alleged victim

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Speaker 1: list listen.

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Speaker 3: John Legend's longtime manager, tys To Gloria has wrote about

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Speaker 3: her terrifying experience at a ditty party. In an op

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Speaker 3: ed for The New York Times. Sir Cloria says she

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Speaker 3: was a recent college graduate when she snuck into a

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Speaker 3: Saint Bart's got party with her brother Stacloria's belief she

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Speaker 3: was following a man to a disco room, but wound

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Speaker 3: up locked in a bedroom with him alone. Sir Cloria's

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Speaker 3: managed to convince the man her brother would be looking for,

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Speaker 3: but to this day she wonders how much worse that

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Speaker 3: situation could have been.

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Speaker 1: As the grand jury continues to meet and what I

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Speaker 1: believe gathering testimony for a superseding felony indictment against Shawn Combs,

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Speaker 1: he is concerned about his grilled cheese birthday sandwich. Let's

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Speaker 1: stop and remember an American hero. Police officer Cody James

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Speaker 1: Brotherson West Valley CITYPD, Utah struck and killed in the

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Speaker 1: line of duty just twenty five, survived by grieving fiancee

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Speaker 1: Jessica and their fur baby, Bolo, American hero police officer

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Speaker 1: Cody James brotherson Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend,