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Speaker 3: Oh Baby, let's do it live on a Monday edition

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Speaker 3: of Cleveland Brown's Daily.

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Speaker 4: I am merely Bo. He is the great transcendent Z

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Speaker 4: boys are we? Yes, we are back. It is great

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Speaker 4: to be back with you, in particular, great time down

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Speaker 4: in Nashville. It was awesome, great city, so fun, great food.

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Speaker 4: How was your weather? Great weather nice perfect. Yeah, Vanderbilt

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Speaker 4: was awesome. And then you know, very difficult to get into,

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Speaker 4: so you hope that it can work out. But both

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Speaker 4: of the kids loved it and it was great, great trip.

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Speaker 4: Miss Kay's birthday, your bird. Yeah, and over the weekend

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Speaker 4: as well. Yeah, it's been a lot going on. It's

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Speaker 4: a happy birthday.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. Yeah, yeah, that happened over the bit.

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Speaker 4: You look somehow you look younger Benjamin Button.

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Speaker 3: Well, sun will do that this giant shiny orb in

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Speaker 3: the sky amidst vitamin D, and with that comes a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a glow and then your hair and

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Speaker 3: fingernails tend to grow a little faster.

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Speaker 4: So that feels like that's a wind. It's all good. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was, that's right.

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Speaker 3: I had I'll real quick, one quick travel story and

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Speaker 3: then we'll get into it. So we had decided that

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Speaker 3: we were going to fly back Thursday night on the

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Speaker 3: Red Eye.

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Speaker 4: Now I got you.

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Speaker 3: There's only two options to fly out of Palm Springs

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Speaker 3: back east, So you can fly at six o'clock in

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Speaker 3: the morning or between one and two in the afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Six o'clock in the morning gets you back at three

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Speaker 3: o'clock in the afternoon. Here the one to two in

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Speaker 3: the afternoon, it's it's usually it's around midnight. It's like

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Speaker 3: in the eleven o'clock hour something like that is the

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Speaker 3: way that it works. So we've done both these flights

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Speaker 3: before and we found that if you fly at six

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Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning, you kind of lose the previous

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Speaker 3: day entire, lose it all. You're up at three yep,

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Speaker 3: you know, is what it is. So the one to

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Speaker 3: two o'clock option. The issue there is if something's wrong somewhere,

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Speaker 3: you can get cooked and you can stay. No no, no,

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Speaker 3: Palm Springs too. You can this that flight time gets

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Speaker 3: you through Dallas, Chicago or Denver. We'll get you there

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Speaker 3: and then we'll get you here around midnight. Kind of

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Speaker 3: way that it's worked historically. So when Leblonde and I

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Speaker 3: were booking it, all of a sudden, there's this eleven

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Speaker 3: to fifty nine pm flight and I'm like, out of

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Speaker 3: Palm Springs, out of Palm Springs, getting into Chicago by

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Speaker 3: six am Central hour and a half layover, flying here

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Speaker 3: and here by nine am. Okay, so look, we'll be tired,

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Speaker 3: but we'll have all day Friday to kind of get

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Speaker 3: back on tracks, so you can start school on Monday.

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Speaker 3: It's not ideal, but we'll get a full day, another

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Speaker 3: full day in the desert where you have a meal,

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Speaker 3: you play golf, you do all the things you want

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Speaker 3: to do, and then you fly out. It's a good

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Speaker 3: idea in theory, because once you go to execute the plan,

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Speaker 3: my friend, it becomes a different deal.

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Speaker 4: And tap red eyes are tough, dude.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at Bootsy not for the faint of heart.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at Bootsy at like ten o'clock Thursday night,

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Speaker 3: Pacific time. My guy's passed out. I'm like, dog, I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I can't carry through an airport like I need you

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Speaker 4: So that was a struggle. So the kids were kind

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Speaker 3: We get on the flight boards at eleven At eleven

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Speaker 3: twenty we were boarding group two and so on the

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Speaker 3: plane and we're sitting on the plane and it was

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Speaker 3: like somebody.

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Speaker 4: Unplugged it.

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Speaker 3: And unplugged black and then like emergency light popped on

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Speaker 4: That's good. He goes, no, Dad, that's not good.

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Speaker 3: So wait at about thirty five to forty seconds, better

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Speaker 3: one of the ground crew bumped a fuse and it

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's reset it.

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Speaker 3: He goes, it is better than yeah, the alternative, Yes,

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Speaker 3: He's like, all right, be about twenty minutes, twenty thirty minutes,

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Speaker 3: I told you guys before, the weather was in the

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Speaker 3: so starting to sweat a little bit, getting hot. Twenty minutes,

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Speaker 3: they never pushed away the jet bridge. So we ate

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Speaker 3: twenty thirty minutes, ding ding pilot back on, folks, a

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Speaker 3: little bit of bad news. Unfortunately, we're gonna have to

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Speaker 3: restart the plane from scratch. So we're going to deboard

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Speaker 3: the plane and then hope to have you back on

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Speaker 3: after we get this all going. Because we couldn't get

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Speaker 4: And now you here deboarding. Not good. Two hundred people,

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Speaker 4: not good. Now, the good news is you at least

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Speaker 4: have a place to stave if you have a residence,

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Speaker 3: A student observation out of you private school.

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Speaker 4: And now your connection, even if everything goes well, is

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Speaker 4: in jeopardy. So but at least you have a place. Today,

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Speaker 4: I have purt people who go for this red Eye

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Speaker 4: now it's one thirty in the morning, one o'clock in

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Speaker 3: So I go to that. We get out. Everybody d boards,

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Speaker 4: I go, I'm first.

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Speaker 3: Guy in line with the lady work in the counter,

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Speaker 3: and I said, listen, I have a place to stay.

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Speaker 3: I'll fly out tomorrow. I'll fly out Saturday. It doesn't

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Speaker 3: get me home, doesn't matter. I just want to go

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Speaker 3: So she's nice lady, punching everything in. She goes, I

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Speaker 4: There's no spring break. Two options.

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Speaker 3: I could either fly Friday to San Francisco at what

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Speaker 3: I would have got in it. We would get it

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Speaker 4: Okay, where they could get all five of us.

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Speaker 3: So we're sitting there and the meantime, somebody comes on

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Speaker 3: we're gonna board it. So now it's one fifteen in

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Speaker 3: Two hundred people on the plane, all the gear, everything right,

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Speaker 3: to redo the flight plan as well. Should be fifteen

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Speaker 4: Got to go in.

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Speaker 3: That takes twenty minutes. The good news is we got

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Speaker 3: a lot of gas and we're going to go fast.

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Speaker 3: So what was going to be a three hour and

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Speaker 3: and we should be in in three hours.

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Speaker 5: Took a page out of the Browns charter book.

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Speaker 6: I liked it.

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Speaker 4: It's like it so aware. We go.

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Speaker 3: We're on and we take off, and my wife and

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Speaker 3: I are like, look, at least we get to Chicago.

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Speaker 3: We'll have options.

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Speaker 4: You can drive home.

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Speaker 3: I can drive if I need to. There's gonna be

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Speaker 3: other flights I can catch. Like, let's just get to

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Speaker 3: we could not be stuck out there. So we're on

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Speaker 3: United app. You've been rebooked because you're going to miss

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Speaker 3: your connection. Okay, no big deal. I mean it's there's

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Speaker 3: one hundred flights between here and there all day long.

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Speaker 4: YEA, not a problem.

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Speaker 3: It was for ten fifty two Thursday night, Friday night

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Speaker 4: So it's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: So I'm on the I'm on the plane and got

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Speaker 3: I'm looking for rental cars. Guess what, no rental cars

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Speaker 3: went on every site. I'm on every site. None we're available,

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Speaker 3: a pickup truck in a northern Chicago suburb. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: all right, we're gonna uber to this sucker, and then

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Speaker 3: we're gonna load it up and we're gonna drive. I'm

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Speaker 3: not spending twelve hours in the Chicago airport.

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Speaker 4: I'm just not.

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Speaker 3: I even looked at like private car drive, Like what

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Speaker 3: a car drive? I tried to Uber.

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Speaker 4: Can I uber from Chicago?

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Speaker 5: You can?

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Speaker 3: You can, but I couldn't get it to come up

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Speaker 3: as an option. Every time I typed in like uber

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Speaker 3: to the location, they would not give it to me.

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Speaker 3: So way we go. All right, so I got a

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Speaker 3: rental car. We're on this ten to fifty two flight.

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Speaker 3: We can make a decision on how we want. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what to do with the kids,

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Speaker 3: Like if we try to fight ten fifty, what do

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Speaker 3: we do. I'm not gonna sit in the Chicago airport

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Speaker 3: for fifteen hours. Where go get them a Chicago beef

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Speaker 3: kids are freaking.

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Speaker 5: They're not gonna want to walk around the train because

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Speaker 5: that's all you're gonna do.

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Speaker 3: It was storming in Chicago Friday too, So we land

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Speaker 3: d plane and again I've been rebooked. But I look

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Speaker 3: at my other flight and it says boarded. It says boarded.

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Speaker 3: So we were in C twenty six. We were flying

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Speaker 3: out of B two. Amy's like, let's go. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: this is crazy. There's no chance it's gone. There's no chance.

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Speaker 3: We were taking off at seven thirty. It's seven thirty

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Speaker 5: But she's like, I got through. I'm in. But she

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, the low numbers are not at the front. No,

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Speaker 3: It goes from I get I think you're the big

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Speaker 5: Dude, congratulates.

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Speaker 4: So to have a win that was huge. Have a

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Speaker 3: I got you, instead of an hour before takeoff, which

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Speaker 3: Security is blocking the parking.

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Speaker 4: All the parking said there are no spots, can't park here,

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Speaker 4: What we ended up doing was we came and may

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Speaker 5: So being here, oh yeah, it wouldn't preclude No, I

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Speaker 3: You guys, remember what I was dealing with and the

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Speaker 5: What happened with that?

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Speaker 3: So he dropped off? Remember I remember we had this

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Speaker 3: Jim's livery he he was locked in actually dropped off

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Speaker 4: I would have done. And you couldn't park anywhere.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well that a.

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Speaker 5: Number one. We had us find out through the documentari

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Speaker 4: Not putting anybody out like that. That's no way. It's

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Speaker 5: I said something to the great Rick pulling into Jay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You're although you wear their gear like you're in you're

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Speaker 4: their gear, the gear.

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Speaker 5: I want to know what the London gear is going

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Speaker 3: A lot of Union jacks.

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Speaker 4: I like it. I'm just saying the.

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Speaker 5: Next time, just tell us, like there were three of

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Speaker 5: I would have run down, grabbed the escalade from across

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Speaker 4: Taking it over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, We've a lot's been going on, sort

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, you give me the one. I think this

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Speaker 4: We took a big swing and miss with DeShawn. We

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Speaker 4: we've got to dig ourselves out of that hole. It

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Speaker 4: Jimmy said, hold D and I accountable that they did this.

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Speaker 4: of the situation. You could choose believe it or not.

442
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 4: Football Andrew Berry comes fancy football sides. They came to

443
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Speaker 4: the conclusion that they wanted to bring DeShawn Watson into

444
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Speaker 4: our organization once it was vetted out and everybody was

445
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,120
Speaker 4: on board with it. Basically, Jimmy said, let's get it done.

446
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,400
Speaker 4: And if what does it take to get it done.

447
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 4: Turns out it took a guaranteed contract, so yes, he

448
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 4: signed off on that portion of it, But it wasn't

449
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 4: like he was the brainchild for bringing to Shawn Watson in.

450
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 4: It was an organization decision. I think it's that's great

451
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,119
Speaker 4: leadership to say that the buck does stop with me.

452
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 4: I own the team, so all less accountable. That's great.

453
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Speaker 4: But I think people are reading it to mean that

454
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,440
Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson is a Cleveland Brown because of a Jimmy

455
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 4: has Them directive. That is not the case. It was

456
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 4: football brought it here and Jimmy HASLM did, by the way,

457
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 4: had it worked out? You guys, he's singing his praise

458
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 4: is because he's clearly willing to do whatever it takes

459
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Speaker 4: from financial standpoint to get the best team on the field.

460
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 4: It did not work out. He admitted that as well.

461
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 4: Now we can read into that comment and yeah, what

462
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 4: that means knowing that he is still on the roster,

463
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Speaker 4: I understand that, but it's just comment.

464
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Speaker 3: It's three years here and missing the fourth with an injury,

465
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Speaker 3: so it's like, at best it's one year. That is

466
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 3: not a definition of worked out. And I think you

467
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 3: get it. You have the perfect reread on it. This

468
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 3: is an old school approach. This is an old school

469
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 3: ownership approach for a guy who's.

470
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Speaker 4: The buck stops with me. That's me.

471
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 3: I'm the I'm the boss, I'm the owner. Me and

472
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,679
Speaker 3: you are the owners. We're the bosses. We signed the checks,

473
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 3: we have to okay it. No one's doing a deal

474
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 3: like this without our approval. I would just tell you this,

475
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Speaker 3: everything that Z has said about all of this, the

476
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Speaker 3: lead up we have, We have talked about this for

477
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 3: years and laid this out, and people don't want to

478
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Speaker 3: believe it, left and right. I still get people who

479
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Speaker 3: come up to me all the time and don't believe

480
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Speaker 3: the way that what we're.

481
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Speaker 4: Saying, what we're telling happened. It's the way that it happened.

482
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Speaker 3: No, it's not conjectures, not spin, it's the fact.

483
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 4: This is how it happened.

484
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 3: And and so once it became hey, we really want

485
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Speaker 3: to get this guy. We think we can get him

486
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Speaker 3: ownerships at Okay, well we'll do what it takes to

487
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 3: get him. That's how that's how it went. And what

488
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:09,120
Speaker 3: happened today with Jimmy Hasle making these comments is that's

489
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Speaker 3: the way it happened.

490
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Speaker 4: But it still it's on me. Yeah, because I could

491
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Speaker 4: have said no, yes, I could have said I'm not

492
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Speaker 4: I own the team. I said, I'm not doing it,

493
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 4: I guarantee the contract because I don't want to do that.

494
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 4: But he said he would. And I think that in

495
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 4: a situation where if it is a huge if, but

496
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Speaker 4: if we ever can get the quarterback right, we have

497
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Speaker 4: an owner here who is going to ensure that that

498
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Speaker 4: quarterback is surrounded by everything that he needs, not just

499
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Speaker 4: short term but long term, and so that is goes

500
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Speaker 4: back to it. That is job one now. He also

501
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Speaker 4: went on to say they will not force a quarterback

502
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Speaker 4: at two. So we have to get that position right,

503
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Speaker 4: but we will not force the quarterback at two. He

504
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 4: said that it is they've got to get this draft right,

505
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Speaker 4: not just the first round. They need to get this

506
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Speaker 4: draft right. That it's huge for them this year. He said,

507
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 4: it would be great if we could get a quarterback,

508
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Speaker 4: but we're not going to try to force it. We're

509
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 4: going to be patient and we're going to try to

510
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Speaker 4: accumulate as many really good football players as we can.

511
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Speaker 3: I would also say I would this isn't as anything

512
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 3: necessarily in regard to mister Haslm's comments.

513
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Speaker 4: But just we're a month from the draft. Man, No

514
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Speaker 4: one's telling the truth.

515
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 3: Like I had some Brian Callahan talking this morning the Titans,

516
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 3: we're two weeks away from our decision.

517
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 4: Nonsense.

518
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 3: They know where they're going. But this is all just

519
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 3: Lis Poker. It's just nonsense.

520
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Speaker 5: You guys missed some whoppers.

521
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 3: What was your favorite What was your favorite bunch of

522
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 3: nonsense last week that we missed that you would have

523
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 3: liked us here to participate with you in dak Yes,

524
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 3: let's start with that. Let's starting to do I thought

525
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 3: you're going to do cousins at Chipotle.

526
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 5: Hold on, that's true.

527
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 4: Yes he was a japan.

528
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Speaker 3: I know, but I thought that would have been a

529
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Speaker 3: fun one fast too.

530
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Speaker 5: I'm like, hit out of here him.

531
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Speaker 4: But the dak one, Miles garretts here because that has

532
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 4: an untradable contract.

533
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Speaker 3: I feel like we've talked about we talked about this

534
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, and we went around and

535
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 3: went to every team in the league, and we're like,

536
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 3: who's got a guy? Who could want a guy? And

537
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 3: there's the natural of like you know, Jerry resetting the

538
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 3: Cowboys and all of that.

539
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 4: The problem is they just gave him the deal.

540
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Speaker 3: It was.

541
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Speaker 4: It was the day of opening day against it was

542
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Speaker 4: ann that morning.

543
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Speaker 3: It was I think you're right, yeah, that Sunday morning.

544
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 4: It was that morning.

545
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was one that we could to pour

546
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 3: water on that right away.

547
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 4: It just no chance. It just can't happen.

548
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 5: I wake up Friday morning. We've got a nice we

549
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 5: got a nice show for the kids that that I've

550
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 5: put together so we can have a nice day off

551
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,959
Speaker 5: and enjoy enjoyed the nice quality rain showers. Sure, you know,

552
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 5: average weather at best. Uh, And we're whining and dining,

553
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 5: people are trying out quarterbacks. I'm like, all right, great,

554
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna do an opening segment that recaps all

555
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 5: of this and we'll see on Monday. We'll see on

556
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 5: because I don't know anything else right now.

557
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Speaker 4: I mean the best part was on the dack thing

558
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 4: that that that Dryden was based. Like, I don't know,

559
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 4: but if it does happen, you heard it here.

560
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 3: You heard it here first. Yeah, Okay, well there you go.

561
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 3: Now Cousins was at Chipotle, correct, is it a barbecue?

562
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 4: Do we know? Why?

563
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 7: No? But not.

564
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 4: And not allowed a lot of there was the last

565
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 4: speculation that he was here to visit doctor Voss.

566
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, the I so I died some radio

567
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 3: yesterday buddy Mine in Atlanta. So he goes, can you

568
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 3: come in and talk about Cousins? And so we were

569
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 3: doing it and I said, I go, I'm gonna lean

570
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 3: lean on you on this heath because from my vantage point,

571
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,719
Speaker 3: the only way that Cousins becomes available is if the

572
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 3: Falcons do him a solid and do the Russ Wilson

573
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 3: thing right, pay him a bunch of money to.

574
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 4: Play someone else.

575
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 3: That's because he's like, well, and it was like, wow,

576
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: they could maybe do a trade. I'm like, yeah, but

577
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: the Browns can't. We can't take on twenty eight million

578
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 3: dollars in salary either.

579
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 4: It just doesn't work.

580
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 3: So like, the only scenario is cut. And then I said,

581
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 3: if it's a video game, it makes sense. He played

582
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 3: in Minnesota with Stefanski. They had great success video game wise.

583
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 3: It makes all the sense of the world. Not a dome,

584
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: but it isn't a dome.

585
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 4: And as indoor outdoor splits are, yeah, striking.

586
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 3: But it would make sense if you're playing a video game.

587
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 3: But everything else, like the idea that they're gonna get

588
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 3: compensation for Cousins. I just don't even see the landing

589
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 3: spot at this point.

590
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 4: It could end up being the Steelers if Rogers doesn't. Yes,

591
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 4: but I've heard and this is more, this isn't score,

592
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 4: This is just a speculation. I've heard that Arthur Blank

593
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 4: is like, I'm not paying him to not be here,

594
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 4: and I don't blame him for the mean either.

595
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 7: Correct.

596
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 4: You guys told me to bring him in here. I

597
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 4: wrote this big check. Yeah, Michael Pennix is a long

598
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 4: injury history. Yeah, we think we have a good team. Yeah,

599
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 4: he's a great backup, and I have to pay him regardless. Ye,

600
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 4: So I'm not paying him to not be here, not

601
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 4: doing it, not doing it. I think I hoped that

602
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 4: today and that quote from Jimmy hasm that we gave

603
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 4: you guys like you don't get that kind of real

604
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 4: honesty in sports often, and I hope that that is.

605
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 4: I hope people can at least appreciate that and understand

606
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 4: that everything that can be done to get this right

607
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 4: will be done. Whether that that doesn't guarantee any type

608
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 4: of an outcome, but I don't know. I've always had

609
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 4: a lot of respect for that is a very honest decision.

610
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 4: I think that is as we talked about, that is

611
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 4: very old school leadership to say that iceon checks. This

612
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 4: is my company. So at the end of the day,

613
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 4: every decisions made ultimately rests with me, even though I

614
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 4: empower people to do their jobs, but so put it

615
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 4: on us and we're going to try to get it right.

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00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 4: And it was it was. I mean, unfortunately that did

617
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 4: not work the way that anybody thought it was going

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00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 4: to work. And I think it's important for people, though

619
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 4: to get the full quote which we read on the air.

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00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 4: And again we took a big swing and miss with

621
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Speaker 4: the Shawn. We thought we had the quarterback, we didn't.

622
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 4: We gave up a lot of picks to get him.

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Speaker 4: It was an entire organization decision and it ends with

624
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,719
Speaker 4: D and I sill hold us accountable. Yeah.

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00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: A couple other news and notes from today's morning league

626
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: meetings at Kevin Stefanski's presser. Joint practice's official We will

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Speaker 3: be with Carolina in week one of the preseason for

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Speaker 3: one day of practice and the Philadelphia Eagles in week two.

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Speaker 3: Browns will be the home team in week three of

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Speaker 3: the preseason, so that you will have those joint practices again.

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Speaker 4: You'll just be in Carolina.

632
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 5: You're gonna hit the road.

633
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 4: Gonna hit the road, boys.

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00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 5: Yes, I guess it sounds or it appears like we're

635
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 5: just one joint practice with Carolina. But two we'll have

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00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 5: the full full week experience again in Philadelphia, in Philly,

637
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 5: so we'll run that back, all right.

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Speaker 3: The Hoff is getting a new hip, that's happening.

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00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 4: Yeah. I just I got a picture from him from

640
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 4: the posted it on Instagram.

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00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know that he was doing that. I

642
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: was going to text him about his bb I experience

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00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 3: and see if that was worth something worth replicating.

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00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 4: Yes, look at the Hoff huff in surgery hip replacement

645
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 4: getting ready to go.

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Speaker 5: You're too young for.

647
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 4: Him come back.

648
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 3: So now he's got two things he could be on

649
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: his little bucket list. He could be the first gold

650
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 3: jacket to return to the NFL YEP and he could

651
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Speaker 3: be the first first tackle with a hip replacement to

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Speaker 3: play in the NFL YEP Byana Kip Hoff.

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00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, not gonna get hurt that way.

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Speaker 7: I like it.

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Speaker 4: I like it all right.

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Speaker 3: in Florida at the league meetings.

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Speaker 7: Ies.

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Speaker 4: Florida's beautiful.

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Speaker 7: How was your last visit?

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Speaker 4: Yes, well done, well.

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Speaker 6: Done it Well, I'll say it was very hot, I

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Speaker 6: can tell you. I can tell you that. Look, obviously

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Speaker 6: we were on the road a little bit last week.

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Speaker 6: You know, we had a lot of good time with

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Speaker 6: you know, with a number of the prospects that we

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Speaker 6: saw you know, throughout the country over the last or

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Speaker 6: six five or six days without necessary going to specifics

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Speaker 6: for each visit. Like all of them and this is

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Speaker 6: not just cliche. All of them were really positive visits.

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Speaker 6: And you know, you use the visits for maybe uh

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Speaker 6: different purposes depending on who the prospect is. Obviously with quarterbacks,

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Speaker 6: you want to spend as much time as possible. Some

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Speaker 6: of that might be to get to know their support system.

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Speaker 6: Some of that might be ton't to you know, get

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Speaker 6: a sense of like where they are from a baseline

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Speaker 6: standpoint with their their football knowledge coming into league. And

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Speaker 6: some of them may be physical. You may want to

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Speaker 6: see them make a you know, make a number of

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Speaker 6: different throws that maybe they didn't do as much on tape.

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Speaker 6: So it just it really just depends on depends on

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Speaker 6: the prospect. But a big part of is just getting

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Speaker 6: to spend time with you know, with the individuals, and

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Speaker 6: that was certainly fruitful of the last couple of days.

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Speaker 4: Why the private workouts, what do you get out of those.

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Speaker 6: That they want? Don't it a regularly prop So it's

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Speaker 6: two things. Sometimes honestly, it's just like logistics, just because

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Speaker 6: you know, with the pro day schedules in the screen,

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Speaker 6: we're trying we actually try to be like pretty cognizant

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Speaker 6: of the fact that usually guys, when they're particularly quarterbacks,

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Speaker 6: that they're preparing for a script at the pro day,

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Speaker 6: like as a courtesy, you try not to necessarily overburden

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Speaker 6: them like beforehand. And so as part of it is

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Speaker 6: maybe a little bit like just just logistics as you're

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Speaker 6: trying to fit in you know, a number of different workouts.

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Speaker 6: But then the other part of it is you have

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Speaker 6: maybe a little bit more control over how the day

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Speaker 6: goes because there may be some some throws that go

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Speaker 6: into like a script that you know maybe aren't necessarily

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Speaker 6: a part of your offense or like you've seen them

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Speaker 6: make a thousand times, and you can be a little

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Speaker 6: bit more targeted with the right.

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Speaker 8: Andrew, what would you attribute to at this point all

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Speaker 8: season only adding one one quarterback?

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Speaker 6: You can change Canning pick it?

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Speaker 8: And do you think that free agent quarterbacks will maybe

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Speaker 8: concerned about the prospects that you picking a quarterback at

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Speaker 8: two and then your own getting your serve that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a good it's a good question, Daniel. I

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Speaker 6: think that you know, number one where you know where

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Speaker 6: March thirtieth, you know, we don't play games till September.

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Speaker 6: You know, we'll continue to build out the quarterback room,

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Speaker 6: no different than the other you know, positional rooms. So

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Speaker 6: you know, I'm not not really necessarily too worried about

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Speaker 6: that part of it in terms of, uh, you know,

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Speaker 6: veteran quarterbacks, and then maybe still worry the concern of

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Speaker 6: us having the number two overall pick. I think each

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Speaker 6: case is different. And I think probably if like you're

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Speaker 6: a veteran quarterback on the market, and even if you're us,

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Speaker 6: and as we think about how we want to transition

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Speaker 6: different parts of the roster, every fit is not necessarily

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Speaker 6: going to be perfect. So like, yeah, I'm sure there

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Speaker 6: there absolutely are some some veterans that you know, would

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Speaker 6: be apprehensive about going to any team that has a

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Speaker 6: high pick in the draft, you know, with the you know,

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Speaker 6: with the concerns like, hey, am I essentially going to

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Speaker 6: be a placeholder for you know, a highly drafted quarterback.

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Speaker 6: I think that concern, you know, is very real for

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Speaker 6: some you know, for some veteran quarterbacks on the on

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Speaker 6: the marketplace. You know that all being said, I wouldn't

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Speaker 6: say that was necessarily a driver for you know, some

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Speaker 6: of our decisions so far. But yeah, I think that

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Speaker 6: definitely that dynamic definitely exists in the marketplace in seemingly.

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Speaker 1: Sure that they are church.

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Speaker 4: What are the chances that beam?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so I guess i'd say, like at this point

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Speaker 6: in the process, you know, anything is anything is possible. Candidly,

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't necessarily see that as likely. You know, there

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Speaker 6: are there are a number of players that that you

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Speaker 6: know that we like, you know, in this draft, you know,

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Speaker 6: relatively high. But you know, I think as we come

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Speaker 6: to really the end of March, first week of April,

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Speaker 6: like we're we're you know, coming down the home stretch,

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Speaker 6: so to speak about, you know, probably the player assessment

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Speaker 6: phase of of the draft process. And then you know,

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Speaker 6: as we really get into the month of April, that's

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Speaker 6: when we really dive into strategy.

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Speaker 7: Would you like it to.

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Speaker 3: Be somewhat because.

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Speaker 6: Because you have you to see, Yeah, i'd say maybe

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Speaker 6: it's like, you know, either or both so to speak, Like,

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Speaker 6: I don't know that I would pin it down to

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Speaker 6: a specific reason. I think even if you look at

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Speaker 6: a story, I don't know that there's ever really been

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Speaker 6: a trade from two to one. I think like it's

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Speaker 6: pretty rare for the number one overall pick to get traded.

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Speaker 6: And I think, you know, some of that may be

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Speaker 6: a part of like who's sitting at the top of

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Speaker 6: the draft, and the other part of it might just

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Speaker 6: be a cost of like, Okay, the cost of going

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Speaker 6: two to one is a lot different than the cost

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Speaker 6: of going from you know, seventy six to seventy five,

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Speaker 6: you know, for instance, And you have to weigh all

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Speaker 6: that in terms of, you know, how how it fits

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Speaker 6: in your overall off season plan and what else you

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Speaker 6: can do in the draft. So I think that's probably

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Speaker 6: why occurs pretty infrequently.

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Speaker 8: Similarly, or have you taken calls on the number two

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Speaker 8: picking or you open So.

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Speaker 6: I'd say like anything like I wouldn't, you know, maybe

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Speaker 6: out of respect to other teams talk about, you know,

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Speaker 6: those type of discussions, but like i'd say, Daniel that

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Speaker 6: you know, we're we're pretty open to anything that we

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Speaker 6: think can be advantageous.

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Speaker 4: To other questions, Like it sounds like.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't say that's necessarily the case, Tony. I think

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Speaker 6: that we're probably just a bit more narrow in our

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Speaker 6: focus in terms of the type of veteran that we think, uh,

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Speaker 6: you know, would fit where we are from a roster

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Speaker 6: perspective where we want that quarterback room to be. I like,

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Speaker 6: I think I think something could happen before the draft.

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Speaker 6: I think, Look, I don't. I wouldn't roll it out

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Speaker 6: that it could happen after the draft. I think that's

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Speaker 6: that's fair as well, But I wouldn't necessarily pin it

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Speaker 6: down to any.

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Speaker 9: One time for its one you young.

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Speaker 6: Uh, it probably depends more on the player than the

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Speaker 6: actual like age, I'd say this like, we'll probably skew

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Speaker 6: young just to be just to be quite frank, you know,

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Speaker 6: I think that that's probably more corporate relative to our

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Speaker 6: relative to our you know, our longer term goals.

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Speaker 8: From your perspective, how of the king making trade come

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Speaker 8: getting it?

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Speaker 6: He he told us.

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Speaker 8: That on his eves, like he was again like he

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Speaker 8: might look to trade you. So, was that like, did

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Speaker 8: you kind of see that out or was more of

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Speaker 8: them reaching out you kind of left?

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Speaker 6: No, it was something that we sought out, Daniel. You know,

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Speaker 6: Kenny was actually someone that you know, even even when

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Speaker 6: Philly traded for him. I guess that was that was

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Speaker 6: last year. It was someone that we were you know,

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Speaker 6: we were interested in at the right cost. Now, the

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Speaker 6: realism of that trade happening between us in Pittsburgh, we

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Speaker 6: realized was was pretty was pretty remote, you know. So

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Speaker 6: you know, with Kenny Uh, you know, a young player.

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Speaker 6: You know, we spent a good amount of time with

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Speaker 6: him during the during the pre draft process when he

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Speaker 6: came out. You know, feel like he's a a good,

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Speaker 6: good decision maker. He does a really good job of

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Speaker 6: protecting the ball. He's very mobile, and we think that

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Speaker 6: like his relative strengths are something that fit well with

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Speaker 6: you know, the offense at work that we're putting into

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Speaker 6: place for this upcoming year. We do think that there

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Speaker 6: was a pretty credible path for him to continue to

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Speaker 6: improve and take us that forward. And I think you've

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Speaker 6: seen that with with players that they get into maybe

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Speaker 6: you know, new or you know, sometimes maybe better environments

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Speaker 6: for their particular path and their career. It's a little

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Speaker 6: bit like you know, when we signed Jacoby in twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty two, it was really a little bit more of

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Speaker 6: an after thought transaction, but we felt like Jacoby was

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Speaker 6: a good decision maker who took care of the ball

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Speaker 6: and probably could make a few more plays than he

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Speaker 6: was given credit for when he was in a really

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Speaker 6: challenging situation. Is last year in Miami, Kenny has I'm

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Speaker 6: not saying Kenny is Jacoby, but he has a similar profile,

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Speaker 6: but with probably a little bit more physical talent. So

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Speaker 6: we're excited to work with him. He'll have a chance

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Speaker 6: to compete for the job. You know, nothing's you know,

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Speaker 6: nothing's you know, nothing's given in that regard, and you know,

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Speaker 6: we will continue to add competition to the room, but

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Speaker 6: we are looking forward to working with If you're the

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Speaker 6: only push he was seeing, or.

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Speaker 4: He's an awesome guy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd say this Tony. I think, you know, maybe respectfully,

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Speaker 6: part of what I said or regarding Travis got you know,

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Speaker 6: maybe perhaps a little overlooked because the first part of

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Speaker 6: that question was like, Okay, hey, like can he play

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Speaker 6: both ways? And I think the answer is yes, Like

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Speaker 6: he can play either position. I think he'll I think

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Speaker 6: he'll play both sides of the ball, you know, in

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Speaker 6: the NFL, I truly do you know how that balance looks?

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Speaker 6: I think depends on the relative schemes on each side

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Speaker 6: of the ball, and then how much he can handle

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Speaker 6: probably more physically than mentally. He's he's brilliant, like he's

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Speaker 6: brilliant for the football standpoint, has rare you know, rare intelligence.

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Speaker 6: So I don't think that there's a I don't think

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Speaker 6: there's necessary a limit in terms of how you can

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Speaker 6: how you can use him, just you know, I think

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Speaker 6: he'll be good at your spot.

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Speaker 7: Is the doors to.

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Speaker 6: Open for Nick to return or.

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Speaker 10: Wa I'd say that, you know, all possibilities are on

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Speaker 10: the table, you know, Daniel, I wouldn't wouldn't necessarily shut

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Speaker 10: it a little there.

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Speaker 6: Obviously, it's got to be the right fit for both sides.

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Speaker 7: For that too.

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Speaker 4: Where does the.

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Speaker 11: Jeremiah, sorry, where where does Jeremiah kind of stand in

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Speaker 11: terms of his progression?

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Speaker 7: And do you.

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Speaker 4: Guys feel optimistic pessimistic?

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00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 7: Where?

880
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I know it's still really early in the year,

881
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 4: but I mean, do you where do you feel.

882
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 6: Like, Yeah, so he's he is, he's progressing, which is

883
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 6: a positive, I'll be honest, Like, it is still a

884
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 6: little bit nebulous in terms of in terms of what

885
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 6: that time frame looks like. So we really are trying

886
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 6: to deal with it, you know, week to week and

887
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 6: month to month.

888
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 3: I like a nebulous reference out of ab there it's

889
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 3: a good it's a.

890
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 4: Very yeah, strong, very strong, strong, very strong. All right.

891
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 3: There you go from your general manager Andrew Berry down

892
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 3: at the league meetings in South Florida.

893
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 4: We will go around the league.

894
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,600
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Speaker 4: Uh, listen, there's a lot going on.

902
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 3: These league meetings are handling being taken place down and south.

903
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 3: They're in Fort Lauderdale or Palm Beach, Palm Beach, paul.

904
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 4: Ooh breakers, that's a cheap room.

905
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 3: Were sure that was one of those ones that used

906
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 3: to look at it would be like a thousand a night.

907
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: You'd be like, god, that's exorbitant, and now it's like

908
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 3: thirty five hundred tonight.

909
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, situation there, that's right.

910
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 3: Mike Tomlins said there he was available today, said there's

911
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 3: no deadline or timetable for Aaron Rodgers. He said, quote,

912
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: I don't know that we've approached it from a deadline perspective.

913
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 3: Certainly you'd like to have settled circumstances, but you know,

914
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: deadlines don't often bring that to a head. That's coming

915
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: on the heels of a report yesterday that Aaron Rodgers

916
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: reportedly at a throwing session with new Steelers wide receiver

917
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: DK Metcalf. Another page in that saga, in Pittsburgh feels

918
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: like Pittsburgh bus for that's it, right, that's the only

919
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 3: he wants to play football. It's in Pittsburgh, and so

920
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: he's probably making that decision and taking his sweet time

921
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 3: to decide.

922
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 4: That is what it sounds like. Yep.

923
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't have like as you were alluding to

924
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 3: in the with the Cousins conversation earlier, they don't really

925
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 3: have a plan b here. I mean Mason Rudolph and

926
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 3: who else is there is Skyler Thompson.

927
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 4: There still Skyler Thompson. Yep, that's it. That's it.

928
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 3: You're not wrong, So there and it's just like if

929
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: Rogers wants to play, you'll play in Pittsburgh.

930
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 4: Yes, that's what it feels like, which.

931
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 3: Is probably not how he saw this all going when

932
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: you entered, when you do the exit from Green Bay,

933
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: you signed with this young Jets team with these flashy young.

934
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 4: Receivers as she loaded defense, loaded.

935
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 3: Defense, big Apple, big lights, bright City, Broadway, Joe, all

936
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 3: of it.

937
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 4: Play four. Yeah, I mean that's that's the part that

938
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 4: is just so crazy about it. But that was reported,

939
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 4: And if you said this, I apologize, But it was

940
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 4: reported because I was scouring for information, but reported that

941
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 4: he had a throwing session at UCLA with DK Metcalf,

942
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 4: which is but does.

943
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 3: He how much of this stuff does he just do

944
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: just so that we talk about it sometimes, But like

945
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 3: seems so odd.

946
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 4: Are you trying to see if you're gonna have chemistry

947
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 4: with DK Metcalf. I'm pretty sure you are. I would say,

948
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 4: just throw it up, throw it up, let him go

949
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 4: get it. Yeah. I think that's a very interesting scenario.

950
00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 4: I don't quite understand what's going on. Yeah, And I

951
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 4: don't understand from a Steeler's perspective. Now, granted you have

952
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 4: a lot of time, but given everything we've heard about

953
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers in the way that he wants to run

954
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 4: an offense, and yeah, the kind of like that he

955
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 4: needs to come to the more of the modern NFL.

956
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 4: I would think you'd want him in your building as

957
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 4: soon as possible.

958
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, I would think so too. I just think

959
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh is it's a rare thing for them. They're just

960
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: they're in a rare situation of being desperate.

961
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 4: The other thing. But the weird thing is, while we

962
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 4: were both gone, it came out that the you know,

963
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 4: they had that meeting while we were on vacation where

964
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 4: he came to Pittsburgh and had like an all day

965
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 4: meeting with them.

966
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 3: Yes, that he called for that, he asked for that meeting.

967
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 3: Not the Steelers, I don't know, but you can't tell me.

968
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 3: Skyler Thompson, Mason Rudolph like that can't be.

969
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I'll be honest. They would have been better

970
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 4: off just keeping Kenny. It's gonna say right now. I

971
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 4: bet they would much rather have Kenny Picken and quite frankly,

972
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 4: he would run the Arthur Smith offense much better than

973
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 4: he ran the Matt Canne offense, which everybody agreed was

974
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 4: the worst. Yeah. I mean, if there is one, and

975
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 4: I know, are we playing Kevin in here?

976
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 5: Yeah?

977
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 4: He's next next. So He's very effusive in his praise

978
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 4: of Kenny Pickett. Again, I bite at the apple. I

979
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 4: don't think necessarily the solution, but maybe it turns out

980
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 4: to be a wonderful reclamation project than he is. But

981
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 4: I'll fifteen and ten as a starter, seven game winning drives.

982
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 4: I mean, that's not bad. That's not bad. And he

983
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 4: was in an awful offense. This is going to be

984
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 4: a much better offense. It's going to hopefully play into

985
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 4: his skill set. I was reading something today about Jackson

986
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 4: Dart where somebody called him a less athletic Kenny Pickett. Well,

987
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 4: we've got Kenny Pickett him. That was an AFC scout

988
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 4: that had said that.

989
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah. That's kind of the way

990
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 3: that all that's shaken out. John Harbaugh sent a massive

991
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 3: three year extension with the Ravens. The other thing, where

992
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 3: are you on this tush push stuff? I heard Kevin's

993
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 3: comments and it'll be part of his I don't understand

994
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 3: the idea of ruling out a play and one team

995
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: does really effectively.

996
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 4: It's it's sour grapes if you can't and there's no

997
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 4: injury data to support now, they should get rid of it.

998
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 4: I don't love it. I don't like it, but but

999
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 4: cool stop it. You would like to think that everybody

1000
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 4: should be able to get someone as adept at it

1001
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 4: as Jalen Hurts. What makes him unique as a quarterback.

1002
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 4: He gets good leverage, and he's incredibly strong. His ability

1003
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 4: to do squats and all of that. You'd almost imagine

1004
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 4: you have fifty three roster spots if you had a

1005
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 4: guy on your team. Find a guy that can have

1006
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 4: a low center of gravity and can really squat and

1007
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 4: can take a snap. Yeah, that's a worthwhile thing. You've

1008
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 4: just eliminated ten percent of the necessary yards to get

1009
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 4: a first down. Now, if that's what the league turns

1010
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 4: into a bunch of just like rugby scrums every time

1011
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 4: it's third and two, that's ugly.

1012
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 3: But I don't know why am I blanket on the

1013
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 3: tight end?

1014
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 4: We did it with for a second.

1015
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, then we have the kid from Florida or that

1016
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 3: your yeah, Harrison Harrison Ryan did Yeah, he would come

1017
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: out there, but then he like, yeah, that's what makes hurt.

1018
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: It's really it's a Hurts problem because of the amount

1019
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 3: of strength he has in his lower body.

1020
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 4: But that I feel like you could find like Tebow would.

1021
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 3: Have thrived at that because he had that type of

1022
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 3: strength in his lower body, Like if if he would

1023
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 3: have a place on a roster. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so

1024
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 3: you would that that's something that Yeah, I don't like

1025
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 3: legislating out something that one team does really well, just

1026
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 3: out of I think he used the word Reich sour grapes.

1027
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 3: Interesting thing out at the farm in Stanford. Ex Colts

1028
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 3: and Panthers head coach Frank Reich has agreed to deal

1029
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 3: become the team's interim head coach at Stanford. It's a

1030
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 3: one season agreement. Afterwards, Stanford will launch a national search.

1031
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 3: Do you know who's running the Stanford program?

1032
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 4: Andrew Luck, he's running it. He got the coach out

1033
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 4: of there and he brought into command. Yeah, it's right.

1034
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 4: Reike ever with him in northern California. Yeah, he had

1035
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 4: to be right. The end of Andrew Luck's career would

1036
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 4: have been with Frank Craik. Yep.

1037
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 3: And that's one of those ones where in this era

1038
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 3: college football and college athletics, it'll just be how much

1039
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 3: does Stanford want to be good at football? They're in

1040
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 3: the ACC, so their money's not great, but they got

1041
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 3: a thirty six billion dollar endowment, which is third in

1042
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 3: the country to only Harvard and Yale.

1043
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 4: So they have all the money in the world.

1044
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 3: If they have people who say, we want Stanford to

1045
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 3: be a football power, they can be a football power

1046
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 3: totally right.

1047
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 4: Checks It's so to me, the demise of the Pac

1048
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 4: ten is gross, awful, awful. It's awful. It's awful.

1049
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 5: It's sad, really, And when you first look at it,

1050
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 5: you go, well, that's going to hurt recruiting, and then

1051
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 5: you realize recruiting doesn't matter because it's a yearly thing.

1052
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 5: It's a free agency period at the end of every season.

1053
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: I know we have some basketball talk here. That's what's

1054
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 3: happened to the tournament is exactly that. So, yeah, it's

1055
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 3: a and it's do you have money to compensate and

1056
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 3: then do you have culture that you can keep.

1057
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 4: That's that's kind of the idea there.

1058
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 3: Deon Sanders with an extension of Colorado five years, fifty

1059
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 3: four million, making him one of the highest one know

1060
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 3: what it.

1061
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 5: Costs for him to get out of it. If the

1062
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 5: NFL comes calling, what.

1063
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 3: It caught, Yeah, that's viable. I think he's done one

1064
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 3: of the best jobs in the Country. They were the

1065
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 3: worst Power five program when he took the job. They

1066
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: became relevant right away. They were a ten win team

1067
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 3: last year in the mix for the playoff. One of

1068
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 3: Heisman kids, kid's going to be a first round pick,

1069
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter is going to be second position player off

1070
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 3: the board.

1071
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe first, maybe first.

1072
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, it's been that's that's been a home

1073
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 3: run higher for him. And we will be out there Friday, right,

1074
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 3: Is that what I saw?

1075
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 4: Ye? Browns will be out there Friday, the.

1076
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 3: Big pro day for Shudor and get a chance to

1077
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 3: meet with him.

1078
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 4: All right.

1079
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: Second out of the program coming up next included in

1080
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: that Kevin Stefanski down with the media in Florida at

1081
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 3: the league meetings. You have that to look forward to,

1082
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Speaker 3: today for the Ultimate Game Day as your head coach

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Speaker 3: Kevin Sepanski down in Florida, I know you've.

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Speaker 5: Met with a lot of these these prospects, you know,

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Speaker 5: more substantial than you need you had when we touch you.

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Speaker 4: With the time hind. What sort of you take away,

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Speaker 4: especially if the guys who you know, the guys kind

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Speaker 4: of at the top of the draft shooting or you know,

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Speaker 4: absolue here man, and just what you've gained from those

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Speaker 4: meetings in their person house.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's been a really interesting process to date, if

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Speaker 9: you think about it. We've met with the guys at

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Speaker 9: the combine, We've done some campus visits, We've had guys

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Speaker 9: up into our building, and we'll continue those into April.

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Speaker 9: I can't tell you how impressed I am by all

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Speaker 9: these guys. They've been raised the right way. Get to

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Speaker 9: know them, get to know their families. You know, there's

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Speaker 9: a lot that goes into playing this game, but having

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Speaker 9: the support off the field is so important, and I

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Speaker 9: think a lot of guys like you mentioned are very

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Speaker 9: very well equipped for this type of.

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Speaker 8: Role when it comes to these like private workout's get

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Speaker 8: some of these quarterbacks. What does it look like?

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Speaker 4: What do you like to see?

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Speaker 3: What do you hope to need from you?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think when you're seeing a quarterback throw live,

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Speaker 9: obviously have the pro day which is scripted, and they've

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Speaker 9: run through that script and they have their receivers and

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Speaker 9: it's very you.

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Speaker 7: Know, efficient, and they do a great job. Also.

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Speaker 9: The nice part then at a private is you can

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Speaker 9: kind of put them on your own script and you

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Speaker 9: can ask them to make a couple throws or put

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Speaker 9: them out of order, or challenge them a little bit.

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Speaker 9: Or I think maybe the coolest thing to do is

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Speaker 9: give them a coaching point and say, hey, try and

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Speaker 9: take two steps off of that drop, or let's see

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Speaker 9: if we can throw it this way, or you know,

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Speaker 9: put your eyes here and just watch them take coaching.

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Speaker 9: So I think, uh that that private you have a

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Speaker 9: little bit more, say in the evaluation piece right there

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Speaker 9: on the grass, but either way you get to up

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Speaker 9: close see how the ball comes out of the quarterback's hands. Say,

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Speaker 9: I think It goes back to Chris's question, A very

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Speaker 9: impressive young man has been coached really well.

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Speaker 7: You know Joe Judges down.

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Speaker 9: There as as his quarterback coach, and Joe's you know,

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Speaker 9: former NFL head coach, former special teams coach offense defense,

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Speaker 9: so Joe kind of knows the game.

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Speaker 7: So you can tell that he's been.

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Speaker 9: Really well, uh well coached and brought along the right

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Speaker 9: way in this in this game. So uh impressive off

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Speaker 9: the field and then did a nice job on the

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Speaker 9: field as well.

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Speaker 7: Quick follow up on art.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if someone like that and suns that

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Speaker 8: people raises maybe the style of offense that he played

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Speaker 8: in an old miss there it being.

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Speaker 7: A spread out r field offense.

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Speaker 8: How do you kind of you know, just avoue of

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Speaker 8: you know, the train, how like thats.

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Speaker 7: Like take that from Yeah, I think that's probably overstated.

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Speaker 9: I don't know that there's a huge difference in what

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Speaker 9: colleges are doing and what people are doing in.

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Speaker 7: The pros these days.

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Speaker 9: There's certainly elements that you're gonna ask a quarterback to

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Speaker 9: do differently regardless of what school he came from. So

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Speaker 9: I don't think that there's a concern there.

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Speaker 7: No, I'm not ready to turn the card in yet.

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Speaker 7: Very okay. I think.

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Speaker 4: The whole process is.

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Speaker 7: Really important to me and to us.

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Speaker 9: And there's still quarterbacks that we haven't seen throw live,

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Speaker 9: still haven't gotten to uh.

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Speaker 7: Spend time with them.

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Speaker 9: We have guys that were still gonna bring up for

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Speaker 9: our thirty and then we have our coaches meetings, you know,

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Speaker 9: as you know, you have lots of meetings in the

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Speaker 9: personnel department, and it's you have February meetings and you

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Speaker 9: have March meetings. Then we have our final April meetings

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Speaker 9: with the coaches and you get to solidify the order.

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Speaker 7: But I told you guys this before, I'll say it again.

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Speaker 9: I like a lot of guys in this class, not

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Speaker 9: just a quarterback position.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 9: I think this is an exciting time because there's really

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Speaker 9: really good football players.

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Speaker 11: Whoever you get when that guy plays, is that completely

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Speaker 11: dependent on who it.

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Speaker 9: Is, like the situation and if you put a time

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Speaker 9: went on quarterback position.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot of questions about the quarterback poisition.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, of course, I think every situation is different, Every

1184
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Speaker 9: player is different.

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Speaker 7: What they're ready to do and when they're ready to

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Speaker 7: do it.

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Speaker 9: You just have to trust in your ability to discern

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Speaker 9: that with them in your building.

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Speaker 7: So I think that totally varies by player.

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Speaker 8: He spell a lot maybe yesterday about Travis Hunter as

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Speaker 8: a cross about mside the.

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Speaker 6: Ball, But as a wide receiver.

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Speaker 8: What do you like about the skill set and how

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Speaker 8: he might how he could fit.

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Speaker 2: In maybe offense.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he's an outstanding player, an outstanding young man. Fun

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Speaker 9: to spend time with him. Elite ball skills. I don't

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Speaker 9: know if there's been better. Truly, this kid's special when

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Speaker 9: the ball is in the air. You know, he's had

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Speaker 9: a ton.

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Speaker 7: Of production in the college game. And then what he's

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Speaker 7: I know by the way he's doing it for both

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Speaker 7: sides of the ball.

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Speaker 9: So but as a receiver, obviously I think room to grow,

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Speaker 9: but certainly has the elite ball skills you.

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Speaker 7: I think he'll do that. At the same time, I

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Speaker 7: think it's a good.

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Speaker 9: Question, Jason. I think a lot of every team is

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Speaker 9: having that discussion.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 7: I think he's very capable of both.

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Speaker 9: How you structure it, where you start him quote unquote,

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Speaker 9: UH is really important to figure out.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 7: I could see both sides of it.

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Speaker 9: I could see him as a wide receiver that moonlights

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Speaker 9: at defensive back. The easier thing that people you've seen

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Speaker 9: over the years is the defensive back that then gets

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Speaker 9: package of play. So every team is talking through that

1220
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Speaker 9: and how they would structure it. But this is a

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Speaker 9: unique young man and his ability to do both. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: very excited about Kenny.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 9: We've had him up into our building and just you know,

1225
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Speaker 9: the brief time talking to him, understanding what he knows

1226
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Speaker 9: about this game and and how how he's been coached.

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Speaker 9: I caught up with some of his former coaches in

1228
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Speaker 9: Philly and filled me in on on the type of.

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Speaker 7: Person, type of players.

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Speaker 9: So excited for Kenny and the opportunity to see what

1231
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Speaker 9: he's capable of and and he's got the right makeup

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Speaker 9: for it.

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Speaker 4: Said fis what a guy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I think he's a very intelligent, accurate passer. But he's

1236
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Speaker 9: somebody that you know, you've seen it from him. He's

1237
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Speaker 9: made plays and games. He's he's won football games with

1238
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Speaker 9: great decision making. He's a plus athlete. I've seen him

1239
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Speaker 9: make all the throws. So I really think he fits

1240
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Speaker 9: in in whatever you're at, whatever you're.

1241
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Speaker 7: Planning on doing. But talent overall player.

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Speaker 11: So you didn't talk to Philly with that Duel Carter

1243
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Speaker 11: last week, but I assumed he didn't he came there.

1244
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Speaker 9: Yeah, we talked a lot. You know, he went to

1245
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Speaker 9: LaSalle High School. I went to Saint Jose Prep. And

1246
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Speaker 9: that's like oil and water. So uh, right away I said, hey,

1247
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Speaker 9: did you know where I went to high school? And

1248
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Speaker 9: said I heard I says this is gonna be a problem.

1249
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Speaker 9: They said no, So uh so we broke the ice.

1250
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Speaker 9: But uh, very very impressive young man.

1251
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Speaker 8: Uh.

1252
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Speaker 7: I know a lot of people that know him.

1253
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Speaker 9: Whether going back to high school and certainly throughout his college. Uh,

1254
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Speaker 9: but really really impressive, young man.

1255
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Speaker 4: Are you more involved this year with the visibly the

1256
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Speaker 4: quarterbacks that maybe been even in the in the past

1257
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Speaker 4: in terms of this this time period.

1258
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Speaker 9: I'm not saying you've never but yeah, I mean well,

1259
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Speaker 9: I think the rare part is obviously having the second

1260
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Speaker 9: overall pick picks.

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Speaker 7: At the top of the round.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

1263
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Speaker 9: You you want to be able to see these guys

1264
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Speaker 9: so we've seen them live.

1265
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Speaker 7: That that'd be the difference this year.

1266
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Speaker 3: Were young talked to bout the duel Carter, wort see him,

1267
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Speaker 3: there's more.

1268
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Speaker 5: Overs move all over all over.

1269
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Speaker 9: I think he's capable certainly Tony. He's been an off

1270
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Speaker 9: the ball linebacker, he's been an edge rusher, he's rushed

1271
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Speaker 9: from the inside. So certainly, when you're evaluating a player,

1272
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Speaker 9: a lot of the discussion then turns into fit and

1273
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Speaker 9: how you would utilize said player. So we've had a

1274
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Speaker 9: lot of conversations with Jim and the defensive staff on

1275
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Speaker 9: all these guys and obviously Abdual somebody. You talk about

1276
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 9: where you would line them up, and I don't think

1277
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Speaker 9: there's a limiting factor there where you would put them.

1278
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Speaker 11: Because you have this high pick that you never want

1279
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 11: to have to get through the correct I need it,

1280
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 11: So if it's close to that, push it towards pointy back.

1281
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Speaker 9: Yeah. From where I sit, I'm excited that we're going

1282
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 9: to get a really, really good football player on this roster.

1283
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Speaker 9: That's for us to talk through in terms of which

1284
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 9: player that is or if it's a trade back. You

1285
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 9: know you're moving back, you're still getting players you like

1286
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 9: and you're picking up players. So I think everything is

1287
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 9: available to us. But I think it's something that we'll

1288
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 9: talk through over the course of the next month, because

1289
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 9: we I mean, a lot of these guys have free

1290
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 9: you know, your four years, five year.

1291
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Speaker 4: I mean we have a lot of these here's the

1292
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 4: team with these guys in them action. How do you

1293
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 4: how do you what you see? You know, how much

1294
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 4: can what goes on these two.

1295
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Speaker 6: Three months with you know, between ten the season of the.

1296
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Speaker 4: Draft over overshadows mo.

1297
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a it's a good question, Chris. And these

1298
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Speaker 9: guys have a ton of starts. And the tape is

1299
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 9: the most important piece of this. The tape is your resume.

1300
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 9: It's the thing that we look at the hardest. And

1301
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Speaker 9: when I say the tape, the overall valuation of the

1302
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 9: player on tape. Having said that, there's a lot that

1303
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 9: goes into a person's makeup that you have to spend

1304
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 9: time with them to get to know. So certainly our

1305
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 9: scouts do a great job of information gathering throughout the

1306
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 9: fall and understanding who the players are. But I think

1307
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 9: you want to rhythm up with the players. You want

1308
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 9: to get to know them, You want your coaches to

1309
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 9: get to know them. You want to put them through

1310
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Speaker 9: you know, uh, put them through an install We we

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Speaker 9: kind of put our guys through a bit of a test.

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Speaker 9: And when we go and meet with them and give

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Speaker 9: them a playbook and see what they retain and that

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Speaker 9: type of thing. So that's the piece that you can't

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Speaker 9: measure on the tape and that's an important part of

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Speaker 9: this process for us.

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Speaker 7: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 3: All right, there you go, your head coach Kevin Stefanski

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Speaker 3: down at the league meetings in Palm Beach.

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Speaker 4: We will go around the sports world.

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Speaker 3: We are to the final four and something happened for

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Speaker 3: the first time since two thousand and eight. I get

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Speaker 3: a pretty good idea why. We'll share that with you.

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Speaker 4: How's our bracket? How are we doing? G mande bye, welcomparable?

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01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 4: I missed you guys coming in a big way. You

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01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 4: always come you always in our situations in a big way.

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Speaker 1: For life, baby, all right, brackets bad, bad, really bad.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing before you get into it. What college

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Speaker 3: basketball has turned into makes what we did. We'll explain

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Speaker 3: this a little bit later, makes this very difficult.

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Speaker 1: Because absolutely so. Uh two, we had two of the

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Speaker 1: elite eight teams. Correct, it was Duke in Alabama. That

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Speaker 1: was the branding bracket. You guys had Duke winning it

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Speaker 1: all over North Carolina. Final four was North Carolina Duke

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Speaker 1: Tech Tech in u c l A.

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Speaker 4: Texas Tech was close.

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Speaker 1: Close, so, you know, not awful, could be better. Six

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Speaker 1: to sixteen on the sweet sixteen. You know, first round

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Speaker 1: on the right side of the bracket was actually pretty decent.

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Speaker 1: I mean by Mike count only missed five games. Picked

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Speaker 1: Montana over Wisconsin, picked Mississippi State over Baylor, Vanderbilt over

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Speaker 1: Saint Mary's.

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Speaker 3: And uniforms branding, which yeah, what was top left? Top

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Speaker 3: left Radio radio shows bottom left.

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Speaker 4: North Carolina crushed US.

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Speaker 3: What was the bottom one mascot fight was botb left

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Speaker 3: and so Red Raiders emerged. Yep, it was Red Raiders

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Speaker 3: Sooners in that regional final. Yeah, well, I mean that

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Speaker 3: makes some sense.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: So the actual bracket I did ended up having three

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Speaker 3: of the four final four. The only one I didn't

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Speaker 3: have a Saint John's I had them in. They were

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Speaker 3: bounced sturly by Arkansas, folks. This is college basketball in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. And what it is is it's the

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Speaker 3: end of the mid major and it's the end of Cinderella.

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Speaker 3: So if you don't watch college basketball time and I

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Speaker 3: totally get it. I don't watch a lot of it

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Speaker 3: until this time of year. But for example, Johnny Broome

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Speaker 3: best player for Auburn, he started at Morehead State.

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Speaker 1: Two years at Morehead State, Ohio Valley Conference defensive player

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Speaker 1: of the Year.

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Speaker 3: So there are circumstances like that on every team.

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Speaker 4: Duke is built kind.

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Speaker 3: Of in the more traditional one and done way where

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Speaker 3: they have this best freshman class, transcendent player.

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Speaker 4: And cup and.

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Speaker 3: Flag, and so they're built kind of in the old school, traditional, big,

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Speaker 3: huge recruiting class. Some veterans, but everybody else it's and

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Speaker 3: that part of it beams.

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Speaker 4: He was saying this to me yesterday.

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Speaker 3: He's like, just feels like it's not exciting, and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 4: It's fun.

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Speaker 3: Cinderella is fun. Ideally, Cinderella is fun in the first

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Speaker 3: weekend and then they extinguish themselves in the Elite eight.

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Speaker 3: You don't want them in the final.

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Speaker 4: Four, right, because then you end up with blowouts.

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, they're not built to go beyond that point.

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Speaker 3: But we had a couple of years ago before nil

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Speaker 3: you had incredible parody. Yes, you remember that one that

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Speaker 3: had like it was like San Diego State.

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Speaker 1: San Diego Staten Sega, Florida, Atlantic.

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Speaker 3: And Atlantic in Miami. That was the final four. There's

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Speaker 3: another one that had San Diego State play San Diego

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Speaker 3: State played Yukon for a final. And then there was

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Speaker 3: one where it was Texas Tech against Virginia final.

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Speaker 1: That one was twenty nineteen. It was Texas Tech, Auburn,

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Speaker 1: Michigan State and.

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Speaker 4: Virgin Virginia. Yeah, because Virginia won it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So you had this crazy parody in the sport

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Speaker 3: and that the blue Bloods were doing one and done.

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Speaker 3: And they weren't able to turn it into anything substantially.

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Speaker 3: And so you had these mid majors or mid level majors,

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Speaker 3: Power four conferences now where guys were there three and

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Speaker 3: four years.

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Speaker 4: And they were built to play good bit team basket

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Speaker 4: of good team basketball.

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Speaker 3: Now, so what you have is a league like the

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Speaker 3: SEC that said, we're gonna put all of our money

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Speaker 3: in football, men's and women's basketball, baseball and softball, and

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Speaker 3: we're only gonna have sixteen team sports and all our

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Speaker 3: money's going there and we're gonna be great at it,

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Speaker 3: and they are. So it's done. You're not gonna see

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Speaker 3: George Mason again. You're not gonna see Florida Atlantic again.

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Speaker 3: You're not Mark Sears, who hit seventy five threes in

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Speaker 3: the Sweet sixteen game. He played a year at Ohio

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Speaker 3: ou oh yeah, yeah, he was an Ohio bobcat yep.

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Speaker 3: And then he played four years at Alabama after one

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Speaker 3: year ago Ohhio. So like all of that is done,

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Speaker 3: for better or worse.

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Speaker 4: I guess it just depends on your perspective.

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Speaker 3: First time since eight all Ones reached the Final four.

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Speaker 4: I do remember seeing a graphic on the Elite eight

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Speaker 4: teams as Arizona was still in So it must have

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Speaker 4: been Sweet sixteen because Arizona lost of Duke yep and

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Speaker 4: it had their starting fives and it had the college

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Speaker 4: logo of where they all began their college careers. And

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Speaker 4: there were really there's maybe one team or two that

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Speaker 4: had three or more of the guys on the team

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Speaker 4: that started with the team.

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Speaker 1: There was one school that had all five of their

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Speaker 1: starting five stars at school.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, was a Duke, Purdue boiler Makers. Oh Purdue. They

1441
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 4: were all Purdue, who's like Arizona had zero, they're thirty five.

1442
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Speaker 4: Not a single person was recruited to Arizona, which is nuts.

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Speaker 3: I mean Kentucky's entire team Mark Pope had to turn

1444
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 3: it over year to year. When Mark Pope took the

1445
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 3: job at Kentucky, he had nobody on the roster. Said

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Speaker 3: he get all these kids from BYU and San Diego

1447
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 3: State guys because he coached at BYU. Said he get

1448
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Speaker 3: them to come to Kentucky. Those kids played for Kentucky,

1449
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 3: which is as blue as it gets as a blue blood.

1450
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 3: And then they're but they were one year. Reynolds, Arkansas

1451
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Speaker 3: has Kentucky's team from last year Arkansas had it all

1452
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 3: those when Peyd and I went down there for the practice,

1453
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 3: those are all the kids who played at Kentucky and

1454
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 3: now they all play at Arkansas.

1455
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Speaker 4: Yep.

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01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 3: So like you are flip being a roster entirely year

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01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 3: to year. I don't know if it's good or bad.

1458
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,919
Speaker 3: I think it's probably fine because most people probably only

1459
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 3: watch college basketball for this month, So I think it's

1460
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 3: probably fine.

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01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead, given.

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Speaker 5: You cannot have a transfer portal open in the middle

1463
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Speaker 5: of tournament. It's the same thing with the college football playoff.

1464
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 5: They have got to stop opening portals for coaches for players.

1465
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:33,439
Speaker 5: Seventeen hundred college basketball players entered the portal. There aren't

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Speaker 5: even seventeen hundred scholarships.

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Speaker 3: At least the college Here's what makes this one for

1468
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 3: folks who don't know. The basketball portal men's and women's

1469
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 3: basketball portal opened in the middle of March, so it

1470
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Speaker 3: opened after the first weekend of the NIBLA tournament. So

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Speaker 3: what that means is a kid can put their name

1472
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Speaker 3: in a portal and they can then be contacted by

1473
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 3: other teams to incentivize them to go to a new team.

1474
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 3: While the NCIBELA tournament is going on fotball thing happens too.

1475
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 3: It happens like December sixteenth, so it's in the middle

1476
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 3: of the playoff football. Though at least you can say

1477
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 3: this there is some sort of guys of academia that

1478
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 3: they're hiding behind because it's in between semesters, right end

1479
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 3: of the semester at start of a new one. There

1480
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 3: is no reason for there to be a basketball portal

1481
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Speaker 3: open right now.

1482
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Speaker 4: None.

1483
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 3: Correct, There is no school in the country that has

1484
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 3: that is in between quarters right now? Who the hell

1485
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 3: is still on the quarter system? And would it even

1486
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 3: match up? You're in the middle of the second semester.

1487
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's how would even how are we going

1488
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 3: to even act like academically? Can you imagine like in

1489
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 3: your junior year at Emery, if you're like in March,

1490
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 3: you're like, yeah, I'm gonna transfer, I'm gonna go to Vanderbilt,

1491
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 3: And Vanderbilt's like, okay, that's fine, but you just need

1492
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 3: to wait till the end of this year to your

1493
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 3: credit transfer.

1494
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 4: You're like, non, no, I'm coming now. Yeah, No, you're not.

1495
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 7: No, you're not.

1496
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 4: What are we doing? I'm sorry, I don't I saw it.

1497
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Speaker 5: Jay Billis had a great tweet he said, look, there

1498
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,799
Speaker 5: has to be a penalty at some point. Can't transfer

1499
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 5: three and four times? I agree after the first like

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Speaker 5: you get one, one do over, you get one. After

1501
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 5: that you got to sit, whether it's half a season

1502
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:10,759
Speaker 5: or a full season.

1503
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Speaker 3: The only thing that's surprising him at that from billis

1504
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 3: is he usually wants the exact same rules for players

1505
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 3: as coaches.

1506
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Speaker 5: Well, he brought it up. He's been pretty strong about

1507
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 5: this whole The Willard guy, yeah, from Maryland, who clearly

1508
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 5: was going somewhere else while his team was in the tournament.

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Speaker 3: I would say that, as I've said this forever, it's

1510
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 3: one of my soapbox I live and die on. They

1511
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 3: just need to treat them like what they are, which

1512
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 3: is professional athletes, and just give them contracts. So if

1513
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 3: you sign a contract, if you're Cooper Flag and you

1514
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 3: sign for Duke for one year, four and a half

1515
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 3: million or whatever the heck he's getting, and it's probably

1516
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,839
Speaker 3: somewhere in there, and he deserves every penny of it. Okay,

1517
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 3: it's one year and then next year he's gonna go

1518
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 3: pro and that's it. But if you're somebody else and

1519
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 3: you sign the let's say you sign a two year

1520
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 3: deal to play point guard at Alabama. If your mark

1521
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 3: sears you play point part guard at Alabama for three years,

1522
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 3: then you are honored by you are owed that you

1523
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 3: have to honor that commitment and that contract. If you

1524
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 3: want to get bought out, just like a coach, then

1525
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 3: your new school has to pay off that what you're owed.

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01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 3: Coaches have buyouts, players should have buyouts. Yeah, just treat

1527
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 3: them all the same and call it professional sports and

1528
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 3: then you're done trying to the problem is anytime that

1529
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 3: and this is the one thing that makes me surprise

1530
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 3: about Billises, anytime you try to legislate, well, you get

1531
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 3: one transfer, you get this.

1532
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 4: If you're a student, you can.

1533
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 3: Transfer as much as you want. You go to six

1534
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 3: colleges in four years, transfer every semester if you want.

1535
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 4: It's not good business, but you could.

1536
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,679
Speaker 3: So that's where they get into trouble when they try

1537
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,600
Speaker 3: to limit what a student athlete can do versus what

1538
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 3: a student can do or what a coach can do.

1539
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 3: And if they just call them pros, then that's it.

1540
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 7: It solves it.

1541
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

1542
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 7: It's nuts.

1543
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like the nit will be the

1544
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 5: new mid major tournament.

1545
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 3: It already it's already turning into that because there's that

1546
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 3: college basketball crown thing that the other power forwards are

1547
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 3: playing in.

1548
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 4: It's nonsense. By the way, I couldn't tell you one

1549
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 4: team or one score or anything that's happened in that.

1550
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 4: It hasn't started yet. It starts this weekend.

1551
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 3: See, and it has been going on. It's it's nothing.

1552
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 3: You're gonna get a monster final. Like the numbers for

1553
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 3: this have been great because guess what Goliath. People like Goliath.

1554
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 4: It's all four best teams.

1555
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 3: It's Duke, Houston and Auburn and Florida. They're all really

1556
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 3: good teams. Duke is crazy good. Yeah, Duke's gonna win

1557
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 3: crazy good.

1558
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 5: Five minutes into that Arizona game, I was like, this

1559
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 5: is gonna be I hadn't seen Arizona play and I

1560
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 5: forgot that what's his face from North Carolina Trails? Yeah,

1561
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 5: Oh I hate me? Oh my god, I didn't. I

1562
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 5: didn't want to see him. And five minutes in, I'm like,

1563
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 5: they could lose this game tonight. No, and then like

1564
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 5: and then Alabama, I'm like, well, this is this is

1565
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 5: a tough one, and they went with twenty and I'm like,

1566
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 5: all right, I don't maybe maybe they're way better than

1567
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 5: I think.

1568
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 4: They're better than.

1569
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 3: Their length is crazy, their shot making is crazy, their

1570
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 3: depth is crazy, and play is so ridiculous.

1571
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 5: I think I think most of their I mean most

1572
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 5: of their starting five's freshmen, at least three or four freshmen.

1573
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 5: But the fact that they got at least Procter to

1574
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 5: stick around for three years, yeah, that has kind of

1575
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 5: steadied the ship as well.

1576
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 3: Cooper Flag is the modern version of what happens with

1577
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 3: what I see in youth sports, which is positionless basketball. Yep,

1578
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 3: he's six or nine, but he's primary ball handler for them.

1579
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 4: Yep, you know what I mean.

1580
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 3: He is, so no, it's been fun and then the

1581
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 3: number has been good, so very cool to see. All Right,

1582
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 3: we will head to South Florida. Our good buddy Andrews.

1583
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 3: Silliano going to join us from the league meetings coming

1584
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 3: up nextualist to Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally Bet,

1585
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Speaker 3: official sportsman a partner or Cleveland Browns on eight fifty ESPN.

1586
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 2: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally Bet, an official

1587
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 2: sports betting partner of your clevelandun on eight fifty ESP

1588
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 2: and Cleveland.

1589
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 3: Oh, maybe let's head to south. He's in South Florida,

1590
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 3: is he not?

1591
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 7: Is he not?

1592
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 4: He's in South Florida. Of course.

1593
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 3: Andrew Siciliano in the off season only lives in five

1594
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 3: star locations with lots of sun, and.

1595
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 4: He does It's all he does.

1596
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 3: Twisted Ty Hotline presented by Twist Herdiced, official sponsor to

1597
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted, Cleveland. He is a great

1598
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 3: Andrew Siciliano. He joins us from down the annual league

1599
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 3: meetings in Florida. I was in your neck of the

1600
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 3: woods last week, south of yeah, south of you we were.

1601
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 3: We were Orange County, Dana Point. And then we were

1602
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 3: in Palm Springs, Palm Desert. Well, I you know it

1603
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 3: was we were at Nate we I I tried to

1604
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 3: all the tourist CLA stuff so like Nate and Owl's

1605
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 3: and Staples and all that stuff with the kids, and

1606
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 3: then tried to bust down here's something that was a

1607
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 3: unique experience and maybe this is an experience you know

1608
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 3: or not I was using.

1609
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 4: We didn't.

1610
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 3: I'm smart enough, I've been there enough. I stayed away

1611
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 3: a rush hour. I did all of that trying to

1612
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 3: get south to Orange County. So I was smart in

1613
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 3: that regard.

1614
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 7: I was using.

1615
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 3: Ways as a means to guide me through Los Angeles. Okay,

1616
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 3: As we went from Airport to Staples to Beverly Hills

1617
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 3: and then inevitably down to southern Orange County.

1618
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 11: A lot of side streets and bad left turns that

1619
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 11: the phone probably made you try to take right, dude.

1620
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 3: On at least a half dozen times the plate.

1621
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 4: The phone had me.

1622
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 3: Exit the freeway to get back on the freeway to

1623
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:52,919
Speaker 3: jump one hundred cars in traffic.

1624
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 7: I ended up.

1625
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, boys, this is where they filmed the

1626
01:14:56,600 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 3: gun shootout in heat yep. An industrial somewhere yep. And

1627
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 3: then at one point we were like near usc and

1628
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 3: I'm like, and this is boys.

1629
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 4: In the hood, this is where this was.

1630
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 3: You haven't seen that yet, but this this isn't where

1631
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 3: I thought we were gonna get to go.

1632
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 4: So it was an experience just living.

1633
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 3: And by the way, Andrew, there was probably everywhere I

1634
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 3: went there was like twenty cars doing the same thing

1635
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 3: I was.

1636
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:20,679
Speaker 4: It was insane.

1637
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 11: Yes, well, it's always a game, right because you say

1638
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 11: I'm not going to get off the highway and do that. No, No,

1639
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 11: I can beat this. That's insane. I'm not going to

1640
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 11: do that. And then you're like, well, maybe I should

1641
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 11: have done that, But I also you guys, multiple people

1642
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:35,839
Speaker 11: in the car. You could have been in the carpool lane.

1643
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 7: I was.

1644
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 4: Didn't have much difference when you were on the freeways.

1645
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 7: Dude.

1646
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 3: I left Beverly Hills at two o'clock trying to go

1647
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 3: to Dana Point, and I thought.

1648
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 5: All right, good luck, dude.

1649
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 4: It was two o'clock on a Thursday. No way, I

1650
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 4: can't go anywhere gridlock.

1651
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 11: You can't. Well, Thursday's worse than Friday. Why I did

1652
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,919
Speaker 11: didn't make any sense in LA. Thursday's worse than Friday.

1653
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 11: I'm already had a dilemma right now. So I'm in Florida, obviously,

1654
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 11: And by the way, like everyone you know sitting on

1655
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 11: the four eighty bridge right now listening to LA traffic reports,

1656
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 11: I'm glad you love it, But I uh, I'm flying

1657
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 11: back tomorrow and I'm debating where I had to go

1658
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 11: down and see the guards in San Diego. And I'm

1659
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 11: already debating, like, if I land at noon tomorrow, is

1660
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 11: it even worth trying to go to a six o'clock game,

1661
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 11: one hundred and fifteen miles away. Is it even worth it?

1662
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 4: I don't know if you'll get there.

1663
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 7: It didn't.

1664
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 3: So when we drove to the desert, we went like

1665
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 3: south and then through Temecula and over the top in.

1666
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 5: The Pall Springs.

1667
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, to Mecula, and the traffic really didn't ease. I

1668
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 3: want to say, until like maybe is it ocean side.

1669
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:45,879
Speaker 4: Or selement to Diego?

1670
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, something way down there, like just north of Carlsbad

1671
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 3: was before the traffic you could finally move.

1672
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was nuts. It was absolutely nuts.

1673
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 11: So I got the electric vehicle so I can go

1674
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 11: in the car pool lane. But it doesn't always you know,

1675
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 11: if you want to cut down out of the seventy

1676
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 11: three and pay the toll through Newport is also that.

1677
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 11: And again now we're getting this is an SNL bit

1678
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 11: we're doing right now.

1679
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,440
Speaker 4: The California is the Californias.

1680
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 3: That's it, right, Hey, what did you learn?

1681
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 4: What did you learn today? Buddy?

1682
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 11: What I learned? What did I learn? They're not going

1683
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 11: to force a quarterback at two? But I think we

1684
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 11: all knew that. I just think people have to to

1685
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 11: wrap their head around that. You can't make a quarterback

1686
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 11: better than you've scouted him by taking him too. That's

1687
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 11: he doesn't magically become better at football because you take

1688
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 11: a player at two. You have to take a player

1689
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 11: at two that you think is worthy. Look at you know,

1690
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 11: Miles obviously in twenty seventeen, Baker, you know, don't want

1691
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 11: to revisit that, but went to the playoffs, won a

1692
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,839
Speaker 11: playoff game. Obviously, they were both number one overall picks.

1693
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 11: Picking this high. Denzel at four, like you should hit

1694
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 11: a home run, and they need to hit a home

1695
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 11: run at too. And if it's not a quarterback, it's

1696
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 11: not a quarterback. Ab was pretty adamant yesterday. That looks

1697
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 11: not adamant. Dont I guess he? He said? Trading up

1698
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 11: for one doesn't seem likely. I would also caution it's

1699
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 11: only a month out. I don't get people's hopes up.

1700
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 11: A lot can change when you're on the clock. And

1701
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 11: you know, if I'm selling a commodity, and the Tennessee

1702
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 11: Titans could potentially be selling a commodity, the price I'm

1703
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 11: asking right now is probably a lot higher than the

1704
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 11: price on when I'm on the clock. If I realize

1705
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 11: no one's going to pay it. Yep, you know what

1706
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 11: I'm saying, of course, right, So like if you know

1707
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 11: everyone they want a godfather deal, like they want two ones.

1708
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 11: There's no anner. You're paying two ones to go one pick?

1709
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 11: No no, no, no no, But you know what is

1710
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 11: that price when you're on the clock. I don't know.

1711
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 11: We'll find out.

1712
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 4: Well, And that's exactly it. As if their mindset was

1713
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 4: to not draft him all along at that moment, getting

1714
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 4: anything and still, for example, trading with us would allow

1715
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 4: them to still get who they want. Getting anything is

1716
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 4: better than getting nothing for that, so they may dis draft.

1717
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,600
Speaker 11: A smoke screen. They may really like it.

1718
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 4: Seems it seems to me that there are five buckets

1719
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 4: for the Browns with the pick number two. One, as

1720
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 4: you just talked about, would be trading to one for

1721
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 4: a cam woard. Number two would be staying there and

1722
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,839
Speaker 4: taking Shador Sanders. Now we're saying we're not forcing a quarterback.

1723
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 4: It makes me feel like that be as a as

1724
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 4: a less likely scenario. Now we did hear, you know,

1725
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 4: Brian Cally and say that Shadeur was on the list

1726
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 4: of the four players they're considering it number one. But

1727
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 4: it feels like that's less likely. So then bucket three

1728
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 4: would be stay there, you take Abdull Carter, Bucket four

1729
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 4: be stay there and you take Travis Hunter, and then

1730
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 4: bucket five would be you trade down. Yeah, what's kind

1731
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 4: of do you have a do you have a do

1732
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 4: you have a sense of And let's say it feels

1733
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 4: to me like right now, bucket one, which is the

1734
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 4: cam Ward buck it is kind of maybe the ideal scenario,

1735
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 4: but feels tougher to attain. Number two seems like a

1736
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 4: little bit less likely than maybe it did a few

1737
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 4: months ago. So when you're looking at that, just asking

1738
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 4: your opinion, which of the Abdul Carter, Travis Hunter? Trade down?

1739
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 11: What?

1740
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 4: What do you like the best?

1741
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 11: I don't want to trade down far, you know. And

1742
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 11: I also remember if you trade down, somebody's got to

1743
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 11: have to tray. Some's gonna need some up. So like,

1744
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 11: for example, the Giants, and this is part of the

1745
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 11: reason that the Browns are you know, everyone's saying no

1746
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 11: one knows what they're doing. Actually, bough, you asked me,

1747
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 11: what have I learned? I've had so many people come

1748
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 11: up to me and go like, no one knows what

1749
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 11: your team is doing. What are they doing me? You know,

1750
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 11: I can't tell you. I could, I could talk out

1751
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 11: scenarios with you, but I don't know. But someone's gonna

1752
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 11: have to want to come up. And the more and

1753
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 11: more they keep it quiet, obviously that is to their

1754
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 11: benefit come draft day. But if the Giants for some

1755
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 11: reason think they want you door same thing, like Brown's

1756
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 11: going up to one to get Cam, then you could

1757
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 11: do the same thing with the Giants to make sure

1758
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 11: that they get their guy if it is Shador or

1759
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 11: if it is whomever, and they could go down to three.

1760
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 11: But I, like, I don't know that someone's coming up

1761
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 11: from six, you know, the Raiders coming up from six,

1762
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 11: or the Jets from seven, if one of them badly

1763
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,719
Speaker 11: wanted QB two, if it's Shador, do you go down

1764
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 11: to six or seven? Is that still a premium position

1765
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 11: for you? Do you like that guy at six or

1766
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 11: seven as much as you like that guy at two.

1767
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:33,839
Speaker 11: I don't know that you would.

1768
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 4: Fair. The one thing that I'm and I've seen some

1769
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 4: mocks that have said this recently, and you, as you

1770
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 4: pointed out very suitely and as always a voice of reason,

1771
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 4: was like, they have to make content. But to me,

1772
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 4: a bad scenario would be to take a player at

1773
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 4: two and then give up. There was a mock that

1774
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 4: had the Browns trading picks thirty three, sixty seven and

1775
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 4: one oho four to come back into the first round

1776
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 4: to take a quarterback. And like to me, if you're

1777
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,719
Speaker 4: gonna give up three picks that are good for a player,

1778
01:21:57,760 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 4: then just take him at two.

1779
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 11: It depends. It depends who that player is, you know.

1780
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 11: And remember part of the reason you trade back up

1781
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 11: into the first round to get that quarterback, say, you

1782
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 11: make sure you get it, but you get the fifth year.

1783
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 11: And that's what the Ravens did in eighteen with Lamar.

1784
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 11: They got the fifth year, and obviously that fifth year

1785
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 11: helped them immensely. You also have to consider who might

1786
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 11: be getting that player. Like, if we're talking quarterback here,

1787
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:21,719
Speaker 11: do you have to get in front of the Steelers

1788
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 11: of twenty one? I mean right now, the Steelers Mike Tomlin,

1789
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 11: you know, bless him with some of the way he's

1790
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 11: he's a wardsmanth I mean he said today, you know,

1791
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 11: we don't know, and we're going to be patient, and

1792
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 11: it went well with Aaron, but we don't know. Like, well,

1793
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 11: if the Steelers don't get Aaron then like what are

1794
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 11: they doing? Obviously the same question for the Browns, but

1795
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 11: if they don't get Aaron Rodger, like, what what are

1796
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 11: they doing? And at that point do you need to

1797
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 11: jump ahead at them to get potentially at that point

1798
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 11: QB three.

1799
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's kind of the thing. And the I

1800
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 3: guess you think about how many years you've been around

1801
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 3: this league, my friend, you work for the league for

1802
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 3: a long time. How do you your BS meter? What

1803
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 3: do you believe with all of this? Like do you

1804
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 3: you hear Brian Callahan talking Mike Tomlan really not know anything?

1805
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,600
Speaker 3: Like do we really believe that really Brian Callahan and

1806
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 3: the Titans still are two weeks away from making a decision,

1807
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 3: Like how do you kind of get through the nonsense

1808
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 3: and find the fact?

1809
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 11: I'll say this when it comes to the Steelers just

1810
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 11: talking to to someone that they're building today that they

1811
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 11: don't know. And I think there are different levels of

1812
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:31,799
Speaker 11: patients in the building. I think that's fair to say.

1813
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 11: I think there are probably some that just can we

1814
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 11: figure this out, like get get it over with and

1815
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 11: then I think, you know, I don't think you also

1816
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 11: have to have some patience here because you realize it

1817
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 11: really is our only option right now. So let's be

1818
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 11: patients and let's not push too hard. You know, I

1819
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 11: also think I'm not gonna rip Aaron here, but like

1820
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 11: there needs to be like a professional courtesy here on

1821
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 11: his side of it, just to say, like, I mean,

1822
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 11: the Steelers are owed a decision one way or the other.

1823
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you don't go, That's what I was saying,

1824
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 3: is that's what I was saying a second ago, Bud, Like,

1825
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 3: so he's throwing past this to Dk Metcalf at U

1826
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 3: c l A, Like that's not an accident.

1827
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 11: At the same no, it probably isn't. At the same time,

1828
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 11: DK's got a place in LA in the off season

1829
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 11: and people work out all the time, you know, I mean.

1830
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,480
Speaker 4: Do you think it gets out?

1831
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 11: You feel it has the best pickup basketball games of

1832
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 11: all time in the off season for the NBA, right,

1833
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 11: But yeah, it'll get out. And he knew he was

1834
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 11: going to get out.

1835
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what my point is.

1836
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 3: Like, if he wanted to go, I tell you what,

1837
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 3: he can go on the road between Temecula and Palm

1838
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 3: Springs and he can throw to Dk Metcalf all day

1839
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 3: long and no one's going to see him. So that's that's.

1840
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 4: An easy one.

1841
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 3: Like you got people are gonna see absolutely the carpet.

1842
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 3: People are gonna see it.

1843
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 11: Man, you ask about like getting information in BS meter like,

1844
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:54,680
Speaker 11: so there's two sides of it. There's also like I

1845
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:56,600
Speaker 11: was talking to Mike Portganzi today, the new GM of

1846
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 11: the Titans, and you know he knows I'm you know,

1847
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 11: working with the around now and the amount of information

1848
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 11: I was getting from him was next to zero. But

1849
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 11: his lovely wife Jill is amazing. So you know, three

1850
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:11,680
Speaker 11: of us had a chat.

1851
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 4: No, it's a lot of silly season, that's for sure.

1852
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:17,640
Speaker 4: And I think there's a lot of you know, all

1853
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 4: of a sudden, you're hearing so much the Browns, I

1854
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 4: will say under Andrew Barr kems Fanski, one thing we

1855
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:24,640
Speaker 4: know is that it's not information has not gotten out

1856
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 4: when they were doing something or do and they've done

1857
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 4: a lot of big things with no information whatsoever, just

1858
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 4: done shocking. So there's all this talk linking you know,

1859
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 4: us to ab Dull Carter. To me, that sounds like

1860
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 4: they're putting that out there to the Titans, saying if

1861
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 4: you go to three, if you trade with three, you're

1862
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 4: not going to get at Duill Carter, so trade with us.

1863
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 4: That's the way that I read that. I don't know

1864
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 4: if that's true or not, but I think there's a

1865
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 4: lot of that going on right now.

1866
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 11: He's also really good like most if you if you

1867
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 11: ask the actual evaluators who's the best player in the draft,

1868
01:25:56,320 --> 01:26:00,719
Speaker 11: there's a good percentage that are going to say, Abdul Carter.

1869
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 11: You're just taking the best player. It's it's Abdul Carter.

1870
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 11: So Kevin spoke about that today and obviously they came

1871
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 11: from rival high schools, and that quote, you know, went around.

1872
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 11: You know, Kevin said, this is going to be a problem,

1873
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 11: and he said no. They were joking about you know,

1874
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 11: uh Dellas sal No with sal I'm sorry and St.

1875
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 11: Jose in Philadelphia. But Kevin also spoke a lot today

1876
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 11: about Travis Hunter, about planning a wide receiver and working

1877
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 11: them in a defense and how they would do that

1878
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 11: and that'd have to come up with a plant. Obviously

1879
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 11: he would ask that question. But you know, he he

1880
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:32,679
Speaker 11: spoke as much today about Travis Hunter as he did

1881
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 11: about Abdull Carter.

1882
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 4: Do you you were there when you were reading him,

1883
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 4: because you read some of the quotes, and I'm gonna

1884
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 4: ask you two things. First, was to go sick with

1885
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 4: the fancy. It felt like he was more than necessarily

1886
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 4: he needed to be. But it felt very genuine in

1887
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 4: his praise of Kenny Pickett. What did you what did

1888
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 4: you take away from that?

1889
01:26:55,840 --> 01:27:00,759
Speaker 11: I think so as well. I think, look, Kenny Pickett,

1890
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 11: and I know, win loss record, it only means so much.

1891
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 11: Kenny Pickett was fifteen and ten as a starter. If

1892
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 11: you go back and look look at what he did

1893
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 11: as a rookie, I mean he he marched him down

1894
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 11: the field and pulled out some games in the fourth

1895
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 11: quarter of the final drive a lot.

1896
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:22,520
Speaker 4: So he's gotten any drive, Yep, exactly.

1897
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 11: I'm not telling you that. If it's the Browns and

1898
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 11: the Steelers again week number one, you know a LA

1899
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 11: eighty nine Bud Carson, David Grayson that you know, a

1900
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 11: we're going to win fifty one to nothing would be

1901
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 11: it's going to be Kenny Pickett, Mason Rudolph. I don't

1902
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 11: think that would be the case, but he's the only

1903
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 11: quarterback on the roster right now. He certainly wasn't going

1904
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 11: to trash the kid. He certainly praised him.

1905
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, he most certainly did. And then on the other side,

1906
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 4: talking quarterback, you know, Jimmy Hans said, we're not going

1907
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 4: to force it a too. We've kind of heard a

1908
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:53,719
Speaker 4: lot of those. But I thought, you know, talking about

1909
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 4: the Deshaun Watson trade, saying it was a swing and

1910
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 4: a miss, that it was an organizational decision. Everybody on

1911
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 4: the organization's in there, but the bucks stops with him,

1912
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 4: and so they're gonna blame anybody blame you know, him

1913
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 4: and d I thought, was you don't get that kind

1914
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 4: of honesty often, and I thought it was good and

1915
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 4: maybe hopefully it's cathartic and healing and starts the next chapter.

1916
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 11: Yeah, I was. I was there for that, and I

1917
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 11: agree with you, Nathan, it was. It was cathartic. It

1918
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 11: was honest. It's an answer that you know, listen, if

1919
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 11: the answer was anything other than that, you're you're gonna

1920
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 11: have people, you know, burning up the phones, calling in

1921
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 11: from before eighty bridge saying how dare you try to

1922
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 11: sugarcoat it? It is what it is. Now, I do

1923
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 11: want to add some context. And Mary Kay, i know,

1924
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 11: added this on one of her tweets. You know, also said.

1925
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 11: Part of the reason is swinging the miss is because

1926
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 11: he's had three major injuries. Yep, right, the shoulders stare

1927
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 11: the achilles, the achilles, and when you see the teams

1928
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 11: he had like a teams, he has already written it

1929
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 11: up right, swinging a mess like it was. It's been

1930
01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 11: a swinging a mess, which is refreshing honesty, obviously, and

1931
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 11: it's been that way because he has not been healthy.

1932
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 11: So you need the full context here, and I hope Baltimore.

1933
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

1934
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 4: The after Baltimore game is the biggest what if in

1935
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 4: this whole thing. Yea, when he has a second half,

1936
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:19,719
Speaker 4: he had the mojo back. As I told the story

1937
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:21,719
Speaker 4: many times, I'm sitting the everybody's coming through that small

1938
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 4: walkway in Baltimore to the buses. Everybody believed, he believed

1939
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:27,639
Speaker 4: he was back, and we never got to see that.

1940
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 4: That is the biggest what if in that entire trade.

1941
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 11: It is, dude, I will never forget this. Like I

1942
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:35,599
Speaker 11: woke up and again I'm three hours behind you, guys.

1943
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 11: I wake up and I'm trying to wipe the sleep

1944
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 11: out of my eyes. That morning was Wednesday morning. Whatever

1945
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 11: you see the news or Tuesday morning, what it was

1946
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 11: and you see the news and like there are two

1947
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 11: things on my phone, number one of the news and

1948
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 11: number two a text from you, like like we were

1949
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 11: both just like gut it, like gut it. Like that

1950
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:56,719
Speaker 11: performance in Baltimore was you know, the fourteen for fourteen

1951
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Speaker 11: and second I like we'll always have that. Yeah, right,

1952
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Speaker 11: but the optimism was as high as it could be.

1953
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Speaker 11: Great newsomit yet six and everything worked?

1954
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Speaker 7: Yep?

1955
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Speaker 4: Did Hi? Buddy, good checking in with you. Thanks for

1956
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Speaker 4: your time. Palin Joyce, South Florida.

1957
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Speaker 11: Yeah, hey, guys, Traffic and weather on the ones. We'll

1958
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Speaker 11: do it again sooner.

1959
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1960
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1961
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1962
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1963
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1964
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1965
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Speaker 4: All Right, kids, good to be back. We'll do it

1966
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Speaker 4: again tomorrow. We have so much.

1967
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Speaker 3: We didn't even so much because there was actual like

1968
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Speaker 3: salted gets.

1969
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Speaker 4: It's actually real stuff to get to next levels next.

1970
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Speaker 3: Thanks for listening Body Cleave, the Browns Daily, eight fifty

1971
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1972
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Speaker 2: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of

1973
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