1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Buzzsnight, the host of the Taking a Walk podcast, and 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: welcome to another edition of This Week in Music History. 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: It's for the week of June the second, and we 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: go over to the music history desk to the Maestro 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: of Mayhem, the master of music history. 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: Hello, Harry Jacobs. 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 3: It was a pleasure to be here for another week, 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 3: and a fairly interesting week, a busy week in terms 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 3: of music history. So I'm glad to be here. But 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: you know, it's never a week without some Beatles news. 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: Bring it on. We're gonna start on June second. 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 3: We talked about this last week that Sergeant Pepper's was 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: rushed by EMI for release in the UK. Well, the 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: following week it was officially released, you know, in the US, 15 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: and that was, you know, the beginning of this monster album. 16 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: Unbelievable artwork, unbelievable music. Who and I talked by the way, 17 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 3: about the White Album last week, which came out after 18 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 3: Sergeant Peppers, and think about the you know, you had 19 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 3: an observation the cover work on Sergeant Peppers was amazing. 20 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 3: You you said to me, it caught me off guard. Well, 21 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: think about the White album and how you know how 22 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: amazing that cover was and I had to think about. 23 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: It for a minute. I thought it was there something in. 24 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: Boston that that I didn't see. 25 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: I feel like they poured so much work creatively into 26 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: the artwork of Sergeant Pepper that then the White Album. 27 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: They were like, Okay, we're the Beatles, we can do 28 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: exactly what we want, and we're gonna call it the 29 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: White Album. 30 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: Let's get it out there, brilliant. If you're the Beatles, 31 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: you can get away with it. 32 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: We don't care. We did enough on Sergeant Peppers. Here's 33 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: the new album. It's the White Album. Deal with it, 34 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: take it or leave it. June second, two thousand and two, 35 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: Eminem reached number one with The Eminem Show in the 36 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: US and the UK, and this kind of began his 37 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: dominance in hip hop. 38 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: Do you like Eminem? I definitely some of his music, 39 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: for sure. 40 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: I will tell you I was once in a room 41 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: with him. 42 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: Oh how long ago was that? Oh this was back 43 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: in the early. 44 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: Was around It was mid two thousands when I used 45 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: to have to you remember, go to year old Stomping Grounds, Detroit, 46 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: Michigan for a lot of work business work with our 47 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: radio stations. I stayed at my favorite spot there the 48 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: Townsend Hotel in Birmingham, Michigan. And I remember the workers 49 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: there were not supposed to do this, but one of 50 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: the workers came over to me and went, just take 51 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: a look over there in the corner, Look who's over there? 52 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: And there was mister M and M yeah with us, 53 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: with a couple of other people, kind of shrouded in mystery. 54 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was back in his drug days too, right, probably. Yeah. 55 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: June third, nineteen sixty seven, Aretha Franklin's Respect, which was 56 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 3: originally covered or not covered, but it was originally Otis 57 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 3: Redding song. It was her cover of Otis's song from 58 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 3: nineteen sixty five, and it was a. 59 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: Number one song here in the US. 60 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: An anthem, a rally cry for women. 61 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: Just a great song. You know. 62 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: I defy you to not turn it up when it 63 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: comes on the radio, right. 64 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah? I mean? 65 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: And Areta my God with a voice Got Crazy. 66 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 3: Nineteen sixty seven, The Doors released a radio friendly version 67 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: of Light My Fire. Remember the original was over six 68 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: minutes long, and they cut it down at two minutes 69 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 3: and fifty two seconds so that the radio station's top 70 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: forty radio. 71 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: There wasn't really any album rock at that point. In time. 72 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: It was you know, AM radio for the most part, 73 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: that's where. 74 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: People and you know, we never would play the edited versions, 75 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: makes makes sense, you played the long We always played 76 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: whatever it was, whatever artists had had created the shorter, 77 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: you know, top forty version right on our radio stations. 78 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 2: We never played those. We played the long one. 79 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: Did we play the the unedited version? I'm sure we 80 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 3: did the unedited version of Jet Airliner by Steve Miller 81 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 3: with shit in it. 82 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, here's what we did. 83 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: And then and then eventually, you know, as we know 84 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: how love them personally, but when the lawyers get a 85 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: hold of anything, that's pretty much like, no, you can't 86 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: do why because you can't. 87 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: So eventually that changed, right. You know, there was one 88 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: you probably never thought about this, maybe you did. 89 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: There's one of those things with a horrible word in 90 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: it that rock radio played over and over again, the 91 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: live version of Leonard Skynyrd's Give Me Three Steps. It's 92 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: about a guy that gets caught with not his girlfriend 93 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 3: and there's gonna be a fight Ronnie van Zant and 94 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 3: whoever this guy is, and Ronnie van Zant in the 95 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: live version says, man, I ain't gonna fight him over 96 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: his blank can't say the word. I wouldn't utter the 97 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 3: word here. It's a word that women hate. If you 98 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: go back and listen to Gimme Three Steps. How did 99 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 3: that song, the live version of that song, ever get played? 100 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: Someone was probably not? I mean, you're aware of that, right, 101 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 2: did you know? I'm really not? Honestly, Go listen to the. 102 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: Live version of it. Okay, the live version, and you 103 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: hear Vans and said say that line. 104 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 2: All right. 105 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: I don't know what caused me to think about that, 106 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: but I was listening to it one day. I thought, 107 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 3: did he just say what I thought? He said? 108 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: Wow? 109 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: Every rock station in America played that one more for 110 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 3: the road from that album. 111 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: Wow. I didn't realize that. All right, I'm going to 112 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: check it out. 113 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 3: Anyway, the radio edit. I'm surprised that never got edited down. 114 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: In twenty nineteen, on June third, Forbes declared Jay Z 115 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 3: the first rapper to become a billionaire with three hundred 116 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 3: and ten million from. 117 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 2: His steak in that champagne that he had. I didn't, 118 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't realize he had a steak in champagne. 119 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 3: Sorry, a lot of different businesses. I guess, so that's 120 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 3: one of them. 121 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 2: This one's interesting. 122 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty three, Lauren Hill stage a surprise Fuji's 123 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: reunion with why Cliff John in Philadelphia. You and I 124 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 3: have a connection to Lauren Hill before she was really 125 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: Lauren Hill. 126 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: I mean she was Lauren Hill. But you think about 127 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: this for a second. 128 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: You remember Lauren Hill from from Boston. No, okay, You 129 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: and I in nineteen ninety five went to an event. 130 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: Record companies would routinely create showcases, right, so they like 131 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: in this case, Columbia Records. I think Rocky Del Balzo 132 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 3: or somebody arranged a showcase of multiple artists at Mama 133 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: Kin the Aerosmith Club. 134 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: You and I. 135 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: Went to that show and we heard Lauren Hill and 136 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: the Fugis play Killing Me Softly for the first time, 137 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: and we looked at each other as that I remember 138 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 3: this like it was yesterday. We heard Killing Me Softly 139 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: two years before I think it came out. 140 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: This is now coming back to me as you're telling 141 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: me this story. Somehow you've unlocked right the Swiss cheese 142 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: up here on the left side of my head. Yeah, 143 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: I do recall it, and I wonder if it was 144 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: Rocky or the person who I just recently interviewed. 145 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. 146 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: The episode probably will be close to be out when 147 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: by the time this comes out Paul Rappaport, so I'm 148 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: sure he would know about that as well. 149 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, think about it. 150 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: We were at Mama Can the Arrolsmith Club on what's 151 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 3: that street behind Fenway Park is at Lansdown Street. Yeah, 152 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: where the rumor is that the late great Patrick Murray 153 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: from the Charles Lacrderre Show got a speeding ticket going 154 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 3: seventy five miles an hour down that street. Long Live 155 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: the memory of Patrick Murray. Those of you from Boston 156 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: will get it. How ridiculous seventy five miles an hour 157 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: would be down Lansdown Street. 158 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 2: But that's where we heard me softly good one, Good One. 159 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: It's coming back to me, all right. 160 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: June fourth, this is the next three and this is 161 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: the last for the week. There's a Springsteen connection. We're 162 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 3: both Springsteen fans. But this is what popped up during 163 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 3: this week. Nineteen eighty four, June fourth was the release 164 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 3: of Born in the USA. That song was co opted 165 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 3: by Ronald Reagan. Was a big deal because people, you know, 166 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 3: pump their fists when they hear, you know, you go 167 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: even now you go see Bruce and he plays Born 168 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: in the USA and everyone's pumping their hands and holding 169 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: up their flags. 170 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: The song was about as anti American as it gets. Yeah, 171 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: totally misunderstood. 172 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: You know, people don't get it, so no I but 173 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 3: that changed the world for Bruce in nineteen eighty four, 174 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 3: that album, Now. 175 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: I remember, I remember all of that time with that 176 00:09:55,000 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: release most vividly due to my wonderful time that I 177 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: adored while working in New York at WNWFM, Because you 178 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: want to see a way for a radio station to 179 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: quote unquote own that album when it came out, that 180 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: was any w at its at its greatest at that moment. 181 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: And you know Bruce was a was a big fan 182 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: of the radio stations. 183 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I lived in the in the backyard. 184 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 3: So two years later, after the Born in the USA 185 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: tour was over, Bruce ended up connecting on that Amnesty 186 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: International tour and there are a whole bunch of people 187 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: that you know that were there for part of it, 188 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: YouTube and Sting and Tracy Chapman and Peter Gabriel. If 189 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 3: you remember that tour, Bruce recorded a little EP that 190 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: got played along, but I remember it really helped Tracy Chapman, 191 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: you know. 192 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: And then in two thousand, Bruce. 193 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 3: Released American Skin forty one shots and had a years 194 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 3: on the New York City concert the dvd a very 195 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: moving song, you know, about shooting of an unarmed young man. 196 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: The message from you know, the mother to the son, 197 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 3: you know, keep your hands where they can see him, 198 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: don't do anything, you know what I mean. 199 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 2: It's just it is. 200 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: There you go with this week and music for the 201 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 3: first week in June. 202 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: Well good and ending it in a Springsteen fury. I 203 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 2: like that as well. 204 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so well, Thank you Harry Jacobs for another look 205 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: at this week in music history. And it was quite 206 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: a week the week of June the second, and we 207 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: love talking about it. And thanks for listening to the 208 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk podcast. We are available wherever you get 209 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: your podcasts.