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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and SMITHA.

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Speaker 2: I want to stuff and I ever told you a

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Speaker 2: prediction of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: And Happy March is this? Wait? This is Women's Month,

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Speaker 1: Women's History Month?

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Speaker 2: Yeahtory month.

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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you for correcting me. We celebrate women and

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Speaker 1: all of those who are in the marginal ZS communities

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Speaker 1: all the time, so sometimes I don't even think about

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Speaker 1: it because obviously we're going to be talking about the

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Speaker 1: amazing people, specifically women and those who identify as women

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Speaker 1: all the time anytime. The only times, Yeah, like that's

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Speaker 1: all we talk about essentially, unless we're talking about bad men.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple other things, but generally I would agree.

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Speaker 2: But yes, one time we did forget it was Women's

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Speaker 2: History Month, which was really embarrassing. But I maintain it's

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Speaker 2: because we talk about it all.

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Speaker 1: The time of our show, and we should be talking

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Speaker 1: about it all the time, so you know, I do.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, yeah, yeah, something March is something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let you go. And this is our first active it's

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Speaker 1: around the world for this month, obviously, and we wanted

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Speaker 1: to celebrate the first and currently only African American woman

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Speaker 1: to win a Winter Games medal for the Paralympics Bonnie

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Speaker 1: Saint John. But before we do, I'm gonna go down

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Speaker 1: a really sad, annoying route because I am a pessimist,

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Speaker 1: and that is angry. That is angry because as I

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Speaker 1: was looking for Paralympic athletes, and we want to focus

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Speaker 1: doing and who they are, I'm like, you know, usually

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Speaker 1: we also want to look at the marginalized communities who

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Speaker 1: have really broken through the barriers. And I have to say,

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Speaker 1: I'm very disappointed, very disappointed, so content orning, I'm disappointed

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Speaker 1: and angry. I canna do with that as a thing.

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Speaker 1: We did wrap up the Olympics recently, and we want

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Speaker 1: was a lot that happened with the Olympics. Obviously, we've

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Speaker 1: hinted at a few things. I think we have an

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Speaker 1: upcoming episode and which we talk about in reference to

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Speaker 1: some of the things that have happened with the Olympics,

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Speaker 1: specifically when it comes to the women and the athletes

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Speaker 1: damn medals essentially for the United States. But hey, we'll

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Speaker 1: come back to that. But yes, today is March third,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. The opening ceremonies for the Paralympics is

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Speaker 1: March six, so we're a little bit ahead. But we

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Speaker 1: wanted to jump in and celebration pre celebration for those

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Speaker 1: who have made this big accomplishment to qualify within the Games.

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Speaker 1: And I was desperately, like I said, trying to find

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Speaker 1: a woman of color who'll be representing the US for

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Speaker 1: the Paralympics. And sadly there's only two women of color

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Speaker 1: I have missed a few others who be like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm also technically these things. But from like me trying

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Speaker 1: to research and I went through like bios and such.

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Speaker 1: There was a Korean American, a Mongolian American woman, there's

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Speaker 1: There's no plucked woman to be seen to be competing

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Speaker 1: very much so. Caucasian women is in their bio as

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Speaker 1: as we've already discussed and have made a lot of mistakes,

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Speaker 1: In general, we do not see many black athletes in

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Speaker 1: the marginalized community. It shouldn't be a surprise, but nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: Google AI did put this because I was researching asking

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Speaker 1: AI tried it did say due to the lack of funding,

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Speaker 1: recognizing that it does take a lot of money in training,

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Speaker 1: disabled athletes. Yeah, it shouldn't be a surprise. And I

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Speaker 1: No one cares to fund them. Sorry, it's kind of

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Speaker 1: how it went. I was like, well, you know you

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Speaker 1: on top of everything, Bonnie Saint John, who is probably

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Speaker 1: You're like, what now, I'm smiling just staring at her

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Speaker 1: her celebrations, in her wins, all the things. And Saint

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Speaker 1: John made history in nineteen eighty four by becoming the

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Speaker 1: first African American woman to win a Paralympic or Olympic

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that was very special. It was terrific.

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Speaker 1: that makes perfect sense to me, Like, I don't compare

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Speaker 1: and after that she went on to graduate from Harvard,

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Speaker 1: this is from her site, Bonnie Saint John dot com.

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Speaker 1: Bonnie graduated with honors from Harvard, one of Rhodes Scholarship,

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Speaker 1: and delegations to both the Winter Paralympic Games in Vancouver

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