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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Saturday, January third, and a

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Speaker 1: big breaking news update. The United States is now in

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Speaker 1: the oil business and is taking over another country. And

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Speaker 1: with that, welcome to this episode, this breaking Update episode

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Speaker 1: of Amy and TJ Robed. We were waiting to get

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Speaker 1: the update about the big breaking news, which is that

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Speaker 1: the United States went and snatched a president from his country.

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Speaker 1: It didn't feel like that was actually the biggest news

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Speaker 1: coming out of the update we just got from President

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Speaker 1: Trump in a press conference.

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Speaker 2: That's right. So we thought we were going to get

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Speaker 2: the details about how it went down, where President Maduro

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Speaker 2: and his wife are, what they're facing, YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 2: Instead we got the news that the United States is

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Speaker 2: now going to be running Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: That was the bombshell, folks. We were listening. Yes, the

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Speaker 1: details and we will get into some of them about

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Speaker 1: the operation and it was uncruel, incredible what the US

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Speaker 1: military pulled off. But the president and again he was

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Speaker 1: about at least forty five minutes late for this press

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Speaker 1: conference starting today, and they started to get some details

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Speaker 1: and things started coming out, and he went through a

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Speaker 1: couple of other speakers first. So we're just listening along

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Speaker 1: and taking notes, and all of a sudden he hit

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Speaker 1: us with it.

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Speaker 2: You and I looked at each other when he said,

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Speaker 2: we are going to run the country until such time

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Speaker 2: as we can do a safe, proper and judicious transition.

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Speaker 2: And you and I looked at each other and you said,

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Speaker 2: did he just what? Did he just say?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And then he repeated it again, and we both looked

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Speaker 2: at each other with our jaws dropped.

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Speaker 1: I still cannot believe, and we are still trying to

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Speaker 1: get a handle on exactly what this does mean. But

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Speaker 1: as you said, Robes, the United States, according to President Trump,

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Speaker 1: is in now and I don't know how legally, but

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Speaker 1: he's announcing that we are going to run the place.

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Speaker 1: The vice president Rodriguez has been sworn in. We're told

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Speaker 1: they've been in touch with her, and the way they

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Speaker 1: put it, Robes is that yes, she'll pretty much she

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Speaker 1: don't be a partner with us. She doesn't have a choice.

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Speaker 2: He did add that she doesn't have a choice. Yes,

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Speaker 2: he said that. Delsi. Rodriguez spoke to Marco Rubio, and

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Speaker 2: I guess they said it was a long conversation and

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Speaker 2: that she was willing to do whatever we need.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet after she saw that picture of Maduro

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Speaker 1: being flown out in sweatpants, Yes, I bet so. But

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Speaker 1: this I don't know. People are trying to make comparisons

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Speaker 1: and going back to Panama or Yega and that. People

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Speaker 1: trying to map this out and trying to figure this

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Speaker 1: out and what the justification. The president didn't necessarily get

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Speaker 1: into that, but we should mention he has said and

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Speaker 1: many have others, many others have this is not a

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Speaker 1: legitimate president and he is involved in narco terrorism. So

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Speaker 1: this is a bad guy who was indicted in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty in the US. Therefore we had that was a.

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Speaker 2: Justifications serving a warrant. Basically, yes, we were serving a warrant,

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Speaker 2: and we got our prisoners and we're bringing them now

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Speaker 2: to face justice. And yes, as we record this, it's

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Speaker 2: fascinating to think about the I guess now former president

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Speaker 2: being shipped up right here to where we are in

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Speaker 1: That's an incredible development overnight. First of all, and again

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Speaker 1: we woke up to that news. If you've been obviously

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Speaker 1: you've getten all these alerts. But yes, we found out

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Speaker 1: overnight the US went in full military. We heard a

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Speaker 1: lot of details about it. They've been rehearsing this for months,

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Speaker 1: even did some like some Oceans thirteen type stuff, and

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Speaker 1: they built a replica the Yes House.

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Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah, they said he had this safe room that

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Speaker 2: they were aware of, so they came in with even

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Speaker 2: blow torches. But they went and practiced this, as you said,

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Speaker 2: so they said they would, they were able to do it.

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Speaker 2: I think. Didn't President Trump say that even if he

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Speaker 2: had made it into the safe room, which he didn't,

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Speaker 1: He was very specific in the time. So, yeah, the

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Speaker 1: details of the operation and how many one hundred and

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Speaker 1: waiting for days for this, waiting on the weather to break.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, four days.

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Speaker 1: For some of these folks from over the military over

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Speaker 2: Wow, and probably could not tell their family why they

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Speaker 1: of that was fascinating, but several things jumped out, at

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Speaker 1: least in the order we got the details of the operation.

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Speaker 1: What's next for Marduro, that's a big deal. He's on

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Speaker 1: and I think more people and his family and his

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Speaker 1: they said he's coming to New York if he's going

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Speaker 2: Can you even they kept back getting those horrible conditions

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Speaker 2: or would it be something what else?

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Speaker 1: Would it be a federal prisoner? He's facing criminal charges,

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Speaker 1: is he not?

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Speaker 2: I mean that would be a story in and of itself.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So that's what's next for them there on their

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Speaker 1: the President did not assume you caught this ropes that

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Speaker 1: the possibility of troops on the ground is going to

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Speaker 2: Yes, he actually said a lot of people think we're

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Speaker 2: afraid of boots on the ground. We are not afraid

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Speaker 2: of boots on the ground. So he made that a

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Speaker 2: very specific point. And you know what was interesting speaking

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Speaker 2: of that, he even said when he started this, this

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Speaker 2: definitely caught my attention before he dropped his other bombshell,

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Speaker 2: that they were expecting to have to go in with

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Speaker 2: a second wave. So that first attack, when they were

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Speaker 2: they said that they were fully prepared to then have

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Speaker 2: But yes, he made it clear he won't shy away

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Speaker 1: You know, I knew, and I took that as was

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Speaker 1: a warning like, if anybody else in the country wants

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Speaker 2: Yes, that definitely prepared.

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Speaker 1: Because he may He made that it sounded like a

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Speaker 1: us right now. And then of course he gets to

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Speaker 1: in charge of this country? Essentially? I think he was saying,

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Speaker 1: it's President Marco Rubio. Didn't they send us a that

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Speaker 1: He kind of said, yeah, some of these guys behind me.

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Speaker 1: He didn't seem to be necessarily clear or maybe correct.

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Speaker 1: I haven't figured it out yet.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he said that they were figuring it out and

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Speaker 2: they would release those names, you know, soon. But someone

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Speaker 2: then followed up and said, are you saying Marco Rubio

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Speaker 2: and Peke Hegxeth. He's like, yeah, you know, like like

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Speaker 2: like I said, so, I don't know who else he

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Speaker 2: perhaps one or both might share responsibilities in I don't know,

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Speaker 2: are they going to be whispering in the ear of

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Speaker 1: I don't know, being a sent they you know what,

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Speaker 1: they gave every single indication that, yes, we have talked

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Speaker 1: turn on the television and look at those pictures again. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's this. This was some gangster ish if

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Speaker 1: because yes, we're gonna run the country. But the other

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Speaker 1: parts he got to robes had did everything to do

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Speaker 1: with oil. This seemed almost like a business press conference.

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Speaker 2: So this was the second jaw dropping moment where you

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Speaker 2: and I looked at each other and thought, did he

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Speaker 2: just say what I think? He just said that US

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Speaker 2: making money for the country. And he said, right now, Venezuela,

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Speaker 2: They can't produce what they could be producing. Venezuela they

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Speaker 2: So the amount of money that is underground. And to

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Speaker 2: to be bringing in US oil companies to rebuild and

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Speaker 2: boost your oil industry, hmmmm is.

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Speaker 1: What a lot of people started saying. So after this

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Speaker 1: Every single question that he opened it up to after

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Speaker 1: and had to do with oil for the most part.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a question there about Maduro, but these are the

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Speaker 1: on Amy and TJ. We happen to just as we

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Speaker 1: picture of Maduro in handcuffs. I see a bottle of

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think he is in handcuffs. He has a

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Speaker 2: bottle of water. But it is I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of people have pointed out a humbling photo. He's in sweatpants,

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Speaker 2: he looks a little disheveled, he has big sunglasses on

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Speaker 2: and like trying to balance a water bottle in his

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Speaker 2: handcuffed hands. It's not the strong presidential image he has portrayed. So, yes,

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Speaker 2: it was meant to embarrass.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's going down in history. A lot of

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Speaker 1: dictators have had that picture taken at some point. Oil

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Speaker 1: robes this has been look The USC used one oil

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Speaker 1: tanker a month or so ago, saying it was carrying

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Speaker 1: oil that was being used about in the whole narco

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Speaker 1: terrorism situation or terrorism, I should say, But now Robes

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Speaker 1: oil was front and center because there is a lot

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Speaker 1: going to bring in US oil companies to help with

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Speaker 1: the FORRA structure and to get that oil out. Now,

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Speaker 1: the oil money, at least my understanding is that he said,

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Speaker 1: is going to go back to the people of Venezuela

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Speaker 1: to help build up the country. Correct.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He said the partnership between the oil companies and

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Speaker 2: the country of Venezuela will make the people rich, independent

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Speaker 2: and safe. And then he said Venezuelan's living in the

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Speaker 2: US will be extremely happy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay. The question then came and he danced. I

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Speaker 1: got to go find the quote with Robes. He mentioned

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Speaker 1: that obviously these companies are not going to do this

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, the US oil company. The way I took it

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Speaker 1: The legal scholars will do what they're going to do.

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Speaker 1: We are in charge now Venezuela and all that oil,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And it's so interesting because other wars, Iraq perhaps

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Speaker 2: for purposes, economic purposes, and that was always denied. No,

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Speaker 2: And to the timeframe. We had some obviously very pointed

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Speaker 1: And should be noted in one other thing that jumped

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Speaker 2: He said about Maduro. He said he left around, and

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Speaker 1: That was among them and the president. I hope get

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Speaker 1: It was a hell of a night, of course in

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Speaker 1: just brilliance by the military as always to see their precision.

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Speaker 1: But what happens next we absolutely do not know, and

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Speaker 1: it doesn't seem a lot of the questions we have

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Speaker 1: But we want to hop on and give you all

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Speaker 1: that update. As always for my dear Amy Robock, I

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