1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, I'm Kaylie Shure and this is too much 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: to say asking questions. Now turn it out you all right, hello, 3 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: welcome back. UM. So, one of my most popular episodes 4 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: to this day of the podcast that is, like I 5 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: think it's like the most shared and definitely the one 6 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: I heard the most from you guys about is Hungry 7 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: as the New Skinny from the very beginning of the podcast, 8 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: And if you haven't listened to it, I recommend going 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: back and listening to that now before we dive in, 10 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: because it's like a little bit of a part to 11 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: slash an update, but it's the episode on body image, 12 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: and um it's one of my favorites as well, so 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: if you haven't heard it, go back and listen to it. 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 1: It's one of the beginning, very first episodes. But if 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: you have heard it, then let's dive in. So it's 16 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: so hard to keep up because body image is like 17 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: gets woven in with trends so often where it's like 18 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: this certain body types and style or like body positivity 19 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: is being used by large brands to get people to 20 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: buy their ship and it just becomes so commercial and 21 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: just like body positivity and body types shouldn't be have 22 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: any part in capitalism, but they do um and we're 23 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 1: being sold things every day everywhere we look, from stuff 24 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: we see on Instagram, stuff we see on TV, stuff 25 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: we see in magazines and even like, I mean, it's 26 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: hard going through Instagram and seeing people that you know 27 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: that you're jealous of and that you like compare yourself to. 28 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: And I've had to like, I want to get past 29 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: this point, but there are some people that I see 30 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: them and I see their posts and they might be 31 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: like really like heavy on the fitness stuff and talking 32 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: about calories and what they eat and blah blah blah, 33 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: and I've had to like mute them because it's not 34 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: good for me to look at. And it's nothing offensive 35 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: to that person because that person might have no disordered 36 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: eating thoughts. They're just passionate about fitness and it's not 37 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: their fault, but it's also something I can't see. So 38 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: for starters, never feel guilty about doing that. I feel 39 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: like one of the new trends that has caught on 40 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: that's really damaging is intermittent fasting, which I'd also like 41 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: to preface this with different things work for different people, 42 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: and some people really enjoy doing that and it's seeing 43 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: good results and feel healthier. But what's right for one 44 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: body is not right for all of them, and that's 45 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 1: something we need to remember. So if you ever did 46 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: the whole thirty and you didn't see any results, you 47 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: didn't feel any better, like you might haven't like you 48 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: might need nutrients. You might have a calcium deficiency, so 49 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: dairy is actually really good to eat for. You might 50 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: not be lactose until rant um all of those things. 51 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: So some people have really differing types of metabolism that 52 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: relates to their thyroid. Um My cat, for one, has 53 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: a um hyper active thyroid hypo. He has the one 54 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: where you can't gain weight no matter what. So this 55 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: freaking cat, he is just starting to get his little 56 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: belly back, which is really good. But he metabolizes things 57 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: so fast, and he'll eat all day every day. He'll 58 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: eat people food off the counter if he sees it, 59 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: and so I have to feed him all the time. 60 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: And I've started making him like real people food, so 61 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: he's eating. He has like a plate of chicken that 62 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: I cooked in a pan, Like that's how much I 63 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: love this cat. But people have things like that with 64 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: their thyroids too, so they can eat all day every day, 65 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: not gain weight, but still not feel well like it's 66 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: still a problem. That's not a good thing. Um. And 67 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: then some people have like an underactive thyroid, which means 68 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: that they could diet, they could work out, they could 69 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: do all these things, and their body just retains the weight. 70 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: And that's why. And I'm not a doctor. Also, I 71 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: feel like I should preface with that, but I do 72 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: know from my decades of experience as an anorexic about 73 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: what starvation mode is. And when your body goes into 74 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: starvation mode, it's basically like you haven't been feeding it enough, 75 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: and the primal parts of you are like, Okay, I 76 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: don't know. The next time I'm going to get food, 77 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to turn everything into fat to store it. 78 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: And I'm not going to let that go because I 79 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: need to have fat stored in order to stay alive, 80 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: because I'm starving and your body doesn't know that you're 81 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: doing it to yourself, like your your body has no idea. 82 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: Your body thinks that you're, you know, on the planes 83 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: in a jungle and have no access to food and 84 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: there's a famine, like that's as far as your body 85 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: is concerned. That's what's happening. And so it's like an 86 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 1: amazing thing that our bodies do that. But because we're 87 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: starving ourselves, it's like making everything go out of whack. 88 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: And it also takes a while for your metabolism to 89 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: recover from something like that. So there would be times 90 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: where I wasn't eating at all, Like I would not 91 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: eat for like days, and I do all these weird diets. 92 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: I used to just like drink cayenne pepper, lemon water 93 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: and like call that a meal. Um, just really crazy 94 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: stuff like that, and I wouldn't lose weight, and if anything, 95 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: I feel like like I don't feel like I noticed 96 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: that I like gained weight, like I wasn't like doing that, 97 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: but I was losing muscle and all of it was 98 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: being converted to fat. And that's like where like the 99 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: term skinny fat kind of comes in, UM, where it's 100 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: just like you you have no muscle because your body 101 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: is turning everything into fat. And also if you start 102 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: have too much, your body will start eating its own 103 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: organs because that's like the best option, which is terrifying. UM. So, 104 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: when you bring intermittent fasting in and somebody doesn't have 105 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: the kind of metabolism that that works for you're going 106 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: to not feel good. You might end up gaining weight, 107 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: and then that kind of like triggers this whole other thing, 108 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: because like I have to be really careful to not 109 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: weigh myself but also to like not throw my metabolism 110 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: for a loop, because right now I've settled into like 111 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: my body type and what it's supposed to look like 112 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: if I eat healthy the majority of the time, but 113 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: like also like down so brownies when I feel like it, 114 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: and I think that that's kind of falls under the 115 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: umbrella of intuitive eating. I've tried to not do too 116 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,679 Speaker 1: much research on what that is because I just don't 117 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: need to fall down that rabbit hole, because you can 118 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: be looking at something about like nutrition and then all 119 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're like looking at like nothing tastes 120 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: as good as skinny fields, and that ship is so 121 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: triggering for me. Um. But so like I'm just follow 122 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: what my body wants and it feels really simple, right, 123 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: Like it's like almost like ridiculous that that could be 124 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: like a concept, but it but it is, and it 125 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: works because your body tells you what you need, and 126 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: typically when you're craving something it's like your body knows 127 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: that that has that nutrient and you're missing that nutrient. 128 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: And also we crave brownies because we crave brownies. But like, 129 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: I just feel like following that has helped me a lot. So, 130 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: but the intermittent fasting thing. I have a friend who 131 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: was like, I feel like I'm not losing any weight 132 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: and I look different and I don't like how I 133 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,119 Speaker 1: feel in my body right now, and I'm not feeling 134 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: really good. But I'm doing this inter minute fasting thing, 135 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: so why isn't it working? And I was like, well, girl, 136 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: you're like thyroid is probably like hates you right now. 137 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: And I feel like we need to remember that everybody 138 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: is different. Everybody is different, and what works for some 139 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: girl on Instagram isn't necessarily going to work for you 140 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: and also might not even work for her. Because another 141 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: thing I feel like we forget when we're looking at 142 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: celebrities and seeing there like crazy workout routines and all 143 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: that is like, ay, they have a nutritionist, they have 144 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: unlimited access to vitamins and supplements because that stuff is 145 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: super fucking expensive. They have a personal trainer, they have um, 146 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: A lot of people have had work done so like 147 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: you can't compare your body in its natural state to 148 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: somebody who has all those resources and probably has had 149 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: lifeho section and temmy tucks, and there's a thing like 150 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: I don't I'm not diving into what's wrong with plastic 151 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: surgery because I just don't. I think it's up to 152 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: the individual, and I don't know if i'd be against 153 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: it after I like have kids one day and like 154 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: maybe want to feel like I'm in my normal body. 155 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: Like I respect it, but it's really fucked up. I 156 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: think as a celebrity to not be honest with people 157 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: about that, because you're you're just adding to the unattainable 158 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: like ideal of what our body should look like. So 159 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: like when you're just reading something celebrity posts online, just 160 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: remember that, like it's not just because they eat this 161 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: certain smoothie for breakfast every day, Like there's so much 162 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: more going on there and m hmm. Intermittent fasting is 163 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: not going to cure all your problems, and you should 164 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: follow your appetite and follow like what you feel like 165 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: your body needs and that might work for you, but 166 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: don't put pressure on yourself where you feel like absolute garbage, 167 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: because it's not working for you, because it doesn't mean 168 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: you're doing it wrong. It just might mean your body 169 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: doesn't like it and it would like to be treated differently, 170 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: And is you know, kind of rebelling against you because 171 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't like your approach. Yeah. So I've seen a 172 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: lot of stuff recently online talking about the Kardashians having 173 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: their um bbls dissolved, which is a Brazilian butt lift. 174 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: I don't even know what. I know that a lot 175 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: of people have had like really adverse reactions to it 176 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: because like I think it wasn't even illegal or wasn't 177 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: even legal in the US for a while, and people 178 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: were getting them done in other countries and basically just 179 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: having like cement injected into their asses. And I can't 180 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: imagine carrying that much that I would like. Well, I 181 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: guess I put my life at risk being hand rexit, 182 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: but I can't imagine doing that and like going under 183 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: anesthesia because I wanted a bigger butt and I have 184 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: like really fucked up body image issues and I've gotten 185 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: so much better over time, But like, I don't even 186 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: I think that's where I draw the line, and I 187 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: don't think like I'm using the Kardashians as an example. 188 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to vilify them, I just don't have 189 00:10:54,520 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: an opinion, but that people end up perpetuating these like 190 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: body trends, and body trends are really fucking weird because 191 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: you change your body and then the trend goes away. 192 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: It's not like a pair of jeans, like skinny jeans 193 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: used to be really in and now they're out, so 194 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: you can just like donate your jeans and buy a 195 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: new pair, and then when those go out of style, 196 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: you can do the same thing. But like that's not 197 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: how bodies work. Like you're kind of stuck with it. 198 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: And it's so interesting because at one point in the nineties, 199 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: like super skinny, like real thin no ass with giant 200 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: fake tits was really in and it's a really bizarre 201 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: look because that's not like that's not a thing anymore. 202 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: Um And when you see like these women who had 203 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: that done back in the day, and they like just 204 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: look really unproportionate, and it's like a clearly something is 205 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: not like something's off, you know, like just from a 206 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: proportion standpoint, and you're you're like eyes know how to 207 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: sense that. It's almost like Uncanny Valley for bodies where 208 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: you look at something and you're like, okay, that's not 209 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: something that's human, but something's off and your your brain 210 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: knows that. Um. And I don't want that to sound 211 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 1: like I'm judging people's bodies, but like, I just want 212 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: to talk about the trend aspect, because people did that, 213 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: spent thousands and thousands of dollars on these trends, got 214 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: the really really really narrow noses, and now they're stuck 215 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: with those things even though that's not a trend anymore, 216 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: and like stronger features, like if when people are getting 217 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: those jobs, they do it completely differently, like they don't 218 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: look like that. And also people end up contouring their 219 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: noses a lot now, so not always getting nose jobs. 220 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: And then you have these breast implants and it's like 221 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: I don't feel I mean, I feel like men always 222 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: are like into boobs, but um, I don't feel like 223 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: they're as in style as they were and I have them, 224 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: so I feel like I can say that. Um, but 225 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: it like change to like butts and like being thick 226 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: and all of this stuff, and so like you you 227 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: can only change your body type so much with surgery too, 228 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: So like I remember I was like really big on 229 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: the squats thing. I was like, I'm gonna get a butt. 230 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it, and I'm gonna have a booty 231 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be great and men are gonna love me. 232 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: And I just couldn't do it, like no matter what 233 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: I was eating, no matter how much I was working out, 234 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: no matter how many squats I did. But I blame 235 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: myself and I'm like, I'm not good enough, I'm not 236 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: working out hard enough. But truthfully, it's just not my 237 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: body type. I just don't have an ass and that's okay, 238 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: that's completely fun. I also used to try to like 239 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: like I was thinking about getting a breast production and 240 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: like they're not even that big. But I just felt 241 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: like the um, you know, so many things in fashion 242 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: were made for a body type I didn't have. And 243 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: that's also the problem with trends because like, okay, people 244 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: are following trends, but then close follow those trends and 245 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: you have like fashion nova jeans, which I could never 246 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: fit into in my fucking life because my hips aren't 247 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: that big and my waist isn't that's wall and you 248 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: just create this like weird thing where it's like you 249 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: have to have one body type, and it's not even 250 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: necessarily like just being skinny. It's having like these very 251 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: specific proportions. And then now that that's changing and butts 252 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: are out, apparently we're going I've seen these articles that 253 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: are like talking about going back to the super skinny 254 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: supermodel like Kate Moss smoking a cigarette aesthetic from the 255 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: late nineties, and it's like, we can't perpetuate the bodies 256 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: are a trend when you're like born with one and 257 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: you can only change it so much from diet, exercise, 258 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: and like plastic surgery. It's endlessly frustrating to me. So 259 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: I feel like that's something we're also up against every day, 260 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: is like fighting those standards and the fact that they 261 00:14:53,520 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: are just sometimes change at all times. YEA. So a 262 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: huge part of why I wanted to revisit this topic 263 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: was this article that I saw that was like baby 264 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: els are out, heroin chic is back in, and like 265 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: that's what they called the Kate Moss smoking a cigarette 266 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: acetic from the nineties, and it was just as like, 267 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's exactly what it sounds like. It's just 268 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: like super skinny and kind of sickly and a body 269 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: type that very few people have in a healthy way. Um, 270 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: but I also have to say, like this article was 271 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: totally written from a perspective of someone who was not 272 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: necessarily saying it was a bad thing. And they were 273 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: just like they're like, look without and look what's in, 274 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: like as if we're talking about like fucking shoes, and 275 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: it was so upsetting. And I also like, I mean, 276 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm granted I'm a little extra sensitive because of my life, 277 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: but like I had, I have a sister who died 278 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: from a heroin overdose, Like I don't really want people 279 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: using that and like throwing it around like she was 280 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: heroine skinny because she was on heroin, not because she 281 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: thought it was cute and trendy and what Kim Gardashian 282 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: was going for now, Like it just feels like a 283 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: really fucking dark way to put it. And I thought 284 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: that maybe we've evolved enough in the past twenty five 285 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: years that we could like ditch that phrase. And you know, 286 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: I don't expect society to be less problematic about this, 287 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: to be completely honest, but I would think that maybe 288 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: they'd find a better term for referring to super skinny, 289 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: and like that's like an aesthetic you see now, like 290 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: it's like heroin chic aesthetic, Like also heroin chic. Heroin 291 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: is not chic, like stop it no bad and that's 292 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: just like ship Like, I mean, it's really hard because 293 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: when something like that hits that close to home, like 294 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: my sister, there's just triggers everywhere. And that's like, you know, 295 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: a micro trigger. And I don't want to sound like 296 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: a you know, snowflake saying that, but it is triggering 297 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: because I'm just like going about my day and then 298 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: it's like boom heroin and then I'm like boom crying 299 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: and it's just not I mean, I'm sure people feel 300 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: similarly about about like cancer, like just hearing that stuff 301 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: and like not being able to void it and TV 302 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: and like if you lost like a parent to it, 303 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: it's just awful. Um. But yeah, So I just was 304 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: like spiraling about how angry I was about the heroine 305 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: chic thing, and I I am so happy though that 306 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: there's good examples out there. I'm really happy that Taylor 307 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: Swift is being open about her eating disorder. It's not 308 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: anyone's business, she doesn't have to do that, but I 309 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: do think it's like it's important for people to see 310 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: that like a she wasn't that skinny naturally. Um again, 311 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: very few people are and be like she's beautiful and 312 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: talented and rich and gorgeous and still has had issues 313 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: with her body, like no one's immune to it um 314 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: at all. And I also love like Victoria's Secret by Jack's. 315 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with that song. Um, it's so good. It's 316 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: such a positive message and it also throws in some 317 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: like Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy theories, which I think is really 318 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: interesting but if you like and the fact that I 319 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: got released around the same time as that Victoria's Secret 320 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: documentary about the Jeffrey Epstein tian so like it was 321 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: not on purpose, like just happened, which is like very cool, 322 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: very good timing for Jack's. She's been hustling for a 323 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: really long time. Um. I remember I first heard her 324 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: music when she was in this band called Meadowland, which 325 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: was like I don't know if they opened for Testa 326 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: Py or if they were doing a contest, but I 327 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: remember like seeing them on Twitter when I was in 328 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: high school, so I'm an OG fan. But I love 329 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: that song. It's so well written and it's like, I 330 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: don't know It's just one of those things where I'm like, Okay, 331 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: this is why I want my third junior, a little 332 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: sister to see. Like it's just great. And I noticed 333 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: that Victoria's Secret pretty shortly thereafter did like a body 334 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: positive campaign, which is like a little I don't want 335 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: to say too little, too late, because it still is important, 336 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: but it's also like come on, guys, come on, like 337 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: I can't leave. It took you this one. And I'm 338 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: also so thankful for stores like Airy, like I love 339 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: Airy so much, Like that's where I want to take 340 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: my thirteen year old sisters shopping for bras. She's not 341 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: going in and seeing this like hyper sexualized, super skinny stuff. 342 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 1: She's seeing people who look like her, who are like 343 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: beautiful and smiling and happy and doing things like I 344 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: just I love their entire aesthetic, like the whole nature thing. 345 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: I love the um thing they did with Kelsey Ballerini, 346 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: like from her being like an ambassador, just very cool. 347 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: I just I love Airy. Like whenever I have to 348 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: fill out like a questionnaire with my production team where 349 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: they're like, what's your like goal advertiser for your podcast, 350 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm like Airy, Airy hands down. So this is my 351 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: this is my desperate Please please sponsor me. Arry, I 352 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: really love you. I'm wearing I'm wearing an entire area 353 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: off there right now. Um. But yeah, just that's that 354 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: stuff gives me hope. But I can't believe it took 355 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: that long for Victoria's Secret to get the fucking message. Um. 356 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: But I love that song. And I do feel like 357 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: despite all of this messaging in everywhere and everywhere, Um, 358 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: I am doing better with my body than I ever 359 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: have been. Um. It's very rare that I have thoughts 360 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: that used to just like completely dominate my brain. And 361 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: I do find that, like I don't know if this 362 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: is a good advice for anybody, but it's worked for me. 363 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: I do find that I am a little triggered by 364 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: being hungry because it's such a familiar feeling to me, 365 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: and it's like familiar in a really bad way. Like 366 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: it's just I used to really struggle with that, and 367 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: I would like get sort of addicted to the feeling 368 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: of being hungry, and that's just like really bad. Um. 369 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: And so when I don't have time to eat in 370 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: the middle of the day, because that just happens to everybody, 371 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: Like I get really grumpy, and then I start to 372 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: think about, like, oh, like if I could just feel 373 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: like this a little bit longer, like I could be skinnier, 374 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: and I could be and I'm like, shut the funk up, Keyley, 375 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: absolutely not. Those sazis do go away, and so I 376 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: just avoid it by just eating all the time and 377 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: that to that point, Like that might not work for everybody, 378 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: but for me, versus intermittent fasting, I feel like my 379 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: body responds best when I'm constantly feeding it and doing 380 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: like six smaller ish meals a day or like four 381 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: large snacks and then doing like a really big dinner 382 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: because I just like love food and I love going 383 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: out to dinner. Um, but I feel like that's been 384 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: really helpful for me, and it's been a lot less 385 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: triggering to not like feel that kind of dizzy lightness, 386 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: heavy like head rush feeling that happens from being hungry, 387 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: Like I just I don't need to go there, but 388 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: I do feel better than I ever have. UM. I also, 389 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: full disclosure, um, started eating a little bit of meat again. 390 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: Like I still am mostly vegetarian, like flexitarian is a 391 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: good term, But as soon as I started eating me 392 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: like I started eating like healthy stuff like not processed, 393 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: like going to like the local butcher shop, going do 394 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: they like have their farms are like solar powered and 395 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: like really really like reduced waste and um, trying to 396 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: be as ethical as I can about it, because I 397 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: do feel like ikey when I eat animals, but I 398 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: feel so much better. Um, I definitely think I had 399 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: an iron deficiency. I just by bringing in a little 400 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: bit into my diet because I just don't feel like 401 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: I was being a responsible vegetarian, I feel a lot better, 402 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: and my doctor and I've talked about it, and it's like, Okay, 403 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: if this is working for you and you feel better, 404 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: don't add guilt into the picture, because guilt is what 405 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: made my neating disorder spirals so much. So I'm just 406 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: trying to like listen to my body and ideally one 407 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: day we live in a world where you can get 408 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: all your nutrients very easily from vegan foods. I can't 409 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: um because I just like I've I've looked into it, 410 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: but then I end up like counting things like calories 411 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: and protein and all of that, and that's like such 412 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: a slippery slow for me. So I just feel like 413 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: what I'm doing right now is working and I'm listening 414 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: to my body and it's not ideal, but I'm trying 415 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: to not get into that like dirty versus clean, good 416 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: versus bad food thing. Um, So we're working on it. 417 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: We're evolving. Every day is just one step closer to 418 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: being better, and I want to just make sure I'm 419 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: not getting swept up into old habits. But that's my 420 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: little update on Hungary as the new skinny. Um. Thank 421 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: you guys so much for listening, and I will be 422 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: back next week. I'm really sure. And this is too 423 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: much to say, but don't gonna ask me questions to 424 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: do answer, So I've got to say now'll tell it 425 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: out to you. You