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Speaker 3: away the rest of my books here. Now with that said,

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Speaker 3: by the name of Charles V. Sassar, Junior, Command Sergeant Major, Retire, retired.

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Speaker 3: Charles V. Sassar, Junior, is whose career in the United

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Speaker 3: Charles entered the Army in August of eighty four with

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Speaker 3: Throughout his career, Charles embarked numerous deployments to regions such

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Speaker 3: never broken.

434
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, back to show I'm going in.

435
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 4: He's got such a strategic, forward thinking mind that you

436
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 4: know he needed to do do something more. It's funny

437
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 4: because my aspect scores my best, the best part of

438
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 4: my aspects when I ran, we're clerical, which it helped

439
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 4: me in the in the end because as you you know,

440
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 4: as you grow in your army, you have to do

441
00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 4: more administrative stuff and so you know, I got pretty

442
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 4: good at it, and.

443
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 5: The asbad told me that I would be good at it.

444
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 4: But yeah, he you know, I knew that the Randy

445
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 4: regiment was standing up is brand new. It was the

446
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 4: first you know, first Command Team vert commanding was a

447
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 4: guy named Jim Mingus, who is now the Vice Chief

448
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 4: of Staff of the Army, who.

449
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 5: Was the Vergade commander right after Randy George. So I

450
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 5: ended up knowing him.

451
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 4: But before that time, I'm sitting in uh Iraq or Afghanistan,

452
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 4: Shawn's and Iraq, and I used to call him and

453
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 4: talk to him, and I said, hey, he had met

454
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,959
Speaker 4: Randy George. I say this, this, this guy named Jim Mingus,

455
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 4: this guy named Jim Minus is going to replace Randy

456
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 4: as a BREVIDI commander. And I said, I've heard that

457
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 4: name somewhere before. And Sean said, you know, I know

458
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 4: where you know it from. I'm like, hell, do you

459
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 4: know where I know it? He hadn't been in the army,

460
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 4: but you know, a few days and he said he

461
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 4: was my battalion commander.

462
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 5: So he was Shawn's battalion commander.

463
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 4: The very first Radie mind STV commander. And then as

464
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 4: you made pul colonel, he replaced Randy George. So this

465
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 4: guy was his commander and my commander both so small world.

466
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 3: The last name Sasser. You're a sergeant. He's a you know,

467
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 3: sergeant major, like is there a shadow that you're getting.

468
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 3: So I go to the VA and they look up

469
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,479
Speaker 3: my last name and they're like, are they look at

470
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 3: my Okay? My dad went to the VA and they

471
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 3: looked up the last name and they're like, are you Aaron?

472
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 3: And he's like, do I look like a leg to you?

473
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 3: That's what he said, okay, because I'm I'm the Aaron,

474
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 3: right and I'm the leg. And he said that to

475
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 3: the clerk. And my mom's like, he sure have heard

476
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 3: what your dad said when they asked if he was

477
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 3: you because we're both in the VA. Now, what about you?

478
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 3: Do you have any of those types of like, hey,

479
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 3: Sasser cam here is your dad? Is this your dad?

480
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: You know it's such an uncommon name outside of outside

481
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 1: of him?

482
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 6: You know?

483
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 5: Yes, I don't.

484
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever crossed path with anybody

485
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: that worked with him. Won't trying to think outside of

486
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: Colonel Vengus or us now, I don't know if we

487
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: ever if I ever crossed baths with anybody. We got

488
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 1: a funny, uh indirect story where his uh you say,

489
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: his his inspiration cross paths with some of the guys

490
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 1: that I worked with.

491
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 5: So we're sitting around We're sitting around one day in

492
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 5: the office. I'm pretty sure at the Friday, you know

493
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 5: most Fridays we come back from lunch.

494
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: And this is when I was in when I was

495
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 1: at betting and regiment still and on Opportunity starre in

496
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: Farm Burskin. We called him Teddy b Teddy be sitting

497
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: there behind his desk and I hear him chatting with

498
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: some of the squad leaders and team leaders. You know,

499
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a jee at the time away to

500
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: private or at PFC, and they're talking.

501
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 5: About this how they were at the they were at

502
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 5: the bar of the club or something, and they're doing

503
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 5: this uh jump master dance, and I'm like, huh, that's funny.

504
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: And you know, flashback outside of the story years ago,

505
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: him and his buddy, I don't even know, was it

506
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: in Brag or Buffalo, it was it.

507
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 5: It was somewhere. It was at a club and in Brag.

508
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: So in Brag him is Daryl. Darryl's before mentioned. Darryl

509
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: started this jump master dance where they would where they're

510
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: at the bar, digging around and yeah, they're they're well,

511
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: they're da Yeah, we were.

512
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 5: The music is playing. We were both going through drum

513
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 5: Baster School at the same time.

514
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 4: So we started doing this kind of you know, uh

515
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 4: a deal with you know, using the using the JMPI as.

516
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 3: A dance, like looking out the door, making sure it's

517
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 3: all clear, you know, making sure there's a huge.

518
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 5: You know, huge circle around the bar.

519
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: And so they start talking about this and I'm just

520
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: you know, listening, like I'm sure I got a ship

521
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: eating grin on my face. I'm like, I'm like, you know,

522
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: I throw it in there casually, like hey, my my

523
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: dad and his pl they they invented that. They start

524
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: they started that back in the day, and they're like,

525
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: oh man, there's no get out of here.

526
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'll prove it. So I get them on

527
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 5: the phone. I don't say anything. I say, hey you, Darryl,

528
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 5: you know, dance or bar anyway.

529
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 3: So yeah, jmp I dance and I hang up and

530
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 3: everybody's like, so it's become a lore legend.

531
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

532
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 5: So that's you know, you see the influences of that,

533
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 5: and that was you know, we had a kick out

534
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 5: of that.

535
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: But going back to your question, I don't know if

536
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: I ever crossed path with anybody that worked with you,

537
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: And I'm trying to think.

538
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 5: I'm sure I did, but I can't think of it.

539
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: It didn't dawn on them, and now maybe after they're like,

540
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 3: wait a second, Okay, this is all making sense, right. No,

541
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 3: you you ran your own rucks. You ran your own

542
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: you know, did everything you had to do, did your

543
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 3: own push ups, did drone pull ups. You had to

544
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 3: do all those things to do what you had to do.

545
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 3: Dad just had to bug mom to get you to

546
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 3: do those things. That's so awesome. Now I want to

547
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 3: talk about Charles has a rack. Okay, when I mean

548
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 3: a rack, I mean like, I know your eyes are

549
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 3: up here, okay, so major, but like right over here,

550
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 3: see what's side I oh yeah, left side. Okay, You've

551
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 3: got more than jump wings. You got more than like

552
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: a civ or cab badge. You got more than a

553
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 3: Pathfinder badger. You got like four or five Pokemon collectibles

554
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 3: there that uh I like to call, you know, awards

555
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 3: you've earned. Can you is it Pathfinder? Right? Pathfinder?

556
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 5: Yep?

557
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: Okay, Airborne.

558
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 4: Everything that I people will go to, you know, they'll

559
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 4: just get these you know, locks and chances to go

560
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 4: to these places which.

561
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 5: Look a little bit.

562
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 4: But I went to Airborom School right before I went

563
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 4: to the eighty second, but I had to go, so

564
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 4: I didn't go to airbroom School right away. In the military,

565
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 4: I went to Jump after school because I was there

566
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 4: in the eighty second. I went to eriksol at school

567
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 4: in a promoster courts because I was part of.

568
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 5: The hundred and first. I was in a path finding

569
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 5: position out at.

570
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 4: INTC all over your ROC's and kind of you know,

571
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 4: managing the and evaluating the units to come to or

572
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 4: helping them evalue with theirself. The position that I that

573
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 4: I was in, I was a OCI for Scout and

574
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 4: uh you know it was they had that uh embedded

575
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 4: in it.

576
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 5: So I did it then, so you.

577
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 4: Know all that And of course Ranger school, I mean

578
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 4: you had an infantry guy, you know, you you kind

579
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 4: of want to do it just to get that experience

580
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, see off you can push yourself

581
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 4: and and do that. And I actually went to range

582
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 4: school twice because I was injured the first time and

583
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: uh and left, so I knew what was was expected

584
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 4: up to then. But all, you know, all that stuff

585
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 4: I did was was because of the aid position I

586
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 4: was in kind of just all added up to.

587
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: The big you know stack as you say, yeah, you

588
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: kind of just went step by step by step of

589
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: your day, daily life and the next day you're now, okay, cool,

590
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 3: I'm going through ranger you know, in dock or whatnot,

591
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: and trying to push that. That was like a two

592
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: week program to get through the ranger in doctor Nation

593
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 3: to go to ranger school. Is that right?

594
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 5: So when I went to Ranger school, I didn't do

595
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 5: a RIP.

596
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 4: Now a lot of units require people to do a

597
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 4: little pre ranger course before they go, but I didn't

598
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 4: do it. They did have I don't know if they

599
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 4: still have it, but they did have zero week, which

600
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 4: didn't count towards anything except for you got the chance

601
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 4: to get out on the land of course, go ahead

602
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 4: and pike the PT test, the swim test, practice on

603
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 4: the optical courses and you know, do a twelve miller

604
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 4: and all that. So when everybody else came in after

605
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 4: zero week, you had already knocked out quite a few things.

606
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 5: So that did did make it easier.

607
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 3: So let me ask you something about that. Let me

608
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: let me ask you something about RIP real quick, or

609
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: about like going through the course as someone who's possibly

610
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: in the military, right now wanting to go through the

611
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 3: ranger course and they're thinking about it, and you've done that,

612
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 3: do you have access to run the cue the course

613
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 3: and like train on it priority? Like are you going

614
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: in blind not knowing that you got to swing across

615
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 3: X y z? I mean, is the weaver or any

616
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 3: of that kind of stuff, Like do they give you

617
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 3: access to that? Is there like some kind of preconditioning

618
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 3: work up where you can get familiar with those movements?

619
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 5: So, I mean obviously you.

620
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 4: Need to you got to know how to swim, so

621
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,959
Speaker 4: you know, practicing the swim test that they do there

622
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,239
Speaker 4: is absolutely you know, a good idea because you might

623
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: go all the way there and fail that. You know,

624
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 4: you need to be able to pass the PET test,

625
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 4: which their PEG test includes, and I believe it's still

626
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 4: the same way chin ups or pull ups, So you

627
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 4: got to be able to do that. Land navigation get out,

628
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 4: you know, and be familiar with that because once you

629
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 4: get through what they call the rapport the radio assessment

630
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 4: phase portion of it, where they kind of weed out

631
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 4: everybody that that that it shouldn't be there because they

632
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 4: got weeded out be ready or mainly ready or whatever,

633
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 4: then you kind of just get on with the patrolling

634
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 4: and all that, and there's not a lot of I mean,

635
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 4: there's still the you know, the small fest where they

636
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 4: you know, uh, you know, doggy out, but it's all

637
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 4: learning and patrolling then and then then it's just a

638
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 4: matter of hey, I got to suck it up without

639
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 4: the sleep.

640
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 5: And then the worst thing for me was the food

641
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 5: because I love to eat. The sleep wasn't It didn't

642
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 5: get me that bad, although you know.

643
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 4: I did struggle a few times, but just just eating,

644
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 4: I think I lost twenty twenty something bounce. But Army

645
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 4: got some great The national Guard actually runs. When I

646
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 4: was in we were sending people to a National Guard

647
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 4: had a pregranger right forbidding or an't remember what it's

648
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 4: called now, anyway, they've got to run there. That I

649
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: think it was had the highest rate of first time

650
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 4: goes or passing all the way.

651
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 5: Through of any other pregranger. Because if you run a

652
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 5: pregranger as first every division.

653
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 4: Or the eighty second or sport, you got to take

654
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 4: those instructors and all those people out of hide.

655
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 5: You know, you're not task organized with did those people

656
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 5: that do that? So you actually have to do it

657
00:31:59,000 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 5: on your own.

658
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 4: So it's a great it's a great deal to be

659
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 4: able to send people somewhere where that's all they're focused on.

660
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 4: One of the guys that runs it used to work

661
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 4: out at the ranger camp. He's now to billion. That's

662
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 4: they're kind of their EXO or deputy commanding officer or something.

663
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 4: Now I was never into rangers, but Seawan had to

664
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 4: go through and I want to call it now RASP

665
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 4: and or Rangers Injury Assessment solection program. Certain leader leaders

666
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 4: have to go through RAFT and used to be.

667
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 5: Listed and uh go through the world.

668
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you went through also the Ranger program, right, Seawan, I.

669
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 5: Never got tabbed, but I went through where it was.

670
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 5: It's called RASP. Now it's the selection process to get

671
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 5: into to get into regiment.

672
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: But it's probably one of the only, if not the

673
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: only regret of my military careers because this this one

674
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: gets to talk smack on me, is I never got tabbed.

675
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 3: So I'm a leg I have to live with a

676
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 3: green berry calling your leg but on his leg, so

677
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: you're his.

678
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 5: But four weeks of RIP was was no joke.

679
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: It's you know, we started out with one hundred and

680
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: fifty seven and fifty five made. It's so about to

681
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: do third nutrition rate in the in the rip program

682
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: there and it was hell.

683
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 3: I've heard stories of guys going through you know, the

684
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 3: in doc and some things that I still want to

685
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 3: say because I don't know, but you know, it just

686
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: sounds like a good time.

687
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was the best weeks of my life. We'll say, yeah, sure.

688
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,719
Speaker 3: Right, it's a good way to sum it up, right,

689
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: So I don't want to scare someone on the Fenceive going, ranger,

690
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: Go do it right, Go check it out, Go see

691
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: go get tabbed, Go get in the regiment.

692
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you have the intestinal fortitude, it's that's the

693
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: place to you know, that's the place to test it somehere.

694
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 5: You just got to laugh when you're when you're there,

695
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 5: you just gotta you gotta give it in.

696
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 4: And lou mean and I used to tell a great instructor,

697
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 4: you know, quit tomorrow because they were all I quit tomorrow.

698
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 5: They came, you know, you already tomorrow. Because there are

699
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 5: people you could just.

700
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 3: Walk away like maybe tomorrow. Maybe I got through today,

701
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 3: but maybe tomorrow. And they're just like God, fine, be

702
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 3: one of us. Now let me ask you this. Let

703
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: me go back real quick, for our listener and for anyone. Uh,

704
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 3: they have changed a lot of bases in the US

705
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 3: military because of past names Confederate and things like that.

706
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 3: So now Fort Benning it's called Fort Moore, and uh

707
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 3: that's right. Yeah, I just wanted to put that out there,

708
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 3: you know, because they are making I want to get

709
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 3: real with it and start appreciating what they're doing here.

710
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 3: So Fort Moore was Fort Benning and uh wow, I

711
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 3: mean that's a whole nother phase right there. You know,

712
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 3: I grew up in an armory in Utah with my

713
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 3: dad running the armory and all the guys, and uh,

714
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 3: it was a very different day. And now we've flipped

715
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 3: that page and a lot of the same brick structures

716
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: are still on bases that are from those eras, and

717
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 3: you know, all of that juju of trying to do

718
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 3: the right thing with naming these bases, and now they're

719
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 3: going say, hey, we got to get rid of that

720
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: and that stigma on it. So what do you think, Yeah, well,

721
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 3: I mean, you know.

722
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 5: They things changing the in the in the military.

723
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 4: I mean I wore five or six different types of

724
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 4: uniforms just in thirty years.

725
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 5: You know, so much changes. I think Uh.

726
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 4: Fort Bragg was the only one that didn't name it

727
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 4: after somebody someone because they call it for livery. But

728
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,959
Speaker 4: the rest were named after great Americans that served either

729
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 4: as infantry guys or you know, the aviators.

730
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 5: That they named for Rucker after, you know, and uh

731
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 5: and you know greats. Hey, you know, build flow me

732
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 5: And it's I still say full Bragg a lot, just

733
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 5: because it's embedded in me.

734
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 4: Not but and bending because I couldn't remember it was

735
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 4: more to live but uh yeah, I mean.

736
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 5: They're all still the same. And and the structures and

737
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 5: the people make it anyway, like you said, and and

738
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 5: some of those places are they're just timeless.

739
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 4: I mean I love going it for betting before More

740
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 4: and just seeing seeing the jump tower and all those

741
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 4: you know, the whole barracks and you know some of

742
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 4: them are gone now, you know, been driving around those.

743
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 3: Places when you were at four More Fort Benning, Okay,

744
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 3: it's almost like Twitter and X I swear it's like

745
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: when you were there though, Okay, when you were there.

746
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: Were you there during the time that the Tank Division

747
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 3: was merged into the infantry base there and they had

748
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: a mechanized unit and then all of a sudden outside

749
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 3: the base and when Abrams was painted light blue.

750
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I I yeah, No, I wasn't.

751
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 4: They did have an ententry unit there when I went

752
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 4: through there just one to tie. And when they moved

753
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 4: the Armor school before Knox, I was actually still the

754
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 4: division commands our major for one ID and we had

755
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 4: more brigades in that division at the time than any

756
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 4: division in the Army.

757
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 6: Of the eight brigade and three of them were outside

758
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 6: of Fort Riley, five on Fort Riley and then one

759
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 6: at Fort Knox where the armored schools at, one at

760
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 6: Fort Seal, and one at Fort Linnarpoot.

761
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 4: And we actually go out and visit the folks at

762
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 4: uh at Fort Knox, and I think I was chatting

763
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 4: with one of the senior leaders there, can remember who,

764
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 4: but they had just had a meeting and with one

765
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 4: of the congressmen or senators from Kentucky. And we at

766
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 4: our we already knew this at Fort Riley that they

767
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 4: were really upset that the Armor school was moving away

768
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 4: from Fort Knox because, I mean, as you know, as

769
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 4: everybody is aware, I mean, a military organization brings a

770
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 4: lot of money to a state.

771
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 5: I mean a lot of money. They want to Fort

772
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 5: Knox is.

773
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 4: Still open, but there's human resources in the RTC command.

774
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 4: I think it's all that's up there. I've got a

775
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 4: We've got a good friend, Jimmy Locke. It was my

776
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 4: EXO and US three at the TIA Brigade that works

777
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 4: up there in the HR area. I haven't talked about it,

778
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 4: but I imagine it's a pretty, uh like a ghost town.

779
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 3: Now.

780
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a huge That was a huge footprint

781
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 5: that moved away from there. Of course Georgia was happy, but.

782
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 4: More got really big, a lot of new you know

783
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 4: buildings and you know, new infrastructure and.

784
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 3: A whole new payroll from a whole new brigade moving

785
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 3: in right within that two mile splash zone of a base,

786
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 3: right there's usually you know, going off base within two miles,

787
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 3: you go to the local pub, get somebody, the tailor shop.

788
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 3: You know, you got your you know area that those

789
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 3: those businesses right there, the economic burden that they have

790
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 3: to sustain, you know, of losing all of those patrons

791
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 3: because you know we're gonna shift them. And I'm glad

792
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 3: there's a base open here. Hill Air Force Base in Utah.

793
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 3: We were talking briefly about how you stayed here or

794
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 3: came out here to do some stuff. You know, it

795
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 3: was always on the it was possible. It was always

796
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 3: on the chopping block at one point. And they're always like,

797
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: we won't let it happen. And when I was released,

798
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,479
Speaker 3: when I was re doing my lease for my shop

799
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: up there right outside hill, I said, hey, I want

800
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: a close in here that says I can back out

801
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: of our contract if the base gets shut down. And

802
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 3: landowner looked at me, like, what, that'll never happen. I

803
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 3: was like, well, then put it in the contract. Especially

804
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 3: with my business that you got the war games I do,

805
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 3: war games I sell. Yeah, I have like a whole

806
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: I have a couple of stores. I have an indoor

807
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: shoot house up there that uh you know, we have

808
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 3: all the guns on the wall, all the combat battle

809
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: rattle everything. Yeah, it would be. It would affect all

810
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 3: It would affect all the pizza places literally, you know,

811
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 3: like these guys that get you know, five six pizza

812
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 3: set up to the squadron would be gone.

813
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 5: Yeah.

814
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 4: I might ever during ways be very poor Campbell during

815
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 4: when the first ball of war went down. I mean

816
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 4: probably fifty percent of the businesses around for Campbell just

817
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 4: either just took a break and stopped and then open

818
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 4: back up, or just now look like COVID, I guess,

819
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 4: you know, just just everything shut down.

820
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and living through that and knowing that, I

821
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: think I've put myself in my company in a good

822
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 3: spot for that again, you know what I'm saying. That's

823
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 3: why I said, hey, if you're if you're willing to

824
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 3: say it'll never shut them, they'll never shut the base down,

825
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 3: then put it in the contract. If you're not scared,

826
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 3: then don't be scared. Right, It's okay. Yeah, Now now

827
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: now that you're out of the military, okay, the both

828
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 3: of you are out, are you re enlisting it all? Sean?

829
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,479
Speaker 3: Is this something in your life? Or you're done?

830
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: No?

831
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 5: I actually got med board, So I went through a

832
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 5: medical chapter and that pushed out.

833
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, gratulations, Yeah, you know, it's it's a it's

834
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: a bettersweet ending, but I'm done.

835
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: How many med boards did you have to go through

836
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 3: before you got the rating that you deserved?

837
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: You know? I did the initial med board to get

838
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: pushed out, and then I think one or two after that.

839
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: You think reevaluating twice, you know, I think I got

840
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: re evaluated twice, and then that was the.

841
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 3: Do you think that you really needed to be reevaluated twice?

842
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 5: Are you asking it?

843
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 3: I'm I'm asking you. See, so going through an emty

844
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 3: B board, you have to, you know, go through they're

845
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 3: gonna give you a rating h X y Z, you

846
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 3: know when you get out of the military or d

847
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: D two fourteen gets stamped with whatever. That's what I'm

848
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 3: saying is like, you know, I've dealt with a MED board.

849
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 3: It was a bit of a back and forth circus. Yeah, okay,

850
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, you know, who are these people

851
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 3: that are running these things?

852
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's there's.

853
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 4: Been bad I mean, some stuff, you know, obviously gets

854
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 4: re evaluated because you could get better. I got a

855
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 4: letter one time saying that, you know, they were gonna

856
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 4: take a look at the portion of my via disability

857
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 4: that my back right, your back is combined into everything.

858
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 4: So all the stuff by your back is really just

859
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 4: one thing. But one of mine is degenerative disc u

860
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 4: s order and authoritis. And you know, just by virtue

861
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 4: of the name degenerative, it's not going to get any better.

862
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 5: And so that was kind of odd to me. But anyway,

863
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 5: it sorted itself out. I know a lot of great

864
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 5: people working at the VA doing these things.

865
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: And did you have to get any outside council to

866
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 3: help you with your METB board or did you guys

867
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: just get it done with your own ingenuity? Right?

868
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 5: No, actually, you know I got the DAV helped me out.

869
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 5: And then what was that other organization again? Remember the name, Yeah,

870
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 5: that's the one you gave me. Yeah, there was another

871
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 5: company that our organization that got involved. Yeah, so you

872
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 5: can only have one advocate as far as the VA

873
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 5: is concerned, So you have to go in and change yourself.

874
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 5: Mine is still the.

875
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 4: DAV, but they've got an office out here at the

876
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 4: at the VA hospital that we both go to.

877
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 5: The DAV has actually got an.

878
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 4: Office there, So it's a good it's a good one

879
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 4: to have person, you know. Yeah, the BA in Ornando

880
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 4: area is great.

881
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 3: I mean, and I bring that up because you know

882
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 3: here we are, right, It's it's a real thing. It's

883
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 3: a conversation of after the military. There's others that are

884
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: probably listening that have been through the same exact office,

885
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: you know, the same exact you know process, and it

886
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 3: might have been frustrating for them. And I'm just trying

887
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 3: to or not. It could have been seamless. It's like, hey,

888
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 3: obvious injuries, it's one hundred percent, you're out, you know.

889
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 3: Or it's hm, you're thirty thirty percent, Well now you're

890
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 3: forty fifty percent. Now if you keep getting now you're

891
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 3: sixty percent. Well we'll just roll you into one hundred percent.

892
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 3: I'd like the VA just to kind of like say, hey,

893
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: you did your time, You're good to go. Here's your

894
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know what I'm trying to get at.

895
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 3: Maybe you can hear what I'm saying.

896
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 5: I probably didn't have as much as much angstra problems

897
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 5: as a lot of people just because of my virtue

898
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 5: of my position.

899
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: Right.

900
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 4: So I sat down with one of the doctors at

901
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 4: the hospital at Fort Riley and they went through and

902
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 4: anybody can have this done. But I mean, you know, basically,

903
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 4: I you know, I said, hey, I'm gonna sho O

904
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 4: for this, and they had, you know, one of the

905
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 4: senior doctors went through page by page, you.

906
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 5: Know, with me on thanks, and then you know, went

907
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 5: to the VA and.

908
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 4: Was it at in Kansas anyway, went to a V

909
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 4: hospital in Kansas and kind of finished everything up, and.

910
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 5: There was a couple of things that I had never

911
00:43:58,680 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 5: had done before.

912
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 4: I had some high speed hearing tests that I had

913
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 4: never done before, you know, more than the standard hearing

914
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 4: test that determined I had Like I knew I had

915
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 4: tonight itis anyway, the ring, but it actually you know,

916
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 4: the was able to people feed it.

917
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 5: Down on paper.

918
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: So I think the system now is a lot better

919
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 1: because they I think they started this before you got

920
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: out to where before you would get out and have

921
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: to continue the process of doing everything, and then they

922
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: change it to where all right, you're going to have

923
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: everything done before.

924
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 5: You get out of the army, you know, the final

925
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 5: sign out so to speak, or day out. I think

926
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 5: that's what kind of you went to it, and why.

927
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 3: No, it's crazy And I would say that at the VA.

928
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 3: You know, what I'm trying to point out is that

929
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 3: you know that it might sometimes get a bad rap

930
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 3: from people who don't go through the process, like the

931
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 3: outsiders that are saying the VA is it supporting its

932
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 3: veterans or the you know, the processes is very convoluted

933
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: with you know, hurdles, and I know it is right,

934
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 3: it's red there's red tape involved with you know, going

935
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 3: through the process. But I still want to say that

936
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 3: we still have something that is better than nothing, right

937
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 3: going to the VA, being able to go there. I've

938
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 3: been to England and I've been to other places and

939
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: they don't quite have the same infrastructure for the veterans'

940
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 3: services what we kind of take for granted here in

941
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 3: the US as an American, we are like, oh, it's

942
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 3: just not good enough. But if you go and just

943
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 3: take a second and look outside of ourselves and see

944
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 3: what anybody else has for their veterans, It's like, that's right, mate.

945
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 3: You get one day a week, one day a year

946
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 3: with your medals, and that's cool with us. The rest

947
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 3: of the day, it's like, where's their veterans? So it's

948
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 3: good to hear that you had a good experience and

949
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 3: that you've had decent experiences.

950
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: You know.

951
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: I've always, like I said, I've gone to the VA.

952
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: I've taken my dad to the VA. Actually my mom

953
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: was the VA caregiver. Holy cow, power to the moms

954
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 3: out there that are pushing around all the dads that

955
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 3: are two hundred and forty five fifty sixty pounds now

956
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 3: because they can't help it in a wheelchair.

957
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, you see a lot of out there. You talking

958
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 5: about other militaries.

959
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 4: I uh, my last overseas gig was Brandon Nigerian soldiers

960
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 4: and although they have a volunteer army, they really do

961
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 4: not get treated well at all of the I was

962
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 4: teaching patrol and techniques over there, and there guys show

963
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 4: up and maybe sitting under a tree, and they say,

964
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 4: with him, he's got a malaria or he's got typhoid.

965
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 5: So much is he doing out here? Sending back to

966
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 5: the barracks put.

967
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: On him.

968
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 5: And then you know they they had a protein shape

969
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 5: and a loaf of.

970
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 3: Bread for their meals and they were content.

971
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, they were happy.

972
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, they're fighting the bocah Rama up north,

973
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 4: you know, a brutal insurgency, and you know they're actually

974
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 4: they're joining and fighting for their country literally because they're

975
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 4: you know, they've got people that you know are inside

976
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 4: it and invaded and that you know, we're trying to

977
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 4: the change things.

978
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 5: Of course, there's a lot of corruption over there.

979
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 4: They've got a lot of money. They've got enough money

980
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 4: to oil for it to be a you know, well

981
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 4: stre all the corruption keeps it from happening.

982
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 3: And there's the half to the half the hots right,

983
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 3: because if there's any humanitarian food coming in, it's getting

984
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 3: collected by whoever wants the humanitarian effort if there's any

985
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 3: right and then they're going to distribute it out to themselves.

986
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, it never works. That never works too well. Unless

987
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 5: we're on the ground.

988
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 3: What's the situation where you were at? What was the

989
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: water like?

990
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 4: Was it like?

991
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 3: Did they have wells? Did they did the places you were.

992
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 5: At have So we drank bottle of water. Nobody drank

993
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 5: out of the much some people may have drank out

994
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 5: of Wales.

995
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 4: But they have these little uh they would carry the

996
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 4: perried around the big carts and sell it. There's little

997
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 4: plastic bags of water, I mean really soft, so they

998
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 4: just punch a hole in it.

999
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 3: We had like a Caprice sun or something. Yeah, yeah,

1000
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: and I ate a.

1001
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 5: Lot of chicken over there and a lot of rice

1002
00:47:59,400 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 5: of variety.

1003
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 3: Pretty good though, pretty good cooking. Yeah.

1004
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1005
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 4: They they one of the big steakles of their diet

1006
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 4: are these huge football sized swing potatoes. And they allowed

1007
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 4: them to farm on the military installation. So as we're

1008
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 4: out there training on the ground.

1009
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 5: Patrolling and farming and picking and doing their things, and

1010
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 5: they do a lot of it by hand.

1011
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 3: There's it's like low crawling, but he's like just clearing

1012
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 3: out the cucumbers, moving along. Yeah, I love it. I

1013
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 3: love it.

1014
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 4: We tried not to, you know, get into farmers way

1015
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 4: because we didn't want to upset them. But you know,

1016
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 4: sometimes we had so many things going on that you know,

1017
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 4: they had to they had to, you know, put a

1018
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 4: little halt of their.

1019
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 3: Farming.

1020
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 5: I mean I enjoy training them a lot. I you know,

1021
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 5: I made some differends over there. It was it's a

1022
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 5: state department run thing all across Africa.

1023
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, taking an Elk trade military where you

1024
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 4: just try to teach some US tactics which are a

1025
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 4: lot better than the old tactic.

1026
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 5: So they're using so that they're able to fight a lot,

1027
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 5: a lot more productively, a.

1028
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 3: Lot better probably moving in like a call information, lining up,

1029
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 3: just like getting the bas a lot of old.

1030
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 5: Kind of you know, a lot of British influence there.

1031
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, like they want to probably like watch yeah yeah. Yeah.

1032
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 5: But the first battalion we trained, they went straight up

1033
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 5: to up north to fight.

1034
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 7: And you know we're doing reports that they were doing

1035
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 7: really well. So we were pretty happy to hear about that.

1036
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 7: We did patrol in convoy. Uh, you know, hit the

1037
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 7: ranges and try to make them a little better. They

1038
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 7: carried eight forty seven's arbig's and.

1039
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 4: And Soviet U style weaponry systems, CITs and land navigations

1040
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 4: and leadership training and things like that. So that's that's

1041
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 4: my passion training, you know, teaching, training, instructing, and you

1042
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 4: know Sean.

1043
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 5: Enjoys that well, you know, coaching all this. Yeah, yeah,

1044
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 5: that's just that's just my favorite thing to do, no

1045
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 5: matter if it's a little kid, you know, the grandsons

1046
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 5: or or somebody else.

1047
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 3: We do that all the time at the arena. You know,

1048
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 3: we're always instructing and coaching. Massive amounts of just regular

1049
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 3: public people showing up sixteen to twenty to time and

1050
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 3: it's like they never met each other. Maybe a couple,

1051
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 3: but here we are. First thing we do is we

1052
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 3: install install like a handshake or a high five. We're

1053
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 3: all on the same team and we're gonna split up

1054
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 3: and shoot each other. You're still on the same team. Okay, yeah,

1055
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 3: we want to do that.

1056
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 5: So we gotta make our way out to Utah and

1057
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 5: get out and check out your glaze.

1058
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 3: I would open the door for you. You just have

1059
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 3: to just show up. It would be no problem, Okay,

1060
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 3: especially if you've been on the show. That's a pass.

1061
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,479
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah. I mean we do night vision,

1062
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 3: We go out in the deserts, We got nods. We

1063
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 3: got guys that have got more in their eyewear than

1064
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 3: they have in their vehicles. Yeah, white foster civilians, former

1065
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 3: guys like yourselves. Maybe they don't. They're looking for some camaraderie.

1066
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 3: They can't find a hobby that they fit in. Then

1067
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 3: maybe they don't want to go snowboard because there's no

1068
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 3: snow Maybe they can't skateboard because they just can't. Maybe maybe, maybe,

1069
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 3: But you can go airsoft. You could come out to

1070
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 3: the desert. You can walk around with me and forty

1071
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: other people who all want to walk around the desert

1072
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 3: with rifles, and then we wave at each other and

1073
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 3: if you don't wave back, we shoot you. And then

1074
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 3: it just keeps going. So it's like it's really a

1075
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 3: nice day walking in the Utah desert or the mountains, exploring,

1076
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 3: looking for cucumbers to weed, and then coming into contact

1077
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 3: and then that happens so fast, and everything happens. Then

1078
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 3: he settles if you will, like the dust and you

1079
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 3: kind of like, all right, all right, he got shot,

1080
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 3: he's walking back, he's dead. Okay, he'll learn from that.

1081
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 3: I'm still alive and the rounds are still coming over

1082
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 3: your head. So you get this camaraderie. This like shoulder

1083
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 3: to shoulder. It's like I'm out of AMMO. It's like here,

1084
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 3: here's some AMMO.

1085
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: You know.

1086
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 3: It's like, hey, then we got a grenade. Yeah, here,

1087
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 3: better to have one than not have one.

1088
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 4: You know.

1089
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 3: It's like, so I find that, you know, today's air softer,

1090
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 3: whether they're fifteen year old who's playing wholeheartedly, just like

1091
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 3: they got it down, they got all the gear, they're

1092
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 3: all decked out, and they might become tomorrow's you. Right,

1093
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 3: So this is this is a good segue for them

1094
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 3: to say, Hey, you know, these guys did it. They're successful.

1095
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 3: There's life after what they did. They've made it through

1096
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 3: by listening to their instructors and using their training wisely

1097
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 3: and just you know, being smart. Right, that's what we

1098
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 3: want to show. I'm giving you these credits.

1099
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 5: We've been on a.

1100
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: Kick recently where we're watching a few videos from this

1101
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: this guy on YouTube kicking.

1102
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 3: Mustang Yes is channel Yes.

1103
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: Former former British says sniper I think and he does

1104
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: these videos and every time we watch it, well, I

1105
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: don't think either of us have ever done it or Soft.

1106
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 5: I've done pain ball, you telling them nurse. Every time

1107
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 5: we watch these kicking musty videos, we're like, yeah, we

1108
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 5: got it. So, by the way, it could be pricey

1109
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 5: and it could be time consuming, but that's something we

1110
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 5: got to get into.

1111
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 3: I tell my guys that kind of like, there's this

1112
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 3: there's this fine line where people are like, I shoot

1113
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 3: real guns. I'm like, that's cool. Who do you shoot

1114
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 3: them at? That's what I say. I'm like, you shoot

1115
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 3: real guns. Okay, cool? They want to come at me.

1116
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 3: It's like I shoot real guns. I'm like that's great.

1117
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 3: Nothing will ever replace the smell or the violence of

1118
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 3: a real rifle or a real gun. Nothing. Okay that

1119
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 3: you need to know that, But Airsoft. Airsoft in wargames

1120
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 3: is a whole nother game. It's cardio conditioning. I'm moving

1121
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 3: with my equipment.

1122
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 5: I have it on me.

1123
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 3: I know how it's going to work on my body.

1124
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 3: My headsets all set up, I'm dialed in and the

1125
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 3: fifteen twelve year old, thirty seventy year old, they're all

1126
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 3: dialed in, right, And so I.

1127
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: Think getting into that mindset of you know, the heightened

1128
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: state of awareness where you're thinking about tactics constantly.

1129
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 5: Like you said, it's not just a stroll in the

1130
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 5: park or whatever. It's no, it's tightened awareness for an

1131
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:44,439
Speaker 5: extended amount of time.

1132
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: And getting yourself into that mindset is a sense of training,

1133
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: and it so fitness.

1134
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:48,959
Speaker 5: For your brain.

1135
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 3: And if you haven't put face paint on in anticipation

1136
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 3: of hunting somebody, there's nothing like it. And I look

1137
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 3: at your dad, start major, and you've got a skull

1138
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 3: for some stripes, you know what I mean? Only imagine

1139
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 3: I like to go all green with three black stripes.

1140
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 3: A little commando meets the green. Okay, that's me. And

1141
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 3: I pull my hair back just like this, put it

1142
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 3: into a ball. I braid my beard into two braids

1143
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 3: just like this, and then I just become small and

1144
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 3: just go at it with three hundred of us.

1145
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: You know.

1146
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 3: Sometimes we'll use military a recruiter.

1147
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 5: On your area. I'd be taking guys out of here.

1148
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 3: So I'm not paid by anybody, right, I actually choose

1149
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 3: this path of life where they have said, hey, rad,

1150
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 3: how can we? How can we? And I'm like, there's

1151
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 3: not We don't want to actively ruin the game by being,

1152
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 3: you know, like you gotta join. I'm I'm a recruiter

1153
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 3: on a Saturday. It's like, Yeah, if you're a recruiter

1154
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 3: and it's a Saturday and you got to do something,

1155
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 3: you should go play Airsoft. And I don't mean poach Airsoft.

1156
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 3: I mean you should play it. You should go there

1157
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 3: and you should just shoulder to shoulder with these guys

1158
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 3: and gals and just kind of buddy up and say, oh,

1159
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 3: you know, I'm just I'm not here to do anything.

1160
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 3: I just want to play. It'll, it'll happen. I've put

1161
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 3: in over probably seven hundred and fifty different people in

1162
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 3: my twenty years of Airsoft with as a COI as

1163
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 3: a center of influence for the army, as a you know,

1164
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 3: and and that was in two thousand and seven, two

1165
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 3: thousand and nine, twenty ten, and I've just kind of

1166
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 3: done it now. Just if you want to join, if

1167
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 3: you're on the fence, if you're at a one or

1168
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 3: a ten on the scale of joining, just go ten.

1169
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 3: That's how I say it. If you're even on the scale,

1170
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 3: if even stepping on that mofo, just go for it.

1171
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 3: Just step into an office, talk to somebody and see

1172
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 3: if they talk to you the way you want. And

1173
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 3: if that's what you get, then that's what you got.

1174
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 3: That's me. And there you go, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine,

1175
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 3: Space Force. There you go from soft rep and love here.

1176
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 3: I'm all about it.

1177
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 6: You know.

1178
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 3: It's like if I didn't try and go as far

1179
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 3: as I did, if you didn't try and go as

1180
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 3: far as you did, if you didn't try and go

1181
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 3: as far as you did, we wouldn't have. Like you said,

1182
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 3: these bonds, these stories just who we are, so we

1183
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 3: need go ahead.

1184
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 5: And I learned a lot about and then uh.

1185
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 4: The best advice I got from the first station that

1186
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 4: I had years and stay out to keep them infantry,

1187
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 4: but was.

1188
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 5: Just to be yourself.

1189
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 4: And that worked well for me in UH in recruiting,

1190
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 4: and you can't be two uh yellow recruiters that come

1191
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 4: across as uh, you know, the like they need you.

1192
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 3: They gotta have, they got to selects.

1193
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 4: And you know, I just act like you know, it

1194
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 4: didn't matter to me, give you all the information and

1195
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 4: I stay guys up to and yelled up to whatever

1196
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 4: when that was the closest army base.

1197
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 5: And I tell them I just pick somebody and will

1198
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 5: talk to them. You know, I got no influence. I

1199
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 5: didn't talk to anybody. Fix somebody to talk to them

1200
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 5: about it.

1201
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 4: And decide, you know, what you want to do. I mean,

1202
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 4: here's the here's the benefits. I mean, And there are

1203
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 4: certain things that you can't change. You know, I don't

1204
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 4: want to cut my hair.

1205
00:56:59,200 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: You have to.

1206
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 5: You know, they taught us to feel felt feel felt fine,

1207
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 5: or some method. I know, I feel I felt the

1208
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 5: same way, but I found that this sure, you know.

1209
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 4: And then there's all the things that people just they

1210
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 4: think the army or military service is like being.

1211
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 5: In jail, like you can't do anything, you know, on

1212
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 5: the weekends or whatever. They're talking to their uncle, you know,

1213
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 5: who's a Korean war vet, and you know he's telling

1214
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 5: them this and that.

1215
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 3: About it, and he's like, my toes. You don't understand

1216
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 3: about Korea Army and my toes. You're like, oh, you're like, damn,

1217
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 3: sorry war vets, but no, no, I love you Korea.

1218
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 3: You know, if you're out there, think you call me,

1219
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 3: hit me up and drop me an email. Let's get

1220
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 3: you on the show Korea. If you're out there, hit

1221
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 3: me up. I'm down to interview you. But I would

1222
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 3: say that I forgot, Well, I didn't forget. I just

1223
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 3: realized that you're also a recruiter, that you had done

1224
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 3: that and warn that hat and so I just like passive.

1225
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 3: I just want them to come out and have a

1226
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 3: good time. They can drive their GUV car with their

1227
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 3: GOV plate, I'll know who they are. But you know,

1228
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 3: these guys out there, they're young kids who are emulating

1229
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 3: the best, which is like a green or a Navy Seal,

1230
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 3: our number one export. Okay, let me put it this way.

1231
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 3: In other countries like Japan, Airsoft is huge and they

1232
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 3: want to dress up like the best. And the request

1233
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 3: is all the time, do you have any Navy Seal

1234
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 3: or Green Beret load outs? That's what I hear. And

1235
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 3: that's because that's our number one export. It's the best.

1236
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 3: That's the number one thing that the America has. The

1237
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 3: number one best thing we have is our military with

1238
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 3: its machine and it's exporting it. We send it all

1239
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 3: over the world. So here they are wanting to be

1240
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 3: Navy Seals and Green Berets. So I'm not mad at

1241
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 3: the young kid who's dressed like that. It's the guy

1242
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 3: that's trying to get on a base using that image

1243
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 3: to try to say he is something to gain ill things. Okay,

1244
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 3: that's where I have this stolen valor situation. It's it's

1245
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 3: not a kid. Kobe Bryant would not walk up to

1246
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 3: the basketball court and say take my shoes and my

1247
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 3: jersey off, little kid. You're not Kobe. He would not

1248
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 3: do that. He'd be like, oh, hey, here's a headband,

1249
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 3: and here's some sweats, and here's this. You're wearing my gear.

1250
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 3: You know. So these guys that are in this world,

1251
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 3: you guys, they don't have a problem with the youth

1252
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 3: wearing like, you know, a s Navy seal trying it

1253
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 3: on their shoulder because they want to be one. They're like,

1254
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 3: just take that step, go for it, try it. But

1255
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 3: then you get the kids in airsoft that have asthma,

1256
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 3: that can never join, that never have the option to,

1257
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 3: and so here they are getting to fight alongside of

1258
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 3: someone like Sean Okay who has been in at a

1259
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 3: sergeant level, and now they're like, wow, I'm actually like

1260
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 3: shoulder to shoulder with this dude and he's tossing me

1261
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 3: a grenade. You know that's something that they would never

1262
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 3: ever have gotten that experience of doing. That's me. I'm

1263
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 3: just letting you know. I love a happiness, I love

1264
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 3: my AK, I love redwood forest trees and my military,

1265
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm cool. If they just want to

1266
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 3: be free and freedom of choice for yourself, you can

1267
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 3: tattoo yourself, but just don't tattoo me with your tattoo.

1268
00:59:54,120 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 3: It's it. Remember the AK. Well, I know I've had

1269
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 3: you on for a little over an hour and we're

1270
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 3: just talking as a casual conversation, and I want my

1271
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 3: listener to know out there that you can just talk

1272
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 3: to somebody, like he said, go on base. If you

1273
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 3: have a question, ask somebody who's in. You don't have

1274
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 3: to ask your recruiter. Ask somebody else who's in. Say hey,

1275
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 3: what do you think you're in the Navy? I'm thinking

1276
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 3: about going army? Why'd you go Navy? You know what

1277
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 3: I find is that a lot of people join the

1278
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 3: Air Force after seeing a Navy commercial of the ocean

1279
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 3: washing away the sand footprints of the Navy seals that

1280
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 3: are sneaking. But then They're like, where's that at And

1281
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, but you joined the Air Force. I'm like,

1282
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 3: come play some airsoft, come here, come on. But at

1283
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 3: the end of the day, you know, if you want

1284
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 3: the Navy Seal, you gotta go Navy Seal. If you

1285
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 3: want infantry, you gotta go infantry. You got to do that.

1286
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I used to even I bring in the folks

1287
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 4: that were so much that we had no choice but

1288
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 4: to put them out, you know, chatter.

1289
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 5: Them out or whatever. They've been in so much trouble,

1290
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 5: so many brog bringing in that.

1291
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 4: All the time, and you know love them, know like Herry,

1292
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Speaker 4: well you know them after you know what they're trying

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Speaker 4: to figure out what their plans were, or someone didn't

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01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 4: didn't want to have anything to do with it because they.

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Speaker 5: Were so you know, upset about you know, being put out.

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Speaker 5: But then then what others they would listen, and you

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Speaker 5: know I would tell them, I said, you know, when

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Speaker 5: you go out there and.

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Speaker 4: You can still be a recruit where the army even

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Speaker 4: though you know it wasn't for you or you got

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Speaker 4: so much trouble.

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Speaker 5: Maybe if you show up together. But you know, if

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Speaker 5: your cousin Johnny comes up to you you know, and

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01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 5: it says, you know, what do you think.

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Speaker 4: About me joining the army? I mean, don't you know,

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01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 4: don't don't project your experiences you know on him. Let

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Speaker 4: him know, hey, you know it wasn't for me. You know,

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01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 4: if he knows or you don't have to tell him,

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01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 4: you know, tell him, tell him the truth about you know,

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Speaker 4: the military, you know, the goods them the bad, because

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Speaker 4: people need to know.

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Speaker 5: Don't be so you know negative that you go out

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01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 5: and just bad amount of its nervous all the time.

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Speaker 5: That would just you know, a piece of advice that

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Speaker 5: I did to.

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Speaker 4: Usen because this might be something that really works out

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01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:55,439
Speaker 4: for a friend of yours or relatives or something.

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01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 5: This might be something that they need or that they

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Speaker 5: want or they would do well. That just because you

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01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 5: didn't doesn't mean that, you know, just for you, doesn't

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01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 5: mean you know, not for somebody else.

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Speaker 3: So you know, and also to the parent out there

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Speaker 3: that I know this exists because I hear. I know

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Speaker 3: this right because I deal with all these younger kids

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01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 3: sixteen seventeen's and the parents put them on an adderall

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01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 3: or on a other style of like you know, ady

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01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 3: D style pill that just prevents them from being able

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Speaker 3: because they want to go. These kids are like seventeen

1329
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 3: and they're just like chomping at the bit to get in.

1330
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 3: They got all their gear and the parent probably knows, oh,

1331
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna lose little Billy, right, So I just am

1332
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 3: like Anyways, there's only so much a waiver can do.

1333
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 3: But go talk to a career professional for our United

1334
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Speaker 3: States military. If you're listening, right, and you heard it

1335
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 3: here from from myself and from Sean and from Charles,

1336
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 3: you know, give it a shot. If it's something in

1337
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 3: your in your thought process, right, you never know until

1338
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 3: you try. Boy. I mean again, I've had you for

1339
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 3: a long time and I can always have you back.

1340
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 3: You guys are always welcome to come back. And this

1341
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 3: isn't like the last time we can have a conversation.

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01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 3: We can even get more depth about the that you're right,

1343
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 3: and that you're an author and that you have all

1344
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 3: these things right, don't you have books that you've written.

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01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 5: I've got some stuff that I'm working on and uh

1346
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 5: and one of the military stuff that that you know

1347
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 5: I did. But yeah, Matt mcne and Chalmer, you know,

1348
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 5: bounce around these ideas.

1349
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 3: I got.

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Speaker 4: The latest one is to just the stories of stupidity

1351
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 4: from you know, the military and meet him.

1352
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 3: Both got plenty of let's put that in our book club.

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01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 5: Stories.

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01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, please please please everybody.

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01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: I think people that have never and this is the

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01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: idea that is, like he said, we meet him and

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01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: I bounced around, and I bounced around with my best

1358
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: friend from the army when we first got in. You know,

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01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 1: I was only in a year or two when we

1360
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: started bouncing this idea round because we saw it already.

1361
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: People that don't really have any affiliation with the military,

1362
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: they think typically one of two things. They think, like

1363
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: you said, earlier, military people are like you guys were

1364
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: talking about earlier. Life in the military is just so

1365
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: completely structured and it's like a jail where you know,

1366
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: there's no fun, you know, no family life.

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Speaker 5: None of that.

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Speaker 1: But the other side of that, it's people think that

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01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: they're everybody in the military is very squared away. They

1370
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: all have you know that SAIDs on their shoulders and

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01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: there's never any problems. And you know, my experience with

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Speaker 1: the people that I was really close with, and a

1373
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: lot of his experience was you know, it's a complete opposite.

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Speaker 5: You know a lot of people a lot of veterans

1375
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 5: could attest that most people.

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Speaker 1: Of the military are you know, they're kind of maniacs

1377
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: in sent and but that's you know, it takes that

1378
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: sort of person to be I don't know, well adapted.

1379
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 5: To the right word, but too you know, the job. Yeah,

1380
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 5: to do the job, to thrive in that lifestyle. And uh,

1381
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 5: what that kind of equates to is sort of what

1382
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 5: that ends up with is, like you said, some some

1383
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 5: stories of stupidity, and that's to me, that's you know,

1384
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 5: the stuff.

1385
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: That will that will live forever in my memories is

1386
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 1: the it's funny stories with with your with your buddies

1387
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: and you're.

1388
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 3: You know, I was once told we don't always need

1389
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 3: the boy scouts on the team rat. He's like, someone

1390
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 3: has to kill grandma still car and complete objective. And

1391
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, yeah, you're right. Huh, someone does

1392
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 3: have to kill Grandma still the car and complete the objective.

1393
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 3: So okay, I'm just that's Look, it's crazy. I loved

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01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 3: having you guys on the show.

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Speaker 4: Right.

1396
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 3: Soft rep is a welcome platform for you to come

1397
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 3: out here anytime and just have a nice conversation and

1398
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 3: we can just I hope you guys have had a

1399
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 3: great time and enjoyed the fireplace. That's real. It's not

1400
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 3: a green screen, you know, Yeah, it's real. I'm in Utah, baby,

1401
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 3: that's a nice rock wall and everything. I'm like, I

1402
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 3: got a background.

1403
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 5: Well down in the sixties.

1404
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 3: It just snowed in high elevations here and you'd snowbird

1405
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 3: Alta and Brighton just got six inches of snow. I

1406
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 3: ride at Brighton is really just lead throughout this winter year.

1407
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 3: So in thet you're lucky to get. We're lucky to

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01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 3: do this podcast now because ten am. Any other day

1409
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 3: during the winter, I'm up on the mountain, so it's

1410
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 3: usually a night shoot. I'm like seven o'clock at night.

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Speaker 3: Does that work for you? All right, well, listen, I

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01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 3: just want to say thank you on behalf of Charles

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01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 3: and Sean Sasser, both awesome veterans of our United States

1414
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 3: Army and military and get human beings that are trying

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01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 3: to do the right thing in life. And my name

1416
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 3: is Rad as your host for soft Rep. I want

1417
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 3: to remind you go check out our merch go check

1418
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 3: out the book club which is soft rep dot com

1419
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 3: book hyphen Club, and just enlist. And I want to

1420
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 3: say shout out to Brandon Webb, to Anton and to

1421
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 3: Mark and everybody on the back end that always make

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01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 3: the show what it is. I really appreciate it, and

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01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 3: I'm truly blessed to be here so on behalf of

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Speaker 3: my two guests. I just want to say thank you

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Speaker 3: and peace.

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