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Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a

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Speaker 1: See when you was over sleeping for that pro day,

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Speaker 1: you was hearing this song in your head, and you

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Speaker 1: was sleeping, and you was looking at all them catches

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Speaker 1: you was making in the post. Let's just visit it

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Speaker 1: right now. You was a longsucker too, Bro. You was

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Speaker 1: like making it look easy.

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Speaker 2: Number four.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Forget that that ot they're acing them doub God Lee Foe.

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Speaker 2: Y'all had some goons on that squad.

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Speaker 1: Bro, like we did Big row Beard shots out the

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Speaker 1: big Roebart Smith, JP Peasy one of the dopest athletes ever.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: I saw Julian Peterson this weekend. Man, he came to

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Speaker 4: He came to the Michigan State game. Yeah, he moved

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Speaker 4: back to Maryland. That's doing good.

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Speaker 2: What a good dude, man, what good man?

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Speaker 1: Love me some Julian Peterson man. Yeah, them Spartans, them

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Speaker 1: them Spartans was clean. I could have played with them Spartans. Now,

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie to Yeah, I could. I could

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Speaker 1: have been on that team.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: Hey, y'all got down. Sorry canoe anyway.

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Speaker 1: Uh, this is two pros and a cup of Joe.

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Speaker 1: Happy Friday to everybody out there. That's Plexico Burds. If

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Speaker 1: you didn't know, we was like reliving some some some

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Speaker 1: glory days right there.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. And you know what.

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Speaker 1: We're going to continue to talk some football. Uh, but

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Speaker 1: before we get there, let's let's let's handle some business.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Jonas and Brady have taken the week off. They

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Speaker 2: needed some time, some some R and R, and so.

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Speaker 1: We've decided to pick up the slack and handle business

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Speaker 2: And we're at Friday.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 1: We got that out of the way. And if you

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Speaker 1: Home Depot. And what we didn't do in the first

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Speaker 1: hour that we always do is let people know this.

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Speaker 2: It's a football Friday. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a football Friday. Yeahday, it's a

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Speaker 1: football Friday. Come on, get pumped up. Yeah, get pumped up.

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Speaker 1: It's a football Friday. It's a football Friday. It's Friday,

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Speaker 1: and we're talking a little bit of football. It's a

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Speaker 1: football Friday, Football Friday, Football Fridriday Friday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, okay, let's do it for Eddie. Let's

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Speaker 1: do it for Addy. Eddie was in a Eddie was

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Speaker 1: at Nothing studio the other day.

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Speaker 4: Friday night is.

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Speaker 1: A football Friday, Football Friday.

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Speaker 2: Rock them, suck them, catch it. Yeah you can feel

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Speaker 2: it a ride. Now we got that out of the way.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of it being a football Friday, mister stretch

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Speaker 1: Armstrong gret Byrne, the ad of Alabama, says maybe the

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Speaker 1: NCAA should do away with conference championship games, And well,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. I like the conference

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Speaker 1: championship game. What I don't love is that you can

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Speaker 1: actually have someone win the national title and not even

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Speaker 1: be the best team out of their their conference. They

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Speaker 1: might have not even won their conference championship. That confuses

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Speaker 2: What's your take on it?

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Speaker 1: Do you think there should be child conference championships or

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Speaker 1: is it just kind of just is it even productive

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm kind of on the fence with it. What

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Speaker 4: he said that about the conference championship games, because because

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Speaker 4: if you remember when we were in the Big Ten,

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Speaker 4: The Big Ten did not? And you know, you're starting

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Speaker 4: to see some of these, uh you know, some of

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Speaker 4: now that the college football playoffs has been expanded to

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Speaker 4: twelve games. What I didn't understand was how the University

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Speaker 4: that that I didn't understand. And U and in another

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Speaker 4: but Miami didn't even make it to their own conference championship.

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Speaker 2: Game, didn't even make it into the game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but they get into the college football playoffs.

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Speaker 2: And make it to the championship.

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Speaker 4: They make it to the national championship. That that blowed me.

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Speaker 4: Nobody has yet to explain to me how that occurred.

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Speaker 4: If you're not leaving your conference champion, but you make

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Speaker 4: it to the college football playoffs and on the on

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Speaker 4: the on the Notre Dame side, I know Brady would

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Speaker 4: agree with this one hundred percent. They don't have a

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Speaker 4: championship game, but they get pitalized because they're not they

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Speaker 4: I don't understand that part of it. But know for

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Speaker 4: SEC East and the West, they're so competitive that for

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Speaker 4: winning the SEC helps some of those teams get into

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Speaker 4: the college football playoffs. So I don't I don't understand it.

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Speaker 4: But if you're gonna take the conference championship away, take

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Speaker 4: it from away from every conference, or have every conference

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Speaker 4: playing a conference football game. But I'm just on the

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Speaker 4: fence about it. But that whole Duke Virginia thing in

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Speaker 4: to explain that to me how that occurred. But I

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Speaker 4: kind of agree with them. I kind of don't. And

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Speaker 4: helps some teams that that are on the fence. Uh

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Speaker 4: you know, if you have a you know, a tie

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Speaker 4: win that conference, that propels them into the College football playoffs.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I'm in the mixed bags of feelings

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Speaker 1: I just I think that that's you make some good points,

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Speaker 1: right And just looking at conference championships, I would like

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Speaker 2: And how important is that?

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Speaker 1: I feel like for us who had played in it,

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Speaker 1: I think there's something too. I think there's some pageantry

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Speaker 1: things first. Like it's almost like this is the first

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Speaker 1: You know, if I played the ten, we won the ten.

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Speaker 1: And then you go into the playoffs and all you know,

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Speaker 1: all bets are off. It's a whole new season and

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Speaker 1: it's a win or go home tournament that you're a

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Speaker 1: part of, you know, I don't.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I felt like this year we saw the best team win,

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Speaker 1: and we saw the best team win the national title.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know that that always plays out. Like,

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Speaker 1: they and listen, Indiana had their moments. They could have

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Speaker 4: I didn't you know.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Miami got hot at the right time,

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Speaker 4: I just don't I don't I found so.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people that got to figure

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but how are you a nine and two football

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Speaker 2: What is that about?

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Speaker 1: No? I think the bigger issue here, and maybe it's

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Speaker 1: just me, I think the bigger issue here is how

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: That one is strange to me because I've I've always

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Speaker 1: automatically qualify now if you lose it. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how that works, but those are the best, right correct?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they run the feed.

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Speaker 1: I just you know, it's strange to me because if

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Speaker 1: you're if you're saying, okay, that the power for conferences.

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Speaker 1: If you have two teams and in the conference championship,

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Speaker 4: That the conference has the offer. Yes, and one thing,

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Speaker 4: and one thing I do agree with if two teams

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Speaker 4: that are playing in the conference championship, the team that loses,

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Speaker 4: they should not be penalized for you for losing the

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Speaker 4: championship game.

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Speaker 2: And they got there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they shouldn't drop down because they are in the

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Speaker 4: That is I do agree with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't see how that If those are

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Speaker 1: the two teams that are playing for the conference crown,

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Speaker 1: then that means that is those are the two teams,

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Speaker 1: the best two teams you have the offer to the

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Speaker 1: college football playoff. I don't understand how that is. Isn't

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Speaker 1: And as you mentioned, they are thinking about working to expand.

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Speaker 2: The playoff field.

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Speaker 1: If that, if that, I feel, continues to grow even

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Speaker 1: Like to me, how does conference championships define what you

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Speaker 1: Uh. Expansion internationally Clark Hunt, Patty, give me in Plexico

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Speaker 2: And what that that expansion represents, you're.

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Speaker 1: Trying to And we heard the owner of Ersa, We

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Speaker 1: heard the owner of the Indianapolis Colts put it out there, like, look,

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Speaker 1: nobody cares about preseason. You know, was it heard I

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Speaker 1: said that she said we need preseason. I believe I

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Speaker 1: think she said we need preseason. But I mean it's

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Speaker 1: a low quality product, right, Like if you're looking at

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Speaker 1: replacing low quality inventory, that's preseason games, preseason versus exhibitions.

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Speaker 1: Like people do not get into football the way they

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Speaker 1: get into it until you start saying preseason is coming

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Speaker 1: to an end. They just don't take it as seriously

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Speaker 1: as the regular seasons. And why would you. They don't matter,

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Speaker 1: they don't count, they don't matter. So to have four

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Speaker 1: preseason games, I get. You want to get guys ready

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Speaker 1: for season. You want to prepare them, and you want

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Speaker 1: to get guys opportunity to be able to make the team.

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Speaker 2: Get some film. I get off. But but you don't

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Speaker 2: need four preseason games. You don't need problems. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: So so it start off four, then you get to three.

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Speaker 2: You don't need three. You don't need three preseason games.

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Speaker 2: So how you how your question?

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Speaker 4: That will come? But how are you going to evaluate

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Speaker 4: guys with out playing in the preseason?

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Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta evaluate guys in the off season.

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Speaker 1: You gotta evaluate.

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Speaker 4: That's not enough, That's not it.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna have to be. It's gonna have to be.

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Speaker 4: And real football situations to totally evaluate a player. You

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Speaker 4: can't evaluate. You're not gonna get with hamlets and jerseys on.

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Speaker 1: You can't keep expanding the season and and have or

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Speaker 1: expanding the season regular season and and still have that

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Speaker 1: many preseason games.

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Speaker 2: Can't do it. So so while I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, look at it this way, you don't get that.

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Speaker 1: You don't get that luxury in college. You don't get

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Speaker 1: the luxury of preseason to evaluate talent, a preseason to

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Speaker 1: get prepared for the regular season.

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Speaker 2: I mean, some would say that's plans to playing.

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Speaker 4: Outside of college, but last time'm not checking. In college,

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Speaker 4: they don't cut anybody. Oh they cut guys now.

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Speaker 2: Bro. They cutting guys now, well they are cutting.

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Speaker 4: Out When I was in college, if you came out

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Speaker 4: of the wall field, if you walked on everybody and

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Speaker 4: made the team.

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Speaker 1: Man, but you're also not paying you're also not paying them.

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Speaker 1: You weren't paying them back then, and you're carrying like

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Speaker 1: one hundred and five players on a on a college

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Speaker 1: football roster. So to me again, the point I'm making

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Speaker 1: is you don't have a preseason in college like you

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Speaker 1: can evaluate talent and not need a preseason.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you can.

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Speaker 4: You could do it.

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Speaker 1: I would do a way. Hey, let's get right to it.

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Speaker 1: Let's get right to it. You don't even need a preseason,

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Speaker 1: just feel you don't even need. You get springball, you

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Speaker 1: get springball, you get ot as, you get many camps,

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Speaker 1: you get training camp.

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Speaker 2: Let's get the work.

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Speaker 4: Let's get the work. You're gonna miss out on some

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Speaker 4: really good players, if you know, if you don't get

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Speaker 4: a chance to evaluate them on playing the game of

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Speaker 4: football in real situations, tackling uh and and and real

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Speaker 4: and real speed. I just don't believe that you can

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Speaker 4: evaluate guys and training camp and it's just sent them

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Speaker 4: on their way when you're not even tackling to the ground,

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Speaker 4: and it's not a uh physical physical form of football

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Speaker 4: the way that it needs to be played.

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Speaker 1: I just don't how many contracts, how many contracts are

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Speaker 1: being awarded in training camp and in preseasons. How many

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Speaker 1: contracts I see extensions get done based off of guys

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Speaker 1: that have performed in prior seasons and they're trying to

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Speaker 1: get their extensions done and they hadn't Adam done yet.

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Speaker 1: But to me, a preseason is not making or breaking

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Speaker 1: somebody's career. In fact, yes it is. It's a numbers

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Speaker 1: game several times. No way, tell me, tell me who.

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Speaker 4: I've been around guys. I played in this league for

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Speaker 4: twelve years, and there's a difference between certain players when

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Speaker 4: they're in helmets and jerseys and when they're in full

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Speaker 4: paths because because you can look at a guy you

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Speaker 4: know I'm telling the truth, and be like, oh, that

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Speaker 4: guy's out of here. No, you're right.

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Speaker 1: There are gamers versus practice players one hundred percent. But

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying to you is, if you've made it

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Speaker 1: to a training camp, your film has gotten you on

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Speaker 1: that team. So whether that film is you being a

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Speaker 1: rookie from college, your film has gotten you on that team.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's your film from where you played on another

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Speaker 1: team in the league, Your film has gotten you on

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Speaker 1: that Your film is the reason why you're there in

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Speaker 1: that training can otherwise your scouting department isn't doing what

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Speaker 1: they're supposed to do. So they already had book on

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Speaker 1: who you are. They already had book on who you are.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be honest with you. You've also seen

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Speaker 1: this plexico burse where a guy in training. Can I remember, dude, Clint,

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Speaker 1: what's his name, Clint Sessions, Clinton, Clint Sessions. He was

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Speaker 1: he was out that. The kid was a linebacker out

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Speaker 1: of Tennessee. I'll never forget this because I could not.

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Speaker 2: I was blown away by how good he was. We're

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Speaker 2: in Carlisle.

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Speaker 1: He's he I mean, the kid is undersized, but hit

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Speaker 1: you harder than anybody else that was out there. The kid,

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Speaker 1: the kid was was explosive and was a playmaker.

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Speaker 2: And I mean he made.

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Speaker 1: Plays in practice, and he made plays in the preseason games.

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Speaker 1: Cut cut gone numbers, game numbers game. How many times

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Speaker 1: does a guy that better than the guys that that

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Speaker 1: there's a guy that's on the roster that's better than

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Speaker 1: the guy that gets released every time every year there's

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Speaker 1: a guy that's better on the roster and the guy

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Speaker 1: gets cut that's better.

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Speaker 2: Because it's a numbers game.

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Speaker 1: So to me, if we're being real, we calling a

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Speaker 1: spade a spade, you're not really you're not really evaluating

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Speaker 1: for the best players anyways, yours. It's where your money

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Speaker 1: is gone, It's where you've put your money, and those

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Speaker 1: are going to be most likely the people that are

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Speaker 1: on the roster of.

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Speaker 2: Your team going into the regular season. So, yeah, you

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Speaker 2: might be evaluating talent.

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Speaker 1: There may be every once in a while that one

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Speaker 1: outlier that he actually performed well enough and circumstances found

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Speaker 1: the way.

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Speaker 2: For that that guy to end up playing on a team.

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Speaker 1: But for the most part, a preseason training camp, those

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Speaker 1: those preseason games, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, that is not

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Speaker 1: going to be the determining factor of what your roster

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Speaker 1: is going to be, because you already have a wrong

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Speaker 1: idea of what your roster is going to be. If

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Speaker 1: they're being honest, you're already you already know what your

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Speaker 1: team is going to be.

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Speaker 4: So why do we like three games?

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Speaker 2: Was that four games?

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Speaker 1: Like man do one preseason game in fact, if it's me,

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Speaker 1: I say, do away with.

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Speaker 2: All preseason games. Get get rid of all of them.

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Speaker 2: Let's get right to it.

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Speaker 4: Just just walk on the football fielding open and then

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Speaker 4: just get.

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Speaker 1: You got training camp. You got like bruh, it's your job.

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Speaker 1: So you're doing this all year round. Like you have

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Speaker 1: off season training right now.

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Speaker 2: Then you'll have you'll have OTAs.

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Speaker 1: Organized team workouts. And then the draft comes, you get

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Speaker 1: the new guys, and then you have your your mini camps.

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Speaker 1: You get your mini camp, then you come in, you

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Speaker 1: do your training camp. You're you're I mean, that's enough,

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Speaker 1: that's enough. Let's get right to it. Hell, we expanded,

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Speaker 1: we're expanding the amount of games, and we're expanding the

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Speaker 1: marketplace to build the brand of the Shield globally. Get

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Speaker 1: get away from the preseason games. Man, raise the salary cap,

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Speaker 1: pay these guys more, have larger rosters, have larger rosters,

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Speaker 1: and just get the work. Like that's it, call it

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Speaker 1: to day, get the work. That's my call on it.

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Speaker 1: Plex that's how I see it, that's how I feel

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Speaker 1: about it, and that's.

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Speaker 2: My final work.

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Speaker 1: Get rid of the preseason games and let's go from

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Speaker 1: there out d Anyways, Clark Hunt. Yeah, just worry about

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Speaker 1: that stadium, man. You know where's that gonna be. Is

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Speaker 1: gonna be in Canas? Where it's gonna be? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Listen, we're gonna take a quick break on the other

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Speaker 1: side of the break.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's I think.

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Speaker 1: He's a legend. I think we'll call him a legend.

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Speaker 1: I think he had an outstanding career. He's calling it quitch.

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Speaker 1: to talk about I believe he's a legend.

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Speaker 2: It's worth talking about him retiring, so I'll say I'll

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back into the show, and there's Two

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Speaker 1: Pros and a Cup of Joe.

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Speaker 2: Y'all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Plexico Burst.

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Speaker 2: I'm LeVar Arrington, and it's been a good show so far,

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Speaker 2: at least I hope so.

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Speaker 1: And we're wrapping up this last segment of the show

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Speaker 1: talking about Patty. You think he's a legend, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: go with We're gonna go with legends.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're gonna go with legend.

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Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmour, after an illustrious career, is calling it quits.

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Speaker 1: I felt like he had the potential to be, like,

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Speaker 1: like up there, one of the greatest ever. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe it didn't pan out that way. Plex

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I'm being a little hard on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thank you, I thank you all. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you look at what he accomplished in his accolades, man

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Speaker 4: timp temp picking the draft in twenty twelve. You put

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Speaker 4: together thirteen seasons in his league career, NFL Defensive Player

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Speaker 4: of the Year. I think from first first team, All

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Speaker 4: Pro and two Super Bowls. I mean that that is

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Speaker 4: an resume.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good that's a strong resume.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, five years old, thirteen years thirty five years old

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Speaker 4: is old.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: I was in the league when I was thirty six,

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Speaker 4: and I was it's time for me to take my

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Speaker 4: ass home, right, you know. You know what solidified for me.

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Speaker 4: One day, I'm sitting on the training table getting my

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Speaker 4: ankles tape and these cat these rookies come into the

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Speaker 4: training room and they're sitting there, you know, they're arguing

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Speaker 4: about what year they were born in. And the dude

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00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 4: is like, yo, I was born in nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 4: And I said to myself, I was like, yeah, it's

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00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 4: time to go. And I was born in what seventy seven?

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00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 4: Here I'm in my thirteenth year in the league, and

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Speaker 4: I'm just like, and I was thirty six at the time.

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Speaker 4: Football is not the same when you're thirty five. Year

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Speaker 4: thirty six definitely not everything.

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Speaker 2: I didn't make it that. I didn't make it that far.

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00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 4: So I feel it's paying thirty five.

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Speaker 1: It's just at that position too, at the cornerback position.

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Speaker 4: It's not funny.

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00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: That's pretty that's pretty tough.

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00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: It played for the Bills, obviously, built a tremendous reputation

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00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: plan for the Bills. Then he ended up going to

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Speaker 1: New England, did well there, had had a very productive

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00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: career there, and then he just started traveling around quite

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00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: a bit. Ends up in Carolina for a year, ends

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00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: up in Indie, Indianapolis for a year, ends up in

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00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: Dallas for a year, and then ends up in Minnesota.

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00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: But during the course of all that you mentioned, you

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00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: got it. Got a Super Bowl championship, was the defensive

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00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: player of the year. Two time All Pro, first team

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Speaker 1: All Pro, which is big. That's a big time. If

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00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: you could get first team All Pro ever period, at

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Speaker 1: any point in.

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Speaker 2: Your career, you got it two times. I have time

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00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: Pro Bowler. He was a co leader in interceptions.

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Speaker 1: Uh, He's on the two thousand, all twenty Tens team

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Speaker 1: for New England, All Dynasty team for New England, and

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00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: so yeah, he did have Yeah, yeah, we'll call it.

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Speaker 1: We'll call it a legendary career.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And he's now calling it quits. So shouts out to

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00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmour.

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00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: For for that.

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00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: For the career and wish him well and all his

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Speaker 1: endeavors Beyond that I mentioned he finished off with the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Vikings real quick because we do have a little bit

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Speaker 1: of time, and I wanted to kind of quickly talk

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Speaker 1: about you know, looking at the Minnesota Vikings and where

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00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: they're at currently, and you know, you get a guy

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00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: like Stephan Gilmour, who who's not with the team anymore.

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00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: But this this there's been the long lasting debate about

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00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: what they're going to do at the quarterback's position this

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Speaker 1: upcoming year, and just super quickly, I just wonder, like,

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Speaker 1: are they going to be Do you have any high

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00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 1: expectations for this year's Minnesota Vikings team.

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00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: That's that's what it need. You know. It led me

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00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: to the question.

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00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: Of how are you viewing this Minnesota Vikings football.

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00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 4: I believe they're going to be better and not because

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00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 4: of J. J. McCarthy, but because of Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 4: Ky Yeah, Kyler Murray. I believe they're going to be

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00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 4: a better It's not a rap. It's not a rap.

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Speaker 4: But if anybody can fix Kyler Murray, it would be

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Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connor. I mean, I know Kay very very well.

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00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 4: It's very very intelligent, one of the best young minds

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Speaker 4: in all of football. If anybody can put together UH

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00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 4: an offensive scheme for a player, it will be Ko.

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Speaker 4: And I don't believe that J. J. McCarthy is the

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00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 4: answer right right now, but if.

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Speaker 1: He does, he's right now, he ain't never going to

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Speaker 1: be the answer. If he's not going to be, If

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Speaker 1: he doesn't start this season, I believe the writing is

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Speaker 1: on the wall for him. And it's going to all

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Speaker 1: go back to why you got rid of Sam Donald,

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Speaker 1: a proven quarterback in that offense. I understand that you

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Speaker 1: drafted him with the Tiff pick to go to Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: but that is going to be one of the decisions

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Speaker 1: that that franchise regrets for a very long time, is

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Speaker 1: send it away Sam Donald and UH putting all your

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00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: eggs in a basket with JJ McCarthy, if Jordan Aison

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Speaker 1: can stay sound insane and they can get Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: on the same page with with Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 2: You know they got cook in the backfield. Excuse me,

744
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: not cook.

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Speaker 1: They they well they don't have Aaron Jones either, do

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00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: that or did they have Aaron Zones? Anyway, I think

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00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: they got a pretty good roster. We'll see how they

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Speaker 1: it pans out, but our three is coming at you.

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Speaker 2: Fuck