1 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks so 2 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: much for joining us. We're so excited to be back. 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: And how are you today, Kathy? 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 2: You know I'm fabulous, except one twelfth of twenty twenty 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: six is almost here. Like the month has gone so quickly. 6 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Don't What do I think? The years are going so 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: quickly as we get older, the faster it goes. 8 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: You and I've had this conversation. I used to say that, 9 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 2: you know, I hate saying the spring, but ever since 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: my husband died, time has crawled. So I guess it's 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: a good thing that in twenty twenty six the month 12 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 2: is going back quickly. Maybe that means I'm, you know, 13 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: getting back more to normal or whatever. But you know, 14 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: January's been a really funny month. It's been crazy weather. 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 2: I've been home a whole lot more this month than 16 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: I have been in recent months, So I don't know, 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: it's just been It's been a good month, though. What 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 2: about you? 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: It is it's speeding, it's flying. I think it races 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,199 Speaker 1: to my birthday and then it slows. It's the big 21 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: one coming, Kathy. It's the big one, the City nine 22 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: that is huge. 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: No, No, No, sixteen seventy. 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: Why I'm not doing seventy. I'm just saying my sixty 25 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: ninth is one. We're going to celebrate the big one. 26 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 2: Okay, the big one is coming next year. We're starting over. 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: It's not a big one. So when Susan had start 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: seventieth birthday next year, we're just going to say, yeah, 29 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: that's just another day. 30 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to be in Europe somewhere, I hope, 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: all right, filming something. 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: I would love it. All right, Well, while we're daydreaming 33 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 2: about birthdays in Europe today, we're going to do things 34 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: a little bit differently. We're going to try a segment 35 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: called Golden Wisdom where we talk out some big questions 36 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: and then just share our thoughts. And I'm going to 37 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: start us off. Okay, all right, why do you think 38 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: dating is so hard for everyone? Right now? 39 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: I think I know the answer. 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: Well, give it to me. 41 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: Because they're swiping left, they're swiping right, and everybody thinks 42 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: there's something better. It's it's insane and I have been 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: not been on them in quite some time. But I'm 44 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: honestly God, I fell into that category myself at one 45 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: time when I was doing so much well let's see 46 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: what else. But maybe it's crazy. 47 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: I can't disagree. Yeah, I can't disagree with you. I 48 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: think that there's so many options technology, internet dating apps. 49 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: It's just made it so easy to say, yeah, you know, 50 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: I think there should be a new like a new app. 51 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: I've been thinking about this the grass is Always Greener app. 52 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: So you swipe me like, yeah, the grass isn't greener. 53 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: I will, I will look at this one. I do 54 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: think though, that that's what's going on. There's just so 55 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: many options. It's the days of fixing people up or 56 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 2: meeting at a public place or a bar or it does, 57 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: but people rely so much on technology. I also think 58 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: right now people are so busy working, trying to make 59 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: ends meet. You know, people just don't have or make 60 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: the time as much. I think right now today, maybe 61 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: I'm just talking about myself. 62 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: Actually, I also agree about the technology what the world 63 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: was like when we grew up. But how about the 64 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: difference between kids or teenagers now versus when we were 65 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: kids or teenagers. 66 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: Well, it is day for me. Yeah, but you can't 67 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: have this conversation, Susan. Nobody can have a conversation about 68 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: kids and teens now versus you know, when when we 69 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: were kids and when we're well first and going to. 70 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: Have this conversation, Kap, you just said we're not I 71 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: think we're gone. 72 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: Well, you can have it without just one word introducing it, 73 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: and that is technology. That is the word. It has 74 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: changed everything about how you know, kids are on their 75 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: best friends are online. You know, they play all these 76 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: games online and they have friends online. Technology has changed 77 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: the way we think, the way we date, We order 78 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: our groceries online, we order our clothes online, the way 79 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 2: we have our friends. We learn online. 80 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: Yes, remember encyclopedias, like we were fortunate to have encyclopedias 81 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: our family, and I remember friends that didn't have to 82 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: come over to use ours do homework. Now you press 83 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: a button. 84 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: Right, so much literally information is at our fingertips, and 85 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: what I think is unfortunate. I live in a neighborhood 86 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: that's like a big well you've been here, it's a 87 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: big circle, right, And there's lots of kids in this neighborhood. 88 00:04:54,720 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: I rarely see kids outside playing I don't remember, and 89 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 2: there's tons of it because they're on their computers. Yes, 90 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: kids still do you know after school sports or gymnastics 91 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: and those kinds of things. But I just think once 92 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: we introduced technology, there's no going back. There is a 93 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: paradigm shift between what childhood was like for us and 94 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 2: what childhood is like for kids now. You know, as 95 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: you said, in schools they use computers. Now computers are everywhere. 96 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: There isn't one aspect of our life that doesn't involve technology. 97 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 2: You remember, wait, I got one, I got one? 98 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: What? 99 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: Oh, never mind, I was going to say sex. But 100 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 2: people use it online for that too. Now. 101 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: It wasn't too long ago. We did a podcast and 102 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: one of the people that wrote in the question that 103 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: her daughter did not want her to share her life 104 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: with her grandchildren, And this right here is proof, Like 105 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: it's so different. Wouldn't you tell them what it was 106 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: like for us. Yeah, you're so fortunate to have all 107 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: these things at your fingertips. We didn't grow up that way. 108 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: I know. I also think that kids, when when parents 109 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: are teaching their children whatever we're trying to teach them, 110 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: kids just hop on the computer and they can find 111 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: somebody who thinks about it differently, as if that's you know, proof, 112 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 2: that's verifiable proof. I think one of the biggest issues 113 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: for kids today, which is very unfortunate. The Internet, Instagram, TikTok, 114 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: all of them people. And I've said this to you before. 115 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: People always put out the fabulous lives they want other 116 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: people to see they have, yes, and so only the 117 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: good moment, so young kids, the bullying, think about it, 118 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: you know, all those aspects of the Internet, but also 119 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 2: the fact that kids look and they think they have 120 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: a terrible life because they're seeing companies, imaginary if you will, 121 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: imaginary lives out there. And so, you know, I think 122 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: that parents today, it's it's a tough. It's tough being 123 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: a parent because you really have to manage the technology. 124 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: Like I said, you can't have this conversation without talking 125 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: about technology. So okay, so here's let's move away from 126 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: technology because that's we you know. 127 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: Could be rude period. 128 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. Parents, get your kids off technology, get 129 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: them outside, pressure some of it, and give them a book, 130 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: go back to reading. That's my PSA for the day. Okay, 131 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: what let's talk about advice. What do you have to 132 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: say to parents whose kids are already obsessing over skincare 133 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: and anti aging at the age of twelve. You know, 134 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: it's never too soon start, Are you kidding me? 135 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: I think they should school them and tell them what 136 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: is necessary and keeping your skin protective, clean, sun and clean. 137 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: And some suffer with acne, some don't, but definitely school 138 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: them young how to take. 139 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: That anti aging? 140 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: Why not? The sun's going to aid you. Look at me. 141 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: I didn't use sunscreen until a few years ago. Well, no, 142 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: kids should know. 143 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: Well, no, no, no, I think this this is a 144 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: little bit different. This is success. If a kid saying, mom, 145 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: you know it's seventeen, I'm I'm my skin. Look it's 146 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: getting old. I need plastic surgery. I mean, well, it's 147 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: again slippery slope. Kids go online. You and I've talked 148 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 2: about this. How many skin products anti aging products they do? 149 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 2: They use a twenty year old to advertise for anti 150 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: aging and do you know I talked with someone who's 151 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: in that world, and I was told the reason they 152 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: use young people not you and. 153 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: Me, because they love good still. 154 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: It's because no, it was, yes, but because they can 155 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: get people on the bandwagon, really young, buying their producs 156 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: using it. Yeah, I should. 157 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: My daughter for christ my granddaughter Bella, who was thirteen 158 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: years old, had a specific eyn cream that she wanted 159 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: for Christmas. 160 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: And where did she hear about it. 161 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: I didn't ask her that, bet it's. 162 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: The internet or a friend and the friend heard it 163 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: from another friend. And I mean the marketing, Oh, the 164 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: marketing genius. It's unbelievable. But I don't like that kids 165 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: obsessed over that. I really don't know kids. I think 166 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: you were on the right track when you said teach 167 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: your children about you brushing teeth and washing their face 168 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 2: and anti hygiene. But that's higiing on that. 169 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: Yes, protecting yourself from the that's a big one. That's 170 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: the biggest one. 171 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: That was anti aging, Susan, it's for skin cancer. 172 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: Well, it's also for aging. You can't say it's not. 173 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: Well. I don't know about you, but I'm never going 174 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: to talk to my eight year old granddaughter about putting 175 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: sunscreen on for anti aging. I'm going to say to 176 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: protect eight ten, eleven, fifteen, eighteen. I'm going to say, Linley, 177 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: put skin sunscreen on so that you do not get 178 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: get harmful rais and get skin cancer. That's my answer. 179 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 2: It's all right about it. 180 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: Comes to fashion, how can you spot the difference between 181 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: a micro trend and a timeless style or trend? Can 182 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: I say you have actually has come a long way? 183 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: Can I can I say, miss Boston over here, miss 184 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: button down collared shirts, has come a long way. 185 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: I'm account of you, thank you. But here's the thing. 186 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: I don't know what a micro trend from a macro 187 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: trend is, but I can tell you there are things 188 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: that I buy that I know are going to be timeless. 189 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: And you know it too. 190 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: It's good. 191 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: Yes, it's classic, A good A good navy blue blazer 192 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: with gold buttons, a cashmere sweater, cashmere coats, a trench coat, 193 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: a kaki. I mean, there's certain pieces when you but 194 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: when you look, if you want to know what is mind. 195 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: How can I interrupt that she is got Boston blood 196 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: Because the trench coat, the navy blue blazer with the 197 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: gold buttons. 198 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: It's also I will always have them in my closet. 199 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: They're timeless. 200 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: I remember Kathy, you saying I said, no more skinny jeans. 201 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: No they're coming back. You said they're coming back. Now 202 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: we all wear big baggy jeans. 203 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: Skinny jeans are coming back. 204 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: They're really not. 205 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: Okay, just say no, I'm wearing my skinny jeans. But 206 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: here's the thing. A micro trend. Skinny jeans have been 207 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 2: in a long time. I think women now wear what 208 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: they want to wear. But a micro trend is something 209 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: that literally is zingos. So give me some examples of 210 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: micro trends. Because you are the fashioning. 211 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: Stage, I think that, well, no, that might not be 212 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: micro because they've been out more than a year, that 213 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: the really short crop tops and the low rise low 214 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: rise are coming back in again. Micro trend could be 215 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: a specific kind of a shoe, you know, something crazy 216 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: shoe that's here and gone and nobody wears it again. Yeah, 217 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: I mean I think run out and buy them. That's 218 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: the best part. 219 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 2: Well for you, it is, I see. I don't buy 220 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: micro trends because I, for example, I think a micro 221 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 2: trend is I think, are these really short roppers? Not 222 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 2: roppers because roppers have been around a long time, but 223 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: the ones where it's leaving very little to the imagination, 224 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 2: I don't think those are going to last. 225 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: Do you only for young girls? Young girls can wear 226 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: anything because we're young. We want to get a woman 227 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: our age that has a great fit body and she 228 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: puts that on, people are gonna talk. It's just not 229 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: age appropriate. 230 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 2: Okay, now we're getting into this. Do you think that Okay, 231 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 2: We're just gonna be honest with our listeners. Susan and 232 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: I were at an event recently, and Susan not on 233 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 2: a gorgeous uh white leather hotpants shorts and a match 234 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: hot pants. 235 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: There were shorts. 236 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: That's what we call hotpants. Excuse my excuse age, excuse 237 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: my micro trend where my age is showing. They were 238 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: they were very short. 239 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: They weren't very short. Okay, well to me they weren't. Sure. Well, 240 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: but that's like a mini dress to you if you 241 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: hold your arms to the side. Now, everybody listening, please 242 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: do a self check. I went to Catholic school and 243 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: we had to hold our hands to the side of 244 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: our uniform and it had to be hemmed no shorter 245 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: than our fingertips. Right. Well, I used to get in 246 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: trouble because my uniform was always short. 247 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: I mean, okay, okay, I'm sorry. I think really short 248 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: shorts where you better be. 249 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: Careful, day duke short shorts. 250 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: That's short's daisy dou Yeah, they're a little your butt 251 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: cheeks hang out. 252 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: Were not like that. 253 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: They were close anyway the hell they were. 254 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to put a picture up, I swear to you. 255 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead, it was very looking short. 256 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: But where I was going. Where I going with this 257 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: is I think a lot of this conversation has to 258 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 2: do with perspective, because for me, you took a lot 259 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: of heat and for wearing them, some people said you 260 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: look faby, some people said you should wear them. Do 261 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: you remember what I said, I wouldn't wear that. I've 262 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: got very long legs and I have good legs. I 263 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: wouldn't have worn that outfit for me when I was eighteen. 264 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: I don't think it's about age. It's about comfort, and 265 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: so for me, you feel comfortable in it exactly. It 266 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: has nothing to do with age. I wouldn't have worn 267 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: it at eighteen. So you know, I'm used, that's me. 268 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. 269 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: It's you are more conservative than right I am. 270 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: And so you know, I don't know spotting the difference. 271 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: I think a micro trend is when I might I 272 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: have an owl neck when I see him walking down 273 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: the street and I turned around and say, did you 274 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: see that? That's what a micro trend? 275 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: You remember? Caw next caw, next game? 276 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: I still have them? 277 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: Please don't please? 278 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: All right? What is something regarding menopause that you don't 279 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: think is spoken about enough, and this one. We could 280 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: do an episode of this, but. 281 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna need atause. I'm telling you that is something 282 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: not spoken about enough. Yeah, we talk today about menopause, 283 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: about every aspect of it. I think, what do you 284 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: think we don't talk about? 285 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: Well, you and I talk all about it, But I 286 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: think the question is in general that people in general. 287 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: Like tiring women for menopause, that that's yeah, well, I'll 288 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: just I'll start with one. 289 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: I think that, first of all, for me, menopause was easy. 290 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: And I've had this conversation. I don't know, I don't 291 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: know what a hat flash. 292 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: Is, so, but people don't want to hear that. Catherine 293 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: there are sweating. 294 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: Well, you know. But I think that what people don't 295 00:16:54,960 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: talk enough about is the specific of what it means 296 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: to go through menopause. You know, everything drives up, you 297 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: turn into a prune, but also what you can do 298 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 2: to make it better or what you shouldn't do. I 299 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: think people talk about it's like, you know, running up 300 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: to the edge of a cliff and you don't know 301 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: that there's a big fault. It's like you know that 302 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: cliff is coming. You know, women know menopause is coming 303 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: and then oh my god, I hit menopause and they 304 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 2: don't know what to do or what to think about 305 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: it because nobody prepared them for. 306 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: The And a lot of people just think, Okay, I'm 307 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: going to have hot flashes and I'm going to do this. 308 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: In this it happens to your brain as well. It's 309 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: your entire body, your brain. You think differently you go 310 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: through I don't want to call it a depression, but 311 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: there's some people that I've helped going through this to 312 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: get them back on tracks. There are things you can do. 313 00:17:55,640 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: There's there's hormone replacement, there's bioidentical hormone replacement. It but 314 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: the way you think is not the way you used 315 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: to think. 316 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: I think exactly. Maybe I haven't gone through menopause yet. 317 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: Do you don't remember? Like the latter of desire to 318 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: be with your husband sexually. A lot of women go 319 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 1: through that. I mean, my one of my best friends, 320 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 1: his wife, he goes God, I said, I'll talk to her. 321 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you though. 322 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 2: That's but that proves my point that women maybe for 323 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: some women, they have decreased sexual desire. Some women have 324 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: you know, crazy outbursts some people get depressed. I don't 325 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 2: think those things are talking about that. You may experience 326 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 2: some of these things. All right, since you're not going 327 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: to write a little book, we're gonna write a book. 328 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: How about Kathy. Do is there anything that you think 329 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: needs to be debunked when it comes to menopause? 330 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, well of several things. But I debunks suggests that 331 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: it's not true. I didn't have decreased sexual desire, so. 332 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: We'll say symptom. But that's me. 333 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 2: So I'm saying when they or or the fact that 334 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 2: everyone has hot flashes, there is no everybody has every 335 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: one of these things. 336 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: I don't have no symptoms, no thought. 337 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 2: I don't take hormones. Well, I don't take hormones. You do, 338 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 2: I don't know enough about them. I think that's one 339 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 2: thing people for a long time, it was, do not 340 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 2: take hormones. You know they cause cancer. I don't take them, 341 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 2: so I don't know. 342 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: I got your name with the breast cancer that came 343 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: out and wrote a book and oh my brain, that's 344 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: part of menopause. 345 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: Menopause. 346 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: She wrote what's her name? 347 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't read it. I was too 348 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: busy messing around on the internet, see what the micro 349 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: trends are. I have no idea anyway. I just think 350 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: that menopause looks different for everybody. And the more research 351 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: you do, the more you learn about it, the more 352 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 2: questions you ask, the better off your going to be. 353 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: Yes, it's true, it's true. And a lot of people 354 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: are ignorant. They don't want to they don't want to 355 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: know because they're not going to go through menopause, right, 356 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: They're just going to skate through. That's some people's mentality 357 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: thing that's not going to happen to me. 358 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 2: And then it's a train wreck sometimes. 359 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: And it is true. 360 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 2: Okay, this next question, what questions should you be asking 361 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 2: yourself if your unsure marriage is right for you? I 362 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: have to tell you I have a young friend. A 363 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 2: lot of my friends are younger than I. This particular 364 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: young lady was here last night. We were having a 365 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 2: glass of wine, chit chatting, and she met her boyfriend 366 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 2: when she was eighteen. She said, Kathy, I listen to 367 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: your podcast. I love you. You get such great advice. 368 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: And then she came out with it. Do you think 369 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: that she's now twenty three, I'll soon to be twenty four? 370 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 2: Do you think that I'm too young, like I should 371 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 2: be dating other men, because he's the only one I've 372 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: ever dated. And I was like, I'm two glasses of 373 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: wine in and you know I've always I met well, 374 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: I said, there's no right or wrong answer. I met 375 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 2: my husband at eighteen. In general, I can tell you 376 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: what I said. In general, I would not advise anyone 377 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: to date the same guy from eighteen and marry him. 378 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 2: But in her case, in my case, for sure, and 379 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: I actually think in her case, we were lucky we 380 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: met this great guy. Her guy is amazing, and you know, 381 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: sometimes God gives you what you need when you're really young. 382 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: So there's really no a good answer for that. 383 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 2: Yes, but I did tell her. I did say to her, 384 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: you guys, before they're talking now about moving in, I said, 385 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 2: you do all couples when you're talking about marriage, you know, 386 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: it's not just buying the cute little white picket fence 387 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 2: house and having the baby and the baby cares and 388 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: of course getting a doodle something dog. It's also having 389 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: the conversation about money and children and who's going to work, 390 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: and how are you going to divide respond Tob wrote 391 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 2: all those things, and I said, that to her, and 392 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: I said, have you had any of those conversations? She 393 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 2: said no, and I said, well, I'd start having those 394 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: before I decide to move in. 395 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: She did you read into that? Maybe she was curious 396 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: about dating somebody. 397 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: Else or no? She said, I love She said no 398 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 2: that her friends are saying to her, you know you 399 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: need to date other men. You're too young. You haven't 400 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: dated on the men. And I said, do you feel 401 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: like you want to? And she goes, not really, it's 402 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 2: just like all my friends say I should. So it 403 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 2: makes me wonder am I doing the wrong thing? You know? 404 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: That's a that is a dead end question you need 405 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: For some people they wake up at thirty and say 406 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: what the hell did I do? And other people stay 407 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 2: married and are so glad they found their person young. 408 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: There's no is there anything you think needs you have 409 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: to What questions would you ask yourself if your unsure 410 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: marriage is right for you? What advice would you give 411 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: to that question? Like somebody ask yourself what questions? 412 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: I mean, that's hard for me because I was married, 413 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 2: but I think I think you I'd have to ask 414 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: myself is living with someone else going to make my 415 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: life better? Am I going to have an enriched life 416 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: by opening my life up to this other person and 417 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 2: bringing him in to. 418 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: Something that comes to my mind, because I've learned over 419 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: the years, when the as they say, honeymoon is over, 420 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: is he everything you want? It's always so good in 421 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: the beginning, the first six months to a year, that's 422 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: the honeymoon, and then you get used to each other's 423 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: habits and all, can you live with a B and 424 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: C that he does? Or can he live with you 425 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: that you do? The habits you got to look really deep, 426 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: and it's hard when you're in that honeymoon phase. 427 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 2: Right. What you said, is the everything you want? If 428 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: you find a man that's everything you want, stop the 429 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 2: presses and let me know. Because there are no perfect people. 430 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 2: There's no perfect marriage, and there's no way you want. 431 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: I know what I want, and I know what I'm 432 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: willing to use the key. 433 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: That's the key what you just said, the compromise part, 434 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: because there is no perfect anybody. 435 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,239 Speaker 2: Yeah there is not. So I think that those are 436 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 2: the questions. Am I better off with this person? Does 437 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: he enrich my life or not? And and honestly, could 438 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 2: I see myself forging a lifelong experience with this person. 439 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: And how do you feel about if they're not sure 440 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: about just keeping them as their partner, whether they're living 441 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: together and they don't have to do the actual marriage. 442 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: Do you have no you pro or you against it? 443 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I think you have to be 444 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: married to have a lifelong partner. Is that what you're asking? 445 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, of course for young people or our age people. 446 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: Are you thinking about our age either? 447 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: Or I will say I'm a bit old fashioned. If 448 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 2: if you're going to have children, I think you should 449 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 2: be married. I know I'll take flat for saying that, 450 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 2: but I believe in the institution of marriage, and I 451 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 2: have particularly believe in it if you decide that you're 452 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 2: going to bring children into the world. But otherwise, I 453 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: have no problem at our age. I have no. 454 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: Problem with the partnership. Yeah. 455 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily have a problem with marriage either, but 456 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: I at my age, but I certainly don't have a 457 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: problem with a partnership. 458 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: Is there anything you're tired of seeing women put up 459 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: with in romantic relationships with men? 460 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: Oh? 461 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: Baby, let a rip? How long do we have? Look 462 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: at the face? I can't just okay. 463 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: I can't. I just can't. I can, but I can't. 464 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 2: You get me. 465 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm tired of seeing women put up with the way 466 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: their spouse or significant other talk to them. If they 467 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: talk to them rude, or they talk to their mothers 468 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: that we've said before, that's called respect. I don't like 469 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 1: seeing that when he bosses her or tells her what 470 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: to do. I've seen it in airports. I've seen it 471 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: on the beach like they were having a little tip 472 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: or whatever. The way he talked her, Why would you 473 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: put up with that? Punch him in the face. 474 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: I mean, no, no, no, no violence, no no no. 475 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 2: But I think that this is more of a heady 476 00:26:54,800 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 2: answer to this. But I hate when I see people 477 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 2: at any age and I hear and it's usually the 478 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: woman saying, I gave it my dreams of being blank 479 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: fill it in the blank because my husband wanted this, 480 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 2: or because we had children and my husband thought I 481 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 2: should stay home. Whatever it is I am. I think 482 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 2: that women give up their dreams sometimes too easily. And 483 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 2: I think the younger generations. You know my daughter, my 484 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 2: daughter in law, they both work and have very successful careers. 485 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 2: But I will say to you, when kids are sick. 486 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 2: A lot of my friends I told you. I have 487 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: a lot of friends with kids and my friends in 488 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: their forties, and they are the ones that are staying 489 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,719 Speaker 2: home with a sick kid, not the husband. So I 490 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 2: just hate to see women diminished at any time by anyone. 491 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 2: That would be my short answer to that question. 492 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of things we could go 493 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: on and on, but I mean, I mean, I don't know. 494 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a real you know what bookmark that 495 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 2: we should do a whole episode on it, and you 496 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 2: all listening right in the things, Yeah, because I'll bet 497 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 2: we would get some great answers to that one. 498 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 499 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 2: All right, we are going to do a new segment 500 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 2: tell us about it is. 501 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: It's called the INDs and the Outs for twenty twenty six. 502 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: All right, now, before we go, we're going to give 503 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: you guys our ins and outs for twenty six. Ends 504 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: are what we want to see more of an outs 505 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: or what we don't want to see this year. We'll 506 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: take turns reading our INDs and then our outs. I'll 507 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: start us off, all right, all right, where's my list? Okay, dokie. 508 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: I hope it's not too long. This is not a 509 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 2: three hour podcast. We can't go over ten Okay, give 510 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 2: me your first one. 511 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: Uh. As far as the Golden Bachelor or The Bachelor, 512 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: I would like to see more one on one dates 513 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,479 Speaker 1: on a show. That's one of my things. 514 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: Okay, that's for the show. 515 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: Yes, self care just for me, power walking, just taking 516 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: care of me. 517 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: I would love. Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, 518 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna hang out to dry hair. So you would 519 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 2: like to take care of yourself. We're gonna do one 520 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: and one. We're just gonna go back and forth here. Okay, 521 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 2: you're so you you would like to take better care 522 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 2: of yourself, get do more walking. Okay, here's my second 523 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,239 Speaker 2: PSA for the day. I love you to pieces, but 524 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 2: you do what I'm always saying on my videos that 525 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: I do about working out. You are a weekend warrior. 526 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: You go out and you do it and you are 527 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: sore and you're tired, and you're like, yeah, I couldn't 528 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: do it. I was too sore. So please yes, in 529 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, I want you to be all in 530 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: with exercise, but you've got to start slowly, all right, 531 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 2: all right. In one of my ins so everyone knows, 532 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: I love to read. I was a writer by training, 533 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 2: had several jobs newspaper writing, a lot of writing in 534 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: my life. Here's here's the oddity. People always give me 535 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: journals to write in. I have a stack of blank 536 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: journals and so one of the writers, right, I am 537 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: going to try to write to fill up pages in 538 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: those churchys. 539 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: Just once a day, just just me, just once a day. 540 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 2: I'm thinking once a week. 541 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: You know what my problem is when I start writing, 542 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: I don't stop. I don't stop. 543 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: I well, you know what I do when I write. 544 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: That's your You hit on something when I write in 545 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: a journal or write something. Because I'm such a grammar queen, 546 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh no, I could say that better, and 547 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: I scratch it out. So it's like, just Kathy, just 548 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 2: write it down and get out, you know, turn the page. 549 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: All right, what's your next? One? 550 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: Another one is to listen but speak my truth. 551 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 2: I like that to everyone. Mm hmm okay. When you 552 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: say speak your truth, what does that mean to you? 553 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: Speak my truth? If I'm asked a question or an opinion, 554 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to give them the right answer, the real answer. 555 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: It's my mean, not the right answer necessarily, but how 556 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: you really feel an answer for me? Your true answer, 557 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 2: how you feel about it. 558 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: If I'm that's good, I'm going to tell the truth. 559 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: Yeah about you next? 560 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: All right? I and actually we had talked about this. 561 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: We have one of the same ones. Yes, I and 562 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 2: Susan we both no, no, no, we would like to 563 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 2: do more in person, more in person interviews for the 564 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: podcast because I think. 565 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: That's great to have them in the room with us. 566 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: That's like you buy that. 567 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: Body language. I know our producers aren't listening, but we'll 568 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: tell them later. But I think there's a difference when 569 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: you interview someone and you can look them in the 570 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: eye in person. 571 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: I know I see, but yeah, but it's energy exactly. 572 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: So that's a that's an in for me. All right, 573 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 2: what about you? 574 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: Okay? I also have my Irish schoolbys. I like them. 575 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: It takes twenty five extra minutes when you're ready to 576 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: leave if you have to think about it. Everybody, I 577 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: mean normally just the post or something you sneak out. 578 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: I'm into Irish coobys. 579 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I never used to be, but I'm learning. 580 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 2: I did one the other night, actually, just slip out. 581 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: You know. 582 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: I was at a party and I just kind of 583 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 2: slipped out. It was great. I like it. Okay, I've 584 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 2: got a simple one here. Okay, I'm demonstrating it right now. 585 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 2: Drink more water, always, always, always the inn for me. 586 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: This year, I'm going to try a lot of new 587 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: restaurants and write reviews on them. You know how much 588 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm a foodie. I'm thinking, why I have not been 589 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: doing this for so long? 590 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 2: Where are you going to write the reviews a Google? Oh? Oh, 591 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 2: you mean leave leave a Google a review on Yes, 592 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 2: I thought you meant like write be a restaurant critic. 593 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 2: You just mean write a review and leave it on 594 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 2: Google for people to. 595 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: Say, for other people to try. 596 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: Oh God, beware, Susan doesn't. 597 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: In every state. 598 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 2: Okay, here's another strange one I have. I have people, 599 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 2: because they know I love to read, give me books, 600 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 2: and because I travel out, I have a kindle, so 601 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 2: I read a lot of books on my kindle. So 602 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 2: I have a stack of books upstairs. So one of 603 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: my inns this year is and I love turning pages, 604 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 2: but I don't like lugging books through airports. But one 605 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 2: of my inns is going to read less on the 606 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: kindle and have the feel and the weight of a 607 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 2: book in my hands. And that great feel of the 608 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 2: smell of a book and turning the page. 609 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: Good for you, I prefer. 610 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 2: And additionally, I'm going to add in because I was 611 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 2: an English major and I loved British literature and American literature. 612 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 2: I'm a nerd, a geek, I know it. I want 613 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 2: to go back. And I don't read three or four 614 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 2: classics this year, you know, like Gone with the Wind, Lolita, 615 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 2: just some of the classics that I haven't read since 616 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 2: I was in school. So changing my reading. 617 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 1: And my last one for the ends would be time 618 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: with friends and family. 619 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 2: Oh I have that one too. 620 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, now let's do Oh. 621 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 2: Wait, I've got one more. I want to get a 622 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 2: couple more. I want to get out of my kayak 623 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 2: more because you know, I work out like a fiend, 624 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 2: but I want to get out. I own a kayak, 625 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 2: I live on the lake. I want to get out 626 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 2: of my The problem is it's a two man kayak 627 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 2: and I can't manage it on my own. So you 628 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 2: know I want to I want to. Uh, I want 629 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 2: to do that, And I also also want I have 630 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 2: Do you have a junk drawer, Susan? 631 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 1: Yes? 632 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 2: Is that singular or plural? 633 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: One? And I organize it every six of. 634 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 2: Course you do. I am trying to reduce my junk 635 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 2: drawers to one. That is my end. I want to 636 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 2: have one junk drawer. 637 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: All right, for the Alps, We're going to name a 638 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: few at a time. Okay, all right, you want to start. 639 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 2: Oh I got a few, Okay, Well my most ok okay, 640 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 2: my most serious, Well, my most serious one is I 641 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 2: am going to out for me is trying to tell 642 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: others how to live their lives and how they can 643 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 2: make their lives better. Uh, if they want to live drama, 644 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 2: let them lift the drama. I'm gonna get out my 645 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 2: box of popcorn and just watch it. Watch the whole 646 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 2: thing evolved. And and okay another well, and the funny 647 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 2: one is I want to stop worrying about my hair. 648 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 2: Oh god, I'm out. I'm tired of worrying about my hair. 649 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 2: What about you? 650 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: Okay? I am over the word TA like, give me 651 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: the T the T I'm sick of here and tea. 652 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 2: That's all Susan read. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, 653 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 2: this is not my list, but let's talk about it. 654 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 2: Do you know one I'm going to imitate? Do you 655 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 2: know one of the words that. First of all, I 656 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 2: have two things using me when you mean I. I 657 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 2: want to just jump through you know jump I always yeah, 658 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 2: and you say me when you mean I. But that's 659 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 2: a whole nother we'll give a grammar lesson another another 660 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 2: you know episode the other word that dries. It wasn't 661 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 2: on my list, but now it is because you can 662 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 2: bring up yours like like I really feel like it's 663 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 2: like younger generation. Stop using the word Okay, there are words. 664 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 1: I Also an out for me is the spur of 665 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: the moment online purchases, which is. 666 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 2: Oh God, put Amazon out of business. 667 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: And stop taking online criticism, personally uncomfortable shoes, overpriced coffee, 668 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: tipping without getting a service. Have you been to the 669 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: store and I want a gratuity? What do you mean 670 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: you didn't help me. I brought your job and. 671 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 2: Give me an example. Give me an example. I just 672 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 2: did what listen you said, going and bringing something like 673 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 2: give me your going to a store. 674 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 1: You're purchasing something, you go get it yourself, you bring 675 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: it to the counter, and they want to know if 676 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: you want to tip. Their job is to bring that up. 677 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 1: Oh police, yes it happens. 678 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 2: I thought you meant not tipping for bad service. 679 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I'm just going to go through 680 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 1: the rest of my Then you could do yours. Vegan leather? 681 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 2: Okay, what's what do you animals? 682 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: Astronomical? There is no vegan leather. It's not leather. 683 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 2: It's plastic leather. 684 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: Is leather? 685 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 2: Does that mean you're going back to leather? 686 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: I am also out with less than eight hours of sleep, 687 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: and people pleasing all the time, and my last but 688 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: not least, stop trying to do it all, and the 689 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: power of saying now, I don't wait, how about her? 690 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 2: And I got some questions on yours? 691 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: Oh god, you can question mine their mine? 692 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't understand. When you see out 693 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 2: with vegan leather, does that mean you're gonna wear real leather? 694 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I prefer I don't believe that I have 695 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: to pay what I would pay for real leather when 696 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: it's not really leather. They're calling it vegan leather. There's 697 00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,439 Speaker 1: no such thing. 698 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 2: Well, it's plastic leather is leather? Okay? 699 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: Do you like paying four hundred dollars for a pair 700 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: of vegan paints? 701 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't really buy four hundred dollars vegan pants. 702 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 2: And one more question, does this mean you're not gonna 703 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 2: wear fake fur? You're gonna buy the really don't coat. Okay, 704 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 2: don't tell anyone that you're gonna get painted on your 705 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 2: coat next time you're in New York City. Okay, I 706 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 2: I'm I'm out with leaving my clothes unhung in my closet. 707 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 2: I'll come in there. Sometimes I just throw them on 708 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 2: the chair, and that's that's got to end. I got 709 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 2: to clean up that closet right after I finish my 710 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,240 Speaker 2: junk doors. I'm gonna head into. 711 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 1: My closet after she makes her coffee, after. 712 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 2: After I have some freshly grind coffee that took me 713 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 2: two hours to make. Okay, Then I so spending so 714 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 2: much time on social media. I want to enjoy the 715 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 2: minute I'm living through my eye, the lens of my eye, 716 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 2: not the lens of my iPhone. And that's a big 717 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 2: one for me. 718 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: That's good. 719 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 2: And then my last one is speaking of micro whatever 720 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 2: they are micro fashion, I am sick to death. We 721 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 2: talked about it. Short rompers, and it's not because I 722 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 2: can't wear them. They are out for me because should 723 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 2: I decide to wear a short romper or a long romper. 724 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 2: You can't pee in them, it's too hard. I do 725 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 2: pick clothes, No, absolutely no, And I'm not having my 726 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: clothes on the floor in a public bathroom. So short 727 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 2: rompers of all sorts, robbers of all sorts are out 728 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 2: for me. 729 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: You didn't like the one with uncomfortable shoes. I'm so over. 730 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 2: I don't wear uncomfortable, Susan, I've never I'm from Boston. 731 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 2: We wear sensible Oxfords. No, you don't. We do not 732 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 2: wear I mean I don't. I don't have what to 733 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 2: call it on the side of your foot. You have 734 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 2: one what do they call a bunyon? Get get rid 735 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 2: of the because we have. 736 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: Wear heels and pumps. I did hair and was a 737 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: flight intendant for years. And nowadays the flight attendants they 738 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: wear ugly shoes. 739 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 2: Can I just tell you the Can I just tell 740 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 2: you the career that's going by the wayside because everyone 741 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 2: wears sneakers. Now sneakers used to be what's wrong with it? 742 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 2: He's got sneakers on you? Now cool style? I wear 743 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 2: it with the podiatrists. Pediatrists are screwed. No one's got 744 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 2: any feed problems anymore. Oh that was that really was fun. Okay. 745 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 2: You know we have a lot of ins and outs, 746 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 2: but friendship is definitely an end with you, my dear 747 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 2: always always Okay. Thanks so much to our listeners. We 748 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 2: hope you enjoyed this as much as we did. Please 749 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 2: make sure you're sending us your questions. It's very easy 750 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 2: to do. Just go to Bachelor nation dot com slash 751 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 2: Golden Hour. We love dishing out advice. We want to 752 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 2: hear urines and outs. 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