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Speaker 1: All right, y'all, you know what time of day. It's me.

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Speaker 1: It's Kim Jordan. It's off here songs.

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Speaker 2: It's off the edge of the podcast of Me, your host,

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Speaker 2: Kim Jordan. I'm super excited to bring in one of

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Speaker 2: my big dogs. Actually he's a big cat, but we'll

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Speaker 2: get into more of that. Because he's a first round pick,

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Speaker 2: top top ten at number like what six or something

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Speaker 2: like that. Man, it's been the Pro Bowls, you know

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Speaker 2: this this man is over fifty sacks. I think he's

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Speaker 2: sitting at like sixty change.

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Speaker 1: You know. If I'm late, I'm wrong, and I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry I'm late.

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Speaker 2: But I think this guy has a ton of potential.

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Speaker 2: He shows a year or year out formerly of the

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Speaker 2: big you know, of the Pac ten, now they're in

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Speaker 2: the Big something or other.

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Speaker 1: They left, you know, went to USC so they left

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Speaker 1: cal behind. Now we're at the ACC.

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Speaker 2: Whatever that is. It's my dog, big cat. Leonard Williams

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Speaker 2: aka Leo Leo.

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Speaker 3: What's up, baby up man? Thanks for having me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, bro, just over the years, a lot of

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Speaker 2: respects for your game. I met you when you was,

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Speaker 2: you know, a young cub and now you big Leo

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Speaker 2: the lion type.

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Speaker 3: It's been a long time, man.

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Speaker 1: It's been a long time.

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Speaker 2: It's time for this week's Drive for Success Conversation, presented

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Speaker 2: by Toyota.

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Speaker 1: Let's go places.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Before I even get into football, I just want

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Speaker 2: to start off, like, how did you get in the cards?

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Speaker 1: Trading cards? You know, it was a cash a smash.

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Speaker 2: The only other football player that I know that has

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Speaker 2: a big, big trading card collection is that guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a big part of it, actually. But

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Speaker 4: I was collecting Pokemon cards when I was young. My

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Speaker 4: cousin was in like Pokemon tournaments. He was like playing competitively.

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Speaker 4: But at the time when I was young, I was

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Speaker 4: just into like the shiny cards. I was collecting them,

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Speaker 4: keeping them my binders and stuff like that. And then

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Speaker 4: around COVID time, I found out, you know how expensive

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Speaker 4: like a shiny Charsar was going for. And then I

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Speaker 4: went back home. Yeah, it was crazy first edition. Uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, shiny chars Aar was going for a lot.

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Speaker 4: And then I went home and found some of my

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Speaker 4: old buying. I didn't have much in there, you know,

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Speaker 4: but I still have a few things that were worth

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Speaker 4: some stuff. And it kind of got me back into collecting,

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Speaker 4: and once my little brother found out that I was

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Speaker 4: collecting Pokemon cards, he introduced me to magic to gathering,

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Speaker 4: and then that's when I got really big into cards

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Speaker 4: because magic, you know, it came from collecting to playing,

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Speaker 4: and that's when I really got competitive with it. And

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Speaker 4: then once I got into it, Cashu's Marsh actually built

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Speaker 4: me one of my first decks, which is pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: See, I don't know if I'm ever gonna get get.

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Speaker 3: To magic, but it's pretty complicated, bro, I've.

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Speaker 2: Seen I said, Bro, that don't look like a kid's game.

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Speaker 2: That's that's a pro man game right there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I even try to introduce it to my girl and

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Speaker 4: she was just like, you know, it sounds like you're

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Speaker 4: speaking a different language.

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Speaker 3: So I'm good.

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Speaker 2: You got your thing and I got my thing. Thanks,

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Speaker 2: mab oh Man. All right, well shoot, you know we

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Speaker 2: can definitely get back to it. Just think about looking

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Speaker 2: around the league this week. Before I asked you to

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Speaker 2: get on here, you know, I didn't think it would

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Speaker 2: have this question here. Now we got Philip Rivers, you know,

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Speaker 2: will possibly sign it with gotta ask.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what's it like?

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Speaker 2: I mean, sure, younger years, you gotta you gotta face

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Speaker 2: him over it at the Chargers.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're my first time facing them actually really yeah,

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Speaker 1: I take the one that sits in the pocket versus

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, as a pass rusher, I mean chase. Uh.

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Speaker 4: You know, these modern day quarterbacks are sometimes hard to

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Speaker 3: Pocket.

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Speaker 4: We got, you know, a guy's rushing on our defense

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Speaker 1: You Byron Murphy, you got to tank lords.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, I said, yo, bro, like y'all just

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Speaker 3: Half a season.

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Speaker 4: I remember playing against Law when I was on the Giants,

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Speaker 4: and you know, he used to terrorize our off's when

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Speaker 4: I was when he was with the Cowboys, and now

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Speaker 4: being paired with him is a blessing. I mean, he's

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Speaker 3: Man, He's he's an animal.

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I mean just just let's just think this

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Speaker 2: thirty nine, forty forty one, forty forty four years old

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Speaker 1: Are you coming to get a check at defensive end?

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Speaker 3: I mean at that point, I don't know, forty four,

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Speaker 3: I think if I'm out of the league for you know.

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Speaker 4: That long, and I'm already fine during my retirement, man,

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Speaker 4: I think I'd be all right. Man. I think I

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Speaker 4: got my family, I got my hobbies, I got my

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Speaker 4: other inter so outside of football at that point. Yeah, don't

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Speaker 4: get me wrong, I'm gonna ride this until the wills

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Speaker 4: like I got some years of left in me. A

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Speaker 4: I'm done, I'm done, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: But I finally, if the words I'm done leave my lips,

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Speaker 2: I'm not even looking back.

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Speaker 1: Hey, can we got this ten million for you? That's nice?

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Speaker 1: Keep it brother, Hey yeah, right, God is good. His

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Speaker 3: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: So when we think about when we think about just

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Speaker 1: You got a major game coming in is there?

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Speaker 2: Min?

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Speaker 3: Is there?

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Speaker 2: Mindset chef, And it's almost like it's a playoff game.

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Speaker 2: You got top of vision, top of their division opponent

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Speaker 2: Indiapolis Coach, You guys are fighting for the top of

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Speaker 1: Where does that take you?

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Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I would say what I love about

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Speaker 4: just taking it one week at a time, and I

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Speaker 4: feel like that's still been the message lately. You know,

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Speaker 4: we just came up of our tenth win of the season,

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Speaker 4: obviously playoffs are in the back of our minds. But

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Speaker 4: I think what's gotten to this point is taking it

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Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, but I think our our team

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Speaker 4: don't want to think too far in advance and start

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad you said, you know last week, you know,

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Speaker 2: because y'all beat the hell out the Falcons. I just like,

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Speaker 2: you know, you just glance off and if there's one

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Speaker 1: I said, Oh so, yeah, whooped that ass.

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Speaker 3: We took care of that for you, We took care

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Speaker 3: of just took care of one for us.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean when I think about you know, you're fighting

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Speaker 2: bye week versus playing in a wild card homefol homefield

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Speaker 2: guess what you playing. You play in the first round,

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Speaker 2: number one, you get that week off. That's that's crucial

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think that'd be that's that's really crucial.

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Speaker 4: I think we're looking forward to playing the Rams obviously

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Speaker 4: But also you know, we didn't play our best ball

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Speaker 4: I think our team is hungry. We're looking forward to

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Speaker 4: playing them next week on Thursday Night football. And also,

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Speaker 4: speaking of all those advantages that we just talked about,

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Speaker 4: if we clinched that win, we've we're pretty We've had

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Speaker 4: a pretty banged up team. You know, all teams are

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Speaker 4: week one of the playoffs, it would be huge.

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Speaker 1: No doubt, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: I mean, so, so do you do you sort of

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Speaker 2: watch what the Rams are doing right now? Are you

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Speaker 2: are you paying attention to where they're at.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm paying attention to all of that stuff.

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Speaker 4: And it feels amazing because I've been in a lot

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Speaker 4: So it's a blessing to be in this position right

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Speaker 4: now where you know every game matters, and you know,

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Speaker 4: we talk about playing meaningful football in December and how

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Speaker 4: you know I've been on teams before where we're counting

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Speaker 4: down the days by this time of year too to

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Speaker 4: end the season, because you know, coaching staff is probably gone.

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Speaker 4: You know, you probably got two wins, you're not going

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Speaker 4: to the playoffs. Playing in miserable weather, it's like you're

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Speaker 4: not really playing for much, fighting for much, and right now,

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Speaker 4: you know everything's ahead of us. So the season feels

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Speaker 4: like it went by super fast and.

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Speaker 3: It's been really fun and exciting.

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Speaker 2: The play man on the flip side, bro, we won

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Speaker 2: three games this year. I'm like, this is the first

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Speaker 2: time my career where i haven't been playing meaning for

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Speaker 2: football in December. I'm like, all right, well, now I'm

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Speaker 4: It and I said, but I'm telling you I've been

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Speaker 2: When they got built in excuses of why oh he

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when y'all turn that tape on, you're gonna see

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Speaker 1: In fact, now I gotta go harder because you like

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Speaker 2: I'm on the field. They was like, bro, like how

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Speaker 2: You're going against the office alignment with the in fact,

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Speaker 1: I'm like speed of power. I know what he's trying

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Speaker 4: So you're right, like, but honestly, I mean, I respect

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Speaker 4: but uh, it does look a little funny. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Extra big. My daughter Cedric Wilson over Miami had that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we all have it in practice, but

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Speaker 2: I don't know what has to change. I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I see, I see you must come

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a flex tape if if I got

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Speaker 2: for real, for real?

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Speaker 1: How do you? How do you? How do you like

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Speaker 3: Amazing?

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Speaker 4: Man, It's it's really been a special Like not even

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Speaker 4: We said, we say this, like even if you have

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Speaker 4: And it's just really special here right now. I think

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Speaker 4: into like working hard. I think like because we work

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Speaker 4: with some great coaches. You know, I'm not trying to

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Speaker 4: great offense, great defense, I've been a part of some

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Speaker 4: Whereas here, you know, we're come out the field and

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Speaker 4: we have all the complimentary football, colimentary football at its finest, fine,

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Speaker 4: and it's like there's so many guys to compete with

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Speaker 3: It's like our.

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Speaker 4: Linebacker, secondary, d line, It's like we're competing with a

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Speaker 1: You six five, You got Reek Woodland over there.

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Speaker 2: At six four, You got to corner at six four

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Speaker 2: out there flying around? What they hell like, how's this

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Speaker 2: juggernaut out here moving that fast? But I mean that's man,

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Speaker 2: that's I know, it's got to be an exciting time

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Speaker 1: How is it like? What has that trade done for

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Speaker 2: You talk about the locker room vibes, you know, when

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Speaker 2: utmost confidence. How was that transition because then you you know,

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Speaker 2: last year Pro Bowl. Now we know you as Leo

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Speaker 2: the multiple Pro bowler. You know that you are set

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Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, even if we're doing bad, I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I've only played eight games here, and then they signed

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Speaker 2: Many Yeah, that's like I said so far to here,

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Speaker 1: Which one do you prefer?

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Speaker 1: We mess up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because like sometimes it is tough that like he's

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Speaker 4: he puts me in positions to be great, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I say, look, you gotta have your leaders actually lead.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to lead when you're like you're like, oh, hey, man, dude,

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Speaker 2: it's just lead by lead by your words. Now, it's

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Speaker 2: by all all walks of life.

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Speaker 3: Exactly.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Seattle's a big place too. I mean New York. Look,

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Speaker 4: it was like, you know, we were close, we had

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00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,239
Speaker 4: close teammates and stuff that we like went out all

439
00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,399
Speaker 4: the time and hung out at restaurants and went to

440
00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,960
Speaker 4: shows and live shows and plays and all that type

441
00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,800
Speaker 4: of stuff. Whereas here, like we're really close in the building,

442
00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,240
Speaker 4: but it's just a sleepy city. It's like it's dark

443
00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,120
Speaker 4: all the time. It's rainy as gloomy, gloomy, but we're

444
00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,640
Speaker 4: not really hanging out outside of football that much. Besides, tonight,

445
00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,720
Speaker 4: we're about to go see my boy Daved Chappelle.

446
00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,879
Speaker 2: That's man, that's that sounds fire like said, you know,

447
00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,679
Speaker 2: that's one of the best comedians of all times. The

448
00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,840
Speaker 2: Chappelle show alone is gonna like stay in the anmals

449
00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,600
Speaker 2: of time of the craziness that set up everything else.

450
00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,480
Speaker 2: We'll be right back now. I mean, now you labeled

451
00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,919
Speaker 2: a d you know, your defensive end. You've started off

452
00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,359
Speaker 2: as a big D tackle defensive end. You know, at

453
00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,800
Speaker 2: this point you can probably play outside linebacker. I've gone

454
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,200
Speaker 2: from D been labeled DT for a second. I said,

455
00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,320
Speaker 2: I'm not that, you know, and now I think I

456
00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,320
Speaker 2: just got labeled OLB for the first time in my career.

457
00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, look at me, hybrid Titan, Like, how do

458
00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,440
Speaker 2: you how do you feel like being able to be

459
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,720
Speaker 2: able to play so many different positions?

460
00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,919
Speaker 3: I mean, I love being able to be a hybrid.

461
00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,120
Speaker 4: I think it's what's been able to you know, It's

462
00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,640
Speaker 4: what stood out about me during the draft. It's what's

463
00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,280
Speaker 4: been able to you know. I've been able to play

464
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,720
Speaker 4: all up and down the line. Coaches like to put

465
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 4: me like over the tackle sometimes to help stop the

466
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,919
Speaker 4: run or get certain pass rush ops, same vice versa.

467
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:47,520
Speaker 3: On the inside.

468
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 4: But uh, you know what that comes hard stuff too,

469
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,119
Speaker 4: Like I think I'm personally a D tackle. Actually, I

470
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,920
Speaker 4: play most of my snaps at three technique. Yeah, most

471
00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 4: of my rushes are from the three technique. I'm getting

472
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,600
Speaker 4: double team like a three technique. I'm not rushing out

473
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 4: here on the edge like a guy like Miles Garrett.

474
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 3: T J. Watt type of guy.

475
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,360
Speaker 4: I'm more of a three technique Russian, you know, So,

476
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 4: like sometimes it's kind of a hard balance because I

477
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,120
Speaker 4: want to be a hybrid. I want to be able

478
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,280
Speaker 4: to help my team and play along the line, play

479
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,879
Speaker 4: you know, play the piano down the line, but personally.

480
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,680
Speaker 4: But then sometimes it hurts when pro bo votes happen

481
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:28,399
Speaker 4: because like even this year, like the first week of voting,

482
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 4: they had me listed as a d N and my

483
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 4: stats don't really quite align with.

484
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:34,359
Speaker 3: D ns that.

485
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, but when you put me as a d tackle,

486
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 4: I'm you know, top three, top five d tackle when

487
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 4: it comes to the three technique positions, So you know,

488
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 4: I eventually got that switched over, luckily, so they have

489
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,399
Speaker 4: me listed as a detach tackle.

490
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'll tell you that that that that one.

491
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 3: Little thin little it makes a difference, man.

492
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,719
Speaker 2: Makes a huge difference from guys that are rushing from

493
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 2: that nine SEVENS versus four I three I two I.

494
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are not the same.

495
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, I'm

496
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 4: three fifteen, you know, I'm I'm plugging gaps, playing double

497
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 4: teams in the inside. Yeah, rushing from the three technique spot,

498
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 4: I'm not just blazing on the on the edge, and

499
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 4: it's different.

500
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 3: Those guys get a lot more sacks.

501
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,880
Speaker 2: I'd be remissing. We look, we talked about you being

502
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 2: from USC. Take it back to the college days. How

503
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 2: do you feel about you know that that packed twelve,

504
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 2: packed with PAC ten?

505
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 1: I was the last pack ten.

506
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 3: So PAC twelve? Are you twelve? When I was?

507
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:30,160
Speaker 1: Okay?

508
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so PAC twelve for you? Now they're in

509
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 2: the Big ten, big big ten? Like that's what ce see?

510
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:38,399
Speaker 3: Is it twelve?

511
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 4: Now?

512
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,640
Speaker 1: I don't know? You tell me there's two of them.

513
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 1: I know, I know cows in the a CC.

514
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 4: You know, you know USC and U c l A

515
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 4: love over to the Big ten. So I'm not sure

516
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 4: that makes it big twelve.

517
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 1: No, no, big twelve is is a different conference? Both of

518
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: them can't count. But yeah, uh so you were in

519
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: the Big ten? Like how is it?

520
00:21:59,280 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 3: Does it?

521
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:00,959
Speaker 1: Does it a fa? The way you look at it?

522
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 1: Like USC used to be a part of the West Coast.

523
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah you're opponent and now you ever, you're traveling towards Ohio,

524
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 2: you know, Ohio State, and you're having to go play

525
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 2: Michigan or whatever that is. How do you how do

526
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 2: you feel about it.

527
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 3: I mean, it's definitely interesting to make a big move

528
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 3: like that. Right away.

529
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 4: I just knew we were gonna have to build in

530
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 4: the trenches if we're gonna go play over there in

531
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 4: the Big Turn. They got the big country, strong boys

532
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,239
Speaker 4: on the Yeah. And we're used to playing, you know

533
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 4: that wide open offenses, you know, like Oregon and stuff

534
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 4: like that.

535
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 3: On the West Office, the line that can move, Yeah, exactly.

536
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 4: So you know, being on the you know, playing in

537
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 4: the part twelve, we were used to being more speed oriented,

538
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 4: more skill oriented, versus like being in the Big ten.

539
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 3: You gotta gotta be a little slower, lay bigger.

540
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what.

541
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

542
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 4: And uh, you know, I feel like we've been doing

543
00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 4: decent this year. You know, besides that lost to Illinois,

544
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 4: there's been a few, you know, losses that you know,

545
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 4: I wish we could have got back. But overall, I

546
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,719
Speaker 4: think we're we're grown in the right direction.

547
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, are you tracking them? Look, I'm not.

548
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: I tracked my team relatively, like like I monitor room

549
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 2: until we lose about three, and then I'm like.

550
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 4: Once we lose three, I'm like damp saying, So, I mean,

551
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 4: I'm so far removed at this point. I've been away

552
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 4: from USC for eleven years. I want to go back

553
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 4: at some point. I've been talking to them. We do

554
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 4: this thing where they bring back you know, the old

555
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 4: alum and old you know, we run the guys out

556
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 4: of the tunnel and stuff like that. So I'm looking

557
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 4: forward to doing that at some point, maybe next year

558
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 4: if I get the bye week that aligns with it.

559
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, I keep track a little bit. But like

560
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 4: you said, once we once we lose and we're like

561
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,959
Speaker 4: out of the playoffs or something, it's kind of it's

562
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 4: kind of hard to follow.

563
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,719
Speaker 2: No doubt. So you are you in or out on

564
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 2: this Lincoln Riley era? You're in?

565
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: You got to be in.

566
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 3: I'm in. I'm in.

567
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 4: Our receiver, you know, we've got like a top five

568
00:23:55,440 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 4: receiver right now. Quarterbacks pretty good. Yeah, I don't know

569
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 4: too much us besides us.

570
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 2: Look, cal just got got a new head coach in

571
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: Tash Lupoy, who played at Cal back.

572
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:07,959
Speaker 1: In the day.

573
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: And I'm all excited now, Like I'm like, I'm all

574
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: back in now, I said, Tosh lu Boy back, we

575
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 2: got we got one of the big greats. Okay, we

576
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: got a Calbert being a calber again. You know, we

577
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: got Robberia as a GM. I said, I said, we

578
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 2: might be a real you know, we might be putting

579
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: it together.

580
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 3: YEA, Now I don't.

581
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: I still can't sit right there. We're in the a CC.

582
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: We're a West.

583
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 2: Coast, a Pacific north West Coast teams Oakland area, and

584
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 2: we we played people like Duke.

585
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 4: I mean, this is this whole nil thing. I mean,

586
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 4: I understand it and respected. I was a broke kid

587
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 4: in college and I went to USC.

588
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to hear that. I don't believe you.

589
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 4: It was after Reggie Bush though they were on a

590
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 4: tight leash at that point. Everybody was like, I know

591
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 4: you took money, yes, but I'm like even I'm even

592
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 4: even hearing a teams are pulling out of bowl games

593
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 4: and stuff right now. So it's like, you see that

594
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 4: there's a lot of funny stuff happening in college football

595
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 4: right now.

596
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, huh.

597
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 2: Notre Dame was like, you know what, I still like,

598
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 2: I still don't understand how Notre Dame USC is a

599
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 2: rival situation. I want to ask that it'd be yeah,

600
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 2: but like Notre Dame pulls out a bowl game I'm like, yo,

601
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 2: for if you're.

602
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: A senior and listen, your last year, you're gonna pull

603
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: out a.

604
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 2: Bowl game like I wanted to playing bowl games, like

605
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 2: we fought for that.

606
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I don't college nothing.

607
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: Man, you see, you see the message is that s

608
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: posed to teach anybody something like, yo, it's okay, like

609
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 2: you didn't make it, Okay, go to a bowl game

610
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: and show out.

611
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: That's that's some of the last film kids are going

612
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: to have. Not even makes it to the league.

613
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 4: And plus those are like core memories I think, as yeah,

614
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 4: like you said, nobody makes it. Not everybody makes it

615
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 4: to the league, and like I mean, those are still

616
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 4: to this day for me, core memories of going to

617
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 4: bowl games and the city taking care of the team

618
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 4: and doing all the events and shows and stuff like

619
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 4: that with the team, and you know, your last little

620
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 4: you know, chance to show scouts what you have as

621
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 4: a senior.

622
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 3: You know, no doubt.

623
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: That's like, that's like, that's like guys often now the

624
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. If I get that invite, I'm in there.

625
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: But I also, you know, maybe maybe it was me.

626
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: I also just thought like I was better than everybody,

627
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 2: So I was like now I'm gonna put this on display.

628
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: You know college, when you when you top tier, you

629
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: know you top tier and you're like, bro, I don't

630
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 2: care who's in front of me.

631
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: Come get some work.

632
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 3: And not built the same man man.

633
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 2: You know, and I get it too, Like if you

634
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 2: if you supposed to be a locked in top ten,

635
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: you know what I can understand protecting the investment. I

636
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 2: thought I was locked in top fifteen. I slid twenty four.

637
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 2: So oh well, you know they say they say it

638
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: don't matter where you get drafted. I think that's a

639
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: that's a sham. But let's say it does. It always

640
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: matters where you get draft, Like that's that's people that

641
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 2: haven't got drafted, or say that everybody has opportunity.

642
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: Sure you can get an opportunity, but if you're a

643
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: first rounder, your team wants you to succeed.

644
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, your team wants you to prove like, hey, this

645
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 2: is the guy that I chose, looking him work.

646
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: Now you have to do all the work, but you're getting.

647
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 2: More chances than that fifth round whatever, sixth round defensive

648
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: been in the same position.

649
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right.

650
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 4: Like that label kind of stays with you throughout your

651
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 4: career that you were a first rounder. Even when it

652
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 4: comes to contract negotiations, it's like, you know, once you

653
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 4: become a first rounder, your contracts is just going to

654
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 4: be in a different bracker than guys who are you know,

655
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 4: third fourth or lower.

656
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, immediately like, hey, like we we like

657
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 2: we like paying our guys to show loyalty towards you know,

658
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Speaker 2: are not only our fan base, but our players as well.

659
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Speaker 2: I think it goes hand in hand. But like I said,

660
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Speaker 2: this nil landscape is changing, it's changed.

661
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Speaker 4: I found out I found out a receiver in Ohio

662
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Speaker 4: State is getting paid more than Jackson Smith this year,

663
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Speaker 4: and I was like, it's kind of crazy.

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Speaker 1: No, that's wild. Yeah, he's going crazy.

665
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Speaker 3: NFL the league is getting paid less than in college with.

666
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Speaker 1: Man, hey, god is good the money on right there.

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Speaker 2: I mean that that that alone man to be to

668
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Speaker 2: be in college and not have to worry about like

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Speaker 2: picking up a job or two, it would have been nice,

670
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Speaker 2: really nice. I don't know if I would have ended

671
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Speaker 2: up in the league, though you would gave you would

672
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 2: have gave me four million dollars as an eighteen year

673
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: old bro. That would have changed everything. But like you,

674
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Speaker 2: I remember what I was five hundred twenty five hundred.

675
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: I was bowling.

676
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for real, you know if you clear, you clear?

677
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: Rent was like a band in the bay, you know,

678
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Speaker 2: so that's a band out. It was only getting a

679
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: band in. So I had I had a cop a

680
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: second job. At one point, I had two real jobs.

681
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Speaker 2: I was so I was a peer advisor as well

682
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Speaker 2: as a as a security bouncer.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I mean broy them.

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00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: Clubs, them clubes paying like twenty five dollars cash. You

685
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, minimum nine hours. I said, yeah,

686
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Speaker 2: we'll be here in off season. Don worry about a trail,

687
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: no paper trails, which I'm sure he got fire for that.

688
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: But hey, we was we was working, working, But I

689
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: mean we were trapping in college, man for sure. Man,

690
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: just hey, try to thunk this one now. And now

691
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Speaker 2: the boys is out there making that money on damn

692
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Speaker 2: damn a rent? They paying condos?

693
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Speaker 3: About that?

694
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Speaker 1: It's hey, it's living a dream.

695
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Speaker 2: Uh. The last couple of questions I have for you,

696
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: I messed up and talked about trading cards.

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Speaker 1: But does that mean you an anime guy? And if so,

698
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Speaker 1: what you watch it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I am into anime too. My favorite anime I

700
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Speaker 3: think of all time.

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Speaker 1: Might be don't you do it? No.

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Speaker 4: One Piece is up there, It's in my top three,

703
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 4: but I think my number one is Attack on tight End. Okay,

704
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 4: the story, the storyline, character development, all that type of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Bring me Levi Ackerman. Yeah, yeah, I'm good with it.

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Speaker 2: I see I look, bro like I'm I'm I'm here

707
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Speaker 2: for anything with hands.

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Speaker 3: You don't like you don't like one pieceuf, bro, come.

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Speaker 1: On, my only my only problem is the anime. And

710
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: to start, One Piece is so trash.

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00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: It's old, right, I mean I would rather watch dragon

712
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: Ball back in the Gap than One Piece, Like it's

713
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: like it was not it was like it's like it's

714
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: like South Park level animation in the beginning, and the

715
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: storyline is so mid until.

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00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 3: It is so dragged out.

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Speaker 1: That's all these all these filler episodes, like.

718
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot of felling when people right.

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Speaker 2: Now though, sure, bro, the the legend goes, you have

720
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Speaker 2: to watch like two hundred episodes before it gets good.

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Speaker 3: Kiss my one fight last three seasons.

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Speaker 1: No doubt.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, I used to run home to

724
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Speaker 2: dragon Ball Z and that used to keep me off

725
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Speaker 2: the edge of my seat.

726
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: Like, no, I gotta go see him. He about to

727
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: go to work on freezer. You about to fight sale,

728
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: He about to fight boo.

729
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: You've never said that one time about one piece And

730
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: for the first couple of hundred episodes.

731
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Speaker 1: Now that he's on like year five, I'm like, yo,

732
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: it's too late.

733
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Speaker 3: I'm out.

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Speaker 1: I'm out. Yeah, absolutely, you know, uh.

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Speaker 2: I've got kids, So like now they just started watching

736
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: my reincarnated life as a slime.

737
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: These jokers are hooked.

738
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Speaker 3: I don't know that one.

739
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that as long as there's hands,

740
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm about it.

741
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: So we're watching together, you know what I'm saying, Like,

742
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: I could care less if it's rocky, if it's animation, like.

743
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 4: Is another one of my favorite two actual The first

744
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 4: is short. It's short, but it's to the point.

745
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: I like it.

746
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: The first season.

747
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: I like both.

748
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 4: Hell, the second season, I can get you. It's like

749
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 4: it's slowed down. He becomes like a farmer stuff. But

750
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Speaker 4: it's like the whole, like the source of plowshare story.

751
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: I like, no, I see, I'm not here for that.

752
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

753
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: The first season, I said, oh, I said, I can't

754
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: wait for the second season. Putting hands on people. He

755
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: think he baki himas switched up. Now we all interpret

756
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: like this life aspect of like being better. No, I'm out.

757
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: I'm out.

758
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: Hey if I would, if I wanted you to be introspected,

759
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: I go pick up a Paul Quayler book. You know

760
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like man, just turning the alchemist out here.

761
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: But so I way deep in animal. Yeah, give me

762
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: your top three you said it was.

763
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 4: I would say attack on Titan one, pieces number two

764
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 4: and then just because of nostalgia and kind of what

765
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 4: got me into it is No. No, I know, I

766
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 4: know is a little mainstream, but I feel like it's

767
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 4: mainstream for a reason. It's it's legit.

768
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm okay with mainstream. I started off. I started

769
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: off with Gunnam Wing back in the Gap.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like my older cousins watching it,

771
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: I said, oh, dang, they fighting in space.

772
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: I need that.

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00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as they got hands. I'm not here

774
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: to argue. Man, Like I said, I appreciate. I appreciate you.

775
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: Oh that's right.

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00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: You do you have a kid coming?

777
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, we're expecting in March.

778
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I see I seen that on I g

779
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: I said, day said, boy just got married.

780
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: I said, okay, grow up. But you know I finally

781
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 3: made it.

782
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 2: Hey, man, congratulations, I'm not eve gonna ask if it's

783
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: a boy a girl yet.

784
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna pray as a boy. We're not going

785
00:32:54,800 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 3: to find out. Actually, so yeah, okay, Bakers Born, I

786
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: love it.

787
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: All you can do is pray for play for a

788
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: healthy kid. I needed.

789
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: I needed to know my first one. I was like, yo,

790
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: moment she was prayed, I said, Yo, what can we

791
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: get this blood test? Like I need to know, I said, boy,

792
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: I need to know it's a boy. Right once, we

793
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: had a boy. The next three after that, I was like, yo, whatever,

794
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 2: as long as God bless them with health. Like I'm

795
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: not tripping.

796
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: I got four. I got one boy, and then I

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00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, man, make men.

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Speaker 3: The first yeah, girls.

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Speaker 1: And I got more.

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Speaker 2: I got more love than I've ever needed. Bro, I said,

801
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: every every man deserves a girl. But yeah, sure, what

802
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: did I doss?

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Speaker 1: Big big blessed?

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you stopping by the pod.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: It's nothing, nothing but but hopefully positive going into this

808
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: this uh playoffs for you. I can't you know, I

809
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: only want Black and Gold win a Super Bowl. So

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Speaker 2: I can't say you do that, but I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: Wish you well.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you man.

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Speaker 2: grab it for the sun because he's reaching for the stars.

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