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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast What Am I Doing with My life?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition to the Around the NFL Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by the United States Marine Corps. You're supporting the

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Speaker 1: troops money. My name is Dan Hanserson joined in the

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Speaker 1: room filled with hero as Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosen thought, what is up? Boys? Hey? Dan, I

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Speaker 1: think that's a very healthy thing to just circle back

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Speaker 1: to maybe every other week. What am I doing with

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Speaker 1: my life? Every other week? Hourly every night before bid West?

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Speaker 1: How you doing, buddy? You're trooper. We got a text

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Speaker 1: from you earlier this morning that you were had all

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Speaker 1: sorts of medical issues, you were dealing with um and

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Speaker 1: yet you're here grinding. Yeah. I went to uh, my

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Speaker 1: cancer doctor yesterday. My scans are, to quote him, beautiful,

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Speaker 1: just beautiful excellent party music. But I've come down with

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Speaker 1: a bad quote, and it's made worse by a hiatol

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Speaker 1: hernia that I've been dealing with as an after effect

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Speaker 1: of the surgery. Is that in the butt. No, it's

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Speaker 1: a theosophagus stummach diaphragm region. Why did you need to

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Speaker 1: go there with the diagnosis because I'm not a doctor,

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Speaker 1: so I didn't know what that meant. But I just

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Speaker 1: Jeopardy James is back with the Tournament of Champions, and

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Speaker 1: sometimes you just blurred out the first thing that comes

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Speaker 1: to your mind, and it's right. I thought that was

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Speaker 1: about the butt. It was wrong, because you're usually wrong

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Speaker 1: and changely almost always. With Dan, the first thing that

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Speaker 1: you're hanging in there, buddy, and you are. That's leadership.

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Speaker 1: Yeah to dealing with my heine hernia. A lot happening

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Speaker 1: right out of the game. Uh, you're a warrior. That's

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Speaker 1: that's that's what I would call you. Thank you. Today's

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Speaker 1: show good one. We are going to dig into the

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Speaker 1: news and catch up on the uh big Colin Kaepernick news. Also,

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Speaker 1: a NFL owner speaks out. He's getting impatient and the

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Speaker 1: goat Greg, as you refer to him as many others,

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Speaker 1: get into that. Um. Speaking of unhappy and upset, we're

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Speaker 1: fork in him reboot and Greg, I know that why

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Speaker 1: and I, Um, you know that this was killed. Well yeah,

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Speaker 1: I said that was the hook. That was the huck.

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Speaker 1: When we killed that, Greg, you heard like a drawer

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Speaker 1: was like reading almost like some type of like stenographers

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Speaker 1: Ted McGinley to save the show. Anyway, greg Um, just

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Speaker 1: I'll play in good faith, absolutely. I always that was.

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Speaker 1: on it. Thursday night football preview Indie at Houston. Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's a good one with huge ramifications in the a

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Speaker 1: let it again, Rivers of Quarto Lano, Phannip Rivers. Fourth

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Speaker 1: interception by Philip Rivers. You're fluent, fluent. That was great.

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Speaker 1: raucous Azteca Stadium, sight of some of the great soccer

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Speaker 1: in Chargers Land. It's been a tough year for Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's had terrible protection, which has been the

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Speaker 1: and Mike Florio wrote about it, and they explained it better,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't I don't even feel like having an opinion,

427
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, like being informed enough to talk about that.

428
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 1: But I guess I understood why he decided to do

429
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 1: it as he did it, and it doesn't seem like

430
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 1: it would, you know, totally. I mean that no owner

431
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: could just make a decision down the line. It just

432
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: felt doomed from the very start. It felt from the

433
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 1: time of the announcement, and then when Saturday when you

434
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 1: heard that there was there was a catch here. That

435
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: was all expected because my one thought about the whole

436
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: thing and I you see it from both sides, and

437
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 1: you see there's this trust from Kaepernick's camp towards the NFL,

438
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 1: and perhaps likewise based on the way this was all

439
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: planned out. Um My, my general thought is that I

440
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,199
Speaker 1: came out of this thinking because of the way it

441
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 1: was set up that Kaepernick's mindset it was almost more

442
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let the NFL dictate the terms of

443
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: what this is. I'm gonna show them that I'm in

444
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: control of this situation. This is my story, and I'm

445
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: gonna tell it the way I want to tell it.

446
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 1: And perhaps, and I'm not even saying this is the

447
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: wrong thing for him his mindset, because he's been through

448
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: a lot over the last three years, perhaps he put

449
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: that a war, if you will, with the NFL ahead

450
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: of actually trying to get hired to play football. Because

451
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: there are people out there that took out of this, uh,

452
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: ESPN Stephen A. Smith was a very vocal person and

453
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: on this front that this all felt like just a

454
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: total pr move by Kaepernick in a show that he

455
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: put on to to be in the be in the

456
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: media and and stay as a figure, you know, wearing

457
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 1: the Kunta Kinte shirt and uh, you know, the big

458
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: statement to the press. All that stuff felt like a

459
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: show more than actual guy trying to get hired. Um.

460
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: But that's my feeling is it's just so doomed. There's

461
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: too much mistrust on both sides for this ever to

462
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: end with him getting work again. I don't think he

463
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: plays again. I don't think anything changed. In fact, I

464
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: think it's worse off than it was a week ago.

465
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: I thought all along the number one hurdle as you

466
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: cannot force a team to believe a free agent is

467
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: worth signing. No team thinks he's worth signing. Uh. And

468
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 1: along with Greg, I've had some level of optimism before

469
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: the change of venue that some leader among the coaches,

470
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: among the GM, some leader out there says, I'll take

471
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Speaker 1: the disruption to my routine, these people being strong creatures

472
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 1: of habit during the football season, I'll take it on

473
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Speaker 1: me to change my routine to have that disruption during

474
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Speaker 1: the week. I'll go on a limb and do it.

475
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: And then he changed the venue, made it a headache

476
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Speaker 1: for everyone. And I don't see any point where someone's

477
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: gonna say this guy is worth signing. He to me,

478
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: he's even less worth signing now after what happened with that. Well,

479
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: I think what should inform all of this is something

480
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: you know, people are like, well, what changed. You know

481
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: he's been out of lake for three years. Well, here's

482
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: what changed. The NFL and Colin Kaepernick agreed to a

483
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: settlement that in a case where the NFL was being

484
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: alleged to collude against providing him employment. That's what happened

485
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: this year. So I don't know why happened this weekend

486
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: versus some other time during this year, but that to

487
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:17,239
Speaker 1: me informs everything between these two sides. Like that, I mean,

488
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: there's there is no other player like people like well

489
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,719
Speaker 1: could other veterans like, there is no other player like

490
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick in the history the NFL. You're not just

491
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: signing another backup quarterback. You know he's gonna He's gonna

492
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: be Colin Kaepernick. That's who you would be signing up for.

493
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: What's not changed, though, is that you have thirty two

494
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: owners and I this is just my personal belief, there

495
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: isn't one among them right now that wants the distraction

496
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,959
Speaker 1: and the sponsorship hit and other things to come along

497
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: with bringing Colin Kaepernick in at this point, who's not

498
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: a starting quarterback necessarily, there are a lot of coaches

499
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 1: that are not gonna want to go fight that battle

500
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 1: with their own owner. If it was gonna happen, it

501
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: would happen when to me in the off season when

502
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: the ross there's are ninety men and things are just

503
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: a little different than right now. Who even needs a

504
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: backup quarterback right now? Where they're gonna make this burning

505
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: the host headline Houston Texans, Well, I mean they You

506
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: saw a J McCarron in a game last week. Um,

507
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 1: all right, let's move on. We mentioned David Tepper, he's

508
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:24,719
Speaker 1: the Panther's owner, and he spoke on Monday after the

509
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: team's loss to the Falcons and ugly loss to three

510
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: UM that dropped the Panthers to five and five, their

511
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: second straight loss. There's also um, you know, really bad

512
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: loss to the Niners that's really kind of put into

513
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: focus h that this is kind of a team that

514
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: might be mediocre. And David Tepper, the owner who bought

515
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: the team a couple of years ago, UH told reporters

516
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 1: that his mood is to use his word every time

517
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: they lose, and he added that he does not want

518
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: to have a mediocre team. Mediocrity is not what he

519
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: wants the Panthers to be associated with. It's been that

520
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: way for too much of the team's history. Um, Mark,

521
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: what did you take out of these comments? He also

522
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: left the door open for um Cam Newton remaining with

523
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: the team. But this does sound like a guy now

524
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: that he's got his you know, his feet on the

525
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: ground with this job, that might be ready to make

526
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: some noise. I think David Tepper is one of the

527
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: new wave of owners who is UH can have come

528
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: from a different place than some others. And this is

529
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: the moment where in a season with a team that's

530
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: been swirling in questions about what will happen with Ron Rivera.

531
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: Oh and now everyone just assumes Cam Newton's out the door.

532
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: The owner is saying, I don't speak much, but when

533
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: I do, I'm gonna remind you that everyone here serves,

534
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: as they say, in the White House, at the pleasure

535
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: of the owner of this company. And he was a

536
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: very active business owner. And you know, you have these

537
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: guys that buy teams as a plaything to invite their

538
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: friends to and sit up in the box, and they

539
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 1: want nothing to do with the football side. David Tepper

540
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: has never struck me as that at all. He is

541
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: hands on now, not in a necessarily met us some way,

542
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: but in a way where he knows has his own

543
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: strong opinions about what he's observed with Ron Rivera where

544
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: the team's at right now, and certainly on the Cam

545
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: Newton front, saying no one's gonna tell me what happens

546
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: with Cam Newton. I'm gonna tell you. Yeah. He might

547
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: have been sending a message there of how these reports

548
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: get out. Reading between the lines. He did, you know,

549
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: clean house immediately with the Panthers on the business side

550
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: of things, and you know it's not something that we cover,

551
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: but he changed out a lot of people, brought in

552
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 1: his own people, and the continued mediocrity line is the

553
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: one that apparently he hit multiple times during the interview,

554
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: and it reminded me that the Panthers have never had

555
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: winning consecutive winning seasons in the history of their franchise,

556
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: which includes the nine years Ron Rivera has been there.

557
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: He's gone win, you know, winning season, losing season basically

558
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: every year since two thousand twelve, after starting with two

559
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: straight losing seasons, and that spells trouble, you know, because

560
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: it's not like Rivera's defense is is playing sensationally. These

561
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: comments alone make me just believe that Hernie and Rivera

562
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: are gonna be gone unless they, you know, win six

563
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: straight games. Here also makes me thinks Kyle Allen will

564
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: not be the quarterback because what is he if not mediocrity? Well, yeah,

565
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: at no point have I yeah, I have liked I

566
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: liked watching Kyle Island, but I thought his best case

567
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: scenario is competing with someone that probably has a better

568
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: chance to be the start right here. Uh. In other news,

569
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots beat the Eagles seventeen ten, a

570
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: game where their defense stepped up and shut down Carson

571
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: Wentz and company. We you know, things move very quick

572
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: for us on Sunday, uh into Sunday night when we

573
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: tape our show, So I didn't. I didn't see. I

574
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys that I didn't even see

575
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: the Brady comments. But it became a story on Monday

576
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: about how dejected he was after the game, upset about

577
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: the play of the offense. Uh, so far this season, Ricky,

578
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: we have a little bit of that up and down.

579
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: That's what it looks like to me. So, yeah, we

580
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: probably do everything better. Yeah, well, we just played for

581
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: three hours, so I think everyone's a little tired. And

582
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: then they also asked him, Uh, what does he think

583
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: will get the offense on track? I don't think it

584
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: matters what I think. That's what we do. And then

585
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: he's on the radio the next day doing one of

586
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: his spots on the Greg Hill Show that I didn't

587
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: know that's the thing he does. Uh. He said the

588
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: strength of our team is our defense and special teams,

589
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: which I don't know. Mark, Does it feel like we're

590
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: this is a ropadope situation or do you think he

591
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: really is? Is this maybe a late period Peyton Manning

592
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: thing where I'm I'm passing the torch on what makes

593
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: this team special? What what's going on? Break it down

594
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: from me, Mark, as only you can please mark, how

595
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: is yours? A few times? You got Tom Brady to

596
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: get this agitated. I don't like the next team coming

597
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: in to play the Patriots typically, I I this is

598
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: but is it's? Is this still? Is this different than

599
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: all the other years? Because different at all? Well, to me,

600
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: it's factually different that their efficiency in their offensive production

601
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: is average for the first time in sixteen seventeen years.

602
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: So when he spoke on Monday, I did listen to

603
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: that too, and his tone was much different on the

604
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: Greg I was not aware of it, but I do

605
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: know he's been on w E I and I guess

606
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: they've changed their programming. I wasn't. I had never heard

607
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: of it either. Uh. And he had a different tone,

608
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: which was talking about complementary football, saying we want a

609
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: super Bowl thirteen three and that was good. We lost

610
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl three. Uh, that wasn't good. So I

611
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: don't know how many points I'm gonna need. It's a

612
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: complementary game. And I do think he's, you know, distraught

613
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: and disappointed. You come out of a bye week in

614
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: the Eagles defense handed it to them, and he wants

615
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: this offense to be great because he's not used to

616
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: coaching a mediocre offense. Then again, I do think what

617
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: he's saying about complimentary football informs what they do. He

618
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: doesn't throw interceptions, He gives up on plays amazingly quickly.

619
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: I mean, he does not risk anything. They are fourth

620
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: in the league and fewest turnovers, uh, and that's largely

621
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: because of Tom Brady. He doesn't take sacks because he

622
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: doesn't really take hits. He doesn't take interceptions. Aaron Rodgers

623
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: plays a very similar style. He's much more athletic, but

624
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: he plays a similar style. You know, he's not trying

625
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: to put the defense in a bad situation. I believe

626
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: that that he is kind of playing to the defense

627
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: where he's not being as aggressive because he knows they're good.

628
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: But that's gotta be humbling, and he doesn't want it

629
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: to stay that way. When you're used to rolling up

630
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: points with Rob Gronkowski every year, they usually pick up

631
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,959
Speaker 1: steam in December, and last year was they found their

632
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: running game with Sony Michelle, and they were putting over

633
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: a hundred on everybody to complement that defense. And I

634
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: think that's what you're talking about with complementary football. The

635
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: running games the worst I've seen Isaiah went back who

636
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: was the most talked about two games played in his

637
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: life left tackle. I've ever heard Shack Mason played way

638
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: better what you got, Marshall Newhouse. Every week out there,

639
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: you're just like, okay, Hopefully a first round pick can

640
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: help you get improvement out of Shack Mason, and you

641
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: get Isaiah win back, and maybe Sony Michelle starts making

642
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: people miss again. Maybe you get a running back, maybe

643
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: you get a running game. Who knows? Can you can

644
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: you give me one? Now? Can you give me the

645
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: floors yours? Dan? The floor is now yours? He gone?

646
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: How many times have we done this? This is the year.

647
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: There are whispers and then we've talked about our show

648
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: that he is And I wanted to retire at Angeles.

649
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: They've they've won enough. I don't want to see any

650
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: uh any bad fine years. Just leave that is fine.

651
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: That is the high water mark of like descending Patriots

652
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: fandom just want Tom Brady to retire any other team,

653
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: and I just don't want an ugly end. I don't

654
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: think they could win without you know, they could certainly

655
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: win when he's gone to why off the Super Bowl

656
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: win where he he looked fine in the playoff. For

657
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: the most part, he's not the same guy physically. Would

658
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: you want him gone? I mean that just seems a

659
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: little bit like you've been given too much as at Yes,

660
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: of course they've won too much. They've achieved it all.

661
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: Let's move on to the next era, moving on to

662
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: the next Patriots story. Gronk will not be there to

663
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: help out Tom Brady this season. He had a you know,

664
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: a painfully transparent announcement scheduled for nine am uh this morning,

665
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: and as pretty much everyone expected, it wasn't an announcement

666
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: that he'd be coming back to the NFL, but rather

667
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: that he is in the business of partying. Let's listen

668
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: to a little bit of that. This is a bad

669
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 1: game plan, bro, you're still in the pro party career. Listen,

670
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 1: this isn't just some club event. This is a possible

671
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: center around from you. You can turn it down a

672
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: little bit, Ricky, but keep it up. I just I

673
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: get it, Gronk. I get it, Like you're you're a businessman. Now,

674
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: can we stop hammering this? So it's like Kyle Shanahan

675
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: with the flat brind cat. So we're talking about it.

676
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: It's no, but it's like does anyone want you to

677
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 1: talk about more that he's not just a football player,

678
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: he's a businessman. We get it. Enjoy your party. That's

679
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: what this is. It's a Gronk party at Miami for

680
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Kevin Patra tweeted at me, said, are

681
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: you going to resurrect the super Bowl party beat, which

682
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: I once once covered for this website. I will not be.

683
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: I will not be at the Gronk beach getting some

684
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: firefest vibes from Oh that would be so gronk fest.

685
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: Just people people stranded looking for food. Are you dang?

686
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: You've given up on the idea that he's coming back. Yeah,

687
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: I'm taking the l on that. But you know what,

688
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 1: I still even when when I made the sandwich prop

689
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: that Gronk will play by December, I knew it was

690
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: a win win situation. Either I lose a sandwich or

691
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: Grounk doesn't play, and I don't. Never you never actually

692
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: exchange sandwiches, you does anything. Um And one more note,

693
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: he does set at the say at the end of

694
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: that infernal video that he uh, he's done playing this year,

695
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: so he'll be back with the Patriots next year. I'll

696
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: put another sandwich on that I'll double down. Maybe he's

697
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: taking a look at that New England offense and saying

698
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a part of that, and

699
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: it would take me on a sandwich. Why not this year?

700
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: What a goober um a chooche he is? Uh, you

701
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: take me up on that? Doesn't have to be with

702
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: the Patriots. And he's playing in the NFL next year.

703
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: He said, he's a business man. That's what that comment was.

704
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 1: Maybe next year or whatever. I'll take you on that. Okay,

705
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean, why not playing next year? I'll take you

706
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: on it. That's a win win too for me. You know,

707
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: he comes back, that'd be great. Finally, in the news,

708
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: this also popped up Sunday that the Redskins had a

709
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: disheartening loss to the Jets at home. Greg, you mentioned it.

710
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: Uh there was even a THOMASO wrote a column calling

711
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: it the low point in the team's history. Nobody at

712
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: the game that they've lost us the city. Uh. Well,

713
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: it got worse because there was a sideline video that

714
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: kind of went viral by the local NBC affiliate down

715
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 1: there that showed Dwayne Haskins, who's obviously had a tough

716
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: go of it so far in his rookie season, he

717
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: doesn't have a lot of help um imploring his teammates

718
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: as he's taking a beating against the Jets. I think

719
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: he was sacked five times. What can I do to

720
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: help you? What can I do to help you? And

721
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: the lineman for the most part, and just kind of

722
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: sitting there. And that led to a lot of speculation

723
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: greg both ways that this was a bad look for Haskins,

724
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: This is a bad look for the Redskins. Well, we

725
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 1: are the offensive line. We don't really know the whole

726
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: story between the interaction and everything around what's going on

727
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: behind the scenes there. But in general, it's just yet

728
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: another kind of this is uh, not a great time

729
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: in the history of the Washington Redskins. I don't know.

730
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: I thought it was faster. You're gonna say it's a

731
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: great time in the history of the No, no, no,

732
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: I just mean the video. The video I didn't put

733
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: any higher, wasn't wasn't great. I felt like I needed

734
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: to know more about the context. I didn't have any

735
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: like hot takes, good or bad. I just found it

736
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: interesting to watch. I think that like great great podcast

737
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: s fodder, But like, I don't know, I feel like

738
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: I need to know more like of their relationship, and

739
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: that's maybe that's a pretty happened. I put this on

740
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: par with what Greg has said about telling teams what

741
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: they should do with injured players. The disconnect between what

742
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,959
Speaker 1: you're seeing thousands of miles away on a video out

743
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: of context, versus what's going on on a sideline during

744
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: the game. You can't make heads or tails of it.

745
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: I think I don't think you can sit there and

746
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: and translate what's going on on. It was one where

747
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: I wanted to hear what ex players said, and interestingly,

748
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: there were I feel like equal people on both sides

749
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: who thought it was great and or thought it was

750
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: terrible that you have to earn that and a whole

751
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 1: damn it. I maybe this maybe someone it's a veteran

752
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: teammate right now with Morgan Moses said that it was

753
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: him just trying to figure out because we're a veteran

754
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: group what we've got. You're looking at me, you want

755
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: me to come up with a different take that He's

756
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: also I don't need anybody on my side on this.

757
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: I saw it. I don't think it's I. I don't

758
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: think it's I think that that Redskins have been an

759
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: absolute train wreck. They are running the most bland offense.

760
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: That dude that does nothing to help with rookie quarterback,

761
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: and he was probably out of his shell trying literally

762
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 1: trying to plead with these guys, let's wake up and

763
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: and get some advice. So what did you see, Dan?

764
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: An offensive line that wants nothing to do with that quarterback.

765
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that. I don't want to

766
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: say that. I just thought in general, there was there

767
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: seemed to be. There wasn't a lot of passion, there

768
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: wasn't a team working together thirty four to three at

769
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: the time it was, And there was a telling moment

770
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: to watch the video at the very end, Haskins pleading

771
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: for any type of feedback. He gets very little of it.

772
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: There's even a linement that Greg you even said yourself

773
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: looked like he kind of rolled his eyes almost there's

774
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: one guy who was really just kind of but that's

775
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: not a good look. And then at the very end

776
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: of the video, Haskins essentially just turns and almost in

777
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: a dejected uh way bodyline, who drives walks away. It's like,

778
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: I went to these guys, how can we fix this?

779
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: How can can I help you in terms of the protection,

780
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: get the ball quick, or make better decisions. There was

781
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: no back and forth about how do we fix this,

782
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: and he just walked away. Nothing solved, although they did

783
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: score ports right, and they'd score the next couple of

784
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: times they have. If having a co worker like disinterested

785
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: in what you say was a like a killer flaw,

786
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: like I would have been out of this company about

787
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: fifties thousand different times. Right. I think in that situation,

788
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: thirty four to three, after a long season in a

789
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: long decade, any rookie quarterback, no matter is personality or whatever,

790
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: in that situation is going to get the same treatment.

791
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 1: I usually have interesting things unless you start talking about tennis.

792
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: That's the only time I kind of start to you know, dude,

793
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: I guess maybe you're on a thread. Were like the

794
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: Jets are quarterback records and they you know, they go

795
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: from city to city destroying offenses. I'm not sure I'm

796
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that either. Uh, I don't. I

797
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: don't know what that means, but uh, it is a

798
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: bad sign when the Jets are wrecking you in the

799
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: backfield because they can't get any a great sign. All right,

800
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: it's back Maybe for the last time ever. So make

801
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: sure you enjoy this everyone. Um. Greg had detailed copious

802
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: notes of that he he had he had ended it.

803
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: He tried to get us to sign a contract, and

804
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: we weren't comfortable with I don't know what you're talking about.

805
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: So we moved. We moved the conversation, UH to another room.

806
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: It's this studio. It's stick a fork in a reboot.

807
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm just happy to remember something better than someone else's.

808
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: I first, so what is As I said at the

809
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: top of the show, this is when we go through UH,

810
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: we go through the league and we make a strong, strong,

811
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 1: strong declaration that a finite decision. Does that make sense

812
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: that their season is over? When we bring up and

813
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 1: and we had to when we did it. We would

814
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 1: occasionally bring up, you know, just one or two teams

815
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: a week and have a long discussion. We're pretty deep

816
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: into this podcast. The key though, was it had to

817
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: be unanimous, because it's got to be in it. That

818
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: was to what There was a lot of a lot

819
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: of hurt feelings over the year. You know, it's tough

820
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: to get that unanimous agreement. I can already tell you

821
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: how this can go. Mark and I any team that

822
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: is borderline boring to watch. We want them forked, and

823
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: Greg's can all right, let's see how let's see how

824
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: it plays out. And I'll use uh the Power rankings

825
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: as a guide here, So, uh, we'll start twenty to

826
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: thirty two. Bengals, Redskins, Giants, Dolphins, Bucks, everybody in favor

827
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 1: of the fork. Yeah, Bengals officially eliminated Cynthia Freeland three

828
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: and seven. They're done. Cynthia's coming on Thursday, right, He's

829
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: joining us on our recap, so you know, we can

830
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: break that news. She said that she had to put

831
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: that the Bengals had a one percent chance and all

832
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: the teams at the bottom had a one percent chance

833
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: going into last week, even though they had zero percent chance.

834
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: That the NFL was making her say that there was zero,

835
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: you know, even though the maths said, if you round

836
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: it down, you're rounded down to zero. To ask her

837
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: about that, to me, is so they had no chance.

838
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: A while back they asked her to compromise her model. Wait,

839
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: so it wasn't zero, it was yeah, it was like point.

840
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: It was like point you know, one or point oh one.

841
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: And so she had to put because I was like

842
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: one percent for the Bengals, that seems high like go

843
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: they were, Oh night, how could it even be one?

844
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: If there's a chance, there's a chance. All right, So

845
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: all in favor of the fork for those teams, says I,

846
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 1: What a what a time it's been as a gamus.

847
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: A lot more debate over the Bengals than I expected.

848
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: Right there, I didn't catch an eye. What's the state

849
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: of you, you know in your fandom for Jamis? Oh

850
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: it's over? Whoa, that's big news. Are you in favor

851
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: of the fork? Yeah? Yeah, good, good? All right? Is

852
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: your daughter is still a fan? Seven is never a

853
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: fan of Jamis? She just like uniforms the name to

854
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: twenty three? We got the Jets. I like that they

855
00:43:53,560 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: got out of this last group that was cute. Cardinals, Lions, Roncoes, Uh,

856
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: Broncos So Broncos, Lions, Cardinals, Jets. I'm in favor of

857
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: forking them all. It would have been interesting if the

858
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: Broncos had finished off that Vikings game had been four

859
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: and six, but they didn't. Gonners everyone they gone they

860
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: go all right, so far, so good, Greg, I thought

861
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: you were going to make your push for the Jets there.

862
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: That's why they got out of the bottom tier. They're not.

863
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: I mean, they're twenty seven out of thirty two. They're

864
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: only one game behind the Browns, who are going to

865
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: talk about I suspect Browns have a tiebreaker on the Jets.

866
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. Next group, although the Browns

867
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: are going Yeah, the Jets are three and seven. It's

868
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 1: pretty tough, all right, Next group, Bears, Falcons, Greg's Falcons. Great,

869
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 1: this will be a real test. Browns, Jaguars, Chargers. Okay, well,

870
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna jump in and say I would fork

871
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: the Bears and the Falcons and the Chargers who all

872
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: have uh Actually, the Bears only have six losses, the

873
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: Falcons have seven, the Chargers have seven. I would fork

874
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: all of them. Despite you know, the Falcons I think

875
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: could make it interesting down the stretch, but they're in

876
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: the wrong conference at three and seven in the a

877
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: f C. The way they're looking, I would maybe give

878
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: them a chance. But right now, the Vikings are eight

879
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: and three and the Seahawks are eight and two. Worst

880
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: case scenario, you need ten wins. I think it might.

881
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: It's probably gonna take eleven wins. I think the odds

882
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: would say you're gonna need eleven in the NFC, so

883
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: even nine wouldn't get it done. Even if they did,

884
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, run the table. They banged themselves with that one.

885
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: That's seventh loss before they've gotten hot. Even if they

886
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: get super hot, it's probably doomed. So I'm surprised, though,

887
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: So you're gonna fork the Falcons in a big spot?

888
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: I will just because I I legit think if they

889
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: win eight straight they're out, which is you know, there's

890
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: still they would need the Saints to collapse. There's still

891
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 1: a way if you do the ESPN playoffs. Yeah, there's

892
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: certainly it can get a second seed. Still, now that

893
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 1: is not happening. I am happily. I'm fine to fork

894
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: the Falcons at this point. Too much self inflicted wounds,

895
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: all right. I am not comfortable forking your Browns yet, Mark,

896
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: I will wait until Sunday night. I noticed Greg did

897
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: not have them on his list of approved teams for

898
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: forky right. I I'm with Dan. I would not want

899
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: to fork them because their schedule schedules Cake. You know,

900
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: if Garrett hadn't been suspended, I think there'd be a

901
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: real feel that they're gonna that they can beat mine

902
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: Miami this week, and that the Pittsburgh game is the

903
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: toughest game they have until they play the Ravens I

904
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: think in week sixteen, so that Pittsburgh game would have

905
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: been the key one for them. I still don't think

906
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: they're out of it, and I also talking about this

907
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: with Mark this morning and looking at the standings. Maybe

908
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 1: eleven wins is what you need to get a wild

909
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: card in the NFC, but we always seem to shoot

910
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: a little high with that. I think attend when team

911
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 1: will probably get in the NFC. That means the vikings

912
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: which could happen, don't vikings in the Seahawks would have

913
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: to go to They'd have to go under the rest

914
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: of them. Don't will out of nine and seven team

915
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: making it in the a f C. I think everyone

916
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: just assumes, oh, you gotta get to ten. But the

917
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: Browns will get to nine and like at four and

918
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: six with a soft schedule. Now, they could also lose

919
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: three in a row right now. I I they're a

920
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 1: hard team to figure out, but they will have uh markets,

921
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: you pointed out to me they played the Bills, so

922
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: they have the tiebreaker on the Bills if they win

923
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: it must win against the Steelers. Basically, if they win

924
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: that game, they sweep the Steelers and they'll have the

925
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: tiebreaker there and then you have a real shot of things.

926
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: But I would add that you've got teams that two

927
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: weeks ago looked like they were heading in the right direction,

928
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: like the Chargers, that suddenly are four and seven and

929
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: heading in the wrong direction. Some of the trash is

930
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: heading downward. In AFC, you need the Raiders and or

931
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: the Bills, one of those teams to to stumble. But

932
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: I think that's very We'll get to the Bills, but

933
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: their schedule is not pleasant. Would you fork the Browns

934
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: was I would not fork the Browns unanimous. A f

935
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: C is two weak and the schedule is two weak.

936
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: Where are we at on the Jaguars, Yeah, I don't trust.

937
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: I think they're playing the wrong quarterback, and I know

938
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: I went back on that and said, I understand why

939
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: they're playing fools, but especially with this offensive line, I

940
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: just like took a lot of hits. Stardner Minsho's playing

941
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: style with this team better. I'm gonna keep them alive.

942
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: I don't feel great about it. This is definitely a

943
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: dirt knap game in Tennessee, where I think on Sunday

944
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: the loser loser goes home, because if the Titans lose,

945
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: they'll have gotten swept by the Jaguars. Jacksonville won that

946
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: game with I'm I'm with you guys in the sense

947
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: that and I'm on record on the spot not being

948
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: as big a fan as you guys are. But if

949
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 1: they if Foles doesn't move the needle in offense two

950
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: weeks in a row, I mean, it might be too

951
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: too late. If they are for I mean their defense

952
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: has to play a lot better, they need a lot

953
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: to do better. But they do not have an imposing schedule.

954
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: They the best team they play the rest of the

955
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: season record wise are the Colts and the Raiders, So

956
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: they really don't play any elite teams. Becauld they get

957
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: on a little run here, I think they could. Their

958
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: season is on the line. Thursday night, you might see

959
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 1: Minshoe at halftime if things were really really going south.

960
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: Sunday Sunday, Sunday Night, Sunday Day, Sunday Sunday. They actually

961
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: they're flexing nugets about broken Down Jack. They're like, you're

962
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: liked one Prime Time Jack's Titans game. Let's give you

963
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 1: a two we're forking the four and seven Chargers. Yeah, everybody,

964
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: I mean Rivers. They're going to kill them. I don't

965
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:25,959
Speaker 1: care who they played. They're going to find a way

966
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: to let's to see them seven and seven next month.

967
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I have to look at the schedule.

968
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: It's just kind of the Chargers way at Denver at

969
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Home versus the Vikings home versus the Raiders at

970
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: Kansas City. That is not what you would call an

971
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: easy schedule. Seven and seven and then lose out. I mean,

972
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: they'll find a way to get your heart back. I

973
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: think they are more I think they're more likely to

974
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: go five and eleven than they are. All Right, you

975
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: got me convinced. I'll fork them, you guys, all right, Mark,

976
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know Dan was gonna I'm happy to fork

977
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: as many teams as we can get consensed. The son

978
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: he's just he's just like permanent four. Well, it's like

979
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 1: we can mathematically get everyone back and vault if we want.

980
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: You still have to pay attention to these games for

981
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: the podcast, though, I have paid attention to every single

982
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: game from the beginning of the year until now. Okay,

983
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,959
Speaker 1: there are no questions about that all right? Well now eight,

984
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: now it gets interesting. This is where the challenge. A

985
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: surprising result to me, that that we decided the Charger

986
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: season is over. Well, I mean I would end it.

987
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: Last said it last. I said before that game they

988
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: needed to win one of those games. They needed to

989
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 1: either beat the Raiders on the road or the Charges

990
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: of Mexico or the Chiefs of Mexico City. They didn't

991
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: do it too much to quote check. Just remember we

992
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: didn't do this to you do all right, Now it

993
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: gets tough. Titans, they're going eighteen to fourteen here um

994
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:50,479
Speaker 1: Titans five and five, Panthers five and five, Steelers five

995
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: and five, Cults six and four, Bills seven and three. Well,

996
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,720
Speaker 1: there's one obvious team here to me that is easy

997
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: to fork. I don't know. I'm gonna see if can

998
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: you guys guess which one. I think it's obvious. It's

999
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 1: the Panthers. They in the NFC. That team, I think

1000
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: what there's just what they got eight and eight would

1001
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: be a good outcome for them. And if I'm sticking

1002
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 1: with my theory that a nine and seven team gets

1003
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 1: into the n f C, well then I cannot eliminate

1004
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: the Titans. Who will go nine and seven as they

1005
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: always do. The Panthers played the Saints twice. The rest

1006
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: of the way they play at Indy, they play Seattle

1007
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: and they played Greg's jug or not the Folcon. We're

1008
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: just we're sticking a knife in two for anybody want

1009
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: to fork the Tytoons, the vision, the good all right,

1010
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Uh, Steelers bad Thursday night. Uh, Rudolph

1011
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: could not have played worse. And that's in that stage.

1012
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: But I'm not ready to fork him. Won't do it now.

1013
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: This is one where I I would I would fork him.

1014
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: I would Uh what is it like an emotional fork?

1015
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of trying to look at the bro and

1016
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: trying to look at the spiteful for just because, yeah,

1017
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: just because, like Mason Rudolph, you know, the story about

1018
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: him is obviously what happened last week, But that did,

1019
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: you know, over shadow us having to watch him play

1020
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: football for three hours before that, which was one of

1021
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: the worst performances we've seen. It was really what you know,

1022
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: it kind of ruined West's moment to crow about how

1023
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: right he was about Rudolf. But I will say that

1024
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: my doctor vaulty narrative by the way. My doctor is

1025
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: a huge Steelers fan, and and he I could tell

1026
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: he was just waiting for me to tell him that

1027
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: everything's gonna be all right. He said, what do you

1028
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: think of our quarterback? And I was like, well, let

1029
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: me unpack this one now. Their schedule is definitely a

1030
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: plus for them, and that's what Steelers fans have been

1031
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: holding on to all year, along with their defense. They

1032
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 1: do not play. They play. The Bills and the Ravens

1033
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: are the only two teams with winning records on their schedule.

1034
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: Uh so they they look at that Browns game and

1035
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: they see a winnable game, just like the Browns. Do

1036
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: you know that Bills as a tiebreaker game? I mean,

1037
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: if they were. The Steelers have damaged me so many

1038
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: times over the years, and it's with they haven't had

1039
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: seasons like this, But you want to count them out

1040
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: in their ultra resilient Yeah, I find a way to

1041
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: to eke back in. So I struggle to fork them.

1042
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: There's still a chance that Duck Hodges will make his

1043
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: way onto the field and save this season. Their defense

1044
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: is the best thing about any of these teams in

1045
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: this in this tiers that they do have a real

1046
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: strength um alright. Moving to the Colts, I think we

1047
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: all agree the Colts at six and four, I think

1048
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: we're done there. First place, the Bills at seven and three.

1049
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 1: How about the Eagles at five and five, because I'm

1050
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: ready to fork them a little bit of an emotional fork,

1051
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: that's all right. For five and five. They can't they

1052
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: can't score, and I don't see reinforcements on the way

1053
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,479
Speaker 1: in Philly, and they're not gonna win. They're not gonna

1054
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: win the division. The Dallas is going to take the East,

1055
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: and then we're right back to the same conversation. At

1056
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: least ten wins is gonna get you a playoff spot,

1057
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: and they're five and five right now. They're gonna go

1058
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: five win five of six to close this thing. I

1059
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys, who you know who have to play

1060
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: in New England. They both have tough games this Sunday.

1061
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: It's a big NFC East game that the Cowboys are

1062
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: in Foxborough and the Eagles have to host the Seahawks,

1063
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: so that you know, that could go either way for

1064
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: for those teams. But I still think the Eagles are

1065
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 1: going to be right in it. In Week sixteen, they

1066
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: they have a pretty easy schedule. The rest of it

1067
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 1: is Dolphins, Giants twice in Redskins. Sandwiched around those are

1068
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: four wins. I think. I think so too. And they

1069
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 1: had nine and they played the Cowboys like if they

1070
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 1: ever won that because definitely lose to the Giants once.

1071
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: And and I think Sunday's game against Seattle's huge to me.

1072
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: That's close to a coin flip in Philadelphia, I think

1073
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 1: they certainly have a chance to win that. I would

1074
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: like to do the emotional fork, but this schedule is

1075
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: too easy. So the Eagles survived, so we cut so

1076
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: so that wasn't the only one game behind the cow Boys, right, yeah,

1077
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: all right, let me read the list of teams that

1078
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: are forked. The Cincinnati Bengals, the Washington Redskins, the New

1079
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: York Giants, the g Man, the Miami Dolphins, top of

1080
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: the Bucaneers, the York Jots, Arizona Cardinals, the Try Lions, Broncos,

1081
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 1: and eyes rolled back into the back of his head

1082
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: when he pin you. Chicago Bears, stop Bears, the Atlanta Falcons, sorry, Craig,

1083
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville's Yaguars, No we didn't kill apologies, the Los

1084
00:55:51,360 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: Angeles Superchary Years. They go the Carolina Panthers say, can

1085
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: you say the New York Jets one more time? In

1086
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 1: that person's get some guying green and get hit damn

1087
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 1: Josh Seph. So there you go. We forked and and

1088
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: Greg has he's taking notes. Hey, Mark, the Browns they

1089
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: gonna make the playoffs. Give us a heart that is accurate? Maybe, uh,

1090
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: if we get any of these wrong, this segment goes

1091
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: away forever. Who does a little jack? Who's most likely

1092
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: to come back to buy us? I don't think we

1093
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: took enough chances? Well we couldn't. We could have forked

1094
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: the Eagles. The Eagles would be the team most likely.

1095
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: You guys, don't want to change your minds on that.

1096
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: Come on, guys, taken interesting in forked the Eagles? No,

1097
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: I don't want to that. That would be the last team.

1098
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: Who there was maybe one team out there that we

1099
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: were a little bold, but not Oh yeah you got

1100
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: now you saved the Steelers. Yeah, I'm not forking. Get on,

1101
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: I've forked to see. Let's do it. Let's get bold

1102
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: fork call of Pennsylvania. Can't do it, won't do it.

1103
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: I could be talked into it too, Bills talked into it.

1104
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: Seven and three just to get the people of Western

1105
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: New York the rams. I mean, this is saying their

1106
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: seas you want to get bold. This is this is uh,

1107
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 1: this is saying the season's over. That's six and four.

1108
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: I'm not working. I would have done it. I would

1109
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: have done it all right before we get out of here.

1110
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: Thursday Night football preview a huge matchup in the a

1111
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: f C South Colts at Texans. UH Colts coming off

1112
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: a win but also a lost. They lost Marlon Mack,

1113
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: who has a fractured hand, and it's the hand that

1114
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: he carries the football with no bueno. Uh so one

1115
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: of their best players. In fact, some people might be

1116
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: I know, not the people in this studio, because you

1117
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: guys like I've never met people more plugged into the sport.

1118
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: But some people might be surprised to know that Marlon

1119
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: Mack is the number five rusher in the NFL. He's

1120
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: had that type of impact on this offense. So he

1121
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: goes out. Now. There is good news, though, Wes in

1122
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: his place a man that ran for a hundred and

1123
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: sixteen yards on nine yards per tote. Jonathan Williams, the

1124
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: old spice rack. Spice Rack pounded the table for williams

1125
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: Uh come draft time a few years back. It's the

1126
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: only name we can extract from him. In a half

1127
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: an hour, six round pick of the Bills, a six

1128
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 1: round performance by spice Rack that day. But uh, yes,

1129
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: he actually he got himself into some trouble as I recall,

1130
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: and then how to try out? Was it with the Jets?

1131
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: And then he bounced spoke to the media. But has

1132
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: been in a lot of trouble. I asked, I did

1133
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: a contact spice Rack about the Donathan williams Uh contact,

1134
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: and he said it gave him some pepper and his

1135
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: step on Sunday he was decided a long sunday of

1136
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: results coming in. Did he need a pep in his step?

1137
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: I think Saturday was probably more the problem. It seems

1138
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: more like a Saturday guy. I feel like if if

1139
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: your wife ever checked your phone bill and saw the

1140
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: same number coming up over and over again, she would

1141
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: be a little bit worried. And they're like, no, no,

1142
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: that's spice Rack. I mean we've definitely never spoken on

1143
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: the phone. Uh, it's like you guys are in contact

1144
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: a lot. I like this phone bill scenario, you know

1145
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: this still existing? I mean, then it happened to me.

1146
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: But can you imagine I don't know. I can't speak

1147
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: for you guys, but that was like a number one

1148
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: way to get busted if you were being h you know,

1149
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm pure relationship. Yeah, you have a well or I

1150
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: would even say going back to when like you'd have

1151
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: a long distance girlfriend in the early high school period

1152
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: and suddenly the parents like, why are there a hundred

1153
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: and two charges to Glastonbury, Connecticut? Because I love her?

1154
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: That didn't That didn't hold much water. Um Anyway, thoughts

1155
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: on this game. It's hard to preview this game because

1156
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: there's so many names up in the air, starting with

1157
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 1: wide receivers. T Y Hilton, I believe is not practicing

1158
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Will Fuller is not practicing for the Texans

1159
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: on Tuesday to keep components. I mean, t Y Hilton is,

1160
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: I mean, along with Quentin Nelson the most important player

1161
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: on this offense. I think i'd give him a week.

1162
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: I know I'm not allowed to say that around these parts,

1163
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: but rushing a guy back for Thursday night when he's

1164
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: not right is almost a almost always a recipe for

1165
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 1: exits the game early in the second quarter. I bet

1166
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: he wants to play because he always destroys these believable

1167
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: numbers against Jackson all lifetime. And you know, this is

1168
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: a game that Indianapolis. At an earlier point in the season,

1169
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: we thought this division was going to kind of start

1170
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: going towards the Texans. They came into Indianapolis with the

1171
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: head fullest team and they got beat, which happens a

1172
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: lot with the Colts have surprised us. The Texans are

1173
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: coming off a very concerning performance. I mean, Deshaun Watson

1174
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: that terrible game against Baltimore. I think it's okay, like

1175
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: great players can play poorly. He was inaccurate. It happens,

1176
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, he was inaccurate, and more importantly, I think

1177
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: like the communication on the offensive line of recognizing where

1178
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: pressure is coming from. They were pretty scrambled up front

1179
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: of of knowing where the pressure and a lot of

1180
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: those sacks were on Watson. Maybe it's just a one

1181
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: game blip. I just worried that this Texans defense does

1182
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: not have enough juice, which is why I don't feel

1183
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: confident in picking them. Even you give him a little

1184
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: edge at home, but if you take out J. J. Watt.

1185
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: There's a stat on ESPN called pass rush win rate

1186
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,439
Speaker 1: when he's not on the field. They are thirty feet

1187
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: in the league in terms of past the rush win rate,

1188
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: and I think Bengals are the only team that's worst. Yeah,

1189
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: the Texans also, they were battered in that loss to

1190
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: the Ravens. Justin Reid concussion, Mike Adams concussion, Lonnie Johnson

1191
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: a bad ankle injury. I when I go back and

1192
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: look at what happened the first time, along with some

1193
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: of the offensive numbers, was Darius Leonard doing what Darius

1194
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: Lennard does. Ten tackles and a game clinching interception and

1195
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: being a total difference maker. And he's healthy right now,

1196
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: and he's the kind of guy that I could imagine

1197
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: on TNF blowing up. Yeah. He he spoke about it

1198
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: that he's come on really strong. He had a tough

1199
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: start to the year, made a lot of mistakes, was

1200
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: getting beaten coverage with struggling. He admitted it. And he

1201
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: has been on fire the last couple of weeks. So

1202
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: as Justin Houston, they do have some players coming along

1203
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: on the Colts defense. Justin Houston was a home run signing.

1204
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: He's been fantastic that She's had a sack every week

1205
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: for the past five weeks, though presented four touchdowns the

1206
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: last time that wasn't a long fifteen to four touchdown

1207
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: interception ratio. You know he's crafty in the red zone.

1208
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: Give to Gubby brissets him left. I thought we don't

1209
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: count those stats around these parts, touchdown versus interception. Since

1210
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: when I thought those were stats that we don't look

1211
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: at to judge whether quarterback's playing well, I count them, said,

1212
01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: I was told that last Thursday. When the film tells

1213
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: you drastically different than with the numbers, trust your no

1214
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: and none of us remember it that, So you gotta

1215
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: give us a Mason Rudolph. I think he was eleven

1216
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: and two going into that. Yeah, well that was that

1217
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: was clearly not matching what the film was showing. Um alright,

1218
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: so one quick quote, which coach? Which coach do you

1219
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: trust that this game is type Frank Reich, Bill O'Brien.

1220
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: I bill O'Brien got out coach last week. I like

1221
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien is a coach a lot got out Lamar

1222
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: Jackson in my mind, I don't know Bill O'Brien not

1223
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: liked around these parts. I understand that. I just said,

1224
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: I like Bill O'Brien a lot. It's that's why it's

1225
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: leg it's a legit question. I'm not just setting that

1226
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: that was just happened to be a one two punch.

1227
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like getting into another Bill O'Brien argument.

1228
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: But no, I love the Texans in this game. Like

1229
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: Frank rich a lot, great coach, but I I don't

1230
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: trust the Texans as much as I would have liked,

1231
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: would have thought about a month ago. But also J J.

1232
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: Wattexon in the line of really is shaking my confidence

1233
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: with them. But I still think at home in a

1234
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: game they really need. I think Watson coming off a

1235
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: game where he played poorly, he loves it in prime time.

1236
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: I think we get a big Watson game. I was

1237
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: I was leaning towards maybe locking this up. I'm not

1238
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: going to, but because they are a little up and

1239
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: down right now in terms of the season. But I

1240
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: love the Texans this game. Anybody else, anybody else agreed

1241
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: with me or I'm gonna have to pick this game

1242
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: because I have to do it for game picks, and

1243
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: I will take the Texans. I don't feel great or

1244
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: just outright now. I think it'll be closer. I think

1245
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: whatever it is the Texans or decent favorites, I'll make

1246
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: it a one or two point. Yeah, that's the way

1247
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: I even be on the show at this point. Split

1248
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: the I'm going Houston because they are gonna split with

1249
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: the Cults. There's no way they're getting swept by Indianapolis.

1250
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: It's gonna feel too lopsided if all four of us

1251
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: go with the Texans, because it feels like a coin

1252
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: flip game. But I don't trust the Coults firepower. If

1253
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: t Y Hilton doesn't play and Marlon Mack doesn't play, right,

1254
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: I like looked up as how do they score thirty

1255
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: three points in this game? Thirty five points in this game?

1256
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: The Calts. It's always it's always a mystery. I guess

1257
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: it's the offensive line, it's the coaching. The defense is

1258
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 1: a little better than the sum of its part. Make

1259
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: here's what I like for the Texans. Seemed to break

1260
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,439
Speaker 1: down every third game. Yeah, how how about let's see

1261
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: some deep Let's see some deep shots that DeAndre Hopkins.

1262
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: This has been a team that does not have a

1263
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 1: vertical element, which is shocking to me because Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: throws such a great, great deep ball but it just

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Speaker 1: hasn't been there for them. Will Fuller is always so

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Speaker 1: much more important to that offense than you think he

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Speaker 1: would be. All right, let's got some plugs in Greg

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Speaker 1: the debrief debrief, I mean, it depends how you want

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Speaker 1: to say it. I would go debrief, Yeah, NFL that

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Speaker 1: What was the hook of the debrief this week? It

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Speaker 1: wasn't really a hook, just kind of some some take

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Speaker 1: place good uh Week twelve takeaways? Who's number one? I do?

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Speaker 1: I have? You know, Russell Wilson Lamar. I think there's

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Speaker 1: a nice gap there after those two. But I have

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Speaker 1: Dack number three, Aaron Rodgers four, and let's throw in wide.

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Speaker 1: We're seever Michael Thomas of the New Orleans Saints defenses. No,

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Speaker 1: he's coming. They can't stop him. CMC out of the

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Speaker 1: top five entirely now that hurts, But I guess Michael Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I was like, why did Michael Thomas like my article?

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Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, someone someone let him know

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Speaker 1: he's mentioned there. Mark Sessler on my radar, what a column?

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Speaker 1: And you are what? I like what you're doing lately?

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Speaker 1: Mark um More high concept ideas of late and what

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Speaker 1: is it this week? I mean we are. We're deep

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Speaker 1: into the year, so I have to come up with

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Speaker 1: reinvent the wheel every week, it seems like for something.

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Speaker 1: But I came up with something called the joy Meter,

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Speaker 1: which goes from zero to one, and it's things that

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Speaker 1: are making me extremely in case in some cases me

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Speaker 1: extremely happy. And I did a mia culpa in the

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Speaker 1: sense that with Lamar Jackson, you know, inside of me,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to push against the Ravens and push against

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Speaker 1: the whole idea of them going to the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: a game, and he is too fun to watch, so

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Speaker 1: he got the highest grade. And then I put one

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Speaker 1: out there for the Bears fans who get a four

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Speaker 1: out of one D because it's been about as bad

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Speaker 1: of a season as you can imagine. Good stuff. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give like an eight on the joy meter to

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Speaker 1: the press release that the Ravens released today where Marty

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Speaker 1: Morning Wag, who no longer works for the team, had

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Speaker 1: to go against a Michael Lombardi podcast for you know,

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Speaker 1: making him look like a bad guy for not believing

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Speaker 1: in Lamar Jackson. That's why I get joy out of

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Speaker 1: ridiculous things like this. Okay, West, you got any coming

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Speaker 1: up this week? I talked to my editor. That's my

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Speaker 1: favorite part of the show. What's going on with you?

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Speaker 1: And I'll leave the relationship. Where are we at? I

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Speaker 1: think we're okay. Yeah, yeah, I don't in terms of

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Speaker 1: strength of the relationship right now or joy meter. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty, that's positively joyful. Yeah, Ally and I are friends.

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Speaker 1: I like him. Uh, it might be a comeback Player

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Speaker 1: of the Year candidates this week. Oh, I like that

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Speaker 1: a lot. And um, of course I have the power

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Speaker 1: rankings and Ricky, what about you? Yeah? League one Fantasy

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Speaker 1: League one that's on tonight at Eastern Pacific stream at

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Speaker 1: live more than dot Com, NFL dot com Slash Fantasy

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Speaker 1: League one. You can watch it on YouTube. You can

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Speaker 1: watch it on the NFL YouTube. There's tons of tons

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Speaker 1: of ways to watch it. Very nice. And check out

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Speaker 1: our instagram, you guys. The likes keep coming in. And

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Speaker 1: actually I will post links to all of the guys

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Speaker 1: articles with swipe ups on stories, So check that out.

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Speaker 1: Erica's gunning for that Commissioner's Award, I feel it. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: we've got a dominator and we will after hearing that.

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Speaker 1: We're getting some swipe up action. Yeah, as soon as

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Speaker 1: you guys are like my articles. Move alright, excited, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's go. Is Dan hands is signing off for a

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Speaker 1: quiet storm. That mail man, the old Boss, Hollywood Rick,

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Speaker 1: Hollywood Subcolor til Thursday,