WEBVTT - LISTEN | Jets Game Preview Podcast | Jets at Panthers (S1E1) 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:08.119 Welcome to the first edition of the Game Preview Podcast, 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:10.879 presented by wind Bet. Betting is a team sport bet 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:13.640 together at win Bet. I'm Ethan Greenberg here in the 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:17.480 bet MGM studio, joined alongside Cynthia Freeland in her most 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:20.560 of Beach, California, where it is early in the morning, 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:22.880 So thank you very much for joining us. It's not 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:24.800 too early. I like to be on East Coast time. 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:27.480 I gotta know what's going on. I can't be late. Okay, 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:31.000 fair enough. Well, you know, I'm excited for this podcast 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:33.760 that basically I'm gonna give a little uh, a little 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:36.120 staff shot of wats on tap. Obviously, we're gonna talk 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:40.360 Jets Panthers. We've incorporated Cynthia's numbers throughout the podcast, but 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:43.600 we're also just gonna talk different matchups, the vibes around 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:46.839 both teams, especially this week heading into week one, And 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:49.840 I just want to paint this picture for the audience. 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:52.960 At one forty four in the morning, East Coast time, 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:56.400 there was an email sent from you, Cynthia Freeland, that 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:01.560 had eleven pages, over thirty five hundred words of different numbers, 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:04.080 different stats, and I just want to know, like, how 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:07.839 long did that take to put together. Your girls really 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.880 excited about talking about actual football. So, you know, it's 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.160 been a while. Preseason football was I was glad we 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.560 had it, but Lud, I am ready for some real actions. 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:18.920 So I'm just excited. It's not gonna be that aggressive 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:20.840 every time. But it was a little aggressive, just a 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:24.480 little aggressive. It wasn't it wasn't maybe it was, maybe 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.080 it was, but even even still it was. It's very 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:30.400 beneficial to us, you know, to me cranking out there 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:32.919 or looking at some of these numbers before we start, 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:35.360 I've color coded. If you're watching, you can see some 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.760 of the yellow. We got some orange for the Panthers here. 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:40.399 This way, you know, I can keep the jets in 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:42.920 the Panthers separate. Well, this is what we have, all right, 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:47.480 We're gonna break each podcast down into four downs, right, 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:49.800 so you have first down, second out, third down, fourth down, 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.560 But before all of that, we have our opening kickoff, 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:54.600 and then at the end of the you know, after 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:57.240 fourth down. I guess, you know, this doesn't really make sense, 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:00.440 so maybe we'll incorporate it before fourth down. Are we 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.200 punting or or are we going for it? Maybe we're 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.440 kicking a field goal? If we're feeling spicy. So well, 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:08.600 we'll get there as the podcast rolls on. But let's 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:11.359 just start with our opening kickoff. It's been a while 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.959 since a regular season game has taken place in the NFL. 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:18.560 The Jets last played first week in January, week seventeen. 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.480 Now they're eighteen weeks. This is a completely different roster, 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.960 new quarterback, new head coach, and of course Cynthia you 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:28.280 know in the NFL, of course they're playing their former 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:30.799 quarterback in week one. I mean, you couldn't draw it 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:35.400 up any any more entertaining than this. Listen to me, 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:38.200 this is actually a win, win win. It doesn't often 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:40.359 happen like that. I think it was the right move 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:42.240 for Sam Donald. I think it was the right move 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:44.160 for the Jet. I think it was the right move 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:46.600 kind of for the entire league. This is a great 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.239 first game. This is not a team, it's not a rivalry. 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:52.120 Barely play the Panthers like once every what four years 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:54.680 or something like that, and it's interesting to see, you know, 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.600 how people evolve. So I actually think it's great for everyone, 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:01.120 Like it's it's great TV, it's great excitement for all 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.760 of us. So I'm I'm in I'm all in. You know, 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:05.960 we just went to the one shot. What is over 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.240 your left shoulder and what that says fantasy on it? 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:12.360 Like fantasy? Is it like a Fantasy football trophy? Listen? 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:15.239 You know, like this is the trophy we we play 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.240 in this Fantasy Live league on NFL Network and this 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:21.880 it's it's a monster. It's like it's gigantic. Where else 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:27.959 in my house? Am I gonna put this nowhere? It's gigantic? Yeah, 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:31.840 of course, come on the match. You gotta do it. 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.440 It's huge. It's actually kind of heavy. I'm gonna drop 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.760 it and hurt someone there. You don't don't toss it 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:40.080 like Brady did you know on the boat Graade, No 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.200 want to catch it. But that's the that's the two 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:47.560 thousand twenty league Champion trophy for you, right, yep, I 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:52.000 gotta send my title. And how many teams are we talking? Uh, 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:53.960 there's twelve in that one. And then there's another one 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.560 that we're in with the analytics people around the entire league, 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.480 the actual people who work for teams, and that has 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:01.520 fourteen people in it. So that one's hard to win too, 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:03.560 but last year too, because I've got to get that 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:05.560 dig in there. There's a there's a Giants guy on 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:08.760 our on our team, so maybe he's watching. Okay, all right, 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:12.120 you know what if hey, we we even though they're 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.280 the crosstown rivals, if you're a Giants fan and you're watching, 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:19.600 we appreciate it. We we like all viewership. Right, So 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:22.960 let's start with first down here. You mentioned Sam Donald, 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:26.159 but for the Jets, they draft Zack Wilson's second overall. 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.800 He's the new quarterback for the New York Jets with 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.279 the new head coach Robert Sala. So let's talk about 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.880 Zack Wilson in this Jets passing offense against this Panther's 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:38.480 past defense. And the Panthers have a young defense overall, 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:41.000 and you think about where they started in the first 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.440 round with J. C. Horne in the top ten. But 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:46.560 you know, before we get to the Panthers, you know, 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:48.919 I got ahead of my skis here. Let's start with this. 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:52.279 I found this fascinating you in this is like on 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.320 your first page of notes, your model, which I think 0:04:55.400 --> 0:05:00.960 you said is run like is double ms and capitals millions. Okay, 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:04.640 so eighty one point six million simulations of the regular 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:09.120 season and you have Zack Wilson for favorite for rookie 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:13.040 passing yards and touchdowns, I do over Trevor Lawrence, which 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:16.400 you know whatever, he was drafted second and for versus first. Right, 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:18.800 So the interesting part there is I think this is 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:21.200 actually gonna be a really big strength of the Jets 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.599 if I were looking a little further through the season, 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:25.880 because you got to get the timing and the ability 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.960 to read defenses down. So I'm not suggesting it's gonna 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:30.960 come out every single week and through for three hundred yards. 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:33.680 I have about thirty nine hundred total yards for him. 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:36.159 That's a All projections in the beginning of the season 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:39.279 seemed low because remember everything is kind of put towards 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:41.960 a median, and then every week it either goes higher 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:43.920 or lower than that. So they all kind of started 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:47.080 an average. So for me, Zach Wilson at thirty nine 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:50.320 oh seven, very precise. Here, that's the kind of median 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:54.279 projection that leads all rookie quarterbacks. And that even assumes 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.440 I even pretended that they were going to put in 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:58.840 all the rookies to begin so even Trey Lance, even 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.360 with if Justin Fields were start, Nope, none of that. 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.599 He's number one. Wow. Alright that I actually get Jets 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:08.120 fans pretty excited, especially you consider how Zack Wilson played 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:11.320 this preseason. What did your numbers say about his performance 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.800 in the I guess he only played two out of 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.960 the team's three games. Yeah, really good. So p f 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.600 F Frank's him second and they're grading um. I kind 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:21.240 of do it a little bit different. I use like 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.000 this thing called wind share, which is kind of like 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:27.080 war in baseball or player efficiency ratings in the NBA. 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:28.800 So what I try to do is to see, like, 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.680 what's this average above other people and quarterbacks in those 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.120 valuable positions. So quarterback is always going to have the 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:38.320 highest relative you know, wind share number. So right now 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:42.080 for me, Zach Wilson's actually trending as the number it 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.480 goes with the other numbers as the number one highest 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:48.839 wind share quarterback amongst rookies. So that's ah. I liked 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:52.320 the performance. I also think the fit with Mike Lafleur 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:55.679 is really what drives that why, because what we saw 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.040 from college from b y U film was this really 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:03.160 good play actions, super efficient. He could read defenses using 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.520 play action, especially the type of play action that we've 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.440 seen MICHAELA fleur implement. We saw that in San Francisco. 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:12.360 He was incredible at it, like a ridiculous number. In 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:15.000 the preseason, Okay, I'm not preseason, he had a perfect 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.920 pass rating using it. No big deal, just perfect. But 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.360 I don't expect that to continue because that's just not 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.600 how it works, right, But ultimately it's going to be 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:25.440 a huge source of strength going forward. You know, you 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.760 mentioned the success and this type of offense and for 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.360 Zach Wilson, why Jets fans and why I think the 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.800 Jets ultimately drafted Zack Wilson. This is a part of 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.200 your statute, so I have to give credit where credit 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:41.680 is due. Wilson had a perfect passer rating on play 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:45.280 action passes using outside zone run concepts at b YU 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.600 and you know, the Jets are gonna love the outside 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.080 zone and we're gonna talk about that this show. But 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.400 that just gives you a glimpse as to what kind 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:56.040 of offense the Jets are gonna run. You mentioned you 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:59.160 mentioned play action, Well, how about Corey Davis? Right? Are 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.120 you somebody that really stretched the field last year with 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:05.000 the Tennessee Titans who run a similar offense with Arthur 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.480 Smith last year? Now, in Atlanta as the head coach 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:12.400 to what the Jets are probably going to implement this season. Yeah, 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:14.000 so well, first of all, we have to back up 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:18.520 one thing because I love offensive lineman and I love 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:22.000 when oh lines get better because that makes the whole 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:26.800 thing just look feel be way better. And I live 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:28.880 in southern California. I watched a lot of Alijah Vera 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:32.120 Tucker when he was at USC. That is a huge ad, 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:36.720 like figuratively and literally a huge He's a he's huge, 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:39.440 so it's a it's a huge at And also McKay 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.040 beckson being healthy. We we talked about last season a lot. 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.920 You know, it's all about that old line, the ability 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:46.880 to create some time and space so that you can 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:50.080 run any type of concept, let alone outside his own concept. 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:53.200 So the moves that were made for that old line 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:55.679 a plus. I'm very happy it's all going in the 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:58.800 right direction. You know, you don't fix everything in one 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:01.240 fell swoop. You need to keep working on it. And 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.960 all the ads of Morgan Moses that's a great contract. 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:07.080 These are really like savvy moves. I love. That's how 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.680 you make Corey Davis work. That's how you use the 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:12.839 fact Corey Davis if you look to see what he did. Okay, 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.439 there's a metric that's in the next thing, stats crimes. 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:19.280 It's like route yards per route run. And what that 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.600 means is are you running deeper routes? Are you being 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.320 used a lot? How efficient are you around the fielding? 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:27.559 What what are you doing right? Like? Where where are 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.520 you going? How are you used well? Corey Davis ranked 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:32.320 fourth in that metric, and the three guys in front 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.040 of him, yeah, they were all Pro Bowl. There's nobody deal. 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:36.280 So there's just a lot of utility there that can 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.439 be can be really implemented and once they get the 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.199 chemistry down. And one of those guys, A J. Brown 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.640 is one of Elijah Moore is really good friends. Going 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:47.400 back to All Miss. He's another guy Cynthia that I'm 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:49.560 very excited to see. I mean, if you watch training 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.480 camp every practice before he heard his squad, I mean, 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.240 he was making plays left and right. Doesn't play in 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.880 the preseason, but you look at his numbers at All Miss, 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:01.640 they are just absolutely discuss Let you know, aside from 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:05.440 the analytical numbers, you talk about eighty six receptions single 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:09.040 season school record at Mississippi. Coming after guy's like a J. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:12.400 Brown and DK Metcalf who had immediate success in the NFL, 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:16.160 and yuys, you know just kind of your your standard 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:20.360 NFL receiver. I mean, whatever is in the water down 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:23.760 in Oxford, it's it's some good H two oh. It's 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.240 to quote Adam Sandler and the water Boy, it is 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:29.360 some high quality H two oh. Because Elijah More he 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:32.000 tore up the statue sheet and then he comes here 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:36.040 and he started making place from day one. I like 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.920 everything that was done from the oh line and in 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.200 the past catching situation. I think there, this is a 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:43.240 great You gotta build for the future, and you also 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:44.760 have to be mindful of the present. And I think 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.600 both the OH line and the receiving corps that was 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.120 done with a plus. Like if I were you know, 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.960 I'm grading it right because my brains matter A plus 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:57.720 on both. The interesting thing, look, every single rookie it's 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:00.640 gonna be it's they're gonna use is weird because they 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.840 had a weird last year. Last year was not normal. 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:05.520 And then we have an extra game this year, so 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:07.520 we're gonna look at Ricky's and we're gonna have them 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.200 a little bit of like a mathematical like sort of 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:14.080 asterix there because some didn't play last season, some had 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:18.480 very abbreviated seasons, some had super weird situations, So like 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:20.480 give them a minute to get into the league and 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.680 get acclimated and get everything going, because it's just going 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:25.559 to be it's just going to be a little weird. 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.120 Like the rookies last year didn't have preseason and they 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.199 didn't have any sort of normal training camp at all. 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.280 This year they have more normal when it comes to that, 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:34.880 but they didn't have a normal college season. 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You know, 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:28.280 we were talking a lot about the Jets offense because 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.880 of the new new quarterback, to new receivers. We didn't 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:34.439 even talk about Keeling Cole. But how about this Panther's 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.760 defense because they're gonna go up against a young defense. 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:40.520 Robert Salas said, they're extremely fast. We talked about J. C. Horne, 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.840 who had just a stellar year, even though if you 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:46.160 look at the stat sheet, he didn't really have a 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.760 lot of past defenses. This past season, he didn't have 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:50.880 a lot of interceptions, but he's just one of those 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:52.680 guys where you don't even throw to that side of 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.520 the field because of how good he is. Yeah, stats 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:59.720 when it comes to defensive backs just all over, and 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.760 so linebackers, coverage linebackers too. They don't really reflect the 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:06.080 reality because if if you're getting targeted a lot, that 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.960 means that they don't really respect you. The other quarterbacks 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.160 of the other you know, offensive plaguage, you know they're 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.400 they're throwing it to you. One of the things about J. C. Horne, 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.760 can you see my arm? He has incredibly long arms. 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.920 Sounds weird, but sometimes when you guys get these guys 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.600 who are real, like real long armed, he can like 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:27.160 back down things that are further away from him than others, right, 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.440 and he uses his body control exceptionally well. The Panthers 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.160 really liked him because of what they saw from his 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.199 body control. So he can get closer and in situations 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.319 and kind of scrum it up and be a part of, 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:40.880 you know, knocking people down, even if the status he 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:43.720 doesn't reflect that. So when they were throwing kind of 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.040 to to an area he could get to, then he 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.520 gets to and he just he's just he's like annoying, 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.760 like your you know, your brother would like, you know, 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.560 it's just not touching you, not touching you, but still 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:57.920 touching you. You know, j C. Horne and all the rookies. 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.440 You're gonna have a little bit of an adjustment period 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.439 as one does, right, Like Zack Wilson, to your point, 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.719 played exceptionally well in the preseason. Robert sala has made 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.800 it very clear throughout training camp and to this point on, 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:12.079 you know, the leading up to the first game, like, 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.319 there will be rookie moments, right, not all moments will 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:18.360 be glamorous, So expect that from not only Zack Wilson, 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:21.120 Elijah More also j C. Horne on the Panthers side. 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:25.200 But before um, you know what, I'm gonna save that 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:27.960 question for after second down. So let's move to second 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.960 down here, let's focus on the Jets run game. You 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:33.360 mentioned the offensive line. It all starts up front for 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.200 the Jets on both sides of the ball. But for 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:39.600 the offensive line now with Elijah Vera Tucker at left guard, 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:43.760 Connor McGovern loves this scheme. Kai Beckton entering year two, 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:47.160 the one guy I want to focus on is Morgan Moses. 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:50.360 And as we're recording this podcast, Robert Salis says, whether 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.560 it's Moses or George Fan at right tackle. We do 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.360 not know the answer to that right now. You're gonna 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:57.120 find out when the Jets play on Sunday at one. 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.760 It's Moses. It's Moses. Come on, Cynthia's Jane is Moses. 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:03.360 I mean, I don't know, don't even don't take the bait. 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:07.120 Don't take the bait. This guy's a great run blocker. Especially, 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:10.040 what do you want to do? Oh great, he's I 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.720 don't know. I guess I'm that's my opinion obviously, and 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:14.600 I think you go with like the better talent, but 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.920 you give everyone chance and rotating in a few different 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:21.120 types of looks. That's really smart. So it's not like 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.600 I'm saying that one is bad or whatever. But I 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:27.640 just think Morgans like very underrated run blocker, very highly 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.600 underrated run blocker. So I want to focus on Morgan 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.200 Moses because again I'm pulling up my cheat sheet here. 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:37.160 I think this contrast is interesting. PFF had him the 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:40.400 sixth highest run blocking great among tackles in the NFL 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:45.680 with minimum one blocking snaps, but on the contrary, his 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:49.400 number as a pass protector don't seem to be very 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.240 very good in comparison to the run blocking numbers, where 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.360 he's tied for ninth most pressures allowed among tackles in 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:59.440 two thousand twenty. Okay, let's put a little let's everything 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:04.120 needs con text, right, So sometimes when you get these 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.280 numbers and there you have to rank them, they just 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.160 they are what they are, right Like, if you have 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.200 allow thirty eight pressures, then you allow thirty eight pressures. 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:12.720 That's just what it is. But at the end of 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.280 the day, you have to add in context, who's standing 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.240 next to him, who was he going up against? What 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.800 was the situation were you on? Was it third and 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.800 twenty two? Because it's you know, I think that the 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.200 pass rusher is probably gonna know what's going on where 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:27.320 you were the other team blitzing a ton like, So 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:29.520 you have to put it in context and take that 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:32.360 run blocking and use it in this scheme and realize 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.760 that for the return on investment, if you can get 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.200 him too run block, then you're putting yourself in much 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.360 better situations for more favorable passing situations, so that the 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.200 defense has to stay honest and respect both the run 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:47.240 and the past. Way better way, but everyone's numbers look 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.800 way better if you're balanced. Yeah, and this is this 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:51.200 is why we have you. Right, you give us the 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:53.840 numbers and and you give us the context, because in 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.520 a vacuum the number is not great. But to your point, 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.520 everything does deserve context. And let's say it is Morgan 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:02.760 Moses at right tackle on Sunday at Carolina. What do 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:07.080 you make of this Jets offensive line? Assuming it's fully 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.920 healthy with McKay Beckton at left tackle in year two, 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.360 Elijah bar Tucker Conumer Governed, Greg van Rowden and then 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:16.520 Morgan Moses. This is going to be a challenge this 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:19.600 week because this defense, the way that they've re done 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:21.359 their defense. And by the way, Brian Burns is a 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:25.520 very very good pass Russia. Kind of underrated league wide, didn't. 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:27.800 You don't hear his name kind of popping up as 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:29.720 much as you hear some of the other guys. But 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.240 it'll be interesting because they have a lot of defensive 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.159 looks as well. So it's a young line. They're just 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:38.040 learning how young meaning working together and you know, the 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.200 two most important facets, in my opinion, two most important 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:43.560 people on it are both first or second year players. 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:45.720 So it'll it'll take a minute. I don't think this 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:47.879 is going to be like, it's not gonna be like 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.639 last year, but it's going to be like, it's not 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:52.280 going to be like you know, it's not the Browns 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:54.520 old line, but it is all it is not last year. 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.840 So going in the right direction and then it's gonna 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.840 be it's gonna look a lot better because Zach Wilson's 0:17:59.880 --> 0:18:03.320 any to execute a lot of different things is a 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:06.160 really good fit for who's teaching him, and who you're 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:09.920 taught by is very important. So I think that their 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:13.679 skill sets matching will make the everything will look better. 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.679 Everything will look better. I'm glad you mentioned Brian Burns 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.520 because he's somebody that we should definitely talk about, especially 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:24.199 now that the Panthers have added Hassan Reddick in free agency. 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.960 And the interesting part about Hassan Reddick is that from 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:31.320 two thousand seventeen to two thousand nineteen it felt like 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:35.280 his numbers were decent. Ny explodes double digit sacks twelve 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.520 and a half in two thousand twenty. Then you have 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.399 Derek Brown in the middle. There. Do you like this 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:44.480 Panthers defensive line and where do you give the matchup 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:48.399 advantage right now as we record? So what I like 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:53.000 whenever a team does what the Panthers did. They created 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:56.320 a list of attributes that they wanted to execute for 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.600 so they said, we want to run this defense. This 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:01.840 is our theory, this is what we know how to teach, 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.320 this is what we're good at coaching. We're gonna select 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:07.680 for those things. Speed is one thing that it sounds 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:11.359 really silly, but like they want really fast guys. Speed 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:13.600 that they love that. I know everyone says that, but 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:16.080 not everyone really knows what that means. And they went 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:19.880 for on the pads, on on the field speeds, right, 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.520 so not just like forty times of talking about like 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:26.080 measured speed over the course of actual game footage, So 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.960 they went first speed. I think having a cohesive strategy 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.480 is the best way to sell if we're all rolling 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.960 in the same direction. Boat goes that, how many puns 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:38.679 can I make? Whatever? Like so silly, but but but 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.200