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Speaker 2: So there was a lot of talk in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four about the way that young people voted more for

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Speaker 2: Trump than I think any Republican president since George W. Bush,

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Speaker 2: so significant shift there, especially.

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Speaker 4: Among young men.

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Speaker 2: Those games appear to have rapidly evaporated. There's some new

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Speaker 2: pulling out making the case. Let's take a listen to

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Speaker 2: Harry Enton.

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Speaker 5: He started off this term is net approval rating among

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Speaker 5: voters under the age of thirty at plus ten points. Hey,

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Speaker 5: that's pretty gosh darn good.

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Speaker 1: But you come over. We're now according to CBS.

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Speaker 5: News you gov. This isn't falling into the water, This

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Speaker 5: isn't going underseas. This is going into a deep, dark

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Speaker 5: black hole. Look at that minus forty six pots. That

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Speaker 5: is a shift on the net approval of fifty six

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Speaker 5: points in the wrong direction since February age eighteen to

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Speaker 5: twenty nine. On Trump in the economy. Back in October

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Speaker 5: of twenty twenty four, who did those under the age

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Speaker 5: of thirty trus Harris or Trump? It was Trump by

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Speaker 5: ten points. A corner to the Marquette University Law School, Paul.

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Speaker 5: Look at where his net approval rating is now on

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Speaker 5: the economy minus fifty two points, very similar to what

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Speaker 5: we saw on the CBS News you gov poll in

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Speaker 5: terms of his overall drop in support on the net

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Speaker 5: approval rating, and this minus fifty two varies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just stunning.

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Speaker 2: And Trump's drop among young people, especially among the youngest demographics,

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Speaker 2: vastly outstrips his drop and approval rating from older demographic groups,

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Speaker 2: although he's dropped among every age group. But let's put

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Speaker 2: this next pole up on the screen. This is from

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Speaker 2: Yale polling, and they have it broken out by you know,

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Speaker 2: smaller age demographics, so not just like under forty or whatever.

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Speaker 2: And you can see the single largest drop in Trump's

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Speaker 2: approval from twenty twenty four recalled vote is among eighteen

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Speaker 2: to twenty two year olds. And I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you guys remember this is the same poll and the

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Speaker 2: polster here, the head of Data Science rights that in

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Speaker 2: our last poll, Yale pulling drew national attention for documenting

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Speaker 2: the right word shift among young voters and especially the

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Speaker 2: youngest voters eighteen to twenty two, where they found actually

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Speaker 2: that has now evaporated. You still have more Trump disapproval

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Speaker 2: among thirty to thirty four than among eighteen to twenty two,

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Speaker 2: but that gap is pretty narrow. And like I said,

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Speaker 2: the biggest single shift comes among that youngest age group.

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Speaker 2: I think you know, Cyber, I'm curious for your view

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Speaker 2: on what is going on there. We could see three

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Speaker 2: from the Yale pole as well. In any case, this

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Speaker 2: is again among young voters, and heading into the midterms,

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Speaker 2: huge enthusiasm gap among Democratic young voters far more excited

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Speaker 2: midterms than Republican young voters. So you know, clearly that'll

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Speaker 2: be significant. You did not see that gap actually at

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Speaker 2: the same time leading into the twenty eighteen midterms, which

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Speaker 2: did also end up being good for Democrats. So you

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Speaker 4: But you know, I mean to me, it's a few things.

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Speaker 2: It's a betrayal of the brand of like I'm the

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Speaker 2: outsider and I'm you know, I'm going to fight the

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Speaker 2: corrupt bad guys, and now you're the guy in the

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Speaker 2: Epstein files covering up the Epstein files. I think that

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Speaker 2: Like the people who are the most screwed by the

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Speaker 4: The people who are most.

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Speaker 2: Screwed by that are young people, so it makes sense

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Speaker 1: I think it's very simple.

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Speaker 6: It's economy, Epstein Israel, so those in Israel and Epstein

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Speaker 6: are interchangeable. So economy is what is that things are

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Speaker 6: not getting better is yet broadly people don't have a

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Speaker 6: There's no vision, you know. More recently, it's kind of funny.

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Speaker 6: I've seen some right wing like Matt Walla. She was like,

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Speaker 4: And cut that's it, and cut medicaid right.

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Speaker 1: And it cut from medicaid.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know if young people are paying

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Speaker 6: attention to that one, but like, look, my point has

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Speaker 6: always been about taxes. Is it's about opportunity costs. We

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Speaker 6: where's my first time home buyer credit, where's my you

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Speaker 6: know this, where's my ACA premium?

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Speaker 1: Where's a reduction in my tax here or here?

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Speaker 6: Where is a potential tax credit to help me get

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Speaker 6: None of that happened. So the biggest blown opportunity in

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Speaker 6: the interim you had the ACA problem, which this is

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Speaker 6: very underrated because this is an issue. The ACA things

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Speaker 6: specifically mostly applies to old people who are on Obamacare

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Speaker 6: that elevated the conversation of healthcare. And I do actually

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Speaker 6: think I'm sure you had this experience when I turned

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Speaker 1: You need to first get your health care. You're like,

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Speaker 3: Like that's a kind of a ride of passage for

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Speaker 3: there's no plan or vision. If you're in your mid

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Speaker 3: got four more years to go, that's a huge part

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Speaker 3: of your life of which you don't have any faith

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Speaker 3: things are getting better. Epstein goes to the insider insider

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Speaker 6: Probably supported Trump because they want to blow shit up,

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Speaker 6: and I don't blame them. If you think back to

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Speaker 1: People are fed up, blow the system up. Right now.

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Speaker 1: It went two ways, right, there's two ways that that

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Speaker 6: It could go the current way where everything is kind

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Speaker 1: It happens to be in Washington. That's apparently is the

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Speaker 6: But you know, ultimately, when people say they want radical change,

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Speaker 6: why Zorn is kind of the democratic response to that.

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Speaker 6: So that's fundamentally the betrayal of what it is and

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Speaker 6: then Israel is a huge part of it where prioritize

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Speaker 6: the small country. Tucker always says it best, in my opinion,

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Speaker 6: you just can't have a nation of nine million rule

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Speaker 6: A lot of people get very upset about that. So

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Speaker 6: you put those three things together, you put the internet,

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Speaker 6: you know, and you got to give some credit to

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Speaker 6: the podcast guys and others who people sport Trump.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I think that's a but don't have a stage

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Speaker 6: I'm saying you have to give them credit in terms

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Speaker 6: I mean these guys, they don't have a lot of loyalty.

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Speaker 6: Me you've even got Rogan out there talking about mass deportations, right,

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Speaker 4: I think the AI thing here.

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Speaker 2: I don't really want to hire for this. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to increase their productivit. I'm not going to pay them war,

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Speaker 2: I don't have to train them up. I don't have

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Speaker 2: to deal with that. I'll just throw some more AI

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Speaker 2: But I found that very interesting in terms of the

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Speaker 6: This is swing swing coalition to wit Winge demographic swings back.

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Speaker 6: saw this. There's this new gen Z trend romanticizing twenty twelve.

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Speaker 6: There's also the cost element, like the young social lifestyle

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Speaker 1: My wife asked for five guys. Yeah, I go pick

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Speaker 6: I actually remember when it was twelve, And there's just

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Speaker 4: And then it just turned and.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and all of this, we're gonna get things like

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Speaker 6: Bit some of us still believed naively in our political system.

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Speaker 2: All right, So let's talk about the Texas Senate race,

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Speaker 2: because I mean relevant to the conversation about latinos A,

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Speaker 4: Texas Senate race.

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Speaker 2: Now, Texas is like Democrats white whale or whatever. Is

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Speaker 2: But the woman has a lot of charisma, she has

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Speaker 1: How about this new one.

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Speaker 4: They have their new star, Crockett.

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Speaker 7: How about her?

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Speaker 5: She's the new star of the Democrat Party, Jasmine Crockett.

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Speaker 1: They're in big trouble, but you have this woman Crockett.

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Speaker 1: I watched her speak the other day. She's definitely a

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Speaker 3: Oh man, oh man.

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Speaker 1: She's a very low IQ person.

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Speaker 3: Somebody said the other day she's one of the leaders

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Speaker 4: I think you gotta be kidding.

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Speaker 1: Now, are they going to rely on Crockett's going to

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Speaker 2: So that's the whole thing. Just her of turning to

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Speaker 6: This is just the classic twenty eighteen bullshit. You know,

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Speaker 4: Okay, but do you think it'll be politically affected?

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Speaker 6: when you were talking about the standard left liberal thing, yes,

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Speaker 6: he's trying to go after the new Texas Democrats. So

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Speaker 6: the thing is Texas like Houston suburbs, Dallas suburbs. These

442
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Speaker 6: people are mitt Romney Republicans.

443
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Speaker 1: I grew up with them.

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Speaker 6: They're like Christian but they're you know, like country club,

445
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Speaker 6: they're rich, you know, mostly now they're Democrats. Well, you know,

446
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Speaker 6: the tallar Rico kind of like, I'm Evangelical, but I'm

447
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Speaker 6: a Democrat and you.

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Speaker 1: Know, like, yeah, feel it's very Budha Judge exactly.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, who was Buddha Judge's Cork constituency.

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Speaker 1: Remind me, right, the upper middle class liberal. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So that's who he's going after. The thing is, though,

452
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Speaker 6: is that right now, those same people are radicalized as

453
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Speaker 6: much as like with Boomer shit lib memes. So Jasmine

454
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Speaker 6: Crockett is the logical endpoint of that they hate Trump,

455
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Speaker 6: like there's actually not a lot going on beneath the scenes.

456
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Speaker 6: So Jasmine Crockett is the logical endpoint for the Texas

457
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Speaker 6: Democrat because for a lot of the people there, for them,

458
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Speaker 6: they feel like they live in occupied territory. Right They're like, oh,

459
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Speaker 6: we have a Republican governor and Dan Patrick and all

460
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Speaker 6: this other crazy Ted Cruz and John Corny.

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Speaker 1: We want somebody to stick it to Trump.

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Speaker 6: And so that's why Tallarico again, to me, he's almost

463
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Speaker 6: trying to like over intellectualize the process. She gets it

464
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Speaker 6: stand for nothing, just be against Trump. And by the way,

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Speaker 6: it's gonna work one hundred percent. She's gonna win one

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Speaker 6: hundred percent. And that's what was I mean. I'll eat

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Speaker 6: my words, I guess if tall Rico does win. But

468
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Speaker 6: the thing is, she doesn't have a shot now because

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Speaker 6: at least in my opinion, because what you just talked

470
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Speaker 6: about the core swing demos that Tallarico Crockett, what they're

471
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Speaker 6: trying to do is just take anti Trump energy. What

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Speaker 6: I think the lesson of the Zoron Mamdani campaign is

473
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Speaker 6: is that you have to take anti Trump energy and

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Speaker 6: marry it to something else, and with that you can

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Speaker 6: win over the Trump voter.

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Speaker 1: That is not happening.

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Speaker 6: Beto ro Rourke already ground tested the anti Trump strategy

478
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Speaker 6: in twenty eighteen lost Ted Cruz by two points. You

479
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Speaker 6: will never have that again because now there are still

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Speaker 6: enough Latino republic who made it. Like, not all of

481
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Speaker 6: them are going to swing back right, but even if

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Speaker 6: some of them do so, the margins just don't exist.

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Speaker 6: Like the statewide data is now in and it's very

484
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Speaker 6: clear Texas, even with shifting demographics and all of this,

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Speaker 6: you would have to win over a pretty historic number

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Speaker 6: of these traditional Latino voting Republicans. Not happening in Juder

487
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Speaker 6: Jasmin Crockett definitely not happening under Colin, under Tolerico Colin

488
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Speaker 6: all read by the way, he kind of tried the

489
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Speaker 6: inverse of this, the kind of.

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Speaker 1: Like football he's a football buff guy. I think he was. Yeah,

491
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Speaker 1: he was a football player.

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Speaker 4: He's like he's like a centrist. Yeah, he's Democrat.

493
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Speaker 1: But he tried the like.

494
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Speaker 6: Ohm standing up to Trump and I played football, you

495
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Speaker 6: know that type of thing. That shit didn't work. Like

496
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Speaker 6: Beato is as close as they were ever going to get.

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Speaker 6: That was twenty eighteen. The shifting demos like no, sorry.

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Speaker 2: So let me let me caveat by saying, like, neither

499
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Speaker 2: of these candidates exactly my ideological cup of tea, Like very,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Talergo took Mary Modelson money. He's tried to

501
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Speaker 2: shift his position on Israel. We want to talk to

502
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Speaker 2: him because I want to know more specific about worries

503
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Speaker 2: so gambling. So yeah, the problem with that she's taken

504
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Speaker 2: crypto money, although I don't actually I try to look.

505
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Speaker 2: Her record doesn't seem that bad on cryptom. She voted

506
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Speaker 2: against the Genius Everybody, every Democrat voted against the Genius Act.

507
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Speaker 2: In any case, she took the crypto money, she's really

508
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Speaker 2: not She's really bad on Israel. She's not for medicare

509
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Speaker 2: for all right, So neither of these candidates is like

510
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Speaker 2: my ideological cup of tea. I think in the primary,

511
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Speaker 2: I think you're right right now, the polymarket odds have

512
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Speaker 2: her up fifty one to forty eight, so they have

513
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Speaker 2: it effectively tied in terms of the polymarket odds for

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Speaker 2: whatever that is worth. You already see her garnering endorsements

515
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Speaker 2: from House members. Ayana Presley came out and backed her.

516
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Speaker 2: So that's going to give her some momentum within the

517
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Speaker 2: Democratic Party.

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Speaker 4: And I just have to.

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Speaker 2: Tell you, on pure raw political talent with no ideological valance,

520
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Speaker 2: the woman is a star, like she is a star.

521
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Speaker 4: And I think the reason.

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Speaker 2: Why that launch ad was again not what I would do.

523
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Speaker 2: I would want to foreground affordability and specific plans, et cetera.

524
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Speaker 2: But why it was very politically clever for her is

525
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Speaker 2: because it puts on display her greatest strength, which is

526
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Speaker 2: again triggering the right, which in the same way the

527
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Speaker 2: right loved and still does love the candidates who can

528
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Speaker 2: trigger the Libs.

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Speaker 4: Democrats now are in.

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Speaker 2: A place where if you can get Fox News mad

531
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Speaker 2: at you and you can get Trump coming after you,

532
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Speaker 2: they're like, yes, that is what we want to see.

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Speaker 2: The other thing it does is it cast her as

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Speaker 2: the main character, right. It puts her at like I

535
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Speaker 2: am already at the center of this thing, and so

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Speaker 2: I think she has a lot of strengths. Taalerico. You

537
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Speaker 2: know there's there's something even though there's there's a lot

538
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Speaker 2: that he says that should appeal to me, he has

539
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Speaker 2: this very to me dated dial like part of what

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Speaker 2: was cool about Zoron. Obviously the policy is the most

541
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Speaker 2: important part, but he had this very modern ascetic the font,

542
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Speaker 2: the vertical video, the cuts, the authenticity of it, the

543
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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, it just felt very natural to him.

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Speaker 2: Tallerico's launch ad is him standing in the back of

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Speaker 2: a rusted out pickup truck with the church in the

546
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Speaker 2: background and the Texas flag here and this fake crowd

547
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Speaker 2: gathered around him, and it feels like two thousand and six,

548
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Speaker 2: and I don't know, there's something about it that to

549
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Speaker 2: me is just like off putting instantly. And again it's

550
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Speaker 2: not fair because again this is not about ideological valence

551
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Speaker 2: or like where he stands on the issues. But there's

552
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Speaker 2: a stylistic issue for me with him that I'm having

553
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Speaker 2: trouble overcoming. And I think maybe it is also like

554
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Speaker 2: lingering Pete boodagesch trauma, because Pete also did the like

555
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Speaker 2: sort of had a similar stylistic approach, similar way of talking,

556
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Speaker 2: also grounding himself like, oh, I'm the Christian, so I

557
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 2: can speak to the Christians and all of this stuff.

558
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Speaker 2: So primary, I also give the edge. Well think about

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Speaker 2: this to Jasmine Crockett.

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Speaker 6: Look, that is again, I'm from there. I've seen this

561
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 6: movie before. That's like a blue dog Democrat strategy. The

562
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 6: shit doesn't work. It's been dead since twenty ten. There

563
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Speaker 6: used to be my congress. It feels very sultate, work

564
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Speaker 6: anymore driven, you know, want this like I'm a rancher.

565
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Speaker 6: It's like a who is the Montana guy John Tester?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Same shit? All right?

567
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Speaker 2: He lost for him, but he he did very well

568
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Speaker 2: in that state given the overall politics, because that was

569
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Speaker 2: that was authentic. He actually really was a rancher, right,

570
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Speaker 2: he lost like his hand, like his finger or something

571
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Speaker 2: and ranching eyes like that was that was authentic to him.

572
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Speaker 2: Tallerico feels very like, Okay, we got the consultants together

573
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Speaker 2: in a room, and you're a young guy, so we

574
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Speaker 2: need you and make you appear like larger and like

575
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Speaker 2: you've got this crowd behind you or I don't know.

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00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 2: It just all feels very very crafted and inauthentic. Jasmine

577
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: crockets ad obviously is also consultant driven and crafted and

578
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: all of that, but it does feel like this is

579
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Speaker 2: her like her, she puts herself at the center, she

580
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: puts herself in the spot, like she does know how

581
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 2: to pick these fights. And so yeah, I think a

582
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: lot of Democrats are going to they already love her

583
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: right because of the way she's picked these fights and

584
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: are going to like that aspect of her in this

585
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: campaign as well. In terms of the general election, Like,

586
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Speaker 2: it's definitely I would bet on the Republicans. I think

587
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 2: it's definitely theirs to lose. I wouldn't account her out.

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00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 2: I feel like there is a just assumption that she's

589
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Speaker 2: going to perform poorly, that she won't be a little

590
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: peel to swing voters, et cetera. And listen, if there's

591
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Speaker 2: one thing I've learned from the Trump era, it's that

592
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Speaker 2: that like charisma and that star power, it overcomes a lot,

593
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,239
Speaker 2: and she has she has that quality. So you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't I, like I said, I would definitely think

595
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: the Republicans it's their seat to lose.

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Speaker 4: They've got a shot at it.

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Speaker 2: But when you have this tremendous reckoning of the Trump

598
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Speaker 2: era and discussed with what the Republican Party represents, one

599
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: of the people who have swung the hardest against Trump

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Speaker 2: or non white, non college voters, of which there are many, many,

601
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Speaker 2: many of in Texas. You would expect that Texas would

602
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: be a place where Democrats would perform much better than

603
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 2: they ordinarily perform the state. So I am not willing

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Speaker 2: to write her off completely for the general election in

605
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Speaker 2: the way that many others have.

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Speaker 1: I'll make my stock better. Right now, is Stock on

607
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: camera again, I'll do it, you know, I'll do it

608
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Speaker 1: even she even loses by a point.

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Speaker 6: There's no way I'll say it, because it just doesn't exist.

610
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 6: Where like her strategy is one that will easily win

611
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Speaker 6: a primary. By the way, if she were in a

612
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 6: closer state, I actually think she would have more of

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Speaker 6: a shot. But the state has fundamentally had a major

614
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Speaker 6: political transformation over the last since the last time that

615
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Speaker 6: a Democrat came close. Like the Beto strategy just it

616
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 6: doesn't work anymore. I mean, the margins expanded in twenty

617
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Speaker 6: twenty four, and the idea that you could bank just

618
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Speaker 6: on you know, those type of voters to come out

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Speaker 6: for you, I just don't see it. Especially by the way,

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Speaker 6: there's gonna be a raucous Maga primary, which is currently

621
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 6: happening with John Cornyn and all of them. So the

622
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Speaker 6: Republicans are actually going to be a little bit more

623
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 6: engaged in this race than normal. It's not just going

624
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 6: to be normal smooth sailing. There is an argument that

625
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 6: that's bad, but it does mean that they're gonna be

626
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 6: paying attention.

627
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: Paying attention means you come out to vote.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, I mean, she's a gift, all right,

629
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Speaker 6: you know, in the way that she triggers the right.

630
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that that is useful to we're.

631
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 6: Getting people to come out and hate vote, you know,

632
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 6: against you, for everybody who may come out to vote

633
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 6: for you.

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00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: I think she stands for nothing.

635
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Speaker 6: I also, I mean, look, I know, look, she's a

636
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 6: lightning rod and that's fine, But like I think he's

637
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 6: genuinely kind of dumb. Like I don't I've never heard

638
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 6: her say a single smart thing. She's a complete narcissist.

639
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 3: She has a background of herself on her iPhone's.

640
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Speaker 2: These people are all I agree that given that is

641
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Speaker 2: a given. I don't think it's like I don't see

642
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: any sign that she's not an intelligent person. I think

643
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: she is an intelligent I think she's very savvy in

644
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: the way that she's positioned herself.

645
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 4: And like I said, like.

646
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,239
Speaker 6: Ideolized Trump is for gaining attention. That doesn't mean you're

647
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 6: a smart person, Like were talking about politics, But.

648
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm talking about politics. What matters Are people voting

649
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: based on, like you know, your SAT score? I wish no,

650
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: they're not. She has star quality. And here's the other

651
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: thing is at the Senate level, it matters. The individual

652
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: candidates matter more matters some I think what we learned

653
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Speaker 2: in the off year elections is that it doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: that much who Democratic can run a Mikey Cheryl. You

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Speaker 2: can run a Abigail Stanberger. You can run you know,

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Speaker 2: an Afton Bane in Tennessee. You can run what's the

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Speaker 2: dud's name, j Jones, who, like you know, said he

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Speaker 2: wanted to murder as Republican.

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Speaker 4: But you can run him and win.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of this is going to be

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Speaker 2: about the national wins much more than it is going

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Speaker 2: to be about.

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Speaker 4: The individual candidates.

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm not going to say the individual candidates and

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Speaker 2: local condition don't matter at all. Of course they do

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Speaker 2: at the state wide level. At the congression level, I

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Speaker 2: don't think they really matter all that much. But whatever,

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Speaker 2: will put that aside. But I think the bigger dynamic

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Speaker 2: is going to be what is the national mood and

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Speaker 2: the wind is whether it's Jasmine Crockett or James Tallerigo

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Speaker 2: or bet org or whoever they put in, the wins

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Speaker 2: are at Democrats back.

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Speaker 1: Right now, I'll tell you where she would have a

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Speaker 1: better chance.

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Speaker 6: Actually, I think governor, because there's a lot of evidence

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Speaker 6: that voters vote very differently statewide versus national.

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Speaker 2: They vote less on a less partisan basis the street

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Speaker 2: state offices.

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Speaker 6: Versus like if you look at Kentucky, North Carolina, there's

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Speaker 6: a lot of red states with blue state government with

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Speaker 6: blue governors exactly Maryland famously right Larry Hogan, But they're

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Speaker 6: not going to vote for him for Senate. They people,

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Speaker 6: you know, you got to give them some credit, Like

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Speaker 6: in general, they understand the power of a United States

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Speaker 6: Senate seat.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be very, very difficult.

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Speaker 6: And in the history of the red states which would

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Speaker 6: have elect blue state democrats, those have all been wiped

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Speaker 6: out post twenty ten, with very very limited exceptions. And

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Speaker 6: that type that was successful doesn't look like her. Maybe,

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know this like raging narcissist triggering thing.

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Speaker 6: It's for the Republicans. Sure shit has you know, don't

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Speaker 6: get me wrong, but it usually does not work in

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Speaker 6: a state excuse me. It usually does not work in

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Speaker 6: a state of the opposing party usually need like like,

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Speaker 6: if you're running in a blue state, I'd be like, oh,

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Speaker 6: you know, it's there's no question about it. But she

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Speaker 6: doesn't have that Larry Hogan type energy I guess that

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Speaker 6: you would need as a Democrat I think to win.

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Speaker 6: But listen, it'll be you know, it'd be a good test.

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Speaker 6: We'll see same thing. The sock bet stands. I'll do

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Speaker 6: it if we need to.

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Speaker 4: All right, what margin margin?

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you one percent.

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Speaker 6: If she loses by less than one percent, so it's

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Speaker 6: like a spread, like, what is it plus one?

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll give her a plus one spread.

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Speaker 6: So she loses by more than one, I won't If

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Speaker 6: she loses by less than one, I will eat the stock,

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Speaker 6: and if she wins, I'll eat two. All right, there

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Speaker 6: you go. I'll even spot a couple of points to

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Speaker 6: the audience. Speaking of Congress is going to move to

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Speaker 6: the NDAA. A lot of very important stuff going on

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Speaker 6: here in Ohchington. Let's put this up here on the screen.

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Speaker 6: Marjorie Taylor Green, one of the few Republicans still left

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Speaker 6: in the House of Representatives for the majority, has announced

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Speaker 6: you will not be voting on the NDAA like quote

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Speaker 6: funds our military and is once again filled with America's

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Speaker 6: hard earned tax dollars used to fund foreign aid in

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Speaker 6: foreign countries wars. So let's take a look what's actually

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Speaker 6: in said NDAA. Despite promises to end the war in Ukraine,

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Speaker 6: another four hundred million dollars for the quote Ukraine Security

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Speaker 6: Assistance Initiative for twenty twenty six, twenty seven. You'll be

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Speaker 6: happy to learn that for Israel, we have the following

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Speaker 6: five hundred million for Israeli missile defense, eighty million for

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Speaker 6: US Israel Anti tunnel cooperation, fifty million for US Israel

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Speaker 6: anti drone technology. We've got another one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 6: five million for the Baltic Security Initiative. Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia.

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Speaker 6: You've got a few hundred million there for the Government

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Speaker 6: of Iraq. Syrian militias. What's that Syrian militias? You know

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Speaker 6: which militia do exactly? Do you mean one hundred million

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Speaker 6: to support Middle Eastern countries to increase security along their borders.

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Speaker 6: So you know about half a bill there for the

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Speaker 6: Middle East, for this is for the pro al Qaeda

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Speaker 6: government over there in Syria. You know, a few cool

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Speaker 6: one hundred mil for the Israelis, a few cool hundred

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Speaker 6: mil for Ukraine, and so yeah, pretty much looks exactly

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Speaker 6: the same that it always has been. ZTEO News doing

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Speaker 6: some good breakdown here over the Israel stuff. Let's put

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Speaker 6: that next one up here on the screen. This is amazing,

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Speaker 6: by the way, the US bill would actually fill the

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Speaker 6: Israeli weapons gap caused by embargoes. So other nations that

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Speaker 6: are boycotting and Israel and are you know, stopping them

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Speaker 6: from acquiring certain weapons.

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Speaker 1: What the US bill would do.

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Speaker 6: Is go around and would then buy said weapons and

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Speaker 6: make sure that we deliver it to them.

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Speaker 2: We're going to analyze, make sure we need to spend

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Speaker 2: our government money analyze and making sure the Israelis have

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Speaker 2: absolutely everything they need, that they're not impacted by these

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Speaker 2: embargos from their genocide whatsoever. And then we will make

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Speaker 2: sure to fill the gaps in anything that is not

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Speaker 2: being provided that country by countries that have more of

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Speaker 2: a conscience.

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Speaker 1: In America, first indeed.

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Speaker 6: And so actually, you know what's kind of interesting here, guys,

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Speaker 6: is this this could be in trouble because you've got

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Speaker 6: a lot of you know, the margin right now the

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Speaker 6: House of Representatives is like two votes. Let's put D

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Speaker 6: three up here on the screen. This is from Politico.

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Speaker 6: They're talking about what you missed in the NDAA. They also,

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Speaker 6: you'll all be happy to learn, is that they are

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Speaker 6: making sure to waive any of the existing sanctions on Syria.

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Speaker 6: We wouldn't want al Qaeda to pay a price, now

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Speaker 6: would we, now that they're pro Israel in Syria?

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Speaker 1: That would be conscionable.

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Speaker 2: Weave a lot of sanctions, but yeah, it's funny that,

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Speaker 2: but this is the one that we choose to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, we can debate sanctions all we want.

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Speaker 6: So they work, they not work. There's a lot of

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Speaker 6: evidence they mostly don't work. But you know, if you're

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Speaker 6: gonna do it, if you're gonna wave it, you should

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Speaker 6: waive it for a good reason. And in this case,

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Speaker 6: like what are you doing it for? So you can

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Speaker 6: meet the pro Israel al Qaeda in Syria? Okay, all right,

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Speaker 6: got it? And like I said, hundreds of millions more

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Speaker 6: here I love this, you know, making sure to backfill

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Speaker 6: all of the Spain, Itali, Italy and Germany weapons transfers

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Speaker 6: my buying said weapons, make sure that Israel has absolutely

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Speaker 6: everything that it needs. Now, Originally I thought, of course, Ukraine,

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Speaker 6: we're not even gonna I'll get to that money pit

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Speaker 6: here in a second. I'll but disappear into the pockets

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Speaker 6: of Zelenski and his cronies. Just you know, he needs

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Speaker 6: just a few more one hundred million to make it

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Speaker 6: all work. But what is amazing to me is I

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Speaker 6: originally had thought, oh, well, you know, Marjorie won't vote

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Speaker 6: for it, so maybe it'll be in trouble.

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Speaker 1: But you informed me this morning.

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Speaker 6: I had forgotten that many hockeys Democrats will probably bail

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Speaker 6: them out because they support the Ukraine the Israel section too.

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Speaker 1: So it's great to live in a uniparty state.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, bipartisanship still very much.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot.

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Speaker 2: Don't listen to the haters who say they're is know

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Speaker 2: by barisanship in Washington. Now, so I mean you're you're losing,

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Speaker 2: Marjorie Thomas Massey. I'm gonna probably not going to vote

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Speaker 2: for it either. That means you can only lose one

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Speaker 2: more person. I think that's the math. And so if

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Speaker 2: you did have more Republicans defect, the expectation is that

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Speaker 2: there are a handful of hawkish deems who would make

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Speaker 2: sure to step up and.

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Speaker 4: Fill the void.

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Speaker 2: One other thing I provision I did want to mention

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Speaker 2: because this was, you know, related to a central Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump campaign promise from where he talked about how he

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Speaker 2: was going to expand access to IVF blah blah blah. Well,

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Speaker 2: Mike Johnson, who is this, you know, ideological Christian zealot.

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Speaker 2: He has removed a provision that would have provided IVF

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Speaker 2: coverage for military, active duty members of the military, so

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Speaker 2: that in spite of Trump pledge to strengthen access to

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Speaker 2: the procedures. So you know, it's one of the line

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Speaker 2: items here. There's of course, this is a Christmas tree

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Speaker 2: type of builder's all kinds of stuff put in here.

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Speaker 2: But one of the pieces that got stripped out for

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Speaker 2: you know, religious ideological reasons here, seemingly from the speaker

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Speaker 2: house himself, was this provision that would have provided IVF

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Speaker 2: access for active duty members of the military.

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Speaker 6: Wow, yeah, great, let's continue here. D four up on

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Speaker 6: the screen. We wanted to stay on top of this.

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Speaker 6: We had told you before that there are many Republicans

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Speaker 6: who are weighing resignation. Well now it says that there

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Speaker 6: may be twenty in the next few weeks who will

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Speaker 6: announce that they will not retire, running for the exits

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Speaker 6: before things get worse. It's a terrible job, I think,

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Speaker 6: in my opinion, con always asks, especially in the House

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Speaker 6: of Representatives, but especially now, and when you're headed into

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Speaker 6: a minority, you're going to be doing nothing. You're just

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Speaker 6: going to have to be, you know, Trump's impeachment defense guy.

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Speaker 6: And that's a great job for you know, Jim Jordan

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Speaker 6: or anybody like that who just loves to go on

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Speaker 6: Fox News and be like, here's a word to do

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Speaker 6: to stand up to the radical Democrats today if you

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Speaker 6: actually care about getting anything done.

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Speaker 1: Already, being a minority sucks being.

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Speaker 6: A minority under Trump, where ninety eight percent of what's

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Speaker 6: going to happen on the Democrats' investigation of Trump. Get ready,

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Speaker 6: you know it's going to be Bengazi committee all day long.

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Speaker 1: Not a criticism.

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Speaker 6: That's fine, that's what opposite parties do when they take

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Speaker 6: over the House or Representatives.

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Speaker 1: But that's the reason why, and they don't want to

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Speaker 1: take their marshinals.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's right. It's always a sign.

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Speaker 2: You always see, like in years where it's expected that

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Speaker 2: it's going to be a Republican way, you see a

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Speaker 2: bunch of Democrats retire because they just don't want to

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Speaker 2: deal with being in the minority. They're like, all right,

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Speaker 2: I'm done here this time. The indication is you've had

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Speaker 2: more Republicans who have retired or outright resigned, like Marjorie

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Speaker 2: Taylor Green is not serving out the rest of her term,

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Speaker 2: and so that is an indication of where the political

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Speaker 2: wins are heading and the expectation from basically all of

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Speaker 2: them that we're going to be in the minority. So

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure I want to stick around for this.

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Speaker 2: I mean one question, First of all, we don't know

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Speaker 2: how many. You know, this says up to twenty, well

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Speaker 2: up to twenty is a pretty broad range, so how

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Speaker 2: many exactly? The other question is, you know, do others

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Speaker 2: of them take the Marjorie Taylor Green route and leave

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Speaker 2: before their term ends, triggering more special elections and putting

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Speaker 2: the House majority in jeopardy even before we get to

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Speaker 2: the mid term elections, which again given the narrow margin

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Speaker 2: and given the way these special elections have been going,

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Speaker 2: is I think certainly very much on the table that

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Speaker 2: that Mike Johnson would lose control majority control of the

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Speaker 2: House even before we get to twenty twenty six, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So it's going to be interesting.

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Speaker 6: And then I just had to put this in here

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Speaker 6: because you know, only been saying it for three years.

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Speaker 6: D five put it up here on the screen. You

871
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 6: gotta love this. New York Times they woke up from

872
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 6: their coma. They say Zelenski's government sabotage oversight, allowing corruption

873
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 6: to fester. Oh really, And they say at Times investigation

874
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 6: found president of Vladimir's Lensky's own administration removed guard rails.

875
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: And you know, to prevent graft.

876
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 6: And they point to this very specific example involving a

877
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 6: gas company guy.

878
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: This is the tip of the iceberg.

879
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 6: And you know, did you guys cover probably not which

880
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 6: the head negotiator literally we played a side of him

881
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 6: last week, the head negotiator for Ukraine's peace steel he

882
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 6: had to resign because of corruption his own defense. Guys,

883
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 6: I don't think we did, because we covered that, we

884
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 6: did the stot and then the next day literally resigned,

885
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 6: resigned because of can you imagine that, Like you're negotiating

886
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 6: piece and the next day you're like, oh, actually I

887
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 6: gotta go because they got me.

888
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: I tweeted out the story.

889
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 6: They got some close Selenski advisors, business partners with hundreds

890
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 6: of millions in cash and euros in the middle of

891
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 6: their apartments when they're being busted. Zelenski is literally at

892
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 6: war with his own independent aid to the extent that

893
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 6: there's any independent agency trying to cover and what do

894
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 6: we do.

895
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: We hand him another four hundred million.

896
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 6: It's amazing to me. It's amazing to me, Like the

897
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 6: one of the reasons. Look, I get the Europeans why

898
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 6: they're all bought into this. If this war ends, it's

899
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 6: a disaster for him. It's a gravy train. Like this

900
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 6: is the only thing propping up the entire Zelenski regime.

901
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 6: They have big they have profited to the tune of

902
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 6: hundreds of million. And it's pathetic because at the time

903
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 6: when we used to talk about it in twenty twenty

904
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 6: two and twenty twenty three, when it wasn't popular to

905
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 6: point out how corrupt this country was, they said, you

906
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 6: were a Russian propagandist if you wanted an independent agency

907
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 6: to review and coincidentally, Segar one of the greatest government

908
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 6: agencies in US history, with a Special Inspector General for Afghanistan.

909
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 6: It just issued its final report and I read it.

910
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 6: I've been reading those for twenty years, and it's final

911
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 6: report detailed the hundreds of billions that we wasted in Afghanistan.

912
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 6: And the only reason we even know about so many

913
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 6: of that is because of that independent agent. We still

914
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 6: wasted it. Now, you would think, you know, eventually that

915
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 6: we would get an accounting. Now we don't even have

916
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 6: the mechanism to account. We're going to rely on some

917
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 6: New York Times investigation or whatever Ukrainian opposition will come

918
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 6: in and just point out only the Zelenski corruption, not

919
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 6: their own and all this so you know, who knows

920
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 6: how many billions we pissed away in this war and

921
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 6: how many people died as a result of it.

922
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: Even if you do support, you create and.

923
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: It has a major ongoing impact because, as you know,

924
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: part of the deal that is being crafted, which seems

925
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 2: like it's not really particularly going that well at this point,

926
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 2: the Russians don't like if the Ukrainians are rejecting view whatever.

927
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like that's really coming together, but who

928
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: knows what's happening behind the scenes. In any case, part

929
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: of that is okay, you're not going to be a NATO,

930
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: but you get to be in part of the EU.

931
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: That's right.

932
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: Well, the EU has guidelines about corruption, anti corruption, so

933
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: they're looking at this and like, not so sure we

934
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: really want Ukraine, given the track record right now, to

935
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: be part of the EU. So it has consequences, you know,

936
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: not only which is significant in terms of where our

937
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 2: tax dollars have gone and who's into whose pockets they

938
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 2: have gone in, and what little interest our political class

939
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: has taken in answering that question, but also in terms

940
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: of what happens in the future, you know, whenever this

941
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: war is brought to some sort of an ugly conclusion.

942
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

943
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 6: I mean, look, I don't think I'm not optimistic for

944
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 6: a deal. Trump is not focused enough on it. The

945
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 6: Russians have their own you know, they look the Russians

946
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 6: like they don't really need this deal. They're fine, they

947
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 6: don't care about killing as many of their people as possible.

948
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 6: The only people who need a deal is Ukraine. Because

949
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 6: they're dying and they're keeping them losing their territory. Putin basically,

950
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 6: behind the scenes is said, look, we're gonna take this

951
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 6: shit no one way or the other.

952
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: You could give it to us, or we're gonna bleed

953
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: another one hundred k. They don't care.

954
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 6: Their economy is fine, their population seems to support the war.

955
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: I don't get it, but they do.

956
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm not Russian. I guess they've been convinced of it.

957
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 6: The Ukrainians are the ones who are moving in the

958
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 6: opposite direction. They got enough people killing, and they've got

959
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 6: enough people been killed, and they're willing to negotiate at

960
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 6: least a little bit. And the Europeans are blowing smoke

961
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 6: up their ass about how oh, don't worry, we'll fund

962
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 6: you in the interim and as long as nothing happens,

963
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 6: it's good for Ukraine. Because what did I just show

964
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 6: everybody in the NBAA hundreds of millions are still pouring

965
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 6: in just enough to keep them in the fight, you know,

966
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 6: to continue to lose more territory. And so look, we're

967
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 6: gonna end up in the same place no matter what.

968
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 6: So they think that they're being smart by holding this

969
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 6: off off.

970
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: They're being dumb.

971
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 6: Because they're just going to continue to lose their territory.

972
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 6: They refuse to wake up to reality. They demand NATO

973
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 6: protection security guarantees.

974
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: And Trump wants to give it to him. He's the

975
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: one who's to blame here.

976
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 6: It's been a year now, you know, basically since he's

977
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 6: had an opportunity, and nothing is moving in any direction.

978
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 6: So if you're pro Ukraine, you should be mad, and honestly,

979
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 6: if you're mine, you should be even more mad because

980
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 6: you're like you said, this was going to end, and

981
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 6: you just keep pouring money into the conflict, do nothing

982
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 6: and dragon dragon feet people are dying by one hundreds,

983
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 6: you know, hundreds of thousands.

984
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: Well, and remember the messaging from him, this will be

985
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: easy to say, yeah before I even take office, or

986
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: I'll do it on day one.

987
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 4: I mean that was what he said. And people bought

988
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 4: into this brand.

989
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 2: Oh he's a great deal maker if anyone can get

990
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: it done and be him blah blah blah. And you know,

991
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: and I think people were not really buying in that

992
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 2: it was going to be literally handled on day one.

993
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: But if you look at his polling, this is one

994
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 2: of the issues where his rating is the lowest because

995
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: you know, it is another major blow to his brand.

996
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 2: You're supposed to be the great deal. This was supposed

997
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: to be so easy for you. And here we are

998
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: a year in and you know, we had some rumblings

999
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: of Koka. Things are coming together. And look again, I

1000
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 2: don't know what's happening behind the scenes. I have no

1001
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: special knowledge, but we haven't heard much about progress being made,

1002
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 2: and it seems like both sides are bulking at the provisions.

1003
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,479
Speaker 6: I doubt I would be so doubtful. Look, we're about

1004
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 6: to go into Christmas. You know, things go on hiatus,

1005
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 6: the money gets passed, get a couple hundred million more,

1006
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 6: Zolenska and his guys get to go to Vienna and Paris.

1007
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 4: It's at the point now where it's easier just to

1008
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 4: put it on the back.

1009
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: It's Afghanistan.

1010
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 6: Now, We're just can keep pouring money into this shit,

1011
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 6: and it'll get worse and worse, and one day it'll

1012
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 6: blow up and then everyone, oh my god, how do

1013
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 6: we all let this happen. It's like, well, it would

1014
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 6: have been easier to solve this shit in twenty twenty two,

1015
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 6: but everybody said, oh, I'm gonna.

1016
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 3: I'd rather pay high gas prices for Ukraine. How about

1017
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 3: work out for you?

1018
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 6: They'll lost way more territory since that time, So thanks

1019
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 6: for you know, destroy whatever we keep ranting.

1020
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: So let's talk about this pretty remarkable change between Piers

1021
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: Morgan on his program and Nick Fuentes over the course

1022
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 2: of two hours. I was among the millions that watched

1023
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 2: all of it. I know, you millions, I think, so, yeah, million,

1024
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: that's what Peer said. He was wriging about it being

1025
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: millions anyway.

1026
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: But you know, uh two point two million, Yeah, there

1027
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: you go.

1028
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were you know, there are a lot of

1029
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: clips you guys probably seen already some of the things

1030
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: that floating around. Maybe you have or have not. We'll

1031
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 2: get to some of the ones that have been clipped

1032
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 2: out the most. But there was a different exchange where

1033
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: Nick acknowledges that his politics are basically the same not basically,

1034
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 2: he says they are the same as the politics of

1035
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: Israeli Zionists, that he wants the same thing for the

1036
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: US that they want in Israel. And in a certain sense,

1037
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: I thought that was maybe his most accidentally revealing comment.

1038
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: So let me go ahead and play that and we

1039
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 2: can talk about that.

1040
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: On the other side, there's a genocide going on right now.

1041
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 7: It's not against how many Christians, it's against Christians in

1042
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 7: the world.

1043
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: That makes one point some billion.

1044
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: We are losing as the civilization of mass migration. And

1045
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 3: here's the difference. In Israel. They have my politics. In Israel,

1046
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 3: they want to maintain a Jewish majority. If they had

1047
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 3: it their way, it would only be Jewish people. They're

1048
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 3: fighting like hell so that Jewish people can have as

1049
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 3: much territory a Jewish state, they can be proudly Jewish

1050
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 3: in their own land. Whereas in America we are being

1051
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 3: besieged by ten million Ilegal immigrants in four years and

1052
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 3: then Whites and Christians are going to be the minority.

1053
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: And that's true in Canada, Australia, all the countries in Europe.

1054
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: So you could say there's two.

1055
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: Billion people, but what's the proportionality, what is the percentage

1056
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 3: of people being born that are white? Where's the arrow

1057
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 3: pointing where are we going to be in fifty years?

1058
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 3: In fifty years, there might be in Israel in fifty

1059
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 3: years there is anna people like Christian.

1060
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: So the reason I think Saga that this is very

1061
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: instructive is because we have all spent a lot of

1062
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: time now thinking about Israeli society, diety in Israeli politics,

1063
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: thinking about how that is going for Israeli is let alone,

1064
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: how that is going for the world. And so Nick

1065
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: is saying here, my project of ethno nationalism is the

1066
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: same as the Israeli project of ethno nationalism. So as

1067
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: much as he is critical of them, he actually admires

1068
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 2: their commitment to an ethno state with Jewish supremacy. He

1069
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: just wants it to be white people who are on

1070
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 2: top of you, white Christians who are on top here

1071
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 2: versus Jews, as it is in Israel. And I think

1072
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 2: we can all see very clearly from recent experience what

1073
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: that actually looks like. I mean, in terms of Israeli society,

1074
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 2: they have major issues. They're suffering, you know, an exodus

1075
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 2: of especially the sort of like college educated you know,

1076
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 2: elites who are leaving the country. You have a massive,

1077
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: you know issue in terms of like the social welfare

1078
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: state and people who actually want to work and pay in.

1079
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: You have, of course extraordinary violence. You know, all this

1080
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 2: language about oh, we need Israel because it's the only

1081
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 2: place where Jewish people can be safe and it's quite

1082
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: the contrary. It's probably the place where Jewish people are

1083
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: the least safe. It requires and necessitates and apartheid regime

1084
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 2: because you're constantly terror in terror of a demographic replacement

1085
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: and of Arabs Palestinians becoming the majority. So then you

1086
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 2: end up doing both violence, apartheid and ethnic cleansing. It

1087
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: leads to mass state violence, like multiple wars on multiple fronts,

1088
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 2: bombing all of these countries for the Greater Israel projects

1089
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 2: so that you can make sure that your ethno state

1090
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 2: is demographically secure, like that is their project. And here

1091
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: Nika saying, yes, that is what I want for the

1092
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: United States. So that's why I think that that comment

1093
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 2: to me was so.

1094
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: Interesting, not just interesting.

1095
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 6: That is the fundamental problem for the American Zionist project,

1096
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 6: because the American Zionist project is that Israel is defense

1097
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 6: of Western values, and he is saying, actually, no, it

1098
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 6: is representative of my vision for an ethno nationalist American state.

1099
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: And in a lot of ways he's honest about it.

1100
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 6: Right, He's right, And I think that's part of the

1101
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 6: problem is we all, at least most of us, with

1102
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 6: our eyes open, we see that society now for what

1103
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 6: it is now. I would say, if you look at

1104
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 6: the right left valance for a lot of the criticism

1105
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 6: of Israel, it comes to a two thing number one.

1106
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 6: From the left, it's almost entirely based on human rights concerns.

1107
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 6: On the right, a lot of it is about this

1108
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 6: tiny country. I said before, it's violates natural law. A

1109
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 6: country of nine million that rules three hundred and thirty million,

1110
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 6: or at least has a vast amount of influence. But

1111
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 6: you know, look, Americans, even people who are skeptical of immigration, like,

1112
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 6: let's talk about the Trump people. Whenever the Trump people

1113
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 6: overtly make immigration stuff racial, it becomes much less popular.

1114
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: Is that correct?

1115
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 5: Now?

1116
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: Why?

1117
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 6: Because what do people mean when they say they want

1118
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 6: immigration restriction or something like that? You point to control

1119
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 6: over your border. Now here's the other thing too. If

1120
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 6: you actually ask people whether they want ethno nationalist politics,

1121
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 6: they're like no, actually, I mean, look, first of all,

1122
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 6: it's a little fucking ridiculous to hear a guy who

1123
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 6: admits that his family is Italian and Mexican start talking

1124
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 6: about heritage American. Like seriously, okay, all right, you know,

1125
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 6: if we want to play this game, my wife's.

1126
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: But my wife's blood goes back to Plymouth Rock.

1127
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 4: All Right, I've got I've got my heritage American correst my.

1128
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: Kid, even though it's a jeet mongrel.

1129
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 6: According to the groy Burst has got more heritage American blood.

1130
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 6: All right, if you guys want blood and oil, like,

1131
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 6: we can do that, rolling it back uh to the

1132
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 6: I mean, this is.

1133
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 4: Just something you and I both have in commons. We

1134
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 4: both have Mongrel children.

1135
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: So preposterous.

1136
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 6: Does it not annoy anyone else that only in America

1137
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 6: that he can become so assimilated to be a Italian

1138
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 6: Mexican espousing ethno nationalists, white politics. You know again, my

1139
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 6: wife's ancestors have been horrified at a Italian post eighties

1140
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 6: Catholic Catholic saying.

1141
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: That he's a white American. I mean, does this not

1142
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: drive anybody else crazy?

1143
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 6: All right? But okay, moving back about the ethno nationalist part. Yeah,

1144
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 6: this is the logical conclusion of like zionus Israel and

1145
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 6: that's a nightmare. Yeah, because Israel has always relied on

1146
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 6: we are better than everybody else. Yes, we are better

1147
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 6: than these barbarian Muslims who live.

1148
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 3: In dough by the way. Look, this is I lived

1149
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 3: in guitar. Okay, I don't want to live in Islamic country.

1150
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,919
Speaker 6: It fucking sucks if you ask me, completely completely out

1151
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 6: of step with most Western values. I don't want that

1152
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 6: bullshit over here. But they want that to That's what

1153
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 6: I'm saying. They want that in their own version to

1154
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 6: be important here. That's part of what drives me crazy.

1155
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 6: They're the most identitarian people in the world.

1156
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 2: Think about what we have seen in Israel, associate yourself

1157
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 2: with their politics. To me at this point is it's

1158
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 2: honestly wild. Just this week we didn't even get around

1159
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: to covering because there's so much psychoshit that they do.

1160
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 2: Benevier and his acolytes, who are members of the government,

1161
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 2: their new symbol, their new pin that they're wearing around.

1162
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: It's meant to look like the hostage ribbon, but if

1163
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: you look closely, it's a noose. It's a noose, the

1164
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 2: symbol of racial terror, like the nation national global symbol

1165
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 2: of racial terror. That's what they're wearing. Why are they

1166
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 2: wearing that? Because they want the right to execute the

1167
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 2: Palestinian detainees that they are holding, some of whom are children,

1168
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 2: none of whom ultimately are very few of whom ultimately

1169
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 2: even face charges. They're just randomly pulled. If your military

1170
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: age men, you're just assumed to be guilty. So there's

1171
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 2: that we all witness the right to rape protests and

1172
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 2: the way that the rapists are celebrated in the country,

1173
00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 2: Like that is a natural extension of the Israeli Jewish

1174
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 2: supremacist ethno nationalist project, as is the apartheid, as is

1175
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 2: the violence, as is the ethnic cleansing, and as is

1176
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: the fact that you are not interested in making peace

1177
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 2: with your neighbors.

1178
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 4: Like all of that.

1179
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 2: Violence comes from this one rotten seed of we must

1180
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 2: do anything we have to do, and it doesn't mean

1181
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 2: nobody else matters, only we matter, and we will do

1182
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 2: literally anything to maintain our demographic majority. So let's just

1183
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: be really like he is telling you, those are his politics,

1184
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 2: and that is perfectly in line with everything else that

1185
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 2: he said. And the reason I appreciated this interview with

1186
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 2: Peers is because Nick has been doing like he just

1187
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 2: did one with Stephen Crowder that was so fucking embarrassing.

1188
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 2: I'm sorry it was Stephen Crowder that would humiliating. It

1189
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 2: was humiliating because from the jump he's you know, he's

1190
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 2: clearly afraid of Nick and his audience, and everything's like,

1191
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: now you've said some things I don't agree, but I

1192
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 2: think you were just joking. I think you're taken out

1193
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 2: of context. Like let me, you know, let me give

1194
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 2: you the floor to explain that you're really much more

1195
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: reasonable and moderate that these bad people want to make

1196
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 2: you out to be. The Tucker interview also embarrassing. Right,

1197
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 2: he's been going on this tour and now he's sort

1198
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 2: of like can't be denied anymore. So you know, everybody's

1199
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 2: going to talk about him, and everybody's going to talk

1200
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: to him, and mostly what he's been getting is softballs

1201
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: or they don't have his words directly there, so he

1202
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 2: doesn't have to directly address them. Now, there are parts

1203
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 2: of this that I would have handled differently. But you know, Pierce,

1204
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: like to his cart, he's good at this type of interview.

1205
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 2: He's not afraid of confrontation, he's quick on his feet.

1206
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: He had a moment where he like caught He had

1207
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 2: a couple moments where he caught Nick in some you know,

1208
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 2: some things that were like logical inconsistencies that I thought

1209
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 2: was very clever to do in the moment. He doesn't

1210
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: handle everything the way that I would, but he kind

1211
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 2: of forced Nick to actually be straightforward, what are your

1212
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 2: actual views?

1213
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 4: Are these jokes or are these not jokes?

1214
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 2: And I think that was at this point where we

1215
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 2: are with him being uncanceled and him being in the

1216
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 2: mainstream and having all this influence and all of that,

1217
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: I think that was important to do. So let me

1218
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 2: go ahead and play one of those moments. So you know,

1219
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 2: I Nick actually called me out for always calling him anots,

1220
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: prefacing with the fact that he's a neo Nazi every

1221
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 2: time I talk about him, because I think that is

1222
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 2: an accurate description of his politics. So one of the

1223
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: clips that Pierce played was him saying, like, how great

1224
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 2: and cool he thinks Hitler is, and he challenges him

1225
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: with that, Let's go ahead and take a listen how

1226
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:37,439
Speaker 2: that goes.

1227
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 7: Do you think Hitler was very fucking cool? Yes?

1228
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: I do one of those, and I'm tired of pretending

1229
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: he's not well.

1230
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 7: To be honest, this is the problem, you see. It's

1231
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 7: a bit like when you just say I'm a racist.

1232
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 7: You're a racist who thinks Hitler's cool, but you're not

1233
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 7: anti semitic if you're a Jewish person watching this, what

1234
00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 7: are they thinking?

1235
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 2: So there you go. Yes, I think Hitler is cool.

1236
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 2: I'm tired of pretending he's not. Let me go ahead

1237
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: and play. Also this moment where Peers challenges hit him

1238
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 2: Nick with some of the things he said in the

1239
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: past and ask them, well, I mean, aren't you just basically.

1240
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 4: Admitting here that you're a racist?

1241
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 2: And Nick says yes, he affirms, yes, you could say

1242
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 2: that I am a racist.

1243
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 4: This is f three. Let's take a listen.

1244
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 3: I'm a new generation of white person. I'm not living

1245
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 3: around blacks. Sorry, you know, I want white kids and

1246
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 3: I don't want my white kids bringing home black people

1247
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 3: to marry. It's racial for me. And call me racist. Oh,

1248
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 3: very Christian to you. I don't give a fuck.

1249
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 7: I mean, it couldn't be clearer really, unless you want

1250
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 7: to say that's another regal jokes. But you're basically saying, yeah,

1251
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 7: I'm a racist, aren't you?

1252
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah, I'm fine with that. You're fine with

1253
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 3: saying you're a racist totally. I think everybody's racist. I

1254
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 3: think everybody, if we're being honest, is racist. I think everybody.

1255
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 3: The only people that aren't racist or pretend not to

1256
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 3: be our white people to their detriment.

1257
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 2: There was a funny moment right after that because Nick

1258
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 2: had taken great offense at Tucker playing for him something

1259
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 2: he'd said about his dad which indicated his dad was

1260
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 2: for your peer, did I say, oh, I said, Tucker, sorry.

1261
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: Peers played something for Nick that he had said about

1262
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 2: his dad that indicated his dad was how dare you

1263
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: seeing my dad is racist? And then here he's like, well, yeah,

1264
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 2: everybody's racist, and so Peer's like, but wait, your.

1265
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 4: Dad is the one non racist person.

1266
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: I thought that the whole dad thing was weird because whatever.

1267
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: But my point is just.

1268
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 2: Like I think it was clever because it got him

1269
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 2: sort of angry and frazzled off the jump. Now listen,

1270
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 2: to be clear, Knicks fans think he did a fantastic job.

1271
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 2: He thinks PEPs was owned. He thinks they think it's

1272
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 2: so base that he was like, yes, Hitler's cool, and

1273
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 2: yes I'm a racist and all of that, Like they're

1274
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 2: totally happy with his performance. To me, I think it's

1275
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 2: very useful to have this new interview where he says overly,

1276
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 2: yes Hitler' school, Yes I'm a racist, I support the

1277
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: politics of you know, apartheid Israel. That's what I want

1278
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 2: for the United States. Okay, good, Like good people need

1279
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 2: to know I agree exactly where you are and not

1280
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 2: do this like playing cute and coy and like, oh

1281
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 2: I want to work with the left and I'm really

1282
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 2: reasonable and no, I've been so mischaracterized.

1283
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,959
Speaker 6: Well even in Trump criticism, you know, I mean, look,

1284
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 6: it's been very effective, very recently. He is very Look,

1285
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 6: he's smart, Like, let's give credit where it is due.

1286
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 6: He's a very calculated person. Like when he does his

1287
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 6: normal guy interviews with I don't know, like Bradley Martin

1288
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 6: or something like that, he'll sit and he'll very cogently

1289
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 6: explain the problems with US support for Israel, and you know,

1290
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 6: stuff that has broad based support. But this stuff is

1291
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 6: also important to Couch. I mean, look, you know, the

1292
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 6: gropers are correct in that quote. He did a good job.

1293
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 6: He very accurately represented himself, you know, very accurately. If

1294
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 6: you knew anything about him, this is exactly what it is.

1295
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 6: And I'm not going to sit here in pearl clutch.

1296
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Speaker 6: I'm pretty confident enough in American politics. And more to say,

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Speaker 6: I don't think most people are cool with it.

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Speaker 1: I just don't.

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Speaker 6: And like that's the part where look, this is this

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Speaker 6: kind of bigets like media responsibility for couching in everything.

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Speaker 1: What this isn't important?

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Speaker 6: By the way, why are we even paying attention beyond

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Speaker 6: like this is a thing, because the thing is And

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Speaker 6: again this is in my opinion, kind of rewinding back.

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Speaker 6: I think the last time we talked about Fuentes, I

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Speaker 6: ultimately blame much of the quote liberal Zionist or right

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Speaker 6: wing Zionist project for this bullshit because they are the

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Speaker 6: ones who try to defend ethno nationalist Israel who murders

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Speaker 6: women and children in the language of American interests and

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Speaker 6: of liberal Western values, which a lot of Americans believe in,

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Speaker 6: And they kind of broke that open and that criticism

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Speaker 6: window where ultimately it really was like Nick and a

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Speaker 6: few others who were willing to say no, this is bullshit,

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Speaker 6: and like that's the vacuum that was ultimately filled. And

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Speaker 6: so and you know, look, even now with the pro

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Speaker 6: Israel right, everyone is basically saying the same shit about Muslims.

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Speaker 6: You know, this like rampant like low iq islamophobia as

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Speaker 6: literally by the way, go read that. Charlie Kirk letter

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Speaker 6: to NETANYAHUO. He even says there and there was a

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Speaker 6: whole poll tested strategy. They're like, we need to attack

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Speaker 6: Islam to like move away from people attacking. But this

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01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 6: is what these like Zionists never understand it, guys. If

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Speaker 6: you openly normalize talking generically about cultures and moving away

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Speaker 6: from talking about people as individual or openly talking about

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Speaker 6: people as a race, and specifically like openly normalize like

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Speaker 6: grouping people in together, Historically that's always been really bad

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Speaker 6: for Jews, right, But they seem to think that it's

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Speaker 6: not going to blow back on them. He is only

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Speaker 6: taking it to a very logical conclusion. And so that's

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Speaker 6: why is Israel comment combined with the race that it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: that's that.

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Speaker 1: Is that that's a project. Listen.

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Speaker 6: I mean, look at America, like in general broadly what

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Speaker 6: we mostly have come to terms with again, even coming

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Speaker 6: to immigration. I know you disagree, but there are a

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Speaker 6: lot of people who still voted for Trump on the

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Speaker 6: immigration agenda. I again think it was about control and

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Speaker 6: one of the things I mean, even in this whole

1339
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Speaker 6: like race thing, whenever he talks about I think you've

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Speaker 6: really said at one point, race is not skin deep, right,

1341
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 6: which okay, I mean yeah, if you believe that, I

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Speaker 6: mean that, that's fine. I guess you know, not a

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Speaker 6: lot of good evidence. Actually, whenever it comes to us culture.

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Speaker 1: This is my look.

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Speaker 6: I don't love I don't love the race IQ discourse.

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Speaker 6: I don't think there's any a lot of really good

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Speaker 6: that comes from it. But if you want to, if

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Speaker 6: you want to look at educational attainment by race and

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01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 6: all that, you would be amazed at the difference. Let's say,

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Speaker 6: in the term white, white is a meaningless term. The

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Speaker 6: income gap between a quote unquote French heritage American compared

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Speaker 6: to a Italian American or a you know, Serbian or

1353
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Speaker 6: Caucasian American like from the Caucuses is almost a difference

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Speaker 6: between like white and black. You can also do that

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Speaker 6: in terms of Asian. My point is like Laotan versus

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Speaker 6: is Japanese or Indian. Now, I don't want to go

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01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 6: down this whole road, but my point on that is

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Speaker 6: that if it was just not skin deep, then that

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Speaker 6: wouldn't be the case because their skin color or their

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Speaker 6: race would determine it. I think a lot of it

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Speaker 6: is cultural, and in fact that is value based, and

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Speaker 6: it transcends in fact, it's kind of an inspirational story

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Speaker 6: if you ask me.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've I read this piece.

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Speaker 6: It was in Killet years ago, actually talking about Black

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Speaker 6: Americans and you know the legacy of hate, you know

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Speaker 6: that Harlem Renaissance and Caribbean Black Americans versus some of

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Speaker 6: the legacy of like Jim Crow South and why exactly

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Speaker 6: there were educational differences in income. Yeah, it's all culture,

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01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 6: turns out, and you can't even say, oh, guy, genetically

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Speaker 6: they're the same. They're both descendants of a slavery based island,

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Speaker 6: you know system.

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Speaker 1: So actually it's all cultural based.

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Speaker 6: I think that's kind of cool, very inspirational actually, but

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Speaker 6: nobody you know, and again I think entertaining this is

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Speaker 6: but I guess at this point, like we have to

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Speaker 6: talk differences, you know, and all this, and so look

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Speaker 6: and by the way, you know, I don't think people

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Speaker 6: want to go down this whole road of you know,

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Speaker 6: they're talking about the Somali fraud thing. I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 6: you want you want to talk about fraud, like you

1382
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 6: want to talk.

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Speaker 1: About fraud, like we can.

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Speaker 4: Let's let's discuss what Scott yeah about that?

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Speaker 6: Okay, but let's also look at I'll say it, the

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Speaker 6: Hissidic Jewish culture. Right, Well, guess what go in to

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Speaker 6: New York City. You can look at landlords and all

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Speaker 6: people racists do this all the time, who are anti Semitic.

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Speaker 1: Do I think that's because they're inherently Jewish? No?

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Speaker 6: I think that ultra insular communities of any sort often

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Speaker 6: can use their different their network effects in order to

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Speaker 6: pull off fraud.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Nick, coming from an Italian background, this is

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Speaker 2: something very much about the Italians, you know, the mob

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Speaker 2: and the way that that all worked. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's a very common phenomenon, especially with immigrant communities, especially

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Speaker 2: if there is you know, especially actually if there's some

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Speaker 2: sort of discrimination against that community and that makes them

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Speaker 2: even more tighter knit and they're looking out for one.

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Speaker 1: Don't don't let my own people off the hook. I'm

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01:05:58,360 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: not a race. I don't believe, you know, in all,

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Speaker 1: A lot of Indians commit fraud, a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: You know why.

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Speaker 6: In India it's a non rules based system where corruption

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01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 6: and graft is rife. Culturally, it's a huge problem over there,

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01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 6: and so they come over here and some of them

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Speaker 6: who use the same practice. Does that mean all Indians

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Speaker 6: are corrupt.

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Speaker 1: Love it?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 6: In fact, is it inherent to our brown condition? Or

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Speaker 6: is it a legacy of the Institution's on Now, I'm

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Speaker 6: fine with that. We can talk about that shit all

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Speaker 6: day long, but let's not all pear clutch over it,

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01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 6: and let's definitely not make it some sort of like

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Speaker 6: skin color.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 6: My point is, it's America. We should all be treated

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Speaker 6: as individuals. I'm happy to discuss culture all day long,

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Speaker 6: from Somali's to Hasidic Jews to anybody else. We can

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01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 6: talk all day long about merit. That's ultimately why I

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01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 6: think a merit based, individual based system and evaluating everyone

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Speaker 6: as ultimately as the US Constitution inherently at its best

1424
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Speaker 6: wanted us to look at, is fundamentally why I think

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Speaker 6: the American project is still sounding good. We have tried

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Speaker 6: his vision before it was called the Jim Crow South,

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Speaker 6: beyond openly just being a place where people were lynched,

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Speaker 6: or they'll love that one.

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Speaker 1: They're always talking about how the lynchings were always that bad.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing.

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Speaker 6: No, it's if you never dealved into Southern know about that,

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Speaker 6: oh man, Southern revanchism is a whole.

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Speaker 2: Other well, and there's I mean, for me, I think

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Speaker 2: the culture piece, like I give that some credence. I

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Speaker 2: also think material conditions are incredibly important, even when you know,

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Speaker 2: that was one of the things that was frustrating me

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Speaker 2: when Peers and Neck were going back and forth on

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Speaker 2: like crime statistics, is you have to talk about material

1439
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 2: conditions to get a complete picture there as well.

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Speaker 4: And Peers because he doesn't.

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Speaker 2: You know, he doesn't really have an opposite or like

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Speaker 2: an alternative ideological frame, so it doesn't have a lot

1443
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Speaker 2: of grounding to come into those discussions, like he doesn't have,

1444
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 2: for example, a class based frame to apply or even

1445
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 2: you know, you would bring more of a cultural frame

1446
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 2: to it to apply, like he doesn't have it. But

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Speaker 2: in any case, putting that aside, you know, I think

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Speaker 2: there's another dynamic here. First of all, most of what

1449
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Speaker 2: says about black people, about immigrants, most of this has

1450
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Speaker 2: not been a problem for the Republican Party. You know,

1451
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Speaker 2: most of this is pretty mainstream in terms of the

1452
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Speaker 2: Republican Party. You can just ask Steven Miller and look

1453
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 2: at what the president says about Somali, about Somali's not

1454
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 2: even Somaliam or like Smali, US citizens Somali Americans to

1455
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 2: see the way that this racial lens has become the

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Speaker 2: dominant lens of Republican politics. And it's ironic because you know,

1457
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Speaker 2: in a lot of ways they position themselves as pushing

1458
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Speaker 2: back on the racial lens or the identity lens that

1459
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Speaker 2: came from liberals and the left. You know, that's what

1460
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 2: wokeism is, right, It's a racial lens, but from a

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Speaker 2: left wing perspective.

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Speaker 4: And now they have applied their own.

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Speaker 2: And I mean this has always existed and Republicans is

1464
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 2: not like new, but now it's I think more front

1465
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 2: and center than it's ever been before and with more

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Speaker 2: overt power in the person of Steven Miller and others

1467
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Speaker 2: within the White House. Just look at the way the

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Speaker 2: DHS account post where they have this very explicitly racial lens.

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Speaker 2: That's how you end up with the refugee program shut

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Speaker 2: down except for africaners coming out of South Africa. Right whites,

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Speaker 2: literal whites only refugee policy. But where Nick comes in

1472
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Speaker 2: from their opprobrium is when he applies it to Jewish

1473
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Speaker 2: people as well. And so you know that's why, like

1474
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Speaker 2: you say, okay, you blame liberals. I think there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of blame to go around for the flirtation liberals.

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Speaker 6: For the right wing Zionist movement trying to they're trying

1477
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Speaker 6: to have it both with that's, yeah, trying to say

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Speaker 6: denaturalize and deport all Somali's because we don't like ilhan Omar.

1479
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Speaker 6: But if if all Jews, if you can plate for Israel,

1480
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Speaker 6: you're an anti semi and.

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Speaker 2: You should be and you should literally be criminalized rightly

1482
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Speaker 2: and locked up, and that should be made it actually illegal.

1483
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Speaker 1: Yes, No, I blame it right wing Zionis for his rise.

1484
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Speaker 2: And the other and I agree with that, and then

1485
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 2: I to zoom out more broadly. You know, I don't

1486
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 2: think we should any of us should be surprised that

1487
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Speaker 2: radical politics is ascendant. That is more overt, you know,

1488
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 2: his product of certainly like Internet culture, but also just

1489
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 2: a product of the fact that the neoliberal project has

1490
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,560
Speaker 2: run its course. It has failed to deliver on its promises.

1491
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Speaker 2: People are slipping in their living standards. They're living less,

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Speaker 2: I mean, their life expectancy is literally shrinking, like the

1493
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Speaker 2: most basic metric of how society could do. So from

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Speaker 2: a more macro perspective, you know, that's where I sort

1495
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Speaker 2: of pin this phenomenon. But I also feel like, you know, Nick,

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Speaker 2: in this interview, he's very confident. He's like, young people

1497
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Speaker 2: agree with me, and I'm winning. I'm winning the argument.

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Speaker 2: I don't see a lot of evidence for that. In fact, look,

1499
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Speaker 2: I don't know this poll is. Who knows how accurate

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Speaker 2: this is. Many people don't even know who Nick Fuentas is.

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Speaker 2: But his favorability among the American population right now is

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01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 2: six percent. Okay, if you put a random person's name

1503
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 2: in there, you're likely to get more than that. And

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Speaker 2: interestingly though, actually if you dig into the cross tabs,

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Speaker 2: the place where he has his greatest support of course

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01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 2: young men. But if if you break it down by

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Speaker 2: racial groups, it's actually black people and then Latinos and

1508
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 2: then white people only three percent favorability, so it's like

1509
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 2: twelve percent. And so you know, I think the I

1510
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 2: think the Israel criticism reads to a lot of people

1511
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 2: as like anti establishment and also reads if you don't

1512
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 2: listen to him all the time and you don't hear

1513
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 2: him saying or you think he's just joking when he

1514
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 2: says like I know I am actually a racist and

1515
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 2: I actually don't want to be around black people, and I,

1516
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 2: you know, cross the street when I see them, and

1517
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to live in their neighbors, and I

1518
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 2: don't want my kids to bury them. Like, if you

1519
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 2: aren't paying enough attention to hear all of those things,

1520
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 2: it may also read as like concern for equal rights

1521
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 2: and concern for humanity, because that is one of the

1522
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 2: dominant frames with which people view Israel. So anyway, I

1523
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 2: thought that polling was interesting, even as I take it

1524
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 2: with the grain salt. And this is not to dismiss him,

1525
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 2: because I think a lot of the discourse right now

1526
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 2: about oh it's all bots and it's all inorganic and

1527
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 2: foreign influence and whatever like. There may be some of that,

1528
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 2: but he genuinely has a devoted following. You can see

1529
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 2: them I r L. They turn up at events all

1530
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 2: the time, They watch his interviews religiously, they post his

1531
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 2: content like. This is clearly a fan base that exists

1532
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 2: and is very influential and incredibly impactful with young especially

1533
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 2: with young Republicans.

1534
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 6: Say it is a bot thing is ludicrous. It's literally

1535
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 6: not true. Look it is. He is a very popular person.

1536
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 3: Okay, he's popular now now I think to say is

1537
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 3: the most influential amongst young Man is a little it's

1538
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 3: a little twitter brained. In my opinion, I think Ben

1539
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 3: Shapiro is actually far more influential.

1540
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 1: I wish that were not the case. To be king,

1541
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: I don't agree with that.

1542
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 4: But he's fallen off. He's fallen off.

1543
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: I think he was.

1544
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 4: I think he's fallen off all look at his view count.

1545
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 6: It's not just this view He still has one of

1546
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 6: the most popular podcasts in the US, is a top

1547
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 6: ten political podcast.

1548
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: Is many more down loads, even in ours. I wish

1549
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 1: this were not.

1550
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 2: Also, I think his audience is older. See I love

1551
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 2: his numbers, Wilson, his numbers. I mean Tim Poole was

1552
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 2: talking about this, like all conservative influencers outside of the

1553
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 2: Groper lane and outside like Canvas is doing very well,

1554
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 2: Talker's doing well, Nick is doing very well. But the

1555
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 2: pro Israel Republican commentators, they're all falling off.

1556
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a YouTube thing.

1557
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 6: But if you look at the podcast charts, the Matt

1558
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 6: Walsh's of the World of Charlie, The Charlie Kirk Show

1559
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 6: was huge. You know before this, it was a top

1560
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 6: ten bandon War Room. This is not just old people

1561
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 6: like to say to deny that theyre do not have

1562
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 6: a big audience, Like really whitewashes that there is a

1563
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 6: whole Again, this is just Twitter brain Like there is

1564
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 6: applicant out there who listens to the best Ben shpiersh show.

1565
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 2: But they're older. I mean, look at this, Look at

1566
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 2: the poll Look look at the polling with young Republicans

1567
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 2: on Israel.

1568
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 1: Yes, but that's I mean, that is that's just I'm.

1569
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 4: Not saying it's only Nick Funtas.

1570
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 2: But I think I think Ben has lost a lot

1571
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 2: of whatever purchase he had with young people, which I'm

1572
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 2: not convinced that he ever had a lot of purchase

1573
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 2: with young men or women, but he was. But whatever

1574
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 2: purchase he had with young people I think has been

1575
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 2: severely eroded by the fact that Israel is so central

1576
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 2: to him and that that has become for the young right,

1577
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 2: that has become a real litmus test.

1578
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,520
Speaker 6: Look, I don't disagree, but again I wouldn't take podcasts

1579
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 6: our Twitter virality exactly to the bank. Like Megan Kelly

1580
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 6: is the number one conservative podcaster right now, Ben Shapiro

1581
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 6: is number yeah, number two.

1582
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 2: Like Look, but again, podcasts tend to be older than

1583
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 2: YouTube or data.

1584
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 6: Twitter it's really our data shows them. I mean, they're

1585
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 6: much more on our YouTube demographic. I don't know, okay exactly,

1586
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 6: I would have to look, but I again, I would

1587
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 6: not take it all the way as like this is

1588
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 6: the number one.

1589
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 3: Now.

1590
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,560
Speaker 1: Look, let's give him credit. He has literally.

1591
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 6: Banned on most podcast platforms, so if he was able

1592
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 6: to compete fairly, maybe he would be as big. But

1593
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 6: I also think there's an element of people who live

1594
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 6: on Twitter too much, like take this much more to

1595
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 6: the bank, to be fair, that has a Republican elite

1596
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 6: problem because a lot of of Republican elites are only

1597
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 6: on Twitter, so it can be verily influential at that level.

1598
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 6: But there's still a lot of like normal frat dudes

1599
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 6: out there who are not supposedly necessarily into Nick Fuintez.

1600
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 6: Let's say they're listening to Tucker Carlson right now, who

1601
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 6: is one of the bigger younger audiences.

1602
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 2: Candace is up here, Yeah, but they're all they're like

1603
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 2: Nick fuents adjacent, you know what I mean.

1604
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 4: I mean, they're not. I think it is fair.

1605
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 2: I'm just talking about in terms of Candace, yes, in

1606
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 2: terms of the Israel criticism that is the dividing line, right,

1607
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 2: Candace is an Israel critic, Tucker is an Israel critic,

1608
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 2: Nick is an Israel critic, right, And so yes, that

1609
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,879
Speaker 2: they have more strength with younger audiences.

1610
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 4: That's my point.

1611
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 2: Okay, that's my point, right, And the Shapiros and the

1612
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 2: Timpooles and Stephen Crowders of the world have fallen off

1613
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 2: because in the same way, this is a litmus test

1614
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,839
Speaker 2: with Democrats overall, and I'm not even just young Democrats

1615
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 2: over you know, it is a I think a litmus

1616
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 2: test with young Republicans. And I do think that that

1617
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 2: is a big part of why Nick Fuent has has

1618
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 2: seen such a rise right now, because he's taken the

1619
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 2: ideology that is a senate in the reublic the racialist

1620
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 2: ideologists is sendate in the Republican Party and has been

1621
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 2: flirted with by all these people, and he's saying it outright.

1622
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:16,600
Speaker 2: So that's number one, So it comes across as a

1623
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 2: truth teller. Number two, it has been disallowed to have

1624
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 2: any sort of Trump criticism, and so the only place

1625
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 2: you would get that previously was like, you know, outside

1626
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 2: of yourself and Emily like there's a few other voices

1627
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:32,679
Speaker 2: basically that exist on this channel alone. But outside of that,

1628
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 2: if you're going to get someone on the right, it's

1629
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 2: going to be Fuentes and then to a lesser degree,

1630
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 2: Tucker and Candae, so that there was like a market

1631
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 2: opening there as well. And then yeah, I think Israel

1632
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 2: has just become such an incredibly central dividing line. But

1633
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 2: in any case, to bring this back around to the

1634
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,679
Speaker 2: interview with Peers, I thought Peers did a serviceable job.

1635
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 2: I appreciate just the you know, direct getting on the

1636
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 2: record of yes, I'm a Rasis, Yes, a misogynist, Yes,

1637
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 2: I like Hitler, like having all of those things said

1638
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 2: on the record. Now, okay, all right, we know what

1639
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 2: you are. We can deal with this. You're not doing

1640
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 2: this hide the ball thing anymore. Appreciate that. And to me,

1641
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:19,839
Speaker 2: affirmatively affiliating yourself with the ethno nationalist politics of Israel

1642
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 2: is very useful because we can all see what that

1643
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 2: means and where it leads. We don't have to imagine,

1644
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 2: we can see it right now in real time. Is

1645
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 2: that what you want? Is that what you want?

1646
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: Actually?

1647
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:29,679
Speaker 4: Now what I want?

1648
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 6: A lot of Republican critics of Israel, a lot of

1649
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 6: them are horrified by.

1650
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 1: Their they don't want to live in that society. That's

1651
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 1: what they don't want right to.

1652
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 6: I mean literally it is funny, you know if you think,

1653
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 6: if it's like, why does the logical conclusion of ethno nationalism,

1654
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 6: like rewind the clock here, go back one hundred years,

1655
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,679
Speaker 6: you basically saw the same level of like breaking out

1656
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 6: rapists or whatever down in the South.

1657
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 1: Yes, this shit.

1658
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 2: Because when you dehumanize people, this is the natural that's

1659
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 2: the natural extension. And especially when you have this like

1660
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 2: demographic project word is an existential threat. If some other

1661
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 2: groups starts having babies and they're otherwise, then it's it

1662
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:11,600
Speaker 2: leads inevitably to apartheid, ed nic cleansing, violence, genocide. Like

1663
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 2: that is the track that Israel has always been on

1664
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 2: since it's founding, because of its core ethno nationalist Jewish

1665
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 2: supremacist ideology, and especially since they tried to like kick

1666
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 2: the people off their land and you know, set up

1667
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 2: shop in a place that it came.

1668
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 1: To add in the war, it came to head in

1669
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 1: the war.

1670
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,600
Speaker 6: And saying that is actually again it's one of the

1671
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 6: more revealing things of all this just the final thing

1672
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 6: to tie about yea, when I was saying about influence.

1673
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 6: What I meant is not the Israel thing. What I

1674
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 6: meant was, look, I could be deeply naive. I do

1675
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 6: not think the vast majority of young Republicans are overt.

1676
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 6: I think that race is not skin deep. I just

1677
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 6: don't think so. I mean this is based on my

1678
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 6: own experience. Now, listen, there's a shitload of Groper's out there.

1679
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 6: Don't get me wrong, They're one hundred percent and the

1680
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 6: irony culture, but in g.

1681
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 2: They're very engaged, which gives them makes some punch about that.

1682
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 6: That's what I meant about the Twitter thing, where like, yeah,

1683
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 6: you can get a lot of interactions, but that doesn't

1684
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 6: mean I mean, look, I know how every time I

1685
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 6: meet somebody who watches the show, not on Twitter, barely

1686
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 6: politically engaged, they're like, yeah, I listen to the show,

1687
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 6: love the show, you know, something like that, going about

1688
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:16,719
Speaker 6: my daily business. That's kind of what I meant by Shapiro,

1689
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 6: Talker Candice, all these people like they have much more

1690
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 6: I think normal audience. Now to the extent that the

1691
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 6: normal audience exists, and why Nick is appealing is Nick

1692
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 6: speaks very eloquently about being a young man, disaffected, young

1693
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 6: white man, in America. I sympathize with that. I talk

1694
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 6: about it here too, right, not just white part.

1695
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 2: Diffected, disaffected part in America, disaffected young men.

1696
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 1: I talk.

1697
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,679
Speaker 6: He speaks very eloquently about what that's like. He speaks

1698
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 6: eloquently about what he thinks is like too feminized of

1699
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 6: a cult.

1700
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 3: Now he takes it pretty far faroo, but shouldn't.

1701
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 6: He is very obviously, just like with Israel thing and

1702
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 6: taking it to full blown anti semitism.

1703
01:19:58,360 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 1: He takes something with.

1704
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 6: A real gripe you know in society, and you take

1705
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 6: it full on. But he speaks, you know, he's capable

1706
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,759
Speaker 6: when he wants to of speaking about that. He also

1707
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 6: he's very witty. He is funny, and he has some

1708
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 6: very skating criticism of Trump. All the ingredients for a

1709
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 6: broad appeal are all there. This is just being honest,

1710
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 6: you know, from from a purely like analytical perspective. And

1711
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 6: then the grand opening of Trump, maga scophancy and right

1712
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 6: wing media unable to critique israel sick infancy from the

1713
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 6: Ben Shapiro's on the World created this storm. And the

1714
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 6: funny part is they are just like him, like the

1715
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 6: way they talk about Somali's is the way he talks

1716
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 6: about Jews, You're just like, you can't, We're not gonna win.

1717
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 4: And he he also talks about Samies that way, by

1718
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 4: the way.

1719
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, the point is he's the logical conclusion in many

1720
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Speaker 6: ways of the way that they want to defend their

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Speaker 6: own Israel politics, and he's saying, actually, I'm the real

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Speaker 6: representative of Israel.

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Speaker 1: Are I kind of agree with that?

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Speaker 6: And so it's all just a question now of which

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Speaker 6: way we don't to go. So to the extent that

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Speaker 6: this is an important interview at all, it's because there

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Speaker 6: are people, I think a lot of right wingers who

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01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 6: are grappling with the what it doesn't mean to be

1729
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 6: an anti Israel republican? What doesn't mean to be anti

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Speaker 6: Israel and not a leftist? And they have difficulty in

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01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 6: their options of the Ben Shapiro or the Fuintes and

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Speaker 6: all that. And it's like, you guys, you know, you

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01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 6: don't have to pick either, maybe operationally you kind of do.

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Speaker 6: And then similarly on the left, people are like, oh,

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Speaker 6: can we make you know, common cause or whatever? Because

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Speaker 6: he's what did he say is like we want to

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01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 6: work together or something. It's like, you know, like they

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01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 6: don't want to work with you, right, or at least

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Speaker 6: they probably should if they want to win, you know, Right,

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Speaker 6: it's really a question about like political effective coalitions and

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Speaker 6: like what it means for this and so yeah, that's

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Speaker 6: my final Like ty Bow here is I think Nick

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01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 6: is a creation of the right wing Zionist movement. I

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Speaker 6: think broadly also, it's a representation of why we need

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01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 6: better spaces for people to actually talk about all of

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01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 6: those issues, which we do here on this show all

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Speaker 6: the time.

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Speaker 7: He is.

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Speaker 6: You know, there's a reason that the fringes become popular

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Speaker 6: in moments like this, and it's because there's no mainstream

1751
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 6: legitimacy and then you have a revolutionary like Trump gets

1752
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 6: elected on their backs and then basically becomes more so

1753
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,799
Speaker 6: that makes you lose even less faith in the political system.

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Speaker 1: So I get it. And it's not an excuse at all.

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Speaker 6: I guess it's more of a it's a real leadership

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01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 6: question really if you're a Republican, especially to be able

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Speaker 6: to find some way to talk about this eloquently, and

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Speaker 6: I haven't seen a single person really be able to

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Speaker 6: do it.

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Speaker 1: Now. It's kind of tragic, actually, because I think this

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Speaker 1: is just going to keep rolling.

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Speaker 6: Ye all right, yep, long, long winded. We'll see everybody.

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Speaker 6: It will be a great counterpoint show for tomorrow. Thank

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Speaker 6: you for bearing with my voice. I'm sure it was

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Speaker 6: grading for some of you. Try my best.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you all on Thursday.