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Speaker 1: gonna start. The first quarter is one of my favorite drills.

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Speaker 1: The first quarter of our podcast today is running backs

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Speaker 1: know that one on ones. It's a it's a blitz

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Speaker 1: and be honest, the drill is designed for the bull rush.

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Speaker 1: to win the majority of the time, but every once

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Speaker 1: that's the thing we heard over and over today. Get

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Speaker 1: off the ground. Get off the ground. Um. Its legs

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Speaker 1: gets tired, guys, your fundamental on your technique, your balance,

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Speaker 1: all those things, your equilibrium. It pays the price. And

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Speaker 1: the guys that can battle through that from a mental standpoint,

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Speaker 1: those are the guys that in the fourth quarter and

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Speaker 1: overtime you need to be on the field. Those are

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Speaker 1: the guys late in December and then playoff football you're

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Speaker 1: gonna need to be on your field. And so from

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Speaker 1: an evaluation standpoint, that is when you can really evaluate

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Speaker 1: who the guys you really want to be part of that.

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Speaker 1: Fifty three is day two, Day three of pads. Coming

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Speaker 1: back from a padded practice, knowing the guys are tired,

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Speaker 1: knowing they're a little bit sore, who can still hone

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Speaker 1: in focusing, get a line assignment and still burst to

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Speaker 1: the football and see people with say Barbara Shop that, hey,

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Speaker 1: well this is in real life. If you never play

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Speaker 1: back to back games and pads, this isn't baseball. But

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Speaker 1: of all of the things you're mentioning the mental and

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Speaker 1: physical toughness, emotional toughness to do this and string them together.

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Speaker 1: Here's the other thing I know this. Guys will flash,

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Speaker 1: then they disappear. But it's the guys who don't have

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Speaker 1: to flash. But they're ringing the bell today, they'll ring

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Speaker 1: it tomorrow, even if it's pads, pads, pads. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: mental aspect, that mental toughness takes over wrapping it out

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Speaker 1: in your mind. This mentally, don't let your body. They

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Speaker 1: say fatigue make cowards of us. All they are certain

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Speaker 1: athletes that that's not truth. For they brace the suck.

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Speaker 1: They want that tough. They want that feeling of being

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Speaker 1: exhausted so they can force themselves to push themselves through it.

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Speaker 1: Because then when things get tough, when things start getting

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Speaker 1: the scoreboard don't look like it should and the first

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Speaker 1: day they half didn't go the way it's supposed to.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about that guy coming out

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Speaker 1: at halftime and that you know, not giving it all.

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Speaker 1: He's conditioned himself to. He only goes one way. It's

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Speaker 1: all out, balls against the wall. He gives one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent effort. He's there for you first quarter like he

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Speaker 1: is in the fourth quarter. You're not worrying about him

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Speaker 1: tapping out. And that's what training camps about. You want

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Speaker 1: to build that mentality, that trust, that brotherhood and know, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: I got your back, I'm covering your your six is

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Speaker 1: that military term, but I got your backside. You ain't

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Speaker 1: get worried about this. You look forward, handle your business

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Speaker 1: and I got your back and the back to back pads.

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Speaker 1: That's where you found out the men from the boys.

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Speaker 1: Here's what fascination at Andy Reid. We know he's cutting edge,

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Speaker 1: he's thinking of stuff that nobody's planning for right but

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Speaker 1: in his training regiment. I've had talks how to talk

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Speaker 1: the other day with him about it. He uses an

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Speaker 1: eighteenth century and a nineteenth century military technique that was

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Speaker 1: in Europe, where it is a method of kind of

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Speaker 1: varying speeds. You hit it, you hit it, you hit it,

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Speaker 1: you go medium, then you rest and then but you're

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Speaker 1: ready when you get That's why he gets such great starts,

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Speaker 1: I think. I mean, other than the twenty fourteen season,

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Speaker 1: every year has been off to where a good start.

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Speaker 1: I guess the one in five wasn't great in fifteen.

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Speaker 1: But the point is he's got a training regiment that

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Speaker 1: is again it's so old school, it's new school. But

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Speaker 1: how much is he trying to see guys who can

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Speaker 1: handle it? Because this is all calculated by him. This

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Speaker 1: is a go wow, let's go pads to day and

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Speaker 1: see what we got. He was thinking about this all

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Speaker 1: the way back in February and March. That's where I'm

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Speaker 1: fascinated with this guy. Yeah, and I think it is.

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Speaker 1: It trickles down through the offensive coinity defensive cordet. You

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Speaker 1: just when you're at training camp, listen, open up your ears,

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Speaker 1: make sure you just don't get mesmerized by what's going

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Speaker 1: on the field. Listen to coach b enemy, Listen to

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Speaker 1: coach spags, Listen to the position coaches. Go fast, go fast,

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Speaker 1: you're him say it over, go finish, go fast, Let's go,

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Speaker 1: let's go, let's go, let's go. We gotta go, we

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Speaker 1: gotta go. You know, in the huddle, out the huddle,

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Speaker 1: off the field, next, next squad up, you know, next drill.

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Speaker 1: They want them to be pushing themselves to go see

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Speaker 1: how fast you can process the information. Because if you

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Speaker 1: can overload your system and still get it done here

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Speaker 1: in training camp, when you're tired and when it's back

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Speaker 1: to back and you're your legs are tired and you're exhausted,

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Speaker 1: game day becomes easy. And then the coaches can really

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Speaker 1: start throwing things at you and making adjustments, making changes

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Speaker 1: because they've seen how you face adversity and overcome it. Well,

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Speaker 1: now that trust factor comes and they trust you can

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Speaker 1: handle it, they're able to move on to the next

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Speaker 1: phase of things. And so, like you said, Andy is

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Speaker 1: using something from the archives of military from the eighteenth century,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's it's proven today to still work, and so, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, he knows he's forgetting more. He's forgotten more

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Speaker 1: football than Avenue in my life. So we take our

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Speaker 1: hats off the coach. Coach agree, and he's strategic and

519
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Speaker 1: he loves to build tough teams, and he is tough.

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Speaker 1: People look at him. He's got a nice guy and

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Speaker 1: well he's grandpa. You know, he's got great grandkids and

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Speaker 1: a family and stuff. I'm telling you, the dude is tough,

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Speaker 1: and he eats up these pad practices. He's seeing everything

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Speaker 1: and it's, uh, it is fun to watch it. Final

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Speaker 1: thing as we move on here at training camp is

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Speaker 1: because there will be days in shells. Then then they'll

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Speaker 1: have a day off mandatory. But how much is building

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Speaker 1: one week on the next important for these guys, particularly

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Speaker 1: when you go back because here's the deal. You're in pads,

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Speaker 1: you're in pads, whoop shells, day off, you go right

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Speaker 1: back to pass. How about building on a week to week? Well,

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Speaker 1: ain't no warming up, right, Uh, it's pedal to the metal.

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Speaker 1: When when when, when it's trying to put those pads on,

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Speaker 1: I would I'm I feel sorry for the guy who

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Speaker 1: thinks that there's gonna be a period or two of uh,

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Speaker 1: let's ease into this thing. When the pads are on

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Speaker 1: and you walk down that hill, you better be lathered

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Speaker 1: up ready to go because they jump right into seven

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Speaker 1: on seven, nine on the one on one. Uh. These

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Speaker 1: are contract contact, high intensity drills, and like I said,

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Speaker 1: you gotta be ready to roll. So whether you're coming

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Speaker 1: back from a day off, lick your wounds, get your rest.

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Speaker 1: But when you wake up that morning, you know those

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Speaker 1: pads going on, you better be rearing with that. The

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Speaker 1: RPM's repped real high, because it's gonna be. It's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be. It's gonna be one of those days

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Speaker 1: where he's saying, you run around like that like the

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Speaker 1: grounds on fire. Well, we're gonna stay on fire with

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Speaker 1: the podcasts, all right, barber Shop, we just keep moving

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Speaker 1: forward in camp. Here's the barber shop. I am the

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Speaker 1: voice as I hope to see it in Saint Joe.

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Speaker 1: Come up and say hi, and of course, enjoy our

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Speaker 1: other podcasts in the Trenches with BJ and Nick Lucky.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna keep bringing it from here in Saint Joe.

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Speaker 1: And yes we'll put the pads back on. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: listening to the Chief's Official podcast network to touch Down,

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