WEBVTT - Why do some particles die?

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<v Speaker 1>Or Hey, just starting a new decade? Make you feel

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<v Speaker 1>young or old? What? It's a new decade. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be very soon when this podcast comes out, it will well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it makes me feel a little bit of both.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I feel you old? You old? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>a quantum superposition of young and old kids? It's both

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<v Speaker 1>in neither. Well, here's something that might make you feel

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<v Speaker 1>kind of young. Oh, this is this invent the Fountain

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<v Speaker 1>of Youth. Still running a grand application for that project.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know it's more a sense of perspective. All right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it? I'll take it. Well, did you know

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<v Speaker 1>that the particles in your body are more than thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>billion years old? Compared to that, you're like a baby. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>you're telling me that I'm a billion years old and

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<v Speaker 1>that's supposed to make me feel young. Maybe it just

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<v Speaker 1>means you need a n APP. Sounds good, calculatory. Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jorge. I'm a cartoonists and the creator of PhD Comics.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi I'm Daniel. I'm a particle physicist and I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>many many particles pass away. Welcome to a new decade

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<v Speaker 1>of our podcast. Daniel and Jorge explain the Universe, a

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<v Speaker 1>production of I Heart Radio, in which we venture forth

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<v Speaker 1>into a whole new decade and try to understand the universe,

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<v Speaker 1>a decade perhaps in which we will reveal new secrets

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<v Speaker 1>about the universe that nobody in human history has ever understood.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. We like to talk about the planets and

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<v Speaker 1>the stars and the cosmos, but also the little tiny

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<v Speaker 1>things in the universe, the particles that we're all made

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<v Speaker 1>out of and that are all around us all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that you said we like to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>a particle. Sometimes I think it's just me. Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>using the Royal We, the Physicist podcast Arial We. But yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I do like to talk about particles because I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>in the end, we're all made of particles, and if

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<v Speaker 1>we want to understand the universe, we got to start

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning, the smallest, the littlest nuggets. And if

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<v Speaker 1>we understand the way the universe works at these smallest scales,

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<v Speaker 1>then we have a chance to maybe understand the way

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<v Speaker 1>things work at larger scales. Yeah, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that as human as we tend to kind of forget

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<v Speaker 1>that fact. You know, we're made out of tiny, little

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<v Speaker 1>molecules and atoms and tiny little particles. We I think

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<v Speaker 1>we love to think of ourselves as as these sort

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<v Speaker 1>of ethereal thinking beings, but really we're just like a

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<v Speaker 1>giant lego set of particles, right, Yeah, And ever since

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<v Speaker 1>I learned about quantum mechanics and the frothing vacuum and

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<v Speaker 1>how particles are popping in out of existence at all times,

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<v Speaker 1>it gives a different sense for what you are. You

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<v Speaker 1>are a collection of particles, but that set of particles

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<v Speaker 1>is changing, so you're more like a storm, like a cloud.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like an excitation of the space in which you

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<v Speaker 1>were living. He gives a different sense for what it

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<v Speaker 1>means to be you. And that's why I want to

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<v Speaker 1>understand the universe from the smallest scale, because it tells

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<v Speaker 1>us what it's like to be us, what it means

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<v Speaker 1>to be a thing. Well, I am definitely hopefully a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm definitely in a state of excitation. And I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say that I did get a fronting vacuum

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<v Speaker 1>for Christmas, so I'm glad you. Does that mean that

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<v Speaker 1>it makes phone for your coffee while it cleans the kitchen? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's a multitasker's dream. I'll have the cappuccino

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<v Speaker 1>vacuum please. Yeah. So, so today we'll be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the things that everyone is made out of. You, me, this,

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<v Speaker 1>this um microphone that I'm speaking to, those speakers that

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<v Speaker 1>are broadcasting our voices. Everything is made out of particles.

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<v Speaker 1>And some people might be surprised, maybe or maybe not,

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<v Speaker 1>that particles don't last forever. That's right, particles are not

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<v Speaker 1>forever as far as we know. But there are kind

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<v Speaker 1>of two different kinds of particles. There's the particles that

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<v Speaker 1>make up me and you, and as we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>in the podcast, those are mostly three different particles up quarks,

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<v Speaker 1>down quirks, and electrons. But then we talk about all

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<v Speaker 1>these other particles higgs bosons, top quarks, w bosons, and

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<v Speaker 1>those particles aren't around. You don't like find a pile

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<v Speaker 1>of them under rock somewhere, and that's because they don't

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<v Speaker 1>last very long. They flash into existence and then they

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<v Speaker 1>die very quickly. Hey, can I choose what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>quarks I'm made out of? Like? Can I be up

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<v Speaker 1>corks all the time. I don't know what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>special powers you have as a cartoonist, but if you're

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<v Speaker 1>made of protons and neutrons, and there's not a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot of flexibility, so some of them disappear and some

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<v Speaker 1>of them are born all the time. Um, And so

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the podcast will be sort of tackling

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<v Speaker 1>that crazy phenomenon of what makes particles come into and

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<v Speaker 1>out of existence. Why is it that some particles were

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<v Speaker 1>born in the Big Bang and are still around, whereas

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<v Speaker 1>other particles only get to lie tend to the minus

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three seconds in our universe. So to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast, we'll be talking about why do particles die?

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<v Speaker 1>It make it sound so sad, you know, Oh, I see?

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<v Speaker 1>Why do particles move on? We talk about why particles

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<v Speaker 1>are born and what they've accomplished in their brief, beautiful lives.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, why do particles go to Grandpa's farm where

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<v Speaker 1>they're running happily and jumping over streams streams of particles?

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<v Speaker 1>They go to the particle reserve where they're well taken

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<v Speaker 1>care of. And here's another example of where we're sort

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<v Speaker 1>of anthropomorphizing particles. Right, Particles definitely don't have feelings and

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<v Speaker 1>emotions and families and Thanksgiving dinners, but we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>them as if they are born and as if they die,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it just helps us connect to them,

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<v Speaker 1>it helps us think about them. So some particles decay

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<v Speaker 1>and others don't. So some particles die and some of

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<v Speaker 1>them live forever? Is that true? Can some particles live

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<v Speaker 1>from the beginning of time till the end of time?

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<v Speaker 1>We can never say for sure. All we can say

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<v Speaker 1>is what we've seen and were in. Some particles, like electrons,

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<v Speaker 1>we have never seen them decay, so we can estimate

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<v Speaker 1>how long the lifetime of an electron is based on

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<v Speaker 1>never having seen any of them decay and having looked

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<v Speaker 1>at a lot of them, And the current estimate is

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<v Speaker 1>like seventeen ga jillion years. Now it might be is

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<v Speaker 1>that is that? The is? What that in a paper?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I rounded up at six point nine gajillion years.

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<v Speaker 1>But the point is we make some statistical statement and

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<v Speaker 1>say it must be longer than this very very big number,

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<v Speaker 1>much longer than the age of the universe, or we

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<v Speaker 1>would have seen when decay. But we can never be sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's the same with a proton. They're pretty stable.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you put an electron in a jar, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna sit there. It's never gonna turn into anything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's never going to I guess collide with something and

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<v Speaker 1>turn into something else. Is that possible? Oh, it certainly

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<v Speaker 1>could actually could get absorbed and then disappeared. But an

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<v Speaker 1>electron in isolation could you to sit there forever, the

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<v Speaker 1>same way a photon can fly across the universe for

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<v Speaker 1>billions of years and still be a photon. But other particles,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you put a neutron in a jar or

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<v Speaker 1>a top cork in a jar, and it will spontaneously decay,

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<v Speaker 1>will turn into other stuff. Some of the particles that

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<v Speaker 1>I am made out of might be zillions of years old,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of them could be, you know, three years old. Yeah, Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>most of them are billions of years old. If you

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<v Speaker 1>were looking to feel young, that's not the way to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. I'd like to focus on the young part

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<v Speaker 1>of me, Daniel, I'm young inside. Yeah. And so in

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<v Speaker 1>particle physics, the technical term we use is that some

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<v Speaker 1>particles are stable. We think they just hang out forever,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't do anything, and other particles are unstable because

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<v Speaker 1>they decay into other particles. And so this is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of an interesting word, decay and particle using them for particles,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we were wondering, as usual, how many people

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<v Speaker 1>out there associate the two works together and know about

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<v Speaker 1>this process that all particles go through or don't go through. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I walked around campus a UC Irvine and I

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<v Speaker 1>asked people if they knew that heavier particles can decay

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<v Speaker 1>into lighter particles and why it happens. So think about

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<v Speaker 1>it for a second. How much do you know about

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<v Speaker 1>particle decay? And what would you be able to answer

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<v Speaker 1>if Daniel appros you on the street one day. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>what people had to say. Do you know that particles decay? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. Yes. Do you know why that happens? No? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know why that happens? I'm gonna say energy emissions? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know why that happens? A great active decay?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what is it? I just know that if

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<v Speaker 1>as too many neutrons and it's center, it's like unstable,

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<v Speaker 1>so they can't I'll stay they shut off. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>did not know that. I don't know because like there's

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of potentials high for them. I'm actually not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know why that happens? Uh? No, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do know, like the half life of particles, and so

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<v Speaker 1>all right, a couple of yes and no answers. None

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<v Speaker 1>of the answers changed, none of the answers decayed. They're

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<v Speaker 1>all stable in their ignorance of this question. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>some people said yes, and are you saying they maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they said yes, but they didn't really know. Some people

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<v Speaker 1>said yes, they know that it does happen, but they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't really clear on why. And when I pressed them,

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<v Speaker 1>they just sort of described the process that happens, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like they have short lifetimes. That's like asking, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>why does something I have a short lifetime? Because it

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<v Speaker 1>has a short lifetime. There isn't really there wasn't really

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<v Speaker 1>much understanding for why it happens, Like why can these

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<v Speaker 1>heavy particles not just stick around forever? I see? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>some people said radioactive decay, But that's that's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit different, right, that's when a whole atom sort of

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<v Speaker 1>breaks down, not a particular particle. Yeah, it's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit different, but it's actually the same thing because what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on inside radioactive decay is just a particle decay.

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<v Speaker 1>It has an impact on the rest of the Atomate

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<v Speaker 1>changes the automate changes a neutron into a proton and

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<v Speaker 1>that changes what the atom is. But radioactive decay is

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<v Speaker 1>actually just an example of one of the particles inside

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<v Speaker 1>the atom decay. Oh wow, so it's like a Russian doll. Yeah, precisely.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's what reality is. It's like Russian dolls, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you get these layers and layers of reality. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>all leads back to Russia. We were going to try

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid politics on the show, but it's the new

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<v Speaker 1>in the New decade. We're not doing politics, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So pretty good answers. And I have to admit I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why particle decay. I know that they decay,

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<v Speaker 1>and they sometimes spontaneously trying to do other things, but

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<v Speaker 1>I also don't know why some of them don't decay.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of puzzling to me. So let's get into

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<v Speaker 1>a Daniel. Well, let's maybe define for people first, what

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<v Speaker 1>is particle decay. Yeah, decay is a funny word because

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<v Speaker 1>it implies like you've died and your bits are sort

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<v Speaker 1>of falling apart and blowing away in the winds really dramatically, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But really, by decay, we just mean that a particle

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<v Speaker 1>turns into other particles like it's it was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>particle and then an instant later it's like it's broke apart.

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<v Speaker 1>Did break apart or does it transform? Yeah, that's exactly it.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't break apart. It transforms like when a higgs

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<v Speaker 1>boson turns into a pair of bottom corks, which it

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<v Speaker 1>likes to do. It's not like it was made out

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<v Speaker 1>of a pair of bottom quarks and it broke up

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<v Speaker 1>into those. This is not like you're taking a molecule

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<v Speaker 1>of water and splitting it into the hydrogen and the

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<v Speaker 1>oxygen that you can do. But when particles decay, they

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<v Speaker 1>transform from one kind of matter to another. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>it's alchemy. So the higgs boson was not made of

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<v Speaker 1>bottom quarks. It transformed from higgs boson into a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of bottom corks. It's kind of like when the Beatles

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<v Speaker 1>broke up. It's not that they it's almost up. Good,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad, I'm right, Okay. So it's not like a

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<v Speaker 1>case like it breaks down, but it's more like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it just decide it to be something else totally. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not like it's making a decision, right, It's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's alive and his moods and it's like today

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not feeling it. I just want to be be

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<v Speaker 1>corks today. How do you know, Daniel, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>know his bosons? I've interviewed them. They're not very insightful.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk to them to find out that they don't talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what you're saying. I try to interview them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, their agent never calls me back, so you

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<v Speaker 1>know they're super important or they have nothing to say.

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<v Speaker 1>And we see the same process happened for lots of

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<v Speaker 1>other particles and not to the Higgs boson. Right, Really,

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<v Speaker 1>the neutron decays into a proton, and when it does so,

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<v Speaker 1>it kicks out an electron and some neutrino um. The

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<v Speaker 1>top cork decays into a W and a B corks.

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<v Speaker 1>This kind of stuff happens all the time. Like, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you mean It kicks out like it transformed into

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<v Speaker 1>one thing and another thing, but one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>flies away. Yeah, a particle can turns. We'll get into

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<v Speaker 1>this a little bit later. There are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>rules for how particles decay, but one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>important one is that a particle cannot decay into one

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<v Speaker 1>other single particle. It can only decay into multiple particles.

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<v Speaker 1>So when a neutron decase, It decays into a proton

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<v Speaker 1>and an electron and an anti neutrino. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>what we called beta decay. This is actually what happens

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<v Speaker 1>inside the nucleus when an atom radioactively decays, is that

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<v Speaker 1>one of the neutrons is turned into a proton. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is all kind of that quantum mechanical magic. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>say magic, not magic, quantum mechanical wizardry. Science. Man's you

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<v Speaker 1>used to word alchemy? How is that any different? Alchemy

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<v Speaker 1>is science. For a long time people thought it was nonsense, impossible,

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<v Speaker 1>but then it turns out it's actually possible. We do

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<v Speaker 1>it all the time, so it's been brought back into science.

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<v Speaker 1>Well maybe he'll disabill happen for a wizardry. Okay, alright, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll compromise. We'll call it quantum witching about that in

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<v Speaker 1>one way? Is that a compromise? I don't quite understand,

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<v Speaker 1>But all right, it's quantum something. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess what it's. What I mean is that it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like things are like you said. They don't break

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<v Speaker 1>apart into into the parts that they're made out of.

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<v Speaker 1>They literally sort of like become a ball of for

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<v Speaker 1>more deal energy, and then that energy transforms into other things. Yeah, precisely,

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<v Speaker 1>you're converting one kind of matter into another kind of matter.

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<v Speaker 1>And that seems really strange, right, like where did it go?

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<v Speaker 1>But remember all of these things are particles, and particles

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<v Speaker 1>are just excited states of the quantum fields. Space is

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<v Speaker 1>filled with these fields, and sometimes they ripple, and those

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<v Speaker 1>ripples are particles. So we're really talking about is moving

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<v Speaker 1>energy from one quantum field, like the Higgs field, into

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<v Speaker 1>another quantum field, like the field for bottom corks. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like the excitation passes from one field to the other. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>just like a wave can move from one kind of

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<v Speaker 1>fluid into another kind of fluid. Or when you strum

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<v Speaker 1>a guitar string, you're changing the shaking of the guitar

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<v Speaker 1>string into the shaking of the air. Interesting, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we go back to the Beatles because it's it is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like the loneliest guitar. All right, Yeah, go

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<v Speaker 1>you win. You're right, it's just like the Beatles. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what we call particle decay or particle death.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that. I mean, that's what we mean when

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<v Speaker 1>when we asked the question why do some particles die

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<v Speaker 1>because basically the elect the first particle that was there

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<v Speaker 1>basically stops existing, stops existing, and something else exists. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's and it's bits are no longer there. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if the Higgs boson is made of smaller

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<v Speaker 1>bits right now we think of it. It's just fundamental.

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<v Speaker 1>But whatever it is is no longer around. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just getting taken apart and rearranged like Jigsaw puscles into

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<v Speaker 1>something else, like Lego pieces into something else. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>getting transformed. And that's what we mean. You mean the

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<v Speaker 1>Higgs is not made out of little Higgy's um. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the Lego company has a copyrun on that name,

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<v Speaker 1>so we should avoid using it, all right, So that

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<v Speaker 1>and so it really dies, right, it's like it's no

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<v Speaker 1>longer in the universe. Yeah, it's gone. And so we

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<v Speaker 1>make particles like this in collisions all the time. We

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<v Speaker 1>collide protons together, we make some heavy particle z W

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<v Speaker 1>a top cork, Higgs boson, something else, and they live

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<v Speaker 1>for like ten to the minus twenty three seconds before

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<v Speaker 1>they turn into something else. And you know, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>makes it so hard to study these particles that they're

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<v Speaker 1>not around for very long, so it's hard to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to them. Wow. Well, it seems like some particles are

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<v Speaker 1>alive quote unquote for ten to the minus twenty three seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of them are live for seven bizillion years.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems unfair, doesn't it. All right, so let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into why that is and what causes a particle to

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<v Speaker 1>decay or not. But first let's take a quick break,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Daniel, So why does it happen? Why the

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<v Speaker 1>particles have to die? The key thing to understand is

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a difference in the mass of these particles.

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<v Speaker 1>So higher mass particles like the Higgs, like the top

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<v Speaker 1>they decay into lower mass particles. And this makes simple

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<v Speaker 1>sense because of conservation of energy. If you have a

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<v Speaker 1>high mass particle just at rest all of its energies

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<v Speaker 1>in its mass. If it turns into other particles, those

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<v Speaker 1>particles have to have lower mass, otherwise you'd be violating

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<v Speaker 1>conservation of energy. Oh, I see, And it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a spontaneous event, right, Like nothing triggers it. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like it bumped into something and it broke up, or

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<v Speaker 1>you shot you shot a particle at it and then

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<v Speaker 1>that caused the transformation. It's like it was just sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there and because it had too much, too much mass,

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<v Speaker 1>it just suddenly breaks up. Yeah, it's spontaneous. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>need to be triggered from anything from the outside. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's also random. So if you have like a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>Higgs bosons and you have them all in an array

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere and you watch them, some of them would decay

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<v Speaker 1>very quickly and some of them would live a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit longer, and it's a distribution there. So we can

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<v Speaker 1>predict the probability of the Higgs boson decaying after a

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<v Speaker 1>certain time. You can't predict it for an individual one

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<v Speaker 1>because it's quantum mechanical. But we know, like what the

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<v Speaker 1>average lifespan is a Eiggs boson, where the average lifespan

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<v Speaker 1>is of a top cork, and it's totally random, Like

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<v Speaker 1>what what I guess? What triggers a death the death

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<v Speaker 1>of a particle. That's the deepest question in quantum mechanics, right.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that physics predicts the probability of things happening

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<v Speaker 1>at various times, but we don't know how the universe

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<v Speaker 1>makes a decision about what's going to happen when you

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<v Speaker 1>know in which Shortinger's boxes the cat alive or dead.

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<v Speaker 1>This is exactly that question, because the way the Shortinger's

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<v Speaker 1>box works, if you have an atom inside the box

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<v Speaker 1>that can decay or not decay, and it has a

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<v Speaker 1>certain lifespan, and if it's already decayed, that's killed the cat.

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<v Speaker 1>And if it hasn't decated, hasn't killed the cat. And

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<v Speaker 1>what makes a decision for an individual box We don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>The universe has some mysteriously not magical um which he

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<v Speaker 1>dies somewhere that makes those decisions. I see, it's not magic,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just mysterious. It is mysterious. Now. It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>my deepest questions about the universe is how it picks

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<v Speaker 1>random numbers. Where is the universe's random numbers generator? How's

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<v Speaker 1>that work? Um and and way. That's a deep fascinating question.

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<v Speaker 1>But the key thing to understand is that higher mass

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<v Speaker 1>particles decay into lower mass particles. Right that that you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like the Golden rule of particle decay. Yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>is actually something called the Golden rule, and it helps

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<v Speaker 1>you sort of do that do onto other particles. As

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<v Speaker 1>other particles we do onto you. Yeah, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how particles behave and if they're nice to each other

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<v Speaker 1>or not, but firm me. The golden rule helps you

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<v Speaker 1>understand sort of why lower mass particles are more likely

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<v Speaker 1>to exist in the universe than higher mass Like, why

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<v Speaker 1>don't higher energy, lower mass particles turn into high mass

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<v Speaker 1>particles all the time. Why does it mostly go the

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<v Speaker 1>other way? Why do things sort of move down the

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<v Speaker 1>mass ladder? Well, to to make something heavier rooting, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to collide with something else and then from that

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<v Speaker 1>you can like join together. Yeah, and that's exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>we do in particle collisions. We make these heavy particles

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<v Speaker 1>very briefly by smashing lower mass particles with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of energy together, So we have enough energy to create

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<v Speaker 1>these high mass particles. But then you might wonder, like,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't they just stick around? Why don't high mass

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<v Speaker 1>particles just sit there being high mass particles forever? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And is that also a rule? I mean, so, the

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<v Speaker 1>one rule is that you can only decay do things

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<v Speaker 1>that are less massive than you, so kind of basically smaller,

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<v Speaker 1>lighter things. That's one rule. The other rule seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be that maybe the like the more mass you have,

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<v Speaker 1>the more the quicker you are you're going to decay.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a correlation also in like if you have

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<v Speaker 1>more mass, the less life you have. Yes, that's certainly true.

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<v Speaker 1>The more mass you have, the more likely you are

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<v Speaker 1>to decay quickly. Also, the more ways you have to decay,

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<v Speaker 1>the more ways you're allowed to decay, the more rapidly

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to decay. So if you have a really

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<v Speaker 1>heavy particle but it can only decay via like the

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<v Speaker 1>weak force, then it's gonna be around for longer because

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<v Speaker 1>the weak force doesn't act for often. It's very weak.

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<v Speaker 1>Where if you can decay via the strong force hydronically,

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<v Speaker 1>then you can decay very very quickly because the strong

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<v Speaker 1>force is very powerful. Oh so it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>if it has a lot of options, then it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to take one of those options sooner or later precisely.

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<v Speaker 1>And the way I like to think about it is

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<v Speaker 1>that these particles sort of like to relax. They start

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<v Speaker 1>out in these very high mass states, and you think

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<v Speaker 1>of it like having a lot of tension, and it

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<v Speaker 1>wants to relax down to the lower mass the way

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of water likes to flow downhill, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>everything in the universe likes to spread out and cool

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<v Speaker 1>down and and sort of smooth out, and being in

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<v Speaker 1>lower mass states is more smooth, has less energy sort

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<v Speaker 1>of concentrated in one place. So maybe we should rename

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<v Speaker 1>this episode why the particles like to relax? Why are

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<v Speaker 1>particles so smooth? All right? So what you're saying, um,

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<v Speaker 1>this death of this decay, this transformation is really just

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<v Speaker 1>like the universe kind of reverting or going towards the

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<v Speaker 1>lowest possible energy state. Yeah, imagine what happens, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>when you strum a guitar string, right, let's go back

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<v Speaker 1>to that. You have a lot of energy stored in

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<v Speaker 1>the guitar string. But then that guitar string interacts with

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<v Speaker 1>other stuff, right, It can bump into air molecules and

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<v Speaker 1>give it some of its energy, and then the sound

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<v Speaker 1>spreads out through the air and you enjoy the music

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<v Speaker 1>of the Beatles. This is just energy dissipating, right. Why

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<v Speaker 1>it is energy dissipated. It dissipates because of entropy, because

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<v Speaker 1>things like to spread out, things like they get more smooth,

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<v Speaker 1>and so in the same way, you can think of

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<v Speaker 1>a particle sort of like as the strumming of a

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<v Speaker 1>quantum field, it's like a field that's oscillating, and if

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<v Speaker 1>that field can talk to other fields, like the Higgs

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<v Speaker 1>field can talk to the bottom core field, that it

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<v Speaker 1>has a way to sort of spread out into those

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<v Speaker 1>other fields. It's like it's louder and so it it

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<v Speaker 1>can reach other fields better. Yeah, Or it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's in a box and there are more holes in

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<v Speaker 1>the box, so it can spread out. If there are

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<v Speaker 1>lots of really big holes in the box, that it

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<v Speaker 1>can get out, whereas if you put it in a

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<v Speaker 1>box and there's almost no holes and it's gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>a long time for that energy to leak out. And

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<v Speaker 1>so the lower the mass, then the more stable you are. Precisely,

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<v Speaker 1>and if there's no particle with or mass than you,

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<v Speaker 1>than your stable because you can't spread out anymore. So

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<v Speaker 1>the particles at the bottom of the rungs that have

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<v Speaker 1>no particles below them, then they can't decay to anything

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<v Speaker 1>else and so they are stuck. And that's the situation

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<v Speaker 1>with the electron, because there's nothing with a less mass

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<v Speaker 1>then you or or do you have to do also

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<v Speaker 1>with the rules of particles, like an electron can just

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<v Speaker 1>turn into a super light I don't know, quark or

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<v Speaker 1>higgs or something. Yeah, there has to be something with

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<v Speaker 1>less mass than you that you are also allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>decay into. So, for example, a muan can decay into

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<v Speaker 1>an electron, it also has to create two neutrinos at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time for other rules, but the opposite can't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Electrons don't decay into muans because muons are heavier than

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<v Speaker 1>electrons and the electrons are the are the lightest ones,

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<v Speaker 1>right Tows and muans can both decay into electrons electrons

0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the bottom of the ladder, but electrons can't decay into

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<v Speaker 1>corks and whatever. And there's all sorts of rules preventing

0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:01.080
<v Speaker 1>some kind of decays from happening. So um, as long

0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:02.760
<v Speaker 1>as you're not breaking one of the rules, you always

0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 1>decay into the lightest particle around. Oh I see. So,

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 1>like a muon can't decay into something that's not an electron,

0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:13.960
<v Speaker 1>muans almost always decay into electrons. Sometimes a particle will

0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:16.880
<v Speaker 1>have several things that can decay into. So for example,

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the higgs can decay into a pair of bottoms, but

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:21.159
<v Speaker 1>it can also decay into a pair of photons or

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:24.000
<v Speaker 1>a pair of w bosons or something else, or a

0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:26.919
<v Speaker 1>pair of charm corks or even a pair of electrons.

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<v Speaker 1>So sometimes a particle will have lots of different places

0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:31.520
<v Speaker 1>it can go, all right, So there are sort of

0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:35.280
<v Speaker 1>rules to these decays, but generally they follow that rule,

0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 1>like if you decay, you're going to decay into lower

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:41.639
<v Speaker 1>mass particles until you hit the bottom, until you're like

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the gopher, and then working in the mail room. You

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:48.199
<v Speaker 1>can't get fired demoted more than that. Yeah, it's just

0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 1>like that. It's like getting fired down the hierarchy. And

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:54.199
<v Speaker 1>once you're at the bottom, you know, um, then you

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 1>can hang on forever. I guess it's not like having

0:24:57.720 --> 0:24:59.640
<v Speaker 1>a job, because you could get kicked down this street.

0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:02.200
<v Speaker 1>But I guess maybe stable particles are the unemployed ones

0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:05.160
<v Speaker 1>in this analogy. Right, Oh, there you go. You don't

0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:07.159
<v Speaker 1>have a job, so you can't get fired, all right.

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:10.399
<v Speaker 1>And so then that's why some particles never never decay

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 1>like electrons. You're saying, they can't decay in to anything lighter,

0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:18.320
<v Speaker 1>and so they just hang around forever. As far as

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 1>we know, they hang around forever. I mean, we don't

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 1>know that we know all the list of particles that

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:25.440
<v Speaker 1>are out there but for the electron to decay into

0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 1>a lighter particle, there would have to be another particle

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:30.159
<v Speaker 1>out there that we hadn't heard it before, and it

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 1>would have to interact with the electron. So it has

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:35.320
<v Speaker 1>to be some force that couples the electron to this

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:37.719
<v Speaker 1>particle to allow to decay, to create sort of that

0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:40.120
<v Speaker 1>hole in the box, to let the electron turn into

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:42.920
<v Speaker 1>that other particle. Um. And you know, there are other

0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>particles like neutrinos, but electrons can't decay into neutrinos because

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:50.160
<v Speaker 1>that violates one of the rules, like electrons have a charge,

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 1>neutrinos don't. So you can't turn electron into a neutrino

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 1>because then where does the charge go. There has to

0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 1>be conservation not just of mass, but also all these

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 1>other quantum magical quantities. Yeah, and we have this whole

0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:05.359
<v Speaker 1>list and we'll go into it in a minute for

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 1>all the rules of particles have to follow in the decay.

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 1>And the things to understand about that is that this

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:13.159
<v Speaker 1>is just a list of rules we invented um to

0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:15.680
<v Speaker 1>sort of describe the things that don't happen. We're like, well,

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 1>this doesn't happen. Why not, Well, let's make a rule

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 1>that says it can happen. That doesn't mean we know

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 1>why the rule is there, right, It's just we've noticed

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 1>this never happens, and so there must be a reason.

0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 1>We just don't know yet. It's not it's not so

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:32.879
<v Speaker 1>it's not it's less rules, but more like trends or

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, things we've never seen happen. Yeah, and our

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 1>goal is to make the sort of minimal set of trends,

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 1>like what's the minimal set of rules you need to

0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:44.920
<v Speaker 1>describe everything we've seen. And then we look at those

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:46.639
<v Speaker 1>and we say, well, do this makes sense? And what

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 1>does it mean about the universe? And can we find

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 1>a reason why these rules have to exist and stuff

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:54.720
<v Speaker 1>like that, And so what are some of the other

0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:58.639
<v Speaker 1>particles that also live forever? The quarks lift forever. The

0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:01.359
<v Speaker 1>up corks and the down corps do live forever. Yes,

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 1>there are no lighter quarks, right. The charm cork and

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 1>the strange cork, those are heavier, and so they decay

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:09.680
<v Speaker 1>into the up and the down and the top cork.

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 1>In the bottom cork they're even heavier, so they decay

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:15.400
<v Speaker 1>also down the ladder to charm and strange and then

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 1>into up and down. So literally every particle in my

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:22.400
<v Speaker 1>body then is is as old as time itself. All

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 1>the particles in your body are just three different kinds

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>of particles up quarks, down quirks, and electrons. And I

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 1>think that those particles have been around since just after

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:32.719
<v Speaker 1>the Big Bang. None of my particles have were created

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:36.919
<v Speaker 1>more recently than that. It's not because you can create

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 1>those particles. You know, if for example, one of the

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:43.080
<v Speaker 1>electrons in your body hits a piece of antimatter coming

0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 1>from a cosmic ray, it can get annihilated into a photon,

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>and then that photon lives very briefly and turns back

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 1>into an electron and positron, so then it's been reborn.

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:55.199
<v Speaker 1>Right in that sense, These particles are always having interaction

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 1>and and sometimes they get they disappear and come back.

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:01.160
<v Speaker 1>So some of these electrons have been born more recently,

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:03.879
<v Speaker 1>but it's possible for an electron to stick around the

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 1>whole lifetime in the universe. Yeah, every particle that I

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>am made out of was made at the Big Bang,

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 1>or you know, it was there when it all happened.

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 1>It's got stories to tell around. Yeah. Oh, if you

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 1>could interview particles, if only they could talk. Part If

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:24.320
<v Speaker 1>these particles could talk, these particles could talk, they probably

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 1>tell stories like in old folks homes, you know, while

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 1>when I was a kid and I have an onion

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:32.200
<v Speaker 1>on my belt and the universe was young. You think

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:35.439
<v Speaker 1>you have it bad now? We had to live through

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the hot plasma. Yeah, I think. I think about what

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 1>it was like in the Big Bang. We have to

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>walk up hill both ways, all right, So that is

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of what happens is when particles die. And so

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 1>let's get into a little bit more of what these

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 1>rules are in more detail and what they mean for

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>us as billion of year old beings. But first let's

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 1>take a quick break. Yeah, all right, Daniel. So particles die, unfortunately,

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 1>is just the way of the universe. Uh. And then,

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 1>and that means that particles sometimes, if they're too heavy,

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>they will transform into lower energy particles until you get

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 1>to a certain types of particles which apparently never decay,

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 1>like quorcs and electrons. Yeah, and not just lower energy particles,

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 1>lower mass particles or lighter particles. As we have this

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 1>rung of particles and they decay down, down down the rung,

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and they get to the bottom of the ladder, and

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 1>they can't decay any further. And the particles ever spontaneously

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 1>go up the ladder. Absolutely they do. If they get

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:52.239
<v Speaker 1>a burst of energy, they absorb some energy, then they

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 1>can go up the ladder. And that's exactly the kind

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 1>of thing we do in particle collisions, is that we

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>bring particles together with a lot of energy and low mass,

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and we create we push them up the ladder briefly,

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>because our question is like what particles are on the ladder,

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 1>how far up the ladder can you go. It's like

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>we're swimming in very cold, cold universe and we're trying

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 1>to climb up the ladder to see like what could exist,

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 1>what used to exist. So we create these pockets, momentary

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>pockets of density to push a particle up the ladder

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 1>to see like, oh look you can make top quarks.

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh look you can make Higgs bosons. Yeah, And so

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>that kind of answers the question why the particles die

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 1>is that that's just kind of the way of the universe.

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Nothing heavy last forever. That's the kind of caveat right,

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 1>like something's last forever. But if you're too heavy, you're

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 1>not gonna last for a long time. I feel like

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 1>that should be on your tombstone. Nothing heavy lads forever,

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 1>or maybe the you know, the motto of the universe

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>would be like only electrons and quarks last wherever. Yeah,

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>it's true that nothing heavy last forever. It's a deep

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 1>principle of the universe that things spread out. You know,

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 1>it's connected to entropy that things tend to like to

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 1>transform into more relaxed states and the ones with more disorder,

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 1>and the things that lower mass particles, they just have

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of different ways to be. Like a higher

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>mass particle, it can basically just sit there. It's used

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 1>up all of its energy to create this particle. But

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>if it decayed into lower mass particles, then there's a

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 1>zillion different arrangements for it, and the universe prefers that.

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>It prefers configurations with lots of different arrangements. It's more disorder,

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 1>and so that's just the way the universe flows. Even

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>for an electron. I guess I'm curious. Even for an electron,

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, we'll probably never decay, but but it can,

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Like can is one of its possibilities that it just

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 1>one day disappears for no no reason and transform into

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, fluton or something. Yeah, potentially, I mean,

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 1>electrons are stable. But again, all these statements that we

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 1>make are statistical. We've never seen an electron decay and so,

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 1>and there are a bunch of rules that prevented from

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:56.720
<v Speaker 1>turning into the particles that are lighter than it, things

0:31:56.800 --> 0:32:00.720
<v Speaker 1>like charge conservation and electron number concert ration, all sorts

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>of other rules we invented just to sort of describe

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 1>the fact that we never see them decay. But in principle,

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 1>there could be some lighter particle of the electron that's

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 1>connected to the electron with some very very weak force

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>that we haven't discovered yet, and eventually, after sixty two

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 1>chillion years, electrons will decay into those other particles. It's possible.

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Was that time you used their chillion chilion just invented it.

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:30.000
<v Speaker 1>But it's technically like the Chilian it's it represents the

0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 1>flow of the universe. Man, Oh dude, yeah, alright, So

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:36.479
<v Speaker 1>I let's getting through these rules because I feel like

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>that's where the meat of this is, right, Like, it's

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 1>not like any particle can just die spontaneously. It has

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 1>to follow some rules that the universe seems to follow

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 1>or maybe not rules. Are these more like we've never

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 1>seen these things happen, but maybe they but they they're

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:58.240
<v Speaker 1>not absolute rules. Maybe. Well, it's that way with all

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>the physics. We see stuff happen. We write down rules

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 1>that we think describes what happens, and that we hope

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 1>those rules are fundamental to the universe. But we could

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 1>be wrong. There could be exceptions to these rules we

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 1>just haven't observed yet. So in the same way, we're like,

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, let's write down all the results of particle

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>physics experiments, and then let's try to simplify that into

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 1>a set of rules that we think describes all those experiments,

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>and then we try to understand those rules, like do

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>they make any sense? And why this rule and why

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 1>of that other rule? Er what are the patterns among

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>the rules. That's sort of the stage we're ad in

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 1>particle physics. So it's it's interesting to think about what

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>these rules are and what they might mean. I see.

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of like you if you dropped an

0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>egg and it broke on the floor, and you dropped

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 1>an egg again, and it broke on the floor, and

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:41.240
<v Speaker 1>you dropped another egg and it's broken the floor, and

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 1>so and your mom is like, why did I have

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 1>an experimentalist as a kid? And so you made a

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 1>rule that set if you drop an egg it'll break. Yeah,

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 1>and that describes what you've seen and and then of

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>course you should test your prediction and try dropping eggs

0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 1>in other people's houses and tom toomps the mountains and

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 1>to see if it is a deep rule of the

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 1>universe or just something specific like if you drop an

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 1>egg on the space station doesn't break. So it turns

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:11.319
<v Speaker 1>out your rule needs to qualifier, right, I see this

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 1>is a special egg breaking rule only in whore his kitchen,

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 1>or only on Earth, or only near objects with gravity.

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>If you drop egg, does this break? Yeah, there's a

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>difference between general eggcticity and special eggticity. All right, So

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:29.880
<v Speaker 1>what are some of the rules that govern particle decay

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 1>and just I guess real quickly here. Yeah. Well, one

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 1>of them we talked about already is that they have

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:36.919
<v Speaker 1>to decay from heavier particles in the lighter particles because

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 1>of conservation of energy. The other is that electric charge

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 1>has to be conserved, so electrons, for example, can't decay

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>into neutrinos um muans have to decay into electrons. They

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 1>can't decay into positrons. You have to conserve because the

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 1>universe can't do anything with that extra charge. Is that

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 1>it it's like it has to do thing with it. Yeah, precisely,

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 1>electric charge is conserved. The universe cannot create or just

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 1>destroy electric charge. It sticks around, and that's not something

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 1>we understand why. But we've noticed that that it's the

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 1>case that electric charge is always conserved. I guess my

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:16.280
<v Speaker 1>question is where did all this charge come from? Ymtanu

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the Big Bang? And you know electric charge comes in

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 1>positive and negative, right, So you can create a positive

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>charge if you also create a minus or photon can

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 1>turn into an electron and a positron, because the total

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:30.759
<v Speaker 1>electric charge is then conserved, all right, So that's a

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 1>that's another rule you have to concern And that also

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 1>works for the other charges I imagine, right, like the

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 1>color charge and the the smelly charge and all the

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:45.720
<v Speaker 1>other charges. Yeah, for the other charges, there are similar

0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 1>conservation rules. And you know these charges also are important,

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 1>for example, because the photon can only interact with charge particles.

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>So for example, the photon can turn into a electron impositron,

0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>but it can't decay into neutrinos and interact with neutrinos

0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 1>at all because it only talks to the electron and

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:07.399
<v Speaker 1>the positron. Can it kind of do like a three

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:10.239
<v Speaker 1>point turn like kind of decay into an electron which

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 1>then decase into a neutrino. Well, remember electrons are stable,

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 1>so if a photon decase and electrons, it can't then

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:18.880
<v Speaker 1>turn into neutrinos. But if a photon decayed into like

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:22.720
<v Speaker 1>a muon and an anti muon, that muant an antimu

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:24.719
<v Speaker 1>and could then turn into a pair of electrons and

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 1>positrons and produce neutrinos at the same time. So yeah,

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 1>photons can eventually produce neutrinos, but not directly. I think

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 1>what I'm getting here is that if you are a

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 1>person who likes rules and memorizing rules, then particle physics

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:41.360
<v Speaker 1>is for you. And we've got fewer rules than like

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 1>organic chemistry. You know, we're trying to keep it simple.

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 1>That's true that organic chemistry is all rules, and that

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:50.759
<v Speaker 1>it's just a list of rules that nobody understands and

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 1>it's an exception for every single case. That's that's why

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I didn't do organic chemistry. Didn't see what I mean

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:59.880
<v Speaker 1>because the list is shorter. That's the only difference. Actually,

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 1>totally Pegg, dude, I'm interested in particle physics because it

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 1>has the smallest list of things to memorize. Did I

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 1>ever tell you why I became an engineer? No, because

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to work with cockroaches. Because my dad said

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:14.719
<v Speaker 1>to me in high school, He's like, engineering is the best. Man.

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to memorize anything. If anyone asks you

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 1>a question, you just look it up in a book.

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, that's for me when your classes

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:27.799
<v Speaker 1>or when your homeworkers due or no to turn out,

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:32.400
<v Speaker 1>you don't need those things either. Um, but maybe we

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:34.360
<v Speaker 1>should just round it up with my favorite rule of

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 1>particle decay. Okay, okay, you have a favorite favorite is

0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 1>that a particle cannot decay into one other particle has

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 1>to decay into at least two. Yeah. You can't just

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:47.239
<v Speaker 1>have like a Higgs Boson decay into a bottom cork,

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:50.720
<v Speaker 1>or you can't even just have like a Muon decay

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:54.120
<v Speaker 1>into an electron. Why not? We're not exactly sure why not,

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:56.319
<v Speaker 1>but we know that if it could happen, it would

0:37:56.360 --> 0:38:00.120
<v Speaker 1>break another rule, which is conservation of momentum. Imagine you

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 1>have a heavy particle it's just sitting there, has no momentum,

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 1>and it turns into a lower mass particle. Now, now

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>that energy that from the difference in mass has to

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.239
<v Speaker 1>go somewhere, and usually that goes into the motion of

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:15.719
<v Speaker 1>the particle. Okay, So if a muon, for example, turned

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:19.120
<v Speaker 1>into an electron, there's extra energy there from the mass difference,

0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 1>so the electron is moving. But then that violates conservation

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 1>the momentum because the muon originally had no momentum and

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:27.719
<v Speaker 1>now the electron has momentum. So you have to create

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 1>another particle to balance out the momentum that the electron

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:33.800
<v Speaker 1>is getting to go the other direction. But wait, what

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:37.319
<v Speaker 1>if the muan, the first one, was moving a little bit,

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>can it decay to a smaller particle that's moving faster,

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:44.160
<v Speaker 1>because then you can still conserve momentum. They can't because

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>there's some of potentially some observers moving to the same

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 1>speed as the muan, and they also need to see

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 1>something that makes sense. And so that's true for all

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 1>particles that have mass, that there's always the potential to

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 1>catch up to it and see it motionless. And so

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 1>you have to have a rule that works also for

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 1>those observers. You can always look at it in a

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 1>way that had that it has zero momentum because it's

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 1>not moving. And in that frame where has no momentum,

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 1>it can't just spontaneously turn into an electron that's moving,

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 1>because then you've created momentum. And conservation momentum is another

0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 1>one of those rules about the universe. We don't know

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 1>why it exists. Um, we don't know why it's there.

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:25.399
<v Speaker 1>We show a whole podcast episode about these rules because

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:28.719
<v Speaker 1>they're really fascinating, and they highlight a famous woman in

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 1>physics who has long been overlooked, Emily Nurther, who invented

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:34.959
<v Speaker 1>sort of the symmetry that that describes all these things.

0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 1>H interesting. Well, I feel like you're saying that every

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 1>particle is that a stand still for somebody, every particle

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:46.839
<v Speaker 1>that has mass. Yes, photons are never to stand still

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 1>because they have no mass and if they were to

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 1>stand still, they'd be nothing. Okay, So you always need

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 1>to decay to two particles because everything is particles, right,

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 1>even sort of like energy? Whoa man? That was deep?

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:03.319
<v Speaker 1>Did I tell you I didn't have a banana today?

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:06.839
<v Speaker 1>So I am running on fubes man, everything is energy

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 1>and energy particles. Let's go with that. You're like, let

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 1>me take a puff here? Yeah, man, what did you said?

0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Go for it? I'm smoking my banana appeals. But it's

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it's fascinating that every particle when it decays

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:25.640
<v Speaker 1>has to turn into two others. It can't just turn

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 1>into one. That means that the number of particles increases,

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 1>so there's no conservational rule and like the overall number

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 1>of particles in the universe, that's not a problem, all right,

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Maybe just to wrap it all up then, um, you know,

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we started off with the question why

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 1>do particles die? And I feel like I feel like

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 1>we arrived at a good answer. You know, I feel

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 1>like it what is the meaning of last of particles

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 1>or two? It's it's like, that's the way the universe is,

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, nothing, Um, most particles don't last forever. You know.

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 1>That's just the way. That's a constant truth truth of

0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:05.759
<v Speaker 1>the universe, unless you're you get to the bottom rung,

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:09.400
<v Speaker 1>in which case you can last forever. You can last, right,

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 1>you can hang on forever at that bottom rung. But yeah,

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 1>the universe just likes to spread out. That's what it

0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 1>means for time to move forwards in some sense is

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 1>that pockets of energy density spread out and diffused themselves

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:23.840
<v Speaker 1>across the universe. The whole universe is spreading out and

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:26.799
<v Speaker 1>getting colder and more dilute, and so the same thing

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:29.040
<v Speaker 1>happens on the particle level. So in that way, we

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:31.359
<v Speaker 1>have that in common with particles. And I think it's

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 1>amazing to think about that, the idea that every particle

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 1>in my body, like every single one potentially or most

0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 1>of them, they were all there at the Big Bang, right,

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:45.800
<v Speaker 1>and maybe part with the Big Bang? Is that true? No,

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.319
<v Speaker 1>we think they were. That matter was created just after

0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 1>the Big Bang. Oh, I see, okay, so it was

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 1>there in the Big Bang. All of these particles that

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 1>are made out of the journey fourteen billion years just

0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>for the privilege of being part me. And I hope

0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 1>they're not disappointed. Yeah, I hope this is not their

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 1>peak moment here. You know, they've been in the heart

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:11.480
<v Speaker 1>of stars, they've flown through the universe, but this is

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:13.919
<v Speaker 1>where it is, This is where it's good. Maybe maybe

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:16.719
<v Speaker 1>the answer to why particles eyes that they realized they

0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:18.400
<v Speaker 1>travel all this way just to be part of For

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:27.279
<v Speaker 1>here sously the aspultaneously decay, because why even go on? Man. Yeah,

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 1>but it's cool, even if this is not their peak.

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 1>It's cool to think that every particle in my body

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:38.279
<v Speaker 1>may be here until the end of time, right like it.

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:40.359
<v Speaker 1>It was there the Big Bang, and now it's part

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:44.400
<v Speaker 1>of me and it they'll still be around buzillions of

0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 1>years into the future most likely. Yeah, because, like we've

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:49.279
<v Speaker 1>talked about on this podcast several times, the thing that

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:51.759
<v Speaker 1>is you is not the things that make you up.

0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:54.640
<v Speaker 1>It's the arrangement of those bits. Because you could take

0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:56.719
<v Speaker 1>your bits and rearrange them and to make a star

0:42:57.040 --> 0:42:59.799
<v Speaker 1>or lava or kittens. It's all the same stuff when

0:42:59.840 --> 0:43:02.840
<v Speaker 1>the same proportions. It's just how it's put together, so

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:04.759
<v Speaker 1>you can put it together to make a whorehey, or

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 1>a Daniel or you know, BMW or whatever you like.

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 1>It's all the same stuff, and it's been around for

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:13.080
<v Speaker 1>a long time, and it's gonna be here for sixty

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:15.719
<v Speaker 1>two chillion years. I think what you're saying, Daniel is

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:18.400
<v Speaker 1>that my particles are old, but I can be as

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:21.240
<v Speaker 1>young as I want to be. That's right, That's exactly

0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Your particles are fourteen billion years old,

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:26.360
<v Speaker 1>but you're as fresh as a breath of air. But

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 1>then that that air is also made out of old particles. Yeah, precisely,

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 1>but we don't know, and we can tell where it's

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 1>been based on how it smells. All right, Well, we

0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:38.800
<v Speaker 1>hope you enjoyed that discussion about death, the death of particles,

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the death and birth and rebirth sometimes of particles, and

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 1>the eternal life of other particles, and all the rules

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 1>in between. And we are struggling to understand these rules.

0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:49.719
<v Speaker 1>And the more we smash particles together and see the

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 1>rules for new particles, the more we can understand why

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 1>we have these rules and not those rules. And are

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:56.320
<v Speaker 1>these rules really universal? And do they only exist in

0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:58.600
<v Speaker 1>our part of the universe or for for the particles

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 1>that we have seen so far. And one day we

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:03.200
<v Speaker 1>hope to have a very simple, concise set of rules

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:06.760
<v Speaker 1>that we totally describe everything in one line, and hopefully

0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 1>we'll be around to explain that line. So stay tuned,

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