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Speaker 3: That's right, this is Good Morning Football. Welcome in everybody.

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Speaker 3: We're live in LA and New York and most importantly

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Speaker 3: this week, Indianapolis Today on GMF. It's Monday, February twenty

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Speaker 3: fourth five. This is Manti Teo. There's Peter Schreger in

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Speaker 3: New York. I'm Jamie Ertl and welcome to our table

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Speaker 3: this week. Cody Kessler. What up, Cody say? Thanks Cody?

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Oh? I appreciate it. Thanks for having me. I'm excited.

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Speaker 5: I already kind of gave my spiel at the beginning early.

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Speaker 5: I'll give a little bit more. But no, it's been

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Speaker 5: a blast. I'll just talking to them off camera. It's

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Speaker 5: just when you do new things like this, you start broadcasting.

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Speaker 5: I've always loved the show. I'm watching it a ton.

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Speaker 5: You never know it's going to go. But the set,

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Speaker 5: the crew, everyone will involved has been amazing. It's been

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Speaker 5: a lot of fun.

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Speaker 6: Well for those.

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Speaker 3: Checking in from their cubicle nine am, Easterns saym West Coast.

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Speaker 3: Cody Kesler, USC quarterback is drafted by the Browns, made

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Speaker 3: a couple of stops and now you've been doing broadcasting

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Speaker 3: though for what in the last couple of years?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, last three years.

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Speaker 5: I was kind of going back and forth between if

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Speaker 5: I wanted to coach. You know, I got done playing

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Speaker 5: in the NFL, I retired, I walked away, and you know,

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Speaker 5: football as mental outa you kind of always pulled at

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Speaker 5: your heart a little bit.

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Speaker 4: It's tough to fully walk away.

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Speaker 5: I was going to get into coaching, and then sat

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Speaker 5: down with Mark Sanchez, who very good friend of mine,

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Speaker 5: was talking about, Hey, you know, college coaching is an

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Speaker 5: eleven and a half month job. There's really no free time.

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Speaker 5: Try this broadcasting thing out. So my agent reached out

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Speaker 5: to USC and they were very gracious and you know,

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Speaker 5: I know Mantai doesn't know about this because you went

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Speaker 5: to the wrong school, but the Trojan family is very

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Speaker 5: welcoming out. Yeah, they invited me out to do a

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Speaker 5: couple of pregame show, we do a podcast.

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Speaker 4: And all that, and I kind of fell in love

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Speaker 4: with it.

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Speaker 5: And now I'm here doing this and you guys been amazing,

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Speaker 5: So I appreciate the opportunity.

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Speaker 3: Really cool.

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Speaker 7: I would say, you know, the thing about so great

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Speaker 7: about our GMMFB fam is. This is the closest that

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Speaker 7: you'll see an irishman and a Trojan true and the

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Speaker 7: same family.

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Speaker 4: Guys.

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Speaker 8: This is just unheard of.

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Speaker 7: Only on GMMTB can I meet a a guy, just

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Speaker 7: a USC quarterback. Guys, USC quarterback, not of the linebacker.

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Speaker 8: We don't get along. But here on GMFP this is

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Speaker 8: my brother.

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Speaker 4: Hey, and and Anti Manti showed me around.

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Speaker 5: Actually I had to scratch. I thought I was dreaming.

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Speaker 5: He said, hey, let me show you on the set.

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Speaker 3: Bro Peter, your thoughts on this table today.

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Speaker 2: Cody, Uh, Now that we have you at the table,

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Speaker 2: will you properly admit to Mantiitao that the the pushing

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Speaker 4: I don't, I don't. I don't know if we're gonna

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Speaker 4: I don't know what's pumping up here. That was perfectly legal.

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Speaker 4: That was a great call. I love that play.

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Speaker 5: That fourth and Night was amazing too. To Dwayne Jarrett,

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Speaker 5: so love that. I'm sticking by that and the Bush

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Speaker 5: push lives forever in.

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Speaker 7: The USC legacy. I was I was a USC fan

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Speaker 4: I was a Notre Dame fan.

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Speaker 3: All Right, guys, you have all week together, Okay, don't

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Speaker 3: burn through all the topics right now, all right, cause

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Speaker 3: let's check in in Indianapolis. Todd Helasaro is there all

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Speaker 3: week because the next is here. It's the NFL Scout

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Speaker 3: and Combine happening on NFL Network. I love the video,

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Speaker 3: from combines of the past, perhaps like a matt Stafford

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Speaker 3: was he going to go? We've watched his career unfold.

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Speaker 3: Does it continue in LA next year?

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Speaker 6: Tom Jamie? What I would tell you is that conversations

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Speaker 6: Matthew Stafford has a roster bonus that is due on

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Speaker 6: We shall see everybody, not the Rams. They don't come

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Speaker 6: to the combine, these other teams in one place, including

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I know. Anytime I do speak on the Rams,

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Speaker 2: to give up. It's all very awkward because McVeigh and

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Speaker 2: Stafford may end up together, and it's just like, well,

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Speaker 2: that was water under the bridge, that was business. We

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Speaker 2: truth of the matter is Matthew Stafford was one pass

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Speaker 2: he's not worth fifty million dollars. And that's really where

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Speaker 2: So you look at the teams and you look at

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Speaker 2: pay him fifty five million dollars. If that's the case,

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Speaker 2: does that make sense? The Raiders are an option? Who knows?

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Speaker 2: You can go down the list. The issue with this

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Speaker 2: They could pay ten million, and McVeigh by think I

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Speaker 2: could win gabs at Garoppola. It's a really tough, awkward

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Speaker 2: at the moment. But the longer this thing proceeds, the

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Speaker 2: UGLIERC could get. I don't know if I could envision

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Speaker 2: a world where the Rams go on without Stafford. I

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Speaker 2: think everyone would love Stafford to come back, but I

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Speaker 2: don't think the Rams are going to break their back

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Speaker 2: to pay Matthew Stafford top dollar. And if he's okay,

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Speaker 2: with that to go pursue a Super Bowl fine, and

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Speaker 2: if he's not, no shame in that, go get the

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Speaker 3: Peter, this doesn't feel as sexy or dramatic as two

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Speaker 3: years ago with Rogers leaving Green Bay, but the fact

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Speaker 3: York Jets, I just wrote this question on a card

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Speaker 3: to Manti and just was like, how does this feel

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Speaker 3: to you? Which is is Stafford do you feel like

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Speaker 3: in a better place physically or maybe in his career

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Speaker 3: then Rogers was two years ago leaving Green Bay. To

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Speaker 3: your point, like, what does he warrant in the trade market?

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Speaker 3: and what they should be demanding.

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Speaker 2: Well, Jamie, I think it's a great question, and that's

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Speaker 2: what the Rams are going to have to figure out.

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Speaker 2: And that's what Jimmy sex in the Agent is kind

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Speaker 2: of seating out here. Look, the Giants and the Raiders

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Speaker 2: would love Matthew Stafford under center. I believe it, But

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Speaker 2: those guys have top ten picks. I don't think they're

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Speaker 7: Well no, he literally was the center slid away from

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Speaker 8: So he is unblocked. So for me, does Matt Stafford

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Speaker 8: Why would you even.

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Speaker 8: Now? Why would those discussions? I get where they're trying to.

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Speaker 7: The thing is this, guys, Matt Stafford has only missed

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Speaker 8: The Coop. So there's so much restarting.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's my question, flipping the table to the ex

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I love that, Peter, That's a great point

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Speaker 4: It's the same thing with Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 5: But there's also that fine line of knowing your worth too, right,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you look at you look at the dynamic and

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Speaker 7: And So if I'm somebody like Matt Stafford, guys, I

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Speaker 3: The NFL Combine presented by Microsoft co Pilot. It's where

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Speaker 3: a dream that starts small can get big, and a

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Speaker 3: It's the twenty twenty five NFL Combine. February twenty seven,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna take a book now made. Cody tosses that Cody,

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Speaker 3: Green shoes, schmoke. That's Tony and Mantai at their combine

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Speaker 3: experience back in the day. Peter, it's story time with

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Speaker 2: Oh, I love it. I want them green cleats. Cody,

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Speaker 2: I would love those brock Powers is probably a size

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Speaker 2: thee hundred. That guy was dominant this year. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: go through the last year's rookies and we're gonna see

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Speaker 2: a little fun that to look back to show you

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Speaker 2: just how important the rookies were in twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: Good Morning Football Trigger's top ten prospects entering the Combine.

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Speaker 2: This was the Dude the only two time Macki.

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Speaker 6: Award winners jump out the top Down.

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Speaker 2: Writer Jaden Daniels was the Heisman Trophy winner Bavers was

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Speaker 2: his guy. He's LSU's career leader in receptions and receiving

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Speaker 2: am such a fan of Jaden Daniels. He goes to

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Speaker 2: This guy was a Heisman Trophy winner and he projects

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Speaker 4: Seccard, Well, thank you with a puff day, Dad.

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Speaker 2: It is USC quarterback Caleb Glove. It's then just two

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Speaker 2: So every year I do my top ten prospects heading

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Speaker 2: Monday of Combine Week. And it's really interesting because I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna be rolling it out tomorrow and Wednesday on our

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Speaker 2: show Good Morning Football for this year. So we figured

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Speaker 2: before we go into twenty twenty five, let's tie a

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Speaker 2: bow on twenty twenty four and go through the performances

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Speaker 2: that these players had. Number ten, the thirtieth pick in

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Speaker 2: the draft, was that cornerback Nate Wiggins out of Clemson. Now,

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Speaker 2: we saw Terry and Arnold go before him. We saw,

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Speaker 2: of course, Quinnon Mitchell go before him. But Wiggins ended

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Speaker 2: up starting for a Ravens team that was the number

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Speaker 2: three seed in the AFC this season and had a

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Speaker 2: really good rookie season. So Wiggins went from being my

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Speaker 2: number ten prospect last year to be in the thirtieth

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Speaker 2: overall pick to starting for one of the best defenses.

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Speaker 6: In the league number nine.

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Speaker 2: I might have been a little underwhelmed if I put

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Speaker 2: him at nine, but trust me, tight end going this

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Speaker 2: high on a list like this is rare. I had

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Speaker 2: Brock Bowers at number nine. Bowers would end up going

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Speaker 2: number thirteen overall to the Raiders. Now, the nugget that

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Speaker 2: I shared on the Friday after the draft was that

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Speaker 2: the Rams were ferociously trying to trade up to get

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Speaker 2: Brock Bauers in the draft. They did not succeed. They

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Speaker 2: ended up settling at nineteen and taking Jared Verse instead.

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Speaker 2: Bothe those guys dynamic rookies. Bowers, of course breaks all

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Speaker 2: the records. Jared Verse at nineteen overall wins NFL defensive

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Speaker 2: rookie of the year. Number eight not a household name yet,

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Speaker 2: but I do believe he will be Tallyesci Fuaga out

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Speaker 2: of Oregon State went to the Saints, was fantastic when

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Speaker 2: he played this year, started all seventeen games, did it

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Speaker 2: on a team that underwhelmed. Fuanga, of course, was an

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Speaker 2: absolute massive beast and had an awesome combine itself. But

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Speaker 2: there were better offensive linemen at rookies. I think Olu

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Speaker 2: at of Penn State had a better year, and of

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Speaker 2: course Joe Alt had the better year. That's gonna be

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Speaker 2: a bunch of names and they're gonna be looking at

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Speaker 2: for many, many years. Comparing them. Number seven with Malik Neighbors,

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Speaker 2: who was drafted sixth overall by the Giants out of LSU.

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Speaker 2: This guy didn't waste any time showing that he can

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Speaker 2: and will be one of the game elite wide receiver

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Speaker 2: saves you want about the Giants letting Saquon Walk, Joe

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Speaker 2: Shane Nail did here one hundred and nine catches twelve

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Speaker 2: hundred yards. One hundred and nine catches are the second

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Speaker 2: most by a rookie all time. The only guy who's

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Speaker 2: ever had more with Brock Powers, who did it this

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Speaker 2: year as well so Neighbors. I had him at seven

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Speaker 2: going into the combine. He ends up getting drafted six.

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Speaker 2: I was a huge Roma Doonza fan coming out of Washington.

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Speaker 2: I had him number six, even above Neighbors. A Douonza

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Speaker 2: would get drafted a couple spots behind Neighbors. He went

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Speaker 2: ninth overall, and he was solid. I think this was

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Speaker 2: not what Bears fans were hoping for. But when DJ

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Speaker 2: Moore is on the team, and of course they have

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Speaker 2: all the issues they had with ten straight losses and

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Speaker 2: the changing of head coach and offensive coordinator three times,

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Speaker 2: you could say you don't really blame a Dunze for

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Speaker 2: not going nuts this season. Seven hundred and thirty four yards.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what happens next year. Five. Last year I

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Speaker 2: had Drake May. Drake May had five, so he was

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Speaker 2: my third quarterback going into the combine. He was actually

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Speaker 2: the third quarterback selected and went third overall. May was

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Speaker 2: a pro bowler as a rookie, really impressive year out

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Speaker 2: of him. Completed sixty seven percent of his passes fifteen touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: also ran the ball really well, and at some points

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Speaker 2: it felt like it was him and a bunch of

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Speaker 2: ten guys, and he's carrying all of them as a

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Speaker 2: rookie at twenty one years old. So a lot of

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Speaker 2: hope for May sophomore season. Number four, and perhaps I

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Speaker 2: was unfair of putting him at four going into the combine.

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Speaker 2: I had Jaden Daniels. Of course, Daniels went on to

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Speaker 2: have the greatest rookie season we have maybe ever seen

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Speaker 2: out of a player in the NFL, taking his team

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Speaker 2: to the NFC Championship Game, and of basically squashing every

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Speaker 2: rookie quarterback record you can imagine. Jaden Daniels was fantastic,

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Speaker 2: completed nearly seventy percent of his passes and tied Ben

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Speaker 2: Roethlisberger for the most quarterback wins by a rookie with fourteen,

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Speaker 2: and that included two playoff wins. And he tied the

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Speaker 2: NFL rookie record in a game with five passing touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: which he did against the Eagles in a win. Eagles,

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Speaker 2: of course, go on to win the Super Bowl. My

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Speaker 2: top three players going into the combine, Number three was

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Speaker 2: a Notre Dame boy that I know, Manti Teo support

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Speaker 2: since Joe allt He was unbelievable this year for the

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles Chargers, and he went fifth overall. He started

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Speaker 2: all sixteen games. It's basically a human wall. He allowed

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Speaker 2: just basically the fourth lowest quarterback pressure rate amongst all

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Speaker 2: rookie offensive linemen in NFL history, and he did that

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Speaker 2: as a tackle, playing the right side for Justin Herbert

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Speaker 2: as Sean Slater was on the left side. Joe Walt

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Speaker 2: was unbelievable, was everything he wanted out of a guy,

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Speaker 2: and was drafted fifth overall. I have no shame having

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Speaker 2: him at number three.

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Speaker 4: Number two.

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Speaker 2: I had Marvin Harrison Junior, who went fourth overall and

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Speaker 2: was the first wide receiver taken. Again, good numbers in

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Speaker 2: any other rookie class, which would be an outstanding season.

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Speaker 2: But when you've got guys like Neighbors and Bowers out

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Speaker 2: there doing what they did, he maybe didn't have the

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Speaker 2: numbers those guys, So we'll see what he does his

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Speaker 2: sophomore year. And then number one one overall going into

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Speaker 2: the combine, I had Caleb Williams and Caleb Williams, I

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Speaker 2: think it's an NFL season that I didn't put in

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Speaker 2: my top ten rookies, and I got a lot of

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Speaker 2: blowback for it because the numbers are incredible thirty five

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Speaker 2: hundred yards and twenty touchdowns as a rookie for a

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Speaker 2: team that basically crumbled and broke up at the seams,

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Speaker 2: and he kind of still put up those numbers despite

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Speaker 2: questionable offensive coordinator moves and then of course a coach

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Speaker 2: who was fired midway through the season. What's interesting is

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Speaker 2: this was going into the Combine, Caleb did not compete,

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Speaker 2: did not throw. But I thought Caleb Williams actually did

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Speaker 2: himself a lot of good at the Combine, being very present,

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Speaker 2: he was around, he was supporting all the different players

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Speaker 2: out of USC. He went to cornerback drills on Friday night.

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Speaker 2: He then on Saturday was with the quarterbacks, and he

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Speaker 2: was the last guy to leave the field helping everybody

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Speaker 2: put things together, and then thanking different Lucas Oil Stadium

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Speaker 2: employees on the way out. So, in a weird way,

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00:24:06,668 --> 00:24:09,028
Speaker 2: didn't compete, but still helped his stock. And then he

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Speaker 2: went first overall and it was never a doubt the

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Speaker 2: Bears were taking him from day one. One more time,

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Speaker 2: can we see the full screen of who I had

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Speaker 2: ten to one, just so we could kind of pick

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Speaker 2: it apart and see and then of course we know

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00:24:20,428 --> 00:24:22,748
Speaker 2: how the draft went, and then we know how the

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00:24:23,068 --> 00:24:26,028
Speaker 2: actual season went. But here was ten to one going

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Speaker 2: into the combine, no major misses, a couple guys who

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Speaker 2: were left off, and Cody Kessler.

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Speaker 6: I turned to you.

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Speaker 2: I had the order wrong in a couple of ways.

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Speaker 2: But this was fresh off the college season, fresh off

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, and all these guys are going to

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Speaker 2: be starters for years to come in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Hey, talk your stuff, Shreg's I love it. This is

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Speaker 4: the Peter brought the Receipts episode right now.

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Speaker 8: I love it.

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Speaker 5: Hey, I'll tell James Gladsown over with the Jaguars if

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Speaker 5: you need some help in this draft pass, we'll give

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Speaker 5: you a call. But yeah, I'm gonna stick with the

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Speaker 5: top of your list right there. I think Kayleb Williams

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Speaker 5: was a phenomenal pick there at number one. Again, maybe

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Speaker 5: I'm a little biased, being a USC guy in a

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Speaker 5: former Trojan, but.

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Speaker 4: I think he's going to just continue to get better.

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Speaker 5: I think that list, all the guys on that list

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Speaker 5: are really going to continue to get better. They're going

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Speaker 5: to be household names in the NFL for years to come.

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Speaker 5: But now you pair up Kayleb Williams with Ben Johnson

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Speaker 5: as the head coach, and we saw what he did

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Speaker 5: with the Detroit Lions and just the tools that he

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Speaker 5: has now in Chicago. Right, and go back and look

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Speaker 5: at Detroit with Jamiir Gibbs right, the way he got

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Speaker 5: him the football, Jamison Williams in different ways, he got

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Speaker 5: jam of the ball right, he found different ways to

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Speaker 5: get Montgomery involved. All these different players had a role

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Speaker 5: in this offense, and and Alman ros Saint Brown.

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Speaker 4: It was just so difficult as a defense to defend them.

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Speaker 4: And now you put them in Chicago.

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Speaker 5: You know with Roman Dunsay, you put him in there,

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Speaker 5: with Khmet, you put him in there with with Kayleb Williams.

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Speaker 5: Obviously you had DeAndre Swift to that mix. There's so

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Speaker 5: many different names on that list, Keenan Allen, and now.

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Speaker 4: He has all those guys at his disposal.

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Speaker 5: I think Kayler Williams continue to trend in the right

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Speaker 5: direction and I can't wait to see what they do

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Speaker 5: together in Chicagland. Also, he knows what it takes to

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Speaker 5: win in the NFC North. I think that's the most

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Speaker 5: important factor there. Cody, I'll say it is bro on

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Speaker 5: this show.

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Speaker 7: Shrigs is like the almanac or whatever, like this big

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Speaker 7: book of history and knowledge. He's like the oracle on matrix.

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Speaker 7: But I got something in both with my brother Shrigs.

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Speaker 4: Okay, early on this show, when.

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Speaker 7: We talked about the Tennessee Titans and taking a quarterback

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Speaker 7: number one overall Shregs, I said that they should take

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Speaker 7: a what a right tackle, right tackle.

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Speaker 8: Number three on his list.

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Speaker 2: Guys, there's Joe a position Shreks.

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Speaker 8: Does Joe All play Shreks right tackle?

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Speaker 2: Light tackle?

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Speaker 8: And how awesome was that o line?

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Speaker 4: Shreks Awesome?

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Speaker 2: Amazing.

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Speaker 6: So I just wanted to say, brother, like you are

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Speaker 6: the oracle.

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Speaker 9: Okay, but when a coup you just literally like cut

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Speaker 9: my feet from beneath me like this, literally just kept

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Speaker 9: bashing me about right tackle, man TI, like you said,

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Speaker 9: right guard.

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Speaker 5: You know how you know how hard we're all going

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Speaker 5: to be laughing if draft comes around and they taken

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Speaker 5: off into tackle.

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Speaker 7: My So, So Shregs, I love you, and I'm so

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Speaker 7: glad that you pointed out Joe All is number three

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Speaker 7: on your list because there might be a right tackle

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Speaker 7: Shreks that might go one overall to the Tennessee and

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Speaker 7: that happens. I'm I'm gonna say I love.

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Speaker 3: Mantai is one of the nicest people on the planet,

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Speaker 3: but every once in a while we get a little

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Speaker 3: slice of how competitive he truly is, and we're living

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Speaker 3: it right now. Peter, I love the Roma Dunsay appearance

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Speaker 3: on that list. The Roma Dunza I think out of

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Speaker 3: last year, and please, for the love of God, don't

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Speaker 3: show this footage again because I'm like ten months pregnant

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Speaker 3: in the footage, which is all combine team and all

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Speaker 3: combine performance. I think went to Roma Dunesey last year

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Speaker 3: when he stayed late to keep running the three cone

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Speaker 3: drill out of just desperation to hit the time perfectly.

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Speaker 3: Shreg So I love the Roma Dunza appearance and what

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Speaker 3: he did at the combine in the subsequent week. I

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Speaker 3: do have a question about bo Nix though, and why

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Speaker 3: he didn't appear in your top ten list this time

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Speaker 3: last year because he was, you know, there was all

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Speaker 3: these things about him. The sixty six game started in

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Speaker 3: college and the two schools and he's super old and

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Speaker 3: then he became bo Nicks for Sean Payton. So what

651
00:27:59,908 --> 00:28:01,428
Speaker 3: was your take on him this time last year?

652
00:28:01,828 --> 00:28:04,148
Speaker 2: Yeah, great call, and he also was a senior ball

653
00:28:04,668 --> 00:28:06,268
Speaker 2: who did really well at the senior Ball. But it

654
00:28:06,348 --> 00:28:09,028
Speaker 2: was also like, well, you know, we've got these three

655
00:28:09,148 --> 00:28:12,588
Speaker 2: shiny objects in Drake May, Jaden Daniels and Caleb Williams,

656
00:28:12,628 --> 00:28:14,868
Speaker 2: and then there's those other guys. There's Michael Pennix, There's

657
00:28:14,948 --> 00:28:17,908
Speaker 2: bon Nicks, and there's JJ McCarthy. They're not going to

658
00:28:17,948 --> 00:28:20,188
Speaker 2: go up there. And then as the draft process went on,

659
00:28:20,428 --> 00:28:22,988
Speaker 2: all those guys rose a little bit higher and higher

660
00:28:23,028 --> 00:28:24,868
Speaker 2: and higher. I do have a great regret I was

661
00:28:24,908 --> 00:28:28,348
Speaker 2: one of those many people who overlooked Bonnicks going into

662
00:28:28,388 --> 00:28:30,988
Speaker 2: the Combine as a legitimate top ten guy. I don't

663
00:28:31,028 --> 00:28:33,068
Speaker 2: think anyone would doubt that. And Jamie, I would like

664
00:28:33,108 --> 00:28:35,588
Speaker 2: to say this, there was no bigger winner at the

665
00:28:35,628 --> 00:28:38,708
Speaker 2: Combine than Jamie Erdall, who yes, was nine months pregnant,

666
00:28:39,188 --> 00:28:43,148
Speaker 2: working the game in a dress and sneakers at the Combine,

667
00:28:43,468 --> 00:28:46,108
Speaker 2: interviewing everybody. And I was just so happy that you

668
00:28:46,188 --> 00:28:48,548
Speaker 2: made it back to Los Angeles and didn't have to

669
00:28:48,668 --> 00:28:50,668
Speaker 2: end up in Indianapolis for a week with Sam and

670
00:28:50,788 --> 00:28:52,828
Speaker 2: the other girls coming in to go visit their new

671
00:28:52,868 --> 00:28:53,388
Speaker 2: baby sister.

672
00:28:53,468 --> 00:28:55,468
Speaker 3: If I had had that third baby girl in Indy,

673
00:28:55,548 --> 00:28:57,308
Speaker 3: her name would have been Indy. We had already had

674
00:28:57,348 --> 00:28:59,548
Speaker 3: it planned. And all I know is that when I

675
00:28:59,628 --> 00:29:02,268
Speaker 3: showed up at my six am flight out of Indy

676
00:29:02,348 --> 00:29:05,428
Speaker 3: the next morning and I'm seated next to Robert Sala

677
00:29:05,508 --> 00:29:07,268
Speaker 3: and Brian Dable, the three of us are looking at

678
00:29:07,308 --> 00:29:10,108
Speaker 3: each other like we don't want to talk about anything football.

679
00:29:10,228 --> 00:29:11,948
Speaker 3: Nobody look at us. Also, the two of them are like,

680
00:29:12,028 --> 00:29:13,148
Speaker 3: what are you doing here?

681
00:29:13,348 --> 00:29:13,868
Speaker 6: Get home?

682
00:29:14,068 --> 00:29:16,628
Speaker 3: Like they true men of families. They were like, what

683
00:29:16,908 --> 00:29:18,868
Speaker 3: this is a cause for concern, Get this girl back

684
00:29:18,908 --> 00:29:19,628
Speaker 3: to New York City?

685
00:29:19,948 --> 00:29:20,508
Speaker 4: And I did.

686
00:29:20,828 --> 00:29:22,868
Speaker 3: The combine is awesome, Peter. We know you're headed there

687
00:29:22,908 --> 00:29:24,748
Speaker 3: this week and we can't wait to look forward to it,

688
00:29:24,868 --> 00:29:28,388
Speaker 3: especially because sometimes players emerge from the combine and the

689
00:29:28,428 --> 00:29:31,868
Speaker 3: footage lives forever, like the two people living looking at

690
00:29:31,908 --> 00:29:34,348
Speaker 3: our sitting at our table this week, Cody.

691
00:29:34,548 --> 00:29:37,508
Speaker 4: Look at that air, I mean, and that's our boy.

692
00:29:37,748 --> 00:29:40,108
Speaker 5: Oh boy, that was that was an under That was

693
00:29:40,148 --> 00:29:43,308
Speaker 5: an underperformance there on the Oh no, a little short there.

694
00:29:43,348 --> 00:29:46,428
Speaker 5: I'd put on some lb since my high school basketball days,

695
00:29:46,468 --> 00:29:47,868
Speaker 5: so forty yard dash.

696
00:29:47,908 --> 00:29:49,748
Speaker 4: I appreciate you just showing the picture instead.

697
00:29:49,468 --> 00:29:52,548
Speaker 3: Of showing not the footage. Man, I don't worry.

698
00:29:54,108 --> 00:29:56,948
Speaker 8: Rolled the video. I mean, you know you talk about Jamie.

699
00:29:57,708 --> 00:29:59,308
Speaker 4: We're going to look back.

700
00:30:00,508 --> 00:30:01,668
Speaker 2: Where are the green cleats?

701
00:30:10,268 --> 00:30:16,868
Speaker 3: Good morning Football, NFL Scout and combine this week in Indianapolis.

702
00:30:17,188 --> 00:30:19,428
Speaker 3: It is the perfect site for it because you pretty

703
00:30:19,468 --> 00:30:21,188
Speaker 3: much don't have to go outside the entire week that

704
00:30:21,228 --> 00:30:23,348
Speaker 3: you're there. You can just stay inside and watch the

705
00:30:23,388 --> 00:30:25,708
Speaker 3: players walk in the hallways going from their testing to

706
00:30:25,788 --> 00:30:29,228
Speaker 3: the meetings to the on field workouts. Tom pelisera there

707
00:30:29,308 --> 00:30:32,708
Speaker 3: for us for NFL Network. Of course, the quarterback's always

708
00:30:32,748 --> 00:30:36,028
Speaker 3: a juicy topic, Tom, especially in the last couple of years.

709
00:30:36,068 --> 00:30:38,788
Speaker 3: You really have to keep straight who's working out, who's

710
00:30:39,028 --> 00:30:41,388
Speaker 3: just doing meetings, who's not doing testing. Do you have

711
00:30:41,508 --> 00:30:43,028
Speaker 3: any answers for us with some of the big.

712
00:30:43,028 --> 00:30:46,388
Speaker 6: Names, Well, Jamie, let's start out with Shador Sanders of course,

713
00:30:46,468 --> 00:30:48,788
Speaker 6: Dion Sanders' son, who is regarded as one of the

714
00:30:48,868 --> 00:30:52,468
Speaker 6: top quarterback prospects in this draft. As our ian Rappidport

715
00:30:52,828 --> 00:30:56,868
Speaker 6: reported on Sunday, Sanders not expected to work out or

716
00:30:56,988 --> 00:30:59,428
Speaker 6: do any of the on field testing, but he will

717
00:30:59,468 --> 00:31:02,868
Speaker 6: be here in Indianapolis to continue meetings with clubs, a

718
00:31:03,028 --> 00:31:05,908
Speaker 6: process that began at the East West Shrine Bowl for

719
00:31:06,108 --> 00:31:08,908
Speaker 6: shduor Sanders. There's a lot of layers that people want

720
00:31:08,988 --> 00:31:11,428
Speaker 6: to peel back, both in terms of the player that

721
00:31:11,548 --> 00:31:13,828
Speaker 6: he is and the type of person that is going

722
00:31:13,948 --> 00:31:16,788
Speaker 6: to be presumably the face of someone's franchise.

723
00:31:16,908 --> 00:31:17,028
Speaker 8: Here.

724
00:31:17,428 --> 00:31:20,868
Speaker 6: He and cam Ward from Miami, again widely regarded as

725
00:31:20,948 --> 00:31:24,148
Speaker 6: the top two prospects in this draft. Unclear at this

726
00:31:24,228 --> 00:31:26,148
Speaker 6: point whether or not cam Ward is going to throw.

727
00:31:26,308 --> 00:31:28,748
Speaker 6: I would tell you that teams do not anticipate we

728
00:31:28,828 --> 00:31:30,668
Speaker 6: see Ward here that he would be on the same

729
00:31:30,708 --> 00:31:33,348
Speaker 6: program as Sanders to wait and throw at his pro day.

730
00:31:33,628 --> 00:31:36,308
Speaker 6: But most, if not all, of the other top quarterback

731
00:31:36,348 --> 00:31:40,668
Speaker 6: prospects are expected to throw in the quarterback session on Saturday.

732
00:31:40,748 --> 00:31:43,468
Speaker 6: That list includes Jackson Dart from Ole Miss, who really

733
00:31:43,468 --> 00:31:46,228
Speaker 6: has an opportunity to help himself. I'm told Jalen Milroe

734
00:31:46,268 --> 00:31:49,148
Speaker 6: from Alabama is going to throw as well, So is

735
00:31:49,228 --> 00:31:52,628
Speaker 6: Notre Dame's Riley Leonard, a bunch of household names if

736
00:31:52,628 --> 00:31:54,588
Speaker 6: you're a college football fan, they're going to be out

737
00:31:54,628 --> 00:31:57,268
Speaker 6: here showing what they can do on Saturday, and they're

738
00:31:57,268 --> 00:31:58,828
Speaker 6: going to be throwing to a wide receiver group that

739
00:31:58,908 --> 00:32:02,028
Speaker 6: I think Jamie is one of the other undersold storylines

740
00:32:02,068 --> 00:32:05,228
Speaker 6: in this draft. This is not regarded as a wide

741
00:32:05,308 --> 00:32:07,948
Speaker 6: receiver draft like ones we've seen in recent years. There

742
00:32:07,988 --> 00:32:11,508
Speaker 6: are not those top end types of players however we

743
00:32:11,628 --> 00:32:14,108
Speaker 6: have seen in the past, whether it's from the testing,

744
00:32:14,228 --> 00:32:17,108
Speaker 6: the drills, whatever it might be. You can really help

745
00:32:17,148 --> 00:32:19,948
Speaker 6: yourself here. Could somebody like Matthew Golden from Texas all

746
00:32:19,988 --> 00:32:23,188
Speaker 6: of a sudden put himself into first round consideration. That's

747
00:32:23,308 --> 00:32:25,068
Speaker 6: one of the names I'll be keeping a close eye

748
00:32:25,108 --> 00:32:27,108
Speaker 6: on as this process plays out through of course the

749
00:32:27,148 --> 00:32:28,108
Speaker 6: week here in Indianapolis.

750
00:32:28,228 --> 00:32:29,868
Speaker 3: Well, it does feel like Tom, anyone coming out of

751
00:32:29,908 --> 00:32:32,508
Speaker 3: Steve Sarkejan offense would be a good take on your

752
00:32:32,588 --> 00:32:34,508
Speaker 3: NFL roster. So that wouldn't be a bad option.

753
00:32:34,588 --> 00:32:34,748
Speaker 6: Tom.

754
00:32:34,748 --> 00:32:36,188
Speaker 3: We got to get some people in that building with you.

755
00:32:36,268 --> 00:32:38,188
Speaker 3: You just said, however, and I heard it echo like

756
00:32:38,308 --> 00:32:41,268
Speaker 3: three times. All right, get the scouting gun line up.

757
00:32:41,348 --> 00:32:44,068
Speaker 6: And we saw over there one of the rival networks

758
00:32:44,068 --> 00:32:46,068
Speaker 6: didn't put together their set yet, so they're doing some

759
00:32:46,228 --> 00:32:47,988
Speaker 6: work right on the other side of this curtain over here.

760
00:32:48,188 --> 00:32:50,188
Speaker 6: If you need him over here, I can get him.

761
00:32:50,308 --> 00:32:51,388
Speaker 6: I can get him to do some work here.

762
00:32:51,508 --> 00:32:53,988
Speaker 3: That just means you're there early and often, Tom, and

763
00:32:54,068 --> 00:32:55,868
Speaker 3: we appreciate it so much. We'll talk to you in

764
00:32:55,948 --> 00:32:57,708
Speaker 3: a little bit. There are some names that we will

765
00:32:57,748 --> 00:33:00,068
Speaker 3: learn this weekend. But if you watch the fourth annual

766
00:33:00,108 --> 00:33:03,108
Speaker 3: All State HBCU Legacy Bowl, it took place this past

767
00:33:03,148 --> 00:33:06,028
Speaker 3: weekend at Tulane Universe City in New Orleans. The game

768
00:33:06,108 --> 00:33:09,548
Speaker 3: featuring the top NFL Draft eligible players from historically black

769
00:33:09,628 --> 00:33:12,628
Speaker 3: colleges and universities. For a recap, here's the guys that

770
00:33:12,708 --> 00:33:16,388
Speaker 3: were on site for us, Steve Weisch and the crew right.

771
00:33:16,308 --> 00:33:19,148
Speaker 2: Steve White here, Bucky Brooks, and Charles Davis. A great

772
00:33:19,348 --> 00:33:22,308
Speaker 2: day in New Orleans at the All Street HBCU Legacy Bowl.

773
00:33:22,388 --> 00:33:24,868
Speaker 2: Team Robinson went at seventeen to fourteen.

774
00:33:24,988 --> 00:33:25,388
Speaker 8: Buckie.

775
00:33:25,668 --> 00:33:29,548
Speaker 10: An exciting game and a spectacular finish for the exclamation point.

776
00:33:29,428 --> 00:33:30,228
Speaker 4: Yeah, the best of me saying.

777
00:33:30,228 --> 00:33:32,788
Speaker 11: We talked about the talent, but it was really the execution.

778
00:33:33,028 --> 00:33:35,588
Speaker 4: Obviously defensive. We saw everything that we want to see today.

779
00:33:35,748 --> 00:33:36,348
Speaker 8: We certainly did.

780
00:33:36,428 --> 00:33:39,228
Speaker 10: We saw guys with NFL aspirations make plays when we

781
00:33:39,308 --> 00:33:40,708
Speaker 10: saw guys who were not going to play in the

782
00:33:40,828 --> 00:33:43,828
Speaker 10: NFL take great memories with them by their excellent play

783
00:33:43,868 --> 00:33:44,188
Speaker 10: as well.

784
00:33:44,348 --> 00:33:46,388
Speaker 2: So Charles, you see the defensive play right here?

785
00:33:46,828 --> 00:33:48,988
Speaker 10: What about the player who won the defensive endby Are

786
00:33:48,988 --> 00:33:51,988
Speaker 10: you talking about trakejwan Thom? Yes, yeah, because every time

787
00:33:52,068 --> 00:33:55,588
Speaker 10: we looked up, number fifty seven was pursuing the quarterback

788
00:33:55,788 --> 00:33:57,668
Speaker 10: and more times than not got to it.

789
00:33:57,988 --> 00:33:59,428
Speaker 2: And he did it throughout the game.

790
00:33:59,668 --> 00:34:01,828
Speaker 4: It wasn't just a flurry on one series.

791
00:34:02,188 --> 00:34:05,388
Speaker 10: It was quarter after quarter afterquar He ends up putting

792
00:34:05,388 --> 00:34:07,228
Speaker 10: the quarterback on the deck four times.

793
00:34:07,668 --> 00:34:09,588
Speaker 2: And yes, well, deserving of being.

794
00:34:09,548 --> 00:34:10,668
Speaker 10: The MVP on defense.

795
00:34:10,868 --> 00:34:13,268
Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly deserving of being the MVP on defense.

796
00:34:13,308 --> 00:34:14,508
Speaker 8: But let's talk about the office again.

797
00:34:14,548 --> 00:34:17,868
Speaker 11: Okay, Daniel Ridgson certainly deserved to be the MVP nine

798
00:34:17,948 --> 00:34:20,668
Speaker 11: of twelve, one hundred and ten yards, moved the team

799
00:34:20,828 --> 00:34:23,108
Speaker 11: up and down the field, had a touchdown pass. But

800
00:34:23,268 --> 00:34:25,548
Speaker 11: really it was a way he managed the game as

801
00:34:25,588 --> 00:34:28,708
Speaker 11: the ultimate field general. He walks out of here with

802
00:34:28,868 --> 00:34:30,868
Speaker 11: the MVP award and as a winner.

803
00:34:30,948 --> 00:34:33,708
Speaker 10: Yeah, I thought I thought it was bidding that backup

804
00:34:33,828 --> 00:34:36,668
Speaker 10: quarterbacks took the front. Yeah, you know, Richardson wasn't the

805
00:34:36,748 --> 00:34:39,508
Speaker 10: starter and it was Draylenelli's for the opposite team.

806
00:34:39,748 --> 00:34:41,188
Speaker 4: Both of them were in the game at the end.

807
00:34:41,348 --> 00:34:42,828
Speaker 6: They got the game in a flow.

808
00:34:42,948 --> 00:34:43,188
Speaker 8: Again.

809
00:34:43,268 --> 00:34:45,428
Speaker 3: The most competitive game that we have seen here for

810
00:34:45,588 --> 00:34:49,148
Speaker 3: four years, the showcase for the top players from Black

811
00:34:49,228 --> 00:34:50,068
Speaker 3: college football.

812
00:34:50,388 --> 00:34:51,828
Speaker 2: It was a good one this week.

813
00:34:52,268 --> 00:34:54,668
Speaker 6: Charles and Bucky, appreciate rolling with you on this one.

814
00:34:54,708 --> 00:34:57,588
Speaker 2: Appreciate rolling with you as well. That's our quarterback.

815
00:34:58,148 --> 00:35:01,348
Speaker 3: Yeah he a go, Steve. Why should appreciate that?

816
00:35:01,708 --> 00:35:01,828
Speaker 4: Man?

817
00:35:01,908 --> 00:35:04,228
Speaker 3: Tis always like, that's our quarterback, that's our system. Look

818
00:35:04,228 --> 00:35:06,668
Speaker 3: at these two guys working out at the NFL Combine.

819
00:35:06,828 --> 00:35:10,268
Speaker 3: It's Manti, it's Cody. They were in Indianapolis. It was

820
00:35:10,268 --> 00:35:12,428
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, but we have the footage

821
00:35:12,428 --> 00:35:18,188
Speaker 3: and we're looking back at their combine experience. The NFL Combine,

822
00:35:18,188 --> 00:35:21,508
Speaker 3: presented my Microsoft co Pilot, is Thursday on NFL Network

823
00:35:21,548 --> 00:35:25,228
Speaker 3: and it's streaming on NFL Plus. There's Manti Tayo, great form,

824
00:35:25,548 --> 00:35:28,308
Speaker 3: Buddy and Cody Casler's at the table as well. We're

825
00:35:28,348 --> 00:35:30,428
Speaker 3: going to take go down memory lane finally with their

826
00:35:30,468 --> 00:35:33,908
Speaker 3: combine experiences. Mantai, look at you, you.

827
00:35:34,028 --> 00:35:37,468
Speaker 8: Young pup, baby face, young pup. Can we go back

828
00:35:37,468 --> 00:35:38,588
Speaker 8: to that first picture?

829
00:35:39,028 --> 00:35:40,828
Speaker 3: Okay, when we go back to this.

830
00:35:41,228 --> 00:35:42,868
Speaker 7: When we go back to the first picture, it's very

831
00:35:42,908 --> 00:35:44,948
Speaker 7: deceiving because it looks like it's a blur and it

832
00:35:45,188 --> 00:35:47,828
Speaker 7: looks like I'm running really really fast. But I'll tell you.

833
00:35:47,868 --> 00:35:49,908
Speaker 7: I'll tell you a story about what happened at the combine.

834
00:35:49,948 --> 00:35:52,908
Speaker 7: So Jarvis, Jarvis Jones, who is drafted by the Steelers

835
00:35:52,908 --> 00:35:56,188
Speaker 7: out of Georgia, he didn't participate in the forty yard dash,

836
00:35:56,268 --> 00:35:58,108
Speaker 7: and so I don't know how they have it now,

837
00:35:58,188 --> 00:35:59,628
Speaker 7: but they don't have the times up when you run

838
00:35:59,708 --> 00:36:02,508
Speaker 7: the forty. But Jarvis was on his phone following, and

839
00:36:02,588 --> 00:36:04,828
Speaker 7: so everybody who ran their forty they started to make

840
00:36:04,828 --> 00:36:06,708
Speaker 7: a huddle around Jarvis and he would tell him, Hey,

841
00:36:06,748 --> 00:36:07,188
Speaker 7: you ran.

842
00:36:07,108 --> 00:36:07,708
Speaker 8: This, you ran that.

843
00:36:07,908 --> 00:36:10,748
Speaker 3: Oh so the broadcast knew it, but you guys running

844
00:36:11,148 --> 00:36:12,108
Speaker 3: we don't run.

845
00:36:12,188 --> 00:36:14,668
Speaker 8: We don't know our times. So I run mine, right.

846
00:36:15,268 --> 00:36:17,148
Speaker 7: I come back around to the start and there's a

847
00:36:17,148 --> 00:36:19,708
Speaker 7: little huddle around Jarvis, and Jarvis is just telling people

848
00:36:19,908 --> 00:36:20,508
Speaker 7: at their times.

849
00:36:21,028 --> 00:36:23,028
Speaker 8: And I knew Jarvis because we're trained together. So I

850
00:36:23,108 --> 00:36:24,908
Speaker 8: was like, hey, j J was my time?

851
00:36:24,988 --> 00:36:26,948
Speaker 7: And I remember he grabs his phone, he looks down

852
00:36:27,028 --> 00:36:29,308
Speaker 7: and he looks up up at me and he goes.

853
00:36:31,148 --> 00:36:32,508
Speaker 8: And I'm like, what was my time?

854
00:36:32,548 --> 00:36:32,628
Speaker 4: Bro?

855
00:36:32,828 --> 00:36:35,228
Speaker 8: And he goes like four eight. I was like, you

856
00:36:35,268 --> 00:36:38,508
Speaker 8: shouldn't have told him it was. It was a nightmare.

857
00:36:38,628 --> 00:36:38,748
Speaker 4: Guy.

858
00:36:38,788 --> 00:36:41,028
Speaker 7: I saw again that picture that you saw made me

859
00:36:41,068 --> 00:36:43,388
Speaker 7: look zoom fast like Sonic. It wasn't sonic, guys, it

860
00:36:43,468 --> 00:36:44,828
Speaker 7: was more like sonic to drive through.

861
00:36:45,188 --> 00:36:47,348
Speaker 8: That's what I was doing. It was around a four eight.

862
00:36:47,388 --> 00:36:47,548
Speaker 4: It was.

863
00:36:47,708 --> 00:36:47,988
Speaker 8: It was not.

864
00:36:48,148 --> 00:36:49,868
Speaker 2: It was not two guys drinking milkshakes.

865
00:36:49,948 --> 00:36:50,108
Speaker 1: Yeah.

866
00:36:50,388 --> 00:36:51,788
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked like a milkshake.

867
00:36:51,908 --> 00:36:54,148
Speaker 4: You're upright, though, The form looked right and everything. I'm

868
00:36:54,188 --> 00:36:56,308
Speaker 4: going to go opposite of that too, because you said

869
00:36:56,348 --> 00:36:57,628
Speaker 4: four it was bad for you. I got a funny

870
00:36:57,668 --> 00:36:58,988
Speaker 4: forty story on top of it. And the same thing

871
00:36:59,228 --> 00:37:00,068
Speaker 4: my and I was.

872
00:37:00,188 --> 00:37:02,748
Speaker 5: I think twenty fifteen was out the combiner, twenty sixteen,

873
00:37:02,988 --> 00:37:04,868
Speaker 5: same thing. You didn't know the forty until if right.

874
00:37:04,948 --> 00:37:07,388
Speaker 5: So we get downe with the our college season. I

875
00:37:07,388 --> 00:37:09,148
Speaker 5: think December twenty seventh. We played in the holiday. But

876
00:37:09,148 --> 00:37:09,708
Speaker 5: we get done.

877
00:37:09,948 --> 00:37:11,668
Speaker 4: You go straight into combine prep. You have that two

878
00:37:11,708 --> 00:37:12,228
Speaker 4: month period.

879
00:37:12,628 --> 00:37:14,868
Speaker 5: I am running forty after forty after forty, trying to

880
00:37:14,868 --> 00:37:16,948
Speaker 5: get my time down. I cannot break four nine, right,

881
00:37:16,948 --> 00:37:19,188
Speaker 5: I'm at four nine zero four nine two four four

882
00:37:19,268 --> 00:37:20,708
Speaker 5: four nine one can't break it.

883
00:37:20,788 --> 00:37:22,028
Speaker 4: And I tried so many times.

884
00:37:22,068 --> 00:37:23,988
Speaker 5: I spent I worked out with practice sports out in

885
00:37:24,068 --> 00:37:26,948
Speaker 5: Orange County. We spent hours afterwards working on my get off.

886
00:37:27,028 --> 00:37:29,148
Speaker 5: All of that combine rolls around. I'm on about three

887
00:37:29,148 --> 00:37:29,948
Speaker 5: and a half hours of sleep.

888
00:37:30,188 --> 00:37:31,788
Speaker 4: I am tired. I know we have the video.

889
00:37:31,868 --> 00:37:34,748
Speaker 5: It's a terrible site to watch, but I run my four.

890
00:37:35,988 --> 00:37:38,948
Speaker 5: I am digging everything I have. I just told myself,

891
00:37:38,988 --> 00:37:41,148
Speaker 5: I'm going to hit four eight somehow some weight to

892
00:37:41,228 --> 00:37:42,108
Speaker 5: combine or at least.

893
00:37:41,948 --> 00:37:42,628
Speaker 4: A low four nine.

894
00:37:43,068 --> 00:37:44,508
Speaker 5: Don't break it the entire time I get to the

895
00:37:44,548 --> 00:37:46,828
Speaker 5: combine we finish up. First thing, my strength coach tells

896
00:37:46,868 --> 00:37:48,068
Speaker 5: me when we get out there, he goes hit four

897
00:37:48,108 --> 00:37:50,028
Speaker 5: eight nine, So I say four eight.

898
00:37:50,068 --> 00:37:51,468
Speaker 4: I don't tell him the four eight nine part.

899
00:37:51,788 --> 00:37:54,508
Speaker 5: Yes, opposite reaction to Mantai as a quarterback who I

900
00:37:54,628 --> 00:37:56,868
Speaker 5: was very excited about hitting the four eight because then

901
00:37:56,868 --> 00:37:57,988
Speaker 5: I just saw, hey, I run a four eight.

902
00:37:58,028 --> 00:37:59,228
Speaker 4: Doesn't matter if it was a four to zo or

903
00:37:59,268 --> 00:38:01,068
Speaker 4: four eight nine, huh. I still ran a four eight.

904
00:38:01,108 --> 00:38:01,988
Speaker 4: So that was a pretty good pills.

905
00:38:02,068 --> 00:38:04,108
Speaker 3: This is such a crazy juxtaposition with to what we

906
00:38:04,148 --> 00:38:06,508
Speaker 3: saw last year was Xavier Worthy and how the entire

907
00:38:06,588 --> 00:38:09,228
Speaker 3: place lost their mind and they were watching the time

908
00:38:09,388 --> 00:38:11,028
Speaker 3: flash up on the board Shriggs. You were in the

909
00:38:11,068 --> 00:38:13,708
Speaker 3: building for that. These stories make me sad now to

910
00:38:13,788 --> 00:38:15,908
Speaker 3: hear that these guys didn't even know their time, whereas

911
00:38:16,028 --> 00:38:19,348
Speaker 3: now people are celebrating this. Xavier really sprint.

912
00:38:20,028 --> 00:38:20,228
Speaker 4: Yeah.

913
00:38:20,508 --> 00:38:22,508
Speaker 2: I also think a lot of the drills is what

914
00:38:22,588 --> 00:38:24,748
Speaker 2: we focus on, but it's a whole week of being

915
00:38:24,828 --> 00:38:27,188
Speaker 2: together with the different guys in your draft class. Cody,

916
00:38:27,228 --> 00:38:29,668
Speaker 2: I'll start with you. Who were the other quarterbacks and

917
00:38:29,708 --> 00:38:31,468
Speaker 2: who was kind of the alpha dog that year, that

918
00:38:31,628 --> 00:38:33,948
Speaker 2: was the pied piper leading everyone around when it came

919
00:38:33,988 --> 00:38:34,908
Speaker 2: to that quarterback group.

920
00:38:35,148 --> 00:38:37,268
Speaker 4: You know what shrikes. I don't remember who that top

921
00:38:37,388 --> 00:38:37,908
Speaker 4: guy was. Now.

922
00:38:37,948 --> 00:38:39,988
Speaker 5: Golf was obviously the number one overall pick that year.

923
00:38:40,028 --> 00:38:42,388
Speaker 5: And then I was roommates actually with Carson Wentz. When

924
00:38:42,388 --> 00:38:44,428
Speaker 5: I say roommates, that's like a high and by at

925
00:38:44,468 --> 00:38:46,548
Speaker 5: one am in the morning because you've been doing interviews

926
00:38:46,588 --> 00:38:48,468
Speaker 5: for the last eighteen hours.

927
00:38:48,388 --> 00:38:49,708
Speaker 4: So we didn't spend a lot of time together.

928
00:38:49,748 --> 00:38:52,628
Speaker 5: But Wentz was there, Golf, Dak Prescott was obviously there,

929
00:38:52,668 --> 00:38:53,588
Speaker 5: So we had a good group of guys.

930
00:38:53,628 --> 00:38:54,628
Speaker 4: We had a great throwing session.

931
00:38:54,628 --> 00:38:57,028
Speaker 5: Actually, I think a lot of guys really helped themselves

932
00:38:57,068 --> 00:38:59,468
Speaker 5: and not to be trying to brag too much, but

933
00:38:59,548 --> 00:39:01,508
Speaker 5: myself included out a very good performance at the combine

934
00:39:01,508 --> 00:39:03,468
Speaker 5: and it really helped me after an up and down

935
00:39:03,548 --> 00:39:06,708
Speaker 5: year at USC year. But funny story too, kind of

936
00:39:06,788 --> 00:39:09,068
Speaker 5: going off of that, is you do a ton of interviews, right,

937
00:39:09,068 --> 00:39:10,748
Speaker 5: you go into the train station is what they call

938
00:39:10,828 --> 00:39:11,588
Speaker 5: it down there in the botto.

939
00:39:11,588 --> 00:39:14,068
Speaker 4: I don't if they still call it that. Where, Yes,

940
00:39:14,228 --> 00:39:15,948
Speaker 4: you go down there, you do all the interviews.

941
00:39:16,108 --> 00:39:17,748
Speaker 5: And I remember I was on the last day of

942
00:39:17,748 --> 00:39:19,988
Speaker 5: the interviews, right, and it was the day before we

943
00:39:20,028 --> 00:39:22,428
Speaker 5: worked out before we went home, probably my last interview

944
00:39:22,468 --> 00:39:24,148
Speaker 5: of the day, and it was with Pet Hamilton, who

945
00:39:24,228 --> 00:39:25,828
Speaker 5: was the offensive coordinator in Cleveland at the time.

946
00:39:26,108 --> 00:39:26,188
Speaker 8: Right.

947
00:39:26,308 --> 00:39:28,228
Speaker 5: So I go down there and I kept pushing back

948
00:39:28,268 --> 00:39:30,388
Speaker 5: his interview because you just had so many lined up.

949
00:39:30,668 --> 00:39:32,708
Speaker 5: I felt terrible. Long, long story short, I get to

950
00:39:32,748 --> 00:39:34,628
Speaker 5: the PEP interview, we go do it. I can tell

951
00:39:34,628 --> 00:39:36,188
Speaker 5: he's already fed up with me. Right, I love Pet

952
00:39:36,188 --> 00:39:38,628
Speaker 5: to this day. We're really close now. And they teach

953
00:39:38,708 --> 00:39:40,868
Speaker 5: you and man title will tell you it's a first impression.

954
00:39:40,948 --> 00:39:42,468
Speaker 5: This may be your twentieth interview of the day, but

955
00:39:42,508 --> 00:39:44,188
Speaker 5: it's your first time in front of this coach, Right,

956
00:39:44,268 --> 00:39:47,188
Speaker 5: so be authentic, be real, be positive, be upright. It's

957
00:39:47,188 --> 00:39:49,708
Speaker 5: also midnight. We're all tired, and I remember Pep asking

958
00:39:49,748 --> 00:39:52,228
Speaker 5: me questions and you know, hey, what's your favorite cover

959
00:39:52,308 --> 00:39:54,148
Speaker 5: two beater? And I'm you know, going and talking about it,

960
00:39:54,228 --> 00:39:56,628
Speaker 5: getting into it, and he's on a song, just scroll

961
00:39:56,708 --> 00:39:58,348
Speaker 5: and not really paying attention, you know, And then he

962
00:39:58,388 --> 00:40:00,388
Speaker 5: asked me another question, and then it goes silent, and

963
00:40:00,428 --> 00:40:02,708
Speaker 5: I'm like, you got any more, Coach, and he was like, oh, yeah,

964
00:40:03,068 --> 00:40:05,268
Speaker 5: we're good, man, We're good. I w away and I

965
00:40:05,308 --> 00:40:06,868
Speaker 5: remember telling myself. I think I text one of my

966
00:40:06,908 --> 00:40:09,268
Speaker 5: parents or someone. I said, I promise you I will

967
00:40:09,308 --> 00:40:11,868
Speaker 5: not be a Cleveland Brown on April. And then sure

968
00:40:11,988 --> 00:40:13,868
Speaker 5: enough I get drafted by the Cleveland Browns. I go

969
00:40:13,908 --> 00:40:15,748
Speaker 5: out there for an official but and then to this state.

970
00:40:15,828 --> 00:40:16,628
Speaker 5: Me and Pepper really close.

971
00:40:16,668 --> 00:40:17,068
Speaker 4: I love him.

972
00:40:17,108 --> 00:40:19,668
Speaker 5: I spent Thanksgiving Christmas with his family. Amazing coach, but

973
00:40:19,748 --> 00:40:21,188
Speaker 5: it was so funny. We still That was the first

974
00:40:21,228 --> 00:40:22,908
Speaker 5: story we talked about when I got there. Was I

975
00:40:23,028 --> 00:40:25,308
Speaker 5: remember leaving that interview like this guy hates me. I

976
00:40:25,348 --> 00:40:27,508
Speaker 5: will never be a Cleveland Brown. And then sure enough

977
00:40:27,548 --> 00:40:28,668
Speaker 5: I get a call from Brio, Ohio.

978
00:40:28,748 --> 00:40:29,708
Speaker 4: On April twenty eight.

979
00:40:29,948 --> 00:40:32,188
Speaker 3: Maybe just Peter, maybe he just heard everything you needed

980
00:40:32,268 --> 00:40:33,908
Speaker 3: to know right off the bat. It was the first in.

981
00:40:33,948 --> 00:40:36,668
Speaker 2: Session, Nanta, your situation was obviously different. You had all

982
00:40:36,708 --> 00:40:39,428
Speaker 2: these questions fresh off the stuff that you went through

983
00:40:39,428 --> 00:40:40,908
Speaker 2: at the end of your college career. Did you have

984
00:40:40,948 --> 00:40:43,628
Speaker 2: great anxiety about answering all these questions in an interview

985
00:40:43,708 --> 00:40:46,028
Speaker 2: setting and that was as formal as what was going

986
00:40:46,068 --> 00:40:48,188
Speaker 2: on at the comment. I have to think going into

987
00:40:48,228 --> 00:40:50,388
Speaker 2: there you were just, you know, ridden with nerves, but

988
00:40:50,468 --> 00:40:52,468
Speaker 2: also like, oh do I have to address all this again?

989
00:40:52,708 --> 00:40:53,668
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was.

990
00:40:53,828 --> 00:40:57,308
Speaker 7: It was definitely an experience, Peter. I will say, you know,

991
00:40:57,388 --> 00:41:01,188
Speaker 7: I think everything is case by case. My experience would

992
00:41:01,188 --> 00:41:04,268
Speaker 7: be different than Cody's, which will be different than Xavier Worthies. Right,

993
00:41:04,588 --> 00:41:06,468
Speaker 7: every team that met with me at the train station.

994
00:41:06,548 --> 00:41:08,588
Speaker 7: When I would go in there and meet with these teams,

995
00:41:08,708 --> 00:41:10,868
Speaker 7: they asked me about the cat fishing thing. Every single one,

996
00:41:11,108 --> 00:41:13,868
Speaker 7: well except for one the Saints. The Saints didn't ask

997
00:41:13,948 --> 00:41:15,828
Speaker 7: me about that question. They just talked ball with me.

998
00:41:15,948 --> 00:41:20,068
Speaker 7: But it was an experience that I'll never forget, as

999
00:41:20,148 --> 00:41:22,108
Speaker 7: an experience that I wish I could forget.

1000
00:41:22,348 --> 00:41:24,708
Speaker 8: But it was definitely a growing experience. Because there was

1001
00:41:24,788 --> 00:41:25,788
Speaker 8: a lot of growth there.

1002
00:41:25,988 --> 00:41:28,108
Speaker 7: There's a lot of teams that had their their questions

1003
00:41:28,148 --> 00:41:30,228
Speaker 7: and once they asked their questions, I answered them and

1004
00:41:30,348 --> 00:41:32,428
Speaker 7: that was it. There was others that really kept digging,

1005
00:41:32,508 --> 00:41:34,308
Speaker 7: and so they wanted to see I think more so

1006
00:41:34,428 --> 00:41:36,668
Speaker 7: and Cody, let me know what you think, it's more

1007
00:41:36,748 --> 00:41:38,708
Speaker 7: so to see how you react. How do you react

1008
00:41:38,788 --> 00:41:41,828
Speaker 7: under pressure? Do you crumble? Do you do you shy

1009
00:41:41,948 --> 00:41:42,788
Speaker 7: away from pressure?

1010
00:41:43,388 --> 00:41:43,588
Speaker 1: Are you?

1011
00:41:43,788 --> 00:41:44,588
Speaker 8: Are you authentic?

1012
00:41:44,748 --> 00:41:47,508
Speaker 7: And I try to be my best self every time

1013
00:41:47,588 --> 00:41:51,308
Speaker 7: that I was on behind the camera, and so you

1014
00:41:51,388 --> 00:41:53,988
Speaker 7: could imagine for what was that twenty two year old

1015
00:41:54,108 --> 00:41:55,948
Speaker 7: kid that type of pressure.

1016
00:41:56,508 --> 00:41:58,708
Speaker 4: Look at the front road, SHREKX are you there?

1017
00:41:58,788 --> 00:41:59,508
Speaker 3: Sure is right here?

1018
00:41:59,948 --> 00:42:00,788
Speaker 4: Bottom right front here?

1019
00:42:01,108 --> 00:42:01,748
Speaker 2: Look at that face.

1020
00:42:03,708 --> 00:42:06,748
Speaker 3: Look at them study Batista right there, two down too,

1021
00:42:06,828 --> 00:42:09,108
Speaker 3: over right, and there's shregs behind shreg.

1022
00:42:09,028 --> 00:42:10,908
Speaker 4: For those Jamie's out here pointing all out for them.

1023
00:42:10,908 --> 00:42:13,788
Speaker 7: Okay, I'm gonna ask you, Shrikes, what what when you

1024
00:42:14,028 --> 00:42:15,388
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know if you remember that, but

1025
00:42:15,748 --> 00:42:18,068
Speaker 7: what were your thoughts during that time when you you know.

1026
00:42:18,148 --> 00:42:19,508
Speaker 8: You obviously what was happening?

1027
00:42:19,828 --> 00:42:21,988
Speaker 2: Empathy felt terrible that you had to do this in

1028
00:42:22,348 --> 00:42:24,748
Speaker 2: this setting, But Also, I thought you handled yourself well.

1029
00:42:24,788 --> 00:42:26,788
Speaker 2: But I remember being at that press conference. I didn't

1030
00:42:26,788 --> 00:42:29,068
Speaker 2: realized I'd be front and center looking like I was

1031
00:42:29,108 --> 00:42:31,268
Speaker 2: a miserable sap. I was probably excited that week, but

1032
00:42:31,348 --> 00:42:33,148
Speaker 2: that was like, that was the real story that week.

1033
00:42:33,188 --> 00:42:35,308
Speaker 2: Matta Tables can actually speak, And I thought you handled

1034
00:42:35,308 --> 00:42:37,668
Speaker 2: yourself amazingly. But I had a great empathy for you

1035
00:42:37,748 --> 00:42:39,308
Speaker 2: because I felt like you were a twenty one year

1036
00:42:39,308 --> 00:42:41,108
Speaker 2: old kid, and here we go, this is going to

1037
00:42:41,148 --> 00:42:42,188
Speaker 2: be the start of what's going to be a very

1038
00:42:42,268 --> 00:42:43,348
Speaker 2: uncomfortable ten minutes for you.

1039
00:42:43,988 --> 00:42:46,028
Speaker 8: Thank you, Shreks. I love you, brother, thank you so much.

1040
00:42:46,108 --> 00:42:46,828
Speaker 8: But yeah, it was.

1041
00:42:47,468 --> 00:42:49,828
Speaker 7: It's a great opportunity for guys that you know, to

1042
00:42:50,108 --> 00:42:52,028
Speaker 7: really showcase what they can do, to go out there

1043
00:42:52,068 --> 00:42:54,548
Speaker 7: and really compete. So I'm excited for the players that

1044
00:42:54,548 --> 00:42:55,468
Speaker 7: are going to be out there this year.

1045
00:42:55,548 --> 00:42:57,468
Speaker 3: And then he turned and he ran out of that room.

1046
00:42:57,708 --> 00:43:00,508
Speaker 3: Unfortunately it was at what speed for coat?

1047
00:43:00,748 --> 00:43:04,868
Speaker 2: Sorrys listen, I'd say this guy, if I got to

1048
00:43:04,948 --> 00:43:06,228
Speaker 2: run forty yards, it's a touchdown.

1049
00:43:06,268 --> 00:43:09,268
Speaker 3: Okay, So nice, nice man.

1050
00:43:09,388 --> 00:43:09,548
Speaker 4: SI.

1051
00:43:10,308 --> 00:43:13,108
Speaker 3: Cody Kessler still on the show all week long. Manti

1052
00:43:13,228 --> 00:43:14,788
Speaker 3: Seer as well, GMT. Melivia back