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Speaker 1: He's The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. And it is a Monday before the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: But the Senior Bowl just wrapped up, and lots of

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Speaker 1: stuff coming out of there, including a new two round

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Speaker 1: mock draft by Matt Miller on ESPN that I wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk about today. Matt um some interesting picks in

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Speaker 1: this one for the Steelers, because in the two round

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Speaker 1: mock draft you're getting three picks for the Steelers, which

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Speaker 1: is very nice, pretty exciting. Yeah, and hee's it last segment.

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Speaker 1: I think you and I looked at this and thought

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Speaker 1: I'll take it. I like how this panned out. And frankly,

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Speaker 1: going through the draft sometimes you'll look at him BOK

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Speaker 1: and be like, oh boy, you got him in the

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Speaker 1: third round. Deep down, you know he's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: top twenty pick. Like, I don't think there's any of

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Speaker 1: that that I just think this is a very plausible

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Speaker 1: way that this thing goes for Pittsburgh. Yeah. Absolutely, So, uh,

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Speaker 1: let's get right to it here. So he has a

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Speaker 1: projected trade he has the Colts moving up to number

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Speaker 1: one in the trade with with Chicago to get the

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Speaker 1: number one pick and get the quarterback, and then taking

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young, the quarterback from Alabama number one overall. The

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans then take Will Levis, the quarterback out of Kentucky,

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Speaker 1: at number two. UM, don't see a huge issue with that.

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Speaker 1: Will Willie Anderson goes at three, then to the Arizona Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: and then the Bears, picking fourth, take Jalen Carter. That's

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Speaker 1: where Indianapolis had been picking, and I think those top

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Speaker 1: four Anderson. Yeah, so if Arizona takes Anderson, then you

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Speaker 1: know the Bears would take Carter and vice versa exactly.

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Speaker 1: I think they're happy no matter what. Sitting at three

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Speaker 1: and four for those teams that have quarterbacks is really nice.

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Speaker 1: Assuming two quarterbackacks fall. Yeah. At five, the Seahawks then

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Speaker 1: take Tyree Wilson, the defensive end out of Texas Tech.

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Speaker 1: At six, the Lions take Devon Witherspoon, the cornerback out

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Speaker 1: of Illinois. He seems to really be gaining steam, doesn't he.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was gonna get Junior Bowl, and then

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Speaker 1: tap the brakes. I don't know that you need. You're

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Speaker 1: gaining steam without doing that, right right, right, I mean

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Speaker 1: you don't want to pull a hamstring before the combine

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Speaker 1: or whatever. You know, You're you're sitting in a good

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Speaker 1: spot right now. Yeah. Uh, it's seven. The Raiders take

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Speaker 1: Pete Skarnsky, the offensive lineman from Northwestern. The Falcons at eight,

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Speaker 1: take Miles Murphy, the defensive end out of Clemson. At nine, boy,

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Speaker 1: the car the Carolina Panthers would love this. C J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud falls down to nine. I mean, would the Raiders

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Speaker 1: and Falcons both passed on Stroud or Seattle even at five?

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Speaker 1: You know? I mean who knows, but I could. I

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Speaker 1: could envision and the Panthers ending up with one of

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Speaker 1: these three. Probably levis more likely than Stroud, but they

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Speaker 1: might have to move up two or three spots to

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Speaker 1: get it. Yeah. Yeah. Um. At ten, the Eagle steak

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Speaker 1: John Robinson, the running back out of Texas. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the rich get richer. We just talked about, how you

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Speaker 1: know how stacked the Eagles are. Yeah, throw the best

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Speaker 1: back in the in the draft or in many years,

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Speaker 1: and on that team that already runs the ball. Well

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Speaker 1: that's attractive. I mean, boy would be a good landing

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Speaker 1: spot and one of my my fantasy team. Yeah. Absolutely um.

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Speaker 1: At eleven, the Titans stake Roderick Jones. At twelve, the Texans,

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Speaker 1: with with Cleveland's pick, take Jordan Addison. Be a good guy.

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Speaker 1: Jets stake Paris Johnson, the offensive attack out of Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: At fourteen, the Patriots take Joey Porter Jr. The cornerback

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Speaker 1: the defensive back out of Alabama. Could big corner, could

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Speaker 1: The Washington Commanders get Anthony Richardson, the quarterback out of Florida.

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Speaker 1: Here's a prediction. I know he is raw as can be,

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Speaker 1: but I also have seen quarterbacks, and I've watched draft

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Speaker 1: classes intently for a long time. I think more and

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Speaker 1: more when we see these mocks, he's only going to

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Speaker 1: first pick, they get Christi Gonzalez, the cornerback out of Oregon. Fine,

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Speaker 1: a case for him to be number one without a doubt.

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Speaker 1: I do on the day, two guys, I like them

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Speaker 1: more and more like Steter's gonna three cracks at a

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Speaker 1: without a doubt. At eighteen, the Lions take Lucas van Ness,

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Speaker 1: Which doesn't mean I wouldn't take one of its seventeen. Oh,

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Speaker 1: absolutely not. The one that you like is there, you

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Speaker 1: take him? Um. At eighteen, the Lions take Lucas van Ness,

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Speaker 1: the Chargers take Nolan Smith, the outside linebacker out of Georgia.

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Speaker 1: take Osiris Torrence to guard out of Florida. I absolutely

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Speaker 1: think he will be a first round pick. Yeah. Seven.

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Speaker 1: North Dakota State. They have holes all over their old line.

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Speaker 1: Nothing's like a glaring hole, but nothing's real settled. And

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Speaker 1: Bengals take Michael Mayer, the tight end out of Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: See this, to me is more realistic than seeing three

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Speaker 1: men that just makes so much more sense. I mean,

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Speaker 1: The Saints take key On White. Yeah yeah, ke On

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Speaker 1: White goes it nine to to uh the Saints um

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Speaker 1: Jordan's replacement. Yeah. And people, please don't send me your

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Speaker 1: mock drafts from I think it's from Pro Football Network

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Speaker 1: Uh well, yeah, that's great, but okay, it's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Would you take this draft? Well, yeah, I'd take that draft.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting the first round talent in round seven. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I still would take him before though. Yeah. At

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Speaker 1: which it is. At pick thirty two. To start day

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Speaker 1: two of the draft, of Steelers take John Michael Schmidt's

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Speaker 1: of your five best blockers, you're a better football team,

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Speaker 1: you know. And he's if he's a study, he's a study. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And that guy's just stud. Yeah. At thirty three, the

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Speaker 1: Texans take Dalton Kincaid, the tight end out of Utah.

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Speaker 1: So Houston takes a quarterback and then pass catcher pass

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals take Steve a Vila the guard at a TCU.

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