Speaker 1: My name is Clay nukelemb And. This is a production
Speaker 1: of the bear Grease podcast called The bear Grease Render,
Speaker 1: where we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the
Speaker 1: scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f
Speaker 1: HF Gear, American Maid, purpose built hunting and fishing gear
Speaker 1: that's designed to be as rugged as the place as
Speaker 1: we explore. Welcome to the bear Grease Render, everybody. I've
Speaker 1: got my wife, doctor Missy Nucomb here we're going to
Speaker 1: We're gonna start off things a little different today, Dad
Speaker 1: with a kind of a sentimental song about the woods.
Speaker 1: Usually we'd come in pretty hot and sing so Johnny
Speaker 1: Cash or you know something. But this is a little
Speaker 1: a little more laid back.
Speaker 2: Have you ever wondered lonely through the woods? Everything there
Speaker 2: phil just as it should, part of life there, You're
Speaker 2: part of something good. Have you ever wondered lonely through
Speaker 2: those woods? If you've never wondered lonely through the woods.
Speaker 1: You never started into a starry sky lying on your
Speaker 1: back and asking why, what's the purpose?
Speaker 3: I wonder?
Speaker 1: Who am I? You never stared into a starry sky?
Speaker 3: Oo ah.
Speaker 1: Ah? Have you ever started into a sorry suy.
Speaker 2: Never been now walking in the snow, trying to.
Speaker 4: Get back where you were before.
Speaker 1: Always end up I'm knowing where to go. Have you
Speaker 1: ever been out walking.
Speaker 2: In the show?
Speaker 4: Who you haven't been walking? You wouldn't know?
Speaker 3: All right, all right, excellent, excellent.
Speaker 1: We had Brent Reeves on the shaker. Brent, great to
Speaker 1: see you.
Speaker 3: That's ah. This needs to be identified as a wooden
Speaker 3: egg full of lead shot. I think wooden egg full
Speaker 3: of lead shot.
Speaker 1: Great to see you, Brent, Thank you, Buddy to Brent's left,
Speaker 1: Ben La grown on foods. Good to see you, Good
Speaker 1: to see it, Ben, thanks for coming. Man on the Render,
Speaker 1: we used to sing. I bet we used to sing.
Speaker 1: There was a time when my idea for the Render
Speaker 1: was to have a live band here every single no no,
Speaker 1: I mean not just me. I was gonna try to
Speaker 1: have a live band here every single Render to play
Speaker 1: and I did you know, it just didn't happen. But
Speaker 1: it's been a while since we sang. If you if
Speaker 1: you're new to The Beargrease Render, this is the Burgers
Speaker 1: podcast is documentary style podcast. The Beargrease Render is where
Speaker 1: we gather around every other week and talk about the
Speaker 1: actual bear Grease podcast. Early on the first year, we
Speaker 1: played music probably every two or three times, not because
Speaker 1: we think we're good, but because we like to have fun.
Speaker 1: We like, as we said, you know, our kids. So
Speaker 1: last night, my daughter, Missy, and I were practicing and
Speaker 1: my daughter, who was in her room it's supposed to
Speaker 1: be asleep, texted me and.
Speaker 2: Said, uh, hey, y'all sound great.
Speaker 1: She said, yeah, y'all sounds great and I and there
Speaker 1: was a delay in the next text, and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: that's really nice. I was actually encouraged. I was I
Speaker 1: need a little encouragement from time to time with my music.
Speaker 1: And then the next text was how long are y'all
Speaker 1: going to be playing? And the next text said PTSD.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's talking about you know. We started playing during
Speaker 2: COVID and that song was one of the first songs
Speaker 2: I ever learned to play on the banjo, and that
Speaker 2: when Clay heard that song, he was like, I think
Speaker 2: I can play the guitar, like it was so unimpressive.
Speaker 2: He's like, I could do that too.
Speaker 1: I forgot I could play guitar.
Speaker 3: Y'all missed. The funniest thing I've said in years is
Speaker 3: when I found this egg, I thought, man, can sit
Speaker 3: on this. That's kind of like what he does.
Speaker 5: Ain't it good?
Speaker 3: Hats this out while y'all are playing.
Speaker 5: I used to play spoons, like you know, it's two
Speaker 5: separate spoons. That's like luxurious stuff right there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kept waiting for you to do the old
Speaker 3: Why how.
Speaker 2: Are you a good spoon player? Ben trained spoon spoon players.
Speaker 5: It's in my percussion repertoire.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, hey, Ben used to play for the Arkansas
Speaker 2: Razorbacks marching band.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. That's why the percussion was coming
Speaker 1: so easy to you.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I feel like we should just go around and
Speaker 2: say the most astonishing facts about ourselves and our achievements
Speaker 2: that no one knows about. You know, it seems really
Speaker 2: important in high school, some of the things you did
Speaker 2: and hasn't mad.
Speaker 1: Would you like to say?
Speaker 2: I don't know, doctor, weirdly know, I was thinking more
Speaker 2: about Yeah, I'm trying to think of obscure facts likes.
Speaker 1: To Brent's whole podcast is obscure facts about his life.
Speaker 1: So Brent Raves is here, render boy, Brent Raeves And
Speaker 1: what I laughed out loud for real, this is no
Speaker 1: joke and there's there's big potential for bias in me
Speaker 1: because you're my friend. I want you to succeed. You know,
Speaker 1: This Country Life is on the bear Grease feet, so
Speaker 1: there's like big, big question marks around whether my opinion
Speaker 1: is legit. However, I'm gonna say it is because they're
Speaker 1: just as big a biases about being critical about just
Speaker 1: the work that we're doing. So like I'm like very
Speaker 1: critical of you too, sure, And so I would feel
Speaker 1: every morning.
Speaker 3: Oh it's all the the phone ringing late Clayon. I like, well,
Speaker 3: he's not asking me to go film him, so I
Speaker 3: am in trouble.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I feel like those two things balance out,
Speaker 1: like my love of you and want you to succeed,
Speaker 1: but also me scrutinizing your every word and uh, I
Speaker 1: laugh out loud by myself almost every single time I
Speaker 1: listened to This Country Life, I really do. I mean,
Speaker 1: Brent is an astounding writer because he and I've had
Speaker 1: You know, you could listen to some of Brent's stories
Speaker 1: and be like, how could have all this have happened
Speaker 1: to one person, which is a legitimate question. But I've
Speaker 1: been around Brent enough to know to have been to
Speaker 1: hear him tell a story that even I was a
Speaker 1: part of, and it was like, well, geez, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have told it near that entertaining. So, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think Brent. It might seem like Brent has had like
Speaker 1: an exceptionally wild life. I think he's probably had a
Speaker 1: more wildlife than most people. Yeah, but he's a really
Speaker 1: really good storyteller and remembers detail and remembers stuff that
Speaker 1: other people don't. So I'm paying you a big compliment,
Speaker 1: but I'm also drawing it. I'm also trying to make
Speaker 1: sense of it. But no, you're your your last one
Speaker 1: about three stories that didn't fit. Yeah, So the ethical
Speaker 1: qualms that I wanted to bring up was cursing in church.
Speaker 1: Did y'all hear that?
Speaker 5: That's the funniest stories?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hunter, your son hearing his father used foul language.
Speaker 3: Three days before that? I mean, you would think of
Speaker 3: all the things that happened to a little fella in
Speaker 3: three days. I mean, it's everything he looks at in
Speaker 3: every direction. It's something new, you know. I mean, because
Speaker 3: he's just learning to talk and learning to hear and
Speaker 3: learn to pay attention to things that's going around him,
Speaker 3: you know, And of all the things of all the
Speaker 3: things that happened in that span of time, that was
Speaker 3: the one thing he keyed on, and in the one
Speaker 3: place he remembered that he had a city wide audience.
Speaker 3: We were being broadcast on the radio that day. The
Speaker 3: church service was.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, and then uh and then your buddy who
Speaker 1: shot Jesus.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, man. I have told that story so many times,
Speaker 3: and it is it's it always starts out some you know.
Speaker 3: It's like you do. Sometimes you'll say, Brent, tell me
Speaker 3: a story, and I'm like, I ain't got one, you know,
Speaker 3: it's just things happened, and and that reminded me of something.
Speaker 3: You know, we're riding down the road. That's when the
Speaker 3: best stories come out, when we're doing something else and
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh gosh, I just saw a redbird. That
Speaker 3: reminds me of something. But if somebody points a pistol
Speaker 3: at me, it says, tell me a story. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: I got a buddy that shot Jesus. One time, I
Speaker 3: can tell you that story.
Speaker 1: So it was a misfire, like he was. He didn't mean.
Speaker 3: He didn't, Yes, exactly, he didn't. He thought he had
Speaker 3: unloaded his gun. There's lots of story, lots of lessons
Speaker 3: in that. Yeah, he wasn't he wasn't upset thinking he
Speaker 3: had shot Jesus. He had shot his pistol in his house. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: a loaded firearm that he thought was unloaded.
Speaker 1: Now was he being funny when he No, he was
Speaker 1: very distraught. But why did he say I'm going to hell?
Speaker 3: He took it. It was so a big burden on him. Now,
Speaker 3: this guy had just gone to work as a police officer.
Speaker 3: He hadn't gone to the academy yet, so he had
Speaker 3: a big burden. And in the state of Arkansas, I'm
Speaker 3: not sure that rookies now are if it's the same
Speaker 3: way or not. But you when we went to work,
Speaker 3: you had a year from the time you were hired
Speaker 3: by a department and be under a field training officer,
Speaker 3: and then within that year span, sometime during that year,
Speaker 3: you had to go to the academy and pass that
Speaker 3: to go, you know, back to work on the street
Speaker 3: and be a certified police officer. So he hadn't done
Speaker 3: that yet. So everything that he's learning he's learning from
Speaker 3: a you know, the officers above him. And he was
Speaker 3: getting ready to go.
Speaker 1: To work that night, and he's quick drawn, Yeah, revolved.
Speaker 1: Was he pulling the trigger?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: Apparently so?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, but but it was if it was
Speaker 1: like if you I've got a story, But if a revolver,
Speaker 1: if you feel like it's unloaded and it's a double action,
Speaker 1: you pull the trigger, the hammer drops back and then fires.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 1: So I mean he must have been doing that.
Speaker 3: Absolutely it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let me ask you a question. Okay, And
Speaker 1: if you have any other comments on this country life,
Speaker 1: now's now's the time. Have you ever accidentally discharged the firearm?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Never, not once? Never?
Speaker 3: I take that back, Yes, I have turkey hunting.
Speaker 1: Okay, yep, see I knew it. What happened me?
Speaker 2: And do you feel like you're being unfairly interrogated right now?
Speaker 3: No? Okay, because I could lie just a Tuesday.
Speaker 2: I'm just watching the facial expressions here, trying to figure
Speaker 2: out what clays.
Speaker 3: I could have. I could have lied and said no,
Speaker 3: but I do recall all the time. Uh, And it
Speaker 3: was a faulty. It was a brown and pump shotgun
Speaker 3: had a broken safety. Me and another friend of mine
Speaker 3: had left going turkey hunting in the afternoon. We were
Speaker 3: walking down this road and he said you better. We
Speaker 3: need to load up now because we as soon as
Speaker 3: we step off in the woods, we got to sit down. Right,
Speaker 3: there's a turkey. We knew where the turkeys at. So
Speaker 3: when I'm standing, I've got my barrel away from everybody,
Speaker 3: I went in, threw one in the magazine, in the
Speaker 3: from the magazine into the barrel, and as soon as
Speaker 3: it slide hit home, bam, it went off. Really yeah,
Speaker 3: and that's with my That wasn't my finger touching the
Speaker 3: trigger and I didn't have a finger in the housing there. Wow,
Speaker 3: that's it went off? Yeah, absolutely, did Ben?
Speaker 1: Have you ever shot a firearm intentionally?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 6: I haven't, Dad, I shot holding my gris.
Speaker 1: You did, Yeah, I vaguely remember that. It was after
Speaker 1: I was you know, it was in an area where
Speaker 1: that peg board is and the backside of it's all rock,
Speaker 1: you know on the outside. Uh huh, and uh. It
Speaker 1: was pretty revealing. You know how dangerous it is to
Speaker 1: play with firearms.
Speaker 6: You know what were you doing? I was just cleaning
Speaker 6: my gun or something.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: It was probably at three fifties and I couldn't have
Speaker 6: been a revolver.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it was, but I.
Speaker 1: So you intentionally pulled the trigger. You just didn't think
Speaker 1: it was loaded. Yeah, you just thought you had cocked it.
Speaker 1: And they're just gonna kind of yeah. Yeah, pretty stupid.
Speaker 1: Pull the trigger. Pull the trigger, man, Miss nukemb Have
Speaker 1: you ever fired a gun on accident?
Speaker 2: I have a story about a bow and arrow. Okay,
Speaker 2: So when when we were all little, my brothers left
Speaker 2: my two middle so I had three older brothers, and
Speaker 2: then me and my parents left the two middle brothers
Speaker 2: alone for the first time. And the oldest brother was
Speaker 2: kind of law and order and he kept everything everything
Speaker 2: going well. I remember as we were pulling off, all
Speaker 2: of us felt a little bit nervous about the two
Speaker 2: middle brothers being home alone. I was the youngest sister,
Speaker 2: and I still knew this isn't a good idea. And
Speaker 2: as we pulled. As we pull out, my dad yells
Speaker 2: out the window, hey, don't play with bb guns while
Speaker 2: I'm gone. Like we were just they were just you
Speaker 2: could tell now as a parent, I know my parents
Speaker 2: were just thinking through all the things they could do
Speaker 2: to hurt themselves. So my brothers went back to their
Speaker 2: bedroom and got a bow and arrow. Now it wasn't
Speaker 2: like a professional bow and arrow. We weren't bow hunters
Speaker 2: or anything. I don't even know what kind it was,
Speaker 2: but apparently it had a an arrow that could go
Speaker 2: through a boot, through a leather boot. We learned that
Speaker 2: because my second oldest brother shot my brother right above
Speaker 2: me in the foot with this arrow while we were gone.
Speaker 2: And when we pull up, we just see being like
Speaker 2: writhing in pain on the ground outside, Randy looking very
Speaker 2: scared to see my dad pull.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: They they were trying to get the boot off, but
Speaker 2: it was I mean, it was in his skin, and
Speaker 2: and so they were they were freaking out. And after
Speaker 2: that I decided to never mess with with anything. And
Speaker 2: so I was a good sister and always learned from
Speaker 2: my brother's mistakes. And so no, I have never not
Speaker 2: that I've.
Speaker 1: Ever discharged the fire ate my compliments to him for
Speaker 1: not shooting Bob.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were just trying to keep you real.
Speaker 3: Where are you going with this?
Speaker 1: Well? Have you I've got a story one time, one time,
Speaker 1: I remember Misty called me when I was away and
Speaker 1: she she said, something's going on in the house. It
Speaker 1: was late at night. Do you remember this?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: I remember?
Speaker 1: And it was real, It was real scary. She thought
Speaker 1: somebody was in our house and I wasn't there, and
Speaker 1: and I don't remember the details at all, so I
Speaker 1: won't elaborate on them. I just remember telling her, it's
Speaker 1: totally fine if you just want to take that pistol
Speaker 1: and just fire off around, just aim it right through
Speaker 1: the roof, just shoot. I told her to do that,
Speaker 1: and she didn't, and it ended up like being you
Speaker 1: know nothing. Do you remember that?
Speaker 2: I vaguely I remember.
Speaker 1: I remember thinking what it would be. I put the
Speaker 1: roof on my house when we built it, and I
Speaker 1: remember thinking it won't be too hard.
Speaker 2: I very clearly remember, but that's not I don't remember it.
Speaker 2: I missed and missed the part about the roof. I
Speaker 2: remember you telling me just get the pistol and just
Speaker 2: if anybody's in the house, just shoot. And I said,
Speaker 2: what if I miss? And we just built the house.
Speaker 1: And that was to shoot somebody.
Speaker 2: Right, You weren't, but that's how I heard it. I
Speaker 2: was like, miss, and you said, hey, just just you
Speaker 2: told me just it's okay if you fire a bunch
Speaker 2: of holes in the in the sheet rock, and I
Speaker 2: just remember thinking it was really hard to put up.
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, we take we take intruders pretty serious
Speaker 1: around our place. Real on the door text first come over,
Speaker 1: No Dad, I've told you this story. I'd be perhaps
Speaker 1: you won't remember the details of it. But I got
Speaker 1: a Ruger forty four magnum nine inch barrel super Red
Speaker 1: Hawk for graduation. Graduation, a big, big pistol. I was
Speaker 1: doing some hog hunting and I was gonna deer hunt
Speaker 1: with it. And one day I was setting out on
Speaker 1: public land hog hunting and just board sitting on a
Speaker 1: log and it's a double action revolver and I was playing.
Speaker 1: I was fiddling with the double action double Do you
Speaker 1: know what a double action is, Misty. It's a revolver.
Speaker 1: So you cocked the hammer, but if you but well,
Speaker 1: if you pull the trigger, the gun goes off.
Speaker 3: It way you talk down to the most highly educated person.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: That's my role in this, well.
Speaker 1: A double action because I was I was in the
Speaker 1: hammer with my thumb click click, and pulling the trigger
Speaker 1: but having my thumb on the trigger and letting it
Speaker 1: down softly, just kind of getting a feel for the trigger.
Speaker 1: And I had just done it so much I just
Speaker 1: kind of got into like a comatose state. And I
Speaker 1: had that barrel laid across my leg just like this
Speaker 1: right here.
Speaker 6: And uh.
Speaker 1: And at one point I didn't put my thumb on
Speaker 1: the trigger and I just pulled the trigger and it
Speaker 1: just forty four mag I mean it was like a
Speaker 1: major thing, like it was. Yeah, and I probably never
Speaker 1: I learned a lot from that. It left black marks
Speaker 1: on my pants.
Speaker 3: Sure on both ends.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that that? No, I don't you know.
Speaker 1: I didn't tell you this story.
Speaker 2: Never made it to my ears.
Speaker 1: I didn't tell you for a long time. I did
Speaker 1: tell you that eventually.
Speaker 2: Okay, I feel like this is sweet.
Speaker 5: Remember he has drank that out of his mind.
Speaker 1: It was not good, not good at all. How old
Speaker 1: were you I would have been like in high school
Speaker 1: that gun. Yeah, So firearm safety big theme in this
Speaker 1: country life. Okay, the other the other.
Speaker 3: Hey, I got a call one time when I was
Speaker 3: the deputy share here's a law enforcement story. Got a
Speaker 3: call one time this lady said, somebody shot my house.
Speaker 3: And so, man, we're beating feet over there. We'll see
Speaker 3: what's going on. And we go into this lady. She
Speaker 3: lives in a mobile home in the middle of nowhere
Speaker 3: and she was in the laundry room ironing and the
Speaker 3: deep freezes in there, and laying on top of the
Speaker 3: deep freeze is a forty five round that's made a
Speaker 3: dent in the deep freeze. But it came straight down
Speaker 3: through the roof. Somebody shot the gun up in the
Speaker 3: air and he came came through the roof, hit the
Speaker 3: deep freeze right beside where she was ironing.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, just the bullets laying there, just the bullet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it had lost enough velocity that it probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: have killed somebody.
Speaker 3: It would have hurt. Yeah. I mean it came through
Speaker 3: and it made a big dent in that deep freeze.
Speaker 3: It hit her on the top of the head.
Speaker 1: This is this is like the side of the Unsolved
Speaker 1: Mysteries where like eventually comes out like there's somebody listening
Speaker 1: to this right now down around Warren, Arkansas. What county
Speaker 1: was it, County? Union County, Arkansas. That's going, man, I
Speaker 1: let one fly straight up in the air.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've always felt like if you if you shot like
Speaker 1: because like squirrel hunting, you're shooting twenty two rounds in
Speaker 1: the air, and if you miss, like twenty two rounds
Speaker 1: just going in the air. I've always felt like they
Speaker 1: would lose enough velocity that it would be like dropping
Speaker 1: a twenty two round like out of an airplane, like
Speaker 1: it would just hit on the ground. Do you think
Speaker 1: that's true.
Speaker 3: I don't think any of that's even close.
Speaker 1: You remember me telling the story about shooting the game
Speaker 1: warden's house. That's one story that it's not quite as
Speaker 1: dramatic as that introduction. But whoa, I've got a story.
Speaker 1: I told you you got to want you hear it.
Speaker 3: You'll remember it.
Speaker 1: But uh the game warden lived right next door to me,
Speaker 1: and his house burned. He moved mobile Homi in and
Speaker 1: I was shooting my bow in the backyard and I
Speaker 1: missed my target and it hit hit a rock and
Speaker 1: flew right in the back of his and uh so
Speaker 1: I went and knocked on his door, and I said, man,
Speaker 1: I got some bad news for you. He was really
Speaker 1: nice about it.
Speaker 3: So anyway, I appreciated that.
Speaker 1: Robert Ball really nice guy. And you just pulled the
Speaker 1: air out, Yeah, did he do you have to repair it?
Speaker 6: No, it was a little low, and you know, you
Speaker 6: didn't notice it much.
Speaker 1: His wife we had to call the amulus first wife,
Speaker 1: not really so if you own somewhere around Hot Springs, Arkansas,
Speaker 1: a nineteen sixty four double wide with a small arrow hole,
Speaker 1: and it may have been that mobile.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: Uh, that's funny. That's funny. Okay. The other thing I
Speaker 1: listened to the I got caught up on this country
Speaker 1: life this week, and so your your story of chasing
Speaker 1: the school bus in the truck?
Speaker 3: How about that?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's crazy, Brent. You must have been a
Speaker 1: wild kid.
Speaker 3: Man. I just have wild ideas and it didn't take
Speaker 3: me long.
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid that your dad would have.
Speaker 3: I wasn't scared of nothing.
Speaker 1: Did your dad not?
Speaker 3: I told you I've been on h Spencer's Meat Eater
Speaker 3: Trivia twice, and when I sit out in that chair,
Speaker 3: I know I'm fixing to win. I have got a
Speaker 3: total of four questions right out of twenty of the
Speaker 3: two times I've been on there.
Speaker 1: That's the usual amount of undeserved confidence.
Speaker 3: But when I sit down there, I think, man, I
Speaker 3: am fixed to kick everybody's butt in't here. I just
Speaker 3: I never walked up to the plate. I didn't think
Speaker 3: I wasn't going to hit a home run. I hit
Speaker 3: won and little I had no reason to think that.
Speaker 3: But I don't lack for self confidence.
Speaker 1: But when you were nine years old taking your dad's
Speaker 1: truck and chasing the school bus.
Speaker 3: The only thing I could think of was me passing
Speaker 3: that school bus and throwing them the deuces as I
Speaker 3: went by, and barely looking over the steering wheel.
Speaker 1: Wow, we don't my dream of mine. And I'm going
Speaker 1: to cast this out there and this will hopefully get
Speaker 1: back to who I wanted to get back to. I
Speaker 1: want to have Tim Reeves on this podcast.
Speaker 3: Ah, he's a good He's a better storyteller than I
Speaker 3: ever will.
Speaker 1: Will he do it?
Speaker 3: Nope?
Speaker 1: Yeah, will Tim eventually to the Bear Grease Render podcast.
Speaker 1: We want to embarrass you and just Isn's brother all
Speaker 1: these stories.
Speaker 2: But you just yeah, you just talked about his dad,
Speaker 2: just making sure everybody knows it's brother and father.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he will come.
Speaker 3: He's the best storyteller in the world.
Speaker 1: And we get like, you know, I don't want to
Speaker 1: even tell. I don't want to even talk. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to sit there.
Speaker 3: When we would sit around at the duck camp and talk,
Speaker 3: he was just spitting out one story after another. My
Speaker 3: buddy that taught me how to that started me in
Speaker 3: in outdoor video would grab a camera and set it up,
Speaker 3: and Tim was like he forgot how to talk. He
Speaker 3: had a stroke or something. He's just like he just
Speaker 3: freezes up. Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not what I believe about Tim. Tim
Speaker 1: would be great. Tim, You're invited, Please come there you go.
Speaker 2: Hey, let me tell you my favorite story from this
Speaker 2: country life lately. Brin's retirement story.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was.
Speaker 4: That was.
Speaker 2: Shep is the one that told me to listen to it, really,
Speaker 2: Shep new Coombe did. Yeah, he listened to it. He
Speaker 2: and Clay were on the way to ball practice and
Speaker 2: they didn't finish it. He went to ball practice, he
Speaker 2: came out and he said, Dad, can we can we
Speaker 2: finish up that podcast? And so they came in and
Speaker 2: they said, you should really listen. Listen to this one.
Speaker 2: Brent's going to retire. I guess did you read you
Speaker 2: recorded it before you retired, like the week before you retired,
Speaker 2: so you weren't retired anyway. So I listened to it
Speaker 2: that day and yeah, that was. It was a very
Speaker 2: touching Brent.
Speaker 6: That was Is that where he went over the fence?
Speaker 5: Yep?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would get the lady that was really good.
Speaker 1: That was really good. Man.
Speaker 6: I tell you what, I tell you what I would
Speaker 6: have done. I would have called in sick.
Speaker 3: Somebody had to go in there.
Speaker 2: How's it feel to be U It's uh.
Speaker 3: It's kind of surreal. Yeah, you know, that's a big
Speaker 3: responsibility that I carried for a long time, thirty two years,
Speaker 3: and it feels good. It's uh, it's strange though, it's
Speaker 3: it's just a little weird, you know. And I told,
Speaker 3: I told Alexis, you know, Bailey, who's eleven, she's so
Speaker 3: much younger than my other two children, Amy and Hunter,
Speaker 3: who they were aware of the things that I was
Speaker 3: doing and the stuff I was going through, and and uh,
Speaker 3: it was hard. And uh, I told Alexis said, I
Speaker 3: don't want Bailey to ever even know anything about that
Speaker 3: stuff that I used to do. And she says, I
Speaker 3: think that's wrong. She needs to know about her daddy did,
Speaker 3: so when she gets older, you know, maybe maybe she
Speaker 3: can learn some of that kind of stuff. But she's
Speaker 3: probably right. She probably doesn't need to know eventually, because
Speaker 3: it gets kind of an excuse of why I'm so crazy.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's been a lot of it's been pretty
Speaker 3: pretty wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well cool, No, I'm I love it.
Speaker 3: I love it very much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ben, what you got there on the floor is
Speaker 1: the deer. Let me see that thing. I hadn't even
Speaker 1: touched it. He's got a good mass, So Ben, Ben
Speaker 1: killed the biggest buck like you've ever killed?
Speaker 5: Yep, yep. On September twenty third, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: Well open, there's more impressive than what I saw on
Speaker 1: video or what the photo I saw. Just the mass. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that that was. You know, you can tell a lot.
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't judge a white tail entirely based
Speaker 1: upon mass, but you can tell quite a bit about
Speaker 1: their age, just maturity level. Maybe not fine tune in it,
Speaker 1: but I mean that's for sure a four and a
Speaker 1: half year old plus deer for around here. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's a it's a ten point.
Speaker 3: Don't don't you know how much you score? If your score?
Speaker 1: No, I hadn't scored it. I mean, yeah, are you
Speaker 1: going to score it today?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 5: I don't know, might as well you could.
Speaker 1: You always be disappointed.
Speaker 5: That's kind of where I've been, is like I don't
Speaker 5: want to taint my perspective.
Speaker 1: Scores, you know. So back in the day. I mean
Speaker 1: back when this American hunting television started in the in
Speaker 1: the in the nineties, late eighties. Man, if you saw
Speaker 1: the cover of a VHS tape at Walmart that said
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty inch buck by bo, you were
Speaker 1: just like, holy cow, I want to see that one
Speaker 1: fifty for sure they would be like man, I mean,
Speaker 1: and those were big numbers. I don't really understand what's happened.
Speaker 1: There are more one forties, one fifties and bigger deer,
Speaker 1: but more people have cameras, more people are filming, and
Speaker 1: in the outdoor industry, there's just a lot more one
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty seventy eighty ninety two hundred inch deer
Speaker 1: being killed on film. But a one hundred and forty
Speaker 1: inch buck is still just as hard to kill and
Speaker 1: still just as elusive. Like in my if my in
Speaker 1: my hunting locally, like I hunt one hundred and forty
Speaker 1: inch deer about once every eight years, just the truth,
Speaker 1: I mean, And I have hunted some good deer in
Speaker 1: the last several years. But but I say that, to
Speaker 1: say a deer like that, I wouldn't even score because
Speaker 1: it won't it probably won't. It won't score one forty,
Speaker 1: so it might as well just just say you think
Speaker 1: it's one sixty. Yeah, I would just say probably it's
Speaker 1: probably in the ballpark of one sixty.
Speaker 5: But it was the story that meant so much to
Speaker 5: me and just how all the stars aligned. Yeah, well
Speaker 5: all that's well, even just this place I'm hunting is
Speaker 5: some private land that I was I've been picking up
Speaker 5: the phone and writing letters, trying hard to find a
Speaker 5: place to for me and my little girls to hunt.
Speaker 5: It was like winning the lottery, Like I couldn't believe
Speaker 5: that they called me after getting my letter. The summer,
Speaker 5: I was scouting and put cameras up, and this is
Speaker 5: one of the first bucks on camera, really, and I
Speaker 5: and I just thought, and he was consistent, I mean
Speaker 5: almost daily, and it was just like is this too
Speaker 5: good to be true? Like I write this letter, I'm
Speaker 5: hunting this land, this does the first buck I see.
Speaker 5: I talked to Jessica and my wife, and I was like, listen,
Speaker 5: he's so consistent. If I stay out there all day
Speaker 5: on opening day, like he will die. There's no way
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna see him. I stay all day. So
Speaker 5: I get out there opening day and it's like ninety degrees.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you remember how hot it was.
Speaker 5: It was so hot, and I stay, I saw doze
Speaker 5: just all day. I went came back out around four
Speaker 5: o'clock and thinking like, man, I can't believe this buck
Speaker 5: has it come. Just like so many of those hunts,
Speaker 5: it was right at dusk that these four to doho
Speaker 5: come out. And they come up and all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: it's like they just like I had a neon flashing
Speaker 5: light on me, and they just got so nervous and
Speaker 5: they all were working me and stomping their feet and
Speaker 5: all that jazz for probably about twenty minutes. Oh really,
Speaker 5: And I was just so nervous. I was like these
Speaker 5: I was like, I really hope the buck doesn't come
Speaker 5: out right now when these dough are about to sure enough,
Speaker 5: I see three bucks coming from the thicket. And let
Speaker 5: me tell you this. I know where this buck sleeps,
Speaker 5: I know where he eats. I mean, I know his
Speaker 5: schedule and where this guy's at. He comes up from
Speaker 5: the thicket and I'm just thinking, golly, while he's dough
Speaker 5: on me and you.
Speaker 3: Can see him come.
Speaker 5: He's coming, He's coming, and he the doe start walking
Speaker 5: away they were spooked, like, not to the point of running,
Speaker 5: but they're just like, I don't like this guy. And
Speaker 5: he comes in to feed while she's still kind of
Speaker 5: spooked at me, and I just got nervous, like I
Speaker 5: didn't want to wait around too long. And it was dusk,
Speaker 5: and so he was. He was slightly quartered a quarter
Speaker 5: toward me, you know, not preferable. But I knew I
Speaker 5: just I needed to take a shot. Well, I shot,
Speaker 5: and I did hit him. I knew I hit him,
Speaker 5: but the way he behaved, I thought, I don't know
Speaker 5: if I hit him.
Speaker 3: Real great.
Speaker 5: He ran twenty yards and looked around with his little
Speaker 5: buddies beside him, and then he just turned up the
Speaker 5: this mountain that I'm on and he just ran one
Speaker 5: hundred yards and I watched him run up the pill
Speaker 5: uphill pill I mean sprinted. I thought, oh no. Well,
Speaker 5: eight minutes later I hear him crash. Well, I got
Speaker 5: down and check my arrow and it was gut shot
Speaker 5: and I was like, golly. To make things crazier with
Speaker 5: it not only getting dark, is we've got a massive
Speaker 5: thunderstorm coming in in about thirty minutes. And me and
Speaker 5: my daughter, my oldest daughter, go out. I mean just
Speaker 5: ride at dawn and we searched high and low that
Speaker 5: area where he was at. We couldn't find blood, We
Speaker 5: couldn't find anything, and it had.
Speaker 1: Poor Yeah, was gone right.
Speaker 5: We searched for two hours up on that mountain and
Speaker 5: then I went down to the thicket where I know
Speaker 5: he beds. I thought that's not where he goes, and
Speaker 5: there'd be water flowing. Looked around a bit and I
Speaker 5: knew that'd be like a need on a haystack. And
Speaker 5: my friend Matt Taylor, he knows the guy with a dog,
Speaker 5: so he come out. He was actually confident about the rain.
Speaker 5: He said that when the deer dying, that there's a
Speaker 5: pharrenomb that released through their hoof, and the rain actually
Speaker 5: kind of spreads it out a bit. And he said
Speaker 5: his dog's tracked after rain all the time. I was like, okay,
Speaker 5: that's yeah exactly. Anyway, he got.
Speaker 1: Some comments on that here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he gets out there and the dog she picked up.
Speaker 5: She picked up his trail from where I shot all
Speaker 5: the way up the mountain, and then she got real confused,
Speaker 5: and he said it's it's probably because we were walking
Speaker 5: around so much. So they say, I was like, that's great, excuse. Well,
Speaker 5: he stayed out there. We searched for hours, We worked
Speaker 5: that mountain, and then I convinced him to go down
Speaker 5: to the thicket. We tried the thicket and uh couldn't
Speaker 5: find him, and I was pretty devastated. It was just like,
Speaker 5: I don't know what what to do next. You know,
Speaker 5: it meets gone and this there's just this thicket is bad.
Speaker 3: It's so thick.
Speaker 5: Well, anyway, I slept on it. We'll got Monday morning.
Speaker 5: I said, I'm gonna take a day off work and
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go search that thicket, every inch of it.
Speaker 5: He's got to be there, he's he's got to be dead.
Speaker 5: He's got to be on this eighty acres that I'm hunting.
Speaker 5: So I literally get to that thicket and zig zag
Speaker 5: it in a perfect systematic way. I'll show you my
Speaker 5: on X trail later, Brent and Gary of where I was.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask if you used on X to
Speaker 1: I'll show you. It'll make a real grid.
Speaker 5: I mean it was crazy. Yeah, But anyway, it's now
Speaker 5: like almost evening and I thought, you know what, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna go walk to the total opposite end of the property.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna make a big circle. I'll go over the
Speaker 5: mountain again, and then I'll go to this fence line
Speaker 5: I know of, And this fence line it splits the
Speaker 5: woods up where this farmer lets his cattle sometimes go,
Speaker 5: and so it's real wide open woods. And then on
Speaker 5: my left will be my thick woods that I think
Speaker 5: he's in. Well, on those rare looks to the right,
Speaker 5: about one hundred and fifty yards, I see a giant
Speaker 5: vulture and I thought, I think I just spook that vulture,
Speaker 5: and so I turned started walking in another one. I
Speaker 5: was like, they're eating something big. I start running and
Speaker 5: there's another vulture, and sure enough that was him. Whoa
Speaker 5: and he he ran from where I shot about four
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty yards. Based on the route he took
Speaker 5: by the crow flies, it was two fifty three hundred
Speaker 5: yards right, and so that's where I got him. It's
Speaker 5: I it was a story of perseverance because I'm the
Speaker 5: kind of person that's like, I don't like taking note
Speaker 5: for an answer, And when I woke up Monday, I
Speaker 5: was like, why do I really need to spend a
Speaker 5: day doing that? It's like, that's just what I've got
Speaker 5: to do. I know he's there.
Speaker 1: You know what. The thing about a gut shot animal
Speaker 1: is that that's a mortal wound, so that that animal
Speaker 1: is gonna be gonna be dead.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a bummer. You couldn't couldn't find it.
Speaker 5: But yeah, because he had a lot of meat, it
Speaker 5: was it was huge. Yeah, definitely the biggest here.
Speaker 1: I've talked to a guy. I've talked to two people
Speaker 1: and the last couple of weeks that have used drones
Speaker 1: to recover deer.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was actually a guy in Missouri that had shot
Speaker 1: a deer and he told me and I said, and
Speaker 1: he talked to me about what happened, and it was like,
Speaker 1: how'd you find it? And he said, well, I had
Speaker 1: trouble finding it. He used a drone. And I actually
Speaker 1: was like, in the back of my mind was wondering
Speaker 1: if that was legal. Yeah, and because you can't use
Speaker 1: drones for hunting, but it's totally one hundred percent legal
Speaker 1: in Missouri. I don't know every state, but they're actually companies.
Speaker 1: They are people that are licensed drone operators that have businesses.
Speaker 1: And he called a you know, like drone operator company
Speaker 1: to come and they charged like four hundred dollars just
Speaker 1: to show up and one hundred dollars if they find
Speaker 1: the deer. I read on their Facebook page. So he
Speaker 1: paid them five hundred bucks and they found that deer
Speaker 1: just like that. It really his deer had run nine
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards from where he'd shot. Recovery really quickly.
Speaker 5: This is my on X route. That that's my ladder stand.
Speaker 5: That's that thicket, and he was way over here.
Speaker 3: Nice, that's pretty nowhere nowhere.
Speaker 5: Near and and that that all that blue is that thicket.
Speaker 6: Oh we care how you covered it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something here, and it's it's everybody knows
Speaker 1: how pro I am of hound hunters and hounds love hounds,
Speaker 1: grew up running dogs. I'm gonna throw this out there
Speaker 1: for the the dog tracking community.
Speaker 3: Two.
Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know just a charge. I've rarely I
Speaker 1: I when people tell me they're gonna call a dog,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, good luck it it I And it's
Speaker 1: not the dog's fault. It's not the handler's fault.
Speaker 3: And uh.
Speaker 1: And and if some of my friends that have dogs
Speaker 1: and have attracted ear for me, hear this, brothers know
Speaker 1: that I love you every dog handler. I know is
Speaker 1: training a pup? Was your guy training a pup?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Are you sure? Well not with us, but it was
Speaker 1: a younger dog that he hadn't run or something.
Speaker 5: Well, no, he it was a veteran dog. He told me.
Speaker 5: He told me a story that's like identical circumstance.
Speaker 1: But everybody, I'm always going to training and uh and
Speaker 1: then uh and then they want you to get out
Speaker 1: and see. This is where the story gets. This is
Speaker 1: where it's tough. You call a dog guy and he's like, well,
Speaker 1: stop looking, and you got to stop looking and wait
Speaker 1: till he gets there. And that's where I think most
Speaker 1: people mess up because you should have just kept looking.
Speaker 1: Do you see what I'm saying? I mean anyway, so
Speaker 1: I've got a little bit of a qualm with dog
Speaker 1: dog trailing, not that there's anything wrong with it, but.
Speaker 2: Just Britain and I am very nervous.
Speaker 1: I mean, I love them, I love love I know
Speaker 1: lots of good dog trailing guys, but I just I
Speaker 1: just haven't seen them. Yeah, and yeah, I've used them before.
Speaker 1: I've used them before.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I think what you're trying to say is
Speaker 5: it's not like the.
Speaker 1: Perfect it's not. It's not. I'm not. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: good thing.
Speaker 5: I got my hopes of I got my hopes way
Speaker 5: too high.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Most if you've never been around the recovery, and
Speaker 1: people are gonna right me and they're gonna be upset
Speaker 1: with me. I'm just telling you, I've hunted my whole life.
Speaker 1: And when they say you're calling the dog, you're in trouble.
Speaker 1: It's what you should do. You know, what do you do?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I know, here's what you should say. Practice shooting better.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, amen, Yeah, put the dog trailers out of business,
Speaker 3: make good shots. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, and I think too if if you're referring to people,
Speaker 2: we'll call it a dog almost as a last resort.
Speaker 2: And it is causation or correlation, you know, like these
Speaker 2: things are correlating, but the dog doesn't. But the deer
Speaker 2: is pretty good and lost. Something's wrong. Yes, that's people
Speaker 2: dogs in bad circumstances.
Speaker 1: Exactly, That's exactly PhD.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just not a guaranteed thing. It's just not
Speaker 1: a guarantee. You walk and now you want a dog
Speaker 1: to find it. Yeah, and he's going to end up
Speaker 1: at Walmart and the grocery section.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of mad at the hunters and I'm so
Speaker 2: pro dog right now that I'm kinda mad.
Speaker 5: No, I mean my father gutshot. It wasn't his, that's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, uh, brand, what was your favorite deer story
Speaker 1: of this one? This episode?
Speaker 3: K C story was good and I've heard him tell
Speaker 3: that one before. You know that that was good.
Speaker 1: Uh And when rattled that buck in you can watch
Speaker 1: that on their YouTube channel. Yeah, it's a good and
Speaker 1: saw the med Eater YouTube channel.
Speaker 3: It's it's a good it's a good story and he
Speaker 3: tells it so well. I mean, he's very enthusiastic about it.
Speaker 3: But my as far as my absolute one hundred percent favorite,
Speaker 3: I like yours was great. Come on, I really liked that.
Speaker 3: That was a good story.
Speaker 1: Killing the deer in the coyoke.
Speaker 3: And the deer was good.
Speaker 5: Which one is it?
Speaker 1: It's which it's that double white throat patch up there right?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that is pretty in it.
Speaker 3: That's uh. That was a good.
Speaker 1: Story, better than mister Henry's story.
Speaker 3: Mister Henry is great, and I don't know that I
Speaker 3: could pick a favorite of him because there's there was
Speaker 3: a lot of differences in him. You know and that
Speaker 3: even the dog hunting story, you know, yeah, I identify
Speaker 3: that we used to have dogs, running dogs and deer dogs,
Speaker 3: but we didn't have walkers. We had beagles. I was
Speaker 3: telling somebody that other day about there was like, man,
Speaker 3: you know them walker dogs or throat pushing those dear
Speaker 3: bodyes so fast. You know, it's like a quick drawl.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like a shooting gallery out there. And
Speaker 3: I was like, man, we had beagles and we sat
Speaker 3: on the I remember sitting on the stand one time.
Speaker 3: These beagles. Can hear them coming out there and they
Speaker 3: sound like, you know, miniature hound dogs. And they was
Speaker 3: and they had logged in this in this place where
Speaker 3: I was. Where I was, we were hunting the year before,
Speaker 3: the winter before, so there was and it had been wet,
Speaker 3: so there was some deep skinner ruts in there, and
Speaker 3: you could hear you could hear them, the beagles coming,
Speaker 3: but they was oh oh, And then you hear them.
Speaker 1: No going down, And I thought, what the world is that?
Speaker 3: And I got to look it out there and I
Speaker 3: could see like a hundred yards you can see them
Speaker 3: all together coming across the top of the ground and
Speaker 3: put the disappeared barely.
Speaker 5: That's great falling in the sky.
Speaker 3: But anything with dogs, man, you know, I'm am about that.
Speaker 3: But mister Henry, mister Henry, is that guy's a legend.
Speaker 3: I'm surprised I hadn't already heard about him.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, But then which one stood out to you?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 5: The dog one was my favorite. And I'll tell you yeah,
Speaker 5: because saw my granddad deer hunted in the nineteen thirties
Speaker 5: and forties on horseback when there's hardly any deer in Arkansas,
Speaker 5: and that was the way they hunted. And so I've
Speaker 5: just grown up hearing those legends. And then that's how
Speaker 5: my dad started out hunting too, and so I've never
Speaker 5: got to experience that. So when I hear those stories
Speaker 5: and relate them to what I hear my granddad talking
Speaker 5: about growing up, it's it's like it helps me experience that.
Speaker 5: And when they talked about killing those three bucks, yeah,
Speaker 5: it's like I could just feel like how epic that
Speaker 5: would have been. How the camaraderie, Like it's like, wow,
Speaker 5: like all these guys bringing all these I mean, I
Speaker 5: had to have been just such a huge day for
Speaker 5: all of them. Yeah, involved, So I really enjoyed that
Speaker 5: story of all of them were good.
Speaker 3: There were so many unwritten rules about that too. You like,
Speaker 3: the camp next door had dogs, and they run their
Speaker 3: dogs run a deer in front of us, And if
Speaker 3: we killed a dog or killed a deer in front
Speaker 3: of their dogs, we gave them half the deer. I
Speaker 3: was just might as like one of the eleventh Commandment.
Speaker 3: Everybody did that. Lots of stuff like that, and they
Speaker 3: would just make for good neighbors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dad, which one stood out to you?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: Obviously I liked yours the best, but if I hadn't
Speaker 1: raised you, I would probably you know, I liked the
Speaker 1: two hundred inch buck because it's so unusual. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just like a freak story. I mean, how many
Speaker 1: guys in America has killed a two hundred inch buck? Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's in a category all by itself.
Speaker 1: But mister Henry, mister Henry smokes. I saw that picture
Speaker 1: of his room, Yeah, that I've never seen a room
Speaker 1: like that before.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's killed more bucks than I've ever
Speaker 1: even thought about. Yeah, and uh, you know for him
Speaker 1: to still be going at age eighty, I mean, like,
Speaker 1: you know, we we tracked some of the same periods.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm seventy five, he's eighty. Uh he could hunt.
Speaker 1: I couldn't.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And so I see what he did and and I
Speaker 1: mean I'm like in awe, this guy. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: he's like did you say he was a legend? Should
Speaker 1: have been a legend we should have known about. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, he's I don't think there's many people in
Speaker 1: the whole country that can match what him and his
Speaker 1: son did. Yeah, yeah, I was shocked. Like so my
Speaker 1: one of my one of my friends, Tracy Jones, over
Speaker 1: in East Tennessee, had said, Hey, there's a guy you
Speaker 1: got to meet over here in the mountains, and uh
Speaker 1: and and I knew nothing of this guy other than
Speaker 1: just what my friend told me. And uh so I
Speaker 1: went over there, and I didn't know what I was expecting.
Speaker 1: But that's not what I was expecting. Henry let us
Speaker 1: in his house. And and that video actually did not
Speaker 1: show the entire room. There were walls behind me that
Speaker 1: were full of big deer on Instagram.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I love I loved it.
Speaker 1: You probably told it the story better than the story
Speaker 1: really was about the guy's accusing him and his son.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you said, well, and then they're
Speaker 1: hard enough to kill in the day. There are enough
Speaker 1: to kill in the daytime. I can't imagine trying to
Speaker 1: kill them the night. Yeah, no, they The other thing
Speaker 1: is is that they those are all I didn't say it,
Speaker 1: but those are almost all public land deer.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: A lot of the biggest ones came from Illinois, you know.
Speaker 1: They They have gone to Illinois for thirty years and
Speaker 1: have and have They were never outfitted hunts. And he's
Speaker 1: just done it. He's just done a lot. But a
Speaker 1: neat guy. He just vibrated with excitement talking to him
Speaker 1: for real. Eve know, most older people you talk to
Speaker 1: their deer story is I've killed so.
Speaker 6: Many deer, I don't care about doing it anymore.
Speaker 1: Right, So when you find a guy like that, is
Speaker 1: that is so unique in itself that he's still fired
Speaker 1: up in seventy Now I'm sunenty five and I'm still
Speaker 1: fired up. Yeah, just as much as I was when
Speaker 1: I was thirty five. I dream about getting out, But
Speaker 1: after this knee surgery, I found other hobbies. Yeah that
Speaker 1: I like.
Speaker 3: It's easier.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I found hobbies that I don't have to climb
Speaker 1: moundas that I want to climb trees. I don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about older. I just go out and enjoy
Speaker 1: my hobby. So but I can't help it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be back in the woods at some time. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: Well the other thing, and I captured some of this
Speaker 1: on video that it doesn't really translate into putting it
Speaker 1: on social media that easy. But mister Henry has designed
Speaker 1: a tree stand that he's used for thirty years. He
Speaker 1: has a unique tree stand that's all his own design really,
Speaker 1: that's real lightweight and compact and that he uses. He
Speaker 1: has a he built an electronic deer cart for hauling deer.
Speaker 1: You know, once he got older and was hunting that
Speaker 1: far back in the mountains, he needed a cart. And man,
Speaker 1: that part of the world is it is incredible. They
Speaker 1: got big mountains too. I mean he was talking about
Speaker 1: those boomer little boomer chipmunk squirrels being over five thousand feet.
Speaker 1: I mean that's a high mountain with big relief. Like
Speaker 1: you know, if you're in Denver, Colorado, and you talking
Speaker 1: about a five thousand foot mountain, it might be flat.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the relief means how much mountain
Speaker 1: is actually there, but out there five thousand foot mountain
Speaker 1: might have four thousand feet of Really that's a big mountain.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: One thing he.
Speaker 6: Said that that caught my attention.
Speaker 1: You're talking about five thousand feet, you're talking about going
Speaker 1: deep into wilderness. But he at least once said he
Speaker 1: went back, you know an hour. Yeah, I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: places that you and I've hunted.
Speaker 6: I mean it's an hour and a half, two hours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean I don't know, maybe the road
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I don't question this guy at all.
Speaker 6: I mean any way, I mean he is like my
Speaker 6: new hero.
Speaker 1: Yeah. What did you think about Aaron Stanfol's confession?
Speaker 5: That was the funny story? You know what I thought
Speaker 5: about with that. I was like, you know when you're
Speaker 5: watching a sitcom and you're like kind of chuckling and laughing,
Speaker 5: and you kind of if you ever stopped and be like,
Speaker 5: if somebody did that in real life like that.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be funny, it wouldn't be funny.
Speaker 5: And you wouldn't Yeah, You're like, nobody would actually do that.
Speaker 5: That's how it felt. Like, listen to the story, it's like,
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, you really did that.
Speaker 1: Well, I would say the best thing that he did.
Speaker 1: Was he told the story? Yeah, I mean if he
Speaker 1: and I think he really was, like he was paying
Speaker 1: penance by just like telling the story.
Speaker 3: Well, I just I'll tell this story just because it's funny.
Speaker 3: I don't because I don't feel guilty about it at all.
Speaker 3: But you mentioned my brother earlier. Tim, we did. We
Speaker 3: have shared everything together. He's eight years older than me.
Speaker 3: He is absolutely next week. He is absolutely my hero
Speaker 3: to this very second, always has been. He took me
Speaker 3: hunting when he should have been left me at home
Speaker 3: because I was more in the way than the help.
Speaker 3: But he took me.
Speaker 1: And him I have a lot in common.
Speaker 3: He took me with him, and we shared everything except turkeys.
Speaker 3: You know. He would go listen and I would go listen.
Speaker 3: I call and that night you hear turkey. This morning, nope,
Speaker 3: you hear one. I heard three, Nope, I didn't hear anything,
Speaker 3: and gone so far as to He's like, I'm not
Speaker 3: hearing anything down here at the river. I'm going to
Speaker 3: go somewhere else. I would go so far as to
Speaker 3: taking the turkey foot I had dried out and make
Speaker 3: tracks where I knew he was going to see him.
Speaker 3: He's like, man I got some sign down here and
Speaker 3: I cannot hear this turkey. I'm like, bro, just hanging there.
Speaker 3: He's in there. You got this, you just got You
Speaker 3: got to lay with it just to keep him off
Speaker 3: of my spot.
Speaker 1: So okay, so this is this is no different than what.
Speaker 3: It is, exactly the same thing, even more links that
Speaker 3: you're going. There was no when it came to turkeys. Now,
Speaker 3: deer wasn't that big a deal for me and him,
Speaker 3: So we were actually scared. We was going to kill
Speaker 3: a deer. Didn't have to mess with it while we
Speaker 3: were So we just did the deer hunting to keep
Speaker 3: us busy till duck season started. So I get it.
Speaker 3: I know where they're coming from. I don't know why
Speaker 3: Fest up to it, but because you can go to
Speaker 3: heaven with that on your conscious, surely, I hope people
Speaker 3: a turkey hunter, I am good to go.
Speaker 1: Uh. I thought his story of killing the two bucks
Speaker 1: in Kansas was really good too.
Speaker 3: They stay apart.
Speaker 1: It just sounds so easy.
Speaker 6: All those were very very good stories.
Speaker 3: Every one of.
Speaker 1: Them just unbelievable. Most of them, well, we've done so
Speaker 1: We've done three deer Stories podcasts and just a full disclosure.
Speaker 1: Part of the Deer Stories thing is a function of
Speaker 1: the amount of work that it takes to do a
Speaker 1: documentary style podcast. And in the fall, we're we're hunting,
Speaker 1: we're traveling, we're doing stuff, And so the Deer Stories
Speaker 1: is a way for me to collect stories. And I
Speaker 1: love him just as much as his documentary style podcast. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I think it's a good change of pace for people,
Speaker 1: and and I I really, I really enjoy it. But
Speaker 1: we're about to We're about to start learning stuff again. Sorry, guys, you'
Speaker 1: are gonna actually have to listen and pay attention and
Speaker 1: not have any more fun. We're just like, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be like a militant journey through American history culture, deep
Speaker 1: dives into yourself. We're gonna be digging up our own
Speaker 1: our own issues, looking at the world. You ready, Missy.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm just saying I know about a couple of these.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good It's gonna be a good
Speaker 2: little run.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh gosh, I wish I could. I wish I
Speaker 1: could tell you what I'm working on. I've got three
Speaker 1: things I'm working on. Your shadow.
Speaker 2: I have a funny story about about Bear, our son
Speaker 2: who's had an incredible dear season so far. Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: gone out and and and sought a lot of land
Speaker 2: and done a lot of scouting and has good public
Speaker 2: land options and uh. He he's good at recruiting people
Speaker 2: to come with him. So there's there's a little crew
Speaker 2: of guys that goes out and they go out and hunt,
Speaker 2: and then he's also good at bringing them back to
Speaker 2: help him process his his deer. He does a great
Speaker 2: job of that. And he was telling us about one
Speaker 2: of his friends. One of his friends has a romantic interest.
Speaker 2: I think I think this is this is an okay
Speaker 2: story to tell. I don't think I'm disclosing anything, and
Speaker 2: has been less interested in helping Bear process venison this
Speaker 2: the he Bear said, they have a group chat all
Speaker 2: these guys, and Bear texted and said, hey, you've not
Speaker 2: been as a as as in the deer hunting this year.
Speaker 2: What's going on? I think you your priorities are are
Speaker 2: a little a little skewed this year. And the guy
Speaker 2: writes back on the thread to all the guys and
Speaker 2: he said, bear into your You'll understand when your priorities change.
Speaker 2: And bear bear in front of all of us. We're
Speaker 2: all processing. We had like a little meat processing party,
Speaker 2: and Bear very adamantly and boldly said, my priorities will
Speaker 2: never change. I told my mom, and she said, you
Speaker 2: need to record that somewhere.
Speaker 3: The same thing, the same reason y'all got your processing
Speaker 3: the deer is the same thing that's going to happen
Speaker 3: to Bear.
Speaker 5: One.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said. We had a good way.
Speaker 1: Strangely, I think Bear will have his life management skills
Speaker 1: down enough that he will be able to maintain high
Speaker 1: levels of integrity in both categories.
Speaker 2: Well, I looked at him. I said, Bear, I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure your priorities are going to change. And he said, well,
Speaker 2: what I'm saying and he started back pund a little bit.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that I think that my I alreadies
Speaker 2: will be such that it can accommodate both. I will
Speaker 2: not have to cut back on any deer hunting. I'm
Speaker 2: telling you right now, Bear needs to cut back on
Speaker 2: his deer hunting, working to school. His priorities are not
Speaker 2: quite what they should be right now. But he's had
Speaker 2: a very successful hunting Season's funny.
Speaker 3: That's good. That's good.
Speaker 1: That's good. Well, Hey, thank you guys so much. Ben,
Speaker 1: congratulations on the big buck. Thanks Brent. This country life man,
Speaker 1: it's going awesome.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Hey, I will tell you this, I will foreshadow touch here.
Speaker 1: Here we go, Brent Raves and I are fixing to
Speaker 1: do a Mississippi River expedition.
Speaker 3: Oh, the cats out, the catfish is out of the
Speaker 3: Look at what I.
Speaker 5: Kind of had.
Speaker 1: I'm wearing right here all that if you want to
Speaker 1: read that, Ben, what's it say? Boats arc man, Me
Speaker 1: and Brent have a I love it so much. Me
Speaker 1: and Brent have a twenty six foot sea arc boat
Speaker 1: with a three hundred horsepower Suzuki fully covered. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's just shy of Noah's Arc. And uh, we
Speaker 1: are we are going on a two hundred, two hundred
Speaker 1: plus mile expedition down the Mississippi River like our forefathers,
Speaker 1: Davy Crockett, Whole Collier. Just starting to list of names.
Speaker 1: They've been there, Twains, Daniel Boone, They've been there. And uh,
Speaker 1: We're going on a deer hunt, cat fishing trip, duck
Speaker 1: hunting trip on the Mississippi River. And at some point
Speaker 1: in the years to come, perhaps this will be people
Speaker 1: could see this through digital imagery.
Speaker 3: Be good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm looking forward to Are they up here now?
Speaker 1: They're at We're SEC. Yeah, they're in Monticello.
Speaker 3: Ar good folks.
Speaker 1: I was telling Steve Arnello about our Sea Arc boat
Speaker 1: and Steve was like, I have a Sea Arc boat
Speaker 1: and I said, well, they're from Arkansas, and uh yeah, Steve,
Speaker 1: Steve has a Sea Arc.
Speaker 6: You eat a lot of boat companies in Arkansas. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: what happens.
Speaker 1: These guys work for like Ranger, and they learned the
Speaker 1: business and then they moved down here and start their own.
Speaker 1: That might not be how all this works, but you
Speaker 1: see it in a lot in different areas. Yeah. A
Speaker 1: good friend of mine, a college friend of mine that's
Speaker 1: got the Express boat in Hot Springs in Ranger boats
Speaker 1: in that boat and there's probably one or two that
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting. This War Eagle made in Arkansas.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's one of the best duck boats there.
Speaker 3: Used to be Arc. Sea Arc is there. They're good stuff.
Speaker 3: Get a lot of good folks down there. I've been
Speaker 3: down there several times and I've gotten real close with
Speaker 3: the folks that are building our boat, and man they
Speaker 3: are they are absolutely focused on making boats and stuff.
Speaker 3: That we can use and a lot of folks can
Speaker 3: use out there on the big water.
Speaker 6: It's twenty six foot. That's you wouldn't much smaller, would you.
Speaker 1: Well, you wouldn't want much bigger really on for a
Speaker 1: like a pleasure craft, just because it would be too big.
Speaker 1: That's a big boat. Yeah, Yeah, that's a big boat.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's made for the Mississippi River. I
Speaker 1: mean that's what that am I right, Bren, Absolutely, I
Speaker 1: mean that that's a river boat.
Speaker 3: That's the Mississippi river boat.
Speaker 1: I mean that's longer than this room we're in. Your
Speaker 1: cousin has had a twenty three foot and he had
Speaker 1: plans to go down the Mississippi. I don't remember if
Speaker 1: he ever did it, but twenty three I think would
Speaker 1: be a minimum. Yeah, I mean he can get dangerous
Speaker 1: out there. The river's super low right now. The river
Speaker 1: that's the only bummer about it. For the next little
Speaker 1: wild River's gonna be really low, which I mean won't
Speaker 1: make any difference. It's big enough for us to get down.
Speaker 1: But Mississippi River she's going dry, pretty preacher man says
Speaker 1: the end of time, Mississippi River she's a going dry. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's the rest of the.
Speaker 3: Song, Hank, country Boy can't Survive.
Speaker 2: That was the class song for the senior class, right
Speaker 2: ahead of me.
Speaker 3: Is that right cool?
Speaker 1: Well, guys, thanks for coming. Good to see Ben, Dad, Misty.
Speaker 1: Great to see everyone.
Speaker 2: Good to see you play.
Speaker 1: Have a great week. Everybody's