1 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: My name is Clay nukelemb And. This is a production 2 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: of the bear Grease podcast called The bear Grease Render, 3 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: where we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the 4 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f 5 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: HF Gear, American Maid, purpose built hunting and fishing gear 6 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: that's designed to be as rugged as the place as 7 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: we explore. Welcome to the bear Grease Render, everybody. I've 8 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: got my wife, doctor Missy Nucomb here we're going to 9 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna start off things a little different today, Dad 10 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: with a kind of a sentimental song about the woods. 11 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: Usually we'd come in pretty hot and sing so Johnny 12 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: Cash or you know something. But this is a little 13 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: a little more laid back. 14 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: Have you ever wondered lonely through the woods? Everything there 15 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: phil just as it should, part of life there, You're 16 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 2: part of something good. Have you ever wondered lonely through 17 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 2: those woods? If you've never wondered lonely through the woods. 18 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: You never started into a starry sky lying on your 19 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: back and asking why, what's the purpose? 20 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: I wonder? 21 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: Who am I? You never stared into a starry sky? 22 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: Oo ah. 23 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: Ah? Have you ever started into a sorry suy. 24 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: Never been now walking in the snow, trying to. 25 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 4: Get back where you were before. 26 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: Always end up I'm knowing where to go. Have you 27 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: ever been out walking. 28 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: In the show? 29 00:02:55,360 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 4: Who you haven't been walking? You wouldn't know? 30 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: All right, all right, excellent, excellent. 31 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: We had Brent Reeves on the shaker. Brent, great to 32 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: see you. 33 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: That's ah. This needs to be identified as a wooden 34 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: egg full of lead shot. I think wooden egg full 35 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: of lead shot. 36 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: Great to see you, Brent, Thank you, Buddy to Brent's left, 37 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: Ben La grown on foods. Good to see you, Good 38 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: to see it, Ben, thanks for coming. Man on the Render, 39 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: we used to sing. I bet we used to sing. 40 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: There was a time when my idea for the Render 41 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: was to have a live band here every single no no, 42 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: I mean not just me. I was gonna try to 43 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: have a live band here every single Render to play 44 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: and I did you know, it just didn't happen. But 45 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: it's been a while since we sang. If you if 46 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: you're new to The Beargrease Render, this is the Burgers 47 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: podcast is documentary style podcast. The Beargrease Render is where 48 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: we gather around every other week and talk about the 49 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: actual bear Grease podcast. Early on the first year, we 50 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: played music probably every two or three times, not because 51 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: we think we're good, but because we like to have fun. 52 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: We like, as we said, you know, our kids. So 53 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: last night, my daughter, Missy, and I were practicing and 54 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: my daughter, who was in her room it's supposed to 55 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: be asleep, texted me and. 56 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 2: Said, uh, hey, y'all sound great. 57 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: She said, yeah, y'all sounds great and I and there 58 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: was a delay in the next text, and I was like, man, 59 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: that's really nice. I was actually encouraged. I was I 60 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: need a little encouragement from time to time with my music. 61 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: And then the next text was how long are y'all 62 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: going to be playing? And the next text said PTSD. 63 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's talking about you know. We started playing during 64 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: COVID and that song was one of the first songs 65 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: I ever learned to play on the banjo, and that 66 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: when Clay heard that song, he was like, I think 67 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: I can play the guitar, like it was so unimpressive. 68 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 2: He's like, I could do that too. 69 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: I forgot I could play guitar. 70 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 3: Y'all missed. The funniest thing I've said in years is 71 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 3: when I found this egg, I thought, man, can sit 72 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: on this. That's kind of like what he does. 73 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 5: Ain't it good? 74 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 3: Hats this out while y'all are playing. 75 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 5: I used to play spoons, like you know, it's two 76 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 5: separate spoons. That's like luxurious stuff right there. 77 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I kept waiting for you to do the old 78 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: Why how. 79 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: Are you a good spoon player? Ben trained spoon spoon players. 80 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 5: It's in my percussion repertoire. 81 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, hey, Ben used to play for the Arkansas 82 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: Razorbacks marching band. 83 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. That's why the percussion was coming 84 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: so easy to you. 85 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: Sometimes I feel like we should just go around and 86 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: say the most astonishing facts about ourselves and our achievements 87 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: that no one knows about. You know, it seems really 88 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: important in high school, some of the things you did 89 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: and hasn't mad. 90 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: Would you like to say? 91 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, doctor, weirdly know, I was thinking more 92 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 2: about Yeah, I'm trying to think of obscure facts likes. 93 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: To Brent's whole podcast is obscure facts about his life. 94 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: So Brent Raves is here, render boy, Brent Raeves And 95 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: what I laughed out loud for real, this is no 96 00:06:54,760 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: joke and there's there's big potential for bias in me 97 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: because you're my friend. I want you to succeed. You know, 98 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: This Country Life is on the bear Grease feet, so 99 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: there's like big, big question marks around whether my opinion 100 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: is legit. However, I'm gonna say it is because they're 101 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: just as big a biases about being critical about just 102 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: the work that we're doing. So like I'm like very 103 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: critical of you too, sure, And so I would feel 104 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: every morning. 105 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: Oh it's all the the phone ringing late Clayon. I like, well, 106 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: he's not asking me to go film him, so I 107 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 3: am in trouble. 108 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 109 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I feel like those two things balance out, 110 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: like my love of you and want you to succeed, 111 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: but also me scrutinizing your every word and uh, I 112 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: laugh out loud by myself almost every single time I 113 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: listened to This Country Life, I really do. I mean, 114 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: Brent is an astounding writer because he and I've had 115 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 1: You know, you could listen to some of Brent's stories 116 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: and be like, how could have all this have happened 117 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: to one person, which is a legitimate question. But I've 118 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: been around Brent enough to know to have been to 119 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: hear him tell a story that even I was a 120 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: part of, and it was like, well, geez, I wouldn't 121 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: have told it near that entertaining. So, I mean, I 122 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: think Brent. It might seem like Brent has had like 123 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: an exceptionally wild life. I think he's probably had a 124 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: more wildlife than most people. Yeah, but he's a really 125 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: really good storyteller and remembers detail and remembers stuff that 126 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: other people don't. So I'm paying you a big compliment, 127 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: but I'm also drawing it. I'm also trying to make 128 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: sense of it. But no, you're your your last one 129 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: about three stories that didn't fit. Yeah, So the ethical 130 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: qualms that I wanted to bring up was cursing in church. 131 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: Did y'all hear that? 132 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 5: That's the funniest stories? 133 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Hunter, your son hearing his father used foul language. 134 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: Three days before that? I mean, you would think of 135 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: all the things that happened to a little fella in 136 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: three days. I mean, it's everything he looks at in 137 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: every direction. It's something new, you know. I mean, because 138 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 3: he's just learning to talk and learning to hear and 139 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: learn to pay attention to things that's going around him, 140 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: you know, And of all the things of all the 141 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 3: things that happened in that span of time, that was 142 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 3: the one thing he keyed on, and in the one 143 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 3: place he remembered that he had a city wide audience. 144 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: We were being broadcast on the radio that day. The 145 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 3: church service was. 146 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, and then uh and then your buddy who 147 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: shot Jesus. 148 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, man. I have told that story so many times, 149 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: and it is it's it always starts out some you know. 150 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 3: It's like you do. Sometimes you'll say, Brent, tell me 151 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: a story, and I'm like, I ain't got one, you know, 152 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 3: it's just things happened, and and that reminded me of something. 153 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 3: You know, we're riding down the road. That's when the 154 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 3: best stories come out, when we're doing something else and 155 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh gosh, I just saw a redbird. That 156 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: reminds me of something. But if somebody points a pistol 157 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: at me, it says, tell me a story. I'm like, okay, 158 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 3: I got a buddy that shot Jesus. One time, I 159 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 3: can tell you that story. 160 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: So it was a misfire, like he was. He didn't mean. 161 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 3: He didn't, Yes, exactly, he didn't. He thought he had 162 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: unloaded his gun. There's lots of story, lots of lessons 163 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 3: in that. Yeah, he wasn't he wasn't upset thinking he 164 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: had shot Jesus. He had shot his pistol in his house. Yeah, yeah, 165 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 3: a loaded firearm that he thought was unloaded. 166 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: Now was he being funny when he No, he was 167 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: very distraught. But why did he say I'm going to hell? 168 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: He took it. It was so a big burden on him. Now, 169 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 3: this guy had just gone to work as a police officer. 170 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: He hadn't gone to the academy yet, so he had 171 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 3: a big burden. And in the state of Arkansas, I'm 172 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: not sure that rookies now are if it's the same 173 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: way or not. But you when we went to work, 174 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 3: you had a year from the time you were hired 175 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 3: by a department and be under a field training officer, 176 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 3: and then within that year span, sometime during that year, 177 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 3: you had to go to the academy and pass that 178 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 3: to go, you know, back to work on the street 179 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 3: and be a certified police officer. So he hadn't done 180 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: that yet. So everything that he's learning he's learning from 181 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: a you know, the officers above him. And he was 182 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 3: getting ready to go. 183 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: To work that night, and he's quick drawn, Yeah, revolved. 184 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: Was he pulling the trigger? 185 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: Well? 186 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: Apparently so? 187 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, but but it was if it was 188 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: like if you I've got a story, But if a revolver, 189 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: if you feel like it's unloaded and it's a double action, 190 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: you pull the trigger, the hammer drops back and then fires. 191 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 3: Correct. 192 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: So I mean he must have been doing that. 193 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely it was. 194 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let me ask you a question. Okay, And 195 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: if you have any other comments on this country life, 196 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: now's now's the time. Have you ever accidentally discharged the firearm? 197 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 3: No? 198 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: Never, not once? Never? 199 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: I take that back, Yes, I have turkey hunting. 200 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: Okay, yep, see I knew it. What happened me? 201 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: And do you feel like you're being unfairly interrogated right now? 202 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 3: No? Okay, because I could lie just a Tuesday. 203 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: I'm just watching the facial expressions here, trying to figure 204 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: out what clays. 205 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: I could have. I could have lied and said no, 206 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: but I do recall all the time. Uh, And it 207 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 3: was a faulty. It was a brown and pump shotgun 208 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 3: had a broken safety. Me and another friend of mine 209 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: had left going turkey hunting in the afternoon. We were 210 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 3: walking down this road and he said you better. We 211 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 3: need to load up now because we as soon as 212 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: we step off in the woods, we got to sit down. Right, 213 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 3: there's a turkey. We knew where the turkeys at. So 214 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: when I'm standing, I've got my barrel away from everybody, 215 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: I went in, threw one in the magazine, in the 216 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: from the magazine into the barrel, and as soon as 217 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 3: it slide hit home, bam, it went off. Really yeah, 218 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 3: and that's with my That wasn't my finger touching the 219 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 3: trigger and I didn't have a finger in the housing there. Wow, 220 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: that's it went off? Yeah, absolutely, did Ben? 221 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: Have you ever shot a firearm intentionally? 222 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 5: No? 223 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 6: I haven't, Dad, I shot holding my gris. 224 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: You did, Yeah, I vaguely remember that. It was after 225 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: I was you know, it was in an area where 226 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: that peg board is and the backside of it's all rock, 227 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: you know on the outside. Uh huh, and uh. It 228 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: was pretty revealing. You know how dangerous it is to 229 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: play with firearms. 230 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 6: You know what were you doing? I was just cleaning 231 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 6: my gun or something. 232 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. 233 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 6: It was probably at three fifties and I couldn't have 234 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 6: been a revolver. 235 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: I don't know what it was, but I. 236 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: So you intentionally pulled the trigger. You just didn't think 237 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: it was loaded. Yeah, you just thought you had cocked it. 238 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: And they're just gonna kind of yeah. Yeah, pretty stupid. 239 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: Pull the trigger. Pull the trigger, man, Miss nukemb Have 240 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: you ever fired a gun on accident? 241 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: I have a story about a bow and arrow. Okay, 242 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: So when when we were all little, my brothers left 243 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: my two middle so I had three older brothers, and 244 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: then me and my parents left the two middle brothers 245 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: alone for the first time. And the oldest brother was 246 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: kind of law and order and he kept everything everything 247 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: going well. I remember as we were pulling off, all 248 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: of us felt a little bit nervous about the two 249 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: middle brothers being home alone. I was the youngest sister, 250 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 2: and I still knew this isn't a good idea. And 251 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: as we pulled. As we pull out, my dad yells 252 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: out the window, hey, don't play with bb guns while 253 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: I'm gone. Like we were just they were just you 254 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: could tell now as a parent, I know my parents 255 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: were just thinking through all the things they could do 256 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: to hurt themselves. So my brothers went back to their 257 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: bedroom and got a bow and arrow. Now it wasn't 258 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: like a professional bow and arrow. We weren't bow hunters 259 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: or anything. I don't even know what kind it was, 260 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: but apparently it had a an arrow that could go 261 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: through a boot, through a leather boot. We learned that 262 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: because my second oldest brother shot my brother right above 263 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: me in the foot with this arrow while we were gone. 264 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: And when we pull up, we just see being like 265 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: writhing in pain on the ground outside, Randy looking very 266 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: scared to see my dad pull. 267 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: You know. 268 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: They they were trying to get the boot off, but 269 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: it was I mean, it was in his skin, and 270 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: and so they were they were freaking out. And after 271 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: that I decided to never mess with with anything. And 272 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: so I was a good sister and always learned from 273 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: my brother's mistakes. And so no, I have never not 274 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: that I've. 275 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: Ever discharged the fire ate my compliments to him for 276 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: not shooting Bob. 277 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 278 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were just trying to keep you real. 279 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: Where are you going with this? 280 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: Well? Have you I've got a story one time, one time, 281 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: I remember Misty called me when I was away and 282 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: she she said, something's going on in the house. It 283 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: was late at night. Do you remember this? 284 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 4: Oh? 285 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: I remember? 286 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: And it was real, It was real scary. She thought 287 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: somebody was in our house and I wasn't there, and 288 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: and I don't remember the details at all, so I 289 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: won't elaborate on them. I just remember telling her, it's 290 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: totally fine if you just want to take that pistol 291 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: and just fire off around, just aim it right through 292 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: the roof, just shoot. I told her to do that, 293 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: and she didn't, and it ended up like being you 294 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: know nothing. Do you remember that? 295 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: I vaguely I remember. 296 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: I remember thinking what it would be. I put the 297 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: roof on my house when we built it, and I 298 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: remember thinking it won't be too hard. 299 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: I very clearly remember, but that's not I don't remember it. 300 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: I missed and missed the part about the roof. I 301 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: remember you telling me just get the pistol and just 302 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 2: if anybody's in the house, just shoot. And I said, 303 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: what if I miss? And we just built the house. 304 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: And that was to shoot somebody. 305 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: Right, You weren't, but that's how I heard it. I 306 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 2: was like, miss, and you said, hey, just just you 307 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 2: told me just it's okay if you fire a bunch 308 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 2: of holes in the in the sheet rock, and I 309 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: just remember thinking it was really hard to put up. 310 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, we take we take intruders pretty serious 311 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: around our place. Real on the door text first come over, 312 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: No Dad, I've told you this story. I'd be perhaps 313 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: you won't remember the details of it. But I got 314 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: a Ruger forty four magnum nine inch barrel super Red 315 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: Hawk for graduation. Graduation, a big, big pistol. I was 316 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: doing some hog hunting and I was gonna deer hunt 317 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: with it. And one day I was setting out on 318 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: public land hog hunting and just board sitting on a 319 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: log and it's a double action revolver and I was playing. 320 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: I was fiddling with the double action double Do you 321 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: know what a double action is, Misty. It's a revolver. 322 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: So you cocked the hammer, but if you but well, 323 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: if you pull the trigger, the gun goes off. 324 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 3: It way you talk down to the most highly educated person. 325 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: I like that. 326 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: That's my role in this, well. 327 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: A double action because I was I was in the 328 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: hammer with my thumb click click, and pulling the trigger 329 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: but having my thumb on the trigger and letting it 330 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: down softly, just kind of getting a feel for the trigger. 331 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: And I had just done it so much I just 332 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: kind of got into like a comatose state. And I 333 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 1: had that barrel laid across my leg just like this 334 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: right here. 335 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 6: And uh. 336 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: And at one point I didn't put my thumb on 337 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: the trigger and I just pulled the trigger and it 338 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: just forty four mag I mean it was like a 339 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: major thing, like it was. Yeah, and I probably never 340 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: I learned a lot from that. It left black marks 341 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: on my pants. 342 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 3: Sure on both ends. 343 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: Do you remember that that? No, I don't you know. 344 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: I didn't tell you this story. 345 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 2: Never made it to my ears. 346 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: I didn't tell you for a long time. I did 347 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: tell you that eventually. 348 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I feel like this is sweet. 349 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 5: Remember he has drank that out of his mind. 350 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: It was not good, not good at all. How old 351 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: were you I would have been like in high school 352 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: that gun. Yeah, So firearm safety big theme in this 353 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: country life. Okay, the other the other. 354 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 3: Hey, I got a call one time when I was 355 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: the deputy share here's a law enforcement story. Got a 356 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: call one time this lady said, somebody shot my house. 357 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 3: And so, man, we're beating feet over there. We'll see 358 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 3: what's going on. And we go into this lady. She 359 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 3: lives in a mobile home in the middle of nowhere 360 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 3: and she was in the laundry room ironing and the 361 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 3: deep freezes in there, and laying on top of the 362 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 3: deep freeze is a forty five round that's made a 363 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 3: dent in the deep freeze. But it came straight down 364 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 3: through the roof. Somebody shot the gun up in the 365 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 3: air and he came came through the roof, hit the 366 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 3: deep freeze right beside where she was ironing. 367 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: Really yeah, just the bullets laying there, just the bullet. Yeah, 368 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 1: So it had lost enough velocity that it probably wouldn't 369 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: have killed somebody. 370 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 3: It would have hurt. Yeah. I mean it came through 371 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 3: and it made a big dent in that deep freeze. 372 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 3: It hit her on the top of the head. 373 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: This is this is like the side of the Unsolved 374 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: Mysteries where like eventually comes out like there's somebody listening 375 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: to this right now down around Warren, Arkansas. What county 376 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: was it, County? Union County, Arkansas. That's going, man, I 377 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: let one fly straight up in the air. 378 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 379 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: I've always felt like if you if you shot like 380 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: because like squirrel hunting, you're shooting twenty two rounds in 381 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: the air, and if you miss, like twenty two rounds 382 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: just going in the air. I've always felt like they 383 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: would lose enough velocity that it would be like dropping 384 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: a twenty two round like out of an airplane, like 385 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: it would just hit on the ground. Do you think 386 00:21:59,200 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: that's true. 387 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 3: I don't think any of that's even close. 388 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: You remember me telling the story about shooting the game 389 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: warden's house. That's one story that it's not quite as 390 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: dramatic as that introduction. But whoa, I've got a story. 391 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: I told you you got to want you hear it. 392 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 3: You'll remember it. 393 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: But uh the game warden lived right next door to me, 394 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 1: and his house burned. He moved mobile Homi in and 395 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: I was shooting my bow in the backyard and I 396 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: missed my target and it hit hit a rock and 397 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: flew right in the back of his and uh so 398 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: I went and knocked on his door, and I said, man, 399 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: I got some bad news for you. He was really 400 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: nice about it. 401 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,239 Speaker 3: So anyway, I appreciated that. 402 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: Robert Ball really nice guy. And you just pulled the 403 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: air out, Yeah, did he do you have to repair it? 404 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 6: No, it was a little low, and you know, you 405 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 6: didn't notice it much. 406 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: His wife we had to call the amulus first wife, 407 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: not really so if you own somewhere around Hot Springs, Arkansas, 408 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: a nineteen sixty four double wide with a small arrow hole, 409 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: and it may have been that mobile. 410 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 3: That's right. 411 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: Uh, that's funny. That's funny. Okay. The other thing I 412 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: listened to the I got caught up on this country 413 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: life this week, and so your your story of chasing 414 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: the school bus in the truck? 415 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 3: How about that? 416 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: I mean, that's crazy, Brent. You must have been a 417 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: wild kid. 418 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 3: Man. I just have wild ideas and it didn't take 419 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 3: me long. 420 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: I'm not afraid that your dad would have. 421 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 3: I wasn't scared of nothing. 422 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: Did your dad not? 423 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 3: I told you I've been on h Spencer's Meat Eater 424 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 3: Trivia twice, and when I sit out in that chair, 425 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 3: I know I'm fixing to win. I have got a 426 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 3: total of four questions right out of twenty of the 427 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 3: two times I've been on there. 428 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: That's the usual amount of undeserved confidence. 429 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 3: But when I sit down there, I think, man, I 430 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 3: am fixed to kick everybody's butt in't here. I just 431 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 3: I never walked up to the plate. I didn't think 432 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 3: I wasn't going to hit a home run. I hit 433 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 3: won and little I had no reason to think that. 434 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 3: But I don't lack for self confidence. 435 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: But when you were nine years old taking your dad's 436 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: truck and chasing the school bus. 437 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 3: The only thing I could think of was me passing 438 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 3: that school bus and throwing them the deuces as I 439 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 3: went by, and barely looking over the steering wheel. 440 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: Wow, we don't my dream of mine. And I'm going 441 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: to cast this out there and this will hopefully get 442 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: back to who I wanted to get back to. I 443 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: want to have Tim Reeves on this podcast. 444 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 3: Ah, he's a good He's a better storyteller than I 445 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: ever will. 446 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: Will he do it? 447 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 3: Nope? 448 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, will Tim eventually to the Bear Grease Render podcast. 449 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: We want to embarrass you and just Isn's brother all 450 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: these stories. 451 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 2: But you just yeah, you just talked about his dad, 452 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: just making sure everybody knows it's brother and father. 453 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he will come. 454 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: He's the best storyteller in the world. 455 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: And we get like, you know, I don't want to 456 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: even tell. I don't want to even talk. I just wanted 457 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: to sit there. 458 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 3: When we would sit around at the duck camp and talk, 459 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 3: he was just spitting out one story after another. My 460 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 3: buddy that taught me how to that started me in 461 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 3: in outdoor video would grab a camera and set it up, 462 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: and Tim was like he forgot how to talk. He 463 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 3: had a stroke or something. He's just like he just 464 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 3: freezes up. Man. 465 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not what I believe about Tim. Tim 466 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: would be great. Tim, You're invited, Please come there you go. 467 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: Hey, let me tell you my favorite story from this 468 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: country life lately. Brin's retirement story. 469 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was. 470 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 4: That was. 471 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 2: Shep is the one that told me to listen to it, really, 472 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 2: Shep new Coombe did. Yeah, he listened to it. He 473 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 2: and Clay were on the way to ball practice and 474 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 2: they didn't finish it. He went to ball practice, he 475 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: came out and he said, Dad, can we can we 476 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 2: finish up that podcast? And so they came in and 477 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 2: they said, you should really listen. Listen to this one. 478 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 2: Brent's going to retire. I guess did you read you 479 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 2: recorded it before you retired, like the week before you retired, 480 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 2: so you weren't retired anyway. So I listened to it 481 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 2: that day and yeah, that was. It was a very 482 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: touching Brent. 483 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 6: That was Is that where he went over the fence? 484 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 5: Yep? 485 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would get the lady that was really good. 486 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: That was really good. Man. 487 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 6: I tell you what, I tell you what I would 488 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 6: have done. I would have called in sick. 489 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 3: Somebody had to go in there. 490 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 2: How's it feel to be U It's uh. 491 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: It's kind of surreal. Yeah, you know, that's a big 492 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 3: responsibility that I carried for a long time, thirty two years, 493 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 3: and it feels good. It's uh, it's strange though, it's 494 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 3: it's just a little weird, you know. And I told, 495 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 3: I told Alexis, you know, Bailey, who's eleven, she's so 496 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 3: much younger than my other two children, Amy and Hunter, 497 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 3: who they were aware of the things that I was 498 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 3: doing and the stuff I was going through, and and uh, 499 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: it was hard. And uh, I told Alexis said, I 500 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 3: don't want Bailey to ever even know anything about that 501 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 3: stuff that I used to do. And she says, I 502 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 3: think that's wrong. She needs to know about her daddy did, 503 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 3: so when she gets older, you know, maybe maybe she 504 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 3: can learn some of that kind of stuff. But she's 505 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 3: probably right. She probably doesn't need to know eventually, because 506 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 3: it gets kind of an excuse of why I'm so crazy. 507 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's been a lot of it's been pretty 508 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 3: pretty wild. 509 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, well cool, No, I'm I love it. 510 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 3: I love it very much. 511 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Ben, what you got there on the floor is 512 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: the deer. Let me see that thing. I hadn't even 513 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: touched it. He's got a good mass, So Ben, Ben 514 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: killed the biggest buck like you've ever killed? 515 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 5: Yep, yep. On September twenty third, twenty twenty three. 516 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: Well open, there's more impressive than what I saw on 517 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: video or what the photo I saw. Just the mass. Yeah, 518 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: like that that was. You know, you can tell a lot. 519 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: You can't. You can't judge a white tail entirely based 520 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: upon mass, but you can tell quite a bit about 521 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: their age, just maturity level. Maybe not fine tune in it, 522 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: but I mean that's for sure a four and a 523 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: half year old plus deer for around here. Yeah, it's 524 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: it's a it's a ten point. 525 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 3: Don't don't you know how much you score? If your score? 526 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: No, I hadn't scored it. I mean, yeah, are you 527 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: going to score it today? 528 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 4: Uh? 529 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 5: I don't know, might as well you could. 530 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: You always be disappointed. 531 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 5: That's kind of where I've been, is like I don't 532 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 5: want to taint my perspective. 533 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: Scores, you know. So back in the day. I mean 534 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: back when this American hunting television started in the in 535 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: the in the nineties, late eighties. Man, if you saw 536 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: the cover of a VHS tape at Walmart that said 537 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: one hundred and forty inch buck by bo, you were 538 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: just like, holy cow, I want to see that one 539 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: fifty for sure they would be like man, I mean, 540 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: and those were big numbers. I don't really understand what's happened. 541 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: There are more one forties, one fifties and bigger deer, 542 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: but more people have cameras, more people are filming, and 543 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: in the outdoor industry, there's just a lot more one 544 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty seventy eighty ninety two hundred inch deer 545 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: being killed on film. But a one hundred and forty 546 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: inch buck is still just as hard to kill and 547 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: still just as elusive. Like in my if my in 548 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: my hunting locally, like I hunt one hundred and forty 549 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: inch deer about once every eight years, just the truth, 550 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: I mean, And I have hunted some good deer in 551 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: the last several years. But but I say that, to 552 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: say a deer like that, I wouldn't even score because 553 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: it won't it probably won't. It won't score one forty, 554 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: so it might as well just just say you think 555 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: it's one sixty. Yeah, I would just say probably it's 556 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: probably in the ballpark of one sixty. 557 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 5: But it was the story that meant so much to 558 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 5: me and just how all the stars aligned. Yeah, well 559 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 5: all that's well, even just this place I'm hunting is 560 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 5: some private land that I was I've been picking up 561 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 5: the phone and writing letters, trying hard to find a 562 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 5: place to for me and my little girls to hunt. 563 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 5: It was like winning the lottery, Like I couldn't believe 564 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 5: that they called me after getting my letter. The summer, 565 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 5: I was scouting and put cameras up, and this is 566 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 5: one of the first bucks on camera, really, and I 567 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 5: and I just thought, and he was consistent, I mean 568 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 5: almost daily, and it was just like is this too 569 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 5: good to be true? Like I write this letter, I'm 570 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 5: hunting this land, this does the first buck I see. 571 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 5: I talked to Jessica and my wife, and I was like, listen, 572 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 5: he's so consistent. If I stay out there all day 573 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 5: on opening day, like he will die. There's no way 574 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna see him. I stay all day. So 575 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 5: I get out there opening day and it's like ninety degrees. 576 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 5: I don't know if you remember how hot it was. 577 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 5: It was so hot, and I stay, I saw doze 578 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,959 Speaker 5: just all day. I went came back out around four 579 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 5: o'clock and thinking like, man, I can't believe this buck 580 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 5: has it come. Just like so many of those hunts, 581 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 5: it was right at dusk that these four to doho 582 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 5: come out. And they come up and all of a sudden, 583 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 5: it's like they just like I had a neon flashing 584 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 5: light on me, and they just got so nervous and 585 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 5: they all were working me and stomping their feet and 586 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 5: all that jazz for probably about twenty minutes. Oh really, 587 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 5: And I was just so nervous. I was like these 588 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 5: I was like, I really hope the buck doesn't come 589 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 5: out right now when these dough are about to sure enough, 590 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,479 Speaker 5: I see three bucks coming from the thicket. And let 591 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 5: me tell you this. I know where this buck sleeps, 592 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 5: I know where he eats. I mean, I know his 593 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 5: schedule and where this guy's at. He comes up from 594 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 5: the thicket and I'm just thinking, golly, while he's dough 595 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 5: on me and you. 596 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 3: Can see him come. 597 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 5: He's coming, He's coming, and he the doe start walking 598 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 5: away they were spooked, like, not to the point of running, 599 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 5: but they're just like, I don't like this guy. And 600 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 5: he comes in to feed while she's still kind of 601 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 5: spooked at me, and I just got nervous, like I 602 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 5: didn't want to wait around too long. And it was dusk, 603 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 5: and so he was. He was slightly quartered a quarter 604 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 5: toward me, you know, not preferable. But I knew I 605 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 5: just I needed to take a shot. Well, I shot, 606 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 5: and I did hit him. I knew I hit him, 607 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 5: but the way he behaved, I thought, I don't know 608 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 5: if I hit him. 609 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 3: Real great. 610 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 5: He ran twenty yards and looked around with his little 611 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 5: buddies beside him, and then he just turned up the 612 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,959 Speaker 5: this mountain that I'm on and he just ran one 613 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 5: hundred yards and I watched him run up the pill 614 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 5: uphill pill I mean sprinted. I thought, oh no. Well, 615 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 5: eight minutes later I hear him crash. Well, I got 616 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 5: down and check my arrow and it was gut shot 617 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 5: and I was like, golly. To make things crazier with 618 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 5: it not only getting dark, is we've got a massive 619 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 5: thunderstorm coming in in about thirty minutes. And me and 620 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 5: my daughter, my oldest daughter, go out. I mean just 621 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 5: ride at dawn and we searched high and low that 622 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 5: area where he was at. We couldn't find blood, We 623 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 5: couldn't find anything, and it had. 624 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: Poor Yeah, was gone right. 625 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 5: We searched for two hours up on that mountain and 626 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 5: then I went down to the thicket where I know 627 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 5: he beds. I thought that's not where he goes, and 628 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 5: there'd be water flowing. Looked around a bit and I 629 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 5: knew that'd be like a need on a haystack. And 630 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 5: my friend Matt Taylor, he knows the guy with a dog, 631 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 5: so he come out. He was actually confident about the rain. 632 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 5: He said that when the deer dying, that there's a 633 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 5: pharrenomb that released through their hoof, and the rain actually 634 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 5: kind of spreads it out a bit. And he said 635 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 5: his dog's tracked after rain all the time. I was like, okay, 636 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 5: that's yeah exactly. Anyway, he got. 637 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: Some comments on that here. 638 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 639 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, he gets out there and the dog she picked up. 640 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 5: She picked up his trail from where I shot all 641 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 5: the way up the mountain, and then she got real confused, 642 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 5: and he said it's it's probably because we were walking 643 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 5: around so much. So they say, I was like, that's great, excuse. Well, 644 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 5: he stayed out there. We searched for hours, We worked 645 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 5: that mountain, and then I convinced him to go down 646 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 5: to the thicket. We tried the thicket and uh couldn't 647 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 5: find him, and I was pretty devastated. It was just like, 648 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 5: I don't know what what to do next. You know, 649 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 5: it meets gone and this there's just this thicket is bad. 650 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 3: It's so thick. 651 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 5: Well, anyway, I slept on it. We'll got Monday morning. 652 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 5: I said, I'm gonna take a day off work and 653 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go search that thicket, every inch of it. 654 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 5: He's got to be there, he's he's got to be dead. 655 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 5: He's got to be on this eighty acres that I'm hunting. 656 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 5: So I literally get to that thicket and zig zag 657 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 5: it in a perfect systematic way. I'll show you my 658 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 5: on X trail later, Brent and Gary of where I was. 659 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask if you used on X to 660 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: I'll show you. It'll make a real grid. 661 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 5: I mean it was crazy. Yeah, But anyway, it's now 662 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 5: like almost evening and I thought, you know what, I'm 663 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 5: gonna go walk to the total opposite end of the property. 664 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 5: I'm gonna make a big circle. I'll go over the 665 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 5: mountain again, and then I'll go to this fence line 666 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 5: I know of, And this fence line it splits the 667 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 5: woods up where this farmer lets his cattle sometimes go, 668 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 5: and so it's real wide open woods. And then on 669 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 5: my left will be my thick woods that I think 670 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 5: he's in. Well, on those rare looks to the right, 671 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 5: about one hundred and fifty yards, I see a giant 672 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 5: vulture and I thought, I think I just spook that vulture, 673 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 5: and so I turned started walking in another one. I 674 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 5: was like, they're eating something big. I start running and 675 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 5: there's another vulture, and sure enough that was him. Whoa 676 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 5: and he he ran from where I shot about four 677 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty yards. Based on the route he took 678 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 5: by the crow flies, it was two fifty three hundred 679 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 5: yards right, and so that's where I got him. It's 680 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 5: I it was a story of perseverance because I'm the 681 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 5: kind of person that's like, I don't like taking note 682 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 5: for an answer, And when I woke up Monday, I 683 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 5: was like, why do I really need to spend a 684 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 5: day doing that? It's like, that's just what I've got 685 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 5: to do. I know he's there. 686 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: You know what. The thing about a gut shot animal 687 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: is that that's a mortal wound, so that that animal 688 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: is gonna be gonna be dead. 689 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 3: You know. 690 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a bummer. You couldn't couldn't find it. 691 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 5: But yeah, because he had a lot of meat, it 692 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 5: was it was huge. Yeah, definitely the biggest here. 693 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 1: I've talked to a guy. I've talked to two people 694 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: and the last couple of weeks that have used drones 695 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: to recover deer. 696 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 697 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 1: It was actually a guy in Missouri that had shot 698 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: a deer and he told me and I said, and 699 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: he talked to me about what happened, and it was like, 700 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: how'd you find it? And he said, well, I had 701 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: trouble finding it. He used a drone. And I actually 702 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: was like, in the back of my mind was wondering 703 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: if that was legal. Yeah, and because you can't use 704 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:30,720 Speaker 1: drones for hunting, but it's totally one hundred percent legal 705 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: in Missouri. I don't know every state, but they're actually companies. 706 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: They are people that are licensed drone operators that have businesses. 707 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: And he called a you know, like drone operator company 708 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: to come and they charged like four hundred dollars just 709 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: to show up and one hundred dollars if they find 710 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 1: the deer. I read on their Facebook page. So he 711 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: paid them five hundred bucks and they found that deer 712 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 1: just like that. It really his deer had run nine 713 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards from where he'd shot. Recovery really quickly. 714 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 5: This is my on X route. That that's my ladder stand. 715 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 5: That's that thicket, and he was way over here. 716 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 3: Nice, that's pretty nowhere nowhere. 717 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 5: Near and and that that all that blue is that thicket. 718 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 6: Oh we care how you covered it. 719 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something here, and it's it's everybody knows 720 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: how pro I am of hound hunters and hounds love hounds, 721 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: grew up running dogs. I'm gonna throw this out there 722 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: for the the dog tracking community. 723 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 3: Two. 724 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know just a charge. I've rarely I 725 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 1: I when people tell me they're gonna call a dog, 726 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm just like, good luck it it I And it's 727 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 1: not the dog's fault. It's not the handler's fault. 728 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 3: And uh. 729 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 1: And and if some of my friends that have dogs 730 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: and have attracted ear for me, hear this, brothers know 731 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: that I love you every dog handler. I know is 732 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: training a pup? Was your guy training a pup? 733 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 3: No? 734 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: Are you sure? Well not with us, but it was 735 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 1: a younger dog that he hadn't run or something. 736 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 5: Well, no, he it was a veteran dog. He told me. 737 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 5: He told me a story that's like identical circumstance. 738 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 1: But everybody, I'm always going to training and uh and 739 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 1: then uh and then they want you to get out 740 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: and see. This is where the story gets. This is 741 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 1: where it's tough. You call a dog guy and he's like, well, 742 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 1: stop looking, and you got to stop looking and wait 743 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 1: till he gets there. And that's where I think most 744 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,240 Speaker 1: people mess up because you should have just kept looking. 745 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: Do you see what I'm saying? I mean anyway, so 746 00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 1: I've got a little bit of a qualm with dog 747 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 1: dog trailing, not that there's anything wrong with it, but. 748 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 2: Just Britain and I am very nervous. 749 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: I mean, I love them, I love love I know 750 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: lots of good dog trailing guys, but I just I 751 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: just haven't seen them. Yeah, and yeah, I've used them before. 752 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: I've used them before. 753 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 5: But yeah, I think what you're trying to say is 754 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 5: it's not like the. 755 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 1: Perfect it's not. It's not. I'm not. Yeah, that's the 756 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: good thing. 757 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 5: I got my hopes of I got my hopes way 758 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 5: too high. 759 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. Most if you've never been around the recovery, and 760 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: people are gonna right me and they're gonna be upset 761 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: with me. I'm just telling you, I've hunted my whole life. 762 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: And when they say you're calling the dog, you're in trouble. 763 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 1: It's what you should do. You know, what do you do? 764 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 765 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 3: I know, here's what you should say. Practice shooting better. 766 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, amen, Yeah, put the dog trailers out of business, 767 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 3: make good shots. Yeah. 768 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 2: Well, and I think too if if you're referring to people, 769 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 2: we'll call it a dog almost as a last resort. 770 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 2: And it is causation or correlation, you know, like these 771 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 2: things are correlating, but the dog doesn't. But the deer 772 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 2: is pretty good and lost. Something's wrong. Yes, that's people 773 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 2: dogs in bad circumstances. 774 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: Exactly, That's exactly PhD. 775 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 3: Right. 776 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just not a guaranteed thing. It's just not 777 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,399 Speaker 1: a guarantee. You walk and now you want a dog 778 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: to find it. Yeah, and he's going to end up 779 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: at Walmart and the grocery section. 780 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 2: I'm kind of mad at the hunters and I'm so 781 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 2: pro dog right now that I'm kinda mad. 782 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,240 Speaker 5: No, I mean my father gutshot. It wasn't his, that's true. 783 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, uh, brand, what was your favorite deer story 784 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,280 Speaker 1: of this one? This episode? 785 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 3: K C story was good and I've heard him tell 786 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 3: that one before. You know that that was good. 787 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: Uh And when rattled that buck in you can watch 788 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: that on their YouTube channel. Yeah, it's a good and 789 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: saw the med Eater YouTube channel. 790 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 3: It's it's a good it's a good story and he 791 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 3: tells it so well. I mean, he's very enthusiastic about it. 792 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 3: But my as far as my absolute one hundred percent favorite, 793 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,479 Speaker 3: I like yours was great. Come on, I really liked that. 794 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 3: That was a good story. 795 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: Killing the deer in the coyoke. 796 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 3: And the deer was good. 797 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 5: Which one is it? 798 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: It's which it's that double white throat patch up there right? 799 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, that is pretty in it. 800 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 3: That's uh. That was a good. 801 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 1: Story, better than mister Henry's story. 802 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 3: Mister Henry is great, and I don't know that I 803 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 3: could pick a favorite of him because there's there was 804 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 3: a lot of differences in him. You know and that 805 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 3: even the dog hunting story, you know, yeah, I identify 806 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 3: that we used to have dogs, running dogs and deer dogs, 807 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 3: but we didn't have walkers. We had beagles. I was 808 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 3: telling somebody that other day about there was like, man, 809 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 3: you know them walker dogs or throat pushing those dear 810 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 3: bodyes so fast. You know, it's like a quick drawl. 811 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 3: You know, it's like a shooting gallery out there. And 812 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 3: I was like, man, we had beagles and we sat 813 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 3: on the I remember sitting on the stand one time. 814 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 3: These beagles. Can hear them coming out there and they 815 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 3: sound like, you know, miniature hound dogs. And they was 816 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 3: and they had logged in this in this place where 817 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 3: I was. Where I was, we were hunting the year before, 818 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 3: the winter before, so there was and it had been wet, 819 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 3: so there was some deep skinner ruts in there, and 820 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,959 Speaker 3: you could hear you could hear them, the beagles coming, 821 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 3: but they was oh oh, And then you hear them. 822 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 1: No going down, And I thought, what the world is that? 823 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 3: And I got to look it out there and I 824 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 3: could see like a hundred yards you can see them 825 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 3: all together coming across the top of the ground and 826 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 3: put the disappeared barely. 827 00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,760 Speaker 5: That's great falling in the sky. 828 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 3: But anything with dogs, man, you know, I'm am about that. 829 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 3: But mister Henry, mister Henry, is that guy's a legend. 830 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,399 Speaker 3: I'm surprised I hadn't already heard about him. 831 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, But then which one stood out to you? 832 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 3: Well? 833 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 5: The dog one was my favorite. And I'll tell you yeah, 834 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 5: because saw my granddad deer hunted in the nineteen thirties 835 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 5: and forties on horseback when there's hardly any deer in Arkansas, 836 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 5: and that was the way they hunted. And so I've 837 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 5: just grown up hearing those legends. And then that's how 838 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 5: my dad started out hunting too, and so I've never 839 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 5: got to experience that. So when I hear those stories 840 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 5: and relate them to what I hear my granddad talking 841 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 5: about growing up, it's it's like it helps me experience that. 842 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 5: And when they talked about killing those three bucks, yeah, 843 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 5: it's like I could just feel like how epic that 844 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 5: would have been. How the camaraderie, Like it's like, wow, 845 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 5: like all these guys bringing all these I mean, I 846 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 5: had to have been just such a huge day for 847 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 5: all of them. Yeah, involved, So I really enjoyed that 848 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 5: story of all of them were good. 849 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 3: There were so many unwritten rules about that too. You like, 850 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 3: the camp next door had dogs, and they run their 851 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,399 Speaker 3: dogs run a deer in front of us, And if 852 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,399 Speaker 3: we killed a dog or killed a deer in front 853 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 3: of their dogs, we gave them half the deer. I 854 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,240 Speaker 3: was just might as like one of the eleventh Commandment. 855 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 3: Everybody did that. Lots of stuff like that, and they 856 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 3: would just make for good neighbors. 857 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Dad, which one stood out to you? 858 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 3: Well? 859 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 1: Obviously I liked yours the best, but if I hadn't 860 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: raised you, I would probably you know, I liked the 861 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: two hundred inch buck because it's so unusual. I mean, 862 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: that's just like a freak story. I mean, how many 863 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 1: guys in America has killed a two hundred inch buck? Yeah, so, 864 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's in a category all by itself. 865 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 1: But mister Henry, mister Henry smokes. I saw that picture 866 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,399 Speaker 1: of his room, Yeah, that I've never seen a room 867 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:04,320 Speaker 1: like that before. 868 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 3: Yeah. 869 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's killed more bucks than I've ever 870 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: even thought about. Yeah, and uh, you know for him 871 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 1: to still be going at age eighty, I mean, like, 872 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: you know, we we tracked some of the same periods. 873 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 1: You know, I'm seventy five, he's eighty. Uh he could hunt. 874 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't. 875 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 3: Uh. 876 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: And so I see what he did and and I 877 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: mean I'm like in awe, this guy. Yeah, I mean 878 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 1: he's like did you say he was a legend? Should 879 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 1: have been a legend we should have known about. I mean, 880 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, he's I don't think there's many people in 881 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: the whole country that can match what him and his 882 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: son did. Yeah, yeah, I was shocked. Like so my 883 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: one of my one of my friends, Tracy Jones, over 884 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: in East Tennessee, had said, Hey, there's a guy you 885 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: got to meet over here in the mountains, and uh 886 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 1: and and I knew nothing of this guy other than 887 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 1: just what my friend told me. And uh so I 888 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: went over there, and I didn't know what I was expecting. 889 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: But that's not what I was expecting. Henry let us 890 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 1: in his house. And and that video actually did not 891 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 1: show the entire room. There were walls behind me that 892 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: were full of big deer on Instagram. 893 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I love I loved it. 894 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: You probably told it the story better than the story 895 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,760 Speaker 1: really was about the guy's accusing him and his son. 896 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you said, well, and then they're 897 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 1: hard enough to kill in the day. There are enough 898 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: to kill in the daytime. I can't imagine trying to 899 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:44,359 Speaker 1: kill them the night. Yeah, no, they The other thing 900 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 1: is is that they those are all I didn't say it, 901 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: but those are almost all public land deer. 902 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 3: Now. 903 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 1: A lot of the biggest ones came from Illinois, you know. 904 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 1: They They have gone to Illinois for thirty years and 905 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: have and have They were never outfitted hunts. And he's 906 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: just done it. He's just done a lot. But a 907 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 1: neat guy. He just vibrated with excitement talking to him 908 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 1: for real. Eve know, most older people you talk to 909 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 1: their deer story is I've killed so. 910 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,840 Speaker 6: Many deer, I don't care about doing it anymore. 911 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 1: Right, So when you find a guy like that, is 912 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 1: that is so unique in itself that he's still fired 913 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: up in seventy Now I'm sunenty five and I'm still 914 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: fired up. Yeah, just as much as I was when 915 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 1: I was thirty five. I dream about getting out, But 916 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 1: after this knee surgery, I found other hobbies. Yeah that 917 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: I like. 918 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 3: It's easier. 919 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. I found hobbies that I don't have to climb 920 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 1: moundas that I want to climb trees. I don't have 921 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 1: to worry about older. I just go out and enjoy 922 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,959 Speaker 1: my hobby. So but I can't help it. I'm gonna 923 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,840 Speaker 1: be back in the woods at some time. Yeah yeah, 924 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,319 Speaker 1: Well the other thing, and I captured some of this 925 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: on video that it doesn't really translate into putting it 926 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 1: on social media that easy. But mister Henry has designed 927 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 1: a tree stand that he's used for thirty years. He 928 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,320 Speaker 1: has a unique tree stand that's all his own design really, 929 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: that's real lightweight and compact and that he uses. He 930 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: has a he built an electronic deer cart for hauling deer. 931 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 1: You know, once he got older and was hunting that 932 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 1: far back in the mountains, he needed a cart. And man, 933 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,359 Speaker 1: that part of the world is it is incredible. They 934 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,760 Speaker 1: got big mountains too. I mean he was talking about 935 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 1: those boomer little boomer chipmunk squirrels being over five thousand feet. 936 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 1: I mean that's a high mountain with big relief. Like 937 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, if you're in Denver, Colorado, and you talking 938 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 1: about a five thousand foot mountain, it might be flat. 939 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the relief means how much mountain 940 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,760 Speaker 1: is actually there, but out there five thousand foot mountain 941 00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 1: might have four thousand feet of Really that's a big mountain. 942 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 3: You know. 943 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 1: One thing he. 944 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 6: Said that that caught my attention. 945 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,879 Speaker 1: You're talking about five thousand feet, you're talking about going 946 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 1: deep into wilderness. But he at least once said he 947 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,240 Speaker 1: went back, you know an hour. Yeah, I'm thinking about 948 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,320 Speaker 1: places that you and I've hunted. 949 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 6: I mean it's an hour and a half, two hours. 950 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean I don't know, maybe the road 951 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I don't question this guy at all. 952 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 6: I mean any way, I mean he is like my 953 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:30,240 Speaker 6: new hero. 954 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. What did you think about Aaron Stanfol's confession? 955 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,799 Speaker 5: That was the funny story? You know what I thought 956 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 5: about with that. I was like, you know when you're 957 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 5: watching a sitcom and you're like kind of chuckling and laughing, 958 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 5: and you kind of if you ever stopped and be like, 959 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 5: if somebody did that in real life like that. 960 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be funny, it wouldn't be funny. 961 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 5: And you wouldn't Yeah, You're like, nobody would actually do that. 962 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 5: That's how it felt. Like, listen to the story, it's like, 963 00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 5: oh my gosh, you really did that. 964 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,320 Speaker 1: Well, I would say the best thing that he did. 965 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,839 Speaker 1: Was he told the story? Yeah, I mean if he 966 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: and I think he really was, like he was paying 967 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 1: penance by just like telling the story. 968 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 3: Well, I just I'll tell this story just because it's funny. 969 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 3: I don't because I don't feel guilty about it at all. 970 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 3: But you mentioned my brother earlier. Tim, we did. We 971 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 3: have shared everything together. He's eight years older than me. 972 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,719 Speaker 3: He is absolutely next week. He is absolutely my hero 973 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,360 Speaker 3: to this very second, always has been. He took me 974 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 3: hunting when he should have been left me at home 975 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 3: because I was more in the way than the help. 976 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:47,319 Speaker 3: But he took me. 977 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 1: And him I have a lot in common. 978 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 3: He took me with him, and we shared everything except turkeys. 979 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 3: You know. He would go listen and I would go listen. 980 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 3: I call and that night you hear turkey. This morning, nope, 981 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 3: you hear one. I heard three, Nope, I didn't hear anything, 982 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,799 Speaker 3: and gone so far as to He's like, I'm not 983 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 3: hearing anything down here at the river. I'm going to 984 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,799 Speaker 3: go somewhere else. I would go so far as to 985 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 3: taking the turkey foot I had dried out and make 986 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 3: tracks where I knew he was going to see him. 987 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 3: He's like, man I got some sign down here and 988 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 3: I cannot hear this turkey. I'm like, bro, just hanging there. 989 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 3: He's in there. You got this, you just got You 990 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 3: got to lay with it just to keep him off 991 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:33,960 Speaker 3: of my spot. 992 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 1: So okay, so this is this is no different than what. 993 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 3: It is, exactly the same thing, even more links that 994 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,759 Speaker 3: you're going. There was no when it came to turkeys. Now, 995 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 3: deer wasn't that big a deal for me and him, 996 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,439 Speaker 3: So we were actually scared. We was going to kill 997 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 3: a deer. Didn't have to mess with it while we 998 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,880 Speaker 3: were So we just did the deer hunting to keep 999 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 3: us busy till duck season started. So I get it. 1000 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 3: I know where they're coming from. I don't know why 1001 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 3: Fest up to it, but because you can go to 1002 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 3: heaven with that on your conscious, surely, I hope people 1003 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,319 Speaker 3: a turkey hunter, I am good to go. 1004 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 1: Uh. I thought his story of killing the two bucks 1005 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: in Kansas was really good too. 1006 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 3: They stay apart. 1007 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 1: It just sounds so easy. 1008 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 6: All those were very very good stories. 1009 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 3: Every one of. 1010 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 1: Them just unbelievable. Most of them, well, we've done so 1011 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 1: We've done three deer Stories podcasts and just a full disclosure. 1012 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,040 Speaker 1: Part of the Deer Stories thing is a function of 1013 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 1: the amount of work that it takes to do a 1014 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:52,800 Speaker 1: documentary style podcast. And in the fall, we're we're hunting, 1015 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 1: we're traveling, we're doing stuff, And so the Deer Stories 1016 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 1: is a way for me to collect stories. And I 1017 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,280 Speaker 1: love him just as much as his documentary style podcast. Honestly, 1018 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,280 Speaker 1: I think it's a good change of pace for people, 1019 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 1: and and I I really, I really enjoy it. But 1020 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,880 Speaker 1: we're about to We're about to start learning stuff again. Sorry, guys, you' 1021 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 1: are gonna actually have to listen and pay attention and 1022 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,240 Speaker 1: not have any more fun. We're just like, it's gonna 1023 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:27,319 Speaker 1: be like a militant journey through American history culture, deep 1024 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,319 Speaker 1: dives into yourself. We're gonna be digging up our own 1025 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 1: our own issues, looking at the world. You ready, Missy. 1026 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm just saying I know about a couple of these. 1027 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good It's gonna be a good 1028 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 2: little run. 1029 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh gosh, I wish I could. I wish I 1030 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 1: could tell you what I'm working on. I've got three 1031 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 1: things I'm working on. Your shadow. 1032 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 2: I have a funny story about about Bear, our son 1033 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 2: who's had an incredible dear season so far. Yeah, he's 1034 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,280 Speaker 2: gone out and and and sought a lot of land 1035 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 2: and done a lot of scouting and has good public 1036 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 2: land options and uh. He he's good at recruiting people 1037 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 2: to come with him. So there's there's a little crew 1038 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,840 Speaker 2: of guys that goes out and they go out and hunt, 1039 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 2: and then he's also good at bringing them back to 1040 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 2: help him process his his deer. He does a great 1041 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,799 Speaker 2: job of that. And he was telling us about one 1042 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,920 Speaker 2: of his friends. One of his friends has a romantic interest. 1043 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,320 Speaker 2: I think I think this is this is an okay 1044 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,839 Speaker 2: story to tell. I don't think I'm disclosing anything, and 1045 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 2: has been less interested in helping Bear process venison this 1046 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,920 Speaker 2: the he Bear said, they have a group chat all 1047 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 2: these guys, and Bear texted and said, hey, you've not 1048 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,799 Speaker 2: been as a as as in the deer hunting this year. 1049 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,160 Speaker 2: What's going on? I think you your priorities are are 1050 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 2: a little a little skewed this year. And the guy 1051 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 2: writes back on the thread to all the guys and 1052 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 2: he said, bear into your You'll understand when your priorities change. 1053 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 2: And bear bear in front of all of us. We're 1054 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 2: all processing. We had like a little meat processing party, 1055 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:16,479 Speaker 2: and Bear very adamantly and boldly said, my priorities will 1056 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:23,560 Speaker 2: never change. I told my mom, and she said, you 1057 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 2: need to record that somewhere. 1058 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,360 Speaker 3: The same thing, the same reason y'all got your processing 1059 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 3: the deer is the same thing that's going to happen 1060 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 3: to Bear. 1061 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 5: One. 1062 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 1: I haven't heard that one. 1063 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, he said. We had a good way. 1064 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 1: Strangely, I think Bear will have his life management skills 1065 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 1: down enough that he will be able to maintain high 1066 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 1: levels of integrity in both categories. 1067 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 2: Well, I looked at him. I said, Bear, I'm pretty 1068 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,839 Speaker 2: sure your priorities are going to change. And he said, well, 1069 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 2: what I'm saying and he started back pund a little bit. 1070 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that I think that my I alreadies 1071 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 2: will be such that it can accommodate both. I will 1072 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 2: not have to cut back on any deer hunting. I'm 1073 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 2: telling you right now, Bear needs to cut back on 1074 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 2: his deer hunting, working to school. His priorities are not 1075 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 2: quite what they should be right now. But he's had 1076 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:21,840 Speaker 2: a very successful hunting Season's funny. 1077 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 3: That's good. That's good. 1078 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 1: That's good. Well, Hey, thank you guys so much. Ben, 1079 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,080 Speaker 1: congratulations on the big buck. Thanks Brent. This country life man, 1080 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 1: it's going awesome. 1081 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:31,600 Speaker 3: Thank you. 1082 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 1: Hey, I will tell you this, I will foreshadow touch here. 1083 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,040 Speaker 1: Here we go, Brent Raves and I are fixing to 1084 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 1: do a Mississippi River expedition. 1085 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,800 Speaker 3: Oh, the cats out, the catfish is out of the 1086 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 3: Look at what I. 1087 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 5: Kind of had. 1088 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm wearing right here all that if you want to 1089 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 1: read that, Ben, what's it say? Boats arc man, Me 1090 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 1: and Brent have a I love it so much. Me 1091 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,920 Speaker 1: and Brent have a twenty six foot sea arc boat 1092 00:57:56,160 --> 00:58:00,480 Speaker 1: with a three hundred horsepower Suzuki fully covered. I mean, 1093 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 1: it's it's just shy of Noah's Arc. And uh, we 1094 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,600 Speaker 1: are we are going on a two hundred, two hundred 1095 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:15,120 Speaker 1: plus mile expedition down the Mississippi River like our forefathers, 1096 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 1: Davy Crockett, Whole Collier. Just starting to list of names. 1097 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 1: They've been there, Twains, Daniel Boone, They've been there. And uh, 1098 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 1: We're going on a deer hunt, cat fishing trip, duck 1099 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 1: hunting trip on the Mississippi River. And at some point 1100 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 1: in the years to come, perhaps this will be people 1101 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,200 Speaker 1: could see this through digital imagery. 1102 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 3: Be good. 1103 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm looking forward to Are they up here now? 1104 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 1: They're at We're SEC. Yeah, they're in Monticello. 1105 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,320 Speaker 3: Ar good folks. 1106 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 1: I was telling Steve Arnello about our Sea Arc boat 1107 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 1: and Steve was like, I have a Sea Arc boat 1108 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:06,040 Speaker 1: and I said, well, they're from Arkansas, and uh yeah, Steve, 1109 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 1: Steve has a Sea Arc. 1110 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 6: You eat a lot of boat companies in Arkansas. Yeah, yeah, 1111 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 6: what happens. 1112 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 1: These guys work for like Ranger, and they learned the 1113 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 1: business and then they moved down here and start their own. 1114 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,680 Speaker 1: That might not be how all this works, but you 1115 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 1: see it in a lot in different areas. Yeah. A 1116 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 1: good friend of mine, a college friend of mine that's 1117 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 1: got the Express boat in Hot Springs in Ranger boats 1118 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,280 Speaker 1: in that boat and there's probably one or two that 1119 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm forgetting. This War Eagle made in Arkansas. 1120 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's one of the best duck boats there. 1121 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 3: Used to be Arc. Sea Arc is there. They're good stuff. 1122 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,000 Speaker 3: Get a lot of good folks down there. I've been 1123 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,360 Speaker 3: down there several times and I've gotten real close with 1124 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 3: the folks that are building our boat, and man they 1125 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 3: are they are absolutely focused on making boats and stuff. 1126 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,360 Speaker 3: That we can use and a lot of folks can 1127 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 3: use out there on the big water. 1128 01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,760 Speaker 6: It's twenty six foot. That's you wouldn't much smaller, would you. 1129 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Well, you wouldn't want much bigger really on for a 1130 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,040 Speaker 1: like a pleasure craft, just because it would be too big. 1131 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 1: That's a big boat. Yeah, Yeah, that's a big boat. 1132 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's made for the Mississippi River. I 1133 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 1: mean that's what that am I right, Bren, Absolutely, I 1134 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:21,919 Speaker 1: mean that that's a river boat. 1135 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 3: That's the Mississippi river boat. 1136 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 1: I mean that's longer than this room we're in. Your 1137 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 1: cousin has had a twenty three foot and he had 1138 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 1: plans to go down the Mississippi. I don't remember if 1139 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 1: he ever did it, but twenty three I think would 1140 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 1: be a minimum. Yeah, I mean he can get dangerous 1141 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,400 Speaker 1: out there. The river's super low right now. The river 1142 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 1: that's the only bummer about it. For the next little 1143 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 1: wild River's gonna be really low, which I mean won't 1144 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 1: make any difference. It's big enough for us to get down. 1145 01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:59,240 Speaker 1: But Mississippi River she's going dry, pretty preacher man says 1146 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 1: the end of time, Mississippi River she's a going dry. Yeah, yeah, 1147 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 1: what's the rest of the. 1148 01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 3: Song, Hank, country Boy can't Survive. 1149 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,280 Speaker 2: That was the class song for the senior class, right 1150 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:12,720 Speaker 2: ahead of me. 1151 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 3: Is that right cool? 1152 01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:19,440 Speaker 1: Well, guys, thanks for coming. Good to see Ben, Dad, Misty. 1153 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:21,120 Speaker 1: Great to see everyone. 1154 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:22,400 Speaker 2: Good to see you play. 1155 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 1: Have a great week. Everybody's