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Speaker 1: Well, hello everybody, it is me Rosie O'Donnell. How are you?

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Speaker 1: Summer is almost over? Can you even believe that? I

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Speaker 1: got back from my vacation with all my kids except Chelse,

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Speaker 1: who was not available. We had a great time. You know.

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Speaker 1: Parkers showed up for a couple days and doesn't like

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Speaker 1: the beach, so he sat in the house for most

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Speaker 1: that's the kind of vacation I like, when you just

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Speaker 1: Jeanie and Jackie both came to I'm not used to

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Speaker 1: walking up very steep dunes in the hot sand, and

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Speaker 1: enough And it was awful, it really was. And speaking

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Speaker 1: I can't get over it. I can't get over what's

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Speaker 1: going on in Hawaii. And it's very very unnerving. You know,

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Speaker 1: my aunt Minnie, my father's eldest brother James, uncle Jim

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Speaker 1: Armed Forces. And we have been going there and knowing

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Speaker 1: about Kamea Maya and the history of the Hawaiian Islands.

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Speaker 1: And since I was a little girl, and I've been

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Speaker 1: there as an adult. I was there as a teenager,

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Speaker 1: and I just can't believe the sorrow that you feel

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Speaker 1: looking at what's happening. And every time there's a world

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Speaker 1: crisis or a national crisis for me somehow the national

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Speaker 1: ones starting with Columbine to me, and then of course

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Speaker 1: all have to do what we can, we really do.

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Speaker 1: I saw some millionaires who live there, billionaires who live there. Actually,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos being one, gave one hundred million dollars, which is,

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Speaker 1: you know, not a lot for Jeff Bezos, I don't think,

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Speaker 1: but good for him for doing that. And I wish

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Speaker 1: all the other billionaires of MAUI would follow suit, wouldn't

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Speaker 1: that be nice? It's hard to tell people what they

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Speaker 1: or shouldn't feel. What else is going on in my

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Speaker 1: life and my world. Trump is in trouble. He's in

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Speaker 1: big trouble, and I think in order for our nation

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Speaker 1: is going to be held accountable, and that's what's happening

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Speaker 1: right now in the world. We have a wonderful guest today,

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Speaker 1: my friend Samantha b and I'm so happy that I

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Speaker 1: got to know her. And it was all because of

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Speaker 1: Nora Ephron. You know, Nora Efron wrote this wonderful show

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Speaker 1: with her sister Delia called Love, Loss and What I Wore,

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Speaker 1: all about women's connection to their clothing and style and fashion,

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Speaker 1: which is frankly something I don't possess. I consider that

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Speaker 1: the girl gene. You know, my friends have always told

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Speaker 1: me that my clothing, Joe's Basic Boy, Toddler, Love Loss,

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Speaker 1: and it featured five of us women in the original cast,

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Speaker 1: you know or you love her, Samantha be Well, Hello,

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Speaker 1: Samantha Bee, Hi, how are you. I'm really good. It

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Speaker 1: was so fun to do your podcast.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I enjoyed our conversations so thoroughly. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: I think everyone else did too.

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Speaker 1: It was so good to talk to you. Oh, I'm glad.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad about that.

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Speaker 2: You do.

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Speaker 1: Yes, once you have your own you kind of want

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Speaker 2: Well, you delivered.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm very glad. How is everyone in your family?

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Speaker 2: Everyone in my family is good. It's like summertime stuff.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like I don't know what your life

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Speaker 2: is like in the summer, But now I'm just driving. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm just driving everybody everywhere because no one's old enough

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Speaker 1: What's the ages, what's the age?

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Speaker 2: So ages are thirteen and fifteen and seventeen, and so

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Speaker 2: she's learning to drive, but she doesn't have a driver's license.

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Speaker 2: So I'm doing Everybody does a lot of activities, and

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Speaker 2: that means that I'm doing no activities other than driving.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I remember those days. I remember those You

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Speaker 1: feel like you're an uber driver? You really do, No,

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Speaker 1: I am. I'm definitely an uber driver. And where we're

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Speaker 2: I'm listening to audiobooks and stuff, so it's it's okay.

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Speaker 2: And they don't want to talk to me anyway, So

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Speaker 2: it's not like we're having rich conversations.

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Speaker 1: Where leave me. I understand, Tonny, I've lived through it

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Speaker 2: I literally am like an uber driver and no one's

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Speaker 1: And that they all have their ear pods in listening

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Speaker 2: They don't think my stuff is horrible and that my

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Speaker 1: They accuse me of emo music too. They think Joni

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's fair, it probably is, But why.

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Speaker 1: Are you listening to that suicide music? Like, what are

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Speaker 2: You know, first of all, I love like Freeman Embarrass

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Speaker 2: They're just like it's so sad. It's like this music

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Speaker 2: How can you this isn't driving music?

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Speaker 2: Car is good. I also like we go for We

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right. I definitely do very helpful.

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Speaker 1: Now I read it. So I've already heard you on

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Speaker 2: of that, but having to comment on the news cycle

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Speaker 1: You feel like despair.

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Speaker 2: You feel despair. You have to be so you have

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Speaker 2: I don't yearn for that. I don't yearn for it.

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Speaker 1: How come I thought that you were from a big family.

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Speaker 1: Sure, totally.

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Speaker 2: And one of the things that I really love is

439
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 2: interviewing people. I love it. I just am curious. I

440
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 2: want to know about people. I love to learn. So

441
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 2: that was really the takeaway. I loved to travel, I

442
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: love to do field pieces. I like to interview and

443
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 2: think and great and know, and that's the I love.

444
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 2: I don't love to perform, for sure. And there are

445
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 2: things that I have to say in this world. So

446
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,719
Speaker 2: I had to ask myself what is it that I

447
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 2: love and what do I think is left for me

448
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 2: to say? Because I've been in the world old of

449
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: politics and political comedy for at that point twenty years, right,

450
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: haven't I said it all? Like what stone? What stone

451
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: is left unturned?

452
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 1: Right? There's not a lot of issues that people would

453
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: go I wonder what Samantha Bee thinks about that. It's

454
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: because you put them out there. Yeah, bravely, courageously, so

455
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: thankfully you know, as a woman, I want to thank

456
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,959
Speaker 1: you for those whole seven years to do it, because

457
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,719
Speaker 1: it you know, we had a voice. I mean, and

458
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: I have to say, when Mattow went away, you were

459
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,239
Speaker 1: to go to I was like Mattow, I'm still man

460
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 1: at her. I won't even watch her on Mondays now,

461
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, what were you possibly doing as the world

462
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: is falling apart to go leave us to just Mondays?

463
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: You wnch? I really am her? Yeah exactly.

464
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like, so what what what is la like?

465
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 2: What what is undiscovered country for me? Or what are

466
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: the things that I'm still passionate to talk about and

467
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,959
Speaker 2: interview people about? And so those were the those are

468
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: the goals that I carried forward. And the end result

469
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: of that is actually that we created a podcast, which

470
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 2: I had a podcast at the show, but I wanted

471
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: to continue that because I actually did. I loved it.

472
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 2: I loved it doing it. It was I found it

473
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 2: very relaxing and very invigorating.

474
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Speaker 1: Are you a big podcast listener?

475
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

476
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 2: I love listening to podcasts, and I listened to a

477
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 2: lot of news podcasts and they really they just it's

478
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: such a It's a good way for me through osmosis

479
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: to like receive information so I don't have to scroll frantically,

480
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 2: so I don't have to scroll at four thirty in

481
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 2: the morning.

482
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: I understood, wake up, understood.

483
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 2: It just goes, It just goes. In like, yeah, it

484
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 2: was into the.

485
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: Mostess, the point of your podcast or the focus of

486
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: your podcast is what now listen. I hate when people

487
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: ask me that because mine doesn't particularly have one, but

488
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 1: maybe yours does.

489
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Speaker 2: You know what It's like you end up having these

490
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: meandering conversations no matter what. But I guess the jumping

491
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 2: off point to choice words is the choices that you

492
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: make in life, like the big like a big choice

493
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 2: or a little choice that reverberates through your life, like

494
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 2: what's the pebble that drops into the pond and the

495
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: ripple effects in your life. I'm so I'm curious about

496
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: all that stuff because I feel like there are many

497
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 2: moments in my own life where I just made a

498
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: good choice or a bad choice and I still feel

499
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: the effects of that today. They totally They take you

500
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 2: on a path. You go down a path and I'm

501
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: curious about other people and you know, and then it

502
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 2: evolves and then it evolves into like a rolicing conversation

503
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 2: about like you and I talked about forty five different

504
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: things and it was awesome, Like I don't even yeah.

505
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: I remember specifically what, but I know, yeah, I had

506
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: fun talking to you. That's like when when people say

507
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: you have this podcast today, I'm so excited because I

508
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: like the structure. I like to work. I like to

509
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: have something that I have to do a little bit

510
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: of re search and remind myself of what I fell

511
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: in love with this person first for, and you know,

512
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: renew my enthusiasm and it makes me feel alive, you know, totally.

513
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: It's like it does. I don't know, it's wonderful that

514
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 2: in a way, it's I don't know if you feel

515
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 2: this way too. Way. I mean, in a way, it's

516
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 2: wonderful that people listen to it and they like it too,

517
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 2: but it almost feels like just a conversation you would

518
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: have normally if you are together in a room, which

519
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: makes it even better.

520
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: I agree. I think it's really it's really fun and

521
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: it's something that I definitely want to continue doing. I mean, yes,

522
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: you look at somebody like Joe Rogan and you know,

523
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: stand up like I did for so many years, and

524
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: you look at his success and you think, what the hell,

525
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: you know, do you have to have conspiracy theories in

526
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: order to get to be a very famous pott. I'm

527
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: not really sure.

528
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like it's like he's up for something

529
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 2: that I'm not up for, which is I'm not that

530
00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 2: curious about people's shitty ideas. Yeah me either, Like I

531
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 2: think they're pretty shitty ideas. And I don't really need

532
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: to get into it because I'm just right. I don't

533
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 2: want to argue with some Well.

534
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: That's what somebody was like, Uh, could you please? Somebody

535
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: called and you know, was like inquiring, did we want

536
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: to book Bobby Kennedy. I'm like, no, I don't know, No,

537
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: don't no interest.

538
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: Can I tell you something? This guy tell me? His

539
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: campaign is is killing me inside.

540
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: It's killing me too. It's unbelievable. How about him? Second,

541
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: I never said that about vaccinations? And then they roll

542
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: nineteen clips.

543
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,959
Speaker 2: Nineteen clips? Yeah, what are you talking about?

544
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: Did you happen to see Mitch McConnell have a mini

545
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: stroke there on the microphone?

546
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: I did. I did see that.

547
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: What were your thoughts of that? Uh?

548
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: My thought was, even though I don't like this person,

549
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: I don't appreciate his ideas, it's still horrific to witness

550
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: someone I agree, it was terrifying. It's terrifying.

551
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,239
Speaker 1: I thought he was going to fall right down, you know, Like,

552
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: And I also was like isn't anybody seeing this like?

553
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: It felt like it took forever.

554
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: I feel like intervention could have come a lot sooner.

555
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: We could ad Candy finneran in there.

556
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: Come on, let's go, let's I mean, clearly, this person

557
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: is having a medical emergency. Yea, it really went on

558
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: a long time, Yes, before anyone helped them. Yeah, I didn't.

559
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: It wasn't a joyful I didn't feel I didn't feel

560
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: good watching it. I felt like, oh, no one.

561
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: I felt so concerned about the age. You know, people

562
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: are like, I'm sick of hearing about the age of it. Listen,

563
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: if there's an age you have to be to get

564
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: in the Senate and to get it to be running

565
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: for president, there has to be an age out. There

566
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: has to be a start and an ending. Yes, you know, yes,

567
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: because when I see all these octagenarians running the country,

568
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: part of me is like, this is embarrassing.

569
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: It's not effective, And you know, we don't have to

570
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 2: logans run it like, we don't need to. We don't

571
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: need to shut everyone down once they turned thirty. That's

572
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: not what we're talking about here. But they're could be

573
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: and we should age out of these positions. First of

574
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: all because you want to make way for younger people,

575
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 2: you want to make way for new ideas. Things are

576
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: done differently, the technology is different.

577
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: I'm not.

578
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: Agist. I love old people. I'm not saying that there's

579
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: nothing to contribute. There are ways to contribute. But boy,

580
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: oh boy, I just don't think, you know, how can

581
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: we be having debates about AI.

582
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: How can we be.

583
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: Having these conversations in the future. We are just like

584
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: catapulting ourselves into it's going to be incomprehensible.

585
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: That is.

586
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: I feel like part of the reason why we move

587
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: so slowly like a cruise ship, like making a law

588
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: about something. Anticipating problems is not our strong suit. Long

589
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: game is not really where we're at.

590
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: So are you going to go do stand up anywhere?

591
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: Are you're going to go do live shows.

592
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: Doing I'm doing a live show. I'm touring it. I

593
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: just I just announced a bunch of new DA's.

594
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: Actually, is it changing ever changing the show or is

595
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: it a lockdown thing that you wrote that's like a

596
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: one woman show.

597
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: So it's like a one woman show, so it's pretty lockdown.

598
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: I definitely did. I did about seventeen sixteen or seventeen

599
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 2: dates in the spring, and I loved it, and so

600
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: I'm adding the same amount of cities in the fall.

601
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: I'm great because it's basically the same. I think I'll

602
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: make some adjustments over the summer. You know, you end up,

603
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: I just want to refresh it for myself. And there

604
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: are areas where I was like, oh, I think I

605
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: think I can either beat this or just I love

606
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 2: to change the tone of it, or like alter it

607
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: a little bit, but ultimately it's I love doing it.

608
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: It's I don't know if you feel similarly, but there's

609
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: something about live performance where I just feel like, oh,

610
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: I feel so three dimensional.

611
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: There's nothing like being up there with the crowd and

612
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: having to ride the wave of their enthusiasm and attention

613
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: and try to, you know, figure out where you're going

614
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: as you do it. It's something very enriching.

615
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: It's very special. It's very enriching. If people are entertained,

616
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 2: that's great. But I feel like there's a symbiotic relationship,

617
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: like there's I'm getting as much out of them as

618
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: they're getting out of me, Like we're together.

619
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: Right, it is. It is a reciprocal yes, joy failed

620
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: thing because yeah, there's no way to explain what that

621
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: feels like either to people. You know. I remember once

622
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: years ago, Madonna was at the O two when I

623
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: was there the week before it opened, and there was

624
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: the first night she said come here, and she was

625
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: backstage so nobody could see me, and you just heard

626
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,239
Speaker 1: when they saw her shadow whatever, the screaming, and I

627
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: felt like I was physically moved by the energy, like

628
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: my body was put I felt a force pushing me backwards,

629
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: like how much incoming directed what not at me? At her?

630
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: And I was just in the background, you know. And

631
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: I thought that as a comic, it's much more intimate

632
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: than the mass adulation from the multitudes. You know, very

633
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: few comics get to play Shay Stadium or you know,

634
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: the O two arena. Right, maybe Kevin Hart, I don't

635
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: know who else, maybe Dave Chappelle, right right right, But

636
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: just having felt trippy.

637
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: It's like I feel like on the stage, I can

638
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 2: feel my back and I can feel my front, and

639
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: I feel my sides. I feel like I just am

640
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: like almost like a girl who became real, like a

641
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: doll that became real in the just.

642
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: For that stepped down the stage.

643
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 2: It's very it's a very special and unique experience, and

644
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: I love the material because I'm talking about menopause and

645
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: all this stuff, and I think it's like really needs

646
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: to be said. And so that is really the truth

647
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 2: that I needed to uncover and say to people, is

648
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: think about our bodies and how misunderstood they are and

649
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: how fucking mad we are about that, and how it's ridiculous.

650
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: It's like very.

651
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 2: Fun to say those words and have people like scream

652
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: back because they it's just there's something so.

653
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: So real cool. If I got my menopause started at forty,

654
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: believe it or not, and i would be in the

655
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Speaker 1: target with the kid and I'd see an older woman

656
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 1: and I'd want to be like, why didn't you tell

657
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: them that? Like every older woman. I was angry at

658
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: because I thought, where's the big Nora Efron book on menopause?

659
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 1: But you know she died, but where is the irma bomback?

660
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: Like I don't know. I felt like I was very

661
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: unprepared for menipase and then very angry that it was

662
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: as bad as it was.

663
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: It's very bad or a very It's like the conditions

664
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: of menopause or paramanimal bass are so unique and it's huge.

665
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: It's like a tsunami in your body, and but it's

666
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 2: also attached to all this shame, like it was like

667
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 2: a secret. It just was like a secret that everyone

668
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: kept forever, like a shameful, embarrassing secret. And I can't

669
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: keep it a secret. I love to talk about like

670
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: what it really did to me.

671
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 1: And Honey, do a book right after, because there needs

672
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: to be a book where people can go to and

673
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: laugh and also just cry and go, I'm going to

674
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Speaker 1: get through this, you know.

675
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: Yes, And like our partners need to know about it,

676
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 2: and like everybody needs to know about it so that

677
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 2: we can all so you don't have to introduce this

678
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: concept to your partner for the first time in their life.

679
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: Like it's working unfair. It's unfair to everyone. I don't

680
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 2: want my daughters to feel like they can't talk about

681
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: what's happening in their body's Like my grandmother's generation would

682
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 2: have never talked about it. I think even my mother's

683
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: generation would not have talked about it.

684
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: Now.

685
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: Only now are we really starting to talk about it.

686
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 2: And fifty percent of the world experiences it. That's crazy.

687
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: It is crazy. Well listen, I think you're fantastic. I

688
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: always have. I love that we got to do that

689
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: Nora e Fron play together, so fun. That was one

690
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: of my sweet memories of getting to meet women that

691
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know and so I did and getting to

692
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: do that wonderful show.

693
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: Every day I still think of Nora so and her

694
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 2: sister is just so fondly. I'm still so sad that

695
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 2: Noura's gone.

696
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: Especially hard sometimes I still think I'm going to see

697
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: what she thinks of a nice dite, you know, like

698
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: something political, especially you know.

699
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Speaker 2: Do you remember that she gave everybody her own little

700
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: self bound cookbook at the end of that Still I

701
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 2: use it.

702
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: It's incredible of it. It's so crush cook but I haven't.

703
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: She was so loving and so great and I miss

704
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: her a lot too. Yeah, but I'm glad she got

705
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: us to be buddies. So there, youd, Yes she did.

706
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: I admire you so much. Thank you so much for.

707
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: Us well, honey, anytime, and I love you.

708
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: I love you too, all right, bye bye, We'll be

709
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: back with questions from you.

710
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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, we're back, and now we have some wonderfully

711
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: surprising comments and questions from you the listener, And please

712
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,479
Speaker 1: drop us a little message and send it to us,

713
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: and we'll see if we can get you on here.

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Speaker 1: Here's the first question from you a listener.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Rosie, this is Micah calling from Highland Park, Los

716
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 5: Angeles area. I just finished reading your two thousand and

717
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 5: two memoir Find Me, and I enjoyed it so much.

718
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 5: I found it so riveting, so fascinating, so vulnerable, and

719
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 5: I just burned through it. I work at the Music

720
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 5: Center downtown as an usher, and so I read during

721
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 5: the shows, and you came in saw Transparent, and I

722
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 5: was so bummed that I missed you because I was

723
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 5: working at Amansen that night. But anyway, I digress. Usually

724
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 5: I only read while I'm at work, but this was

725
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 5: so good that I was even reading it at home

726
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 5: when I was off. But my question is, how do

727
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 5: you feel about this book now? I mean, I loved it,

728
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 5: But you know, twenty years later, are you still in

729
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 5: touch with Melissa? Have your feelings changed about how you

730
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 5: felt when you were writing this book? You know, a

731
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 5: lot can change in twenty years, and I'm just curious

732
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 5: what this follow up to this book is. But yeah,

733
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Speaker 5: I loved it, and I love you and keep doing

734
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Speaker 5: what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. What a sweet little memo. I

736
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: love hearing your voices. I love getting these questions and comments,

737
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: and thank you for what you said about that book

738
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: Find Me. That was the first book that I wrote

739
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: with the help of Lawrence Later, who's a friend of

740
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: mine and also a psychologist. And you know when I

741
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: went to her at first and said, here's what's happened

742
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: in my life in the last eight months. And it's

743
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: a riveting story. And what I want the book to

744
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: be about is who's the crazy one? Who's the crazy one?

745
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: Is that this woman in the middle of the country,

746
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: diagnosed with multiple personality disorder, who somehow connected with me

747
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: through an adoption agency phone number and wanted help for

748
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: her daughter who had been attacked by a youth minister

749
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 1: in the church in the town. And I am still

750
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: in touch with Melissa, and that's not her real name,

751
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 1: but I'm still in touch with with her, and we

752
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: sometimes text and we have an occasional call and check

753
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: in with each other. She has a son that I

754
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: didn't mention in the book because he was young still

755
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: and I worried about confidence and custody and whether the

756
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: book would affect that, so we didn't include him in

757
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: the book. Everybody in that family is doing well, and

758
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: you know, my feelings about the book haven't changed. That's

759
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: sort of who I was and where I was at

760
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: the time, doing my show in the swirl of fame

761
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: and showbiz and celebrity, which was new to me and

762
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,959
Speaker 1: affected me in ways that I didn't really have time

763
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: to process while I was in the midst of it.

764
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Speaker 1: And I think now twenty years later, looking back, I

765
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: can see I was trying to, you know, maintain my

766
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 1: humanity and my open heart and still care as much

767
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: as I do about people and their world and what's happening.

768
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: And I think that the amount of interaction and the

769
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: amount of love and connection that I put into that

770
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: relationship is something that I have continued to do in

771
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: my adult life with people that I meet. I never

772
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: think that you meet someone by accident. I always think

773
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 1: when someone comes into your life and your world, there's

774
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: a reason and that's not coincidence, And there really isn't coincidence.

775
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: So you know, there was of all the people that

776
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: got through, she got through and we had a personal

777
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 1: connection and that's what happened in the relationship. So yes,

778
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: that's the answer to your questions. I think and I'm

779
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: so happy that you loved the book. So thank you

780
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: very much for this question, and thank you for caring

781
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 1: so much and for speaking so lovingly about a piece

782
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: of my life and work that felt very personal and

783
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: I was very nervous about putting it out there. So

784
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you received it and that you really

785
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: liked did so thank you so much. All right, and

786
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: we've got another question now coming in for today. Let's

787
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: see what we got.

788
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,959
Speaker 4: Hi, ro, this is Polly sending you a message from

789
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 4: the mountains of western North Carolina, just outside of Asheville.

790
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 4: I grew up in central New York, Stateville, and I'm

791
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 4: just about a year older than you, so I have

792
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 4: a lot of the same references that you do, such

793
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 4: as going into New York and seeing shows and things

794
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 4: like that. And I enjoy it when your callers send

795
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 4: in a message to say that they loved coming home

796
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 4: from school and watching your program. And for me and

797
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 4: I suspect you.

798
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 3: It was Mike Douglas that we would watch in the

799
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 3: afternoon and merv Griffin that we would watch in the evening,

800
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 3: and I just love those shows, especially well both of them,

801
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 3: but Mike Douglas the way the format where he had

802
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 3: a famous guest host for the entire week, and then

803
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 3: they would get on all these other people and they

804
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 3: would be interviewed by both Mike Douglas and his guest host,

805
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 3: and some of those pairings were just absolutely wild. And

806
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if you could share some memories of watching

807
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 3: those programs. And I'll start the ball rolling by telling

808
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 3: you about my favorite comedy and then I thought she

809
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 3: was the funniest person to walk the earth, the wonderful

810
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 3: Tody Fields. And I remember a story she told about

811
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: losing her so called diamond ring down down a toilet

812
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 3: on an airplane and how she had to work with

813
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: the airline to get that back, and it was a

814
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: historical story.

815
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 4: I need to find that sometime. Maybe it's on YouTube.

816
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if you could share some stories and especially

817
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 3: about Tody Fields. Did you love her as I did?

818
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: Were you inspired by her when you started your career?

819
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 3: Just curious and just wanted to share a few memories

820
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: from one sixty plus year old to another. Thanks and

821
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 3: I love your show.

822
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: Bye, Thank you so much. What a great, great little

823
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: memo there. I totally loved Mike Douglas like you did

824
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: and Merv Griffin. You know, I was so blown away

825
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: by Tody Fields my whole career. I never really wanted

826
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 1: to be a comedian, a stand up so to speak.

827
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: I really wanted to be like a Broadway actress and

828
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: Barbara Streis and Bette Midler, you know. I wanted to

829
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: be a harled, a backup singer for bed. I didn't

830
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: necessarily look at stand up as an art form that

831
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: I wanted to get into, you know. I wasn't that

832
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: familiar with it, and it didn't speak to me as

833
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: much as musicals did and acting did. But it was

834
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: Tody Fields who got me very interested in a woman's

835
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: point of view and perspective done in that genre of entertainment,

836
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: and I just fell in love with her. Tody Fields

837
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: was one of my favorites, for sure. I loved Phyllis too,

838
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: and I got to know Phyllis Diller towards the end

839
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: of her career, and she was very kind to me

840
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: and used to send me gifts from her closet, like

841
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: I wore this on The Tonight Show in nineteen sixty eight,

842
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: and she'd send me, you know, a purse that she

843
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: used in Vegas and It was very very lovely and

844
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: very sweet, and she sent me art to She was

845
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: a wonderful painter. I've had a really, really amazing career

846
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: where I've got to meet so many of the people

847
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: that I admired growing up, and it's been very fulfilling

848
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: for me. It's been very overwhelming and very much full

849
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: circle moment. So yes, Mike and MURRV I owe them everything,

850
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 1: and thank you for listening, Thank you for your comments. Listen.

851
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: If you want to leave us a voice memo, please,

852
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: do you got a question, you got a suggestion, you

853
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: got just something you got to get off your chest.

854
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 1: All you gotta do is go to Onward Rosie at

855
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 1: gmail dot com. How do you make a voice memo?

856
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: People say, well, I can only tell you. If you

857
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: have an iPhone iPhone type in voice memo, little microphone

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Speaker 1: comes up, go press the button, record it. Then it

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Speaker 1: says where to say mail Onward Rosie at gmail dot com.

860
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: Attach five. You're done. That's it. And if you haven't Android,

861
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: tough luck. I don't have anything to say to help you. Really,

862
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: it just got shake it. Maybe just shake it, okay,

863
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 1: So listen. We have a great, great guest next week.

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Speaker 1: My personal chef, an internationally renowned celebrity chef, Elizabeth Faulkner.

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Speaker 1: Not only is she one of the best chefs in

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Speaker 1: the country, she really is. I have to tell you,

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Speaker 1: she is a magical woman. During COVID, she was sitting

868
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: around and feeling antsy and feeling like, I don't know

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00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: what to do. All of these restaurants are closing, all

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Speaker 1: of these famous chefs that she knows are out of

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Speaker 1: work and struggling, And somehow she put together this beautiful,

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Speaker 1: beautiful documentary called Sorry We're Closed, and it's about what

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Speaker 1: happened to the restaurant business during COVID. So during COVID,

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Speaker 1: she went and interviewed all of her friends who are

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Speaker 1: internationally renowned chefs in their own right, and they talked

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Speaker 1: about the effect that COVID had on the lives of

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Speaker 1: these chefs who run two hundred person families by having

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Speaker 1: a staff and this you know, and knowing all the

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Speaker 1: staff and seeing them every day and all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden to nothing to know, work to know. And it's

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Speaker 1: a wonderful, wonderful look at the ramifications culturally and financially

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Speaker 1: and emotionally on a specific group of people whose job

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Speaker 1: it is to love and give and serve food to others.

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Speaker 1: It is one of my favorite documentaries I've ever seen,

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Speaker 1: and I was so moved by knowing how real it

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Speaker 1: was for me COVID and the effect it had on me,

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Speaker 1: and then seeing the effect on a specific group of people.

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Speaker 1: So Elizabeth Faulkner is going to be here next week

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Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about her documentary. And her

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Speaker 1: documentary is available now. Sorry, we're closed on Amazon and

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Speaker 1: Apple and iTunes, and it's available for you, and I

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Speaker 1: think you will love it. I really do. I loved

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Speaker 1: it so much. I've watched it a bunch of times,

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Speaker 1: and every time I see something or hear something different

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Speaker 1: from these unbelievably talented, loving chefs that she gets to

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Speaker 1: speak to Elizabeth Faulkner next week here on onward