Speaker 1: Who's that man talking in my Ron Burgundy? Hello, this
Speaker 1: is Ron Burgundy and you guessed it. Welcome to the
Speaker 1: Ron Burgundy Podcast. I am, of course, joined by Carolina. Carolina.
Speaker 1: How are you? Um? I'm good? Actually think you great?
Speaker 1: You look very pretty today. I'm just going to say
Speaker 1: what really? Yes, you've literally never said anything complimentary about Hila.
Speaker 1: I got eighteen hours of sleep last night, so I
Speaker 1: feel very refreshed. Um. Today's show is is quite fascinating.
Speaker 1: We are going to be talking about the Internet. And
Speaker 1: the Internet, for those of you who don't know, was
Speaker 1: originally created by the U. S. Military as a way
Speaker 1: for members of our armed forces to trade baking recipes
Speaker 1: with each other. M interesting since that first computer was
Speaker 1: connected to another computer by Alexander Graham Bell all the
Speaker 1: way back in two thousand four. The Internet has no
Speaker 1: doubt revolutionized the way our world works today and changed
Speaker 1: our daily lives. I like to call the Internet the
Speaker 1: information super Highway. That's a phrase I invented myself last
Speaker 1: night as I was preparing research for this podcast. I
Speaker 1: had to do all the research myself because Carolina didn't
Speaker 1: fax any notes to me like I asked her to.
Speaker 1: I there are. There are so many things wrong with
Speaker 1: what you just said. There's so many factual errors. I
Speaker 1: just and you know what I did, fax you the
Speaker 1: notes for today's show. You did, Yeah, well maybe I
Speaker 1: was out of fax paper. Ron. You really need to
Speaker 1: stop using that old fax machine that takes the curly
Speaker 1: paper that rolls up the ink gets all over your fingers.
Speaker 1: I've offered numerous times to get you something more modern. Hey,
Speaker 1: if it ain't broke, don't fit it. But that that's
Speaker 1: the point it is, it's very broken. Well, whatever the
Speaker 1: point is, I think we can all agree on one thing.
Speaker 1: The Internet is here to stay, right sure, yeah, I
Speaker 1: will not going anywhere. However, it's never been more dangerous.
Speaker 1: I don't like to contribute to the culture of fear,
Speaker 1: but the Internet is truly terrifying right now. Look at
Speaker 1: your children. They aren't safe, the elderly or at constant risk.
Speaker 1: And if you're going to use the Internet, you must
Speaker 1: take extreme caution. And that's why I'm so glad to
Speaker 1: have our guests today. His name is Richard Greenberg, and
Speaker 1: he's what's referred to as a cyber security expert, so
Speaker 1: he knows all the ins and outs of the mercurial intranet.
Speaker 1: It's going to be fascinating. It doesn't have to sound
Speaker 1: so spooky to crack open his skull and figure out
Speaker 1: what swimming around and there right, Yeah, I'll be a
Speaker 1: basic interview. Crack that thing open with a ball peen
Speaker 1: hammer and pull out all the goop. No, but I
Speaker 1: mean metaphorically sure, it just sounds. On the other side
Speaker 1: of this wall is Richard Greenberg. It's yeah, he's waiting
Speaker 1: to just come to cyber security X. Let's make it
Speaker 1: sound more warm and professional. Man, he knows it all.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back with our cyber security expert right
Speaker 1: after this commercial break, and welcome back to the Ron
Speaker 1: Burgundy Podcast. Is Ron Burgundy and we are joined right
Speaker 1: now by our cyber are security expert, uh, Richard Greenberg. Richard,
Speaker 1: thank you for for joining us here on the podcast.
Speaker 1: My pleasure. Thanks for inviting me. Richard. Can I call
Speaker 1: you Dick? Do you go by Dick Greenberg? The last
Speaker 1: person that did that had an unfortunate accident. Okay, but
Speaker 1: you can call me whatever you are now, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: call you Richard. I'm gonna I'm not gonna mess around
Speaker 1: with that stuff. Um Let me just start off by saying,
Speaker 1: what is a cyber security expert? For those listening, Well,
Speaker 1: we all know that the hackers are looking to get
Speaker 1: all of our data everywhere. Who are the hackers? Is
Speaker 1: that a musical group? Well, there are good hackers and
Speaker 1: bad hackers. We call them white hat and black hat.
Speaker 1: Whoa okay, yeah, here we go. So the white hat
Speaker 1: hackers are the guys that look for vulnerabilities to try
Speaker 1: to help us identify where we're weak and what we
Speaker 1: could fix. The black hat hackers, the criminals, are the
Speaker 1: real ones who they want to get the good stuff.
Speaker 1: They're in a Stonier, in Russia and China, in a
Speaker 1: variety of different places, and they're trying to get our
Speaker 1: data because it's monetized. Every piece of information, credit card
Speaker 1: and social security, medical records has a value on the
Speaker 1: doc market. So you're a cyber security expert. Um, do
Speaker 1: you carry a badge and a gun? Nope, that would
Speaker 1: be a physical security expert because it seems like you
Speaker 1: should have a badge and a gun with you at
Speaker 1: all times. You know, it's hard to shoot the internet.
Speaker 1: That's the problem because you're dealing with cyber criminals, but
Speaker 1: you're not seeing them. Yeah, they're kind of and we
Speaker 1: call on in their in virtual space. Have you ever,
Speaker 1: by chance met one of these cyber criminals and like
Speaker 1: remembered their handle and been like, wait a minute, your
Speaker 1: soccer girl. Yeah, you look familiar to me, soccer girl
Speaker 1: twenty three. I haven't done that the other out there, though.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about passwords. I know those are important, right, Um,
Speaker 1: And of course I'm not talking about the old game
Speaker 1: show password. I was actually up to host that show,
Speaker 1: but but they went with a real lightweight instead. Um,
Speaker 1: we don't need to get on that tangent. But I'm talking.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the passwords you use for security purposes. Now,
Speaker 1: for myself, I just used the same password for everything
Speaker 1: in my life. Is that the right thing to do?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. And as a matter of fact, tell me
Speaker 1: what it is and let's discuss it. I'm happy to
Speaker 1: It is eight oh oh eight five, which you know.
Speaker 1: You know how I got that well, because if you
Speaker 1: type that into a calculator and you turn it upside
Speaker 1: down as spells boobs. Okay, so hilarious. Would you consider
Speaker 1: that a safe password? It's easy to remember, right, that's it.
Speaker 1: That's the good part. Yes, The bad part is that
Speaker 1: the black hat hackers now share tools, and they have
Speaker 1: ways where they can run scripts and computers and try thousands,
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands, if you will, password combinations, just random letters,
Speaker 1: and they would crack your password in about three seconds. No,
Speaker 1: I might take a minute, depends. Well I'll take that.
Speaker 1: I'll take those chances. Yeah, so you're saying it's not
Speaker 1: a safe password, not at all. And also you really
Speaker 1: can't have the same password in all your accounts because
Speaker 1: if one is broken, it's everything. It's curtains. As they say,
Speaker 1: they have the keys to your city. And I said
Speaker 1: it on the air here too. No, there's no way
Speaker 1: that boobe could still work. You know what, it's locked in.
Speaker 1: It's locked into the old noggin. So do you want
Speaker 1: to take a minute and go change it? What would
Speaker 1: beat some other good passwords? Well we don't want to
Speaker 1: say those either, boobies. So one of the I can
Speaker 1: give you some advice please to help formulate one. And
Speaker 1: this is you know, blobes. Now what you could do
Speaker 1: better than a password? Oh cheechee, those are just words,
Speaker 1: so ron better than a password that means certain things.
Speaker 1: Oh but Zoomba's I'm sorry, Richard. Go ahead, that's okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Richard. I see he's focused. Five passwords, ready
Speaker 1: to go? Okay, Yes, consider a pass phrase. So a
Speaker 1: combination of words such as ron burgundy is super duper.
Speaker 1: That's pretty long. Oh well maybe ron burgundy is super duper.
Speaker 1: You might remember that. Yeah, sure, remember that. So that's
Speaker 1: a combination of letters that would be hard for a
Speaker 1: computer to crackers. There's so many digits. Somebody, and then
Speaker 1: add some numbers on top of it. That would be good.
Speaker 1: But make sure you can remember those numbers. So like
Speaker 1: ron burgundy is super duper. Okay, there you go. I
Speaker 1: think I got my new my new password. Okay, but
Speaker 1: don't tell anybody. Okay, So don't use that one. That
Speaker 1: was just an hypothetical exactly. Really don't use it. But
Speaker 1: don't use it. I can't think of another good one.
Speaker 1: I'll probably use that one. Let me ask you about
Speaker 1: the dark web. What is the dark web. It's the
Speaker 1: place where the black hat hackers operate. That's where they live. Yes,
Speaker 1: they're they're there. They're deadly, and they want your stuff.
Speaker 1: And you can buy illegal narcotics and weapons on the
Speaker 1: dark web by anything you want. Really. Yeah, So hypothetically,
Speaker 1: if I wanted to access the dark web, and by
Speaker 1: let's say this is purely a hypothetical situation, qui ludes?
Speaker 1: Would you, Richard, would you be able to show me
Speaker 1: how to buy kuludes on the dark web? Qui lude
Speaker 1: still for sale? I don't know greenies? Greenies are amphetamines?
Speaker 1: Never mind, well they might replaced those with more effective drugs. Okay,
Speaker 1: man demand, we'll cut this out of the podcast. Richard,
Speaker 1: can you give me some qui ludes regardless of whether
Speaker 1: it's with the Dark Web or not. Now that would
Speaker 1: kind of compromise my position. I appreciate your honesty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate your honest but I can understand the sense
Speaker 1: a lot of people in my statue would say, sure, Ron,
Speaker 1: I'll get you whatever you want. Thank you. Okay, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I can't help you, being a man of your word
Speaker 1: and integrity. Um, so, okay, I'll just have to go
Speaker 1: somewhere else. Hypothetically. So, I've heard all about the cyber bullying,
Speaker 1: right and and to my understanding, it's when you when
Speaker 1: you post something to the Internet and that that someone
Speaker 1: doesn't like, and that person will actually drive over to
Speaker 1: your house and punch you right in the face. Is
Speaker 1: how do we protect ourselves against cyber bullies. Cyber bullies
Speaker 1: act out of immaturity or insecurity, or variety of other
Speaker 1: psychological things. It's the same thing in the real world. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, when I was a kid, I got beat
Speaker 1: up by a bully, and I'm sure are lots of
Speaker 1: people listening had the same experience. It's no different. It's
Speaker 1: only online. The problem with online it's one everybody can
Speaker 1: hear it and see it, and it's forever. Can't withdraw
Speaker 1: anything that's on the internet, So not just two or
Speaker 1: three people standing around see or hear it. Everyone and
Speaker 1: everyone's social network will see it. You know what else
Speaker 1: is for forever? The diamond diamonds are forever. Let's move on,
Speaker 1: Kay Jeweler's um robots, but they are friends, our enemies.
Speaker 1: We'll just put it out there. So there's something called
Speaker 1: AI artificial intelligence that are built in which makes robots
Speaker 1: and other types of think for themselves more or less.
Speaker 1: They learn and they adapt right, and so the future
Speaker 1: is unknown what these can do? Uh. There there is
Speaker 1: there's no use today really in cybersecurity. But I think
Speaker 1: down the road they will be. So how do we
Speaker 1: keep a lid on this? How do we make sure
Speaker 1: that the robots, you know, don't John Connor us it's
Speaker 1: a good question. That's more of a political question reference
Speaker 1: to the movie Terminator. Yes, there are reports that Alex
Speaker 1: says the Amazon tool we're laughing at their own and
Speaker 1: basically scoffing at them. Is that something to worry about.
Speaker 1: I had a girlfriend named Alexa. She used to laugh
Speaker 1: at me. I'm sorry. I would tell her my secrets
Speaker 1: and you know what I wanted from the supermarket, and
Speaker 1: she would just laugh. That's Richard. Did you ever know
Speaker 1: an Alexa your childhood? No, I haven't. I'm sorry for
Speaker 1: your that's a story there. What were your secrets and
Speaker 1: your supermarket suggestions? Well, I would just daydream around the
Speaker 1: house and say, oh, I'd like three extra large T shirts, Um,
Speaker 1: a dozen bananas, you know, some new sheets. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: It was probably an interesting couple. It was. We were
Speaker 1: great to entrick party guests. And you know what her
Speaker 1: password was? Movies On the weekends, Richard, I like to
Speaker 1: mess around with my CB equipment. Um, you know, I
Speaker 1: have one in my truck. Uh, and I just drive
Speaker 1: around for hours talking to my pals. I've got the Muskrat, Howler,
Speaker 1: dan Zoid, Gruving, Gary, all good buddies in my convoy.
Speaker 1: And if if you're ever out on the road, my
Speaker 1: handle is frog Penis. Uh. That's a long it's a long,
Speaker 1: funny story. I don't have time to get into anyway.
Speaker 1: Is my CB radio safe from hackers? CB is open
Speaker 1: so anybody can get on it, but there's not a
Speaker 1: whole lot you can do with it unless it's connected
Speaker 1: to one of your networks internally, which is most likely
Speaker 1: not the case. Some people are have actually done that.
Speaker 1: But if send your truck or your vehicle, then it's
Speaker 1: contained Roger that. Yeah, I'll tell you Richard. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: can be a real ratchet, real ratchet John there. I'll
Speaker 1: be talking to Claw Humper, buzz Ball and Dr Nathaniel
Speaker 1: Fernald doing double nickels on the dimes and and hey, muskrat,
Speaker 1: what's your twenty next thing? You know? I got some
Speaker 1: Mama bear on my donkey. Okay, this is a cyber
Speaker 1: security expert. He doesn't work with CB radios. And I've
Speaker 1: told you before not everyone understands CBE radio LINGO. Come on, Carolina,
Speaker 1: quit acting like a lot lizard. Okay, you teld me
Speaker 1: that a lot lizard is CB radio lingle for prostitute,
Speaker 1: and it is absolutely not okay to call me that.
Speaker 1: It also doesn't make any sense in this context. Ten four.
Speaker 1: That was out a line. I apologize, Richard gets it though.
Speaker 1: Ten four, ten four. See, I'm just glad internet hackers
Speaker 1: can't mess with my CB radio. That's that's a relief. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that is an open line of communications. So watch
Speaker 1: what you say or not. Yeah. So I don't want
Speaker 1: to get too political on this show, but as a
Speaker 1: cyber security expert, would you know how to set up
Speaker 1: something like stealing a presidential election in theory? Yes? Okay,
Speaker 1: what about an election to a co op board? Because
Speaker 1: I'm having a real hard time with my condo and
Speaker 1: I could I could use some help. Well, maybe you
Speaker 1: should talk to the people that might be a better approach. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just saying is this a money question? Because I don't
Speaker 1: mind kicking in some scratch my friend. No, that's all right,
Speaker 1: condo board, if you're listening, we've got a black hat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gott I just bought myself a new black hat.
Speaker 1: There are times when I'm visiting certain websites. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get into this delicately. Let's just say of an erotic nature,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I'll get a million boxes
Speaker 1: popping up on my screen. One time, I got so
Speaker 1: frustrated I ended up throwing my computer out of the
Speaker 1: window of my den and it landed on my neighbor's
Speaker 1: bacat and she was pretty sore about it. Any solutions
Speaker 1: to that problem, yeah, I get the really strong tempered
Speaker 1: glass windows. I didn't even think of that. That's that's
Speaker 1: a handy salute. Yeah. But the other thing you can
Speaker 1: do also is, you know, be careful when you go
Speaker 1: to the internet. There are certain applications you can download.
Speaker 1: They're called sandboxes, where they isolate the rest of your
Speaker 1: computer from where you're going on the internet. Some people
Speaker 1: use them for banking that you could use them for
Speaker 1: the areas you were discussing as well. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: erotic art. I look at that's what that's honestly looking
Speaker 1: at erotic art. Christie's auction house online pop ups. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: he appreciates beautiful things in life. I guess Christie's a
Speaker 1: spelled k R y s t y s x X
Speaker 1: x um, let's talk about the terms and conditions that
Speaker 1: we'll see. Uh, you know that we all have to
Speaker 1: sign when we go on to a certain thing. Now,
Speaker 1: I actually take the time to read every single word
Speaker 1: and then I sent it to my lawyer and they
Speaker 1: we go back and forth. He makes changes and and
Speaker 1: it you know, it takes forever, but I think it's
Speaker 1: worth it. Um. In general, do you think people should
Speaker 1: be more careful with the terms and conditions on the Internet? Okay,
Speaker 1: So I would advise that people not waste their time
Speaker 1: with that, because basically all the internet providers are saying
Speaker 1: is we might get your stuff and we're happy and
Speaker 1: thank you, and we might sell it. And that's the
Speaker 1: unfortunate part. Well, now now there is rules in the
Speaker 1: European Union and they might come our way, which affords
Speaker 1: all of us a bit more control of our own
Speaker 1: personal data. So, but my attorney charges me hourly, So
Speaker 1: when he's making all those changes and sending it back
Speaker 1: to the side, they're not listening. They're not taking any
Speaker 1: of it. I think they're filing it in the the
Speaker 1: oval file cabinet. So you're saying it's a waste of time. Yeah, However,
Speaker 1: as long as we're on this subjecting the notice as
Speaker 1: we get when we download apps where they want access
Speaker 1: to your camera, they want acces, those are the ones yes, no,
Speaker 1: those are the ones you want to question and if
Speaker 1: you have the ability, because some of the apps won't
Speaker 1: work unless you say yes, others might and you can
Speaker 1: say no, I just want to give you the access
Speaker 1: to what you need. Well, then why are we using
Speaker 1: all this mumbo jumbo if all they want to do
Speaker 1: is collect our data because it's convenient and it's fun. Right,
Speaker 1: It's a trade off. It is a it's a real
Speaker 1: trade off. And now alex is listening to us, not
Speaker 1: your girlfriend, but the computer label Richard. What's your first
Speaker 1: memory with a computer? You know, were you a little
Speaker 1: boy sitting in front of a computer and just saying, yep,
Speaker 1: this is what I want to do with the rest
Speaker 1: of my life. And I will lose my virginity or
Speaker 1: I won't, it doesn't matter. I love computers. Now I
Speaker 1: learned when there were main frames before the PCs. What's
Speaker 1: the main frame? Main frame is a big old computer
Speaker 1: taking up a huge space the large room. Oh like
Speaker 1: the IBM mainframes? There you go, yes, right, do you
Speaker 1: remember the old computer Commodore. Yes, the Commodore Commodore. Right,
Speaker 1: those are coming back, right. I don't think you would
Speaker 1: see those other than people with nostalgia just want to
Speaker 1: have them around. And what do you think is past
Speaker 1: the iPhone? So what do you think is the next? Oh,
Speaker 1: that's a great question. Is it VR? Is it? What
Speaker 1: is the next? Well, I don't know. I think at
Speaker 1: some point people will elect to have the chip implanted.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well, people are getting chips installed now
Speaker 1: to protect themselves from kidnapping and a variety whether they
Speaker 1: hit their political in the office and certain questionable countries,
Speaker 1: the technologies there. I I paid for a chip to
Speaker 1: be implanted because you got lost one time. Did it help? Well,
Speaker 1: it turns out it was a hundred dollar poker chip. Um,
Speaker 1: so it did nothing. The guy ripped me off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because now when you're lost, they still there's your lost.
Speaker 1: Well also too, it's horribly infected. Find me note to self,
Speaker 1: have poker chip removed removed from neck from neck. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Steve Jobs. Pretty cool guy, right, Many people say yes.
Speaker 1: Some people say he was a little bit too intense
Speaker 1: tough to work with. He invented the Macintosh, the iPhone.
Speaker 1: But a lot of people don't know this. He invented
Speaker 1: Mr microphone. Do you remember that? It was a toy
Speaker 1: microphone that you could hook up to your radio and
Speaker 1: it would broadcast your voice. So very cool. Steve Jobs
Speaker 1: a true pioneer. I don't think Steve Jobs invented the
Speaker 1: Mr microphone. Well, whoever did gets my utmost respect the
Speaker 1: inventor of Mr microphone? Is that how you got started
Speaker 1: in in this? You know, I got started by just
Speaker 1: hanging around outside of news stations. And that was back
Speaker 1: in the day where you could just walk in and
Speaker 1: you know, have a good head of hair and firm
Speaker 1: handshake and get put on the air in a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. So it's really changed. Um, but thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you for asking, Richard, have you ever invented anything? Uh? Now?
Speaker 1: Just better ways to work more efficiently. I brought up
Speaker 1: robots before, and I think I think you you had
Speaker 1: some good insight to that. But I'd be remiss if
Speaker 1: I didn't ask sex robots. How close are we? I
Speaker 1: think they're there? WHOA, Well, I know where I can
Speaker 1: find him. So maybe you don't need to get the
Speaker 1: tempered glass after all. I'll just look them up on
Speaker 1: Christie's hard Auction website. Anyway, Richard, I think we are
Speaker 1: officially out of time. I'm officially out of questions here.
Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for joining our podcast. Thank
Speaker 1: you for your your excellentes. Uh Caroline, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you the keys to my truck and if you could
Speaker 1: pull it up front, that would be terrific. But don't
Speaker 1: touch my CB radio. Okay, do not get on there
Speaker 1: and open your mouth. We will be an embarrassment in
Speaker 1: front of my trucker buddies. Uh. Richard, thank you again
Speaker 1: for coming on the Ron Burgundy Podcast. I think you've
Speaker 1: informed a lot of people about how to be safe
Speaker 1: out there. Definitely, don't forget change that password. Well, no,
Speaker 1: I've already got it burned in my brain. What Ron
Speaker 1: Burgundy is a super sexy guy or something like that.
Speaker 1: We'll figure it out later, all right, We'll be right
Speaker 1: back with a Ron Burgundy podcast after this, and we
Speaker 1: are back Ron Burgundy podcast. Uh Carolina. Yeah, I kept
Speaker 1: thinking what Richard said about the white hats and the
Speaker 1: black hats. I mean, what would you rather be a
Speaker 1: white hat or a black hat? A white hat, of course,
Speaker 1: it's the person protecting our information, protecting our data. But
Speaker 1: you're not intrigued a little bit about the dark internet
Speaker 1: and a black hat. You have a lot of power,
Speaker 1: a lot of prestige. No, that's sort of the question
Speaker 1: between good and evil, right, Yeah, so I want to
Speaker 1: be good? What do you want to be? I want
Speaker 1: to be a white hat too. Okay, good, Okay, you
Speaker 1: don't have to look at me like that. I'm just curious. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, though, black hat, no, white hat. Yes,
Speaker 1: I want to be a white hat too. I wonder
Speaker 1: if they're gray hats though, we're sort of like a
Speaker 1: light charcoal gray hat. Beautiful, Yes, felt a feather in it,
Speaker 1: a feather in it. It's like, is he or she
Speaker 1: good or bad? Oh? The charcoal gray hat? You don't know? Well,
Speaker 1: I can put that on the list of potential screenplays
Speaker 1: that you asked me. Yes, perfect, thank you. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: get an outline going on that, got it? Because I'm
Speaker 1: going to start writing Hollywood movies. We've we've talked about this.
Speaker 1: That's my goal for this new season, and at some
Speaker 1: point we will have a stage reading on the podcast
Speaker 1: of my manuscript I've written. I can't wait for that.
Speaker 1: We are going to do that. By the way. One
Speaker 1: other thing about Richard, I mean, boy, he was not
Speaker 1: happy when I when I asked him if I could
Speaker 1: call him dick, and he said the last time he
Speaker 1: called I mean, that was spooky, that was aggressive. They
Speaker 1: were in a terrible accident. And did you notice, did you?
Speaker 1: I didn't notice it until the end of the interview.
Speaker 1: But he in his right hand, he put his hand
Speaker 1: on top of the table and he had brass knuckles.
Speaker 1: What does that mean? I mean, he had old fashioned
Speaker 1: brass knuckles. Why would he's a cyber s I know
Speaker 1: it makes no sense. Well, he might be a killer.
Speaker 1: We don't know that. We cannot can't say that on air.
Speaker 1: You're right, However, I did know if he were to
Speaker 1: leap across the table and try to punch me with
Speaker 1: the brass knuckles, I was going to cushion the blow
Speaker 1: with your face. I don't But isn't that great? I
Speaker 1: was already thinking ahead of time that I would use
Speaker 1: you as a human shield because I would have gotten
Speaker 1: pummeled and you would have been fine. But that's why
Speaker 1: I respect you so much. You're selfless. White hat attitude prevails.
Speaker 1: I don't know That's what I meant when I said
Speaker 1: I want to be a white hat. So so are
Speaker 1: you thinking you want to be a black hat? I
Speaker 1: don't want to go down for a black hat. Luke,
Speaker 1: I'm your father exactly. Remember what that was from Star Wars?
Speaker 1: I couldn't remember Star Wars or Raiders in the Last Dark.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. Let's follow up with Richard though, and Seapie
Speaker 1: really can't give me some coludes? Okay, well, we'll catch
Speaker 1: you next Thursday. On The Ron Burgundy Podcast. This is
Speaker 1: Ron Burgundy saying, until next time, don't be a black hat.
Speaker 1: The Ron Burgundy Podcast is a production of I Heart
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Speaker 1: and executive producer. Carolina Barlow is my co host, writer
Speaker 1: and producer. Our producers are Jack O'Brien, Nick Stump, Miles Gray,
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