WEBVTT - Cyber Security 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:14.520 Who's that man talking in my Ron Burgundy? Hello, this 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:19.040 is Ron Burgundy and you guessed it. Welcome to the 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:24.200 Ron Burgundy Podcast. I am, of course, joined by Carolina. Carolina. 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:27.200 How are you? Um? I'm good? Actually think you great? 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:29.760 You look very pretty today. I'm just going to say 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:35.560 what really? Yes, you've literally never said anything complimentary about Hila. 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:38.839 I got eighteen hours of sleep last night, so I 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:44.240 feel very refreshed. Um. Today's show is is quite fascinating. 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:48.640 We are going to be talking about the Internet. And 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:51.600 the Internet, for those of you who don't know, was 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.440 originally created by the U. S. Military as a way 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:58.200 for members of our armed forces to trade baking recipes 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:02.520 with each other. M interesting since that first computer was 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:06.200 connected to another computer by Alexander Graham Bell all the 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.959 way back in two thousand four. The Internet has no 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:14.160 doubt revolutionized the way our world works today and changed 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:18.200 our daily lives. I like to call the Internet the 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:22.040 information super Highway. That's a phrase I invented myself last 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:26.040 night as I was preparing research for this podcast. I 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:29.240 had to do all the research myself because Carolina didn't 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:32.000 fax any notes to me like I asked her to. 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.759 I there are. There are so many things wrong with 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.840 what you just said. There's so many factual errors. I 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.080 just and you know what I did, fax you the 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:45.959 notes for today's show. You did, Yeah, well maybe I 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:48.920 was out of fax paper. Ron. You really need to 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.400 stop using that old fax machine that takes the curly 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:55.040 paper that rolls up the ink gets all over your fingers. 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:58.400 I've offered numerous times to get you something more modern. Hey, 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:01.120 if it ain't broke, don't fit it. But that that's 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:03.640 the point it is, it's very broken. Well, whatever the 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.520 point is, I think we can all agree on one thing. 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:11.040 The Internet is here to stay, right sure, yeah, I 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:17.639 will not going anywhere. However, it's never been more dangerous. 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:20.560 I don't like to contribute to the culture of fear, 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:25.640 but the Internet is truly terrifying right now. Look at 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:30.119 your children. They aren't safe, the elderly or at constant risk. 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.680 And if you're going to use the Internet, you must 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:37.960 take extreme caution. And that's why I'm so glad to 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:42.320 have our guests today. His name is Richard Greenberg, and 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:47.840 he's what's referred to as a cyber security expert, so 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:53.519 he knows all the ins and outs of the mercurial intranet. 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:56.720 It's going to be fascinating. It doesn't have to sound 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.839 so spooky to crack open his skull and figure out 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:03.480 what swimming around and there right, Yeah, I'll be a 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:06.200 basic interview. Crack that thing open with a ball peen 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:10.320 hammer and pull out all the goop. No, but I 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:16.200 mean metaphorically sure, it just sounds. On the other side 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:21.720 of this wall is Richard Greenberg. It's yeah, he's waiting 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:24.800 to just come to cyber security X. Let's make it 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:36.600 sound more warm and professional. Man, he knows it all. 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:40.680 We'll be right back with our cyber security expert right 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:53.880 after this commercial break, and welcome back to the Ron 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:58.400 Burgundy Podcast. Is Ron Burgundy and we are joined right 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:03.760 now by our cyber are security expert, uh, Richard Greenberg. Richard, 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:06.520 thank you for for joining us here on the podcast. 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:08.840 My pleasure. Thanks for inviting me. Richard. Can I call 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.680 you Dick? Do you go by Dick Greenberg? The last 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:15.160 person that did that had an unfortunate accident. Okay, but 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:17.279 you can call me whatever you are now, I'm gonna 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:19.720 call you Richard. I'm gonna I'm not gonna mess around 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:23.160 with that stuff. Um Let me just start off by saying, 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.920 what is a cyber security expert? For those listening, Well, 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.480 we all know that the hackers are looking to get 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.640 all of our data everywhere. Who are the hackers? Is 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:35.479 that a musical group? Well, there are good hackers and 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.200 bad hackers. We call them white hat and black hat. 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.320 Whoa okay, yeah, here we go. So the white hat 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.560 hackers are the guys that look for vulnerabilities to try 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:47.039 to help us identify where we're weak and what we 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:51.200 could fix. The black hat hackers, the criminals, are the 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:53.359 real ones who they want to get the good stuff. 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.280 They're in a Stonier, in Russia and China, in a 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.880 variety of different places, and they're trying to get our 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:01.960 data because it's monetized. Every piece of information, credit card 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:05.120 and social security, medical records has a value on the 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:10.600 doc market. So you're a cyber security expert. Um, do 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.880 you carry a badge and a gun? Nope, that would 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.880 be a physical security expert because it seems like you 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:18.680 should have a badge and a gun with you at 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:20.960 all times. You know, it's hard to shoot the internet. 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.839 That's the problem because you're dealing with cyber criminals, but 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.640 you're not seeing them. Yeah, they're kind of and we 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:28.640 call on in their in virtual space. Have you ever, 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.080 by chance met one of these cyber criminals and like 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:34.080 remembered their handle and been like, wait a minute, your 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.279 soccer girl. Yeah, you look familiar to me, soccer girl 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:40.600 twenty three. I haven't done that the other out there, though. 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:46.039 Let's talk about passwords. I know those are important, right, Um, 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:49.040 And of course I'm not talking about the old game 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:54.040 show password. I was actually up to host that show, 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:58.000 but but they went with a real lightweight instead. Um, 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:01.159 we don't need to get on that tangent. But I'm talking. 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:06.000 I'm talking about the passwords you use for security purposes. Now, 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:10.360 for myself, I just used the same password for everything 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:13.200 in my life. Is that the right thing to do? 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:16.640 Absolutely not. And as a matter of fact, tell me 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:18.719 what it is and let's discuss it. I'm happy to 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:23.960 It is eight oh oh eight five, which you know. 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.240 You know how I got that well, because if you 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.480 type that into a calculator and you turn it upside 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:35.880 down as spells boobs. Okay, so hilarious. Would you consider 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.960 that a safe password? It's easy to remember, right, that's it. 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.760 That's the good part. Yes, The bad part is that 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:46.040 the black hat hackers now share tools, and they have 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:52.120 ways where they can run scripts and computers and try thousands, 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:56.159 hundreds of thousands, if you will, password combinations, just random letters, 0:06:56.160 --> 0:07:00.080 and they would crack your password in about three seconds. No, 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.160 I might take a minute, depends. Well I'll take that. 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:07.640 I'll take those chances. Yeah, so you're saying it's not 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:11.200 a safe password, not at all. And also you really 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.200 can't have the same password in all your accounts because 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:18.680 if one is broken, it's everything. It's curtains. As they say, 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:21.080 they have the keys to your city. And I said 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.600 it on the air here too. No, there's no way 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.920 that boobe could still work. You know what, it's locked in. 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.040 It's locked into the old noggin. So do you want 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:32.040 to take a minute and go change it? What would 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:34.280 beat some other good passwords? Well we don't want to 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.720 say those either, boobies. So one of the I can 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:41.240 give you some advice please to help formulate one. And 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.040 this is you know, blobes. Now what you could do 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:49.200 better than a password? Oh cheechee, those are just words, 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:52.520 so ron better than a password that means certain things. 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:57.280 Oh but Zoomba's I'm sorry, Richard. Go ahead, that's okay, 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:01.160 I'm sorry, Richard. I see he's focused. Five passwords, ready 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:06.240 to go? Okay, Yes, consider a pass phrase. So a 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:10.680 combination of words such as ron burgundy is super duper. 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:16.440 That's pretty long. Oh well maybe ron burgundy is super duper. 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:20.440 You might remember that. Yeah, sure, remember that. So that's 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:22.520 a combination of letters that would be hard for a 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.840 computer to crackers. There's so many digits. Somebody, and then 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.280 add some numbers on top of it. That would be good. 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:30.360 But make sure you can remember those numbers. So like 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:35.520 ron burgundy is super duper. Okay, there you go. I 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:38.640 think I got my new my new password. Okay, but 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:41.320 don't tell anybody. Okay, So don't use that one. That 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:45.200 was just an hypothetical exactly. Really don't use it. But 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.080 don't use it. I can't think of another good one. 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.720 I'll probably use that one. Let me ask you about 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:54.320 the dark web. What is the dark web. It's the 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:58.360 place where the black hat hackers operate. That's where they live. Yes, 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:03.360 they're they're there. They're deadly, and they want your stuff. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.400 And you can buy illegal narcotics and weapons on the 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:11.800 dark web by anything you want. Really. Yeah, So hypothetically, 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:16.840 if I wanted to access the dark web, and by 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:21.200 let's say this is purely a hypothetical situation, qui ludes? 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.160 Would you, Richard, would you be able to show me 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.960 how to buy kuludes on the dark web? Qui lude 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:34.640 still for sale? I don't know greenies? Greenies are amphetamines? 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:39.240 Never mind, well they might replaced those with more effective drugs. Okay, 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:41.920 man demand, we'll cut this out of the podcast. Richard, 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.400 can you give me some qui ludes regardless of whether 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:46.840 it's with the Dark Web or not. Now that would 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:50.960 kind of compromise my position. I appreciate your honesty. Yeah, 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:52.959 I appreciate your honest but I can understand the sense 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:54.920 a lot of people in my statue would say, sure, Ron, 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.680 I'll get you whatever you want. Thank you. Okay, I'm sorry, 0:09:57.679 --> 0:09:59.240 I can't help you, being a man of your word 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:03.440 and integrity. Um, so, okay, I'll just have to go 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:10.400 somewhere else. Hypothetically. So, I've heard all about the cyber bullying, 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:14.360 right and and to my understanding, it's when you when 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:18.559 you post something to the Internet and that that someone 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.840 doesn't like, and that person will actually drive over to 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.880 your house and punch you right in the face. Is 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:29.840 how do we protect ourselves against cyber bullies. Cyber bullies 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:34.600 act out of immaturity or insecurity, or variety of other 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:38.320 psychological things. It's the same thing in the real world. Um. 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.600 You know, when I was a kid, I got beat 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.319 up by a bully, and I'm sure are lots of 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:46.480 people listening had the same experience. It's no different. It's 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:49.920 only online. The problem with online it's one everybody can 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:53.120 hear it and see it, and it's forever. Can't withdraw 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:56.959 anything that's on the internet, So not just two or 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:00.599 three people standing around see or hear it. Everyone and 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:02.600 everyone's social network will see it. You know what else 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:09.439 is for forever? The diamond diamonds are forever. Let's move on, 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:17.080 Kay Jeweler's um robots, but they are friends, our enemies. 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.560 We'll just put it out there. So there's something called 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:24.520 AI artificial intelligence that are built in which makes robots 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:27.560 and other types of think for themselves more or less. 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:31.559 They learn and they adapt right, and so the future 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.679 is unknown what these can do? Uh. There there is 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:39.600 there's no use today really in cybersecurity. But I think 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:41.679 down the road they will be. So how do we 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:43.880 keep a lid on this? How do we make sure 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:48.920 that the robots, you know, don't John Connor us it's 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.760 a good question. That's more of a political question reference 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:55.800 to the movie Terminator. Yes, there are reports that Alex 0:11:55.840 --> 0:12:00.559 says the Amazon tool we're laughing at their own and 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:05.560 basically scoffing at them. Is that something to worry about. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.080 I had a girlfriend named Alexa. She used to laugh 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:12.880 at me. I'm sorry. I would tell her my secrets 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:17.880 and you know what I wanted from the supermarket, and 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:22.760 she would just laugh. That's Richard. Did you ever know 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:27.480 an Alexa your childhood? No, I haven't. I'm sorry for 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:31.839 your that's a story there. What were your secrets and 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:36.439 your supermarket suggestions? Well, I would just daydream around the 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:41.920 house and say, oh, I'd like three extra large T shirts, Um, 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:48.720 a dozen bananas, you know, some new sheets. Oh yeah. 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.200 It was probably an interesting couple. It was. We were 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.920 great to entrick party guests. And you know what her 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:59.959 password was? Movies On the weekends, Richard, I like to 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.880 mess around with my CB equipment. Um, you know, I 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.280 have one in my truck. Uh, and I just drive 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:10.520 around for hours talking to my pals. I've got the Muskrat, Howler, 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:15.320 dan Zoid, Gruving, Gary, all good buddies in my convoy. 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:18.160 And if if you're ever out on the road, my 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:22.000 handle is frog Penis. Uh. That's a long it's a long, 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.200 funny story. I don't have time to get into anyway. 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:29.280 Is my CB radio safe from hackers? CB is open 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:32.120 so anybody can get on it, but there's not a 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.360 whole lot you can do with it unless it's connected 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:38.160 to one of your networks internally, which is most likely 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.400 not the case. Some people are have actually done that. 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.600 But if send your truck or your vehicle, then it's 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:47.439 contained Roger that. Yeah, I'll tell you Richard. Sometimes I 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:52.040 can be a real ratchet, real ratchet John there. I'll 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.800 be talking to Claw Humper, buzz Ball and Dr Nathaniel 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:58.600 Fernald doing double nickels on the dimes and and hey, muskrat, 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:00.439 what's your twenty next thing? You know? I got some 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.000 Mama bear on my donkey. Okay, this is a cyber 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.160 security expert. He doesn't work with CB radios. And I've 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:10.400 told you before not everyone understands CBE radio LINGO. Come on, Carolina, 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:12.719 quit acting like a lot lizard. Okay, you teld me 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.240 that a lot lizard is CB radio lingle for prostitute, 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.079 and it is absolutely not okay to call me that. 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.080 It also doesn't make any sense in this context. Ten four. 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.440 That was out a line. I apologize, Richard gets it though. 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:28.400 Ten four, ten four. See, I'm just glad internet hackers 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:32.280 can't mess with my CB radio. That's that's a relief. Yeah, 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:36.240 but that is an open line of communications. So watch 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:40.880 what you say or not. Yeah. So I don't want 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:43.680 to get too political on this show, but as a 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:48.120 cyber security expert, would you know how to set up 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:53.640 something like stealing a presidential election in theory? Yes? Okay, 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.720 what about an election to a co op board? Because 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.560 I'm having a real hard time with my condo and 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:04.800 I could I could use some help. Well, maybe you 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:08.480 should talk to the people that might be a better approach. Yeah, 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.640 just saying is this a money question? Because I don't 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:16.120 mind kicking in some scratch my friend. No, that's all right, 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:21.480 condo board, if you're listening, we've got a black hat. Yeah, 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:23.760 I gott I just bought myself a new black hat. 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:30.000 There are times when I'm visiting certain websites. I'm gonna 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.800 get into this delicately. Let's just say of an erotic nature, 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.240 and all of a sudden, I'll get a million boxes 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.320 popping up on my screen. One time, I got so 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.920 frustrated I ended up throwing my computer out of the 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.760 window of my den and it landed on my neighbor's 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:49.320 bacat and she was pretty sore about it. Any solutions 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:52.520 to that problem, yeah, I get the really strong tempered 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:59.280 glass windows. I didn't even think of that. That's that's 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.680 a handy salute. Yeah. But the other thing you can 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:05.280 do also is, you know, be careful when you go 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:09.760 to the internet. There are certain applications you can download. 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:13.320 They're called sandboxes, where they isolate the rest of your 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:17.400 computer from where you're going on the internet. Some people 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.640 use them for banking that you could use them for 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:23.840 the areas you were discussing as well. It's it's it's 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:29.960 erotic art. I look at that's what that's honestly looking 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:37.440 at erotic art. Christie's auction house online pop ups. All right, Well, 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:41.320 he appreciates beautiful things in life. I guess Christie's a 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:46.920 spelled k R y s t y s x X 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:53.800 x um, let's talk about the terms and conditions that 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:57.160 we'll see. Uh, you know that we all have to 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.440 sign when we go on to a certain thing. Now, 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:04.520 I actually take the time to read every single word 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:08.479 and then I sent it to my lawyer and they 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.800 we go back and forth. He makes changes and and 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:14.199 it you know, it takes forever, but I think it's 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:17.080 worth it. Um. In general, do you think people should 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:20.560 be more careful with the terms and conditions on the Internet? Okay, 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:24.040 So I would advise that people not waste their time 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:26.840 with that, because basically all the internet providers are saying 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:29.680 is we might get your stuff and we're happy and 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.040 thank you, and we might sell it. And that's the 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.840 unfortunate part. Well, now now there is rules in the 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:39.360 European Union and they might come our way, which affords 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:41.560 all of us a bit more control of our own 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:46.200 personal data. So, but my attorney charges me hourly, So 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.639 when he's making all those changes and sending it back 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:50.880 to the side, they're not listening. They're not taking any 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:54.080 of it. I think they're filing it in the the 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:58.720 oval file cabinet. So you're saying it's a waste of time. Yeah, However, 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.520 as long as we're on this subjecting the notice as 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.159 we get when we download apps where they want access 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:07.639 to your camera, they want acces, those are the ones yes, no, 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.080 those are the ones you want to question and if 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.320 you have the ability, because some of the apps won't 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:14.480 work unless you say yes, others might and you can 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:16.040 say no, I just want to give you the access 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:18.200 to what you need. Well, then why are we using 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:20.480 all this mumbo jumbo if all they want to do 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.639 is collect our data because it's convenient and it's fun. Right, 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.840 It's a trade off. It is a it's a real 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:31.000 trade off. And now alex is listening to us, not 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:36.800 your girlfriend, but the computer label Richard. What's your first 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:41.240 memory with a computer? You know, were you a little 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.560 boy sitting in front of a computer and just saying, yep, 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:45.720 this is what I want to do with the rest 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:49.359 of my life. And I will lose my virginity or 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:53.000 I won't, it doesn't matter. I love computers. Now I 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:56.080 learned when there were main frames before the PCs. What's 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.560 the main frame? Main frame is a big old computer 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:01.560 taking up a huge space the large room. Oh like 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.359 the IBM mainframes? There you go, yes, right, do you 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:10.919 remember the old computer Commodore. Yes, the Commodore Commodore. Right, 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:13.160 those are coming back, right. I don't think you would 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:15.639 see those other than people with nostalgia just want to 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:17.879 have them around. And what do you think is past 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:20.560 the iPhone? So what do you think is the next? Oh, 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:23.080 that's a great question. Is it VR? Is it? What 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:25.719 is the next? Well, I don't know. I think at 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:28.200 some point people will elect to have the chip implanted. 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:30.800 Oh my god. Well, people are getting chips installed now 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:33.320 to protect themselves from kidnapping and a variety whether they 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:37.440 hit their political in the office and certain questionable countries, 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:40.920 the technologies there. I I paid for a chip to 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:45.160 be implanted because you got lost one time. Did it help? Well, 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:48.640 it turns out it was a hundred dollar poker chip. Um, 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:53.000 so it did nothing. The guy ripped me off. Yeah, 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:56.960 because now when you're lost, they still there's your lost. 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:00.960 Well also too, it's horribly infected. Find me note to self, 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:07.320 have poker chip removed removed from neck from neck. Thank you. 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:14.120 Steve Jobs. Pretty cool guy, right, Many people say yes. 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:16.560 Some people say he was a little bit too intense 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:20.960 tough to work with. He invented the Macintosh, the iPhone. 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:24.080 But a lot of people don't know this. He invented 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:27.760 Mr microphone. Do you remember that? It was a toy 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.280 microphone that you could hook up to your radio and 0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:34.040 it would broadcast your voice. So very cool. Steve Jobs 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.200 a true pioneer. I don't think Steve Jobs invented the 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:42.680 Mr microphone. Well, whoever did gets my utmost respect the 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.720 inventor of Mr microphone? Is that how you got started 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:50.280 in in this? You know, I got started by just 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:54.120 hanging around outside of news stations. And that was back 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:55.760 in the day where you could just walk in and 0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:59.000 you know, have a good head of hair and firm 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:01.400 handshake and get put on the air in a couple 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:06.440 of weeks. So it's really changed. Um, but thank you, 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:11.919 thank you for asking, Richard, have you ever invented anything? Uh? Now? 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:16.000 Just better ways to work more efficiently. I brought up 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:18.840 robots before, and I think I think you you had 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:22.440 some good insight to that. But I'd be remiss if 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:27.520 I didn't ask sex robots. How close are we? I 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:33.399 think they're there? WHOA, Well, I know where I can 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:35.119 find him. So maybe you don't need to get the 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:37.240 tempered glass after all. I'll just look them up on 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:43.760 Christie's hard Auction website. Anyway, Richard, I think we are 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.800 officially out of time. I'm officially out of questions here. 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:51.920 I can't thank you enough for joining our podcast. Thank 0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:55.959 you for your your excellentes. Uh Caroline, I'm gonna give 0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:57.440 you the keys to my truck and if you could 0:21:57.480 --> 0:21:59.800 pull it up front, that would be terrific. But don't 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:03.120 touch my CB radio. Okay, do not get on there 0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:06.280 and open your mouth. We will be an embarrassment in 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:10.000 front of my trucker buddies. Uh. Richard, thank you again 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:12.880 for coming on the Ron Burgundy Podcast. I think you've 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:15.080 informed a lot of people about how to be safe 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:19.080 out there. Definitely, don't forget change that password. Well, no, 0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:23.040 I've already got it burned in my brain. What Ron 0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:25.680 Burgundy is a super sexy guy or something like that. 0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:28.359 We'll figure it out later, all right, We'll be right 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:41.760 back with a Ron Burgundy podcast after this, and we 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:48.800 are back Ron Burgundy podcast. Uh Carolina. Yeah, I kept 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:52.440 thinking what Richard said about the white hats and the 0:22:52.520 --> 0:22:55.800 black hats. I mean, what would you rather be a 0:22:55.840 --> 0:23:00.480 white hat or a black hat? A white hat, of course, 0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:05.520 it's the person protecting our information, protecting our data. But 0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:08.880 you're not intrigued a little bit about the dark internet 0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:10.760 and a black hat. You have a lot of power, 0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:15.359 a lot of prestige. No, that's sort of the question 0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:20.359 between good and evil, right, Yeah, so I want to 0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:23.400 be good? What do you want to be? I want 0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:26.760 to be a white hat too. Okay, good, Okay, you 0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:29.080 don't have to look at me like that. I'm just curious. No, 0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:35.680 I'm just saying, though, black hat, no, white hat. Yes, 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:38.400 I want to be a white hat too. I wonder 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:41.520 if they're gray hats though, we're sort of like a 0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:46.399 light charcoal gray hat. Beautiful, Yes, felt a feather in it, 0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:49.159 a feather in it. It's like, is he or she 0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:54.320 good or bad? Oh? The charcoal gray hat? You don't know? Well, 0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:57.040 I can put that on the list of potential screenplays 0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:02.080 that you asked me. Yes, perfect, thank you. Yeah, let's 0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:05.400 get an outline going on that, got it? Because I'm 0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:09.000 going to start writing Hollywood movies. We've we've talked about this. 0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:14.320 That's my goal for this new season, and at some 0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:17.120 point we will have a stage reading on the podcast 0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:20.359 of my manuscript I've written. I can't wait for that. 0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:23.840 We are going to do that. By the way. One 0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:27.159 other thing about Richard, I mean, boy, he was not 0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:28.840 happy when I when I asked him if I could 0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:30.399 call him dick, and he said the last time he 0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:35.600 called I mean, that was spooky, that was aggressive. They 0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:39.720 were in a terrible accident. And did you notice, did you? 0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:42.640 I didn't notice it until the end of the interview. 0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:46.880 But he in his right hand, he put his hand 0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:49.720 on top of the table and he had brass knuckles. 0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:57.400 What does that mean? I mean, he had old fashioned 0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:00.440