1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Who's that man talking in my Ron Burgundy? Hello, this 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: is Ron Burgundy and you guessed it. Welcome to the 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: Ron Burgundy Podcast. I am, of course, joined by Carolina. Carolina. 4 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: How are you? Um? I'm good? Actually think you great? 5 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: You look very pretty today. I'm just going to say 6 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: what really? Yes, you've literally never said anything complimentary about Hila. 7 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: I got eighteen hours of sleep last night, so I 8 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: feel very refreshed. Um. Today's show is is quite fascinating. 9 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: We are going to be talking about the Internet. And 10 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: the Internet, for those of you who don't know, was 11 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: originally created by the U. S. Military as a way 12 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: for members of our armed forces to trade baking recipes 13 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: with each other. M interesting since that first computer was 14 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: connected to another computer by Alexander Graham Bell all the 15 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: way back in two thousand four. The Internet has no 16 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: doubt revolutionized the way our world works today and changed 17 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: our daily lives. I like to call the Internet the 18 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: information super Highway. That's a phrase I invented myself last 19 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: night as I was preparing research for this podcast. I 20 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: had to do all the research myself because Carolina didn't 21 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: fax any notes to me like I asked her to. 22 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: I there are. There are so many things wrong with 23 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: what you just said. There's so many factual errors. I 24 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: just and you know what I did, fax you the 25 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: notes for today's show. You did, Yeah, well maybe I 26 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: was out of fax paper. Ron. You really need to 27 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: stop using that old fax machine that takes the curly 28 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: paper that rolls up the ink gets all over your fingers. 29 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: I've offered numerous times to get you something more modern. Hey, 30 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: if it ain't broke, don't fit it. But that that's 31 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: the point it is, it's very broken. Well, whatever the 32 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: point is, I think we can all agree on one thing. 33 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: The Internet is here to stay, right sure, yeah, I 34 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: will not going anywhere. However, it's never been more dangerous. 35 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: I don't like to contribute to the culture of fear, 36 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: but the Internet is truly terrifying right now. Look at 37 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 1: your children. They aren't safe, the elderly or at constant risk. 38 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: And if you're going to use the Internet, you must 39 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: take extreme caution. And that's why I'm so glad to 40 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: have our guests today. His name is Richard Greenberg, and 41 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: he's what's referred to as a cyber security expert, so 42 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: he knows all the ins and outs of the mercurial intranet. 43 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: It's going to be fascinating. It doesn't have to sound 44 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 1: so spooky to crack open his skull and figure out 45 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: what swimming around and there right, Yeah, I'll be a 46 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: basic interview. Crack that thing open with a ball peen 47 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: hammer and pull out all the goop. No, but I 48 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: mean metaphorically sure, it just sounds. On the other side 49 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: of this wall is Richard Greenberg. It's yeah, he's waiting 50 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: to just come to cyber security X. Let's make it 51 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: sound more warm and professional. Man, he knows it all. 52 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with our cyber security expert right 53 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: after this commercial break, and welcome back to the Ron 54 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: Burgundy Podcast. Is Ron Burgundy and we are joined right 55 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: now by our cyber are security expert, uh, Richard Greenberg. Richard, 56 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: thank you for for joining us here on the podcast. 57 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: My pleasure. Thanks for inviting me. Richard. Can I call 58 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: you Dick? Do you go by Dick Greenberg? The last 59 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: person that did that had an unfortunate accident. Okay, but 60 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: you can call me whatever you are now, I'm gonna 61 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: call you Richard. I'm gonna I'm not gonna mess around 62 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: with that stuff. Um Let me just start off by saying, 63 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: what is a cyber security expert? For those listening, Well, 64 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: we all know that the hackers are looking to get 65 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: all of our data everywhere. Who are the hackers? Is 66 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: that a musical group? Well, there are good hackers and 67 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: bad hackers. We call them white hat and black hat. 68 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: Whoa okay, yeah, here we go. So the white hat 69 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: hackers are the guys that look for vulnerabilities to try 70 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: to help us identify where we're weak and what we 71 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: could fix. The black hat hackers, the criminals, are the 72 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: real ones who they want to get the good stuff. 73 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: They're in a Stonier, in Russia and China, in a 74 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: variety of different places, and they're trying to get our 75 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: data because it's monetized. Every piece of information, credit card 76 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: and social security, medical records has a value on the 77 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: doc market. So you're a cyber security expert. Um, do 78 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: you carry a badge and a gun? Nope, that would 79 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: be a physical security expert because it seems like you 80 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: should have a badge and a gun with you at 81 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: all times. You know, it's hard to shoot the internet. 82 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: That's the problem because you're dealing with cyber criminals, but 83 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: you're not seeing them. Yeah, they're kind of and we 84 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: call on in their in virtual space. Have you ever, 85 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: by chance met one of these cyber criminals and like 86 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: remembered their handle and been like, wait a minute, your 87 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: soccer girl. Yeah, you look familiar to me, soccer girl 88 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: twenty three. I haven't done that the other out there, though. 89 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: Let's talk about passwords. I know those are important, right, Um, 90 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: And of course I'm not talking about the old game 91 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: show password. I was actually up to host that show, 92 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: but but they went with a real lightweight instead. Um, 93 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: we don't need to get on that tangent. But I'm talking. 94 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the passwords you use for security purposes. Now, 95 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: for myself, I just used the same password for everything 96 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: in my life. Is that the right thing to do? 97 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. And as a matter of fact, tell me 98 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: what it is and let's discuss it. I'm happy to 99 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: It is eight oh oh eight five, which you know. 100 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: You know how I got that well, because if you 101 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: type that into a calculator and you turn it upside 102 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: down as spells boobs. Okay, so hilarious. Would you consider 103 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: that a safe password? It's easy to remember, right, that's it. 104 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: That's the good part. Yes, The bad part is that 105 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: the black hat hackers now share tools, and they have 106 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: ways where they can run scripts and computers and try thousands, 107 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands, if you will, password combinations, just random letters, 108 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: and they would crack your password in about three seconds. No, 109 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: I might take a minute, depends. Well I'll take that. 110 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: I'll take those chances. Yeah, so you're saying it's not 111 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: a safe password, not at all. And also you really 112 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: can't have the same password in all your accounts because 113 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: if one is broken, it's everything. It's curtains. As they say, 114 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: they have the keys to your city. And I said 115 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: it on the air here too. No, there's no way 116 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: that boobe could still work. You know what, it's locked in. 117 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: It's locked into the old noggin. So do you want 118 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: to take a minute and go change it? What would 119 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: beat some other good passwords? Well we don't want to 120 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: say those either, boobies. So one of the I can 121 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: give you some advice please to help formulate one. And 122 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: this is you know, blobes. Now what you could do 123 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: better than a password? Oh cheechee, those are just words, 124 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: so ron better than a password that means certain things. 125 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: Oh but Zoomba's I'm sorry, Richard. Go ahead, that's okay, 126 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Richard. I see he's focused. Five passwords, ready 127 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: to go? Okay, Yes, consider a pass phrase. So a 128 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: combination of words such as ron burgundy is super duper. 129 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: That's pretty long. Oh well maybe ron burgundy is super duper. 130 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: You might remember that. Yeah, sure, remember that. So that's 131 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: a combination of letters that would be hard for a 132 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: computer to crackers. There's so many digits. Somebody, and then 133 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: add some numbers on top of it. That would be good. 134 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: But make sure you can remember those numbers. So like 135 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: ron burgundy is super duper. Okay, there you go. I 136 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: think I got my new my new password. Okay, but 137 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: don't tell anybody. Okay, So don't use that one. That 138 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: was just an hypothetical exactly. Really don't use it. But 139 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: don't use it. I can't think of another good one. 140 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: I'll probably use that one. Let me ask you about 141 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: the dark web. What is the dark web. It's the 142 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: place where the black hat hackers operate. That's where they live. Yes, 143 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: they're they're there. They're deadly, and they want your stuff. 144 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: And you can buy illegal narcotics and weapons on the 145 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: dark web by anything you want. Really. Yeah, So hypothetically, 146 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: if I wanted to access the dark web, and by 147 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: let's say this is purely a hypothetical situation, qui ludes? 148 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: Would you, Richard, would you be able to show me 149 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: how to buy kuludes on the dark web? Qui lude 150 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: still for sale? I don't know greenies? Greenies are amphetamines? 151 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: Never mind, well they might replaced those with more effective drugs. Okay, 152 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: man demand, we'll cut this out of the podcast. Richard, 153 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: can you give me some qui ludes regardless of whether 154 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: it's with the Dark Web or not. Now that would 155 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: kind of compromise my position. I appreciate your honesty. Yeah, 156 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: I appreciate your honest but I can understand the sense 157 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people in my statue would say, sure, Ron, 158 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: I'll get you whatever you want. Thank you. Okay, I'm sorry, 159 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: I can't help you, being a man of your word 160 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: and integrity. Um, so, okay, I'll just have to go 161 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: somewhere else. Hypothetically. So, I've heard all about the cyber bullying, 162 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: right and and to my understanding, it's when you when 163 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: you post something to the Internet and that that someone 164 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: doesn't like, and that person will actually drive over to 165 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: your house and punch you right in the face. Is 166 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: how do we protect ourselves against cyber bullies. Cyber bullies 167 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: act out of immaturity or insecurity, or variety of other 168 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: psychological things. It's the same thing in the real world. Um. 169 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: You know, when I was a kid, I got beat 170 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: up by a bully, and I'm sure are lots of 171 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: people listening had the same experience. It's no different. It's 172 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: only online. The problem with online it's one everybody can 173 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: hear it and see it, and it's forever. Can't withdraw 174 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: anything that's on the internet, So not just two or 175 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 1: three people standing around see or hear it. Everyone and 176 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: everyone's social network will see it. You know what else 177 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: is for forever? The diamond diamonds are forever. Let's move on, 178 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: Kay Jeweler's um robots, but they are friends, our enemies. 179 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: We'll just put it out there. So there's something called 180 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: AI artificial intelligence that are built in which makes robots 181 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: and other types of think for themselves more or less. 182 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: They learn and they adapt right, and so the future 183 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: is unknown what these can do? Uh. There there is 184 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: there's no use today really in cybersecurity. But I think 185 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: down the road they will be. So how do we 186 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: keep a lid on this? How do we make sure 187 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: that the robots, you know, don't John Connor us it's 188 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: a good question. That's more of a political question reference 189 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: to the movie Terminator. Yes, there are reports that Alex 190 00:11:55,840 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: says the Amazon tool we're laughing at their own and 191 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: basically scoffing at them. Is that something to worry about. 192 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: I had a girlfriend named Alexa. She used to laugh 193 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: at me. I'm sorry. I would tell her my secrets 194 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: and you know what I wanted from the supermarket, and 195 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: she would just laugh. That's Richard. Did you ever know 196 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: an Alexa your childhood? No, I haven't. I'm sorry for 197 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: your that's a story there. What were your secrets and 198 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: your supermarket suggestions? Well, I would just daydream around the 199 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: house and say, oh, I'd like three extra large T shirts, Um, 200 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: a dozen bananas, you know, some new sheets. Oh yeah. 201 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: It was probably an interesting couple. It was. We were 202 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: great to entrick party guests. And you know what her 203 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: password was? Movies On the weekends, Richard, I like to 204 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: mess around with my CB equipment. Um, you know, I 205 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: have one in my truck. Uh, and I just drive 206 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: around for hours talking to my pals. I've got the Muskrat, Howler, 207 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: dan Zoid, Gruving, Gary, all good buddies in my convoy. 208 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: And if if you're ever out on the road, my 209 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: handle is frog Penis. Uh. That's a long it's a long, 210 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: funny story. I don't have time to get into anyway. 211 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: Is my CB radio safe from hackers? CB is open 212 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: so anybody can get on it, but there's not a 213 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: whole lot you can do with it unless it's connected 214 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: to one of your networks internally, which is most likely 215 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: not the case. Some people are have actually done that. 216 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: But if send your truck or your vehicle, then it's 217 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: contained Roger that. Yeah, I'll tell you Richard. Sometimes I 218 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: can be a real ratchet, real ratchet John there. I'll 219 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: be talking to Claw Humper, buzz Ball and Dr Nathaniel 220 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: Fernald doing double nickels on the dimes and and hey, muskrat, 221 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: what's your twenty next thing? You know? I got some 222 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: Mama bear on my donkey. Okay, this is a cyber 223 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: security expert. He doesn't work with CB radios. And I've 224 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: told you before not everyone understands CBE radio LINGO. Come on, Carolina, 225 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: quit acting like a lot lizard. Okay, you teld me 226 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: that a lot lizard is CB radio lingle for prostitute, 227 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: and it is absolutely not okay to call me that. 228 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: It also doesn't make any sense in this context. Ten four. 229 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: That was out a line. I apologize, Richard gets it though. 230 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: Ten four, ten four. See, I'm just glad internet hackers 231 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: can't mess with my CB radio. That's that's a relief. Yeah, 232 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: but that is an open line of communications. So watch 233 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: what you say or not. Yeah. So I don't want 234 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: to get too political on this show, but as a 235 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: cyber security expert, would you know how to set up 236 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: something like stealing a presidential election in theory? Yes? Okay, 237 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: what about an election to a co op board? Because 238 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm having a real hard time with my condo and 239 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: I could I could use some help. Well, maybe you 240 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: should talk to the people that might be a better approach. Yeah, 241 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: just saying is this a money question? Because I don't 242 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: mind kicking in some scratch my friend. No, that's all right, 243 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: condo board, if you're listening, we've got a black hat. Yeah, 244 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: I gott I just bought myself a new black hat. 245 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: There are times when I'm visiting certain websites. I'm gonna 246 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: get into this delicately. Let's just say of an erotic nature, 247 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I'll get a million boxes 248 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: popping up on my screen. One time, I got so 249 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: frustrated I ended up throwing my computer out of the 250 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: window of my den and it landed on my neighbor's 251 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: bacat and she was pretty sore about it. Any solutions 252 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: to that problem, yeah, I get the really strong tempered 253 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: glass windows. I didn't even think of that. That's that's 254 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: a handy salute. Yeah. But the other thing you can 255 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: do also is, you know, be careful when you go 256 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: to the internet. There are certain applications you can download. 257 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: They're called sandboxes, where they isolate the rest of your 258 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: computer from where you're going on the internet. Some people 259 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: use them for banking that you could use them for 260 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: the areas you were discussing as well. It's it's it's 261 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: erotic art. I look at that's what that's honestly looking 262 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: at erotic art. Christie's auction house online pop ups. All right, Well, 263 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: he appreciates beautiful things in life. I guess Christie's a 264 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: spelled k R y s t y s x X 265 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: x um, let's talk about the terms and conditions that 266 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: we'll see. Uh, you know that we all have to 267 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: sign when we go on to a certain thing. Now, 268 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: I actually take the time to read every single word 269 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,479 Speaker 1: and then I sent it to my lawyer and they 270 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: we go back and forth. He makes changes and and 271 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: it you know, it takes forever, but I think it's 272 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: worth it. Um. In general, do you think people should 273 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: be more careful with the terms and conditions on the Internet? Okay, 274 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: So I would advise that people not waste their time 275 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: with that, because basically all the internet providers are saying 276 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: is we might get your stuff and we're happy and 277 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: thank you, and we might sell it. And that's the 278 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: unfortunate part. Well, now now there is rules in the 279 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: European Union and they might come our way, which affords 280 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: all of us a bit more control of our own 281 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: personal data. So, but my attorney charges me hourly, So 282 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: when he's making all those changes and sending it back 283 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: to the side, they're not listening. They're not taking any 284 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: of it. I think they're filing it in the the 285 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: oval file cabinet. So you're saying it's a waste of time. Yeah, However, 286 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: as long as we're on this subjecting the notice as 287 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: we get when we download apps where they want access 288 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: to your camera, they want acces, those are the ones yes, no, 289 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: those are the ones you want to question and if 290 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: you have the ability, because some of the apps won't 291 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: work unless you say yes, others might and you can 292 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: say no, I just want to give you the access 293 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: to what you need. Well, then why are we using 294 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: all this mumbo jumbo if all they want to do 295 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: is collect our data because it's convenient and it's fun. Right, 296 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: It's a trade off. It is a it's a real 297 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: trade off. And now alex is listening to us, not 298 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: your girlfriend, but the computer label Richard. What's your first 299 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: memory with a computer? You know, were you a little 300 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: boy sitting in front of a computer and just saying, yep, 301 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: this is what I want to do with the rest 302 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: of my life. And I will lose my virginity or 303 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: I won't, it doesn't matter. I love computers. Now I 304 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: learned when there were main frames before the PCs. What's 305 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: the main frame? Main frame is a big old computer 306 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: taking up a huge space the large room. Oh like 307 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: the IBM mainframes? There you go, yes, right, do you 308 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: remember the old computer Commodore. Yes, the Commodore Commodore. Right, 309 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: those are coming back, right. I don't think you would 310 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: see those other than people with nostalgia just want to 311 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: have them around. And what do you think is past 312 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: the iPhone? So what do you think is the next? Oh, 313 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: that's a great question. Is it VR? Is it? What 314 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,719 Speaker 1: is the next? Well, I don't know. I think at 315 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: some point people will elect to have the chip implanted. 316 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well, people are getting chips installed now 317 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: to protect themselves from kidnapping and a variety whether they 318 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: hit their political in the office and certain questionable countries, 319 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: the technologies there. I I paid for a chip to 320 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: be implanted because you got lost one time. Did it help? Well, 321 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: it turns out it was a hundred dollar poker chip. Um, 322 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: so it did nothing. The guy ripped me off. Yeah, 323 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: because now when you're lost, they still there's your lost. 324 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: Well also too, it's horribly infected. Find me note to self, 325 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: have poker chip removed removed from neck from neck. Thank you. 326 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: Steve Jobs. Pretty cool guy, right, Many people say yes. 327 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: Some people say he was a little bit too intense 328 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: tough to work with. He invented the Macintosh, the iPhone. 329 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: But a lot of people don't know this. He invented 330 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: Mr microphone. Do you remember that? It was a toy 331 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: microphone that you could hook up to your radio and 332 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: it would broadcast your voice. So very cool. Steve Jobs 333 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: a true pioneer. I don't think Steve Jobs invented the 334 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: Mr microphone. Well, whoever did gets my utmost respect the 335 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: inventor of Mr microphone? Is that how you got started 336 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: in in this? You know, I got started by just 337 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 1: hanging around outside of news stations. And that was back 338 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: in the day where you could just walk in and 339 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: you know, have a good head of hair and firm 340 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: handshake and get put on the air in a couple 341 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: of weeks. So it's really changed. Um, but thank you, 342 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: thank you for asking, Richard, have you ever invented anything? Uh? Now? 343 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: Just better ways to work more efficiently. I brought up 344 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: robots before, and I think I think you you had 345 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: some good insight to that. But I'd be remiss if 346 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: I didn't ask sex robots. How close are we? I 347 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: think they're there? WHOA, Well, I know where I can 348 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: find him. So maybe you don't need to get the 349 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: tempered glass after all. I'll just look them up on 350 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: Christie's hard Auction website. Anyway, Richard, I think we are 351 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: officially out of time. I'm officially out of questions here. 352 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for joining our podcast. Thank 353 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 1: you for your your excellentes. Uh Caroline, I'm gonna give 354 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: you the keys to my truck and if you could 355 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: pull it up front, that would be terrific. But don't 356 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: touch my CB radio. Okay, do not get on there 357 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: and open your mouth. We will be an embarrassment in 358 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: front of my trucker buddies. Uh. Richard, thank you again 359 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: for coming on the Ron Burgundy Podcast. I think you've 360 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: informed a lot of people about how to be safe 361 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: out there. Definitely, don't forget change that password. Well, no, 362 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: I've already got it burned in my brain. What Ron 363 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: Burgundy is a super sexy guy or something like that. 364 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: We'll figure it out later, all right, We'll be right 365 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: back with a Ron Burgundy podcast after this, and we 366 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: are back Ron Burgundy podcast. Uh Carolina. Yeah, I kept 367 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: thinking what Richard said about the white hats and the 368 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: black hats. I mean, what would you rather be a 369 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: white hat or a black hat? A white hat, of course, 370 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: it's the person protecting our information, protecting our data. But 371 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: you're not intrigued a little bit about the dark internet 372 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: and a black hat. You have a lot of power, 373 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: a lot of prestige. No, that's sort of the question 374 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: between good and evil, right, Yeah, so I want to 375 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: be good? What do you want to be? I want 376 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: to be a white hat too. Okay, good, Okay, you 377 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: don't have to look at me like that. I'm just curious. No, 378 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, though, black hat, no, white hat. Yes, 379 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: I want to be a white hat too. I wonder 380 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: if they're gray hats though, we're sort of like a 381 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: light charcoal gray hat. Beautiful, Yes, felt a feather in it, 382 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: a feather in it. It's like, is he or she 383 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: good or bad? Oh? The charcoal gray hat? You don't know? Well, 384 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: I can put that on the list of potential screenplays 385 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: that you asked me. Yes, perfect, thank you. Yeah, let's 386 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: get an outline going on that, got it? Because I'm 387 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: going to start writing Hollywood movies. We've we've talked about this. 388 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: That's my goal for this new season, and at some 389 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: point we will have a stage reading on the podcast 390 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: of my manuscript I've written. I can't wait for that. 391 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: We are going to do that. By the way. One 392 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: other thing about Richard, I mean, boy, he was not 393 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: happy when I when I asked him if I could 394 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: call him dick, and he said the last time he 395 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: called I mean, that was spooky, that was aggressive. They 396 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: were in a terrible accident. And did you notice, did you? 397 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: I didn't notice it until the end of the interview. 398 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: But he in his right hand, he put his hand 399 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: on top of the table and he had brass knuckles. 400 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: What does that mean? I mean, he had old fashioned 401 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: brass knuckles. Why would he's a cyber s I know 402 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: it makes no sense. Well, he might be a killer. 403 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: We don't know that. We cannot can't say that on air. 404 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: You're right, However, I did know if he were to 405 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: leap across the table and try to punch me with 406 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: the brass knuckles, I was going to cushion the blow 407 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: with your face. I don't But isn't that great? I 408 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: was already thinking ahead of time that I would use 409 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: you as a human shield because I would have gotten 410 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: pummeled and you would have been fine. But that's why 411 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: I respect you so much. You're selfless. White hat attitude prevails. 412 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: I don't know That's what I meant when I said 413 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 1: I want to be a white hat. So so are 414 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: you thinking you want to be a black hat? I 415 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: don't want to go down for a black hat. Luke, 416 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm your father exactly. Remember what that was from Star Wars? 417 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: I couldn't remember Star Wars or Raiders in the Last Dark. 418 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. Let's follow up with Richard though, and Seapie 419 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: really can't give me some coludes? Okay, well, we'll catch 420 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: you next Thursday. On The Ron Burgundy Podcast. 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