1 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're listening to In the Vets Office with doctor 2 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: Josie Horshak. All right, everybody, welcome to in the Vet's Office. 3 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: I am your host, doctor Josie, and as always, we 4 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: are joined by Shannon. 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: Hey. 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 3: Hey, how's it going going great? How are you this week? 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 3: I'm good. 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: I'm always excited for this episode because I feel like 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: we have great guests and such great conversation and there's 10 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: always something interesting or funny that happens in the Vet's 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: Office and you just still don't know what goes on 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: behind closed doors when you take your pets in. 13 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 14 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I feel like you have had a lot 15 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 3: of interesting stuff happen. 16 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 17 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: I was reflecting this week on what case to talk about, 18 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, this isn't really a case. 19 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: It's more of an observation, okay, that I've had. And 20 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: when I as many of you know, I was working 21 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: in downtown Chicago for almost five years and I really 22 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: prided myself on being very efficient in and out of 23 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: my exams, a throw of course, but never behind, never 24 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: making owners weight. And I have found that since moving 25 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: to Nashville, I'm always like three to four minutes behind 26 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,639 Speaker 1: and I'm like, why is this happening? And I think 27 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: a lot of it has to do with like the 28 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: demeanor of the owners coming from the big city to 29 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: now being you know, in the South in Nashville. Yeah, 30 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: a little more laid back, a little more laid back. 31 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: And then also just like there's just more conversation. So 32 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: for example, if a pet is coming into the exam 33 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: room in Chicago, the owner would be like, listen, I'm 34 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: here for rabies de simper parva lepto. I've got a 35 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: meeting in four minutes, Like can you get me in 36 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: and out? And I'm like, you got this, Linda, I 37 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: got you girl, Like I'm going to get you in 38 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: and out so fast. And now it's like, well, Fliffy 39 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: likes to watch Animal Planet. Sometimes he's scared of the 40 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: flask water and he likes to go in the yard, 41 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: but not when it's raining. 42 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: He doesn't want to get his toes wet. And so 43 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: I find that. I'm just like and. 44 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: You're like, why are you here? 45 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, wait a second, what do we do? 46 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: No, I'm confused, And we're talking about fly swatters and 47 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: an animal Planet, which I love, I adore. I think 48 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: it's amazing because I get to learn so much about 49 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: my clients now, Like I learn about their children and 50 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: their parents and their significant other. Like there's just some 51 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: like this added conversation piece. 52 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that Southern hospitality. It really is. 53 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: And I feel like that you've had a lot of 54 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: your clients be a part of the podcast because you've 55 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: actually developed relationships with them. Yes, and that's before in Downtown, 56 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: which I don't fault them at all, but they're like 57 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: go go, go go. So now it's just kind of like, okay, 58 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: like this is great. Like do I need to know 59 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: that Fluffy scared of fly swatters? 60 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 2: No? 61 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: I don't, Like that's not going to change when I 62 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: do medically, but I do, deep down really. 63 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: Love the added details. 64 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: It's pretty great not to pull a fly swatter out 65 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: if Fluffy is coming in there you go, which you 66 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: might not have known that about a Chicago patient exactly exactly. 67 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: I know. I know my pets, I know their their loves, 68 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: their hates, everything, so hilarious. 69 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: I think it is true though, Like I come from 70 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: Canada and like I have noticed that been in like 71 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: meetings and stuff like in Toronto is like everyone is 72 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: like in a rush constantly and like, I'm sure there 73 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: are people in Nashville and Tennessee that are like that too, 74 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: but I think there is such a little bit more 75 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: of a like building a relationship while also in you know, 76 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: contact with someone. Yeah, and they'll even be to me 77 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: the like how are you. I'm like, oh, you're talking 78 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: to me. 79 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: You're like, thank you? How am I? I don't know how. 80 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 3: I'm like, no one's ever asked me that before. 81 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, just yeah, coming down here was 82 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: It's a cultural difference and I love it. 83 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. 84 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: I think I noticed that too with like our horse 85 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: vet that we had come out to our farm here. 86 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: I love doctor Meghan, like my our vet. 87 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: She's great and like we would hang out and have 88 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: a coffee, and I'm like I would never do that 89 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: when I. 90 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 3: Was back home, just get to shoot the shit. 91 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like they would come in, give the horse like 92 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: a you know, their vaccines, and then be gone. Like 93 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: doctor Meghan and I were like hanging out. It might 94 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: need to make my appointment times a little longer, but 95 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm here for it that maybe just make it a 96 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: little bit of an adjustment. Yeah, yeah, here for it. 97 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: So that you can talk about Fluffy. 98 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: Fluffy and his loves and hates. That's amazing. 99 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we've got some great questions this week. 100 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: I actually got some from some listeners, so this was 101 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: for you, Doctor Josie. My dog is so itchy. She's 102 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: scratching at her ears and armpits, licking her paws. I'm 103 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: giving her zertech daily, but it doesn't seem to be helping. 104 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: What do I do? That is a very good question. 105 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: I'm actually going to do an entire episode on allergies 106 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: in our pets because I need a whole hour to 107 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: talk about it. But what it makes me think is 108 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: a she probably has allergies, whether it's seasonal, environmental, food allergy, 109 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: it's hard to say. I'd have to see her and 110 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: we'd have to talk about it. But a lot of 111 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: the times those over the counter anahistamines do not cut 112 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: it for these dogs, and so what I would recommend 113 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: is bring her into your vet. A lot of times 114 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: when they do have allergies, they can get a secondary 115 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: skin infection. So their skin is already you know, angry 116 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: because they're allergic right now. They can get a bacterial 117 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,559 Speaker 1: or yeast infection on top of that. So we'll treat 118 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: that skin infection if they have one, and then we 119 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: have some really great prescription medications to help control the itch, 120 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,559 Speaker 1: one of them being Sido Point. 121 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 3: It's an injection that I really like. 122 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: And then if we can get to the bottom of 123 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 1: what they're allergic to, then great, we're treating the underlying issue. 124 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: So sounds like allergies, you should probably go to the vet. 125 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:14,119 Speaker 2: I help that helps. 126 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I dealt with that all the time with our 127 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 3: friend Gie. 128 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: She was constantly going through like allergy cycles and it 129 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: actually the main cause was her food mm hmm yep, 130 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: And you know, we kind of trial and error just 131 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: figured it out over time. But yeah, she ended up 132 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: on like the hypoallergenic. I would tell owners every time 133 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: we even start an allergy conversation, I say, this is 134 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: far and away the least favorite. 135 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 3: Thing I enjoy working up in animals. 136 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: It is so frustrating because you kind of have to 137 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: go through some trial and air and owners want like 138 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: an overnight fix, and there's just there just isn't one, 139 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: So we kind of all have to be on the 140 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: same page. And like I said, I'm gonna do a 141 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: whole episode about it, so stay tuned. I can't wait, 142 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: all right, next one, Doctor Josie. This may be a 143 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: dumb question. There's never a dumb question. But I've only 144 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: ever had male dogs. What does it mean to spae 145 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: an animal? I don't think this is a dumb question 146 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: at all. I think a lot of people don't understand 147 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: how just how involved a spae procedure is. So a 148 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: spe is for a female animal really cats and dogs, 149 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: and then a neuter is for a male. Neuter easy psy, 150 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: You take the testicles out. You don't have to go 151 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: in through that body wall. Now, as spae, their reproductive 152 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: tract lies inside their abdomen. So just like when a 153 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: woman gets a C section, we cut through those tummy 154 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: muscles and we take out both ovaries and their uterus. 155 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 3: I mean it's a oh wow, I did not know that. 156 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah, it's a big surgery. It's a huge surgery. 157 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 2: So it is. 158 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: And it's not to say we shouldn't do it. We 159 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: absolutely should, but it's important to know, like, hey, this 160 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: is a pretty involved, slash somewhat invasive procedure and postop 161 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: they really need to be arrested and closely monitored because 162 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: it is such a you know, a big procedure. Yeah, 163 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: and like female dogs that I've had, they definitely were 164 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: not taking it easy as they probably should have been. Yes, 165 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: I say, like really the first ten days, especially like 166 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: super strictly arrested. Most of the dogs that were spaying 167 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: and neutering are like parcouring off the walls because they're 168 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: young and excited. Anyways, So tell your vet that and 169 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: they can give you a little something to take the 170 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: edge off at home and keep them calm. 171 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: Right, Okay, good deal? 172 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: All right, Well those are our questions for this week, 173 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: and don't forget you guys can submit your questions too 174 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: if you want to ask doctor Josie something. 175 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,119 Speaker 3: There's no dumb questions. And who do we have joining 176 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 3: us today? This week? We have Taylor Lawan. 177 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: She is the wife of Taylor Lawan, who was a 178 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: former offensive LINEMSS for the Tennessee Titans. He is now 179 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: at one of the hosts of Barstools Busting with the 180 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: Boys podcasts. Yep, I heard of that, and Taylan and 181 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: her family live here in Nashville. She's always been a 182 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: big animal advocate and now they have a decent amount 183 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: of land and they're really kind of creating their own farm, 184 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: and so I'm excited to hear how it's gone from 185 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: just being a dog owner to like owning an entire 186 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: farmful of animals. So amazing, all right, Taylor Lawan, we 187 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,119 Speaker 1: are so excited. I'm excited because I at some point 188 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: we are going to have a full on farm with 189 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: goats and chickens and cows and everything. 190 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: So I'll hopefully learn some tips. 191 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. All right, 192 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to in the Vets office, Taylor Lawan. 193 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. I'm happy to be here with Akira. 194 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: I know we've got Missakira here. She We're gonna dive 195 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: into all about Akira. But she is your husky that 196 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: you've had since you were eighteen. Yeah, that's a long time. 197 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: Not to age you, but I no, she ages me. 198 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: That's a long time. Yeah. So she's twelve. I turned 199 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: thirty this year, so that's how I obviously keep track. 200 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 201 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: She's actually one of my patients, and she's one of 202 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: the very, very best. She's so sweet and you would 203 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: never know she's thirteen. 204 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, she's turned thirteen this year. Yeah, almost thirteen. Yeah, 205 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 2: sozy she has she's my senior dog. So she hasn't 206 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: left my house in a long time unless I take 207 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: her for a drive. So she's probably like, what are 208 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: we doing? Why are we here? 209 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 3: Like this is a weird outing for sure? What are 210 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 3: these bright lights? 211 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: Exactly? 212 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: Well, well, I'm glad she's here today. 213 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: Taylan and I actually met at a Wags event and 214 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: bonded over horses. And for those of you that don't 215 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 1: follow Tailan, I love your account because I feel like 216 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: all the things you post are just like so aesthetically 217 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: pleasing and wholesome. You're like making sour dough, You've got chickens, 218 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: and I guess, like you know, for those of us 219 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: that are just looking from the outside in, it looks 220 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: so beautiful. But I'm sure it's a lot of work 221 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: because you basically have your own little farm. 222 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like it. I think it's a lot of 223 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: work for those moments, you know, right, it's like those 224 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: moments that I capture because it's usually when I'm like 225 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: like this is like I always treat my Instagram like 226 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: it's a scrap book. 227 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 3: Oh this is amazing. 228 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 2: That's why she's trying to get my attention. 229 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: Akira has taken a poop. 230 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, she really doesn't bother me unless 231 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: she has to go outside. That's why she's trying to 232 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: get attention. 233 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: That's okay, this is our first poop of the pot. 234 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: Guess Okay, we're gonna take a brief intermission so that 235 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: we can clean up the little poop. 236 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 3: No gets she's left behind, and we'll be right back. 237 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: We'll be right back. 238 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: All right, We're back from our brief intermission of cleaning 239 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: up at Caraspoo. I was like, you know what, Taylor, 240 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: this is a great bow movement. Like this is solid, 241 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: good consistency, nice and healthy. Yeah, we got no concerns, 242 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: no concern great shape for her age. Actually we were 243 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: just discussing her age. Yeah, very consistent bow movements. Anyways, Okay, 244 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: so back to your your little farm. 245 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So I have always wanted a farm, and 246 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: I grew up on a cattle ranch, but I mostly 247 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 2: grew up outside outside, So I grew up in Canada 248 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: and my all, my my grandparents and my mom and everybody. 249 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 2: We've always had a big heart for animals, and when 250 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 2: I moved to Nashville, that was kind of always the goal. 251 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: I remember, even when I first moved out into a 252 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: place that was not allowed having chickens. I got chickens 253 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: and I put them in a garage, thinking that would 254 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: be fine. Of course, they destroyed that garage. It took 255 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 2: me forever clean. So it's always been a goal of mine. 256 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: So me and my husband we built the house that 257 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: we live in now, and one of the first things 258 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: I did was get a chicken coop. Okay, and I 259 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: knew chickens is going to be the first thing, just 260 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 2: it seemed detainable. Yeah, And when COVID happened, I actually 261 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: came to realize that I had I can't do anything for. 262 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: Myself, Okay. 263 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: When I was stuck in my house, I was like, wow, 264 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: I'm I'm really dependent on everything, you know and everyone. 265 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: So when things started shutting down, I was like, okay, 266 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: I want to be more prepared next time, just to 267 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: have you know, more things at home, and you know, 268 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: learn how to garden and learn how to maintain animals 269 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 2: that will like work for me and all the things. 270 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: So I got chickens. And then getting chickens, you kind 271 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: of like, once you get them, you start learning them. Yeah. Hey, 272 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: once I got chickens, I started learning them and started 273 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: getting like little routines. Okay, so you don't really know 274 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: until you get them, you know. Well I didn't. I 275 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 2: yea did very learn as you go. 276 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: Most people moved to Tennessee and they're like, I'm going 277 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: to get a chicken. I just feel like it like 278 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: comes one part of the territory and they don't know. 279 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, and so once you get like we 280 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: got a good routine in the automatic waters and you know, 281 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: and it's an excuse to get me outside every day. 282 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: How many chickens do you have right now? 283 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: I have twelve? 284 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: And are any of them roosters? Are they all? 285 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: You're not a lot of roosters? Okay, yeah, so I 286 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: don't even know. Yeah, you're not well within the city 287 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: limits that I'm in. 288 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: You're not allowed roosters because they make noise. 289 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. Okay, so you're not allowed of roosters. We've 290 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 2: got four parcels of land kind of conjoined, and so yeah, 291 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: that's how many chickens we have. And then we had ducks, 292 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: but for some reason we have We're in the city, 293 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: we're not too far away. But the predators are insane. 294 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 3: Yes, that is something that when I moved here from 295 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 3: downtown Chicago. I was shocked. Yeah, bobcats. 296 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we have a we have a I mean 297 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: the land we're on too, is like really historical. We've 298 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: got a graveyard and we've got an old house, so 299 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: it's a lot of history on it and a lot 300 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: of it's untouched. Most of it's untouched, and I have 301 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: to assume that's where they've all lived within the city. 302 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: That's my story, I tell myself because it's shocking to me. 303 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: But like at one in the afternoon, they'll just be 304 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: a bobcat walking around. 305 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like, Yeah, I was on a walk with 306 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: my sister and a bobcat went in front of us. 307 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: She's like, what the is going on? Yeah, She's like, 308 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: do they travel in packs? I'm like no, I just 309 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: wanted to Yeah, and it was huge. I was like, 310 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: you've probably lived here this whole time. 311 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're big. 312 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I lost all my ducks, all four of them. 313 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: I guess a duck is a delicacy. I'm assuming. I 314 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 2: know that I can't. I'm assuming because they just would 315 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: go right past the chicken straight. 316 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 3: To the duck. Wow. 317 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, I thought that was too. I think that 318 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: that well. At least two out of four of those 319 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 2: was for sure. Now, just the way that we found 320 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 2: the duck, I was like, this is now wow. But yeah, 321 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: that was Another thing is learning predators. You know, you 322 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 2: see all these pictures of the chickens running around free, 323 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: and you think it's all, you know, storybook, but no, 324 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: sometimes it's also a mystery, like studying the blood splatter exactly. 325 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, this was taken, so that must mean. 326 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: But one of the main reasons I did this was 327 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: for my kids. We live in a really blessed lifestyle, 328 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: and you know, my kids have chores, and my kids 329 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: have duties that they have to do, and they have 330 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: to take care of something other than themselves, and so 331 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: that's where kind of chickens came into. And you know, 332 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: my oldest daughter, her job is getting the eggs every day, 333 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: and I don't get put them in charge of doing 334 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: the chickens because this is also a learning group. Cleaning 335 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: them is because I didn't know you're supposed to wear 336 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: like a mask or like a respirator. I got myself 337 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: so sick, really like or your symptoms. I was like, 338 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: I think I started the new Avian flu. 339 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 3: It's not Okay, you were patient zero. 340 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: I was. 341 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 3: So it's like like stomach or like respiratory. 342 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 2: Wow, hardcore respiratory. 343 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 3: Okay, do that as things you just wouldn't know. I wouldn't. 344 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: I would never wear a respirator. 345 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: They don't look cleaning my own chicken coop just a 346 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: real home setter. Now yeah, no, I'm like I can't 347 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: and you were dying in your bed. Okay, yeah, good 348 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: to know. So they don't clean out the coop. So 349 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: they don't clean out the coop. And then after chickens, 350 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: we got bunnies, and bunny seemed like an easier thing 351 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: for the kids to cuddle with. 352 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: The thing I do know about bunnies is they they 353 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: even look at them the wrong way and they're a goner. 354 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we've lost a couple bunnies from heart attacks usually. Yeah. Literally, 355 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: they're like, bring up to the bed. They're like just 356 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: kind of happens. Yeah, what do you mean if a 357 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: branch fell too loud, or if the boil changed too fast, 358 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: or if you move them out of their because I 359 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: switched habitats like that' stress of that, we'll just kill 360 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: them to die. And so kind of like what we 361 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: were talking about beforehand, though, is living on the farm 362 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: kind of like I had grown up too, is like 363 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: your in first introductory to death is with an animal, 364 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: which I think is such a blessing because they understand 365 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: forever through like a bunny or through a chicken, you know, 366 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: And it's a hard concept for even adults to understand. 367 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: And so you know, the few months. Honestly, I have 368 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: two really sensitive daughters, especially one the few months of 369 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: the night time cries because their chicken didn't come home, 370 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: or when's the chicken kind of come back because they 371 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: miss them, or you know, stuff like that. Like those 372 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: are easier conversations to have. And we just recently lost 373 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: my grandmother last October, and that's I'm actually thankful for 374 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 2: the conversations we had that led up to that, because 375 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: I think it would have been even harder to wrap 376 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: their head around when it comes to the concept of 377 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: like a person who knows in their lives rather than 378 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: an animal. 379 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had talked about this before, and that was 380 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: really eye opening for me. I feel like, a yes, 381 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: having them do tours and teaching them the value of 382 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: work is really important. But also I never thought about 383 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: the concept of life and death. Oh yeah, and that 384 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: is like such a beautiful thing to be able to 385 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: teach your children. It is, and like we're important. 386 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: We are meat eaters in our house, we're animal lovers, 387 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 2: which we are meat eaters. And understanding that concept too 388 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 2: young and having that conversation because I remember just being 389 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: absolutely floored when I found out that I've eaten a 390 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: cow when I was like twelve. I was maybe not so, 391 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: but older than I should have been to know that, 392 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 2: like I was, you know, questioning everything. And so I've 393 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: kind of introduced that concept to my kids just to 394 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: let them stomach it and at the end of the 395 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 2: day they can make their own choices as they get 396 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: older and stuff like that. But it comes with so 397 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 2: many life lessons. Living amongst animals in general comes with 398 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: life lessons, I don't agree. More so having the farm that's, 399 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: you know, the main focus. Most of the animals we 400 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: have come with the purpose. The bunnies are more pets. 401 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 2: The bees we have for honey and to also because obviously, 402 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 2: you know, bee populations are constantly plummeting, so the land 403 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: we had, I wanted to try to get some bees 404 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 2: out there and we get beautiful honey with it, and 405 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: then the oats. We had big plans for the cons 406 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: but we went to a livestock barn, which learning curve. 407 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 3: Yep, we're going to add that right up there with 408 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 3: the chicken poop cleaning. 409 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: I didn't understand the concept. I thought, you know, you 410 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 2: go there and it's all fine and dandy, but it's 411 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 2: actually pretty shell shocking experience for somebody who's a little 412 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: bit of an animal advocate. Because again, there's no there's 413 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: never judgment from me in this aspect, especially with true 414 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: farmers who make a living out of things, because my 415 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: experience and what my environment, what I've been exposed to 416 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 2: is different than like their lifestyle and their experience and 417 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: their means to a living. But for me to come 418 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 2: in and see all these animals crammed in and you know, 419 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 2: kind of on top of each other, I was like, 420 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 2: oh my god, we got to buy these alls. 421 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 3: We will take them all exactly. 422 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: And so that was kind of shocking to me. But 423 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: the worst part of it is, I guess, because because 424 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: they are so jam packed and they're kind of breathing 425 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: on top of each other, if there's a sick animal, 426 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: it kind of spreads like wildfire in there. Yeah, so 427 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: it's a run. So it is a risk that I 428 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 2: guess I took unknowingly at the time. And I got 429 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: a lot of sick goats and it was pretty touch 430 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 2: and go for a while there. We ended up getting 431 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: five at the auction and then I got four more 432 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: and ended up giving them care end up giving them 433 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: to uh my nanny's brother and he kept them and 434 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: one of his died that night. Yeah, and so uh 435 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: you know, again, in this world, a lot of times 436 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 2: it's like you can kind of let it run its course, 437 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 2: like you know, the amount of money yield to save 438 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: trying to save them. You could get five new goats, 439 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: and I was like, you don't understand what this is like, 440 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 2: you don't get it. You don't get it. And we're 441 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 2: going to save these goats. Yeah, so we started with 442 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: five and now we have four because just a few 443 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 2: months ago we lost haw because we had yeen Haw, 444 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 2: two little Nigerian dwarf ones. They actually passed away from 445 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: goat herpes, which I didn't know was a thing. 446 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: Learning that's that's taking me back to my that school boards. Yeah, 447 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: I remember, I remember when. 448 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 2: Because I guess when a livestock animal passes away you 449 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: like send the body, yes to like a lab, but 450 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: that investigates it to make sure it can't go across. Ye. Learning, 451 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 2: All of this is learning. 452 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 453 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 2: Anyways, I sent it in and they called and they're like, yeah, 454 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: just so you know, it's not zoo zo zoonotics. Zoonotics 455 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 2: can't catch it from your animal, right, And I was like, 456 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 2: so that was an option, like never crossed my mind 457 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: one time that I think that I could get a 458 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: disease from these things. And so anyways, they're like, it's 459 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 2: not too zoonotic, yep, so you'll be fine, But yeah, 460 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: it's it's a it's got herpes. They got it from 461 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: a sheep. They could get it from a sheep, but 462 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 2: they can't get it from each other. But there's no 463 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: telling if they all have. 464 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: It once they're infected. If they're infected, they have it 465 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: for life and it lays latent and then it'll flare 466 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: up like just randomly and they can you know, as 467 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: you know, die from it, and so you're kind of 468 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: just like waiting to see. 469 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, like at this time, we're just trying to give 470 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: them the best life that they can have, and they 471 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 2: live out there, and which led me into getting my 472 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: fourth dog, which is Bear. 473 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 3: See how this happened? Just now we need another it's. 474 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: A snowball effect. 475 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, tell me about Bear. 476 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 2: So Bear is my great Pyrenees. I got him from Dunlap, Tennessee. 477 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: His mom and dad and grandpa and grandma and all 478 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: of them were all livestock animals. He grew up with 479 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 2: goats and stuff until I got him at six months old. 480 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 2: And he's an angel. 481 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 3: They're the best. 482 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I didn't realize what an incredible 483 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: breed they are. 484 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. They're very sweet, yeah. 485 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 2: And calm and just like his name was Arthur when 486 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: we first got him. Yes, his name was Arthur when 487 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: we first got him. But he like runs like a bear, 488 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 2: kind of like outwardly pause it, and so we're like, 489 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 2: we just kept calling him bear, like there's our bear. 490 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: So now his name is Bear. But he's my first 491 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: outdoor dog. And I remember we were talking about that. Yeah, 492 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 2: that's been It can be controversial, it is. I had. 493 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 2: I had animal control called on me before this last 494 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: cold snap, which made me question my existence. I was like, okay, 495 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 2: have I gone too far? Like I'm like, am I 496 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: doing the right thing? Like is this the okay to do, 497 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 2: like is he okay? Like am I putting this dog 498 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: in danger? Like you know, I advocate and I stick 499 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: up for and I try to support animal advocacy, and 500 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: I have animal control called on me. 501 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, wait, wait a second, yeah. 502 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: Like like I it really kind of stunted me. And 503 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 2: I mean I have two beautiful shelters, and like, I 504 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: mean I overcompensate for Bear all the time, Like I 505 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: bring them toys and bones, and I groom them and 506 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: I bath them, and I, you know, spend as much 507 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: time as I can with him. He's really spoiled with you. 508 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, but yeah, that that shook me to my core. 509 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: But you know, then you go and I talk to 510 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: the people that are have done it before, and they're like, 511 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: this is what he's spread to do. And to be 512 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: honest with you, like there's times where I'll sit back 513 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 2: and watch him and it kind of was the first 514 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 2: time I've ever seen an animal kind of take the 515 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: lead in their own life, if that makes sense, and 516 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 2: kind of do what they're bred to do. 517 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, he 518 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 3: has a job, job to do. 519 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he loves it, like he really loves his job, 520 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 2: and so that's what kind of brings me back home, 521 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 2: you know, if I kind of let go of that 522 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: potential judgment that I have, because there's times that there's 523 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: times that I have neighbors come over and they'll ask 524 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: me about him, like is he okay? And I'm like, 525 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 2: he doesn't feel this cold like my goats. See that 526 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: little shivering guy, Like that's why I'm stacking the straw 527 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 2: up to hear. That's another thing of people think you're 528 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 2: getting goats when it comes to these weather extremes. Like 529 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: I'm running water out five times a day because their 530 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: water keeps freezing. I'm, you know, like I'm constantly having 531 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 2: to make sure that they got enough heat. But you 532 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: can't bring heat lamps because if you bring heat lamps 533 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 2: then it makes some shed their winter coat and then 534 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: they're really unprepared if anything goes wrong with the heat lamp. 535 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: It cannot be too cold, they cannot be too hot. 536 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 2: You kind of have to just like help them, but 537 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: like don't nurture them too much, right, actually descend for themselves. Yeah, 538 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 2: So it's just been a wild ride to you, just a. 539 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 3: Lot of learning across the board. 540 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: It's interesting though with Bear, like I think about all 541 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: the other I mean, I'm sure the majority of our 542 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: listeners and you and I include it with our dogs. 543 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: Our dogs like live like better than most humans. They're pampered. 544 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: But there are so many cultures and other countries where like, 545 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: these animals have a job and they're happy doing their job, 546 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: I think, And so as long as they have access 547 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: to shelter, food, water, like all the things that you're providing, 548 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: I mean I think that I'm sure Bear has a 549 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: beautiful life. 550 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I keep telling myself. My husband keeps 551 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 2: being like, come down, yeah, yeah, you're fine. Yeah, but no, 552 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: that's what we kind of keep telling ourselves too. Like 553 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, dogs were domesticated for 554 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 2: a reason, you know, And like that's another argument that 555 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 2: you always hear, Like dogs were domesticated for a reason, 556 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 2: and because in the lane of survival, we offered each 557 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: other something. I mean, that's what created that bond, right, 558 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 2: And so it's like you and with horses, yeah, and 559 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 2: with horses, that's kind of how we did it. And 560 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: I think sometimes we obviously can take advantage of that 561 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 2: as humans. And you know, that's where neglect comes in. 562 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: But neglect has to be present, and there's no neglect here, right, 563 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: and that's what I have to kind of remind myself of. 564 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 3: Right, You're like, but should I get him Egyptian cotton? 565 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, does he mean like a king sized bed? 566 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that's funny. Okay, so we've got bear mm hmm. 567 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: Next on the dock is Smoke. 568 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: Smoke was my second husky, which was supposed to be 569 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: like a cure's protege. 570 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 3: Okay, and Akira was like, no, thank you, no, and. 571 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 2: It went actually south fast. Akira said no thank you 572 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: without the thank you, just said no and did not 573 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: like smoke, and Smoke really wanted to like a Kira. 574 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 2: And Akira said, I'm gonna sit in my corner and 575 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: you can have whatever you want, but not nowhere near me. 576 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 3: Nowhere near you? 577 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: Oh her Okay, yeah, yeah, she's very protective of me, 578 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: but now in her old age, Like if she was 579 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: in her prime, I think my house would be fight club. 580 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 3: Really do, then you'd really have animals on you. 581 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 2: Because she she came to me, really, she had her 582 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 2: issues when she came to me, and we've come a 583 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: long way. But she's not a big fan of dogs, 584 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: so I but she liked huskies, like always at the 585 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: dog park, loved huskies. So you're like, well, we'll get 586 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: you one, and she said that's them at the park. 587 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: She's like, you really read the whole room long. But anyways, 588 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 2: Smoke came in. Smoke's a great dog. She's very much 589 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 2: typical husky, like a curra is like unique in her 590 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 2: own way. Smoke is like loud, talks to twenty four seven. Yeah, 591 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 2: like all of the things husky. If you looked up 592 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,959 Speaker 2: the definition I think would be her genuine face, like 593 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: she is. 594 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: Like the textbook poster child she is. I feel like 595 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 3: people don't. 596 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: That's interesting because so many people I hear like in 597 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: the city, you want to get a husky, and I'm like. 598 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 3: Ooh, I wouldn't do that. No. They have very high energy, 599 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 3: very talkative. 600 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, shed more than you could ever imagine. Yeah, 601 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 2: but they're smart. And I always say, like husky in 602 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 2: my experience, like with a dog wants to serve you 603 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 2: in some ways, like wants to make you happy, or 604 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: like wants to like bond with you and stuggle with you. 605 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: Huskis are like I'll live with you and we'll be roommates. 606 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: But you show me respect, yeah, and I'll show you. 607 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 3: Respect, yeah exactly. 608 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: And I'll give you exactly what I want to give you. Yeah, 609 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: and you can try. 610 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 3: But like I got this, yeah exactly. That's actually a 611 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 3: very cat like too. Cats are kind of like. 612 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: That, very cat like. Cuties are very cat like. Everyone 613 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: jokes around that a cure is a cat. A Kira 614 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 2: is gonna sniff every inch of this room. By the way, 615 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 2: she will not settle until she knows everything that's going on. 616 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: Then she'll lay down. She's very cat like us, but 617 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: calmer like Curreas. Never chewed anything, so for one shoe 618 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: of my best friends, I don't think she'll ever forgive before. 619 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 3: If you're listening, we're sorry, so sorry. 620 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,479 Speaker 2: But she never chewed anything, never really dug she At 621 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: the time when I had her, we lived like gypsies 622 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: because I was eighteen. But anyways, we lived with a 623 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 2: lot of land, so there'd be times where I just 624 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: let her run, like we're in the middle of nowhere Alberta, Canada, 625 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 2: if anybody know what that means, Like literally it's so flat, 626 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 2: I could probably see her run like tundra. Yeah exactly. 627 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 2: And so she lived like a little wolf out there. 628 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 2: Like she just would run for hours and then come 629 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 2: home and sometimes she'd catch a. 630 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 3: Bird some and that's what they need. 631 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: I feel like being like cooped up in an apartment 632 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 1: or in the city like that can just be really 633 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: hard for them. 634 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 2: Smoke is my biggest investment, really enough training I've had 635 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: to spend on Smoky to be like a dog is 636 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: insane to the point where like my husband's like, we 637 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 2: can ever do another husky because of it, and I'm like. 638 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 3: Well we will. She just ruined it for you guys. 639 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 2: Like little do you know this is not my last reusky? 640 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 2: That's funny, But no, Akira, I think was just the 641 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 2: perfect recipe and just how she was born. She was 642 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: one of those unique ones. Fact was it called factory 643 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: setting dogs? 644 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 645 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. She just came perfectly for the environment that she 646 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 2: was in. 647 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: I love the story about Jake. Jake for everyone listening. 648 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: Jake was a Wags and Walks puppy and I met him. 649 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: He came in for his intake exam with me, and 650 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: he came with his sister. Her name was Josie. Funny enough, 651 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: and they were these big like maybe the biggest yellow 652 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: lab puppies I've ever seen, like huge belly, probably full 653 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: of worms, and they were the Actually I can guarantee 654 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: you they were because I ran their feecals on them 655 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: and I they were left in one of our exam rooms. 656 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: Whoever had transferred them or transported them to the hospital 657 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: had to go out and park their car. And I'm 658 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: going in to go look at Jake and Josie and 659 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: I like get the smell and I'm like, this isn't good. 660 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: And then I opened the door and Jake's just sitting 661 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: there with like his stanky leg, his big belly's out 662 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: and he's just staring at me and there's like ten 663 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: piles of diarrhea and he's like suck And I was like, 664 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: oh my god. 665 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like Jake. I mean, if Jake eats 666 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 2: like a crumb on the ground, his stomach's ract. Yeah, 667 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: Jake has just had stomach juice. He said, g alreadya 668 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: three times. We don't know how very lab of him. 669 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 670 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: I think he just eats everything anything that falls on 671 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: the ground. 672 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 673 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 2: So Jake was our foster fail. He was the second 674 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: time we've ever fostered with wags. And I was you know, 675 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 2: very content with the animals we had, and my husband 676 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: was never been a fan of one me all getting 677 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: all the period. And secondly like even fostering. He's like, 678 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: we don't need more responsibility at this point, and like 679 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: we're doing this again. We're doing it. And so I 680 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 2: brought Jake home and him and Jake started a bond. 681 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 2: There's not very many boys in my house. We are 682 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: very feminine, formal between the animals and the children. Yeah, 683 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 2: they do. And so uh, once Jake came in, him 684 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 2: and my husband really bonded. And Jake is when people 685 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: meet Jake. Someone said it before, they're like someone could 686 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: write a movie about Jake, Like he'd be like a movie. 687 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: People would cry over just watching him because he's so 688 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 2: sweet and he's so he just wants to be. 689 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 3: Loved as like a jock with the sensitive jock. 690 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like he's like you look at him and 691 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: he's just on his belly, like like everything about him 692 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: is just like love me and I love you and 693 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 2: all the things. So he calls him a bag of 694 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 2: water because when you pick him up, he's just like 695 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 2: he's just lim. Yeah, he's just a squishy. So one 696 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,479 Speaker 2: day we're supposed to meet and then a potential adopter 697 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 2: and we went to go do the meeting and our 698 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: assistant had Jake somewhere I can't remember where he was, 699 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 2: and Taylor came in and he goes, where's Jake, And 700 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, you got adopted, like just jerking around 701 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 2: and my husband started like tearing up, and I was like, 702 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,239 Speaker 2: oh my god. I did not see this coming. I 703 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: was like, Oh, he's not adopted, he's here, but like, 704 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: are we keeping Jake that? Like, because he never bonds 705 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 2: with animals like this, Yeah, it's so rare, and so 706 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: I was like, like, we can have the conversation and 707 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: he was like yeah. At the time, he was still 708 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 2: playing football. So he's like, I'm gone a ton, But 709 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: you know, I really really wanted with Jake and I 710 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 2: really enjoy him and he's my boy. I was like, okay, 711 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 2: we can do it. 712 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: Are they still like is that he was here today? 713 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: And I was like, who's your favorite? 714 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 2: He'd be like Jake, Oh, yeah, okay, well Akira. A 715 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 2: Kira is kind of the just unspoken, like she's the classhouse. 716 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: Yeah like that nobody would ever beat a Cia, right right, 717 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 2: But Jake is for sure his boy like a son. 718 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: Yeah son, he never had the closest thing. He's getting 719 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: into one of this one. But yeah, he's Jake's person 720 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: is Smoke. 721 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 3: Okay. 722 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, So the best thing that we ever did was 723 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: get Jake because a Cure completely rejected Smoke, so Smoke 724 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 2: was on her own. And then Jake and Smoke bonded. 725 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: Not that I'm recommending that people get three dogs because. 726 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 3: If you're we're not working out with one, just get five. 727 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 3: It's fine, that's the motto. 728 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: But it is a lot. Yeah, so Smoke and Jake. 729 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 2: But again, Smoke was one. Jake was six months right, 730 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: so having puppies grow up together. 731 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 3: Whoa, it's like the Bash Brothers. It's a lot. 732 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 2: It still is. But we made a rule and I'd 733 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 2: recommend it for anybody that no playing in the house, 734 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: but outside they just go absolutely ham So like a 735 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: lot of times I'll ask to go outside just to 736 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: go absolutely insane. Yeah, that's the best we can do. 737 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 2: Not that they don't try to play in the house, right, 738 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 2: but that's the kind of like rule because if not, 739 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 2: I think. 740 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 3: It would just be creation. 741 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: I do, Okay, I don't create her, but she Both 742 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 2: of those are my first created dogs, and I could 743 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 2: not imagine not. 744 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 3: Yes, that's how I feel. 745 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: I have a shepherd at home and he's young and rambunctious, 746 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: and we have to create him, and it's like the best. 747 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 3: He likes us creat he does. 748 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 2: It's like a little bit structure. Yeah, And it's so 749 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 2: routine for them. They don't know any better, to be honest, 750 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: They just I say go home, and they go home, 751 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 2: and they go to bed, and. 752 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 3: It's perfect and your house stays intact. 753 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, for the most part, Between toddlers, dogs, it's just funnies, goats, chickens. 754 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: Wasn't great. 755 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: One thing that we had talked about that I think 756 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people will be able to connect with 757 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: and really resonate with, is I know how bonded you 758 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: are with Akira, but I feel like just having her 759 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: since you were a teenager and you know you had 760 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: shared with me, like going through some like really hard 761 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: family hardships with you know, family members passing away, and 762 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: like having that bond with her. I feel like so 763 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,959 Speaker 1: many of us bond with our animals because of the 764 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: own traumas that we experience and like the way we 765 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: rely on them. 766 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I was eighteen, and honestly, if anybody who's 767 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 2: a big animal advocate in their early twenties, I actually 768 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: would say, get a dog. Yes, Like, if you have 769 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 2: the means for it, it's it'll be the best experience 770 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 2: you ever have with a dog. I agree, before the 771 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 2: kids come and the husband comes and all the other 772 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 2: things come, Like, your dog will just do so much 773 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 2: for you. But I got a cure at eighteen when 774 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 2: I had no business getting an honor and I got 775 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 2: her after my my uncle had committed suicide right after 776 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 2: my eighteenth birthday and graduation. And then I was kind 777 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 2: of like it kind of like diff like I had 778 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 2: a great childhood. My family's incredible, and it was the 779 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 2: first time I kind of saw the bubble pop, you know, 780 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 2: especially like you're coming into an adulthood too. There's just 781 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 2: so much going on, and so at that time in 782 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 2: my life, it was like, you know, the people who 783 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 2: were my rocks were really sad, and so all of a sudden, 784 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 2: I was just like, I kind of think I need 785 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 2: to leave. Because I came from a small town. I 786 00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 2: was like, I think I need to go away for 787 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 2: while and go figure out who I am. So I 788 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 2: moved to Calgary, which is like eight hours away from 789 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 2: my hometown, and that's where I found her. And right 790 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 2: right before I found her, my mom's boyfriend, like my 791 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 2: stepdad of ten years, he committed suicide. Wow, it was 792 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 2: just back to back. It was crazy. It's almost you know. 793 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 3: When you're eighteen, like it's hard to process that. 794 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he had two sons that were like my 795 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 2: little brothers that were now gone, you know, because we 796 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 2: didn't get to see them anymore because of his situation. 797 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 2: And so I got a Kira and a care kind 798 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 2: of just fell into my life. And I think that 799 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 2: like I got a Curio. She was probably six months. 800 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: She didn't come like from the best situation. I don't 801 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 2: think she had a lot of aggression issues. They I 802 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 2: never know. It's like I'm thinking, like, oh, they're gonna listen. 803 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 3: To this, Okay, probably not. 804 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 2: They called her eat them like they wanted a different 805 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 2: path for her, okay, you know, like she had like 806 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 2: a bad to the bone collar on and stuff. Okay, 807 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: So I ended up getting her and we just I 808 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 2: mean she came everywhere with me, like we would go hiking, 809 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 2: if I went to I would become a yoga instructor. 810 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 2: Is the first thing I did after high school. And 811 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 2: she would like sit on my yoga mat with me, 812 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 2: and or she'd it was with winter, and I'd make 813 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 2: a little nest for her, and she'd sit in my 814 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 2: car while I was in class, and you know, anything 815 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 2: that happened, she was with me. I never left her 816 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 2: at home, And I mean, I can't tell you how 817 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 2: many times I've buried my face into her fur, like 818 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 2: she's got the world's softest fur. But she was always 819 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: very and even now like a cat like. I love 820 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 2: that she's facing away from the camera because that's exactly 821 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 2: where she should be because she doesn't care about people 822 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 2: very much unless unless she truly bonds with you, and 823 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 2: then you're almost you feel chosen. Yeah, yeah, so many 824 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 2: of my friends, like the day that a Kiara passes, 825 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 2: if I was to through a funeral, they'd be like 826 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 2: five people, but they would be crying so hard that 827 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 2: they'd be like an ugly cry. 828 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 3: Her chosen circle, small circle exactly. 829 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 2: I think that, and I said this to you that 830 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 2: I think that when building my foundation up from the 831 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 2: grief that I was feeling at Kira a Kia was like. 832 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 3: She was your girl. 833 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 2: She was a lot of those bricks. Yeah, And I assume, 834 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 2: especially because when I talk about it, that when she passes, 835 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,479 Speaker 2: I think some of those bricks will fall. 836 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 3: It's hard. 837 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: I mean being in your early twenties and eighteen nineteen, 838 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty that's hard enough. And then having you know, 839 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: losing people on top of that. 840 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're discovering yourself, you know. And so like I 841 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 2: was never alone, souse, I had a Kira. So like, 842 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:30,959 Speaker 2: if I want to go for a hike, I could, 843 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 2: you know, side a Kira, If I want to go 844 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 2: for a kayak, I could. And she was always down 845 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 2: for everything, right, That's what I loved about her, Like, 846 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 2: I mean, she moved to Florida with me, then we 847 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 2: came up to Nashville and she's you know, I always 848 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 2: had this thing with her that I needed her to 849 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 2: meet all my kids. Yeah, not that she loved kids, 850 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 2: She's just really good. 851 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 3: Like this is about me. 852 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 2: It was like, you got to meet all my kids 853 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 2: and me and my husband have been gone to playing 854 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 2: number three and she's actually like a big part of 855 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 2: that because she's getting slower and that's been hard for 856 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 2: me to swallow. Like she lost her eye to cancer 857 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 2: three four years ago, and that was kind of the 858 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: first Okay, like she's not invincible, you know, like the 859 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 2: day's coming, and you know the days it's like I have, 860 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 2: the day is shorter to win. I don't have her 861 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 2: to win, I did, you know what I mean? Like 862 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 2: that's around the corner. And so when she lost her 863 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 2: eye to cancer, that was an eye opening experience. But 864 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,439 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, I went through something weird 865 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 2: and I don't know if anyone would be able to 866 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 2: relate with this. I carried guilt about it, but I 867 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 2: found that I avoided Akira for a while. 868 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 3: Yes, I've had a lot of clients, yeah, not to me. 869 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 2: And I didn't notice it, but I found that like 870 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 2: I gotten routine with her, but I didn't like go 871 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 2: see her or like do things with her. I kind 872 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,879 Speaker 2: of avoided her. And it was because she was aging. 873 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 3: And I did like a coping mechanism almost yeah. 874 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 2: And I didn't know I was doing it. And then 875 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 2: one day I kind of had to like go to 876 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 2: the terms of like you know, she's gray, she's white, 877 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 2: she gets up slower, she's different. You know, she's not 878 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 2: who she was in her prime. And I had a good, 879 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 2: solid cry about it and then we even good ever 880 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 2: since we're back. 881 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's hard to they've been, she's been 882 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: with you such a huge part of your life, and 883 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: trying to picture life without her, I'm sure feels impossible. 884 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't remember life before her, you know, like 885 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 2: it's like majority like my whole adult life, she's been 886 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 2: in it, you know, and it's like before her, I 887 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 2: was a kid. Yeah, And so like that's just as 888 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 2: hard as this grief will be. 889 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 3: I will. 890 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm so thankful, yeah, you know. 891 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: And it's like she walked you through your hardest some 892 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 1: of your hardest days, I'm sure. And now look at 893 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: this beautiful life you have from when you were eighteen, 894 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: and so she's gotten you to where you are, and 895 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: when it's her time, you know, she'll leave you better 896 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: than she found you. 897 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've you know, I've always I've always said I 898 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 2: don't think a care will ever go until she knows 899 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 2: I'm good. 900 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe that. I do believe that. 901 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: And I'm and just think that what you said about 902 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 1: like especially being a woman and not not not for 903 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 1: the guys out there, but for women like that are 904 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: young and in their twenties, like that relationship you have 905 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: with your dog, you were like, it is the deepest 906 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:12,879 Speaker 1: bond in the world. 907 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 3: It's unbeatable. 908 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 2: And then like I truly believe, and I you know, 909 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 2: I've asked some people like older, like my grandparents and 910 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 2: stuff like that. I'm like, I believe there's like a 911 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 2: soul dog that you have in a lifetime. Like I 912 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 2: love all my dogs, but then there's a dog who's 913 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 2: like literally a piece of you. And my grandparents are like, yeah, 914 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 2: that was this dog for me or that dog for me. 915 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 2: And I think that the the catch of this is 916 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 2: I think she came to me exactly when I needed her, 917 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 2: cause I was going through really traumatic events in my life. 918 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 2: But it's a bummer that, like I have so much 919 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 2: my life to live without her. Yeah, and I think 920 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 2: that's the trade that you kind of make. But she's 921 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 2: one hundred percent my soul dog. She's a piece of me. 922 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 2: Like yeah, I mean, even my friends always joke around, 923 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 2: They're like, I don't know what we're gonna do for 924 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 2: you and a cure douse. My husband's like I don't know, 925 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 2: like what we do, Like do we pack the kids 926 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 2: up and we leave for a bit like, do you 927 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 2: need to go somewhere? Do I get another dog? 928 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 3: Like, He's like, I need a roadmap. 929 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 2: He's like, what's the plan of Actually he's like can 930 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 2: you do it? Yeah? He's like should I get her stuffed? 931 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, please get my dogs. 932 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: We will not be getting her taxidermy to Taylor, Okay, 933 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: rule number. 934 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 2: One absolutely not. That's a hard noe. So there's just 935 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,879 Speaker 2: a lot to go on. But I mean, again, as 936 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 2: much as I do joke around and say that, like, 937 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to, like I tell my kids too, 938 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 2: because they're like, what are you gonna do? Like my 939 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 2: daughter asked me what I'm gonna do when a care 940 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 2: passes away, And I'm like, Mommy's gonna be different. Mommy 941 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 2: will be an all black for many miny months exactly. 942 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm so thankful for her. Yeah, I mean, 943 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 2: like especially because not everybody gets to have a dog 944 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 2: till er twelve. Yeah, you know it's like when we're 945 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 2: still going and you know I always woke Aroundiceick got 946 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:45,399 Speaker 2: five good years with her. 947 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, age is just a number, and she like her. 948 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 1: I can tell you her blood works perfect. Yeah, she's 949 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,919 Speaker 1: she's got many years left, I would say. 950 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm just you know, I got I'm just 951 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 2: so lucky with her that when she when she does pass, 952 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 2: not that I will gree it, but like I have 953 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 2: more gratitude than anything absolutely for her. So, I mean 954 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,439 Speaker 2: she's the reason why I'm such a crazy dog lady. 955 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 2: I just keep kidding because you know everything that she's 956 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 2: done for me. 957 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 3: She opened can of worm, Oh yeah. 958 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 2: For sure. And she opened up the can of husky worms, 959 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 2: so which she fooled me. Yeah, she's not like the 960 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,800 Speaker 2: old bait and switch. Yes, I just fostered two huskies 961 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 2: for weggs, okay, and they're really special. Yeah they give 962 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 2: a cua vibes to me. Yeah, no, believe me. Even 963 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 2: my husband was like trade smoke, like. 964 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 3: Poor sm girl. 965 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 2: She she's such a good girl now, especially before she 966 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 2: was a little feral, but now she's amazing, like, yeah, 967 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 2: the investment paid off. Like she's truly she's so special 968 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 2: and she's my little like bel girl. If I brought 969 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 2: her here, she'd be like belcrode to me. 970 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:50,359 Speaker 3: Love that. 971 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's the best. I mean she's a hard time 972 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 2: because she's got a lot of energy, But I think 973 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 2: she's the best it would be a big debate in 974 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 2: the household with my husband. But I think she's a it's. 975 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 3: All that matters. 976 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing I always love to end this podcast 977 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: on a positive note. 978 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 3: What is something that you guys do? I feel like 979 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 3: a lot of us. 980 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: When we're at home and no one's watching, Like, is 981 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: there anything that you guys do with your animals? Like 982 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 1: I have had someone on here that like sings a 983 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 1: song to her dog, Bobby Bones, like to let his 984 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: dogs out in the middle of the night and like 985 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: run free like anything. 986 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 3: But you guys do. 987 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I'll, I mean we a cure. We 988 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 2: dress up for every holiday, which is so funny because 989 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 2: she's the last of them all that would appreciate feeling 990 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 2: like she probably hates it because to the pictures, like 991 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 2: the drench she looks so upset. She like dresses. Yeah, 992 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 2: like I've put like two teos on her, like I 993 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 2: put like little Irish caps like. 994 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 3: That is amazing. 995 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got so much of that. But we also 996 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 2: dance like she'll as much as she's a little like 997 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 2: stick in the mud at times of their personality, if 998 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 2: I've got a song and I'm dancing, she'll actually come 999 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 2: into the kitchen to dance with me. But my husband. 1000 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 3: Daughter's Jake in a way. 1001 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 2: Because Jake is like, even if I'm like sitting here 1002 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 2: and I do like bad if I do that, Jakes 1003 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,439 Speaker 2: like if you change your body, like immediately he's away 1004 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 2: and he's like, well, what's going on, stranger. Yeah, so 1005 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 2: Taylor will go put like a mask on or something 1006 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 2: and like go outside in the windows and iron. Poor 1007 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 2: Jigs probably lost. So when he hears of his life, 1008 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,359 Speaker 2: but Taylor tells me it's because he's preparing him in 1009 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 2: case there's an intruder. And I'm like, well, okay, I 1010 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 2: guess we learned that Jake's really scared of he is 1011 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 2: not the guard dog. No, we've got other dogs really 1012 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 2: hard to call beer. Yeah exactly. But I mean we're 1013 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 2: always up, We're always up to something with them. But 1014 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 2: that would probably be the little weird nuances we do. 1015 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 1: With funny, like they're just such a part of or 1016 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 1: family and like the antics that you do with them 1017 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 1: at home and no one's watching, You're like, people would 1018 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: think we're insane. 1019 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,959 Speaker 2: Oh for sure, for sure. 1020 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 3: I love it. 1021 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for coming on, Thanks for sharing. 1022 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 1: Thanks about all your animals. They're so special and I'm 1023 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: going to keep watching your farm on Instagram. 1024 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:56,760 Speaker 3: It's amazing. 1025 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. 1026 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: Everyone gives Taylor a follow. Her farm looks amazing, her 1027 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 1: animals look amazing. It's at tailing Lawan. 1028 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 2: All right. 1029 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: That was tailing the wan, and I'm so glad that 1030 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: we got to learn so much from her. And I'm 1031 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 1: gonna have to keep up with her socials and keep 1032 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,280 Speaker 1: learning because there are when you like I've had horses 1033 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: and dogs, but when you venture out to other farm animals, 1034 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,919 Speaker 1: like there is a learning curve with every single one. 1035 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: So that was interesting. 1036 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely. 1037 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 1: I think people think I'm gonna get a few chickens 1038 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 1: or some goats, but you don't realize like all the 1039 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: responsibilities and yeah, I did not know don'ts that come 1040 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 1: with it. 1041 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 3: So so yeah, she was a great guest. I'm glad 1042 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 3: we had her on today. 1043 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: Yeah I've never because I've thought about getting chickens to 1044 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: have her own eggs, but make sure a lot more 1045 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: you get the gas masks. Ye, clean out there coop, 1046 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: they're coop, they're poop in the coop, all right. So 1047 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: we are going to move on from tailing the one 1048 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: and get to pawn order this week, So do does 1049 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: and dolts? 1050 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,439 Speaker 3: What are we doing all right? Paul? 1051 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,399 Speaker 1: And order Number one on the list this week is 1052 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: I would not let my significant other husbands take my 1053 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 1: pet to the vet unless they are super involved and 1054 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,240 Speaker 1: the caretaking and they know what's going on. Now, listen, 1055 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: I love my husband dearly. There are some husbands that 1056 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: come in and are amazing, like they take care of 1057 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 1: the animal, they know what they eat, they know when 1058 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: they poop, they know everything. But I'm going to say 1059 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 1: the overwhelming majority do not fit that bill and so 1060 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 1: I love that they're helping out and I love that 1061 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: they're bringing the pet in. But for us veteran Harians, 1062 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: it can be frustrating because we'll be like, you know, 1063 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 1: what's the dog eat? I don't know, okay? And what 1064 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 1: prevention are they on? I don't know okay, And then 1065 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 1: we'll get through the whole exam and they'll be like, 1066 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,240 Speaker 1: you know what, I think I need to call my wife. 1067 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 3: You're like, yes, or send her here? Can we have 1068 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 3: called her forty minutes ago? 1069 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: So if you are going to come, I do have 1070 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,439 Speaker 1: some wives now that will write me a note being 1071 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: like this is what the pet's here for. This is 1072 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying at home, This is the meds that 1073 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: they're on. And then they send their husband with the 1074 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 1: pet and the note yeah, which I think is very 1075 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 1: funny and. 1076 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 3: Also very smart. 1077 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: Yes, because I couldn't take our cat to the ved 1078 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 1: the other day, so I literally I sent Stephen with 1079 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 1: like his shot, like his vaccine records, what he's been eating, 1080 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: what he's been doing, like last time. 1081 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 3: He was seen with like a whole thing. I was like, 1082 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 3: this is dummy proof. 1083 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 1: You cannot fail at this, and he was like, thank 1084 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 1: you so much for doing this, because normally I have 1085 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:24,919 Speaker 1: to call you every time. 1086 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, I know, so don't do that anyways. 1087 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 1: The worst is sometimes the husband will come in and 1088 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 1: the pet sick and I'll be like, okay, well we 1089 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: need to do X, Y and Z, you know, and 1090 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,320 Speaker 1: then he'll be like, you know, I think my wife's 1091 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 1: just being exaggerating, like I don't think this pet sick 1092 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: will be fine, just give us a medicine and we'll go. 1093 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 3: And then the wife will call and be like, why 1094 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 3: didn't you do any tests? 1095 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, I'm like your husband, she said, no, 1096 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: your husband told me no, So, yeah, I don't want 1097 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,760 Speaker 1: to start any marital fights. 1098 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 3: Be prepared, like Shannon, I love that. 1099 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like sending your sorry honey, I have to 1100 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 1: say this, but it's like sending your significant other grocery store. 1101 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,760 Speaker 1: Like if you don't send a list, you're not getting 1102 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 1: what you need. You're gonna ask for cottage cheese and 1103 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna get sour cream. Yeah. Send them with like 1104 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,879 Speaker 1: a dummy proof, just like all the records they need, 1105 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: all the questions you need to ask. 1106 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you'll be fine, yep. Or just call doctor Josie. 1107 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, directly, directly, Okay, number two on the list, we 1108 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 1: do not want to bring any lilies into the household 1109 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: if you own a cat. The entire plant lily plant 1110 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,839 Speaker 1: is toxic, so the stem, the leaves, the pollens, even 1111 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: the water in the vase. And cats like to drink 1112 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 1: you know, standing water on countertops. And it's not just 1113 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,760 Speaker 1: like a mile toxicity. They can get fatal kidney failure. 1114 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 3: Wow. Yep, they need to put a warning on Lili's 1115 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 3: so not know that. So easter time funerals anything like that. 1116 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,280 Speaker 1: If you have a cat, no lilies, man, that's scary 1117 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: because I mean, is there other plants. I'm sure there are, 1118 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: but is lilies like the main one, yescause it's more 1119 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:54,839 Speaker 1: common that you have them in your house. 1120 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you cannot. 1121 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 1: There's a website like the ASPCA Plant Toxicity Okay direct, 1122 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,840 Speaker 1: you can basically go through all the plants. But lilies 1123 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,840 Speaker 1: is like the one that with cats, like we really have. 1124 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 1: That's scary because we've definitely we have a cat. He's 1125 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: not allowed on the counters, but yeah, sometimes he does 1126 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: and he gets in trouble. But we've definitely had lilies 1127 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,359 Speaker 1: in the house. Yeah, well he's okay, Murphy. That's why 1128 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 1: you don't know, you really counter buddy exactly. Yeah, that's 1129 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 1: good to know, all right. Number three on this week's list, 1130 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: I would not let my dog lick my baby's face. 1131 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 1: I just watched a TikTok video of this, and it's 1132 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: so cute and endearing. But y'all, their mouth, it's a 1133 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 1: great myth that their mouth is cleaner than ours. That 1134 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 1: is so not true. They are licking their own butts. 1135 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: They are eating dog food, and it makes me when 1136 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 1: I watch them, like, yeah, this face is my like 1137 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 1: little eyeball starts to twitch a little bit, so better 1138 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: safe than sorry. I would not let them lock my 1139 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 1: baby's sace. I just wouldn't. Yeah, I know, I was, 1140 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 1: I think because I had a frenchie and she had 1141 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,799 Speaker 1: the most disgusting mouth on the planet. Like we did 1142 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: all the fetwork that was necessary, but it was just 1143 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 1: like not a good mouth health And all she wanted 1144 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 1: to do was try to lick our son's face. And 1145 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 1: everyone thought I was crazy because I was constantly like 1146 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: diving to be like no if she was about to, Yeah, 1147 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, it's not a big deal. 1148 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, you have no idea how gross her mouth is. 1149 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 1: And he does not need that all up in his business. Yeah, 1150 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 1: And that's it's like being older adults like a look 1151 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 1: to the face and some kisses are fine, but when 1152 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,440 Speaker 1: they're younger or you know, a lot older, they are 1153 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 1: just naturally amino compromise. Yeah, because of their age. So yeah, 1154 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,399 Speaker 1: I think it's better safe than sorry. Don't do it, yep, 1155 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 1: don't do it? All right, Well, thanks so much for 1156 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: joining us this week on in the Vet's Office. 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