1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: How do we start this one off? 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Guys, I guess just get into this shit, man. 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 3: I mean a fucking dreary ass, fucked up ass, damn 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 3: man dog man. 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: Like I just I was crazy when Mike, when you 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: sent the when you sent the the tech the tweet 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: from your your your little. 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: Homie, Peyton was talking about how he's immortal. 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm twenty years older than Peyton and I'm 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: looking at these fucking photos and feeling the exact same way, 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: like as far as like the how he seemed like 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: this couldn't happen to Kobe, you know what I'm saying, 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 2: And in this way, you know, with his with his 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: daughter's who seemed like she had Kobe running all through her, 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like they were attached at 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: the hip. 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, if it feels it definitely feels like he had 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 3: a special bond with GG because GG loved basketball more 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 3: than the other ones they didn't. And you know a 20 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: couple of them were young, and he's got the older 21 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 3: one who wasn't in the hoops. 22 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 4: So you know, it seems like he definitely bonded with. 23 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 3: GG in a way because she was a hoops fucking 24 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: fanatic like him, and it's just it's just. 25 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 4: So fucked up that that bond. 26 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 3: Is what did them in, you know what I mean, 27 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: And it's it's life is so fucking it Like, it's 28 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: just it doesn't make sense to me, man. 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 5: I mean, we were we were in a group chat. 30 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 5: I don't even remember what we were talking about, like 31 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 5: something completely different, and I think John, I think you 32 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 5: were the person who first saw it or whatever. Yeah, 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 5: And so I went on Twitter and saw the ship 34 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 5: from TMZ and it was like a it was like 35 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 5: a true, like out of body experience. Like I felt 36 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 5: the same way when my mom called to tell me 37 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 5: my dad died, and I felt the same way on 38 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 5: nine to eleven. Those are the only other times I 39 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 5: can remember seeing something and my brain just like it 40 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 5: was like my brain rejected it, you know what I mean. 41 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 5: It was like, oh no, that, I mean, that can't 42 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 5: be true. So your eyes must not be working and 43 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 5: your phone must be broken, and John must be crazy, 44 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like every other thing being 45 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 5: wrong would have made more sense than that headline being 46 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 5: true because we all the three of us, talked about 47 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 5: this after his final game. I think everyone who's a 48 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 5: basketball fan saw what he was gonna look like when 49 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 5: he was Bill Russell, when he was the sixty seventy 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 5: year old dude doing interviews, you know what I mean, Like, 51 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 5: that's it. I don't know, I mean, that's that's a 52 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 5: part to me. That's so just like unimaginable. As you 53 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 5: can see where he was on his journey on like 54 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 5: an eighty year journey with the sport as an ambassador, 55 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 5: as everything else, and the fact that that ended is like, 56 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 5: I don't know, it's just like a pop. 57 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 3: Yes, it's it's it's that and that's what you know 58 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 3: going on that. That's what's what's really tragic to me 59 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: is that you know, we've we saw Kobe go from 60 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: you know, the closed off, isolated kid who couldn't relate 61 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: to teammates because you know, he was a foreign kid 62 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 3: who grew up in Italy and came here and he 63 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 3: didn't get along with teammates and he wasn't outgoing and 64 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 3: all that. 65 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 4: And then you know, it's hee matured. 66 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 3: You see him becoming more alcohol and more amicable, more 67 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 3: you know, you know, you know, sharing laughs with everybody. 68 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 4: You know, it seemed like. 69 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 3: He really developed as as a personable person, someone who 70 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 3: was you know, in developing bonds and enjoying them with people. 71 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: And I was very, very very invested in, you know, 72 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: posting NBA Kobe, Like I was so. 73 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 4: Fucking excited for the Hall of Fame speech. 74 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: He was gonna give us this summer, Like we got 75 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: fucking Kobe, Fucking k KG and duncan give them speeches. 76 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: And I was like, all three of these are going 77 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: to be great because all three of them are going 78 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 3: to be them, you know, their personalities and body and 79 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: they're gonna be perfect. 80 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 4: And I know all of them are gonna knock that 81 00:03:59,480 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: shit out the pot. 82 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: And now Kobe's just not here anymore, dog, and I 83 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: just can't wrap my head around that ship. 84 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: What just what tripped me out like a lot about 85 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: him transitioning after basketball. I know Bomani actually talked about 86 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: this in MSNBC, and I was talking to this to 87 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: my buddy, talking to my buddy and John about it. 88 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: The John that was on here before the guests when 89 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: we were talking about Kobe, I was actually talking to 90 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: him and he was saying, like how we all kind 91 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: of expected Kobe once he retired to kind of like, 92 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: you know, it made sense if he became petty or 93 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: like was talking shit about the young guys. But he 94 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: went the exact opposite way. It seemed like anybody that 95 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: hit him up, he was ready to work with. It 96 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: showed there's a there's there's a message with him and 97 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: Shariff where you know, when Sharif wanted. 98 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: To get workouts and he's like hit me up, you 99 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. 100 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 2: Where he checked on Shariff after the U c l 101 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: U c l A ship like you good because Sharif 102 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: is leaving U c l A. You know what I'm saying. 103 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: We would you know, talk about him and the Shack 104 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 2: beef and shit like that, but that was that was us, 105 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: Like they were they had figured that shit out, you 106 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 107 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 5: Like they figured it out enough that they could reference 108 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 5: it in humor, Yeah, without blowing up a game, you know. 109 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: And I mean when he's checking on his kid, you 110 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like directly hitting the kid up, 111 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: you know, for workouts and also checking on seeing these 112 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: gucci you know, that's definitely love, you know what I'm saying. 113 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 5: Like Reif always referred to him as an uncle. And 114 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 5: I'll tell you it's people my kids referred to his uncle, 115 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 5: and my relationship with all those people as solid as fuck. 116 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: Obviously, right, right, right right. 117 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 5: I think when he was when he was retiring, it 118 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 5: genuinely was inspirational me. Bro, Like I was twelve years 119 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 5: old when he played with the Lakers for the first time. 120 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 5: His first game in a Lakers' uniform was in the 121 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 5: Pyramid at Long Beach State in the Summer League. I 122 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 5: was there as a twelve year old, and you know, 123 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 5: he was like the he to me. I grew up 124 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 5: idolizing MJ. And then I grew up with a deep 125 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 5: respect and love for Kobe for that like for that 126 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 5: same like the killer mentality and the intensity and all 127 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 5: the shit you've seen everyone talking about today. But what 128 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 5: genuinely where I really connected with Kobe more than I 129 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 5: ever did when he was playing, to be honest with you, 130 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 5: was as he approached retirement, and I saw someone who'd 131 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 5: had that same mentality, and it's a mentality that like 132 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 5: I and every other dumbass in the fucking world tries 133 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 5: to emulate, right, I saw him genuinely like you know, 134 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 5: dudes like like Phil Hill, like dudes who's been interviewing 135 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 5: him his whole life would be asking him like, wow, 136 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 5: this must be so hard for you to step away, 137 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 5: and his response in all those interviews for that last 138 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 5: year was just like, no, man, I'm good. You know, 139 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 5: like I achieved everything I want to know. I know 140 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 5: the Lakers stuff this year. You know, like I'm good, 141 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 5: but like I have a family I love that I 142 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 5: really want to spend time with. It was obvious that 143 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 5: he was comfortable. He was like he was able to 144 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 5: throw himself completely into the sport and then transition into 145 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 5: another step that I think we've all talked about this, 146 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 5: Like I don't think Michael Jordan ever really figured that out. 147 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 5: And so while that while his career was sort of 148 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 5: inspirational to me, Kobe's ability to like chase being happy 149 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 5: and content with the same kind of passion that he 150 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 5: chased never being satisfied, that's like so much that I 151 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 5: connect with that so much more as a man and 152 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 5: as an adult than I did as like a kid 153 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 5: who is like I have to outwork everybody or whatever. 154 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 5: You know. 155 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: I mean, look at him. He was an Oscar when 156 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: he's want to Oscar. 157 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: He was a best selling you know at a best 158 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 2: selling book. 159 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 4: You know what I'm. 160 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: Ridiculous, crazy, like velvet ass, like dog like that's what 161 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: tricks me out, you know, Like I feel I feel 162 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: like we all I feel like we kind of missed out, 163 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: like we we were supposed to see, Like Tobe had 164 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: Kobe he played in the league twenty years, he won, 165 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: uh you know, five chips, you know what I'm saying, 166 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: Like endless accolades is a basketball player, and we still 167 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: and somehow it still felt like we hadn't you know, 168 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: like we had so much more of Kobe. 169 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, There was so much more 170 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: of him to show us, you know. 171 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: And it was And I mean and when you talk 172 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: to these meat talking to a lot of these young players, 173 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: you know, Kobe was their guy. 174 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 4: Bro. 175 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: You know we're I'm a bron guy. You know, I'm 176 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: not even going from. 177 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 5: With Kobe guys. 178 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: Right with Kobe guys, that was their guy and and 179 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: and and you know we talk about like we would 180 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: argue about the gold Ship and all that, Bro, But 181 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: if you're looking at the blueprint, you know what I'm saying, 182 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: like somebody's footprint or handprint on the league, Kobe's all 183 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: over that shit. You know what I'm saying, and it's 184 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 2: it's just I mean, and then he continued these like these, 185 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: like Yanni's he worked. 186 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: What the fuck is Kobe gonna do with Yannis? A 187 00:08:58,760 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: whole long ass? 188 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: He was willing to work with Jannis Gianness. He said, 189 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 2: Yana showed up like an hour ahead of time with 190 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 2: a notepad. 191 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: Because when Kobe fucking spoke, nigga, you fucking listen. 192 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: I mean these, I mean as much as I would 193 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: talk shit about Kobe, I was at fucking I remember, 194 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 2: like dude, most of Kobe's career, I was rooting against 195 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: his ass, you feel me? And I went his last game. 196 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: There's two times that I probably really rooted for him. 197 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 2: Was the ESPN shit when I don't know if y'all 198 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: remember when that shit dropped with him like being like 199 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: forty something in the league or some shit. 200 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: Do you remember that shit? And I went, I had 201 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: a tire rate on Twitter, yeah. 202 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: Because I was like, nigga, I don't give a fuck 203 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: when he went through this, fucking Kobe, Nigga, you gotta 204 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 2: respect the motherfucking name Nigga flat out, you feel me? 205 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 2: And also when he retired the last game, I was 206 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: at Buffalo Wild Wings watching it with the woman I 207 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 2: was at end of the time, and and uh, he 208 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: started shooting all these shots and I started laughing, and 209 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 2: then he's you know, shit started, motherfucking started. 210 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: He's going for me with forty fifty. 211 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 6: All of a sudden, I'm crying and I burst into 212 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 6: tears in public over my wings. And look at me like, 213 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 6: what the fuck is wrong with you? Like I just 214 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 6: saw you rooting against him, you know what I'm saying, 215 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 6: Like most of most of you know, most of his grier. 216 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 6: We talked about this and I was just like, bro, 217 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 6: like you couldn't. You couldn't watch Kobe play. 218 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: And as much as I hated him throughout his career, 219 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 2: as far like rooting against him as a player, you 220 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, I became a fan of him 221 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: when it came to basketball. 222 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: He was much watched television. 223 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 3: To look at Kobe play and not appreciate that game. 224 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: Not appici ain't must watch television. Well you about go 225 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: ahead continue what saying. 226 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 5: No, I was. 227 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, there's no possible way you 228 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: can look at the way Kobe played, Like like I 229 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 3: was telling Mike before you hopped on, I tried, I 230 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 3: tried to watch some some YouTube clips of them earlier 231 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 3: in and usually whenever I watched Kobe YouTube clips on 232 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 3: myiring the footwork, I'm admiring, you know, how out crafty 233 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: he is. Off the Triple, I'm admiring, you know, I'm 234 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 3: stopping on the dimond and getting a bucket, and just 235 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: how beautiful this game is. And I was watching those 236 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: clips today and and and the preeminent thought was this 237 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 3: dude isn't here anymore. And I just can't wrap my 238 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 3: head around that ship. 239 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 5: Bro. 240 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I was tripping off. Like what 241 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: really bugged me out was like, I'm looking at this man. 242 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 2: It was only four years older than me, right, and 243 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 2: I'm looking at him and it's. 244 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: Just it's literally unfathomable. 245 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: At some point he can't became like a dinni god, 246 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: and we just and like I just can't understand it, 247 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: and I don't know. And what's really heartbreaking is, you know, 248 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: he went, he left with his daughter, and you know 249 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: what is what you know, what is his wife saying 250 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, like to the It's just. 251 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 5: That's the stuff I can't even like, there's just like 252 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 5: a little clothes box in my head, and shit, I 253 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 5: like if I start thinking about it, I just will 254 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 5: never stop thinking about it, you know what I mean, 255 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 5: So like because that's the I mean, I just so 256 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 5: we you know, we we we had a photographer, like 257 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 5: we got shots to him. He took gg to the 258 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 5: Pyramid to watch Oregon play Long Beach State in December, 259 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 5: and he brought you know what I mean, it was 260 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 5: the same thing that any time he went with Gigi 261 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 5: and you see bron doing the same thing with Bronny. 262 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 5: It was clearly like all right, and then who else 263 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 5: wants to come? So they had you know, like half 264 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 5: the team sitting court side of the pyramid, and like 265 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 5: that was his life, you know what I mean, Like 266 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 5: that was all he wanted to do. And I've told 267 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 5: this story. I'm sure we'll tell some more stories later 268 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 5: in the pod. But like most people are pretty closed off, bro, 269 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 5: Like when Drake came to the Pyramid to watch his 270 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 5: goddaughter play volleyball for Long Beach State. I mean, he 271 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 5: had ninety security people around fro you. 272 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 4: Know what I mean. 273 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 5: And I don't begrudget that at all. 274 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but. 275 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 5: It was amazing to me to see Kobe just showed up. 276 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 5: He barely even told the people in Long Beach State 277 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 5: ahead of time he was coming. A friend of mine 278 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 5: who is a booster. He ended up sitting in his seat, 279 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 5: and so when my friend got there, he walked up 280 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 5: to him and said, excuse me, sir, you're in my seat, 281 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 5: and then they both like cracked up about it. Then 282 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 5: my friend went and sat down the line. You know, 283 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 5: but like that is unusual, and I don't think you 284 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 5: could like stress that enough. But he like he liked that, 285 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 5: and Gianna liked that that. It was like she liked 286 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 5: being his little side kids and the one who was 287 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 5: gonna like live up to who he was and everything, 288 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 5: and like that's so different, dude, to have people display 289 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 5: that kind of relationship publicly. I just I don't know, man, 290 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 5: I can't even imagine that. The one thing I wanted 291 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 5: to the story I wanted to tell about watching his 292 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 5: last game and then Tyler, I want to hear yours too, 293 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 5: is like, you know, I wasn't watching a lot of 294 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 5: Lakers games, bro, Like I watched Kobe's last year at 295 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 5: the Big Venues that year, but they were trash, you 296 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 5: know what I mean. Like so but we all knew 297 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 5: that was the last game. Everyone tuned in and I 298 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 5: remember shar fell asleep on the couch. I was wearing 299 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 5: my Kobe jersey. I do have a Kobe jersey, of course, 300 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 5: And as he's going off and it just becomes obvious 301 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 5: right that, it was like he's just gonna keep shooting. 302 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 5: I just got so happy that I like couldn't even 303 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 5: it was it was like it was like a memorial 304 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 5: or a celebration of life because and he made a 305 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 5: joke about it after the game and he was like, 306 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 5: all the people in this arena had been yelling at 307 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 5: me to pass for twenty years. 308 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: And aw they I'll telling me to shoot. 309 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 5: But it was like every time he put a shot 310 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 5: up and it went in, like I woke up off 311 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 5: the couch. I was just jumping around. I was screaming. 312 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 5: And when he got off, and when he made that joke, 313 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 5: I just started bawling. 314 00:14:52,440 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: Brof shots ever at the last ro I love man. 315 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 5: It was genuinely and it was such a like there 316 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 5: was a real celebration, bro like and it almost felt 317 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 5: like the times that I've been alive for you know, 318 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 5: I got to see all of his championships. It kind 319 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 5: of felt like that in SoCal the next day. Bro, 320 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 5: everyone was just walking around wearing Lakers shit, grinning everyone 321 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 5: this shitty season, but it was like this dude did 322 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 5: something no one else did, Like he went out on 323 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 5: his own terms. We all got to see the legendary 324 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 5: shit like making fucking free throws on a torn achilles, 325 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 5: working his way back like that's the ship. To me, 326 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 5: that made him more legendary than the championships for the 327 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 5: stats or whatever, like that's what you see. That's what 328 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 5: you see players today talking about like who he was 329 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 5: and coming back from all that shit. But I don't 330 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 5: think we'll ever see like a better Like that was 331 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 5: a more fitting ending to his career than if they'd 332 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 5: won a championship, bro, because it was just so perfect, 333 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 5: the like singularity of the mission in that game. 334 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 3: Get buckets, that's what he was all about. And he 335 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: hit the dagger in that motherfucker too. 336 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 337 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: Is this is this the for me? 338 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: This is the first player I would say of like 339 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: this caliber that we've seen his entire career. 340 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think like maybe uh. 341 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 5: Shit, Bron's the next one. 342 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: Bron's the next one. 343 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like like you know, I didn't see all of 344 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: George's career. 345 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: I was born in eighty two, you. 346 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: Know what I mean, So and I didn't really get 347 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: into the back get into basketball to like probably I 348 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: think maybe like around his first or second you know 349 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 350 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 3: So like that's why I think Mike, like, like, I 351 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 3: don't want to play the who Kobe beats more to 352 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: the game, but I think Mike is in a very 353 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 3: fucking special spot. 354 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 4: Like you were twelve years old when Kobe started. 355 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 3: That's right at the age where you've got, you know, 356 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 3: a pretty comprehensive, you know, deep understanding of basketball and 357 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: also at the prime age where you're just you know, 358 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 3: fucking enamored by celebrities and still on some star. 359 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 4: Warship and shit. 360 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 3: So it's like you fully kind of under good, how 361 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 3: fucking good Kobe was, how much it meant, you know 362 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 3: what I mean? 363 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 5: And you got to remember too, this was I mean, 364 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 5: this was like literally Michael Jordan was walking out the door. 365 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean. 366 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Like it was like he like he he 367 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 5: was starting that last spurt, but it was like all right, man, 368 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 5: like he had just come out of retirement. Like I 369 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 5: think for for people who are kids like me. It 370 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 5: was like you had sort of grieved for and I 371 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 5: cried when Jordan retired. 372 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: Ye, only two times. 373 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: I've cried over over three times that crowdover basketball to 374 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: an NBA. One was Jordan retired, the other one was 375 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 2: Duke lost to Connecticut in ninety nine, the exact team 376 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: was wanted to lose. And then when Cooede retired. Only 377 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 2: three times I've cried over basketball. 378 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 5: So this is like, so you know, we're all like 379 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 5: and I mean we've talked about this. There were no 380 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 5: fans of NBA teams in the early nineties, bro, you 381 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 5: know what I mean, like we were. It was all 382 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 5: like how big of an MJ fan are you? 383 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. 384 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 5: So like when he retired, there was just like grieving 385 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 5: and everything. And then I just remember like we had 386 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 5: back in back in the day when the Summer League 387 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 5: was in Long Beach, you could get for like fifty dollars, 388 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 5: you could get a pass for the whole summer. So 389 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 5: I would go my mom was you know, she got 390 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 5: the pass for me, and I'd go to the Summer 391 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 5: League like basically every day and you'd see Magic Johnson 392 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 5: would just be hanging out in the stands, Bro, because 393 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 5: he had an all star team, Like you could just 394 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 5: walk up and talk to these dudes. They were just 395 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 5: hanging out, you know. And I remember, I mean it 396 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 5: was a different atmosphere than you ever seen for a 397 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 5: Summer League game. But it was the first game for 398 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 5: Kobe as a Laker, and he went out and he 399 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 5: fucking he missed his first like four shots, and then 400 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 5: he dropped fucking buckets, Bro. And I remember like he 401 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 5: was walking off, dude. And I wrote about this when 402 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 5: he retired, but like he looked back over his shoulder 403 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 5: at the crowd was going nuts for him, and he 404 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 5: just gave a little nod, you know what I mean, Like, Okay, 405 00:18:59,040 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 5: I got one. 406 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. 407 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 5: What I mean, Like I got my first room as 408 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 5: a professional, and yeah, man, obviously we just got to 409 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 5: see and you know, to be honest with you, like 410 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 5: in the Kobe Shack divorce, Bro, I was a shock kid, 411 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. 412 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: It didn't make sense to me, like some sho hated it. 413 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, like Kobe was the one who was instigating it. 414 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 5: So there was a couple of years where I was 415 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 5: like really pissed off that we lost Shack and we 416 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 5: saw Kobe and I came around and didn't you know, 417 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 5: as we got good and started to appreciate really how 418 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 5: great he was and everything, and then, like I said, 419 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 5: as you were retired, it was just like, I don't 420 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 5: think you like. Clippers fans in southern California were fucking 421 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 5: in love with that dude, you know, for his last 422 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 5: game and everything like, it was just such a I 423 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 5: don't know, but it's unique, dude, and this is a 424 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 5: hard city to have a unique career like that. 425 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's what's really crazy when you 426 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: look through his career, you know what I'm saying, Like 427 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: the air balls, you know what I'm saying. 428 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 2: Yep, yep, you know, like the Kobe and Shack thing, 429 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 2: you know, like the achilles, you know, things like that, 430 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: Like when you look and go through the ups and downs, 431 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: you know, it's it. 432 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: He seemed like he always approached the ship fearlessly. I mean, 433 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: this motherfucker tore his achilles, got up and walked to 434 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: the free throw line to hit the free free throws. 435 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like he's like I'm I'm 436 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: shooting these I mean, what, who the fuck does that? 437 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: Kobe. 438 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 5: I don't go back, just like I briefly just want 439 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 5: to like hover on how fucking alien that is. 440 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: That is insane, Bro Kobe, take your ass back to 441 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: the fucking. 442 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: To the locker room. 443 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 2: See you know you have blown you no shooting these 444 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: free throws first, then I'll go. 445 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: You know that that mindset. 446 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 5: Is just people can't Most people can't get off. And 447 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 5: I'm not all calling anyone else like a pussy. 448 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 1: No, no nothing the people. 449 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 5: Bro. You snap your achilles and look, we covered the 450 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 5: greatest volleyball player of all time, mister may To. She 451 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 5: should tell you you can't even stand up on your 452 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 5: own when you tear your fucking achilles. And this dude 453 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 5: limped to the free throw line and knock the shots down. 454 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: Bro, My sister tore her. 455 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 4: Said what I was gonna say. 456 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 3: He won a championship with a fucking with with with 457 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 3: with with with bum ligaments in his fucking right index finger, 458 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 3: the most fucking important finger when it comes to shooting, 459 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,239 Speaker 3: Like that's the last finger that the ball touches when 460 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: you're fucking shooting. And he won a championship with that. 461 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 3: Ship Man Kobe was a different breed. 462 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 2: Bro, My sister tore her achilles, and the way I 463 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 2: knew she tore it when she when she blew the ship, 464 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 2: was looking at what she grabbed immediately, and I thought 465 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: of Kobe immediately. I had to help her just to 466 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 2: get to her car. She couldn't walk. And this motherfucking 467 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: shot those free throws. 468 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: It's just insane. 469 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, even with the ship you're talking about with 470 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: the bubblingaments, bro, Like when you know if the shot 471 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: is wet based upon how it comes off your middle. 472 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: Finger and your point in your index finger. You know 473 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 474 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Howard leaves that ship tells 475 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: you if the shots whether or not, you know what 476 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: I mean. 477 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: Like, it's just he was just an alien, bro. He 478 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: was not not normal. 479 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: And it's fucking knee like they said it's at some 480 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 3: point his knee was basically fucking bone on bone. 481 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 4: At some point. 482 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 3: And this was this was fucking prime Pete Kobe too. 483 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 3: He was still out there killing went. 484 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: To where to Germany to get the ankle surgery. 485 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, right right, Wolverine surgery. 486 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 2: I mean the base that type of thinking is like 487 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: this motherfucker would have went to Mars to get the 488 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: ship done. If that's what you told him he needed 489 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: to do in order to keep playing basketball. 490 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: That's how much he loved the game. But just how approachable. 491 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: This man, Like this is a guy that you know, 492 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: like like you said, like he was he was. He 493 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: was a demi god in this city and for anybody 494 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: that loved basketball, Like even as a dude who was 495 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 2: an op on the other side. You know what I'm saying, 496 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: I would look at Kobe like, holy shit when he's playing, 497 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 2: Like I remember when he came in that one year. 498 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: With his work ethic. 499 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 2: Was he during the seat during the off season, he 500 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: worked out six days a week for six hours, two 501 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 2: hours in the gym, two hours on the track, and 502 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: two hours in the weight room. 503 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: And he came in the motherfucker. 504 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: I remember, uh uh t Mac looking at his ass 505 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 2: because he was cocky. This is the year we got together, 506 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 2: I think got forty eleven the back and looked at 507 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 2: him and shook his head and he said whoa because 508 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: T Mac was an ailing himself and he looking at 509 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: Kobe like this is different, you know what I'm saying, 510 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: And just the way and like and as a I'm 511 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,239 Speaker 2: looking at Kobe, like you know, like like damn, like 512 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 2: like the reason the reason I disliked. 513 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: Him because of how he did the people that I 514 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: liked so much. 515 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 2: You know what I meant, you know what I'm saying, 516 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: Like you knew, you knew he was dogging motherfuckers. But 517 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 2: for him to be this guy and for him to 518 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: be so approachable, you know what I'm saying. 519 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: How like he's a call away. 520 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 2: We're like a guy can call like I want to 521 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 2: you know, they want to work out, you know what 522 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 523 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: Like at the you know there was there was leaguers 524 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: working out at the at the Mamba Academy the summer. 525 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: Right. 526 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 5: You know, listen, if Robert Ory was that approachable, we 527 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 5: would all say wow, you know what I mean, Like 528 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 5: a dude who set for life financially, who had a 529 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 5: great career, is still willing to give back. But for 530 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 5: that to be the guy. 531 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 4: In LA the guy in l A. 532 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: He's not the guy in fucking Phoenix. He ain't the 533 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: guy in Memphis. And I love Memphis. I don't know 534 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: about Phoenix. I love Memphis. 535 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 5: Twenty million people, right, He's one of one in a 536 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 5: city with twenty million people. And there were so many 537 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 5: people where it was like, give him a phone call. 538 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 5: I wanted to tell one other story about the approachability. 539 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 5: Did you see Alvin Gentry talking today about remembering his 540 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 5: farewell tour, and so he was talking about how you 541 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 5: know Kobe said when he retired, he said he didn't 542 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 5: want any of the off court ceremonies and you know 543 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 5: what I mean, the video tributes or whatever. And I 544 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,719 Speaker 5: think people still did some of those. But what he 545 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,239 Speaker 5: did at every arena he went to was after the 546 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 5: game or between shoot around in the game, he would 547 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 5: sign stuff and take pictures with every person who worked 548 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 5: at that arena. And that doesn't I mean, and Alvin 549 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 5: Gentry said he was like it was plenty of coaches 550 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 5: in those arenas who wanted a picture with Kobe or 551 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 5: who wanted him to sign something for their kid or whatever. 552 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 5: But that means the ushers too, at every arena in 553 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 5: the league had the opportunity to come and take a 554 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 5: picture with that dude and just tell them that they 555 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 5: appreciated him or whatever. And that is unusual. 556 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: I mean for a guy of that caliber, it would 557 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: have been very easy for him to just play the 558 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: games and shake sign a couple of autographs in league. 559 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 2: He took the time out to do that. That means 560 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 2: a lot. That means the world to certain people, you 561 00:25:58,800 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 562 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 5: But in terms of the ambassador of the sport thing, 563 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 5: that's the other thing. And I don't remember if I've 564 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 5: told this story on the on the pot or not, 565 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 5: but I talked to you guys about I know I've 566 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 5: told you guys a story about covering the twenty twelve 567 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 5: Olympic team in London and go into a couple of 568 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 5: those practices and seeing you really saw who those dudes 569 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 5: were as people when they were all together, right, And 570 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 5: what was always amazing to me was it was the 571 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 5: same thing from Kobe. He would at the end of practice, 572 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 5: he would just he sort of hold his hands up. 573 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 5: He's like, let me get in position. Don't rush me. 574 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 5: Don't rush me, because it was it was a circus 575 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 5: of media at those things, right, Like all the sports 576 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 5: media in the world is there, and like the top 577 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 5: five most famous basketball players on planet Earth were all 578 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 5: there in one room. So he would sit down and 579 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 5: he say like okay, and there would be this huge crush. 580 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 5: I'm gonna tweet a picture of one of the pictures 581 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 5: I took of it out tonight or tomorrow, And he 582 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 5: would just sit there and he would like he knew 583 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 5: that a lot of people if you were like a 584 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 5: Korean basketball journalist, that's asking a question to Kobe Bryant 585 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 5: meant everything right, but that's this is like a memory 586 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 5: you're gonna have forever. And he would sit there for 587 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 5: like an hour plus and answer like the dumbest questions, bro, 588 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, like like like like I mean, 589 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 5: like do you like basketball type questions? You know what 590 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 5: I'm saying. But he would sit there and answer them, 591 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 5: and he would he would answer them back in uh 592 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 5: in I'm trying to think at least English, Spanish, Italian, 593 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 5: and I think German just like seamlessly, you know what 594 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 5: I mean. And like I remember the one that tripped 595 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 5: me out was one dude asked him a question and 596 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 5: he had like a Spanish accent, but he asked a 597 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 5: question in English, and Kobe asked him, do you want 598 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 5: my response in English or Spanish? And then and then 599 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 5: responded in Spanish, you know what I mean. Like that's 600 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 5: just stuff that like if you saw a politician do that, 601 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 5: you'd be like why this is a once in a 602 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 5: lifetime politician. But like basketball for a living. 603 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: Bro, just and just I mean, it wasn't that the 604 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 2: same year that, like Kyrie was trying to make the 605 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 2: team and was like challenging Kobe and there was that 606 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: one on one. 607 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: Shit, he was like, I will watch it within. 608 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 5: Easy money, bro, right right. 609 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: But then Kyrie became the dude that he mentored the 610 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: most in the league, the guy that was coming for 611 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 2: his you know, for like I'm coming for you, bro, 612 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying like that, and that 613 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: kind of speaks to it too, where like also Jordan 614 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 2: embraced Kobe in that way, you know what I'm saying, 615 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: because those that those people, you know. 616 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: What I'm saying, they see they see it. He saw 617 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: something and Kyrie the same way, Jordan saw something in him. 618 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 2: But like, man, it's just it's I don't know when 619 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: this will be real. I don't know when it will 620 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: be man. 621 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 5: Tyler was talking about that Lakers Clippers game on Tuesdays 622 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,239 Speaker 5: to be fucking surreal as fun. But that but that 623 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 5: might be it, bro. 624 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: And that's and how and how fitting though, you know 625 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like it's really weird to the day 626 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 2: after Brian passes him in points, and the last thing 627 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 2: he tweeted was, you know, bron keep going now now 628 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: you go for number two, you number three now twos ago? 629 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: You know, just you know the way he. 630 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: Approached it, you know what I'm saying, like, Okay, cool, 631 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: you pass me, what's next? 632 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: Boom? 633 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, keep pushing it and and 634 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 2: that's how he that's how he existed outside of basketball too, 635 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 2: Like you know, like, but this is this is a 636 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: this is a this is a Like I said, if 637 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 2: I won't I want if I live, if I live 638 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: a million years, I'll never understand this. 639 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: But if I but in those million years. 640 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like I always these are, 641 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: I'll be like you know that, man, Kobe was a dog, bro, 642 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like there's memories that we 643 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 2: have that you know, even other if you were rooting 644 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: for him against him, you'll never forget him. 645 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: Man, the dude was just the way he approached the game. 646 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: Like and when he retired, it was the last of 647 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: a particular Breeder player. J. J. 648 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 3: Williams has a great story that he tells about when 649 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 3: the bulls and the Lakers were playing, and he went 650 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 3: to the to the court to you know, get some 651 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 3: working at like fucking seven in the morning. And he said, 652 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 3: Kobe was already there, and you know so so Jay 653 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 3: Williams said, you know, he went through his his motions, 654 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 3: did his work, got his workout in. You know, he 655 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 3: expected Kobe to leave earlier than him, because you know, 656 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 3: Kobe was there before him. And he said, and he said, 657 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 3: Jay Williams said, he wound up leaving before Kobe left. 658 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 3: And then Jay Williams said, after the game, he talked 659 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 3: to Kobe and was like. 660 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 4: Man, how long will you work it out? 661 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 3: And and he said, Kobe told him shit, he said, 662 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 3: my workout was was wrapped up, you know, for for 663 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,479 Speaker 3: a while, you know, right around the time you came in. 664 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 3: But I couldn't leave before you because I couldn't think 665 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 3: that you worked harder than me. I couldn't have you 666 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 3: thinking that you worked hard of him. 667 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: That's a different type of dude. 668 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 4: That's a different dude. 669 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: That's a different type of dude. 670 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 5: Man. 671 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: But I don't, I don't, I don't know what else 672 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 2: to say about the dude, you know what I'm saying. 673 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: But I don't even be praying, bro, but I'm playing 674 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: praying for his family, you know what I'm saying. 675 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 5: And yeah, dude, that's the part I mean, I just yeah, 676 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 5: I mean, that's the part that I just can't even 677 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 5: begin to fucking imagine, bro. And I mean. 678 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 3: This is yeah, go ahead, I'm not gonna say, man, 679 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 3: if you know that. To kind of lighten things up, 680 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 3: maybe we could talk about our favorite Kobe moments, because Mike, 681 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 3: you were like fucking what sixteen, seventeen, and eighteen during 682 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 3: that three people, which is like, fucking sports fan, heaven't 683 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 3: I can't imagine a better timeline. 684 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 4: To fucking see your team. You don't run three off 685 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 4: in those fucking years. 686 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 5: The Kobe Shaq oop against the Trail. 687 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, ye. 688 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 5: Single happiest moment of my life as a sports fan. 689 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 5: And my best friend Ryan and I were watching that 690 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 5: game on my mom's couch. We were bouncing up and down. 691 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 5: She kept yelling at us not to break the couch, 692 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 5: and when that oop happened and Shaq turned around and 693 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 5: was running back towards the. 694 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: Camera, arms wide open. 695 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 5: I didn't see that ship until the next morning. We 696 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 5: were running up and down. 697 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: My yard, Bro, And what's really weird. 698 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: We all when we think of Kobe, we think of 699 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 2: that moment, we think of Kobe passing the ball, We 700 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: think of a Kobe passed when we think of Kobe, 701 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 2: And that's that's interesting. 702 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 3: And and Kobe's last stat ever was an assist two 703 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 3: and in his final game. 704 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 4: So yeah, like. 705 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 5: That moment for me as a sports fan, that whole 706 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 5: run the shot Kobe ninety eight to two thousand, like 707 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 5: that is that's it for me as a sports fan, 708 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 5: right there, Bro, Like like you said, I was going 709 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 5: from middle school into high school or excuse me, two 710 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 5: thousand and two thousand and two, Like it was non 711 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 5: stop everywhere Laker fandom, you know what I mean, Like 712 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 5: no one even heard of the fucking Clippers at this point, bro. 713 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 5: Like every car in southern California had a Lakers flag, 714 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 5: everyone had a shack or a Kobe jersey. 715 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: This really ain't changed much though, you know what I mean. 716 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 5: But as I mean, it's hard. It's hard for me 717 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 5: to realize that I'm old, first of all, right, but 718 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 5: like it's hard for me to realize that's eighteen years ago. 719 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 5: And you're right, bro, like you still see you still 720 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 5: see number eight jerseys all over southern California. And then 721 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 5: Shack has lived so much life in so many different 722 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 5: cities since that everything, But Kobe is just like it's 723 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 5: a constant in a in a city where if you 724 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 5: are on top of the sports world for like two years, 725 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 5: you are a legend for the rest of the time. 726 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 5: You know what I mean, because you just you don't 727 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 5: climb to the top of the mountain in La like that, 728 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,919 Speaker 5: but but to do it for two decades, Yeah, that's 729 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 5: what did you guys got a fair I mean, I 730 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 5: know you guys were never rooting for him, so you. 731 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 4: Know, I was never a cobehator, you know. 732 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 3: I the thing about about Twitter is that came you know, Twitter. 733 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 4: Got Yobe declined. So so I was all in on 734 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 4: the Kobe jokes. You know what I'm saying. I was 735 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 4: never at so was he. 736 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 5: I just want to add it. And that was one 737 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 5: of the other things I loved about him. Bro was 738 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 5: like Kobe. Clearly he might have taken this ship personally. 739 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 5: But the quote I'll never forget from his last year 740 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 5: was he said someone brought up that he was like 741 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 5: number fifty in the league in three point percentage, and 742 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 5: I think his response was like, Hey, I know I 743 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 5: play like shit, but I also know, but I also 744 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 5: know that I'm working. I'm doing all the work I 745 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 5: can and not play like shit, and I just have 746 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 5: to be happy with that. 747 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 3: But yeah, like, like like if Twitter was around during 748 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 3: his five oh sixth season, dog like I was fucking 749 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 3: Kobe stand during that year. That was That's one of 750 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 3: the most ridiculous seasons I've seen in my fucking life, man, 751 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 3: that January had when he was averaging like forty and 752 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 3: to this day, missing missing that eighty one point performance 753 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 3: in real time. 754 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 4: It's the biggest regret I have as a sportsman. 755 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 5: Oh I forgot Why did you miss? I forgot you 756 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 5: COVID that before too. 757 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 3: I had no fucking first it wasn't nationally television, Yeah, 758 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 3: fucking North Carolina back then in college and shit, and 759 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 3: you know, it was a fucking you know, just a 760 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 3: fucking you know, Comcast lay game or whatever the fuck. 761 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 3: And I missed that ship. And that's my biggest fucking 762 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 3: regret as a sportsman. I wish I could have seen 763 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 3: that that shit happen in real time. 764 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 5: You just like had to read like a box score. 765 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 3: Or some shit, yeah, like like it was fucking nineteen 766 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 3: twenty six or some shit right like. 767 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, but. 768 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: Like it was I. 769 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 2: Remember talking to John about about uh, about Kobe and 770 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 2: cold like John, John, This dude, John is like, I don't. 771 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: Know, I think, did you meet him, Tyler? I don't 772 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: know if you met him, Tyler. But Homie is like six' three, 773 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: like two thirty. 774 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 2: He's a big man, big beard, you know, like if 775 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 2: you draw a man, you drawing John Ball headed all 776 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 2: that shit, right, So he's grown up in La his 777 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 2: whole life. Kobe comes to add, John worked at me, 778 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 2: add Kobe. Kobe comes to add, and this is before 779 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 2: I was actually there. And so he tells a story 780 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 2: about when he shook Kobe's hand. Then he goes to 781 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 2: the bathroom, looks in the mirror. This man is in 782 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 2: his thirties at the time, cries, starts crying. 783 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: This sixty three, two hundred and. 784 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 2: Thirty pound man is crying because he shook Kobe's hand. 785 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: But that's how much Kobe meant to the city. And 786 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: John's not soft by. 787 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 2: Any means, sit you know what I'm saying, by any 788 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 2: stretch of imagination, But that's how much he meant, you know, 789 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 2: he was LA's guy, you know what I mean, And 790 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 2: it's you know, and and he's still LA's guy. 791 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: Fuck that shit, you know what I'm saying, Like he 792 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: still is, you know what I mean? There will never 793 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: be another Kobe Bryant. 794 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,760 Speaker 2: And I don't see you know, I don't see anybody 795 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 2: meaning as much to the city of La as Kobe, 796 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,240 Speaker 2: even with Magic playing. 797 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: I think, you know, we talk about who are the 798 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: best Lakers, but when. 799 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 2: You talk about LA, when you talk about LA and basketball, 800 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 2: Kobe embodies that for some reason, you know what I. 801 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 5: Mean, Like, well, let me let me say this. When 802 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 5: they ask Kobe who's the greatest Laker of all time, 803 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 5: he would always say that's not for me to decide, 804 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 5: that's up to you guys. Now, when they ask Magic 805 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 5: who the greatest Laker of all time was, he said Kobe. 806 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, you know, Like, like I tweeted design not 807 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 3: too long ago, I think that there's there's only a 808 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 3: handful of players who are their city, right. I think 809 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 3: Steph is the Bay, d Wade is Miami, Cebo is Memphis, and. 810 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 4: Kobe is LA. And that's it. 811 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where it starts and stops. Bro, that's it. 812 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 3: It's those four guys. But yeah, I got a lot 813 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 3: of favorite Kobe moments. I'll try to do this shit 814 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 3: chronologically if I can. My first, my first favorite Kobe 815 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 3: moment was the fucking two thousand Finals. Fucking was was 816 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 3: a Game four ot when Shaq fouled out and Kobe 817 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 3: just went berserk drug like four straight buckets, looked over 818 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 3: at Shaq on the bench, and then the i'ma hold. 819 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: Us down right right, yeah. 820 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 4: Indiana's ass. 821 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 3: That was when I was like, Okay, this motherfucker might 822 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 3: be this dude might be the real deal, right. And 823 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 3: then the fucking two thousand and one postseason, Oh my god, Oh. 824 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 4: My god, Kobe, that Kobe. 825 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 3: That two thousand and one postseason. I was like, he 826 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 3: might be the best player in the world right now. 827 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 4: And shit. 828 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 3: And then two thousand and three when he wore the 829 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 3: fucking Jordan eights and buston MJ's ass for fifty five 830 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 3: the last matchup had some cold blood and Ship just 831 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 3: put the Jordan ighth on him, gave fifty five, patted 832 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 3: him on his asses in them Home forever. 833 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 2: Even the All Star Game too, though, like when he 834 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 2: played him an All Star and Jordan hit that game winner, 835 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 2: Kobe got fouled. Motherfuckers just like Kobe submister freetes. Kobe 836 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 2: was like, nig please, you know what I'm saying. I 837 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 2: give it away, shit, even to my motherfucking even to 838 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 2: the dude I think is a legend. 839 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Who who emulated my game? 840 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 5: After? 841 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 2: No, Bro, I'm taking these points. You gotta take the sail, buddy, 842 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 843 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 5: That's something that I think I want to highlight. And 844 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 5: before we hear more of Tyler's awesome movas, is that 845 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 5: there was there is a real special kind of a 846 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 5: torch passing in basketball that's not true in any other 847 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 5: sport because Peyton Manning never guarded Tom Brady right right 848 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 5: where Jordan passed that ship to Kobe and Kobe passed 849 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 5: that ship to Braun. And you can tell there's a 850 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 5: certain satisfaction in those two in the first two dudes 851 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 5: that they were being passed up by a worthy person, 852 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 5: right And you've seen that so much in Broun and 853 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 5: Kobe's relationship, and I can't even imagine what Bron's mindset 854 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 5: is going to be like the rest of this year. 855 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 5: He spoke just last night about how much Kobe meant 856 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 5: to him growing up and tour to him when he 857 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 5: was a young player. And I think that's just such 858 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 5: a special thing about the sport of basketball that you 859 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 5: can have that from your all time greats. You have 860 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 5: this sort of like unbroken chain of I was the 861 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 5: best in the world, and I see you, and I 862 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 5: know you're gonna be the best in the world for 863 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 5: a while, and I know that you got to rip 864 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 5: my throat out to start that. 865 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 4: And here it is. 866 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,919 Speaker 2: But the thing is, like they like I think there's 867 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 2: there's only basketball in general, Like he is more likely 868 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 2: to get struck by lightning and actually to to to 869 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 2: make to make the league. But there's if you're a guy, 870 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 2: that is your league, you know what I'm saying. Jordan 871 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 2: was his league, Kobe was his league. Lebron it is 872 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 2: his league. Those are That's Nobody really can understand what 873 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 2: that truly means other than don't those guys you just. 874 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 5: Scribe half of the history of the sport. 875 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 2: You know, it's so like exactly so like not many 876 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 2: people can understand that. 877 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: So like there's only those only only there's only a 878 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: few guys that. 879 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 2: Can get that ship, and you know, and and they 880 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 2: understand it this in a different way, like having that 881 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 2: light on them, shine, you know, shineing them, having the 882 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 2: world look at them. 883 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: These are guys that are so popular, so known that 884 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: if we. 885 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 2: Had intergalactic or interplanetary travel and interacted with other you know, 886 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 2: you know, fucking planets and ship, they would know who 887 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 2: these motherfuckers are. 888 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: You feel me like that they and and and to 889 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,280 Speaker 1: carry that ship. Not many people know. 890 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 2: How that feels, you know what I'm saying, And so 891 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 2: that's a certain amount of respect that comes with comes 892 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 2: in that. 893 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: So you know, like I mean, you saw, like you know. 894 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 2: Brin in game dapping and hugging Kobe, you know what 895 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, you know, like and like, man, it's. 896 00:41:55,160 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: Just I don't know, bro, It's just crazy Tyler. 897 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 5: You were at him busting Jordan's ass, bros. 898 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 3: Three Okay, all right, So of course, you know, the 899 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 3: whole five o six season, Like I said, one of 900 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 3: the most ridiculous fucking seasons I've ever seen. His January 901 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,240 Speaker 3: six is one of the greatest muscle in Bay history. 902 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 3: He averaged like forty that of the whole month. Then 903 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 3: I think It was the two thousand and eight playoffs. 904 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 3: First the Rockets. Do you remember when he was busting 905 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 3: Shane Battier's ass and he turned to the announcmer's table 906 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 3: and pointed at Shane Battier and said, he can't guard. 907 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 4: Me, y'all. 908 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 5: Look. 909 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 3: And then and then the fucking two thousand and nine 910 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 3: finals when he told Dwight to shut. 911 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 4: The fuck up while he was taking a free throw 912 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 4: because because Wit was bitching. 913 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 2: And I love the thing was they Dwight thought they 914 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 2: was friends and they were. But Kobe's like, bro, we 915 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 2: we dogs. You know what I'm saying, We're trying to 916 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 2: win chips. Shut the fuck up, bro, you know what 917 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 2: I'm saying. I ain't got time to be cool with 918 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 2: your ass. And he's ninety feet, you know, said talk 919 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 2: to me after the finals, my nigga, fuck you, and 920 00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 2: I get it. 921 00:42:58,600 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 5: You know. 922 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: He was a killed on that time for bullshit. 923 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, his his fucking sixty two and three quarters. The 924 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 4: mass forgot that, yeah. 925 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 2: And yeah, and then he sat he said he set 926 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter right, and motherfuckers was mad, like, let 927 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:12,240 Speaker 2: the man play. 928 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 5: Fuck yeah, I was mad. 929 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 3: Ship man that that might And of course his last game, 930 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 3: which is I think the best send off in fucking 931 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:21,760 Speaker 3: sports history. 932 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, that that's about it. Man. Kobe gave 933 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 4: us some fucking moments. Man. 934 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 2: I think I think my favorite moment was when he 935 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 2: averaged forty for that month when he was yet I mean, yeah, 936 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 2: I think did he what's the blazer some we had Omphis? 937 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,760 Speaker 2: We had that game winner hit that three off that screen. 938 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean in that in that run, it 939 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 2: was it was like people were talking about how you know, 940 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 2: Harden had that crazy run, you know what I'm saying 941 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 2: of was it thirty or more last year? 942 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 5: And everyone in the world quote tweeted that ship and 943 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 5: said Kobe right right. 944 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 2: The thing is like nobody gave fuck during that I mean, 945 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 2: and you know, Kobe was, like you said, it was 946 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,760 Speaker 2: must watch television, but like, you know, during that time period, 947 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 2: like I literally thought, I've never seen anything in my life. 948 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: This is when I was obsessed with basketball. 949 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 2: You couldn't have watched it and been like you know, 950 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 2: and and and even like him going head tohead with 951 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 2: like we were talking about Carmelo earlier to day. You 952 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Going at it with Mellow was 953 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine in the in the West 954 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 2: Conference Finals. Going back to back the battles he had 955 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 2: with fucking T Mac when there was a time period 956 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 2: we were thinking like is it gonna be T Max 957 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 2: League or Kobe's league? 958 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: People probably find that hard to believe, you know. 959 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 5: What I'm saying, But that was a debate as real 960 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 5: as any debate. 961 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Kobe snatched that motherfucker and took off with 962 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 2: that baton nigga. 963 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, like non and eight 964 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 3: guy or. 965 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: Something injury injuries, but we gotta say this, I'll say this, 966 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like T Mac? Yes, dog, 967 00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: you feel me. 968 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 2: But a would watch Team Mac on the defensive end, 969 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 2: and he didn't give a single fuck about stopping a 970 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 2: motherfucking soul. 971 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: You know, And I get it, you know what I mean, whatever, 972 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: fuck it, you know what I'm saying. 973 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 2: The buckets got him paid, But Kobe was he he 974 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 2: keeps your ass on because I mean, if if we 975 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 2: think about that, it was in twenty twelve. Oh you said, 976 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 2: the twenty twelve Olympics, right, who was the one that 977 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 2: brought brought it home with them when they was where 978 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 2: they're playing like Argentina or something like that in the finals, 979 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 2: and it was kind of Coloch. 980 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,240 Speaker 1: They gave their motherfucker to Kobe. 981 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 2: This is this is Pete Bryant, this is Wade as 982 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,439 Speaker 2: a dog, this is Mellow as a dog. 983 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: Was there was a Kde on that team too, you 984 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. 985 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 7: And listen, bro, gods like gods, Bro, everybody that the 986 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 7: league belongs to, now right, I have no question about 987 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 7: who they were giving the ball. 988 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 2: And they y'all set, they ass down and got that 989 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 2: motherfucker to Kobe and it was Kobe time. 990 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And in these arguments online, 991 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 1: I'm never talking about. 992 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 4: This shit, but I was there. 993 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 5: I say today, let me okay, let me let me 994 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 5: run through this roster in ten seconds. Tyson Chandler, Kevin 995 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 5: Durant at twenty three, Lebron at twenty seven, Russ at 996 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 5: twenty three, Dura, williams Iggy at twenty eight, Kevin Love 997 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 5: at twenty three, Hardened at twenty two, Chris Paul at 998 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:24,439 Speaker 5: twenty seven, Anthony Davis at nineteen, and Mellow at twenty eight. 999 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: Was Kobe and how all was Kobe? 1000 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 5: And Kobe was thirty three and the person on the 1001 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,280 Speaker 5: team by four years, and all those dudes and coach 1002 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 5: k Jim Beaheive, Mike D'Antoni, Jerry Colangelo and Ate McMillan 1003 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 5: all looked at Kobe and said, take us home, fuck. 1004 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 2: The ex and os we know what time it is, okay, 1005 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,800 Speaker 2: And he took him home in front of the whole world. 1006 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 2: You feel me, I mean, And that's just that was Kobe. Man, 1007 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 2: That was Kobe. That was Kobe even at thirty three. 1008 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 2: He was a guy. And I remember that. I think 1009 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 2: it was was Amon Shot that asked that man, you 1010 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,919 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, how does he see himself leaving? 1011 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 2: And asking do you see yourself being a seventeen point 1012 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 2: per game? Like you how long would you play? And 1013 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 2: it asked him, like you know when he do you 1014 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 2: think he would play too long? 1015 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 4: And he said, I don't. 1016 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 2: See myself being a seventeen point per game, ass dude, 1017 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 2: fuck that. 1018 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: I'd rather retire, you know what I'm saying. 1019 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 2: And the way shit worked out, he didn't retire at 1020 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,320 Speaker 2: his peak like you know, like but like he retired 1021 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 2: going out shoot that thing and that's sixty that last game, 1022 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 2: Like I said, as much as I rooted against his 1023 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 2: ass throughout those twenty years, that motherfucking had me sitting 1024 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 2: in front of my lady crying like a baby into 1025 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 2: some shaggy ass fucking wings man. And that's, you know, 1026 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 2: on a fifty shot, sixty point night, And that was 1027 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant. Dude, to watch him what to be a fan, 1028 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 2: even if you lie to yourself, you know what I'm 1029 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 2: saying about. 1030 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 1031 00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 1: You could not not respect that man's game and the 1032 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: way he was approaching life was the exact same way. 1033 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,839 Speaker 1: And you know, and I want to say this too. 1034 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 5: We talked about a little bit with Braun. I mean, 1035 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 5: the NBA is going to be different this year, Bro, 1036 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 5: I mean, I think these dudes are going to be 1037 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 5: out here fucking We talked about how everyone's kind of 1038 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 5: waiting around a little bit. Everyone out here who loved 1039 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,880 Speaker 5: that guy is gonna come out and go fucking crazy, 1040 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,399 Speaker 5: and they should do it, Yeah, for sure, do it 1041 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 5: as they should for me. 1042 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 3: Fucking Trey Young already had forty five on twenty four 1043 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 3: shots while we're a number eight tonight. 1044 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 1045 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 2: And and shot was an eighty one percent from the 1046 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 2: free throw line. Fuck, I'm trying to tell you, bro, 1047 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,320 Speaker 2: his his footprint all over the league. 1048 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 5: Bro. 1049 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 2: Now it's spirit going to be on that ship too. 1050 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 2: And I ain't even on that type of shit, but 1051 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 2: I'm on it right now, fucking. 1052 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 5: One hundred percent. And you guys know I cover You 1053 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 5: know a lot of high school kids. You know Peyton Watson, 1054 00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 5: Long Beach poly kids who's all the way up you 1055 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 5: talk He talked about a lot of these kids talked 1056 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,799 Speaker 5: about this is the first real death they've ever experienced. 1057 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 4: Bro. 1058 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 5: So you're seeing kids who are gonna have to learn 1059 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 5: how to grieve through losing a basketball player. And that 1060 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 5: is like, that's something different, and that's something special for 1061 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 5: you to be as a basketball player that some of 1062 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 5: these guys never met to be at that level. But 1063 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 5: I want to read you a tweet from Josh Christopher, 1064 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 5: who plays at Mayfair, which is in Lakewood, right next 1065 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 5: to Long Beach, same city that James Harden went to 1066 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,360 Speaker 5: high school in. Josh tweeted, you guys know Josh Christopher. 1067 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:32,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, hell yeah, he's adult. 1068 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 5: Josh tweeted, Lord, forgive me for what I'm about to 1069 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 5: do to the next team I play. This is. 1070 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 3: That's favorite, right, can. 1071 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 2: Go put that shit on national TV. I'm trying to 1072 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 2: see it. Hell yeah, let that chopile fly man. 1073 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 1: Anyway. 1074 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 2: I love y'all, man, I've been crying all fucking day 1075 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:00,839 Speaker 2: and to be able to talk to you, y'all dudes, Bro, 1076 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 2: that's prices. 1077 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 1: I appreciate y'all. Love the out y'all. 1078 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 5: John, John and I took I want to say this, bro, 1079 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,879 Speaker 5: John and I both took work off today from potentially 1080 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 5: producing ship non stop about this and this is the 1081 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 5: only conversation I was comfortable having publicly is with you 1082 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 5: two guys. And I love you, and I hope this 1083 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 5: podcast is of some use to people on a Monday 1084 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 5: morning where I know everyone's gonna feel like ship. 1085 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 3: Ye real ship love, y'all man, There's no one, There's 1086 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,960 Speaker 3: no one else. I'd rather have these type of conversations, y'all. Man, 1087 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:34,760 Speaker 3: I know that ship. 1088 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,399 Speaker 1: I appreciate y'all. Man, y'all be cool. I'm hugging y'all 1089 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 1: over this motherfucking. 1090 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,760 Speaker 4: Mic right now, man, motherfucker Skyper. You know what I'm saying. 1091 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:44,840 Speaker 4: The cool ship. 1092 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 1: We in it all right, man, y'all take care, Bro, 1093 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 1: all right Bro yeah, Bro,