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Speaker 2: We go. It is a Friday.

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Speaker 1: Wow Wow, what a day yesterday in college football, Major

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Speaker 1: major NFL games This weekend Hawks Niners, Steelers Ravens one

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Speaker 1: hour from now our final regular season blazing fives.

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Speaker 2: I like it last week, Dogs this week.

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Speaker 1: Favorites Wherever you may be, however you may be listening.

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year to those tuning in listening, whatever platform

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Speaker 1: it is. Well, I have nothing against Alabama football. That

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Speaker 1: was a glorious beat down yesterday, was it not? In

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Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl, Indiana sent a sport wide message the

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Speaker 1: SEC dominance is over. The Hoosiers pushed around the Crimson

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Speaker 1: Tide for three and a half hours. The new reality

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Speaker 1: is Bama can't run the football and Georgia can't stop

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Speaker 1: any good offense. It's Miami Indiana, at least for this year.

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Speaker 1: Who are the new bullies on the block and the

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Speaker 1: harsh truth to all you traditionalists, of which I am

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Speaker 1: not one. You are and you were wrong, dead wrong.

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Speaker 1: Conference realignment, nil transfer portal. What a glorious new world

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Speaker 1: we live in. It's more even, it's more unpredictable. Alabama

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Speaker 1: can't stack a roster, either can Georgia or LSU. There

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Speaker 1: are more paths to via bill. Now, we had a

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Speaker 1: fifteen year run on this sport, maybe twenty we're at.

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Speaker 2: This time of the year.

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Speaker 1: It was Georgia, it was Ohio, stay, it was Alabama,

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Speaker 1: it was Clemson.

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Speaker 2: You choose that, give.

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Speaker 1: Me more Miami, Indiana, Oregon? Oh myth, I mean I

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Speaker 1: love it. In fact, to put a stamp on it.

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Speaker 1: In the last three years, the Big Ten four and

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Speaker 1: It's going to start pouring in now. Everybody can pay

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Speaker 1: players the SEC. Georgia's defense, come on, he can't stop

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Speaker 1: a good offense. Alabama got pushed around by Indiana. People

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Speaker 1: often ask is the America can dream possible? Damn straight,

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Speaker 1: It's called Indiana. Who's your football? From pathetic to powerful,

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Speaker 1: awful to awe inspiring, doormat to dominance, great coach, the

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Speaker 1: right boosters, remarkable quarterback, they play real defense. Is Indian

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Speaker 1: of the best tackling team that you've seen in recent years?

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Speaker 1: I mean they were a dog with flees my entire life.

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Speaker 1: Even in the league Corso days, everybody loved them. They

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Speaker 1: weren't very good, but I watched Indiana. You just change uniforms.

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Speaker 1: This is a better college football. This is a much

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Speaker 1: much better college football. Not because Alabama got housed. Because

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Speaker 1: Ole Miss is now representing the South, not Michigan or

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Speaker 1: Ohio State or Penn State. Indiana's representing the Midwest. Impossible

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Speaker 1: not to root for unless you're playing them. We still

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Speaker 1: have a West Coast power. We still have an SEC.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the Mendoza line. By the way, if

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Speaker 1: he's not the number one pick, I don't even understand football.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen of sixteen, three touchdowns, no picks, And I don't

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Speaker 3: First of all, my team and I want to give

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Speaker 3: just a great conglomerate of individuals coming together and really

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know what you're saying in a little

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Speaker 1: one pick. Congratulations Raiders, try not to screw it up

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Speaker 1: all right. I want to talk about Miami beating Ohio

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Speaker 2: Over, No Natty, not anymore.

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Speaker 1: I watched Miami play Pittsburgh in like week thirteen fourteen,

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Speaker 1: seven years. College football today, and all the old timers

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Speaker 1: You're allowed to stub your toe more than once. You

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Speaker 2: But you can get in. You can grow.

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Speaker 1: Just like people mistakes when you're fourteen or twenty four

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Speaker 1: Steelers in the Ravens play Sunny Night. You talk about

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Speaker 1: flawed teams, I can't wait to watch the winner gets

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Speaker 1: into the playoffs. That's not a weakness, it's a strength

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Speaker 1: of the NFL. Miami, the Hurricanes are precisely what right

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Speaker 1: There's only twenty hours a week you can practice. All

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Speaker 1: these teams are flawed. Michigan. Last year, Ohio States, a

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Speaker 1: You don't know until you know. And it used to

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll get to the Fiesta Bowl, maybe the Citrus Bowl. Alamomoble,

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Speaker 1: It's not the way it works anymore. Super Mario, oh

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Speaker 1: Chrystal ball after that lost to Louisville. Just like in life,

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Speaker 4: We don't think we have arrived by any stretch, but

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Speaker 4: it off with an interception. Those are all Those are

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Speaker 4: great counter punches. Those are just really like left hooks

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Speaker 1: I think Indiana is going to I think meet Miami

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Speaker 1: in the National Championship, But like the NFL, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: I think Indiana buy a field goals, probably the best

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Speaker 1: I love where we're at in this sport. Give me

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Speaker 1: and the canes kynees row was good for college football,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy, but it's not. After watching last year where

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Speaker 1: I mean, they just rolled through people until this year

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Speaker 1: By the way, Ohio State lost to two teams that

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Speaker 2: Indiana's going to be a tough.

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Speaker 5: Out, very tough.

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Speaker 6: I was blown away by the Trinidad Chamberliss story last while.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I can't stop reading about this kid.

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Speaker 6: A year ago, he's playing, you know, Division two, winning

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Speaker 7: Now he's doing unbelievable stuff.

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Speaker 6: the in the NFL, I was thinking Johnny Manzel, like

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Speaker 6: he's running around doing wacky stuff and.

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Speaker 2: It all works.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, I don't know. It was week eight

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Speaker 1: on the show, and I said, I get Dak Prescott vibes,

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Speaker 1: A little smaller Dak Prescott vibes. Where now Dak moved

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Speaker 7: But he's going to be up against it against this

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Speaker 5: Oh, a little bit of a different beast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, George, what happened to the Georgia defense college? This

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Speaker 5: It's all in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: I saw no pass rush, I mean, and anytime they blitzed,

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Speaker 2: That was a fun game last night. Oh, it was

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Speaker 2: a Great Game last night.

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Speaker 2: or two.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you this new College Ball Worlds got me

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Speaker 1: all geeked up. Miami Hurricanes, Braby, the swag is back,

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Speaker 1: Trinidad Chamblers, Oregon in their amazing uniforms, and then there's Indiana.

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Speaker 2: This is crazy.

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Speaker 1: Had so much fun yesterday. I don't know what my

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Speaker 1: New Year's resolution is gonna be. I don't think eating

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Speaker 1: four giant chicken Enchiladas was on my bingo card.

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Speaker 2: But that's what I did yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I just ate all day and am gloriously happy for it.

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Speaker 8: It's Collins blazon fuck Seahawks at forty nine.

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Speaker 1: Ers, winner gets the number one seed. I like Seattle

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I like your Rams case. I'm going to be

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Speaker 5: Smoked by thirty in Detroit earlier this year.

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Speaker 6: But Dan Campbellton his guys don't pack it in and

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Speaker 2: He doesn't operate like that.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what to make of that game, so

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Speaker 5: I know that.

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Speaker 8: Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays

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Speaker 8: and Neon Easter not a em Pacific.

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go, RG three Robert Griffin the

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Speaker 2: I love that it can do.

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Speaker 1: NFL in college, so I gotta start with this because

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Speaker 1: that we both love college. But what's great to see again?

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Speaker 1: Happy holidays, Happy New Year to your beautiful family. I

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Speaker 1: throw this at you. So Ohio States last two games,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Day takes over the play calling. They score ten

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Speaker 2: I don't know the run game, the O line.

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Speaker 1: I think some of it is Robert and and I

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Speaker 5: You haven't done this all season and in a number

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Speaker 9: That's why I think you know Brian Hartline, you know,

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Speaker 9: They didn't in Miami took advantage of it.

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Speaker 1: What do you make Fernando Mendoza? I know it's college,

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Speaker 1: His receiving core is Becker cashes everything. I love Mendoza.

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Speaker 9: I love Fernando Mendoza because Bannana Mendoza knows who he is.

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Speaker 9: But the thing I love about him is he's going

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Speaker 5: Goes in this game, goes fourteen to sixty. He doesn't

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Speaker 9: Why because Kayln Black and Roman Himby went off and

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Speaker 9: literally ran over Alabama. So I love Fernando. I think

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Speaker 9: he's the first round pick. I think he's a top

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Speaker 9: He's a big kid. Like you said, size does matter,

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Speaker 9: like Brenana Mendoz and I think with him and Kurse

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting, Robert, with the transfer portals it is,

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Speaker 5: And I think that's really any of us.

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Speaker 9: You get a brand new toy, you want to play

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Speaker 9: And that's where Baying and Mesidor and these guys up

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Speaker 5: The NFL than it's ever been.

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Speaker 9: Colin, you got to be able to win up front,

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Speaker 9: just like every level right, But you got to have

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Speaker 9: know what, Yes, we paid our quarterback a lot of money,

433
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Speaker 9: but this is how we're going to win, and we

434
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Speaker 9: just need him to make five throws a game to

435
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Speaker 9: win us a game and not turn the football over.

436
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Speaker 9: And I think Carson Becks has accepted that challenge and

437
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,479
Speaker 9: done a great job for them down the stretch. I'm

438
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Speaker 9: happy for Miami third place ACC team in the collage

439
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Speaker 9: of balls and semifinals. You know, you know how I

440
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Speaker 9: feel about conference.

441
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Speaker 5: Bias, So I think they're there, are there?

442
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there are three teams in here who could be great.

443
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Speaker 1: I don't think Old Miss is one of them. I

444
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Speaker 1: don't think they're good enough defensively. I just I just

445
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Speaker 1: love Trinidad Chambliss. I just love him. I get a

446
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Speaker 1: little dak vibes. I don't think they're good enough defensively.

447
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Speaker 2: Is that fair? That Ole Miss?

448
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Speaker 1: It just I don't think they can make big stops

449
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Speaker 1: in big spots in this, in this going forward, or

450
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Speaker 1: do you see it differently.

451
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Speaker 9: I think it's fair because Georgia put thirty four on them,

452
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Speaker 9: and Georgia hasn't been this juggernaut of an offense all

453
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Speaker 9: year long. Even though I respect the guys that they have,

454
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Speaker 9: especially the the moxie of Gunner Stockton, But when you

455
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Speaker 9: look at Trinidad Chambliss, you see these types of plays,

456
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Speaker 9: but he's also making the on schedule throw. Yeah, you

457
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Speaker 9: know the heat check touchdown that he threw after the

458
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Speaker 9: interception that really kind of, you know, blew the game

459
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Speaker 9: out for them and had them more of a situation

460
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Speaker 9: where they felt like they could win.

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Speaker 5: This guy's story is incredible.

462
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Speaker 9: You know, D two national champion at Fair State, zero

463
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Speaker 9: star recruit coming out of high school and then he's

464
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Speaker 9: not even the starter coming into this season. Starter goes down,

465
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Speaker 9: he steps in, never looks back. So I just think

466
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Speaker 9: this whole you know, we love stories Colin he in

467
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Speaker 9: college football, his story is phenomenal. The fact that Lane

468
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Speaker 9: Kitten isn't there anymore and Ole Miss is in the

469
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Speaker 9: college football semi final with the coaching staff that that

470
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Speaker 9: Lane Kevin put together is just fascinating.

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Speaker 5: If they win the national championship, there's gonna be a

472
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Speaker 5: movie made about this. Right now, me and you we

473
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Speaker 5: should direct that movie. This is it's phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I said earlier.

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Speaker 1: He's from a big rapids Michigan, and it can't be

477
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Speaker 1: that big because I've never heard of it, and my

478
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Speaker 1: wife's from Michigan.

479
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Speaker 2: So I love the kid's story. It's amazing. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So you know I said to most, I mean at

481
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Speaker 1: least me when I was twenty years old. You know,

482
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Speaker 1: you got your cars breaking down. I don't love your boss.

483
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Speaker 1: It's hard to be twenty and a lot of quarterbacking

484
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Speaker 1: in this league at twenty, you usually don't get Andy

485
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Speaker 1: Reider Sean Payton. You get into an organization where the

486
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Speaker 1: GM loved you and the coach didn't. There's politics, there's

487
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Speaker 1: an impulsive well you know this. So Sam Donald.

488
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Speaker 2: Goes to New York. He's twenty, he's a good looking kid.

489
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Speaker 2: He's in New York. He's a quarterback for an NFL team.

490
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Speaker 2: He gets sick. You know, half the people in the building.

491
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Speaker 1: Aren't sure about him, and I'm like, this is just

492
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Speaker 1: a twenty year old kid.

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Speaker 2: I find it.

494
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Speaker 1: I think he's really special, but I understand all the

495
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Speaker 1: reckless talk as somebody who's played the position. I look

496
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Speaker 1: at him and I'm thinking, nobody can win in New York.

497
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Speaker 1: I looked at him at Carolina winning record. They loved

498
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Speaker 1: him in San Francisco, they love him in Minnesota, they

499
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Speaker 1: love him in Seattle. Nobody or do you see him

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Speaker 1: as a there's limitations he is reckless.

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Speaker 2: How do you view Donald?

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Speaker 9: Wow, I've used Sam Donald as a classic case of

503
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Speaker 9: an organization failing a young quarterback. I've always felt this

504
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Speaker 9: way Colin, that, you know, because of my own experience

505
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Speaker 9: and what I've seen.

506
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Speaker 5: In NFL history.

507
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Speaker 9: If you don't believe in a quarterback, holy you know,

508
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 9: head coach, GM, owner, don't draft look at Look at

509
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Speaker 9: New Orleans, right.

510
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Speaker 5: The owner loves Tyler Shuck.

511
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Speaker 9: The GM loves Tyler Shuck, and the head coach Kela

512
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 9: Morrett loves Tyler Shuck.

513
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Speaker 5: So what do they do.

514
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Speaker 9: They allow him to make mistakes, and they allow him

515
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Speaker 9: to play confidently so he can play himself out of

516
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Speaker 9: a rut. And now Tyler Shuck is looking like one

517
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 9: of the best rookie quarterbacks out there. Especially when lost wise,

518
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Speaker 9: I know wins on a quarterback staff, but yeah, when

519
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 9: law Park, he's playing at a really, really high level.

520
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Speaker 9: When you watch the tape I called his game against

521
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Speaker 9: the Carolina Panthers where they won and he came back,

522
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Speaker 9: you know, late in the game to lead them to victory.

523
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Speaker 5: He's confident.

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Speaker 9: Sam Darnold has one of the most special arms I've

525
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Speaker 9: ever seen.

526
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Speaker 5: And I've known him since high school.

527
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Speaker 9: You know, I went to an All Star game with

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Speaker 9: him and helped coach them, and he was talented way

529
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Speaker 9: back then. So when you look at what he's been

530
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Speaker 9: through in his career, every quarterback now this myth that man,

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Speaker 9: he can do it by himself. It's just not true

532
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Speaker 9: unless you're just a physical specimen like Cam Newton was

533
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Speaker 9: in twenty fifteen when he won MVP and led his

534
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Speaker 9: team to the Super Bowl. But even then he still

535
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 9: had Louke Keigley on defense and he had Greg Olsen

536
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Speaker 9: on offense right Steve Smith a wide receiver. So like

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Speaker 9: quarterbacks today, Colin have to have guys around them. Sam

538
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Speaker 9: Donald having Jackson Smith and jig with this season, you

539
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Speaker 9: know last year having Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 5: At wide receiver.

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Speaker 9: That makes dividends for a QB to the point where

542
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Speaker 9: you hear this game manager versus game changer conversation throw

543
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Speaker 9: that you know, ish out the window. That doesn't make

544
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 9: any sense anymore. Every quarterback has to have guys around.

545
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Speaker 9: Jalen Hurts has two number one wide receivers and number

546
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Speaker 9: one tied En wi Is, Patrick Mahomes and the chief

547
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 9: go so much recently, Well, they don't have a true

548
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 9: game breaking number one tight end anymore because Travis Kelce

549
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 9: is older and they don't have Tyreek Hill. It's just

550
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 9: tough sledding for quarterbacks in this league with how good

551
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 9: the defensive rush is and how good the dbs are

552
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Speaker 9: now to not have number one type receivers and number

553
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Speaker 9: one type weapons that were tight end and running back.

554
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Speaker 9: So I think Sam Donald has that now, and that's

555
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Speaker 9: why you're seeing me excel. And I think that the

556
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 9: Seahawks aren't getting the credit they deserve, and it's because

557
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Speaker 9: of Sam Donald. No one believes that he can get

558
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Speaker 9: it done in the playoffs. And I wouldn't say that's

559
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Speaker 9: not fair, because life isn't fair. We know that otherwise

560
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Speaker 9: we probably will both be doing some other things that

561
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Speaker 9: we wanted to do or whatever, even though we're enjoying

562
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Speaker 9: what we're doing. I think Sam Donald at the end

563
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Speaker 9: of the day has to prove in the playoffs by

564
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Speaker 9: winning and going on a run that his talent is

565
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Speaker 9: exactly what we see. And I believe in the young man.

566
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Speaker 9: So I don't think he's limited. I think he's just

567
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Speaker 9: the right amount of reckless with the right guys around him.

568
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Speaker 1: So the enigma of the season has been Baltimore More

569
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Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson. And I said this the other day

570
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Speaker 1: and people are like, whoa, whoa, whoah. I said, Listen,

571
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Speaker 1: in my life, there's always six quarterbacks that if you're

572
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Speaker 1: the GM, you don't even take a call. It doesn't

573
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Speaker 1: matter if somebody offers you three number ones. You don't

574
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Speaker 1: take a call on Mahomes, Josh Allen. I wouldn't take

575
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Speaker 1: one on Caleb or Drake May. I'm just not the call.

576
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Speaker 1: I'm not I wouldn't take one on c J. Stroud

577
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Speaker 1: or Herbert. That's my six and I'm just not taking

578
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Speaker 1: a call.

579
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Speaker 2: Then there are guys Joe Burrow and Lamar.

580
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to initiate the call, but maybe injuries expense,

581
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Speaker 1: I'll take a call.

582
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Speaker 2: Probably won't move them, but I'll.

583
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Speaker 1: Take a phone call on Jalen Hurts or Joe Burrow

584
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Speaker 1: because Burrow's one more injury away from.

585
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: We get a draft the quarterback.

586
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Speaker 1: So this whole year for Lamar is he's twenty nine,

587
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Speaker 1: He's missed seventeen starts, he's cap hit his monstrous and

588
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: all of a sudden this year RG three Rgt. Robert Griffin,

589
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: he wasn't as fast. What am I to do with Lamar?

590
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: I know he's great, but is it possible at twenty

591
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,959
Speaker 1: nine that he has slightly moved out of his prime?

592
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: You watched him, It doesn't feel the same. What is

593
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: it with Art Well? What is it with Lamar this year?

594
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Speaker 7: Oh?

595
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: Man? What?

596
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Speaker 5: Okay?

597
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Speaker 9: First of all, I think when you look at Joe Burrow,

598
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Speaker 9: Joe Burrow's actually come out.

599
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Speaker 5: And said, like I do, I don't know if I

600
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Speaker 5: love the game anymore.

601
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Speaker 9: And I think that that's a different conversation. Lamar has

602
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 9: never come out and said anything like that. So I

603
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 9: think Baltimore Ravens fans would burn the city to the

604
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Speaker 9: ground if the Ravens traded Kamar tacks. And I mean

605
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 9: that wholeheartedly, and having been there and knowing how he is.

606
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Speaker 9: I did read the article that came out that was

607
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 9: bashing him. You know, I thought it was bush league

608
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 9: to make those statements. And Coach Harball, you know that

609
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 9: the John Harball that I know, you know, the greatest

610
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Speaker 9: coach I ever played for in the NFL. And I

611
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 9: wasn't even a starter for the Ravens. I was the backup.

612
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 9: But watching him operate the way he handled that when

613
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 9: it came to the press and he talked and he

614
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 9: defended Lamar and he said, our relationship is great. If

615
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 9: you want to know what I think, asked me that question,

616
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 9: and that to me, it kills it in the locker room.

617
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 9: And that's what's the most important thing here. If Lamar

618
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Speaker 9: Jackson had lost the locker room, this would be a

619
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Speaker 9: real conversation. But I've got great relationships in that locker

620
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Speaker 9: room still to this day.

621
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Speaker 5: They love Lamar.

622
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Speaker 9: Yeah, they'd love for him to stay healthy and stay

623
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Speaker 9: on the field. Are they going to be more confident

624
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 9: with Lamar out there in this game against the Steelers,

625
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Speaker 9: with which is basically a playing game. Yeah, They're going

626
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 9: to be much more confident with him at QB because

627
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 9: he's their guy. The city loves him, and I've heard

628
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Speaker 9: the rumors of Miami may be coming and trying to

629
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Speaker 9: snag him, because that's where you are, Yeah, And who

630
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 9: wouldn't want to play at home? First of all, he

631
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 9: would take a monstrous offer for the Ravens to get

632
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 9: rid of him. GM Eric DaCosta has no interest in

633
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Speaker 9: trading Lamar Jackson, and I think for him, Lamar is

634
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 9: motivated in different ways than people realize. And the fact

635
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Speaker 9: that he has been a little bit injury prone the

636
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,239
Speaker 9: last couple of seasons, and the fact that people are saying, oh,

637
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 9: he's lost his step and he can't do this, and

638
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 9: he can't do that. He kind of in a lot

639
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 9: of ways reminds me of Michael Vick, because when I

640
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 9: was growing up, Mike, when somebody said he couldn't throw,

641
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 9: he'd go throw for three hundred and fifty yards. Right

642
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 9: when someone said, ah, he lost a step, he'd go

643
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 9: run for one point fifty. And that's kind of what

644
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Speaker 9: I see from Lamar Jackson in the way that he

645
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 9: is motivated. He is somewhat motivated to prove people wrong,

646
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Speaker 9: but also to prove himself right. So I don't think

647
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Speaker 9: they trade him. I think he goes out and he

648
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 9: plays well in this game against the Steelers, and he

649
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Speaker 9: kind of forces Mike Tomlin to either have to.

650
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Speaker 5: Take a TV job or for the Steelers.

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Speaker 9: To realize that what they have in Mike Tomlin is

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Speaker 9: greater and maybe they're not appreciating him as well. But

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Speaker 9: I'm definitely rocking with the Ravens in this game. And

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Speaker 9: I think Lamar Jazs is going to prove all those

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Speaker 9: daughters wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, these stories come out. I mean, the guy

657
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: in Baltimore that works for the Sun is a long

658
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 1: time beat reporter and I'm like, what am I to

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00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: make of that story? And so I think it's fascinating.

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00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: I think your depth of knowledge in the organization. I

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00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: have said this before about Lamar is that I would

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00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: and I felt this way about Lway and Denver. There

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00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: are certain quarterbacks that play for a franchise, but they

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Speaker 1: don't necessarily feel like the city. They're just really good players,

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00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: they play forever whatever. I mean, I love Brady, but

666
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: Brady would go vacation over in Europe, He'd hang out

667
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: in New York. I didn't feel like he felt like Boston.

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Speaker 2: He was just great.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's Hollywood you.

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Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, there is no quarterback in the league that

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Speaker 1: feels I bet that's more popular within the city the

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Speaker 1: area codes of the city than Lamar Jackson. I think

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00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: he's the most popular quarterback. If you did a poll

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Speaker 1: every team in the league. Maybe Mahomes is up there

675
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Speaker 1: because of his success. So when you were there, do

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Speaker 1: you believe that to be true?

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00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 5: No, it's one hundred percent true. And he is the city. Like,

678
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 5: let's be real.

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00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 9: You go to Baltimore, and you know when I got

680
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 9: drafted to Washington and they call it chocolate city. Okay,

681
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 9: well they've Washington, DC, it's chocolate city, then god dag

682
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 9: Baltimore must be dark chocolate.

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Speaker 5: City or something.

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Speaker 9: So when you look at the city and how they operate,

685
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 9: how rugged the city is, how tough the city is,

686
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 9: Lamar Jackson embodies all those things. And when he comes

687
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 9: in the number one thing the Ravens did his rookie

688
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 9: year when I was there, I was there with Lamar

689
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 9: for three seasons, you know, blessing honor to be able

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00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 9: to mentor him and see him go win MVPs and

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Speaker 9: really take over that team and the city from Super

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Speaker 9: Bowl champions to Bowl MVP. Joe Flacco. They never tried

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Speaker 9: to change Lamar. They never tried to change the way

694
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 9: he talked. They never tried to change the way he were,

695
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 9: his hair, they never tried to change the way that

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00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 9: he dressed. They allowed Lamar Jackson to be Lamar Jackson. I,

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00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 9: for one, in my career, didn't have that same experience.

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Speaker 5: But what I loved was that this is who we drafted,

699
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 5: This is.

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Speaker 9: Who we want you to be. We want you to

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00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 9: be Lamar Jackson that embodies the city.

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00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 5: The city. You cling to that, and he is like

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00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 5: his jersey.

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Speaker 9: The sales are crazy, and it's because he has never

705
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 9: changed who he is to try to fit into something.

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00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 9: The Raven said, you know what, We're not going to

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00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 9: put a square peg in a round hole. We're going

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00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 9: to allow you to go be fully who you are.

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Speaker 9: And that's why he's been so successful for so yes.

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Speaker 9: Is he playful? Does he lead in a different way?

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00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 9: Hunting percent, But that locker room would die for him

712
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 9: because they know that he's got their back.

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Speaker 2: Robert great stuff.

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Speaker 1: On a Friday, It's going to be glorious College football yesterday,

715
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: excellent weekend. Seahawks and the Niners, Bucks Panthers, Raven Steelers

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00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 1: mean a lot.

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00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 2: Great Saniors Olds my man. Happy holidays.

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Speaker 5: Appreciate you, brother, thanks for having me on you the

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Speaker 5: best come.

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Speaker 1: Blessed college football, pro football. He knows them both. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to name today. You know how j mac Time

722
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: magazine has their person of the Year. I'm naming my

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Speaker 1: person of the Year in the NFL. Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited.

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Speaker 7: Person of the Year of the NFL. Can I get

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Speaker 7: a guess or two?

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Speaker 2: No, no guesses. It's brock perty did he make the file?

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00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: Nobody from the Jets.

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Speaker 7: We can eliminate them, obviously.

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Speaker 5: That should be fun, all right, it's the hurt