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Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Ramley. This is a big one.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to between the Horns, resented by your southern California

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Speaker 1: Toyota dealers. I'm JB along with MJD and DeMarco far

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills already AFC East champions are coming to

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Speaker 1: Sofi Stadium this week. How you guys doing good?

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Speaker 2: Don't get scared. I'm not scared. No, I mean you

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Speaker 2: got to have a healthy respect. Again, just like Philadelphia,

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Speaker 2: a good team coming to town, and you gotta play

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Speaker 2: your best football healthy respect or you kind of have to.

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Speaker 3: I feel like sometimes you have to have a little

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Speaker 3: best game, this can kind of get away from you

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Speaker 3: a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And it looks like it got.

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Speaker 3: Away from the AFC East after like Week three, right,

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Speaker 3: Like the Buffalo Bills stumbled a little bit early and

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Speaker 3: then they caught fire. And Josh Allen is he's not

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Speaker 3: He's really not the guy that we've seen the last

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Speaker 3: couple years. They're running the football better than anybody right now.

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Speaker 1: MVP front runner for you. If you had to choose right.

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm gonna go, you know me, running backs matter

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with sakuon alright, DeMarco, he's in the clubhouse,

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Speaker 2: he's the clubhouse leader right now as MVP.

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Speaker 1: I like this opportunity right now for the Rams though, right,

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Speaker 1: Like sure, intimidating an opponent, but like if you want

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Speaker 1: for the ultimate prize, that's the potential AFC representative right there,

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Speaker 1: another chance to level up.

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Speaker 2: That's the crazy thing about professional football. I mean, when

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Speaker 2: you have all your goals are you want to control

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Speaker 2: your destiny going into the playoffs, often times you're going

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Speaker 2: to bump into a pretty good team you have to

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Speaker 2: beat that week. This is the same thing. So Buffalo's

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Speaker 2: coming to town. I think they're playing their best football

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Speaker 2: to you know, kind of fend that off in so far. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: to me, it's it was kind of like.

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Speaker 3: When you play like ray Lewis, or you play like

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Speaker 3: to me, it was like, how is my off season workout.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna put that to a test going against this guy, right.

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Speaker 3: I think it's the same for the Rams. How has

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Speaker 3: your off season? How is the all the games before

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Speaker 3: this prepared you for the game? Are you willing to

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Speaker 3: form of cover two and critical downs? Are you ready

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Speaker 3: take advantage of Taylor rap in that situation?

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Speaker 2: A guy that you know, you know.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting is tell me if you disagree. I don't

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Speaker 1: think the Rams had played their best game yet. I

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Speaker 1: don't think they've put a full game on display. There

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Speaker 1: been some partial candidates, But if you asked me, okay,

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Speaker 1: the Rams that you were hoping to see coming out

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Speaker 3: I mean the four touchdowns from Stafford twice has been

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Speaker 3: they were just smothered. I thought the Vikings was another

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Speaker 1: Against Vikings all here, Patriots, Well, when you have.

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Speaker 3: To remember you're traveling across the country, you have to

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Speaker 3: the Rams, right, you're taking a more physical opponent the

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Speaker 3: least that I thought would be more physical, and you

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Speaker 2: I guess they answer is they haven't played their best

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Speaker 2: But I still think their best game is out there,

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Speaker 3: Take me the lost, but you take Detroit to overtime

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Speaker 2: I get that your left tacks not even on the roster,

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Speaker 2: but I hope your best performance leads to a win.

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Speaker 1: That's where I'm going.

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Speaker 2: And like you really can't. The outcome sometimes is.

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Speaker 3: Out of your control, if that makes sense, Like you

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Speaker 3: You want to play your best game, because this is

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Speaker 2: The outcome is going to be the outcome. You want

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you should be reving up to play your best

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Speaker 2: Yeah. For the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: A couple of things. One, At this moment in time,

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Speaker 2: Totally, you have to give them credit climbing out of

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Speaker 2: back to what we're saying. This team is still in

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Speaker 2: search of their best performance of the year, and this

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Speaker 2: Bill Parcels that says the season really doesn't get started

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Speaker 3: It's so crazy how much can change in like a

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Speaker 2: On, and one team will get hot and they'll just

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Speaker 3: Like literally, I were talking about hard knocks before we

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Speaker 1: I love echoes from the past, and we just looked

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Speaker 2: They played, but that might.

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Speaker 1: Have been their best performance of this season. So here

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Speaker 2: This time we're in the matrix. Same thing again. Here

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Speaker 1: We're off to an amazing start. You know why Why

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Speaker 1: because we haven't even hit subject one on the script yet. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know me specifically, Oh no, why what did I do?

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Speaker 1: Well? It was what Cameron, you and Stu? Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: pre Thanksgiving between the horns. Yes, you guys got out

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Speaker 1: was like JB.

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Speaker 2: Part of that was editing though, so we'll leave that alone.

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Speaker 1: When you run this show, it stills into like forty five.

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Speaker 1: No one's complaining. The common section is raving. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's no excuse for having a long edition between the

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Speaker 2: This late in the season, like you said, and you

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Speaker 2: still have a chance to control your destiny. This is

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Speaker 2: first team's revenge game. Though.

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Speaker 3: Remember we had this whole deal with von Miller set

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Speaker 3: up a couple of years ago and Bond he decides

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Speaker 3: to say, hey, you know what, I'm gonna go to Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: That was weird. Dropping the banners and then having Vond

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Speaker 1: Well, you already dropped Taylor Rapp. You're gonna go David Edwards.

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Speaker 2: I understanding those guys.

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Speaker 3: It was kind of a different situation, like Bond had

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Speaker 2: So this is like if a rams like, hey, we

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Speaker 1: You want to go back to New Orleans for just

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Speaker 2: Do you think New Orleans is bad? I don't think

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Speaker 2: They're better than you think. So I think going down

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, I thought, you having your two back

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, kiren comes back. He starts running.

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Speaker 3: Now you feel more comfortable both guys in there playing,

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Speaker 2: The outside zone was there.

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Speaker 1: I was just about to say, what type of running

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Speaker 3: sideline to sideline and they're starting to utilize those and

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Speaker 3: the running backs are running harder, they're running better, right,

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Speaker 1: You're Ron Gold for this week. Okay, you're the position

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Speaker 1: coach for that room. What's your mix like based on

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Speaker 1: what we saw last week in New Orleans? Coach Cool, tell.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm serious. For series.

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Speaker 3: You get a serious, You get a serious and then

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Speaker 3: you know what, if there's a play that I there's

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Speaker 3: But this is your series because again, as we get

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Speaker 3: serious for serious, I think Blake's earned that, and I

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Speaker 2: We were comfortable with it.

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Speaker 1: Let me talk trenches with you, because when I try

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Speaker 1: what's well both, what's closer to reality? And as much

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Speaker 1: But you told me before the game that was the

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Speaker 1: then I'm looking at New Orleans and they're playing a

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Okay, I can't compare this apples to apples

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Speaker 2: So okay, Philly is hard to compare to anyone because

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Speaker 2: So it's hard to go from Philly to New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: But I thought how you blocked and the plays you

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Speaker 2: The worst thing in the world you want to defend

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Speaker 2: if you could stay with that sort of running, if

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Speaker 3: Say this, I thought the Philadelphia Eagles really started kind

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Speaker 3: I think that that gave them confidence in Sean calling

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Speaker 3: go into halftime and I remember watching Sean do his

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Speaker 2: And it was that confidence knowing that, look, we can.

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Speaker 3: We can play way better than this because we already

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Speaker 3: back to that. And I think that's the that's what

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Speaker 3: we talk about getting hot. It's like, even though you're

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you about one more position group because

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Speaker 1: for Rose Boom and Spates win against New Orleans probably

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Speaker 1: So is that a bounce back? Is that a learn

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Speaker 2: I learned when I got knocked on my butt, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean quickly, all right, So be bullish on

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Speaker 2: Learn what guys can and can't do in this league

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Speaker 2: catch him Kamorrow, same thing. So you're getting better the

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Speaker 2: you're gonna get. I keep saying, no matter what happens

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Speaker 2: this year, make the playoffs. Don't make the playoffs for

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Speaker 2: what this defense has gone through, having to defend an

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Speaker 2: All the stuff they're going through is going to help

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Speaker 2: might be right now. It seems like they're coming together

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Speaker 2: now that relevance, the understanding of what it takes, what

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Speaker 1: Let's take that point. Then, how do they go from good?

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Speaker 2: I think I already said it's for me, it's Matthew

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Speaker 2: little bit off. It's incomplete now it's second and ten,

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Speaker 2: Tell me if I'm wrong, is third and three? I

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Speaker 2: So he's got to be accurate throwing the football to

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Speaker 1: So, if I could underscore something you just said there

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Speaker 2: You talk about two guys that can run right to me,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you ran that to the wrong

438
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Speaker 1: go yeah, but I think that keeper game was like

439
00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,880
Speaker 1: exactly what you said. Let's get Stafford a clean one.

440
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Speaker 1: Let's make sure that DeMarcus, coming off a tough week, yeah,

441
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Speaker 1: feels the football while he's engaged.

442
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I understand that. But I think the

443
00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,159
Speaker 3: key for me for them to get to where they

444
00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,680
Speaker 3: want to get to his consistency. But it's consistency overall, right,

445
00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:02,200
Speaker 3: being consistent in every moment, every situation, right, starting fast,

446
00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,879
Speaker 3: being consistent on your first time on the football field.

447
00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,200
Speaker 3: Don't go through and out right find a way to

448
00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:08,840
Speaker 3: get a first down. Like I said, if even if

449
00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:13,159
Speaker 3: it's a quick shotgun hitch to puokinakoop or a slant

450
00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,159
Speaker 3: or something that you know that you can catch and

451
00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,560
Speaker 3: get positive yards and shorten like get ahead of the chains.

452
00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,560
Speaker 3: Those are things that are gonna matter early in this game.

453
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Speaker 3: And then get into the rhythm of the game. Because

454
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Speaker 3: once the Rams got in rhythm, it was like I

455
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Speaker 3: like the Philly start.

456
00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,920
Speaker 2: If if Karen doesn't fumble, I think you and you

457
00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,120
Speaker 2: change the complexion of the football game. So that's where

458
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Speaker 2: I think the Rams strength lies is running, running play,

459
00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,680
Speaker 2: set up play action, and then letting this golden arm

460
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Speaker 2: do its damage.

461
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Speaker 1: I got a couple of three to throw at you.

462
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Speaker 1: The first you know this from listening to me called games.

463
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Speaker 1: I would double two two snaps and targets and see

464
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Speaker 1: what happens.

465
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Speaker 3: I think I said that I don't know if we can.

466
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Speaker 3: I think I said that like week four on this show. Yeah,

467
00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,760
Speaker 3: Like for whatever reason, he is always.

468
00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,359
Speaker 1: Open, always open, and he's off coverage. He's creating zone

469
00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,720
Speaker 1: pockets for other players, and Buffalo plays a ton of zone.

470
00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,879
Speaker 1: You mentioned Taylor Rapp's name, Like you now that the

471
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Speaker 1: offensive line is intact if you're building confidence in your

472
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Speaker 1: ability to protect Stafford for vertical shots. He's the guy.

473
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Speaker 3: He was open against Chicago and every other time it's

474
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Speaker 3: like it's just like four yards of separations every time

475
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Speaker 3: he catches the ball.

476
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Speaker 2: All Right.

477
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Speaker 1: The other name I'm concerned about or need to see

478
00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,600
Speaker 1: elevators Joshuacarty, Like I love going for it on fourth

479
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,040
Speaker 1: down early in the game. I like that from the

480
00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,639
Speaker 1: plus twenty five, But you're not going to get to

481
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Speaker 1: where you're trying to go if you don't have confidence

482
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Speaker 1: in your kicker making high percentage field goals.

483
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Speaker 3: The one time I went to the playoffs are kicker

484
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Speaker 3: Josco Bey Torus squad Week one, we had to sign

485
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,560
Speaker 3: John Carney kicker from the Saints, right, yea, and he

486
00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,439
Speaker 3: was automatic from the between the twenty. Well, we had

487
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Speaker 3: to get to the thirty yard line. He was automatic

488
00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:56,800
Speaker 3: like he was gonna make it every time, which put

489
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Speaker 3: us in four down territory once we got closer to

490
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Speaker 3: the fifty because we're not gonna try to stretch his

491
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 3: leg out, We're just gonna keep going. That aggressiveness allowed

492
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Speaker 3: us mentally though, to know this is a ford. We're

493
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,200
Speaker 3: in a four down situation and we've played we just

494
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 3: played better, and we actually went on a run and

495
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,400
Speaker 3: went to the playoffs, right, and so to me, I think, sometimes, yes,

496
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 3: young kickers go through it, but that that's gonna force

497
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 3: McVay to be more aggressive in certains, which I like,

498
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:20,680
Speaker 3: which I love.

499
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Speaker 1: I'm not trust your future Hall of Fame quarterback. Yeah,

500
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,440
Speaker 1: in an and five situation, or less as opposed to

501
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 1: turning it over to your rookie kicker who hasn't made

502
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Speaker 1: a field goal on a month. Basically, I'm just saying

503
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 1: there's gonna come a time, perhaps as soon as this.

504
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Speaker 2: Whatever it is, he's got to make his kicks, and

505
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,639
Speaker 2: you've got to give him anod. But I refuse to

506
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 2: believe a guy that young and that strong in that

507
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,480
Speaker 2: athletic uh can't make it from distance if that was

508
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:43,120
Speaker 2: the issue.

509
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Speaker 3: If he's got the leg, yeah, but if I if

510
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,879
Speaker 3: I need that's for a game winner, if we're in

511
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 3: the course of this game, we're going for it because I,

512
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Speaker 3: like you said, I regardless of whoever the kicker is,

513
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Speaker 3: it can be justin Tucker, I don't care. Like I

514
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 3: have more trust in our quarterback and our offense than

515
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,920
Speaker 3: I do anybody, because that's where all our money's allocated

516
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 3: to the guys that we want to play. I want

517
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 3: to keep that offense on the field as much as

518
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,719
Speaker 3: we can. Even well, we do the go ball on

519
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,479
Speaker 3: fourth down against New Orleans like, that's fine, I'll take that.

520
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 1: Well, especially this week when your opponent's scoring thirty points

521
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: per game regularly, field goals aren't going to do it,

522
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 1: So maybe this isn't the week, but you hear I'm

523
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Speaker 1: going with that. Let's talk some RAMS personnel, and I

524
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: wanted to touch on the secondary too. They actually claimed a

525
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 1: former first rounder and Emmanuel Forbes Junior this week, sixteenth

526
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 1: overall pick in the twenty twenty three draft. Doesn't sound

527
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 1: like he's necessarily going to impact this week's game plan.

528
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: But when you heard that news, any thoughts.

529
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny when you don't see many first rounders

530
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 2: available this early from the team that drafted them, so

531
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 2: you wonder why. But then you start you look at

532
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 2: his dimensions and you consider who's there in Washington right now.

533
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 2: He may not fit what dan Quinn wants to do defensively,

534
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,919
Speaker 2: but for somebody else he may be perfect. So I

535
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,120
Speaker 2: do know that Sean McVay said they had their eye

536
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 2: on him for a while. And the more corners the better,

537
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 2: because when you think about what's like this year, you

538
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 2: still have to deal with Arizona, you still have to

539
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 2: deal with Seattle, you still have to deal with Buffalo,

540
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 2: but I'm not sure it's gonna be ready that soon.

541
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,199
Speaker 2: But all these receivers coming up, the more corners you

542
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 2: have the more guys that you can sick on people

543
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 2: and say go man coverage or whatever, the better than great.

544
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 3: Yeah to me, anytime you're riding talent, it's a positive, Like,

545
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,959
Speaker 3: that's a talented dude. He was a first round pick

546
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 3: for a reason. I'm sure a lot of people had

547
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Speaker 3: him on his board. Wait, yes again a little wait,

548
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 3: he's a little.

549
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Speaker 1: You know, well, if I were to ask you more,

550
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 1: he's like, let's fast forward to April twenty twenty five

551
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,719
Speaker 1: draft weekend. If I were to say the Rams are

552
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: spending a first round pick on defense, which position group

553
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 1: would you say is most likely? So this is almost

554
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 1: a free dart right to get ahead of that process.

555
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 1: It's the next level of their defense that we figure

556
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 1: they're going to invest in, So why not. Now let's

557
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Speaker 1: talk Braden Fisk. He's been named Defensive Rookie of the

558
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Speaker 1: Month for November, joining Jared Vers in that company. Is

559
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 1: there any case for him over verse? Not that it matters,

560
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 1: but like sometimes your award competition comes internally as much

561
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Speaker 1: as externally.

562
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Speaker 3: That was a fumble return and for a time, Oh

563
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 3: my god, that's why cancel was.

564
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 2: Off any any cut back?

565
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 3: Oh my god? Like and then how hard he was running.

566
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 3: You can tell he was breathing heavy down that sideline.

567
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: Hold the oxygen out for him when he gets to

568
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: the bench. Yeah, don't make him do it, just put

569
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 2: it on him. That's that's the big you know. I

570
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 2: hope he does. That would be great if he does. Uh.

571
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: Either way, it's great for us if Braden Fisk wins

572
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 2: Defensive Rookie of the Year, because it would be awesome.

573
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 2: It would be great recognition for him. It might also

574
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 2: make Verse mad, which is really cool. So he's bawling

575
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 2: out of control. So give the award to his teammate. Yeah,

576
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 2: He's in the Pro Bowl next year, which will be awesome. Yeah.

577
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 2: I think.

578
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 3: I think it's funny because like as much as Verse

579
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 3: wants it, he probably doesn't want him to get it either,

580
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 3: because the are a teammates, Like you'll never hear the

581
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 3: end of it.

582
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Speaker 1: They compete in the weight room, they compete on the field,

583
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: so that force multiplying.

584
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 2: Effects the next day with it there. Yeah.

585
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: Kyn Williams is the RAMS nominee for Walter Payton Man

586
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 1: of the Year. That was cool to see the social

587
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: video with Steven Jackson. If you haven't caught that I

588
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: recommend it. Kobe Turner was on the mass singer, Yes,

589
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 1: a man of many talents.

590
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 2: Yes.

591
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: What else we got Tyler Higbee? We'll see if he

592
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: returns this week. When he does return, what do you

593
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: think that adds to the Rams playoff push?

594
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: I want to see what he's got. He's hadn't played

595
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: football in a while.

596
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: It's tough at that position, right to not have an

597
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: off season program or or it could.

598
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 2: Be frushing practice, yes, or it could be fresh legs.

599
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 2: He could be ready to go and could be a

600
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: spark for you. I think he gives you.

601
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Speaker 3: He gives you in the passing game, that that that

602
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 3: guy that's gonna catch that that quick arrow, Like, he

603
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 3: just gives you more. If it feels like Stafford's more

604
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 3: confident throwing him the ball than he's been these other

605
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 3: tight ends, which is understandably so, because again, that's the

606
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 3: guy you've been throwing to you for a while. He's

607
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 3: been here. Well, he's the longest tenured Ram right at

608
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Speaker 3: this point. So the reliable tank back in your life.

609
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah. Uh.

610
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: Injury report pretty good for both teams. Actually, Rams and

611
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: Bills both look pretty clean. Do you see that Micah

612
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: Hyde is back sign of the practice squad in Buffalo.

613
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 2: Ohay, okay, that.

614
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: That to me says super Bowl question, right, because he's

615
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: openly spoken about bringing that super Bowl to Buffalo. Never

616
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: sign those retirement papers. There's like Eric Weddle undertones there

617
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: in that move. I don't know that he's gonna play

618
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 1: this week, right, but they're preparing for January and February

619
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: and Buffalo.

620
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 2: Let's mess that all fun.

621
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Speaker 1: How about that we were talking pregame in New Orleans.

622
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: When the Commanders jumped out to that huge lead, It's like,

623
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 1: there goes the Wildcard. I feel that way. As we

624
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: turn our attention to the playoff picture they get to

625
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: eight and five, I think it's NFC West or Bus.

626
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: We've kind of said that on this show for several

627
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 1: weeks running. Is that where you guys are? Do you

628
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: need me to look at the NFC wildcard picture? Should

629
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 1: we just go right to the West for it?

630
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: I mean, if there's a chance for the wildcard, I'd

631
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 2: love to hear it.

632
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing for the Rams to have a

633
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: look at the wildcard. They're gonna have to play so

634
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: well that they're going to mess around and end up

635
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: winning the West anyway, so it's a mood point. Which

636
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: prize would you rather have?

637
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 2: By the way, you've set the GPS for NFC West, Yes.

638
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: So I'm done scoreboard watching anywhere outside the division. Let's

639
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 1: start with Seattle at Arizona. See Hawks seven and five

640
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: leading the way, They've had the better of this series

641
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: against the Cardinals. Seahawks are undefeated since they're by Arizona

642
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: winless since theirs. How do you see that one? Breaking?

643
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: Well, Aaron Rodgers gave me another reason to hate him.

644
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 2: You had him, you had Seattle, and you couldn't get him.

645
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 2: But no, I mean, I I don't know how to

646
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: pick between Seattle and Arizona. I think I trust Gino

647
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: more than I do Kyler, but I am more afraid

648
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 2: of Carler than Gino, if that makes any sense.

649
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 3: I think the reason I would pick Gina was because

650
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 3: of the surrounding pieces. Yeah right, and Jig was having

651
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 3: a crazy season. You got Metcalf back. Tyler Lockett is

652
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 3: always Tyler Lockett finds a way to impact the game.

653
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 3: And then they don't even run the football, like they

654
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 3: refuse to run the football, but when they decide to,

655
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 3: they still have that guy back there, those two guys

656
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,959
Speaker 3: back there that could run it. So I mean, if

657
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 3: you're looking at Seattle is always about the O line.

658
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 3: Can they protect And I don't want to say they

659
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 3: got they got one of their guys back right?

660
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: Yeah? And my question is who do you root for

661
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: this week? And if you're a Rams fan, because I

662
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: think the only argument I could make the other direction

663
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: is that the Seahawks' schedule is more difficult. They've got

664
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Speaker 1: Green Bay, Minnesota at Chicago here in so far still

665
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 1: to come, whereas the Cardinals have New England at Carolina,

666
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: Rams and Niners. It doesn't really matter, no, okay, because

667
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: when you're count when you're counting to ten for the Rams,

668
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: We've said this many times, I'm counting those last two

669
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 1: games as gotta wins, right, like if the Rams don't

670
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: have to win Week eighteen and can rest starters like

671
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: I'll eat a chocolate bar on this show. You know

672
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: how hard that would be for me to do, right, But.

673
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 2: I'm still shocked by that. How do you not like chocolate?

674
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: But never mind, because they got they got six, you

675
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: almost have to win at home those last couple, So

676
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: can you get two of the next three to set

677
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: up that scenario. That's that's what I'm looking at for

678
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: the Rams these next three weeks. Can you get at

679
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: least two of the next three?

680
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 2: I believe so yeah, yeah, I mean, let's start with one.

681
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 2: Let's start with Buffalo. Wouldn't that be fun if you

682
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 2: beat Buffalo here, send them mafia home early? Yeah, that

683
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: would be nice. But it's like you said, it's it's

684
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 2: not going to be easy. And this is the guy

685
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: that you can't count out from any positions. If if

686
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: he's ahead, if he's behind, whatever, run pass, whatever. He

687
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: is one of the best players in this league talking

688
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: about Josh Allen. So it's not gonna be easy. And

689
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 2: here's the thing. They actually believe they're gonna make the

690
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: super Bowl. So not only are gonna have to break them,

691
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to break their will. So like it's

692
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: a full time.

693
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 3: Is that though they lost all those pieces, let all

694
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 3: those guys go and got better, right. I think again,

695
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 3: what what they've done is kind of some of what

696
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 3: we want Stafford to do. Is they allow their running

697
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 3: game to kind of dictate, and then he impacts the

698
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 3: game every now and then, And that's the biggest thing

699
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: because he's one of the biggest guys in the NFL.

700
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: Like he's he is their biggest threat, he's their biggest

701
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: runner in the red zone. I will say this though,

702
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: have we listened to Kyle Shanahan talked about the Niners lately?

703
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: Is that like I did just buzz past San Francisco there,

704
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: that's my bad.

705
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just like he was, like, this is the

706
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: worst team we've had. This is not like the other teams. Like,

707
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: I don't think you should say.

708
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Speaker 1: That you're not buying what he's selling or you just

709
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: don't think that's a good I just I'm not buying.

710
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: I think he's trying to motivate his guys to play better.

711
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: Which running back did you claim this week for Fantasy FO?

712
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 3: You know you already knows who I claimed. He won't

713
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 3: play it next week, but this week he's going to

714
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: play for sure.

715
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Speaker 2: Okay, uh oh that guy? Okay, thank you.

716
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: Back to the Bills, Like you guys said, their quarterback

717
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: has I think overperformed against pressure. He's been nearly impossible

718
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: to sack, and their team leads the NFL with a

719
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,479
Speaker 1: plus seventeen turnover March. And that's their formula so how

720
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: do you kind of invert unwine some of those things

721
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Speaker 1: to have a chance to beat them.

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Speaker 2: Every time I turn on the tape of Buffalo, especially

723
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Speaker 2: their offense, it seems like he's always taken the ball

724
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: in great field position. I don't know how or why.

725
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: Maybe it's because they score. Kickoff they do, they're not

726
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: that great and kickoff coverage, but tackles for loss they

727
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: do a great job. So not only are they getting

728
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: you off the field, you're losing yarders at the same time.

729
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,479
Speaker 2: And then a decent punt return and then he's got

730
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: a chance to score on you. So you know what

731
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: the game play and what you have to do to

732
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,479
Speaker 2: beat Buffalo or at least make it a game. So

733
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Speaker 2: the one thing you cannot do is turn it over, period,

734
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: end of story. You can't throw picks, you cannot fumble it.

735
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: And then when you're out there against Josh Allen, get

736
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: him the third down and see what and see just

737
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: take your best shot. And I think pursuon angles are

738
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Speaker 2: going to be huge, especially against him. I would say

739
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Speaker 2: light your hair on fire and go, but make sure

740
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: you have somebody covering for you, because he can pick

741
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Speaker 2: up and scramble and pick up first downs. The last

742
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Speaker 2: thing you want to do is get them the third

743
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: down and then have them pick it up time and

744
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: time again to wear you out.

745
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Speaker 1: So like those Jalen Hurts easiest correct for first down scrambles,

746
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: those things.

747
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: So and I would never tell Jared Vers to take

748
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: any smoke off his rush or Braden Fisk so and

749
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: not even Kobe Turner. So if you're not one of

750
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: those three guys that's hot that day, then you are

751
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: the coverman. Make sure that guy doesn't get out. But

752
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: I cannot tell these hunters stuck to slow down. We've

753
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: got to get to him because if he stands back there,

754
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: he can throw it a mile too. So this will

755
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: be a tough challenge for everybody that lines up on defense.

756
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Speaker 3: My biggest is the bootleg. The bootleg game. Defensively, like

757
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 3: the Rams are gonna do a great job stop in

758
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 3: the run. They're gonna be physical upfront, they're gonna set

759
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 3: vertical edges. They're gonna do all you need to do.

760
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: But it's when they fake then he boots out that

761
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: backside guy who likes to crash all the time.

762
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to be able to get vertical and

763
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: get and try to stop him because that's where he's

764
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: at his best, because he's not afraid to run, like

765
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: to be honest, like that's what he wants to do.

766
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to throw the ball when he gets out,

767
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 3: but he wants to run unless the guy is wide open.

768
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: And so you have to force him to do what

769
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 3: he doesn't want to do, which is crazy to say

770
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 3: you want him to throw the football, but he's more

771
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: dangerous to me with his legs than he.

772
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: Is with his arm. That dude, that big should not

773
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: get the benefit of flighting. That's just me. That's not fair.

774
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Speaker 1: Are you at all curious to see what temperament the

775
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills bring to Los Angeles? And what I mean

776
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: by that is they clinched early, like they just took

777
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: their fifth straight division crown, but they're also playing for

778
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: the one seed and they're getting healthy, right, whether like

779
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: Coleman's back at receiver or Milano came back last week

780
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: at linebackers, So they taken this thing to the next

781
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: level or they taking their foot off the accelerator ever

782
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: so briefly having just secured their home playoff birth.

783
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're about to put I mean just brought Mike

784
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 3: a hide back like this is staying on the gas. Oh,

785
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: they put this thing in back in the third gear

786
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 3: to get some RPMs.

787
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, how about this.

788
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: The last Rams win against the Bills was twelve years

789
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: ago with Sam Bradford against Ryan Fitzpatrick.

790
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: Wow.

791
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: The Rams last home win against Buffalo was before MJD

792
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: was born. Oh my god, eighty three in Anaheim.

793
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: It's time. See it's the do theory. Then the Rams

794
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: are due.

795
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of those though, like Philadelphia and

796
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Miami head to head against the It's time

797
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: for one of these to break in LA's favor. That's

798
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: why I feel good about this week.

799
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: I think they're just the one thing that's missing is

800
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: just a spark. And like you said, if you can

801
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: come out of here, come out of so far beating

802
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: the hottest team in the NFL, that might be the

803
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: spark you need to galvanize for the for the stretch run.

804
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: I feel like they've already had their spark though, I

805
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 3: really do. I think in Philadelphia you had a spark,

806
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 3: and I think that spark didn't really catch all the way.

807
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 3: But like it's gonna start now, You're gonna start seeing

808
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: kind of a little smoke, you know how you ever

809
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 3: see how you watch naked and in a fray where

810
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: they got to get the thing going. They got to

811
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: get the spark first. When the smoke comes, then the

812
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 3: fire comes.

813
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: There's time. It's time.

814
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: Now more of a Bear Grills guy.

815
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: It's a little bit more. I mean I could, I

816
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: could understand. It's more Bear Grills has all these clothes on,

817
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 2: all these tools. They don't have anything.

818
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's a championship week in college football and

819
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: everyone's focused on the college football playoff rankings, it's time

820
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: for the Rams to get that resume win, right. That's

821
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: kind of where we started Minnesota, great resume win. They

822
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: need another one of those, not because it's gonna, you know,

823
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: get them up the rankings, but because it's gonna make

824
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: these final four weeks beyond, including Thursday night football against

825
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: San Francisco.

826
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: Can I ask you one question.

827
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: Let's say the Rams, and let's say the Rams play

828
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: their best game and then they lose by one.

829
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: How would you feel about that?

830
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: I would feel a lot like I did flying home

831
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: from Baltimore last week. That's why the parallel is is

832
00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: kind of close.

833
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: To the home. I want to say, they don't play

834
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: a good game, but they win.

835
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: I will say this, of the final five, this is

836
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: the least important game remaining on the RAMS schedule. If

837
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it would be the most

838
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: excusable lot. Like, I hate saying that out loud, but

839
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: that's what it is. If you were to rank the

840
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: final five, I guess it's probably Arizona because you don't

841
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: have a win against them yet. Seattle, San Francisco, Jets, Buffalo.

842
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: That's probably, off the top of my head what I

843
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: would say. Why not get them all?

844
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 2: Why not? When you control your destiny, That's what I'm

845
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 2: looking for you.

846
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: I think we already did keys to victory. Anything else

847
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: you want to tack on before I send this thing

848
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: back to the interwett.

849
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: Don't ever bring up Naked and Afraid ever again. I

850
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: watched that. Yeah, I just saw you out there.

851
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 3: No, no, listen, that's the one thing you don't have

852
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 3: to see me out there? Was the visual Marco work

853
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: too hard to be uncomfortable. That's what there goes a

854
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: model for you, work too hard to be uncomfortable. I

855
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: just like watching people being uncomfortable looking out this.

856
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: Man is dressed like he has any interest in being.

857
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: Naked, and that's the visual I had. Don't do that.

858
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 3: Let your might go there man, just like the Rams,

859
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 3: let's focus on Buffalo for m J D.

860
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: Damarco far m JB.

861
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: Long.

862
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: Hope you too can join us at SOFI Stadium. The

863
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: Rams are six and six. Is this the week they

864
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: get above five hundred for the first time? Thank you

865
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: for joining us for an extended extended episode between.

866
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Speaker 2: The Horns normal.

867
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Speaker 1: Normal back of the normal length as always presented by

868
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869
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:28,320
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