WEBVTT - They Call Me MacGyver: Gerald Blanchard

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>E Elizabeth Dutton, Mcgirls, Aaron Burnett. I got a question

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<v Speaker 2>for you. Have been burning as uh huh. You know

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<v Speaker 2>it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>I do?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you I do? We're just making that face.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm one hundred percent serious. It's ridiculously cool. Oh really yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>our listeners, Yeah, totally sure. So I have two things

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<v Speaker 3>for you today, listener mail. The first is from Summer

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<v Speaker 3>that says, Hi both. I'm a new listener from London, England.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm absolutely loving listening to the show. I'm currently listening

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<v Speaker 3>to The Ocean's ten the Baker Street robbery episode, and

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<v Speaker 3>have more information for you on the emergency circumcision ambulance mentioned.

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<v Speaker 2>At the beginning, Oh thank you, Sommer.

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<v Speaker 3>It was owned by a man called from Josevic, who

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<v Speaker 3>is a Hackney based private circumcisions surgeon. I say that

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<v Speaker 3>eighty five times. Who does home visits?

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<v Speaker 2>He's not a moil, He's not to somebody who does

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<v Speaker 2>the circumcisions culturally, Well, no he does.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I suppose he's an and Hackneys in East London.

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<v Speaker 3>The Audi TT was a private ambulance, so not part

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<v Speaker 3>of our national health service, so you can't call nine

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<v Speaker 3>nine nine our version of nine to one one to

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<v Speaker 3>get a call out. I believe, but can't confirm that

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<v Speaker 3>it services the Shamrim Jews. I'm maybe not saying that

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<v Speaker 3>right Jewish community in London, but don't quote me on that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll attach the relevant links below. Anyway, I'm loving the show,

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<v Speaker 3>can't wait to hear more. Summer.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I came through with the intel on that, so that

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<v Speaker 3>was ridiculously cool to get an update, a ridiculously cool update.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we heard from Jeremy through Instagram and he said, hey, y'all,

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<v Speaker 3>not sure if you guys already talked about this monstrosity

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<v Speaker 3>on the podcast intro, but if you haven't enjoyed this

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<v Speaker 3>food crime, they were first come, first serve, is what

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<v Speaker 3>he's saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh was this a mashup? Did you sneak a mashup?

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<v Speaker 2>Hask me? He gave me all like, oh, listener, Summer's

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<v Speaker 2>got this cool bit of fun fact. And then all

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<v Speaker 2>was by the way, if somebody decided they made an

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<v Speaker 2>edible bagel that you can wear as a shoe.

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<v Speaker 3>Close. So it says they were first come, first serve

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<v Speaker 3>on their Sauccles website late last year, and each box

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<v Speaker 3>got two tongue torchin and two zax sauce flavors. And

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<v Speaker 3>I was quote lucky enough to get a box of them.

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<v Speaker 3>And yes, they were just as horrendous tasting as they look.

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<v Speaker 2>What is sauccles. I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 3>So Zaxby's.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, the chicken price in the fast.

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<v Speaker 3>Food place, which is, if I think, is a fancy

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<v Speaker 3>fast food place. Where I lived in the deep rural South,

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<v Speaker 3>you had to drive like an hour to get to

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<v Speaker 3>fancy Zaxby's.

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<v Speaker 2>High class.

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<v Speaker 3>We have Bojangles. So they had saucicles which were popsicles

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<v Speaker 3>that were sauce flavored. Oh god, So it says Zaxby's

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<v Speaker 3>sauce is going where no sauce is gone before freezer.

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<v Speaker 3>Well they're saying that they've gone where no sauce is

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<v Speaker 3>gone before the freezer. Guess what people freeze sauce? Zaxby.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know how people live. And

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<v Speaker 3>it says why because we figured if you'll lick every

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<v Speaker 3>last drop of that legendary sauce off your fingers, you'll

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<v Speaker 3>probably lick every last drip of sauce off a popsicle.

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<v Speaker 3>So what are you waiting for? Get them? Will they're cold?

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<v Speaker 2>I question your reasoning about what I will do, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>Two flavors, yes, tongue torch, a mild garlicly peppery heat,

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<v Speaker 3>just cold. In other words, spice spice baby is what

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<v Speaker 3>it says. And then it also says ice cream. Use

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<v Speaker 3>This is for Zack's sauce, which I suppose is they're

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<v Speaker 3>like house sauce, You know, sauce Somalie draws up ice cream,

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<v Speaker 3>you scream, We all scream for this creamy blend of

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<v Speaker 3>zesty spices.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I be left out of this? Can I be

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<v Speaker 2>left out of the WII? Say?

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<v Speaker 3>The sauce sauccle freezer is empty, so they're not available anymore?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh darn.

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<v Speaker 3>And apparently they were shipping them places, but it says

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<v Speaker 3>here they couldn't ship them to California.

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<v Speaker 2>So is this like the Fall of Rome is the

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<v Speaker 2>weirdest stuff?

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<v Speaker 3>Weird decadent fall of Rome? In this country?

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<v Speaker 2>We were making animals extinct because they're just like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I like to eat their tongues.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well they're taking out the rare wild zaxonies.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't chicken with eight breasts a saucicle. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>need to know that way, Thanks, Jeremy oh Man, I

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<v Speaker 2>got I got something for you. You got a second

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get you back. No, this one's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a guy from Omaha, Nebraska, and I thought you did. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>his own mother said, quote, he looks like a nerd. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy, he'd given himself the street name mcguiver, So

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<v Speaker 2>you know I love him. Yeah, yeah, So he's basically

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<v Speaker 2>you know. For those who don't know, this story takes

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<v Speaker 2>place in the mid nineties, and mcgiver was an early

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<v Speaker 2>eighties poster boy for Ingenuity under Pressure. Right now, this

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<v Speaker 2>nerdy team from Omaha. He was like, I'm known for

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<v Speaker 2>my improvisational skills, right, but not to like blow up

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<v Speaker 2>cartel speedboats with like a hunk of bubblegum and like

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<v Speaker 2>a double a battery and a paper clip. No, that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of mcguiver. More like I can go to a

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<v Speaker 2>gas station and walk out with cartons of cigarettes mcgiver, Right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you know. Anyway, So this cat, he said, he

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<v Speaker 2>turns to crime, finds he's good at it. He's so

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<v Speaker 2>good he earns himself a new nickname. The James Bond

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<v Speaker 2>of Crime. That's an upgrade, right, totally right, and it

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<v Speaker 2>goes from TV to movies anyway. Supremely fitting because by then,

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<v Speaker 2>at this point the dude was allegedly parachuting onto Austrian

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<v Speaker 2>castles to steal priceless Crown jewels.

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<v Speaker 3>Get out.

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<v Speaker 2>Not bad for a kid from Omaha, huh huh.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and

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<v Speaker 4>outrageous capers.

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<v Speaker 2>Heicce and cons. Yes, it's always nine to nine percent

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<v Speaker 2>moder free and one ridiculous. Elizabeth saren so glad to

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<v Speaker 2>have you here, Thank you, because, oh boy, do I

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<v Speaker 2>have a very special episode of Ridiculous Crime for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Am I going to learn a lot By the time

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<v Speaker 3>it's over, We're all.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to be changed. Yeah. So you hear me say

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<v Speaker 2>this a fair bit a lot. We'll say these are

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<v Speaker 2>my kind of guys, or like, this is my dude,

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<v Speaker 2>this chat I love him, right, But in this instance,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd say all of those are true. This is my

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<v Speaker 2>kind of guy. Oh really, my dude, I love this cat.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So meet Gerald Blanchard, International Burglar Extraordinaire. He's also the

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<v Speaker 2>star in the focus of a new documentary that's about

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<v Speaker 2>to come out from Hulu called The Jewel Thief. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the folks from Hula, they reached out to ridiculous Crime,

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<v Speaker 2>and they said to me, you don't open the emails.

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<v Speaker 2>I opened the email, so they sent me an early screen,

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<v Speaker 2>or they would have sent you on if you opened

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<v Speaker 2>your email. But anyway, I watched it. I enjoyed it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't tell you about it. So I'm gonna tell

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<v Speaker 2>you about it now. So I thought i'd tell you

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<v Speaker 2>about my dude, Gerald Blanchard. Now I told you up

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<v Speaker 2>tom dudes from Omaha, Nebraska. That's not exactly true. I've

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<v Speaker 2>already started lying to you. Oh right, you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>history begins earlier than that. He was originally from Canada.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, like, is he conceived in Canada?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, he's not that kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that how far back you're going?

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<v Speaker 2>Like he was a glimmer in his parent's eye? But no,

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<v Speaker 2>he was. He was adopted by two loving parents and

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<v Speaker 2>then raised in a family and home of wealth and privilege. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>But then, as so often happens for those featured on

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<v Speaker 2>this show, there was a schism in his childhood and

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<v Speaker 2>fracturing of a sense of what is and what could

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<v Speaker 2>be and what was about to be, because he went

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<v Speaker 2>from living as a comfortly secure Canadian to being the

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<v Speaker 2>son of a single mother barely scraping by to care

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<v Speaker 2>for herself and her young son in America. Oh wow, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So his parents get divorced, right, that was the schism

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<v Speaker 2>for Gerald. Parental divorce. This fractured his life into before

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<v Speaker 2>and after. Right now, after the divorce is newly single mom.

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<v Speaker 2>She moves across the border, as they said, to Nebraska.

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<v Speaker 2>She finds work, she tries to raise her adopted son

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<v Speaker 2>on her own. It's not easy because America, but they

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<v Speaker 2>make a go of it, right, I don't want you

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<v Speaker 2>worrying too much. And they had each other. Their love

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<v Speaker 2>was just you know, holding them as their bond, their

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<v Speaker 2>bond super strong.

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<v Speaker 3>So they had each other, but not health insurance exactly America.

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<v Speaker 2>So the bank for closes on their home and this

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<v Speaker 2>is like a devastating blow to the young boy. This

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<v Speaker 2>becomes the real final schism that brooked'reilled away from we'll

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<v Speaker 2>call the path of a normal life. Right at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, I despise the banks, you know, He's like

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<v Speaker 2>one of the depression era of people like maybe he's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna start shooting at the revenue man, right. So he's

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<v Speaker 2>like decides that what the banks have done to his

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<v Speaker 2>mother and to him is a crime, right. And his

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<v Speaker 2>mother had begged and pleaded and said, I can make

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<v Speaker 2>a new payment arrangements, please don't take our home, and

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<v Speaker 2>the bank's like, a lady, this has more value do

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<v Speaker 2>it to us than to you. She's like, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>my home, right, And he's like, this is just cruel.

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<v Speaker 2>So he decides, I'm going to go full nineties on this, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So he did as many of our folk heroes opted

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<v Speaker 2>to do. He turns to crime. So he starts with,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, initially stealing food from stores. Yeah, nothing big.

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<v Speaker 3>Very very like you know, limiz of him, very.

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<v Speaker 2>Lame, is very limb, is very lea miz in Omaha.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's going down to like the local like gas

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<v Speaker 2>and gulp and grabbing like stuff, right, and so this

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<v Speaker 2>is mostly for him and his mom, and then he

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<v Speaker 2>goes both moves on to stealing us as I said,

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<v Speaker 2>cigarettes or whatever for his teenage friend. Now you were

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<v Speaker 2>there for the early nineties, Elizabeth, I was. Now you

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<v Speaker 2>remember the bangs that were hair sprayed into gravity defining. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you remember the Aquinet bathroom era, right walking, they be

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<v Speaker 2>a cloud. Okay. Now, imagine like two or three of

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<v Speaker 2>those girls with the acid washed jeans. They're all giggles

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<v Speaker 2>and like hair sprayed bangs, and there's this skinny teene

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<v Speaker 2>boy shirtless because you know o mah, and he's outwitting

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<v Speaker 2>the clerk at work in the night ship.

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<v Speaker 3>He's shirtless in the in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Gas station, he's getting service. He's no shoes, no shirt,

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<v Speaker 2>no service.

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<v Speaker 3>All around with no shirts more often.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, well into the nineties. You know, people think, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a seventies and I'm like, no, that really kept going.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like, that's up.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened nine to eleven. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what towers fell. It was just like

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<v Speaker 3>the spark out of.

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<v Speaker 2>Go shirt list. He can't be showing your nips and

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<v Speaker 2>that anymore serious people. But in all seriousness, it was working,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the local gas and gulp late at night

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<v Speaker 2>and he's there, shirtless, skinny boy impressing the girls with

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<v Speaker 2>the bangs, snaking out carts cigarettes right under the eyes

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<v Speaker 2>of like, you know, this dopey clerk. Now that's not

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<v Speaker 2>too hard. So he's like, oh, I'm good at this,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was getting a name. So he's like known

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<v Speaker 2>as like the guy takes risks, right, and everybody else

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<v Speaker 2>cigarette dirt bag exactly, all the kids know. He's like

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<v Speaker 2>he'll be the one man he's steal like a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the stereo from radio shack. Yeah, okay, yeah, exactly. High crimes, Elizabeth,

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<v Speaker 2>high crimes. So I saw, as I told you the

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<v Speaker 2>documentary about him, so I know a little bit about him,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know some things like he broke ridiculous crime

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<v Speaker 2>Commandment number two do not film yourself in the commission

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<v Speaker 2>of a felony.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the way I know about how these girls looked

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<v Speaker 2>and everything is that they had cameras in the gas

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<v Speaker 2>station filming him, and they filmed him like steal the

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<v Speaker 2>cigarettes and run out to the car and everything. So

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<v Speaker 2>he was just always doing this. But like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the early nineties, so this wasn't like a

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<v Speaker 2>camera phone. They had like a video camera in somebody's hand,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like they're filming.

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<v Speaker 3>So it wasn't like security cameras his buddies for filming

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<v Speaker 3>it like an episode of cops.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or like reality bites or something. It's like like

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<v Speaker 2>they're like talking to the camera anyway. So this guy

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<v Speaker 2>looks like a nerd. He's the one who's gonna grow

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<v Speaker 2>up to be the James Bond of crime. So how

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<v Speaker 2>does he do this? Well, okay, so budding antihero Gerald Blanchard,

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<v Speaker 2>he as I said, starts to make a name for himself.

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<v Speaker 2>He does actually start stealing from Radio Shack. He starts

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<v Speaker 2>stealing stereo components, speakers, cameras. He's selling it to these

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<v Speaker 2>other kids. They got this new thing called a cell phone.

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<v Speaker 2>The cell phone. It looks like a like a red

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<v Speaker 2>brick wrapped in plastic with an antenna shoved in. It

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<v Speaker 2>is huge, right, It's like Radio Shack's cell phone. Now

0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.040
<v Speaker 2>you can call from like the Little League game or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>So his peers and Omaha are loving him because he's

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<v Speaker 2>dealing all the stuff that they would want to buy

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<v Speaker 2>hot commodities. Now he starts getting living the good life.

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<v Speaker 2>He's buying new clothes, he's buying himself in the tech toys,

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<v Speaker 2>fancy watches, expensive labels.

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<v Speaker 3>He develops microwaves, cd ron exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So into hotels with free cable, who waterbeds, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>HBO anyway, So now he's that one guy at the

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<v Speaker 2>school everybody knows, right, and so eventually this means the

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<v Speaker 2>cops know about him. So soon enough the fate follows.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets busted, Swat shows up at his mother's house.

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<v Speaker 2>They go breaking in, they find all this stolen gear

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<v Speaker 2>he's got stored in the garage. Age fifteen, Gerald Blanchard

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<v Speaker 2>is busted for the first time. All right, cocky teen

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<v Speaker 2>did not see it coming, even if he knew it

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<v Speaker 2>was a possibility, still a surprise because he's fifteen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we were fifteen boys were like, no, it won't happen

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<v Speaker 2>to me. Happened to him, So well, he gets lucky though,

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<v Speaker 2>because what happens to him is American racism. Floats his

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<v Speaker 2>boat right, because he gets to go to court and

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<v Speaker 2>rather than have his future snatched away from him by

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<v Speaker 2>some over zealous judge, the judge looks at him and goes, well,

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<v Speaker 2>was just just a little white boys gotten himself into

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<v Speaker 2>a little spat of trouble. You know, it is a

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<v Speaker 2>wayward kid. And he decides, you know, this youthful indiscretion,

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<v Speaker 2>she could probably best be met by some parole. So

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<v Speaker 2>he lets him go even though this guy was moving

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<v Speaker 2>basically moving trucks worth of stolen equipment.

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<v Speaker 3>It was that much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, so still a youthful in discretion, right. So

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<v Speaker 2>he gets granted parole and the wayward white boy does

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<v Speaker 2>he fix his errand ways? Elizabeth?

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<v Speaker 3>He does not?

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<v Speaker 2>He no, Instead, he goes and as Blanchard puts it,

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<v Speaker 2>he got smarter, better and bigger. Okay, see why I

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<v Speaker 2>love this guy. So he gets still good at crime.

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<v Speaker 2>He's able to buy his mother a house.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, new.

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<v Speaker 2>Home, and won the bank can't take away because he's

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<v Speaker 2>all paid for. He pays for the whole thing. Why

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<v Speaker 2>is the house right?

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<v Speaker 3>Nice?

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<v Speaker 2>And he buries about one hundred grand behind his mom's

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<v Speaker 2>house for tough times. So at that time, Gerald was

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen years old.

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<v Speaker 3>He bought a home at sixteen after earlier? How does

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<v Speaker 3>that work? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of he had He told his mom that

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<v Speaker 2>he worked to deal with his friends, and his friend

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<v Speaker 2>paid for the house and then his mom's like, okay, details, how.

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<v Speaker 3>Did they transfer all this? I have logistical question.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was like, you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>put it into an escrow account as like and then

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<v Speaker 2>just wrote, you know, a credit line from there. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how the money was managed, but I know

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<v Speaker 2>that it was worked through other adults. Interesting, that's the story.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I know. Now, Boom, this starts his real

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<v Speaker 2>crime career. He's buying houses. Now, yeah, exactly. So at

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<v Speaker 2>this point on he's a career criminal with a heart

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<v Speaker 2>of gold. And at one point he has this miraculous

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<v Speaker 2>double escape from police custody as a Gerald tells the

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<v Speaker 2>story in The Doctor Jewel Thief, and he's like all

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<v Speaker 2>casual about it. He's like, quote, a friend of mine

0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.360
<v Speaker 2>set his car on fire to collect on the insurance.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the start of the story, right, so, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as one does when you're a middle aged guy or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, or a made man. You know, this is

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<v Speaker 2>what that's what you come up with when you just

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<v Speaker 2>set the car on fire to get the insurance. But

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<v Speaker 2>because he's a teenage boy and he's in Omahan, they're

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<v Speaker 2>doing it in the middle of nowhere. They're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>how much gasoline do we need to set a car

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<v Speaker 2>on fire? Elizabeth? How much gasoline do you think you

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<v Speaker 2>would need? I don't know them gallons and I'll give

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<v Speaker 2>you just you know, numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know two gallons of guess.

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<v Speaker 2>They used ten ten gallons of gas. Ten gallons was

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<v Speaker 2>too much, that was overkill.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like two of those like tanks you fill up

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<v Speaker 3>for your lawnmower.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those small ones usually music too. The bigger ones

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<v Speaker 2>like for like cars and trucks, and they do five

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<v Speaker 2>the bigger, bigger red one. Yeah, I know, two of

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<v Speaker 2>those those red pour it all over a car and

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<v Speaker 2>then throw the match. Now they have a fire bomb, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the fire bomb goes off, boom, but just to get

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<v Speaker 2>it going, they get the fire started. No gas tank yet,

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<v Speaker 2>fire enough, the big black smoke oes. Cops see this

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<v Speaker 2>on the horizon, like what's going on over the hill.

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<v Speaker 2>So they go and they go and to check, well, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Wonder how much gas was in the car?

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<v Speaker 2>Good question? Thank you, Thank you so much, like that

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<v Speaker 2>you bring your a game to thank you. So the

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<v Speaker 2>boys hide out when they see the cops come up.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Gerald's like, you know what, I'm tired of

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<v Speaker 2>hide now. So he's like he tells his buddy, who's

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<v Speaker 2>like a little bit less brave. We'll say, He's like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you wait here, And I said I'm waiting here. So

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, I'm gonna go talk to the cops. He

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<v Speaker 2>walks out in the middle of nowhere and the cops

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<v Speaker 2>are like, what are you doing there. He's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a car on fire, so I thought i'd come

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<v Speaker 2>over here and see what's going on. The cops like uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh so and he reeks of gasoline.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that's the other thing. So he's like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>the afternoon officers, what's up with the car fire. They're like, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>you smell like gasoline. Oh no, he did, yeah, absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>reeked up it right. And they also recognize him because

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<v Speaker 2>I said, the kids all have been talking about him.

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<v Speaker 2>He is that guy in a small town. So they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's you. So then he gets busted. So while he's

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<v Speaker 2>talking to the cops, the car explodes.

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<v Speaker 4>Come home.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. They're like, sorry, we're taking you in. They arrest them.

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<v Speaker 2>They cough, and they're like, you know what, you're coming

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<v Speaker 2>with us. So they take him into the cops shop

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<v Speaker 2>and then Gerald's word, they make the mistake of disrespecting him.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So this sixteen year old is gonna make these

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<v Speaker 2>police officers learned that you don't disrespect him. Let's take

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<v Speaker 2>a little break, and I'll tell you how it goes

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<v Speaker 2>when he gets his vengeance against these local cops for

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<v Speaker 2>trying to disrespect him for pulling a you know, an

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<v Speaker 2>insurance shop when he shouldn't have.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Elizabeth, Okay, we're back and now, okay, I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So we had the car be a fire bomb

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<v Speaker 2>by the teenage boys. The cops have arrested one. They've

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<v Speaker 2>taken Gerald back to the cop shop, and as Gerald

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<v Speaker 2>said in the documentary The Jewel of Faith, they said

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<v Speaker 2>he said, quote, they brought me into the police station.

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<v Speaker 2>The police officer totally disrespected me. And I knew I

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<v Speaker 2>was smarter than him. I knew I was better than him. Yeah,

0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.399
<v Speaker 2>little cocky kid, right, So he gets to work on

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<v Speaker 2>getting his revenge. So keep in mind, he's in police custody,

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<v Speaker 2>he's in the cop shop. His buddy who you know

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<v Speaker 2>whose car they blew up, That guy is still on

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<v Speaker 2>the loose. He's out there. So he has a police

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<v Speaker 2>scanner radio because they've been at this little while. So

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<v Speaker 2>they roll around with the police scanner radio and he's

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<v Speaker 2>listening for a word on Gerald, right, and then he

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<v Speaker 2>hears something while Gerald was in the interrogation room. Apparently

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<v Speaker 2>not handcuffed, Gerald climbed up on the table. He opened

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<v Speaker 2>up the ceiling tiles, pulled himself up into the space

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<v Speaker 2>for the air ducts, and then he slid the ceiling

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<v Speaker 2>tiles closed and then starts crawling around the police station's

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<v Speaker 2>ventilation system.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Yes, it's amazing. The cops walk back

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<v Speaker 2>into the terry gation's room. He's gone, right. They're like,

0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:24.000
<v Speaker 2>the kid's gone, What the heck? Right, They're like aliens magic, right, and.

0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:25.720
<v Speaker 3>They're wondering why in the rest of the building the

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<v Speaker 3>tiles move every now and then in dust comes from

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<v Speaker 3>the scene.

0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Remember though, skinny kids, I think he can manage on

0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:32.919
<v Speaker 2>those like aluminum braces. He's not moving the tiles.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's wow, exactly, that kid's got stones.

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<v Speaker 2>So he stays up there. Cops are flabbergasted, and they

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<v Speaker 2>put out word over the radio. Gerald Blanchard has escaped

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<v Speaker 2>from police custody. His buddy, his friend's listening to this.

0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.920
<v Speaker 2>He's like, oh yeah. He drives out of the cop

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<v Speaker 2>shop to see if Gerald needs his help.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So the police in the station, they were looking

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<v Speaker 2>for this Houdini kid. They're looking every looking underdsk they're

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<v Speaker 2>looking in cars, they can't find them. Gerald is gone, gone, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So the cops are full panic at this point. What

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<v Speaker 2>are we gonna do? What we call his mom? What

0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:07.200
<v Speaker 2>do we do? So meanwhile, the teenage boy is watching

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<v Speaker 2>all of this through the events, just amuse tickled. His

0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:12.560
<v Speaker 2>friend gets brought in. He watches his friend get interrogated,

0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:14.560
<v Speaker 2>and then his friend's like, yeah man, They're like, what

0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:15.800
<v Speaker 2>are you doing here? And he's like, I came to

0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:19.280
<v Speaker 2>see if Gerald needed help getting away. Oh Chro's like yeah,

0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:21.800
<v Speaker 2>that's my dog, right. He's loving all this right, So

0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:23.520
<v Speaker 2>the cops are like, okay, you're free to go, buddy,

0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:26.240
<v Speaker 2>and his friendly's right. So Gerald watching all this waits

0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:29.320
<v Speaker 2>till one am. The cops decide, well, guess we can't

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<v Speaker 2>find him. Turn off the lights. They lock up the station.

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<v Speaker 3>They wait kidding, Oh my god, I think it's more like.

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<v Speaker 2>The detective's room. I don't think the entire police station.

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<v Speaker 2>But they lock up for us. Yeah, so that's it. No,

0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:43.280
<v Speaker 2>they call it right. So then he drops down out

0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:47.200
<v Speaker 2>of the ceiling tiles. He goes over to the detective

0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:50.240
<v Speaker 2>who disrespected him, and he goes over to his desk.

0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:52.879
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't think guy's not asleep at his desk. He

0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:55.080
<v Speaker 2>goes over to his desk, right, and then he quote

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<v Speaker 2>takes the cops gun, his badge, his walkie talkie, the

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of his wife and it's kids off of his desk,

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<v Speaker 2>his rolodex file, and I took a bullet out of

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<v Speaker 2>his gun, put a happy face on it and stuck

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<v Speaker 2>it right on the middle of the desk.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, Like the what is in this this child?

0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:17.040
<v Speaker 3>But also why does the cop leave his gun unsecured

0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:17.720
<v Speaker 3>in his desk?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess this is I mean, basically the response the

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<v Speaker 2>nineties Omaha Nebraskat hadn't gotten full militarized yet once again,

0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:27.119
<v Speaker 2>even so, they don't have all the tanks and everything

0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:29.560
<v Speaker 2>they've gotten fully militarized, so I think they're like down

0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:31.840
<v Speaker 2>home cops there. Like I locked my desk drawer. Oh

0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:33.800
<v Speaker 2>I forgot to lock my desk drawer. Whatever, the door

0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:36.399
<v Speaker 2>is locked at the detective's office. I don't know. I

0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:38.280
<v Speaker 2>have no idea. It surprised me. I'm surprised he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get cup in the interrogation room.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, there's you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many things. I'm like, Wow, things are casual

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<v Speaker 2>and Omaha anyway. So, as Gerald puts it, everyone should

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<v Speaker 2>be respected no matter what. But when someone disrespects you,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a problem, or at least I have a problem,

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<v Speaker 2>and I will make you pay for it. Oh yike,

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<v Speaker 2>man Diddy. Because Gerald's not done, Gerald bundles all this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff into a police uffle bag and he bounces. So

0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:03.720
<v Speaker 2>he leaves the dude's gun, his badge, pictures of his wife.

0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:06.159
<v Speaker 2>Now he's in a chess match with the Omaha police,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's trying to help think him. He's okay, what

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<v Speaker 2>did they think that I would go? What's a safe

0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:11.119
<v Speaker 2>place that they wouldn't think that I would think that

0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:13.600
<v Speaker 2>he's doing all this Inteed decides I'm gonna go home

0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:16.119
<v Speaker 2>because he's a teenage boss. They wouldn't think that I

0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:18.280
<v Speaker 2>would be dumb enough to go there. And also he

0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:20.399
<v Speaker 2>just really wanted to sleep, So he goes back to

0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:22.680
<v Speaker 2>his house, goes home, goes to sleep. Next morning, the

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<v Speaker 2>Blues and Twos roll up to his house. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, bubble gum machines blaring the lights. They come

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<v Speaker 2>out with full riot gear swat team. They bust down

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<v Speaker 2>the door, show up like guns in his face and

0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:36.760
<v Speaker 2>he's not in bed. Nobody he's there. They're like, what

0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:38.880
<v Speaker 2>I thought they care to be here? Takes them a while.

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<v Speaker 2>They go digging through boxes and boxes and they go

0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:43.720
<v Speaker 2>into this one closet fill the box. They take some

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<v Speaker 2>ten fifteen minutes to pull all the boxes out. They

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<v Speaker 2>finally pull all the boxes out and there behind like

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<v Speaker 2>some little crawl spaces a half naked Gerald going, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you caught me. So he gets brought in, right, he's arrested.

0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Now remember I said double escape.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, so listen.

0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Now he got wrapped. Once he's a rest he's back

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<v Speaker 2>in custody. So he gets transferred. The arresting detective tells

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<v Speaker 2>the Omaha Pde uniform Cup be careful. This guy's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of slick, right, uniform Cup. You gotta see this guy

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<v Speaker 2>in the documentary. It's really macho.

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<v Speaker 5>God.

0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:13.720
<v Speaker 2>He's like, tells the story great, and he's like, yeah,

0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:15.680
<v Speaker 2>they ain't gonna be a problem. This nerdy kidd ache

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get away from me right there. I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 2>this is foreshadowing. He can take away from you. Roger

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<v Speaker 2>Ramjet So cut to him. A few moments later, they're

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<v Speaker 2>at Central booking the uniform officer he parks. He gets

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<v Speaker 2>out of his patrol car, leaving Gerald in the back

0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:32.600
<v Speaker 2>handcuffs on right behind his back. He's canna cuff this, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>But before the cop can say John Jacob Jingleheimerschmidt, Gerald

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<v Speaker 2>has hopped over the seat, drops into the driver's seat

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<v Speaker 2>of the cop car, locks the cop car doors. Then

0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:44.199
<v Speaker 2>the cop spins around. When he hears the doors locked, he

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<v Speaker 2>sees the suspect now in his patrol car with like

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<v Speaker 2>his gun and his keys. His hands are up in

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<v Speaker 2>front of his face, now holding onto the steering wheel.

0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:53.040
<v Speaker 2>He's managed to get them over his head or under

0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:56.320
<v Speaker 2>his kick exactly, so his hands no longer behind his back.

0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:59.239
<v Speaker 2>He grabs the steering wheel. The cop goes, oh no,

0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:02.399
<v Speaker 2>he really His whole career starts splashing before his eyes.

0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:04.679
<v Speaker 2>What does he do? What does he do? Elizabeth? He

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<v Speaker 2>goes for his gun and he draws on the boy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean he's because the kid's behind the wheel.

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<v Speaker 3>He's now behind the wheel of a lethal weapon.

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:15.200
<v Speaker 2>That's true that you're you're much more stute than I'm.

0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm just thinking, like, Okay, what are you gonna do?

0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Shoot the cop car? So he's like he's going to

0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:23.320
<v Speaker 2>do exactly, He's prepared. But then I think the you know,

0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:25.439
<v Speaker 2>Gerald knew that he wouldn't. So all the screaming is

0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:28.480
<v Speaker 2>going on in the cop shop full volume. Remember they're

0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:30.960
<v Speaker 2>in Central Booking parking lot of Central. The cops just

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:33.600
<v Speaker 2>popped out for a second. So the guy's yelling like

0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:35.439
<v Speaker 2>it's like you know in Reservoir Dogs when they had

0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:37.959
<v Speaker 2>that moment. Look, buddy, I will shoot you in the face.

0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:39.760
<v Speaker 2>That's what I was picturing. When he's telling the story,

0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:42.200
<v Speaker 2>he's like all angry, right, So he squared off cop

0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:46.000
<v Speaker 2>in criminal What does the kid do? What does Gerald do?

0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Put it in reverse, and well he's the cop has

0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:51.440
<v Speaker 2>backed in, so they're facing each other. He's looking at them,

0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:57.359
<v Speaker 2>he's looking. He drives right, he punches hid so he

0:23:57.400 --> 0:23:59.200
<v Speaker 2>floors and he puts the cop up on the hood

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<v Speaker 2>of his own car, dumps a cop behind him. Tire squeal,

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:06.119
<v Speaker 2>smoke fills the arrow. Gerald races off. He drives through

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:10.280
<v Speaker 2>the parking lot style gate shatters that he's on the loose, right,

0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:11.920
<v Speaker 2>So what does he do now? He drives one state

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<v Speaker 2>away in a.

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:13.800
<v Speaker 3>Cop car in a cop car.

0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:18.119
<v Speaker 2>So the original arresting detective was in Iowa, right. So

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:21.440
<v Speaker 2>he's out working a traffic accident scene directing traffic. He

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:24.160
<v Speaker 2>spots a car in Iowa because this is taking place

0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:28.680
<v Speaker 2>with Council Bluffs, Iowa and Obaha, Nebraska. So he drives

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:31.159
<v Speaker 2>over to Council Bluffs, Iowa, one state away, right, And

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:35.480
<v Speaker 2>this is a neighboring jurisdiction essentially, but the neighboring jurisdiction

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:37.560
<v Speaker 2>is a different step. So the cop is in Iowa

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:39.600
<v Speaker 2>and now he's wondering what an Omaha cop car is

0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:42.080
<v Speaker 2>doing in Iowa coming up on a traffic scene. But

0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:44.560
<v Speaker 2>he's like whatever, starts waving the guy through. He's like,

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:46.520
<v Speaker 2>I must be doing business. Maybe he's going home to

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<v Speaker 2>his wife. I don't know what it is. Right then

0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 2>he notices, like, wait a minute, that's not a cop.

0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:55.600
<v Speaker 2>He sees a shirtless, half naked Gerald Blanch shirtless behind

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<v Speaker 2>the wheel. I don't know when he took his clothes off,

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:02.200
<v Speaker 2>never put a shirt on him. Yes, anyway, he's sitting there,

0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:03.960
<v Speaker 2>he's a you know, naked from the waist up, and

0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:06.359
<v Speaker 2>he just kind of like meekly waves at the cop

0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:10.639
<v Speaker 2>cop has Yes, exactly, you're picturing it. Cop has mom like,

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:11.440
<v Speaker 2>am I having a stroke?

0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 2>What's going on? He like drops his clipboard and everything

0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:16.359
<v Speaker 2>from the accident scened runs over his cop car and

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:18.639
<v Speaker 2>he gives chase right, so then boom and then the

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:21.240
<v Speaker 2>finally they managed they chase him for a while, they

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:24.280
<v Speaker 2>catch Gerald and boom. Because of all of these charges,

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:25.560
<v Speaker 2>he's now going to prison.

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:26.439
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I would say so.

0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So he goes off to prison and that's really

0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:32.720
<v Speaker 2>becomes a real, real criminal. And after he comes out,

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:36.160
<v Speaker 2>I was like, this guy is like, you know, he's

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:38.239
<v Speaker 2>moved on from I'm gonna steal from Radio Shack. Now

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I'm ready to be James Bond because you

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 2>made me a hard criminal exactly. So this guy rare

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:47.360
<v Speaker 2>one total lollapalooza of a man rather than a pull

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:49.639
<v Speaker 2>quotes from like newspaper articles or you know, share more

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:50.680
<v Speaker 2>quotes from the Hulu doc.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a surprise for you, accent.

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, I figured we could hear from Gerald himself. What Yeah,

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 2>I sat down with him for an interview. No producer, Dave,

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<v Speaker 2>would you hit play? Well? Gerald, thank you for making

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 2>time to speak with ridiculous crime. I'm super stoked to

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 2>talk to you. I've checked out the Whola documentary The

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 2>Jewel Thief. I very much enjoyed it, and I am

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 2>just super gitty to speak with you today. So thank

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 2>you for making time.

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 5>For us, Thanks for having me on your shoulder.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Gerald, I did my research. I saw your government name,

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 2>Gerald Daniel Blanchard, street name mcguiver. You're called the James

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Bond of crime. But I want to ask you which

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 2>criminal title do you prefer? Master thief, international, criminal mastermind?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, when I was younger in Omaha, Nebraska, my street

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 5>name was mcgiver because I would always be tinkerringing with

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 5>electronics and doing pranks in high school with friends, like

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 5>shocking the biggest guy in high school, like a guy

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:43.199
<v Speaker 5>named or Meets for an example. So my school was

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 5>like really tough, and that's why they gave me that

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:49.159
<v Speaker 5>street name mcgiver or actually, and they also called me

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:51.440
<v Speaker 5>the Wizard when I was in jail. But those were

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 5>the two names.

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Nice and nice. And now what do you prefer in

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:56.399
<v Speaker 2>terms of like your criminal appellation? Do you like a

0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 2>criminal mastermind? Do you like master thief? Do you like

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:00.919
<v Speaker 2>jewel thief? What do you think making yourself as if

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:03.359
<v Speaker 2>you were to be, you know, described in such terms.

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:05.880
<v Speaker 5>Well, if I had to be described, I would probably

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 5>just say I don't know, maybe just Gerald because the

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 5>past is the past.

0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Fair enough. Look at that, Elizabeth, My god, I am.

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 3>Like, I am having such a hard time processing this.

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:21.120
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe you actually talked to him.

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I gotta have to finally talk to one of

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 2>my dudes, the Wizard. Yes, the Wizard and I we

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:28.920
<v Speaker 2>mashed it up. This is my idea of the mash up, Elizabeth. See,

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:32.120
<v Speaker 2>we like the King mash up. So we got the guy,

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:34.320
<v Speaker 2>the actual guy. And I said, like, you know, like

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I wanted asking all these questions, the ones we constantly pose,

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 2>which is like, you know, what's life like as a

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:42.119
<v Speaker 2>professional criminal? Like you know, we're your role models, and

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I'd like in all honestly, these are the things I read.

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 3>How many movies have you watched? Are you writing a book?

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Exactly? When do you get a book deal? Do you

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 2>have a literary agent? So this is I have their number?

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Exactly what do I have to do a crime? Or

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 2>can I? Can I fake a crime and then do anyway?

0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 2>So this is like the first time really coming forward

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 2>and telling his story, not to us but the Hulu

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 2>doc He comes from this o so but he'd.

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 3>Ha, oh that's right, I'd forgotten about the Houlah Yeah.

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 2>Sorry. So he had other opportunities in the past to

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 2>come forward. There are big name people who asked him

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 2>to tell the story, like names, you know, like Oprah.

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 2>What he's one of the few people to tell.

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:19.879
<v Speaker 3>Oprah no, And like he said no to Oprah.

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, day, I can you play the club?

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 5>Thirteen years ago, Oprah actually called my criminal lawyer, Danny

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 5>Gunn from Winnipeg, Manitoba, requested for me to do an interview,

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:33.160
<v Speaker 5>and I turned her down because I wanted my privacy.

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 5>And I decided to do this documentary with Landon in

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 5>Hulu because I thought it was the right time to

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 5>tell my side of the story and what things transpired.

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 2>Right. So he says no to Oprah.

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 3>Wow, I mean, like does he have like is there

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 3>a price on his head now that he's denied Oprah something?

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 2>I think he kind of had to wait for some things.

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Deceimber down Stadman's outside of his house in the bushes,

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 3>like the silencer.

0:28:56.000 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Nobody says no to Oprah tightening the silence. So, uh,

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 2>the systeps was our you know, our chance to actually

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 2>talk to an actual, factual international jewel thief. Yeah. I

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 2>asked a lot of the things that we wonder about

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 2>on this show. I didn't go for, like, you know,

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 2>the normal questions of like a respectable journalist might. I

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 2>went for the questions we want to know they answer to,

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Like who did you look up to when you were

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 2>a baby crimer? I asked him, you know, like when

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 2>when you were a young perp, who did you want

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 2>to be? Things like that, Right, So I said, uh, Dave,

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 2>do you mind this doc from Hulu, The Jewel Thief?

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 2>It covers your impressive criminal career. And I just was

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 2>just curious because we spent a lot of time talking

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 2>about criminals on our show, and we often look at

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 2>the arc of a career, and I was wondering, when

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 2>you were first starting out, who did you look up to?

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Who did you have as your criminal role models?

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 5>Actually it was Batman and Robin and I was always

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 5>fascinated by they were trying to catch the bad guy,

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 5>and that seemed like it was easier to be a

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 5>bad guy than a good guy.

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Mm hm.

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 5>So I remember when I was younger watching the show,

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 5>and then I remember, like my first heist and that

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 5>was going to o the neighbor's milk because when my

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 5>mom left my father, we were actually really poor.

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh right, Oh my god.

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Batman and Robin are his criminal role model. He's like,

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 2>it's easier to beat the bad guy. Is amazing. He

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 2>takes all the wrong it is amazing.

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 3>Is like the greatest day of my life.

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:18.239
<v Speaker 2>I thought you loved this. A little surprise for you.

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 3>It's so good.

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 2>And his first heist is stealing milk. You know, he's

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 2>like my first tie. That's when I was a milk runner, but.

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 3>It was for a good cause.

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Totally. Oh yeah, you got I gotta say.

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 3>Too, Zaren, you would almost think that you were a journalist.

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 3>These amazing questions.

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, let's just pretend along, all right, So the questions

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 2>we always talk about, Right, as I said, I gotta

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 2>finally ask one of my dudes. And I was like,

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 2>I love this answer. Isn't like Michael mant heat or Scorse,

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 2>it's Batman and Robins.

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly.

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 2>So I also got to ask him, like I said

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 2>at one point, quote, we found a lot of criminals

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 2>who escape into the movies and the shows they watch,

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, telling, they start imagining this bigger,

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 2>better life that's existing up on the screen right or

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 2>the flickering screen of TV, the silver screen of movie theater,

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is. I'm like a lot of them, that's

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 2>where they and also they get their ideas where the crimes.

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 2>So I asked Gerald, like, did you ever do that?

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 5>And he was like, actually, pro no, I was just

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 5>more creative on my own ways.

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Don't you love this guy?

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay?

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:10.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I was like I want to tell him by like

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 2>we don't faid, but he's like, no, I don't do that.

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 2>I was like, never mind, moving on.

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 3>So much better than that.

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 2>So I see he's very much his own guy, a

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 2>little cocky, which I also like. And I asked him

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 2>about his strong moral code because you'll notice he has this.

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 2>It showed his moral code showed off very early from

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 2>like you know, his first bust at fifteen. He's kind

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 2>of like that train robbing bandit Billy Minor that way.

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 2>He's like, he has his real strong code. He won't

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 2>rob individuals. He only robs companies, corporations, and then like

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 2>when he like robs from banks and stuff. He'll like

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 2>call the credit card companies and be like, here's all

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 2>the credit cards that I took. So if you see

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 2>these charges, don't oh well, yeah, he's insane. So Gerald

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 2>told me about how he was like, in my words,

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 2>that kind of like a mafia don honoring the code

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 2>of Omerta. When he gets busted, he wouldn't say a word, right,

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 2>no matter how much the cops tried to scare the

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 2>kid that was sitting across the table from them for

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:00.720
<v Speaker 2>his first big bust. He's out. They're looking at for

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:01.240
<v Speaker 2>his crew.

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 3>Right, this is amazing.

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 5>We know the manager of the store has been involved.

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 5>And the police officer gave me a pencil and a

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 5>piece of paper and said, write down on this paper

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 5>and tell me exactly what happened and you can go

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 5>home tonight, and if you don't, you're going to jail.

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 5>That's the first time in my life I had to

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<v Speaker 5>make the decision. Am I going to be a rat

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 5>and keeps solid? And I said, Okay, if I rat

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 5>this guy out, he's going to lose his job, he

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 5>has a family, he has kids, He's going to go

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 5>to jail. I'm going to destroy this guy's life. But

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 5>if I keep my mouth shut, what's going to happen.

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 5>They're going to send me to youth jail.

0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 2>This kid's got a pair on him, right, seriously, so

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 2>he refuses a snitch. He takes his sentence like he's

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Polly Walnuts and this earns him respect when he gets

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 2>on the inside.

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 3>He's not violent. I mean he did hit that cop,

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 3>which is like he's probably still in phad.

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Pulled a gun on him. I mean, you're kind of

0:32:57.400 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 2>escalated to the point of like I think he would

0:32:59.120 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 2>have driven away without it.

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 3>I just think of his poor knees as someone was

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 3>really destroyed knees.

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 2>I asked Cherld about our theory, but criminals who only

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 2>steal from fat cats incorporations and why they choose and

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 2>never use violence or steal from their equals, you know,

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 2>or the vulnerable if you will. Now he had a

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 2>great view on this, so I thought you would like

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 2>a producer, David. He had that clip.

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you this, I'm very one hundred percent against

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 5>stealing from individuals so much so that might be because

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 5>I remember I had a coin collection when I was

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 5>maybe eight or nine years old, and my sister took

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 5>the hinges off the back of my safe and stole

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 5>some of my coins. She stole it, and I was like,

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:41.480
<v Speaker 5>how could you steal from your own family member, like

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 5>your own brother? And she was really young, like maybe

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 5>six at the time, so I can't blame her because

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 5>she didn't know better. But I've always been against stealing

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 5>from people like just so much. I just frowned upon it.

0:33:56.960 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 5>You want to steal, go to the store and steal

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 5>from a big names story. They can absorb the cost,

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 5>just sortain extent, rather than the family next stories worked

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 5>really hard their whole lives to have all this stuff

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:09.759
<v Speaker 5>saved their money, and then the neighbor goes in there

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:11.879
<v Speaker 5>and robs and while they're at work. That's not fair.

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:12.919
<v Speaker 5>I do not like that.

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:15.720
<v Speaker 3>This is yeah's amazing.

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:17.919
<v Speaker 2>I thought you'd love that guy. We could hear from

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 2>his mouth like boom, there's the yeah, I've saved the

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 2>most impressive crime, at least to me. That He's got

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of crimes that a lot of them are impressive,

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:28.920
<v Speaker 2>But the one that I want to tell you about

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 2>is an international gem thief heist. So take a break

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 2>and I will get all my papers in order, and

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you the rest in a second. Awesome, All right, Elizabeth,

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 2>we're back. Yes, so I said. The the most impressive

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 2>crime into my mind is the one I'm about to

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 2>tell you international gem thief.

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 3>This is like an escalation.

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh he's This is when he gets its like

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 2>James Bond level, like criming on. Right. So have you

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 2>ever heard of the c C Star of Austria. No,

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 2>I've never heard of this either. Do you know who

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 2>Empress c C is? I did not know. I had

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 2>to look all this.

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:22.839
<v Speaker 3>It sounds like my next door neighbor's little daughter, Empress CC.

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:24.799
<v Speaker 3>Oh really what she would make you call her?

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:25.239
<v Speaker 4>Like? Oh?

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 2>I thought her real name was Like, she's always.

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 3>Out there playing outside. Remember sure you are kid.

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:39.360
<v Speaker 2>So warm hearted? So this this Empress c she shares

0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:44.760
<v Speaker 2>your name. Oh yeah, Elizabeth, not Clyde, Elizabeth Amiie Eugenie,

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:47.240
<v Speaker 2>Empress of Austria and Queen to Hungary.

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 3>Good for her.

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this was all by via marriage to Emperor Franz

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 2>Joseph the first huh. Yeah. She ruled from April twenty first,

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 2>eighteen fifty four, until she was assassinated by an anarchist

0:35:57.560 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 2>in eighteen ninety eight.

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 3>That was a that was a common thing at this Yeah,

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 3>that was.

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a big cause of death with an anarchism. It

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:05.800
<v Speaker 2>was like heart attack, car accident.

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 3>Just wait, I'm gonna tell you about it.

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:10.319
<v Speaker 2>That car accident. Little too early for that burnette anyway, but.

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:14.359
<v Speaker 3>She was She was not only the proto anarchist cars.

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Diesel, like he's inventing a car running over his neighbors.

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 2>We had like three anyway, So the longest ruling monarch

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 2>of the nineteenth century, she was one of them. She

0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:24.320
<v Speaker 2>was also considered one of the most striking beautiful women

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:26.720
<v Speaker 2>of the nineteenth century. She was like she set standards

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 2>for certain things. I think you'd like her because she

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:32.399
<v Speaker 2>was fluent to multiple languages. She wrote poetry. She called

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:34.920
<v Speaker 2>herself Titiana, in honor of the fairy queen of Shakespeare.

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:36.759
<v Speaker 2>Like that was like her court name. But she was

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 2>not into court life. She kind of like thumbed her

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 2>nose at all. She suffered blue period what'll be called depression.

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 2>She was very much her own woman. She smoke cigarettes,

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 2>which was unheard of in the mid nineteenth century, like

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:49.320
<v Speaker 2>it was big in the nineteen twenty.

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:50.760
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah, that's true.

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:53.759
<v Speaker 2>So even more shocking, she had a tattoo and that

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 2>just like some normal like oh, I don't know, like

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 2>a rose. Yeah it rose exactly, I'm shrinking flower. She

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:03.239
<v Speaker 2>had an anchor tattoo on her arm. She said it

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:05.719
<v Speaker 2>marked her love of the sea and her affinity for

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 2>sailors eighteen.

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Did she like a Polynesian tattoo?

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 2>No, she just was aware that people have these, and

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 2>she's like, I want one, give me one. I want

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:17.800
<v Speaker 2>the anchor for He doesn't say, mom, Mom married me.

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 3>I love her.

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Also, she was a strident animal lover.

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:25.320
<v Speaker 3>Everything is better and better about that, right, I'm.

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Telling you she's like your patron saint Franctically. For the

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 2>holiday Saints Day, she was asked what gifts that you

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 2>know she would like, and she was like, oh yes

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:35.320
<v Speaker 2>in her answer very elizabeth. Yeah. She said that she

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 2>would like a a baby tiger and be a medallion,

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:41.360
<v Speaker 2>and above all, she said that she would like quote

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:44.280
<v Speaker 2>a fully equipped lunatic asylum would please me most.

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:47.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, No, I wouldn't want the baby tiger,

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:51.759
<v Speaker 3>you know how I am wildly but wanted still gift card.

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, fair enough.

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 3>I want to now I want a lunatic asylum.

0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Right, exactly, She was known for a compassionate treatment of

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 2>suffering from mental illness, so she wanted to be able

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 2>to give them greater care. Yes, that's what she means,

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 2>fully equipped. She met with doctors for everybody. Oh yeah,

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:10.759
<v Speaker 2>so she was also a lover of fine things. It's

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 2>in particular Empress CC. She loved gemstones her. That was

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:16.319
<v Speaker 2>like her bag basically, so the people, if they wanted

0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 2>to impress it, they're like, oh, hey, beautiful woman, please

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 2>wear my gemstones. Right, so we get the Star of CCI.

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 2>In nineteen ninety eight, to mark the one hundred year anniversary,

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 2>the centenary of Empress Elizabeth's death, the Star of CC

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 2>was put out on display at the Schombrone Palace of Vienna. Okay,

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 2>right now. Coincidentally, my man Gerald Blanchard happened to be

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 2>in Vienna at that time. He was there with his

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 2>then wife and father in law. They took a tour

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 2>of the palace. Oh, look at all the fineries, right,

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 2>and he goes and he spots the jewels.

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 3>I've actually seen the palace before. Really, word, I've been there.

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 2>You've been in this palace. I have look at you jetson. Well,

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:55.560
<v Speaker 2>give me so lokive me, dude, much like you wander

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 2>around in the palace. He's smit with all the fineries

0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 2>that you could probably better attest to than I. He's

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:03.920
<v Speaker 2>delighted by them. Is it really spectacular in there? Okay?

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 2>So he was just gobsmacked by all this. He decides

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 2>right then and there, I must steal the Star of CC. Yes,

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:13.280
<v Speaker 2>this message. It's one of those like National Treasure moments

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 2>or like Nicholas Cage. I'm going to steal the decoration.

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 3>Dependent of criminals on the show who see something and

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 3>it just speaks to them. I have to have it.

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:20.920
<v Speaker 2>He had that voice.

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:24.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so it's all that's.

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:26.319
<v Speaker 2>Do that one more.

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I'll be able to talk.

0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:34.279
<v Speaker 2>I want that little voice on my shoulder anyway. The

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 2>c C Star is also known as the Cocuert Diamond Pearl.

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 2>It is a ten pointed star. It is bejeweled with

0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:44.319
<v Speaker 2>diamonds on the stars arms or legs what you call it?

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:44.799
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:46.440
<v Speaker 2>They all fan out from the center and not the

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 2>center is a single enormous pearl right, very striking the

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:53.759
<v Speaker 2>museum staff. It took them a year to discover that

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:56.400
<v Speaker 2>the CC Star had been stolen wait what Yes, the

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:59.080
<v Speaker 2>reason why is the thief had left behind a replica

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:04.440
<v Speaker 2>one he was just at the gift shop. No, that's amazing.

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:06.440
<v Speaker 2>So Lizabeth, as I told you, we have the rare

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 2>opportunity to talk shop with a career criminals. So the

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:11.239
<v Speaker 2>man alleged to have stolen the Star of CCI is

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Gerald Blanchard, So I thought we'd ask him all about

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 2>the jewel heist. Dave, you mind the C C Star

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:21.919
<v Speaker 2>of Austria? Why that one? What about that one? Drew

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 2>your attention? You decided I'm just going to do this,

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 2>like was it a one off? Was it a new challenge?

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Was it you were there with you know, the wife

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 2>and the father in laws. You're like, I just need

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:31.320
<v Speaker 2>to have an escape.

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 5>Let me say this here in Canada, I played guilty

0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:39.160
<v Speaker 5>to possession of the CC Star. I didn't plead guilty

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:43.360
<v Speaker 5>to the theft because Austria wants to extradite me back

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 5>for the crime because it's international jewel. So I'm not

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 5>going to say I stole it. I'm going to say

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:50.440
<v Speaker 5>possession of him?

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Why you had, how you had? How you came into possession?

0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 5>But you caread in between the lines and somehow it

0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 5>ended up in my possession.

0:40:57.840 --> 0:40:58.320
<v Speaker 4>Was just that.

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 5>But I was at museum, and when I took a tour,

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 5>I saw beautiful pieces. For an example, I saw the

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:11.640
<v Speaker 5>crown with diamonds, I saw the cisy star, different medals

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 5>and different things, and it was just something that I was

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 5>just so fascinating and I knew it was one of

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 5>a kind. And I like challenges.

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Let's just say, my man, he does it as a lark.

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 3>He likes a challenge.

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's like, I gotta do that. I mean, like,

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:26.279
<v Speaker 2>it's just speaking to me. I got the Elizabeth voice

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:28.279
<v Speaker 2>in my ear. It's a challenge I got to meet.

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, God, this is better than the Omaha police.

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 2>I can beat this. So he decides, you know, Also

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:34.480
<v Speaker 2>he told me he was a way to keep his

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 2>mo fresh, you know, like the modus operandi. So he

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 2>wanted them to not be able to guess what crimes

0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:42.880
<v Speaker 2>he would do and also expand his possibilities. So because

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 2>he keeps the cops guessing, and also he kept me guessing,

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:46.880
<v Speaker 2>I had to know more Elizabeth. So I was like,

0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, Elizabeth, maybe looking for a new retirement plan.

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:52.279
<v Speaker 2>Maybe she maybe perhaps bank robbery is right for her,

0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:54.879
<v Speaker 2>so I asked him for more information for you and

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:57.880
<v Speaker 2>for me. But since we had I said, there's this

0:41:57.960 --> 0:42:00.359
<v Speaker 2>rare opportunity to talk to dude himself here how it

0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 2>is from the inside. I asked Gerald Blanchard for a

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 2>personal favor because I was like, all giddy and confused.

0:42:05.719 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know, I'm asking you all the

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:10.799
<v Speaker 2>wrong questions. You should just tell me the thing. What's

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 2>it like on the inside. And he was kind enough

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:14.800
<v Speaker 2>to oblige me. He was like, oh, okay, I'll tell you.

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:16.400
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, all right, well, let me just

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 2>turn the mic over to him.

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 5>You, Elizabeth, close your eyes and picture it, imagining jumping

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:24.799
<v Speaker 5>out of an air plane into the darkness and you

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:29.040
<v Speaker 5>see the street lights so far down, and you see

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 5>the rooftop of the castle, and you're hoping you would

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 5>land perfectly. And as you land, you hit so hard

0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:39.120
<v Speaker 5>you could feel you're capable. You felt like it shattered

0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 5>as you're sliding down the edge of the roof, and

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 5>luckily you're slamming on your body up against the column

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:45.920
<v Speaker 5>so you don't fall off the edge of the roof.

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 5>That there is a thrill in itself, the adrenaline overseats

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:53.240
<v Speaker 5>the pain that you feel after you land on the roof.

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 5>You would take your rope and you would wrap your

0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 5>rope around the column as a big you so as

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 5>you tie to your body, you could lower yourself down

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:04.600
<v Speaker 5>to the roof and then the window that was left

0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:07.439
<v Speaker 5>open the day before, you push open the window, pull

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:11.320
<v Speaker 5>the rope back up. Now you're inside of the museum

0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 5>and you have the museum to yourself. It's easy pickings.

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:18.359
<v Speaker 5>All you can hear is your heartbeat. But as long

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:21.960
<v Speaker 5>as you stay quiet and your body's under control, and

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:24.440
<v Speaker 5>the museum all you see is like the emergency lights

0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 5>are basically glowing and lighting up, and the only thing

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 5>you can see is like the sparkles of the diamond

0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:34.880
<v Speaker 5>or in another part of the museum there was the

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 5>crown with the diamonds, and that was very challenging and

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:45.840
<v Speaker 5>interesting to have that feeling that at any moment you

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:49.040
<v Speaker 5>could be caught if somebody walks in, because obviously there's

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 5>armored guards walking around everywhere. When you leave, you leave

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:54.879
<v Speaker 5>the exact same way you take the rope, You wrap

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:58.680
<v Speaker 5>it around an existing item inside the museum, and you

0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:01.360
<v Speaker 5>let go of the rope. You lower yourself hold the

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:04.799
<v Speaker 5>other rope down, gather up all your items, wrote them

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:07.719
<v Speaker 5>in the dumpster, and you run her way into the

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:10.880
<v Speaker 5>darkness of night, hopefully never to be seen again.

0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Boom, did you picture it?

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 3>That was the best picture it ever.

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Not gonna take that personally, but isn't it? It was

0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 2>so also just a point of note, Dave.

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 5>And that's all hypothetical story time.

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:28.360
<v Speaker 2>All hypothetical, alleged and imagine.

0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:30.440
<v Speaker 3>Exactly all right, Oh sure, yeah.

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:32.240
<v Speaker 2>I got to put that in there for legal reasons,

0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 2>of course. So we got a guided to her from

0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:37.439
<v Speaker 2>the man himself allegend allegen. Now, remember how I told

0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:39.800
<v Speaker 2>you earlier that Gerald broke one of the cardinal rules

0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 2>of ridiculous crime. Yeah, he left a slew of evidence

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 2>he filmed us up doing crimes. Yeah, I had to

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:47.040
<v Speaker 2>know why, so I asked him about that. Oh yeah,

0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:49.560
<v Speaker 2>why did you break crime rule number one and decide

0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:51.320
<v Speaker 2>to record so much stuff on camera?

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:54.880
<v Speaker 5>The reason why is because when you record stuff, you

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 5>can go back and learn what you've done and how

0:44:57.320 --> 0:45:01.439
<v Speaker 5>you could do things differently and make things better. Like yeah,

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 5>when I was younger, me shoplifting from stores when I

0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:08.800
<v Speaker 5>was like fifteen, recording it so what it's shoplifting, Nothing's

0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 5>going to happen. But I should have recorded with a

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 5>gold pro when I did the ATMs, Like can you

0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:17.000
<v Speaker 5>imagine me like running to the ATM room, opening up

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:19.720
<v Speaker 5>each machine, grabbing the money, and then running out and

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 5>having to documented. I should have hit it, But I

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:24.439
<v Speaker 5>never had the thought that I'm going to get caught

0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:26.879
<v Speaker 5>because I thought I had it really well planned out.

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:32.160
<v Speaker 2>So I'm agog I thought he might be what he's

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:34.800
<v Speaker 2>talking about with the ATMs. It's one of his bank robberies.

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 2>He went into in a Canadian bank, and while I

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 2>was being built, he put in all these security and

0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:43.880
<v Speaker 2>surveillance equipment, and then once it was about to be opened,

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 2>then he strikes the night before it's gonna be opened,

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:49.160
<v Speaker 2>and he empties all the ATM machines that they have

0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:52.279
<v Speaker 2>filled up with fresh cash. Oh my, And so we

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:54.640
<v Speaker 2>talked about the ATM room. He's talking about a brand

0:45:54.640 --> 0:45:56.239
<v Speaker 2>new ATM and being in the little room on the

0:45:56.280 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 2>backside obviously where they load the machines and just tearing

0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:01.600
<v Speaker 2>open all those drawers and that seeing all that cash

0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 2>and the.

0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 3>Idea that he wants to be able to like it's

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:07.320
<v Speaker 3>like those football films where they watch back.

0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Over places totally wants to watch films.

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:12.200
<v Speaker 3>I could, I could have gone right on that. Or

0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:14.520
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of also like an arsonist who goes back

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 3>and watches and gets his jollies off.

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:17.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I thought about that. I like more of

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 2>the idea that he's like John Madden with the telestrap here.

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:24.719
<v Speaker 2>I could have come into the agypt exactly so as

0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:27.400
<v Speaker 2>I told you he was. He got in the bank robbery.

0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:31.640
<v Speaker 2>He has a really big job the CIBC bank in Winnipeg, Canada,

0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:34.319
<v Speaker 2>that one eventually would cost him his freedom right. But

0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:35.840
<v Speaker 2>to learn about that when you have to watch the

0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:37.560
<v Speaker 2>doc because I don't want to tell all the stories,

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:39.439
<v Speaker 2>but if you do, want to hear about how he's caught,

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:41.319
<v Speaker 2>how he pulled off his biggest heightst jobs and all

0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:43.879
<v Speaker 2>of that, and then his life is a real life,

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:46.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, full hero outlaw. Do check The Jewel Thief.

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 2>It's streaming now. I enjoyed it.

0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:48.839
<v Speaker 3>I'll watch it.

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:50.720
<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth. You know how you like to sleep.

0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:53.440
<v Speaker 3>God, I love to sleep, right, yeah, yeah, you know,

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 3>like you.

0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Know who loves a good night's sleep almost as much

0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:59.680
<v Speaker 2>as you do. Cats good call a person on the run.

0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, because it's few and far.

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:03.400
<v Speaker 2>They never get a good night's sleep, right, and it

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:04.839
<v Speaker 2>starts to catch up to them and they get all

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, you want to see someone who's grouchy hang

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 2>out with someone who's on the run. Sure, right, So

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Gerald discovered the key to a good night's rest. You

0:47:11.440 --> 0:47:15.640
<v Speaker 2>want to know what it is. What's telling the truth? Apparently,

0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:19.839
<v Speaker 2>and melowtonin no, no, that's you're seeing. Yeah, So now

0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:21.759
<v Speaker 2>his recipe is slightly different. His was a night in

0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:24.759
<v Speaker 2>jail and then telling the truth. So at least that

0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 2>first night in jail was a good night sleep. I

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:28.360
<v Speaker 2>don't know about the ones after that, but that first

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:30.640
<v Speaker 2>night was like awesome. So he'd been on the run

0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:33.040
<v Speaker 2>for years at that point, and uh, how was it

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:35.680
<v Speaker 2>for Gerald once he finally was busted and his head

0:47:35.760 --> 0:47:38.160
<v Speaker 2>hit that county issued pillow. Well, we can take it

0:47:38.200 --> 0:47:38.959
<v Speaker 2>from him, Dave.

0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:41.640
<v Speaker 5>The best night was the first night I slept in

0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:44.719
<v Speaker 5>jail like I was caught. I was relieved, I didn't

0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 5>have to worry about anything else, and it was the

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:48.200
<v Speaker 5>best sleep of my life.

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:50.279
<v Speaker 2>And we hear this over and over again, how good

0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:53.400
<v Speaker 2>it feels to be caught. Were you surprised by that relief.

0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:57.040
<v Speaker 5>Actually, I was like, had I known, I probably would

0:47:57.040 --> 0:47:59.280
<v Speaker 5>have done things a lot differently. I just didn't realize.

0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:01.920
<v Speaker 5>Like I said to the police, like nine to ten

0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:02.840
<v Speaker 5>years to catch me.

0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:04.640
<v Speaker 2>WHOA right?

0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Nine to ten years.

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's on the run for nine to ten years.

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:10.800
<v Speaker 2>There's a whole thing. I mean, that's stressful. Oh my god,

0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:12.719
<v Speaker 2>it's crazier than that, because as I told you, he

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:14.920
<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, very anti violence, doesn't and he

0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:17.360
<v Speaker 2>also doesn't want to hurt anybody. He eventually gets involved

0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 2>with real criminals and then international criminals, credit card fraud.

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Then there's allegations he's involved with a terrorist mastermind and

0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:25.759
<v Speaker 2>that's where the credit card fraud is funding. And this

0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:28.440
<v Speaker 2>is like post nine to eleven, two thousand and four eras,

0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:30.880
<v Speaker 2>So it's like real dicey to be involved with like

0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:33.520
<v Speaker 2>terrorists find out. So he finds like the world of

0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:36.279
<v Speaker 2>crime swallows him up like the sea and drags him

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:37.600
<v Speaker 2>out into the drowning.

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:40.440
<v Speaker 3>Do you think it must be hard to stay nonviolent

0:48:40.600 --> 0:48:43.359
<v Speaker 3>and stay like not targeting people.

0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:44.920
<v Speaker 2>You don't want to do the violence, and if you

0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:47.000
<v Speaker 2>want to protect what you have and also protect yourself

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:49.520
<v Speaker 2>against other criminals you're doing business with, who will take

0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:52.240
<v Speaker 2>from you what you have if you have to defend

0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:54.960
<v Speaker 2>yourself or defend yourself with violence. Eventually you realize I'm

0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:56.600
<v Speaker 2>in a room with all criminals and they will if

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't act tough and it You're like, oh, this

0:48:58.680 --> 0:49:00.719
<v Speaker 2>is not the best growth plan. Like I'm gonna have

0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:01.960
<v Speaker 2>to do this more and more. I'm had to get

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 2>other guys with guns to sit next to me and

0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:05.759
<v Speaker 2>protect my stuff. If I get more stuff, I'm gonna

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:07.920
<v Speaker 2>need more guys with guns. It's just like this is

0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:10.360
<v Speaker 2>so that's why you get out of crime, if you

0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:14.040
<v Speaker 2>really get deep into it. Right anyway, lesson over, what's

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:15.160
<v Speaker 2>our ridiculous takeaway?

0:49:15.880 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 3>Wow, I don't know. I mean I think that he's

0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:26.239
<v Speaker 3>a good cautionary tale that like in terms of like

0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:29.160
<v Speaker 3>we were just talking about getting swallowed up into larger things.

0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:31.359
<v Speaker 3>So he had like a I don't want to say

0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:34.320
<v Speaker 3>a noble mission because he was breaking the law totally,

0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:37.160
<v Speaker 3>but it's same to But it wasn't damaging to the

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:38.359
<v Speaker 3>everyday person.

0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:40.960
<v Speaker 2>No, exactly, he was His victims were not such that

0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:44.000
<v Speaker 2>their lives were ruined. He was not you know, causing

0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:46.480
<v Speaker 2>funerals he was not doing the stuff it's usually the

0:49:46.640 --> 0:49:47.480
<v Speaker 2>costly aspect and.

0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:49.440
<v Speaker 3>Just breaking people because he came from a family that

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:52.160
<v Speaker 3>had I mean divorce, but you had to know what

0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:53.279
<v Speaker 3>it's like to just have nothing.

0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 2>He'd been the victim of that, so this time he

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:55.920
<v Speaker 2>thought so.

0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:58.280
<v Speaker 3>But I think it's interesting that he and the idea

0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:00.200
<v Speaker 3>that your first good night of sleep is the one

0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:00.960
<v Speaker 3>in jail.

0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:03.279
<v Speaker 2>After ten years or almost, you know.

0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:05.799
<v Speaker 3>And I also, my other ridiculous takeaway is apparently like

0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:09.680
<v Speaker 3>cool things like Hulu and all this other stuff contacts.

0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:12.120
<v Speaker 2>You open your emails. That's all I got to say.

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:13.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess.

0:50:14.320 --> 0:50:18.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, my ridiculous takeaway, once again, thank you for asking, Elizabeth,

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:21.720
<v Speaker 2>is not only open your emails. But my other one

0:50:21.920 --> 0:50:27.040
<v Speaker 2>is that I find it really fascinating how he kind

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<v Speaker 2>of comes around, because now he is a security consultant,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so he's like what we often see. He

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<v Speaker 2>becomes like the white hat happer. He's like, I'll teach

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<v Speaker 2>you how to not have your sheep you take, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the wolf who will protect you. But he still

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<v Speaker 2>has like a not a disregard, but a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>his attitudes haven't changed. He just realized that crime doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>pay in the way that he wants, but he hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>changed his mind about like, they're still robbing you too.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to come around like legally exactly. I like that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's trying to make his way in a

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<v Speaker 2>world where he's I has to watch other people get

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<v Speaker 2>away with crime and he's like, nope, I can't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I find that really fascinating because he's so smart

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like and he also his old desire to

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<v Speaker 2>get back he's right now having to live like where

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<v Speaker 2>he's muting himself. Yeah, so he's he's like another I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying this is some zent maaster, but I thought

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<v Speaker 2>that was really interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and I just I'm so appreciative that he sat

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<v Speaker 3>down to talk to you about that totally.

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<v Speaker 2>It was great, So thank you, Gerald, I had a

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<v Speaker 2>great time. And uh, anytime you want to come back,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're always welcome, friend of the show, and

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's right, and.

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