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Speaker 1: We want to share a good friend's podcast with you

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Speaker 1: this week, Enjoy the Truth with Lisa Booth in the

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Speaker 1: Clay and Buck podcast Network. The FBI has come under

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Speaker 1: fire after a document leaked showing that the bureau was

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Speaker 1: warning that radical traditionalist Catholics pose an extremist threat. Now,

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Speaker 1: the FBI originally tried to downplay this, saying was specific

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Speaker 1: to the FBI's Richmond Division. Turns out that was a lie.

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Speaker 1: It's bigger than that the FBI was encouraging the spying

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Speaker 1: of Catholics in their own churches. So we'll talk to

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Speaker 1: the organization suing the FBI. That organization is Catholic Vote.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to their national political director, Logan Church, about

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Speaker 1: that lawsuit. What you should know, what they're hoping to accomplish.

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Speaker 1: And also how did Joe Biden, who's supposed to be

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Speaker 1: the second Catholic president, why is his administration targeting Catholics

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Speaker 1: to the degree that they are. We're going to get

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Speaker 1: into all that with Logan Church. Stay with us. Logan,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for coming on the show. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you making the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of wild because Joe Biden is the

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Speaker 1: second Catholic to be President of the United States, yet

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Speaker 1: his administration has been targeting Catholics. Why do you think

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Speaker 1: that is?

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Speaker 3: You know, at the end of the day, I think

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Speaker 3: that the Catholic Church has been one of the sole

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Speaker 3: proprietors of the traditionalist movement, and so the far left

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Speaker 3: has felt threatened by the Catholic Church for quite some time.

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Speaker 3: And whether that's we've seen attacks through the churches themselves

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Speaker 3: or through the school system.

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Speaker 2: And so attacks on the Catholic.

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Speaker 3: Church isn't a new thing, and it's especially not a

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Speaker 3: new thing to have politicians who claim to be Catholic

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Speaker 3: to gather votes but don't particularly vote or behave in

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Speaker 3: alignment with the Catholic Church. So it's unfortunate, but it's

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Speaker 3: also unfortunately not shocking to groups like Catholic vote.

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Speaker 1: You know, I know you say it's not a new thing,

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Speaker 1: but have we seen it to this degree? I mean,

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Speaker 1: we all saw that FBI memo specifically targeting Catholics and

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Speaker 1: also introducing the idea of surveilling and spying on Catholics

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Speaker 1: in their own churches. I mean, have we seen that?

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Speaker 3: No, I mean not that we know of of course,

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Speaker 3: this all started with the original leaked memo where Christopher

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Speaker 3: Ray said under oath that it was isolated to the

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Speaker 3: Richmond office and it wasn't a big deal and it

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Speaker 3: was all being shut down. And then we find out

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Speaker 3: as things start to come out, we find out that

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Speaker 3: it wasn't isolated to Richmond, and in fact, Richmond was

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Speaker 3: working with several other offices to coordinate efforts to infiltrate

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Speaker 3: the Catholic Church and to better understand as they called

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Speaker 3: radical traditionalist Catholics. And the truth is they're getting their

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Speaker 3: information from a biased and partisan group, the Southern Poverty

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Speaker 3: Law Center, which has Catholics traditional Catholics category as radical

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Speaker 3: traditionalist Catholics, and they have them on a list with

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Speaker 3: the KKK and neo Nazis. So with that being the

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Speaker 3: FBI's information, it's no wonder that they're coming after Catholics

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Speaker 3: so hard. But the truth is, throughout the entire Biden administration,

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Speaker 3: his DOJ, and his FBI have continued to just demonstrate

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Speaker 3: a disgusting pattern of contempt against you know, equal justice

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Speaker 3: under the law. And we saw that with pro life activists,

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Speaker 3: We've seen that with conservatives in general, with parents at

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Speaker 3: school board meetings. Now with Catholics trying to just attend mass.

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Speaker 1: You know, how have Catholics responded to this so far?

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Speaker 3: I mean there's an uproar amongst Catholics, even Catholics who

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Speaker 3: don't attend Latin Mass. Not a large percentage of Catholics

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Speaker 3: actually attend a Latin Mass, but that being said, everyone

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Speaker 3: I even know Catholics who attend an English Mass or

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Speaker 3: the truth is, if they're going after, as they say,

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Speaker 3: traditional radical Catholics, now you know who's next and what

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Speaker 3: are they going to do next? And what are they

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Speaker 3: doing that we don't even know about?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's the question, right because they were

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Speaker 1: what else is going on behind the scenes that we

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Speaker 1: don't know about. You know, how has Congress responded so far?

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like Catholics are getting enough support from

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Speaker 2: Actually? I do.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm really grateful to see the politicians that

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Speaker 3: now Senator Rubio and the other senators that wrote this

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Speaker 1: You know and talk about this letter. You had talked

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Speaker 1: what does it say? What's the intended purpose behind it?

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Speaker 1: To get a little bit that Yeah, So.

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Speaker 3: Ultimately, what they were trying to do is inquire. They

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Speaker 3: wrote the letter to the FBI Director, Christopher Ray, and

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Speaker 3: they were just inquiring about the underlying process behind this

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Speaker 3: whole controversial issue of targeting Catholics. And one of the

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Speaker 3: things that they highlighted is the mission of the FBI,

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Speaker 3: and they quoted it, it's to protect the American people

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Speaker 3: and to uphold the Constitution of the United States. And ultimately,

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Speaker 3: this memorandum and the process that's been going on against

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Speaker 3: upholding the Constitution. And they were just pointing out the

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Speaker 3: fact that the FBI it's not it doesn't exist to

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Speaker 3: know why are they doing what they're doing and what's

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Speaker 3: the purpose.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if these were eight members of the Senate

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Speaker 1: Select Committee on Intelligence, we've got Republicans Senator Mark or Rubio,

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Speaker 1: and Jerry Moran, James Lankford and Mike Rounds All wrote

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Speaker 1: what you just pointed out in this letter. Do you

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Speaker 1: feel like we've gotten any answers from Christopher Ray or

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Speaker 1: you know, how that even happened from to begin with.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean ultimately, you know, Catholic Vote's been in

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Speaker 3: a lawsuit with the FBI since this all started, since

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Speaker 3: the original leak, and the truth is even on our front.

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Speaker 3: It's like this run around game where they're just playing

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Speaker 3: the system that they wrote, and it's really difficult because

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Speaker 3: groups like Catholic Vote and just the American people, you know,

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Speaker 3: we just want transparency, we want the truth, and there's

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Speaker 3: obviously more to this story than than they're sharing, because

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Speaker 3: why else are they keeping the information so secretive, and

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Speaker 3: so I think they're hoping if it's a long drawn

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Speaker 1: And so Catholic vote. You guys had filed this lawsuit

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Speaker 1: in April, I believe, a FOIA request trying to get

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Speaker 3: Well, when this all started, I think it's hard to

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Speaker 3: just looking for the truth. And when this all started

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Speaker 3: and it was saying that this was just the Richmond office,

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Speaker 3: larger operation which turned out to be the case, And

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Speaker 3: so now is this operation is continuing. We just want

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Speaker 3: to know how extensive is this and what exactly are

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Speaker 3: they doing when they're training their members to infiltrate the

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Speaker 3: Catholic Church. What does that look like and what exactly

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Speaker 3: are we up against? Because Catholics deserve to know how

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Speaker 3: they're being targeted by the FBI specifically.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then this original memo, which you know, of

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Speaker 1: course they said it was just the FBI Richmond Division

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Speaker 1: that we found out. It's actually bigger than that, you know,

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Speaker 1: they lied to us. But so in the memo, it

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Speaker 1: it says that the ideology can include adherence to anti Semitic,

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Speaker 3: I mean talk about just like a sweeping generalization that's

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Speaker 3: just a straight up lie. It's really unfortunate as a

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Speaker 3: Those apparently are two things. Those are two red flags

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Speaker 3: original memo. It is it's offensive and it's unfortunate to

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Speaker 2: They believe is right.

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Speaker 3: And the truth is, you know, this goes even farther.

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Speaker 3: And this it's so upsetting because in there have been

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Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty attacks against Catholic churches since twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Nearly two hundred of those have been since the Dabs leak,

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 3: There's no like, there's no movement from the FBI as

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Speaker 2: That's fine. There's such a double standard here for what's

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Speaker 1: And what kind of attacks are we talking about? Are

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Speaker 1: there any kind of specifics that you can give just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we're talking massive vandalism. We're talking anywhere

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Speaker 1: It's terrible. And then not to mention the fact we've

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Speaker 1: but you know, they're going after him, arrested him in

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Speaker 1: front of his children. He's a pro life Catholic who

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Speaker 3: And then to do that with you know, for him

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Speaker 2: But the truth is, the FBI feels like they can.

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Speaker 3: Get away with anything. The federal government feels like they

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Speaker 3: the day, you know, people need to start reminding them

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Speaker 1: And there's three other people recently I'm not sure if

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Speaker 3: Right, absolutely, I agree with one hundred percent. And it's

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Speaker 1: Me it does feel like we're facing sort of a

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Speaker 2: To a preference. At at what point? You know, I

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Speaker 3: And so we're really excited going into twenty twenty four

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Speaker 3: So, uh, A big idea behind Catholic vote is, you know,

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Speaker 1: I totally agree. Logan Church, thanks so much for taking

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