Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to Malie's Bookshelf, bringing a world together
Speaker 1: with books.
Speaker 2: Culture and community.
Speaker 1: Hi, my name is Malik, your host a Malise's Bookshelf. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of speechless. I don't know about you, because
Speaker 1: the great divide is upon us in this country. I
Speaker 1: had to speak on the attempted assassination of president, former
Speaker 1: President Donald J.
Speaker 2: Trump. Everybody's talking about it.
Speaker 1: It's on every channel, so I had to talk about
Speaker 1: this great divide.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Wow, wow, I can't believe what I just witnessed today
Speaker 1: July thirteenth, twenty twenty four, that the hatred and the
Speaker 1: great divide in America over political views has led to
Speaker 1: the attempted sassination of a former president.
Speaker 2: Donald J.
Speaker 1: Trump was just shot at an attempted sassination centimeters from
Speaker 1: a bullet being shot in the head. It pierced his
Speaker 1: ear and created blood on his face and cheek as
Speaker 1: he dropped to the floor, and his Secret Service jumped
Speaker 1: all over him to cover him as they pinned Donald
Speaker 1: Trump down. I guess the Secret Service and other counter
Speaker 1: agencies shot the shooter dead on top of a roof
Speaker 1: two hundred to three hundred meters away from where Trump
Speaker 1: was hosting a riley in Butler, Pennsylvania. This was most striking.
Speaker 1: It's on every channel, it's on every radio station, it's
Speaker 1: all over social media. This is his history and everyone
Speaker 1: is talking about it. What has happened in this nation
Speaker 1: that a person would want to assassinate a former president
Speaker 1: because of policy difference, because you view certain policies different,
Speaker 1: have a different belief system in which you will want
Speaker 1: to see a former president and the leading candidate of
Speaker 1: the Republican Party assassinated because you don't think you can
Speaker 1: beat him at the polls, or you think he's a
Speaker 1: threat to democracy. When the president doesn't even run the country,
Speaker 1: he's just a spokesperson. There are forces in this world
Speaker 1: that are far more powerful than the president of the
Speaker 1: United States. The president is a spokesman for the rich
Speaker 1: and the elite, and he answers to a lot of
Speaker 1: their policies. If you think a corporation or a wealthy
Speaker 1: family is going to donate millions and millions of dollars
Speaker 1: to a presidential campaign and don't expect something in return,
Speaker 1: I don't know what alternate world you live in. Most
Speaker 1: people might get twenty dollars, thirty dollars or whatever to
Speaker 1: a politician. But what about these families and organizations to
Speaker 1: give millions to one candidate and you think that they
Speaker 1: don't have influence once you take that money. So for
Speaker 1: someone to want to assassinate the president as if the
Speaker 1: president solely runs this country when he is surrounded with
Speaker 1: advisors in top elite officials to aid him in the
Speaker 1: policies and the decisions. But outside of that, you're dealing
Speaker 1: with lobbyists who have tremendous influence on the political process
Speaker 1: and on policy. But to think that someone that just
Speaker 1: gives you ten million, fifty million, one hundred million to
Speaker 1: run your campaign so that you can win, and you
Speaker 1: think that they don't have ideological and political policies that
Speaker 1: they want implemented.
Speaker 2: Let's get will.
Speaker 1: So the fact that both parties, a Democrat and Republicans
Speaker 1: are saying some of the most outrageous things against each
Speaker 1: other creates a climate and an environment where someone could
Speaker 1: be incited to assassinate and murder a political rival.
Speaker 2: And that's what is taking place.
Speaker 1: On July thirteenth, an attempted assassination on Donald J. Trump,
Speaker 1: the former president, the forty fifth president of the United States,
Speaker 1: how outrageous of a nation where you can't have differences
Speaker 1: in running for a political office the president of the
Speaker 1: United States and be threatened because of your views and
Speaker 1: your part. Let me say this, it doesn't matter who
Speaker 1: wins the election. The reality is that America is not
Speaker 1: going away. America is not going to be destroyed. America
Speaker 1: is an institution, and no matter what president sits in
Speaker 1: that seat is not gonna change the fact that America
Speaker 1: is still gonna continue. The idea that if one of
Speaker 1: them win, the threat to democracy it ends. This is
Speaker 1: insane to even think that that would be the case.
Speaker 1: You in there four years and you're out. Now someone
Speaker 1: else come in, got their views, four years.
Speaker 2: Later they out.
Speaker 1: But to think that you can vote for whom you want.
Speaker 1: But the reality is to assassinate arrival because you feel
Speaker 1: that he's threatening. Of him winning in America overnight, it's
Speaker 1: just going to be destroyed because of a few policy changes.
Speaker 1: Black people in America have survived slavery. And if you
Speaker 1: think that if Trump winning or Biden winning is going
Speaker 1: to disrupt or stop the opportunity to be successful in America,
Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you that you're wrong in that
Speaker 1: type of thinking. We have survived slavery, we have survival pression,
Speaker 1: we have survived racism and discrimination and all kinds of
Speaker 1: acts of uninjustice. So the idea that somebody who becomes
Speaker 1: president all of a sudden is going to stop our
Speaker 1: ability to be successful in winning America when we have
Speaker 1: survived and been resilient and been successful despite slavery, despite racism,
Speaker 1: despite all of the atrocities that have happened in to us.
Speaker 1: We can only stop ourselves, and no president can stop
Speaker 1: us if we're willing to do what it takes to
Speaker 1: continue on the path of success. But let me tell
Speaker 1: you that requires change because a lot of things in
Speaker 1: our community I'm talking about the black community is not cope, esthetic,
Speaker 1: is not appropriate, is not good for our community, is
Speaker 1: not good for the culture, and it's not good for
Speaker 1: us as a people. But yet anyone that sits in
Speaker 1: that seat of president has nothing to do with teenage presidency, obesity,
Speaker 1: poor health, black on black crime, black on black murder, addiction, alcohol, cocaine, crack,
Speaker 1: all other kind of ulicit drugs that take place in
Speaker 1: our community. I'm just saying. The point here is that
Speaker 1: we got a lot of problems in our communities and
Speaker 1: whoever becomes president is not going to solve those problems.
Speaker 1: We gotta solve those problems. But that's another issue for
Speaker 1: another time. But today, the attempted assassination of former President
Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump is a sign of a very dangerous
Speaker 1: time in America where words are being used to incite
Speaker 1: violence and influence people to do acts of unthinkable. This
Speaker 1: has to stop where we have to get back to
Speaker 1: the conversation and we don't have to degree, but we
Speaker 1: can debate and we can discuss our differences. It's a
Speaker 1: shame that you can't even sit down at a table
Speaker 1: with your own family and discuss politics and religion without
Speaker 1: an argument and a fight, because we've become so strong
Speaker 1: in our opinions that it becomes an argument with anger
Speaker 1: and hateful passion and incredibly defensive. So in this country,
Speaker 1: we need to calm down and get to a point
Speaker 1: where we can talk our differences and be able to
Speaker 1: unite on our differences back another person's belief in ideology.
Speaker 2: We never are.
Speaker 1: Going to see things one hundred but I know one thing,
Speaker 1: it's our differences that have caused the changes in America
Speaker 1: for the better that never would have been a Martin
Speaker 1: Luther King or Malcolm X or any other activist or
Speaker 1: a person who devoted their life for change for the better.
Speaker 1: Violence is not the answer. Violence will not solve our differences.
Speaker 1: Violence is not the key for lasting change.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying if someone attacked you that you don't
Speaker 1: defend yourself, because you got a right to defend yourself.
Speaker 1: You have a pursuit of liberty in life. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that you turn the other cheek out somebody is
Speaker 1: to kill you and murder you. What I'm saying is
Speaker 1: just to go out and premeditate to kill someone when
Speaker 1: you can use the power of your words to change.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Now, if you're attacked, fight with those who fight with
Speaker 1: you and defend yourself, but.
Speaker 2: Don't be the aggressor.
Speaker 1: I'm at Belief Books, as I do always, I randomly
Speaker 1: ask customers their thoughts about a particular subject, and yesterday
Speaker 1: there could be no other subject that's more important than
Speaker 1: the attempted assassination of Donald J.
Speaker 2: Trump.
Speaker 1: I want to ask a customer randomly her thoughts about
Speaker 1: this attempting assassination.
Speaker 2: Half an inch later, it would have been over. It
Speaker 2: would have been over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what's your thoughts about the great divibe? People
Speaker 1: seem to want to take things to the extreme and
Speaker 1: use violence in an effort to determine the outcome of
Speaker 1: the upcoming election. If the justice system did its job,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't be having this problem.
Speaker 2: Guilty guilty?
Speaker 1: So you think that if their justice system would have
Speaker 1: imprisoned the leading Republican camp Well, actually, he's about to
Speaker 1: take the anomination of the Republican Party's upcoming week that
Speaker 1: the Justice Department should have jailed him, imprisoned him since
Speaker 1: they convicted him in the hush money case they called.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think that he should have been jail So
Speaker 2: you believe he's absolutely guilty. I believe he's guilty. I
Speaker 2: don't know about absolutely because I didn't have anything to
Speaker 2: do with it.
Speaker 1: Better, do you think that you do believe he's guilty?
Speaker 1: But do you think what happened yesterday was justified?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: Like I said, if he had been in prison, we
Speaker 4: wouldn't have had to worry about that.
Speaker 2: You don't advocate violence, No, No, that's never the answer.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, thank you, thank you for your thoughts.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I'm gonna roll up on these other
Speaker 1: two this in the store now, and I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: them their thoughts, like, Hey, hey, how y'all doing.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Malik Books. I just had a brief question.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I got a podcast called Malice's Bookshelf, bringing the world
Speaker 1: together with books, culture and community.
Speaker 2: But right now I'm doing it.
Speaker 1: I'm doing a episode on the Great Divide, the attempting
Speaker 1: assassination of Donald J.
Speaker 2: Chump.
Speaker 1: I just want to get your thoughts.
Speaker 4: I'm the wrong one to ask because I think it
Speaker 4: was all a set up and I think it was
Speaker 4: not real. It was fake, because what secret service is
Speaker 4: gonna allow the attempted a target of an assassinate assassination
Speaker 4: to jump up and do a photo op fist picture.
Speaker 4: So I just don't I don't believe nothing he does nothing.
Speaker 4: Everything he does is stage. Everything he does is for
Speaker 4: his benefit.
Speaker 1: Do you think that he caused the death and the
Speaker 1: injury of two other people?
Speaker 4: Yes, I think that they would be like, Okay, that's
Speaker 4: just I mean, they probably told a guy not to
Speaker 4: shoot at anybody, but you know, bull, it's gonna go
Speaker 4: where they go, and the people got collateral damage and
Speaker 4: they okay with that?
Speaker 1: Wow, And you think he orchestrated in line with the
Speaker 1: Secret Service.
Speaker 4: I think that there was some secret service there, and
Speaker 4: then the other ones were not real secret service, probably
Speaker 4: his hired bodyguards or whatever. And yes, yes, I believe
Speaker 4: it all.
Speaker 2: I believe. So this wasn't a lone wolf.
Speaker 4: I believe they were all in on it. I was
Speaker 4: a lone wolf, probably shooter, but he wasn't.
Speaker 1: He was working with Trump hired this person or somebody
Speaker 1: around him, hired this person who knew.
Speaker 2: He was going to go on on the suicide mission.
Speaker 4: Maybe we don't know, but but I definitely I'm but
Speaker 4: I definitely don't think it was just a real assassination. No,
Speaker 4: I do not think so.
Speaker 1: Even when two when one person died, two people died,
Speaker 1: the shooter and an attendee and too seriously critically injured.
Speaker 1: That ye, yes, I still don't think.
Speaker 2: You Come on, brother, I know you got some thought.
Speaker 2: I know you got some thought.
Speaker 1: You want to keep it to yourself because you don't
Speaker 1: want to be in disagreement with your wife. I love
Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts on that. I love to hear
Speaker 1: your thoughts. Hey, hey, you know you.
Speaker 2: Can't turn the channel without hearing this.
Speaker 1: You can't turn the radio station walk them talking about it,
Speaker 1: and you can't go on social media without them talking
Speaker 1: about this.
Speaker 2: This is you know is.
Speaker 4: And I think that's what you wanted. Everybody's talking about
Speaker 4: Biden and Biden and Biden by he goes, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: turn it back on me.
Speaker 2: There. You so you really.
Speaker 1: Think Trump is that malicious that he would plot to
Speaker 1: get shot at and.
Speaker 4: Is graising somebody's ears his head. It would have been
Speaker 4: blown off. We you missed, no, he ain't no, miss
Speaker 4: he ain't no, missed, ain't no missed.
Speaker 2: The twenty you.
Speaker 4: Fake blood.
Speaker 2: Well I can assume by your statement that you're definitely
Speaker 2: not a fan of Donald J.
Speaker 4: Trump, not at all.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Thank you God, thank you for
Speaker 2: visiting Elik Books.
Speaker 1: I'm just going around for my podcast asking my cut.
Speaker 1: I'm the owner of Elik and I just want to
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on the attempted assassination of Donald J.
Speaker 2: Trump yesterday.
Speaker 3: I didn't really hear about it until like this morning.
Speaker 3: This morning, I saw this in the year Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's all. I don't really know anything about it. I
Speaker 3: saw the picture of him pulling his fistuff after he
Speaker 3: got shot well, what.
Speaker 2: You think about that picture?
Speaker 3: H and it's it literally it's a kind of a
Speaker 3: cool picture for assassination at times.
Speaker 2: Right right.
Speaker 1: It reminded me when I saw that picture of Immajima,
Speaker 1: a statue that they made trying to take this heel
Speaker 1: and the soldiers was holding the flag, and you know,
Speaker 1: it looked like one of those type of that picture
Speaker 1: is going to be historic because the flag over him,
Speaker 1: the fisshed up the Secret Service. I mean, whoever made
Speaker 1: that shot? That was the money shot that was.
Speaker 2: That was awesome. That was a cool picture. So do
Speaker 2: you think violence is to answer?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I think that in order to build a more compassion
Speaker 3: in society, we need to do it through compassion, not
Speaker 3: through violence, you know what I mean. And so if
Speaker 3: you want a world that's more love, we got to
Speaker 3: fight it through love, not through violence.
Speaker 1: So this action they took place to shoot her, they're
Speaker 1: still under investigation. But you don't agree with him trying
Speaker 1: to silence somebody just because he has a difference in
Speaker 1: an ideology and opinion.
Speaker 3: Even though I don't agree with it, is that Trump,
Speaker 3: I still don't think you should kill anybody in the
Speaker 3: MA regardless opinion. It's their right to believe how they want,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And I think that, honestly,
Speaker 3: it's a slippery, seppy shart shooting people you don't like
Speaker 3: on the other side, they start shooting people on your side,
Speaker 3: and it's a war. That's not what anybody.
Speaker 2: Wants, you know.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I think violence is definitely not the key,
Speaker 1: not the answer. I mean, I'm not saying that if
Speaker 1: you're attacked, you have a right to defend like this
Speaker 1: the counter and telling the shot that God did. I
Speaker 1: saw that because of the fact that he tried to
Speaker 1: kill someone.
Speaker 2: He was the aggressor.
Speaker 1: So in a situation like that, sometimes you got to
Speaker 1: meet it with violence. So they killed the guy because
Speaker 1: he was trying to kill Pete.
Speaker 3: That's fair because he was he had a gun, he
Speaker 3: was dangerous. But I'm not saying I'm not talking about
Speaker 3: like other parties.
Speaker 1: This guy met premeditated, took a rifle, got on the roof,
Speaker 1: and he went there to assassinate Donald J.
Speaker 2: Trump. Yeah that's pretty that's what that's premeditated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's violent, that's wicked, And we definitely concurred
Speaker 1: that it's not acceptable just because we have difference in
Speaker 1: ideologies that a person shouldn't think that killing someone is
Speaker 1: the answer to solve you know.
Speaker 2: The issue.
Speaker 1: Thank you for your opportunity here your thoughts on that.
Speaker 1: Appreciate that, and welcome to Maligue Books. Okay, okay, Ashley,
Speaker 1: come on over here, come on, come on, what you
Speaker 1: got to say about all this? I didn't talk to
Speaker 1: a few customers talk to me.
Speaker 5: I think it's very suspicious. I'm also like chronically online,
Speaker 5: so I'm kind of convinced that it was like they
Speaker 5: did it on purpose.
Speaker 2: Okay, Trump did it on purpose.
Speaker 5: Yeah, or his team maybe to make him look like
Speaker 5: really cool, because now people people are like, I'm in
Speaker 5: him just because he.
Speaker 1: Like so so you really think that he would jeopardize
Speaker 1: his family, jeopardize his kids, jeopardized people did love him
Speaker 1: in the background. Okay, but let's say, for instance, that
Speaker 1: he done that and they found evidence that he'd done
Speaker 1: that when he go to jail.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he's so rich and he's so like we've
Speaker 5: already seen him get convicted of things and he never
Speaker 5: went to jail. He just is so rich that he
Speaker 5: can get off of things.
Speaker 1: So if he plotted to kill someone, that to attempt
Speaker 1: his assassinate and then ultimately several people got killed and
Speaker 1: they found him guilty.
Speaker 2: You don't think he'd go to jail. No, you think
Speaker 2: he is still get off. I don't.
Speaker 5: It seems like so far he keeps getting off on things.
Speaker 5: So I don't know why what would change.
Speaker 1: But even though you feel the way you feel, you
Speaker 1: don't justify someone attempting assassinate you ever try to kill anyone? No? Okay,
Speaker 1: So what evidence do you have that he would stage
Speaker 1: his own attempted assassination?
Speaker 2: Nothing?
Speaker 5: Nothing concrete, just like opinion, just different people saying different things,
Speaker 5: and it gets your mind thinking, oh, okay.
Speaker 1: So it ain't possible that the United States government wouldn't
Speaker 1: attempt to kill him.
Speaker 5: Oh for sure. The government's very corrupt.
Speaker 1: So you don't think that the CIABR possibly could try
Speaker 1: to attempt to kill They could.
Speaker 2: So all of these are possibilities.
Speaker 5: I think the government is I think the whole government
Speaker 5: is corrupt and we should overthrow it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, you're the second person that said that you
Speaker 1: feel that it might have been staged. And on social media,
Speaker 1: I've seen other people say something similar to that, But
Speaker 1: I also heard other people say that this was a
Speaker 1: real attempted assassination because of difference in ill theologies and
Speaker 1: beliefs in that President Biden and all of his uh
Speaker 1: in the Democratic Party for the last eight years have
Speaker 1: consistently onslaughted in target did Trump with words that he
Speaker 1: did he's a hitler, and that he's wicked, and that
Speaker 1: he's it is an existential threat to democracy, and that
Speaker 1: these things could possibly influence people in a way of violence.
Speaker 5: I mean, I know people like really love Trump and
Speaker 5: I'm not sure why, but yeah, you shouldn't try to
Speaker 5: assassinate anyone. But I think I think all government is
Speaker 5: kind of sketchy, whether you're a Republican or Democrat. I
Speaker 5: truly believe that the presidents aren't the ones in control.
Speaker 5: It's large corporations and everyone with lots of money, like
Speaker 5: all the big businesses that own all the smaller businesses,
Speaker 5: Like I feel like they're like little puppeteers, like like
Speaker 5: Trump isn't really like it's not all Trump's fault, but
Speaker 5: it's also not all Biden's fault. I think there's more
Speaker 5: to it. I think I think it's more complex.
Speaker 1: I definitely concur with that that belief that the that
Speaker 1: the president doesn't run the country, that the rich and
Speaker 1: elite does, and they have unlimited resources and power to
Speaker 1: influence leaders to do their well.
Speaker 2: I definitely agree with that. A lot of people agree.
Speaker 1: With that, and so with that, thank you for your thoughts.
Speaker 5: But I know that it's it's corporations causing a lot
Speaker 5: of these problems because there's some money.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, thank you for your thoughts, Ashley. I'll see
Speaker 1: another customer at Eligue Books. I'm gonna go over here
Speaker 1: and ask them their thoughts on the attempt assassination.
Speaker 2: How you are young ladies doing good? Good good.
Speaker 1: I got a podcast called Malice's Bookshelf bringing the world
Speaker 1: together with books, culture and community. And what I'm doing
Speaker 1: is just asking people what you thought about the attempted
Speaker 1: assassination of Donald Trump yesterday.
Speaker 2: Come on, give me your thought.
Speaker 1: I do not have any.
Speaker 2: Okay, have you seen the videos? Okay? You ain't seen
Speaker 2: none of the news social media?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, the news and what about you? You haven't
Speaker 1: seen the whole thing.
Speaker 2: But it's it's crazy. But what do you think about
Speaker 2: is balanced? The answer no?
Speaker 1: Never. So you don't agree with someone trying to assassinate.
Speaker 1: You might disagree with Donald Trump, but you don't agree
Speaker 1: with somebody's trying to kill.
Speaker 2: Him, do you.
Speaker 3: No, that's.
Speaker 2: So both of you concur with that.
Speaker 1: Okay, the violence is not the way, But don't you
Speaker 1: feel that that that words are influential and that when
Speaker 1: people incite I guess like saying that Trump is an
Speaker 1: existential threat by saying that he's a rapist, by saying that,
Speaker 1: you're making what I'm saying that you're making people hate
Speaker 1: him and you're making an exciting people to maybe want
Speaker 1: to assassinate him, thinking that that's you're doing a noble thing.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Yeah, he says a
Speaker 1: lot of crazy stuff, but it still doesn't like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not okay that he's attempted assassination. That's crazy and
Speaker 1: it's scary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's scary. That's scary.
Speaker 1: I mean, we had a agree to disagree whout kind
Speaker 1: of killed somebody because your policies might be different, or
Speaker 1: I don't like what you say is not a reason.
Speaker 2: For violence.
Speaker 1: For violence actually do lose their life that way.
Speaker 2: So already, so yeah.
Speaker 1: Yes, well we appreciate your thoughts. The last bookshelf bringing
Speaker 1: the world together with books, culture and welcome to Maligue Books.
Speaker 1: All right, well, I think that I got about what
Speaker 1: four or five people get their thoughts on Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: I did my talk about Donald Trump. So this is
Speaker 1: what this next episode, the Great Divide, the attempted assassination
Speaker 1: of Donald J.
Speaker 2: Trump.
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