WEBVTT - The Importance of Mutual Aid Work on the Border

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<v Speaker 1>Cause media.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey everyone, it's James. I am just recording an introduction

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<v Speaker 2>for today's episode, which we recorded on Sunday night. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>recording this on Monday night and you will hear this

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<v Speaker 2>on Tuesday morning. That's Tuesday, the twenty eighth of November.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to include another ask for donations right

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<v Speaker 2>up front here, because we are tired, broke and sad.

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<v Speaker 2>I spent last night sleeping out by the migrant camp

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<v Speaker 2>in Nocumber, one of the camps. It was extremely cold

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<v Speaker 2>like and I had a good sleeping bag, right it

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<v Speaker 2>must have been much much worse for people have blankets.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a young woman completely breaking down and crying

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<v Speaker 2>this morning, understandably because it's terrible and people have been

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<v Speaker 2>there for five six days now. We ran out of

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<v Speaker 2>food all our distribution sites today. We just desperately need

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<v Speaker 2>more help and we need a much larger scale operation,

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<v Speaker 2>but we can't find that. So if you're able to help,

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<v Speaker 2>please please do. I know it's a difficult time of year.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not asking you to give money that I wouldn't give.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thousand plus dollars deep in this. I'm not asking

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<v Speaker 2>you to do things that I wouldn't do spending half

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<v Speaker 2>my week out there. Like I'm not just preaching something

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<v Speaker 2>that I am not part of. Is something I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>much part of. Some think it's very important to me

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<v Speaker 2>and it would mean a lot to me if people

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<v Speaker 2>could help however they can, either materially or with their time.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much and I hope you enjoy the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, it's me James, the guy who does podcasts who

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<v Speaker 2>talks to you when you're driving to work, and today

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<v Speaker 2>on this podcast it Could Happen Here, which is about

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<v Speaker 2>the world falling apart and people who are putting it

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<v Speaker 2>back together. I am joined by two friends of mine.

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<v Speaker 2>We are in the desert in a Cumber at the

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<v Speaker 2>Cumba Hot Springs Hotel, which is open now thankfully. We've

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<v Speaker 2>just spent most of today and the last two months

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<v Speaker 2>doing mutual aid project out here. So if you guys

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<v Speaker 2>like to introduce yourselves in any way you think is relevant,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be great to start off with, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we can talk about what's been going on here.

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<v Speaker 3>I am have aal I use the them pronouns. I

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<v Speaker 3>live in San Diego but now currently living in Harcumber

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<v Speaker 3>helping out with the migrant crisis at the border.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, I'm alo like alo Vera, I use she her pronouns,

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<v Speaker 4>And I've been doing mutual aid for a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>years now and recently have come into the scene of

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<v Speaker 4>helping with the refugee crisis at the border.

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<v Speaker 2>Massive thank you, Okay. So I think to start off with,

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<v Speaker 2>can one of you or both of you describe just

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<v Speaker 2>what we've seen today. I think it's very hard for

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<v Speaker 2>people to get a grasp of how the scale of

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening and how bad it is here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So today we are in the wake of a holiday

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<v Speaker 3>where c BP takes off, well most of them are

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<v Speaker 3>taking off for the holiday, and probably what is it

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<v Speaker 3>iss action as well, who picks up the migrants. So

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<v Speaker 3>there's a huge backlog of people not getting picked up,

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<v Speaker 3>stuck in these open air detention sites. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>some of the highest numbers that we've seen in a

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<v Speaker 3>long time since like the beginning of this what happened

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<v Speaker 3>in September, right, Yeah, and it's insane, like the amount

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<v Speaker 3>of people that we were running out of food. Basically

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<v Speaker 3>we barely made it by on peanut butter and jelly sandwich,

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<v Speaker 3>the world famous peanut butter.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we feed them they just want the sandwich.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was wild.

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<v Speaker 3>It was It's it's like the desperation is getting worse

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<v Speaker 3>because as it gets colder, you know, people are suffering more.

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<v Speaker 3>They're you know, shivering more, so it's using more energy.

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<v Speaker 3>They're more hungry when we show up there tailing our

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<v Speaker 3>van as we pull up, which doesn't didn't always happen,

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, the desperation is real.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw what like three sixty I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think at one camp Willows and then at another camp

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<v Speaker 3>it was one fifty at another camp totally what seven

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<v Speaker 3>math is hard?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and it varies throughout the day, right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised. We should explain, maybe Ali can do this.

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<v Speaker 2>What is it open at detention site?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Oads is yacarnoon we use What does that look like?

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<v Speaker 4>So an opener detention center from what I've seen, is

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<v Speaker 4>literally just people left out in the desert with nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>The shelter that they have has either been built themselves

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<v Speaker 4>by the shrubs and you know, the manzanita bushes that

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<v Speaker 4>they find around there that they also burn, which creates

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<v Speaker 4>awful smoke, as well as what we provide them in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of tarps, blankets, tents. What I've seen in the

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<v Speaker 4>open air detention centers is essentially when Border Patrol has

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<v Speaker 4>the start of a quarter, they have the money to

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<v Speaker 4>really get people out of there. You have a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people just processed very quickly. It doesn't pile up.

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<v Speaker 4>And then because of that, all the infrastructure that we

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<v Speaker 4>put into these places, and all of the infrastructure that

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<v Speaker 4>these refugees build themselves, right this is not provided by

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<v Speaker 4>Border Patrol, gets basically ruined. And so you have soiled

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<v Speaker 4>blankets that have become the tops of tents because that's

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<v Speaker 4>their only use.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point.

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<v Speaker 4>You have not enough shelters, so people are sleeping just

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<v Speaker 4>among the rocks and trees because it's the best they can.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think one of the most notable points of

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<v Speaker 4>these open air detention centers is legally speaking, Border Patrol

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<v Speaker 4>gets around this by not really calling them detention centers,

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<v Speaker 4>saying that they're not detained and that technically they're free.

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<v Speaker 4>But the reality is there's nowhere for them to go

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<v Speaker 4>without getting you know, arrested or deported. But because of

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<v Speaker 4>this loophole, Border Patrol has no obligation to feed them,

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<v Speaker 4>and so when they do feed them at the start

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<v Speaker 4>of the quarter when they have the budget at which

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<v Speaker 4>they blow. It's oranges, it's crackers. It's not enough to

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<v Speaker 4>live off of when you're stuck there for five days.

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<v Speaker 4>I spoke to a Kurdish migrant today who had been

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<v Speaker 4>there for five days. And you know, we've heard of

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<v Speaker 4>people staying there for an entire week, just stuck in

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<v Speaker 4>these camps as they overflow with people because they're not

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<v Speaker 4>cleared due to whether it be a holiday season or

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<v Speaker 4>whatever it might be that puts us in this circumstance.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and obviously most people won't have been here. You

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<v Speaker 2>can look on a map or Google Maps that you

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<v Speaker 2>want to, but all of this is happening like literally

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<v Speaker 2>in the shadow of the border wall in some cases,

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<v Speaker 2>or right next to the border wall. Sometimes it's a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit next, a little bit further away. And just

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<v Speaker 2>to explain why there are these where they eye you,

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<v Speaker 2>guys want to explain like how people are getting to

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<v Speaker 2>the because cir Cumber. If you've got Google Maps, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're not driving, like, you can put it up and

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<v Speaker 2>you can look right, we're like an hour and a

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<v Speaker 2>bit east of San Diego, at seventy miles east of

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<v Speaker 2>San Diego closer to El Centro in San Diego. So

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<v Speaker 2>can you explain how people are ending up here by

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<v Speaker 2>the hundreds of thousands.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk to many migrants and they stay in a hotel

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<v Speaker 3>in TJ. I have no idea which one, and wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>give that information if I did, but they, Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 3>stay in a hotel in TJ. And they get separated

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<v Speaker 3>by nationality. So the Coyotes take their passports from them

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<v Speaker 3>and put them in stacks and separate them by their nationalities.

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<v Speaker 3>So you'll get you know, Chinese nationalists together, You'll get

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<v Speaker 3>people that are from Turkey together, mostly Kurdish, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you'll get whatever their nationality is.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm sure the outliers get just lumped into whatever

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<v Speaker 3>is the most you know, like group, yeah, language group exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they get in the morning, I guess that

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<v Speaker 3>like five or six am, they drive all the way

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<v Speaker 3>out from TJ to Hkamba and get dropped off at

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<v Speaker 3>there's three points where there's breaks in the walls. And

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<v Speaker 3>these walls obviously they don't go over the mountains because

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<v Speaker 3>Trump was trying to build distance rather than actual stopping people,

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<v Speaker 3>and so these breaks in the walls are very easy

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<v Speaker 3>to cross.

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<v Speaker 1>It's literally just walking over.

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<v Speaker 3>There was some remnants of concertina wire or bob wire

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<v Speaker 3>like in the area, but it's all ripped and super

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<v Speaker 3>easy to cross.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the.

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<v Speaker 3>Coyotes will drop them off near or bits away from

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<v Speaker 3>that point and have them walk in when that's where

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<v Speaker 3>border patrol. After they cross, border patrol will intercept them

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<v Speaker 3>give them wristbands for the day they arrived. We actually

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<v Speaker 3>just saw this last week. They must have ran out

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<v Speaker 3>of wristbands because they were giving like Sunday wristbands when

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<v Speaker 3>it was like a Wednesday. Yeah, everybody saying fuck like

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<v Speaker 3>and that makes our job more complicated too. Not only

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<v Speaker 3>their job, I'm sure, because they're trying to process them

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<v Speaker 3>in order, but our job because we're trying to record

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<v Speaker 3>how long have people been here. I remember I was

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<v Speaker 3>talking to a Chinese nationalist and had to call a

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<v Speaker 3>translator just to see like because they had a Sunday

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<v Speaker 3>wristband and I think it was Tuesday or something already,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, wait, you got you've been here

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<v Speaker 3>for two days. And they were like like trying to

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<v Speaker 3>explain what the language barrier wants. The translated like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>we got here three hours ago. We kept thinking they

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<v Speaker 3>got here three days ago. They kept showing the number

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<v Speaker 3>three on their hands, and so, yeah, they give them

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<v Speaker 3>these wristbands and then tell them to wait in these

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<v Speaker 3>areas that are very close to where they are intercepted,

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<v Speaker 3>and Border patrol will tell them there's cameras all over

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<v Speaker 3>the desert, we're watching you, so don't leave, and if

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<v Speaker 3>you leave, it'll mess up your migro process or your

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<v Speaker 3>asylum process, and so they most of them stay. We've

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<v Speaker 3>actually have seen a lot of people walking on the

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<v Speaker 3>eighty here trying to get to town because they're desperate,

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<v Speaker 3>they're cold, they're hungry, and they're probably just like fuck this,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. But it's interesting too, how like border patrol

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<v Speaker 3>in all media aspects denies the existence of the camps.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're not explicitly to me right later, they don't exist,

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<v Speaker 2>or they don't detain people people that they what they'll

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<v Speaker 2>say to people aren't detained here, that they're free to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Which technically they are and they can walk.

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<v Speaker 3>But I had a Kurdish friend that I met at

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<v Speaker 3>one of the camps that we call Moon Camp, and

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<v Speaker 3>twenty year old from Turkey, and he said that him

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<v Speaker 3>and a bunch of friends that he was traveling with

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<v Speaker 3>just walked to the subway up the street, got a

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<v Speaker 3>subway sandwich, and then border patrol showed up after they

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<v Speaker 3>had ordered their food, yeah, and said you have to

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<v Speaker 3>go back with us, but finish your food here, because

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<v Speaker 3>imagine them walking in was being taken back with subway

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<v Speaker 3>sandwiches and be like, oh, we can just leave and

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<v Speaker 3>get out of here. Like so they just finished their

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<v Speaker 3>sandwiches and then he took them straight back.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is detention. If you can't leave, then you're

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<v Speaker 1>in detention. That's the debt. By definition.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, yeah, and I don't think people think

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<v Speaker 2>they are free to leave. And I don't think people

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<v Speaker 2>certainly they're not told what situation they were in, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that maybe they would assume that, But there's

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<v Speaker 2>also not very many places for them to go. We

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<v Speaker 2>are in the middle of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 4>So from what I've talked to different people, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>on top of just like crossing the border, there's also

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<v Speaker 4>an entire period where these people are traveling and all

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<v Speaker 4>of them travel in different ways, and some of them

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<v Speaker 4>are traveling all the way from South America through Panama,

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<v Speaker 4>through the jungle, and you know, people are dying on

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<v Speaker 4>the route over here, and some of them are lucky

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<v Speaker 4>enough to just fly in and and you know, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>they have to fight to Cancun, fly into Cancun, and

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<v Speaker 4>then make their way over to TJ and make it

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<v Speaker 4>through the border. And I have seen, like for myself

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<v Speaker 4>with my own eyes, you know, burns from motorcycle exhaust

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<v Speaker 4>from you know, the different methods that they've used to

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<v Speaker 4>get here. And I've seen spider bites, I've seen, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>injuries that are infected that have been infected for a

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<v Speaker 4>long time because they've been that way since they were

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<v Speaker 4>in the jungle, and it's inadequate. I had a woman

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<v Speaker 4>that I was helping give medical care to whose ankles

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<v Speaker 4>were swollen from a steroid that she was given that

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<v Speaker 4>she should not have been given and that she had

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<v Speaker 4>a bad reaction to. And yeah, that's just been their

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<v Speaker 4>reality traveling here and trying to get here. On top

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<v Speaker 4>of that, I think that speaking of medical issues and

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<v Speaker 4>speaking on what you were saying earlier about the threats

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<v Speaker 4>of becoming undocumented, the threats of you know, being forced

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<v Speaker 4>to stay in these camps. There's even fear of having

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<v Speaker 4>a medical emergency. So like when EMS comes out, when

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<v Speaker 4>we call nine to one one or Border patrol calls

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<v Speaker 4>nine one one, right, they're not like working in connection

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<v Speaker 4>with Border Patrol. They're just going to a hospital as

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<v Speaker 4>if it was you know, someone house person on the

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<v Speaker 4>street going to the hospital. And so they end up there,

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<v Speaker 4>and if they're not given the proper information to get

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<v Speaker 4>a court tape, to finish their asylum process and to

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<v Speaker 4>really like be submitted properly into the country, they are

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<v Speaker 4>at risk of becoming undocumented. And I think that fear

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<v Speaker 4>has spread among people, and I've definitely noticed personally that

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<v Speaker 4>there is fear to have nine to one call to

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<v Speaker 4>be taken away in an ambulance because they fear, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>becoming undocumented or being.

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<v Speaker 2>At risk or separated.

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<v Speaker 4>Separated has been a big thing because if they end

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<v Speaker 4>up having their process either take longer or just be

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<v Speaker 4>stuck in the hospital or whatever it may be, they're

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<v Speaker 4>away from their family, they have to go through a

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<v Speaker 4>different process. They're not processed that at the detention center

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<v Speaker 4>is the same way or at the same time. So

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<v Speaker 4>it's just it's a it's a there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>fear and I think that's led to a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>unnecessary harm. And we do our best in terms of

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<v Speaker 4>medical care, but there's you know, we're limited. We you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's over the counter, it's you know, it's we can't

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<v Speaker 4>do much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's a street medicine really yeah exactly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we have some doctors and nurses and other qualified

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<v Speaker 2>medical people come and help, but they don't have the

0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.000
<v Speaker 2>diagnostic tools that they need. Right, Like today we had

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who had clearly some high issues and like the

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<v Speaker 2>best we can do is say, this person needs to

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<v Speaker 2>go to hospital. But then in this case they were

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<v Speaker 2>able to take the person's partners. Sometimes they won't take

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<v Speaker 2>the person's partner. Sometimes the person could be separated from

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<v Speaker 2>their children, and so they're obviously very afraid of that.

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<v Speaker 2>And to compound that, I think like the release that

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<v Speaker 2>they're not released in the way they had proviously been released,

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<v Speaker 2>that they're dumped onto the street at certain transit centers, right,

0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:39.040
<v Speaker 2>and then again it falls onto volunteers nonprofits to help

0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:51.960
<v Speaker 2>them get to where they're going to go. The scale

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<v Speaker 2>of the mutual aid operation is really impressive, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>something that I don't think is is like we don't

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<v Speaker 2>talk about enough. People don't really understand it, So could

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we just start like literally what we do every

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<v Speaker 2>day in a day. We havevolity here every day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, One thing I forgot to mention is I

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<v Speaker 3>am here every single day now full time, ten plus

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<v Speaker 3>hours a day. It's eight days a week. And so yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>every day we wake up. I wake up around like

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<v Speaker 3>six am, and we try to get to the first camp,

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<v Speaker 3>which is down the street from where I'm staying, around

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<v Speaker 3>seven thirty or eight o'clock in the morning. And the

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<v Speaker 3>previous night we have loaded the van up with peanut

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<v Speaker 3>butter and jelly sandwiches because they have a good hold,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't need to keep them really refrigerated much or

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the YadA YadA, and so it's just peb

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<v Speaker 3>and j's water and fruit and we give them each

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<v Speaker 3>one at least sometimes more if we have the capability,

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<v Speaker 3>and then we another person who is also here full

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<v Speaker 3>time will hit another camp on their way because it's

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<v Speaker 3>on their way to meet up at a central location

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<v Speaker 3>we call the Youth Center or the YC, where all

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<v Speaker 3>of our donations end up, whether it's clothes, blankets, food items,

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<v Speaker 3>non perishables, perishables. We have a fridge and in that place.

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<v Speaker 3>Once we get there, we'll assess what we need to

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<v Speaker 3>do is do we need to make more food? Do

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<v Speaker 3>we have enough to go feed the third camp, which

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<v Speaker 3>we call one seven seven, which is all the way

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<v Speaker 3>in Boulevard a little outside of Hakamba, And if we

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<v Speaker 3>have enough, we'll just hit we'll leave and hit that

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<v Speaker 3>spot and then come back and start dinner. And in

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<v Speaker 3>the meanwhile, we have a lot of volunteers that will

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<v Speaker 3>show up and make peanut butter and jelly sandwiches because

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<v Speaker 3>that is our easy go to staple. It's quick to

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<v Speaker 3>give out. It's you know, not a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 3>prep time to make you know, five hundred sandwiches, which

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<v Speaker 3>seems like a lot, but we've gone through probably tens

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<v Speaker 3>of thousand sandwiches by this point.

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<v Speaker 2>So he gave out a thousand PB andjs today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we ran out like today, I gave out everything

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<v Speaker 3>and there was even people where like the two we

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<v Speaker 3>got everybody in the line, which was I think I

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<v Speaker 3>think that was around three sixty. No, no, it was

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<v Speaker 3>three sixty when we did account and so in the morning, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and we ran out and but we had two. So

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<v Speaker 3>like a lot of the times, especially the micros that

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<v Speaker 3>have been there multiple days, they'll jump in. There's like

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<v Speaker 3>always two people or three people that are like, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>here to help Kurdish people, our amazing help and are

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<v Speaker 3>always willing to step up. But yeah, this morning at

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<v Speaker 3>Willow one of the camps, we had two guys that

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<v Speaker 3>were kind of controlling the line and helping keep them back,

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<v Speaker 3>and one of them like send them to us one

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<v Speaker 3>at a time. And at the very end of it,

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<v Speaker 3>I had nothing for them, and I was like going

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<v Speaker 3>to hook them up with a couple of sandwiches and

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<v Speaker 3>a little like everybody who helps, I'll cook them up

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<v Speaker 3>with a couple of extra sandwiches or food items or

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<v Speaker 3>water or cigarettes even And uh, yeah, I had nothing

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<v Speaker 3>for them except for kids sandwiches or kid sandwiches kid packs.

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<v Speaker 3>So we make these little sand which bags full of

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<v Speaker 3>like different candies and you know, granola bars and things

0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:06.800
<v Speaker 3>that kids would like to eat and give them a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of nutrition and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just gave them extra.

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<v Speaker 3>That and once other migrants saw me giving those things

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<v Speaker 3>out that I had been holding and telling other people, no,

0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:18.119
<v Speaker 3>these are for kids, then everybody swarmed and it was

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<v Speaker 3>just like, okay, well, I'm giving all the kid whoever's there,

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<v Speaker 3>whoever's arm is there, They're getting you know, a kid's pack,

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<v Speaker 3>and got rid of literally all of our food. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think we put in like twelve plus cases of water,

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<v Speaker 3>forty packs, and they were all gone except for maybe

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<v Speaker 3>like ten or fifteen waters.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one of the more dire mornings.

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<v Speaker 3>That we've had, especially Yeah, at these camps.

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<v Speaker 4>I know that three p sixty was the number that

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<v Speaker 4>you guys got in the morning, but I believe that

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<v Speaker 4>by the time that we were working in the evening,

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<v Speaker 4>at least when I was doing medical check, the number

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<v Speaker 4>that I was getting told either around the camp or

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<v Speaker 4>from Border Patrol was five hundred at Willows So and

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<v Speaker 4>this is you know, these are numbers that even Border

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<v Speaker 4>Patrol is like freaking out over. They are, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>worried because they can't deal with this quantity of people

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<v Speaker 4>and keep them processing while there's still a consistent flow.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's you know, it puts a lot of strain

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<v Speaker 4>on us because, like you were saying, we're running out

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<v Speaker 4>of food. We don't have enough to feed five hundred people.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, every day, even though we're just doing you know,

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<v Speaker 4>two meals, a breakfast and as best we can a dinner,

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<v Speaker 4>and trying to make sure that dinner is a hot

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<v Speaker 4>meal because it is frigid out here. I slept in

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<v Speaker 4>my van and I kept having to wake up to

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<v Speaker 4>try and warm up and do something to keep myself

0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:45.640
<v Speaker 4>from freezing. And I, you know, I can only imagine

0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:50.440
<v Speaker 4>what it's like for them with what minimal equipment they have.

0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:54.000
<v Speaker 4>Some of them don't even have tents. So it has

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<v Speaker 4>been a lot. I know that today, running medical, I've

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<v Speaker 4>seen a lot of people with colds, and I am

0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:05.720
<v Speaker 4>suspicious that that perhaps there is COVID running around, that

0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:09.560
<v Speaker 4>perhaps there is, you know something, there's definitely something, some

0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:12.280
<v Speaker 4>kind of very severe illness. Going through the camps and

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<v Speaker 4>being in this freezing cold is not helping anyone's immune system.

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<v Speaker 4>And on top of that, I've seen broken fingers and

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<v Speaker 4>some other stuff. And that's that's been my today. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>has been treating that and then helping out with dinner,

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<v Speaker 4>which I will say I tried a little bit of

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<v Speaker 4>the lentils and rice, and I can say we are

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<v Speaker 4>feeding them well.

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<v Speaker 1>It is delicious, delicious food. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Sam Schultz, an amazing cook and an amazing helper for

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<v Speaker 4>us making sure that we, you know, are able to

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<v Speaker 4>do this for like you were saying, for a long time,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, this was put on uh, you know, one

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<v Speaker 4>family of locals to really yeah, one family of Quakers

0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:57.520
<v Speaker 4>to really take care of these people day in and

0:20:57.600 --> 0:21:01.840
<v Speaker 4>day out. And it wasn't until you came here and

0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:04.440
<v Speaker 4>we're able to actually like be here full time that

0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:10.920
<v Speaker 4>there was even just an extra hand around. And you know, right,

0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:13.439
<v Speaker 4>volunteers are here during the week. But the reality is

0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:15.320
<v Speaker 4>is we are all still stuck at work, we all

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<v Speaker 4>still live in this healthscape. We're all still stuck grinding

0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:22.960
<v Speaker 4>those gears and making ends meet. And so coming out

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<v Speaker 4>here for a lot of us is you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>for me, is a weekend task. It's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>what we can do. It's what we have the ability

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<v Speaker 4>and the time and the gas money for. And on

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<v Speaker 4>top of that, a lot of us spent a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of our own money. I know that I've spent like

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<v Speaker 4>at least a grand and a half on just like

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<v Speaker 4>supplies for these runs, on supplies for whatever I can.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, sometimes we get we're able to get

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<v Speaker 4>reimbursed by our mutual aids, and sometimes the money runs

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<v Speaker 4>dry and we just, you know, we need a lot

0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:56.560
<v Speaker 4>of support out here that we don't have, that we

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<v Speaker 4>don't get And I feel like we really felt that

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<v Speaker 4>today running out of food.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was bleak today. And of course the thing is,

0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:06.040
<v Speaker 2>like we can feed five hundred people and do this

0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:09.480
<v Speaker 2>gargantuane effort, and then we have to feed the same

0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:12.080
<v Speaker 2>number tomorrow. And like if we clear out us that

0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:15.000
<v Speaker 2>we on top of like those of us who are

0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:17.720
<v Speaker 2>able to go out to do medicals, to do feeds,

0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:20.879
<v Speaker 2>sometimes some of us go out and construct shelters or

0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:22.280
<v Speaker 2>to check that there aren't people who are sick and

0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:24.680
<v Speaker 2>the shelters who aren't getting care that they need, et cetera,

0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:27.440
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. Like you said, people have to cook, right,

0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:31.439
<v Speaker 2>people have to make pbdas people have to resupply our

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<v Speaker 2>stuff and drive it up from San Diego, which is

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<v Speaker 2>an hour and fifteen minutes away. Like it's a gargantuine

0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:41.760
<v Speaker 2>effort that it's exclusively taken on by volunteers, and like

0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:46.359
<v Speaker 2>a relatively small group of volunteers considering the scale of

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<v Speaker 2>the task at hand. I wonder like if you would

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<v Speaker 2>like talk about your volunteering experience a little bit, because

0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:54.879
<v Speaker 2>I think it's been great. Like it's a very diverse

0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:57.439
<v Speaker 2>group of people. We've had so many We have the

0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:00.439
<v Speaker 2>Schultz family who are Quakers, who are amazing, who have

0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:04.320
<v Speaker 2>been like spearheading this since the start. We have like

0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:07.600
<v Speaker 2>obviously a lot of anarchist people, and a lot of

0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:12.480
<v Speaker 2>people from various migrant advocacy and aid groups. Uh that's

0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:15.160
<v Speaker 2>what we had the Black Panthers the other day. And

0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:16.960
<v Speaker 2>it's probably a ton of people I'm missing.

0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:20.840
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, in church groups, church careers, I mean, the

0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:23.080
<v Speaker 3>whole the y C was kind of given to us

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<v Speaker 3>and I think now we're renting it to my knowledge,

0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:29.919
<v Speaker 3>but that was given to us by the what's the

0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:33.760
<v Speaker 3>Church of Methodist Church here in Hukumba. And then there's

0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:37.640
<v Speaker 3>a group of Mormons and they're just kind of unaffiliated

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:39.479
<v Speaker 3>from the church in a way, like they're not There

0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:42.479
<v Speaker 3>was just a family that saw the need and some

0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:45.080
<v Speaker 3>of the elders were helping load up the beans that

0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:48.080
<v Speaker 3>they made the other day. You know from the house

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:51.399
<v Speaker 3>that the lady that makes it, and then another lady,

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:54.320
<v Speaker 3>Mormon lady makes us these roles and we'll just like

0:23:54.359 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 3>give us like hundreds and hundreds of bread rolls, which

0:23:57.320 --> 0:23:59.400
<v Speaker 3>everybody loves, even the volunteers.

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I've been eating the bread home made rolls. Yeah, it's

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:03.160
<v Speaker 1>super good.

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:06.680
<v Speaker 3>So that Yeah, like you said, mutual ad groups, anarchists,

0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:09.879
<v Speaker 3>just individuals. Random people will show up they heard it.

0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 3>We had a couple of people show up that heard

0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:16.639
<v Speaker 3>it on National, NPR, KPBS, and you know, then they

0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:20.680
<v Speaker 3>orgs border kindness. I'll look, Gelato will come out here

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 3>and send volunteers and whatnot. But it's hard to really

0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:26.160
<v Speaker 3>rely on volunteers. Like we have a sign up sheet

0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:27.720
<v Speaker 3>and everything so we can kind of gauge what the

0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 3>day is going to be like.

0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:30.320
<v Speaker 1>But sometimes people don't show up, and.

0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:34.399
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes especially around the holiday times, it gets really thin

0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:36.760
<v Speaker 3>because everybody's got their own lives and things to do.

0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:41.239
<v Speaker 3>And but yeah, I mean I started volunteering just on

0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:43.600
<v Speaker 3>my weekends when I was working full time at my

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:48.480
<v Speaker 3>dead end job back at home in San Diego, and

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 3>I would you know, saw the need. I was down

0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:54.719
<v Speaker 3>at Whiskey eight in San di Sidro pretty much every

0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:55.600
<v Speaker 3>day after work and.

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 1>On the weekends.

0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 3>And then when they started doing street releases at IRIS

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:03.639
<v Speaker 3>station in San Diego. I would just be there full

0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:06.760
<v Speaker 3>time and on my weekends, just be there until in

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:09.480
<v Speaker 3>death and Haitian Bridge started showing up and kind of

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:12.160
<v Speaker 3>took in Detention Resistance and they kind of took over

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 3>that scene, and so the need was like, oh, Jakamba

0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 3>needs help, so I just would come. After that, I

0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:21.800
<v Speaker 3>just started coming out here every weekend from I would

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:24.960
<v Speaker 3>get off on a Thursday at like two pm, take

0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 3>care of my cats at home for a second, then

0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:30.920
<v Speaker 3>drive out, help out whatever I could by the time

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:34.720
<v Speaker 3>I got here, spend the night somehow either I never

0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:36.439
<v Speaker 3>had to sleep in my car, but I would be

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:40.119
<v Speaker 3>ready to, and then I have some friends here that

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:43.760
<v Speaker 3>would put me up for the night and stay Thursday

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:46.679
<v Speaker 3>night to Friday, work all day Friday and all day

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 3>Saturday until I had to go home because I worked

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:51.440
<v Speaker 3>at five am on Sunday. And then all that week

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 3>I would just be at wait going down after work.

0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 3>And so I haven't had a day off since this

0:25:57.160 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 3>really started. I mean, I think I got the flu

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 3>for a week five days right am. I had a

0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:04.240
<v Speaker 3>fever four or five fucking days in a row, which

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 3>is horrible, but so not really a day off.

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:10.639
<v Speaker 1>Technically, but yeah.

0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 3>And then I since I had been coming out here

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 3>every weekend and dedicating my time to Hukumba and had

0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 3>so many ties with like the locals and I know,

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:20.399
<v Speaker 3>the people who own the hotel out here that we

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 3>are currently at, and just you know, showed face and

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:27.399
<v Speaker 3>it showed a strong worth work ethic, I guess to

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:30.399
<v Speaker 3>help feed these people, and the passion of you know,

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 3>and the amount of care that I gave and attention

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:36.439
<v Speaker 3>to these people and listening to them and the Schultz

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 3>family who are like the main on the ground people.

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 3>Since day one, We're like, yeah, this this person needs

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:45.080
<v Speaker 3>to be out here. We want to have all out

0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:49.639
<v Speaker 3>here full time and all Lochlado got a grant to

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 3>UH to basically fund that, and so once that money

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:56.240
<v Speaker 3>came through, I just took a sabbatical from my nine

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:59.120
<v Speaker 3>to five and I was like, peace, I got more

0:26:59.160 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 3>important things.

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.919
<v Speaker 1>Do you think give Jeff Bezos more money? You know?

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.959
<v Speaker 1>So he needs more yachts clearly?

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, clearly?

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:09.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah and more space trips you know.

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:12.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 1>So yeah.

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 3>So ever since then, I've just you know, I'm lucky

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:18.639
<v Speaker 3>enough to have that, and you know, showed that, you know,

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 3>dedication to where I can be out here, and I

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 3>honestly like some people may think like, oh, because I'm

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:25.919
<v Speaker 3>getting paid, I'm a boss or I'm a lead, and

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:28.200
<v Speaker 3>like to me, it's like, no, we're all leading and

0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:30.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm still just doing the same work. I'm just now

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:35.440
<v Speaker 3>able to be here well on payroll forty eight hours

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 3>a week, but in reality it's ten hour days, eight

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 3>days a week.

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 2>It's all the time. And like, yeah, I think it's

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 2>really important that people know actually that we have a

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 2>very veryverque group. It's not like everybody is necessarily like

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 2>committed to horizontal organizing is a bill and endule, but

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:51.880
<v Speaker 2>that's how we operate and it works really well.

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, especially Sam and the Quakers, they're very good at

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:59.159
<v Speaker 3>listening to the American Friends Society.

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:02.879
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, it works so well. Like when I was

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:05.679
<v Speaker 2>just thinking the other day, I was out here and

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 2>it was the day before the holiday, and first of all,

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 2>we had this moment where this lady pulled up and

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:12.119
<v Speaker 2>she was like, hey, who's in charge. We were all

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 2>like everyone's in charge, and the lady was like what

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:17.679
<v Speaker 2>how does that? How did you then? But then like

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 2>another time, we had a bit of a crisis we

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 2>ran out of balls when we're trying to feed people,

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 2>and like one of us came up with yeah, and

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 2>the ziplock back yeah we made. So we were like,

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:30.160
<v Speaker 2>we didn't have bowls, we had sandwiches, So we gave

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 2>them a sandwich and then took the zip block back

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:35.119
<v Speaker 2>back and filled it with beans. And like, you know,

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:37.120
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't the person who'd been here for the longest

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 2>or done the most sessions, but it was a great

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 2>idea and it got us out of a difficult situation.

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 2>And like, I think, because we organize with respect for

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 2>each other, we can listen to each other and incorporate

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 2>those ideas. And you had something to say.

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 4>Oh, yeah, I just I want to highlight the community

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 4>that I've seen built here. I know that in terms

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 4>of nine hich organizing, I I personally have seen you know,

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 4>everyone step up and lead, even people who are there

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 4>their first day. Right if there is a task to

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 4>be done and they say they know how to do

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 4>it and they have a good idea, they're leading it,

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 4>They're spearheading it. There is you know, there's no second

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 4>guessing or egos that I've seen, at least not to

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 4>such a degree that it's been harmful, and I think

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 4>that that has given us a lot of power and

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 4>has allowed sort of our creativity to get us through this.

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 4>I think it's a testament to what non hierarchical organizing

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 4>means and how you know, lack of hierarchy and lack

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 4>of a dedicated leader doesn't mean a lack of leadership.

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 4>I think it falls on all of us to lead.

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:55.959
<v Speaker 4>It falls on all of us to bring what we

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 4>know to the table, whether that be from the experience

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 4>that we've had coming here and working here and knowing

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 4>the details and the minutia of what's going on specifically

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 4>here in Hakumba with this project, or what we bring

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 4>to the table from our past experiences. And I think

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 4>that that has really beautifully coalesced into a really efficient

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 4>system as best as we can do, as best as

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 4>we can manage. You know, we've really made do and

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 4>kept people alive in a huge way.

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think kept people alive is right, Like

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 2>if if I don't know how this would have gone

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:33.360
<v Speaker 2>down if we weren't here, because I don't know if

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 2>they would have kept doing it, but certainly more people

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 2>would have been very unwell or passed away like, I

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 2>think we can all think of a different medical emergency

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 2>where we've had to intervene to stop it getting much worse.

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like just last week, I think, did you come

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 3>out the day after something rained on all of us

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 3>and there was like a heavy downpour.

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 1>We weren't even ready.

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 3>We thought it was, oh, it might be like a

0:30:57.200 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 3>little drizzle or it might be light rain here, and

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 3>they're scattered. But then we set up and we're cooking

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 3>and getting ready for to do lunch or after breakfast

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 3>and getting ready to do our dinner and stuff, and

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 3>it just started downpouring on us. And I was driving

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 3>and I told you, oh, yeah, you showed up that

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 3>day and literally like we inter as we got to

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 3>we were like, oh fuck, we got to like move now.

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 3>So we just got all the ponchos that we had

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of ponchos, got them all in the car,

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 3>drove to the first camp that we had fed that morning,

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 3>and we're just started handing out ponchos as the rain's

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 3>coming down. They're walking in as you know, the coyotes

0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 3>dropped them off and that's a long hike had the

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Moon camp from where they end up to where they

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 3>break in the wall is thirty minute.

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Walk, yeah, so or so.

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 3>And so they are arriving in the pouring rain, their

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 3>socks are getting wet. It is super cold, especially at

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 3>Moon because of the location. It's just ridiculously cold, and

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 3>that's like case for hypothermia. And we're there to you know,

0:31:56.640 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 3>to stop them from getting so wet. We're giving them

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 3>trash bags for their bags, ponchos for their being their persons.

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 3>I remember seeing this little girl, she must have been

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 3>like five or six. And then we had cardboard and

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 3>because we didn't think it was going to be so

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 3>pouring before we when we loaded up the van and

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 3>we had cardboard to keep you know, the ground drive

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 3>for them to like lay on in their tents or whatever.

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 3>And people took the cardboard out of the van and

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 3>we're like blocking the rain and shielding this little child

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 3>from getting wet, you know. And it's super windy at

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Moon too, at that camp. It's the location. It gets

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 3>a lot of the the wind from uh whatever that passes, Yeah,

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 3>it comes up from Yeah.

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 2>I think anything you said, which we should probably touch on,

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 2>it's like perhaps it's because of the way we organize,

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 2>because we don't have like strict rolls jobs or low

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 2>leadership things. But like you'd mentioned it before, but like

0:32:57.240 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 2>nine times out of ten, we end up doing things

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 2>with people know people right, Like the other day, I know,

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 2>like a Kurdish guy and I set up a ton

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 2>of tents, Colombian dude, and I built this amazing shelter

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't for hit and his family, it was

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 2>for anyone who needed it.

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 4>I definitely have seen that sort of collaboration with the migrants,

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 4>and I feel like it doesn't feel like charity. It

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 4>feels like mutual aid. And on top of that, when

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm hearing from them, you know they you know, they're

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 4>helping us out. But then on top of that, they're saying,

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to get processed and I'm coming back, I'm helping,

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:34.120
<v Speaker 4>and I'm have you been in touch with anyone who

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 4>is who has come back yet?

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 2>Well? Yeah.

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 3>Actually, like early on in IRIS, when I was doing IRIS,

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 3>there was like a few people that were staying a

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 3>few days before they traveled onward and they just wanted

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 3>to be around and help. There was also a dude

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 3>we just called him Columbia because he was from Columbia,

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of that nickname stuck and he stuck around.

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean he got sponsored by pretty much loosely sponsored

0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 3>by one of the organizers that was helping out of

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 3>Wa and he stuck around. He came out to Ukumba

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of times. He killed it on everything he did,

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 3>cooking dishes, whatever, you know, cleaning up whatever. He just

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:12.359
<v Speaker 3>he just saw that need. And yeah, I mean I've

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:14.879
<v Speaker 3>been in contact with a couple of people that said

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:17.239
<v Speaker 3>they would come out, and you know, I don't pressure them.

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't and a A I wanted pressure them to

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:22.919
<v Speaker 3>come out because they came here for you know, better

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:24.839
<v Speaker 3>life and all that. But at the same time, it's

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:26.879
<v Speaker 3>just hard to get back to some people because I've

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 3>given them brought to way too many Kurdish people to

0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 3>get back to everyone on WhatsApp and that's you know,

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 3>I got signal, I got regular text.

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:35.800
<v Speaker 1>And then whatsappened That kind of gets buried.

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, there was some Afghan folks out here in September.

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 2>A few Afghan folks who would come out. I think

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:45.280
<v Speaker 2>they had arrived either in May or but perhaps earlier.

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 2>But there were some afcron folks who came out and

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:50.719
<v Speaker 2>we're able to help us. Of course, like it's great

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:52.879
<v Speaker 2>because we don't all have all the languages we need

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 2>and we don't have all the skills we need, and

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:57.440
<v Speaker 2>so the more people we can incorporate, even if temporarily

0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 2>well they're here, then like the better we can help people,

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 2>right right.

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, I mean, but I think definitely

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 3>the the the vibe is there that they want to

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:11.800
<v Speaker 3>come help. And yeah, like the other day I was feeding.

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:15.440
<v Speaker 3>We're doing a hot dinner and we set up and everything,

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 3>and then all these Kurdish people because I you know,

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:23.799
<v Speaker 3>will wear this caffee like a like a scuff yeah,

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 3>with the scarf that that you gave me, uh all

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 3>the way from Comishla, and so they recognize it.

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:34.400
<v Speaker 1>And then I know the saying is bji.

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 3>Kredistan when you know you're from Turkey, oh you Kurdish

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:40.400
<v Speaker 3>because most of the people from Turkey are Kurdish, not

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:43.320
<v Speaker 3>all the most, And so you know, we'll start talking

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 3>and then you know, they get all excited and then

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 3>they would just want to help, you know. And I

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 3>think even regardless of if I said that or not,

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 3>or had the scarf on, they would still just want

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:52.359
<v Speaker 3>to help.

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Remember one time I was surrounded.

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 3>It was just me serving one of the things, because

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 3>we'll serve multiple things water like a soup, and then

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 3>a rice or a bread or whatever, and then maybe

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 3>some hand wipes or something, and so we just had

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 3>it was just me in the middle, surrounded my Kurdish people,

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:08.319
<v Speaker 3>and I remember the dude next to me.

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 1>It was just like someone videotape.

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:15.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we Krittish people help really well, tell the world,

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 3>you know.

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:19.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then like even yeah, when we're not doing food,

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 2>So it's like guys will often come up to me

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:24.319
<v Speaker 2>and be like, hey, do you have bin bags? We'd

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:25.880
<v Speaker 2>like to clean up. We'd like it's a mess here

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 2>and we'd like to clean up.

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're unloading every time I'm loading, Like that's its

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 3>cellphone charging station. I want, Like it doesn't matter, you

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 3>know what nationality. Someone is there to help, They're like, oh,

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 3>can I grab the table? Can I do this? How

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:38.759
<v Speaker 3>can I plug this in? A lot of times are

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 3>plugging and I'm like, no, I got this a certain way.

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:43.080
<v Speaker 3>I like to plug this all in that makes sense

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 3>and relatively high risk activity. I don't want any electrocution or.

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Like the other day I was chopping some stuff with

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 2>an axe and guy wanted to help, and I was say,

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.000
<v Speaker 2>look if I hurt myself and I can get to hospital.

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 2>If you hurt yourself, it's going to be a rough.

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 3>That could have been a stick it out.

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:00.839
<v Speaker 1>He might purpose hurt himself at.

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:03.839
<v Speaker 2>That point he had his whole family. Yeah, but yeah,

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:06.839
<v Speaker 2>we build shelters, and like, some people are really good

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:08.399
<v Speaker 2>at that, and they're good at tying knots, and they're

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 2>good at seeing things at three D and some people

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 2>are not. So like, often just get a team of

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:14.879
<v Speaker 2>people who can help, and then you'll get a team

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 2>of people who need shelter. So we'll just career to

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 2>round building shelters for people. And it's fun. Like it

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 2>can't I'm sure it's not a very stimulating environment out there,

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:26.360
<v Speaker 2>you know. So being engaged in a talk, completing stuff

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 2>and helping people, I'm sure he's rewarding.

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 3>Or like, yeah, even tonight we had a dude from

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:34.359
<v Speaker 3>Turkey who just like was holding his head. Tia one

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:38.360
<v Speaker 3>of our local residents. She lives around here. Medically, she's

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:41.800
<v Speaker 3>doesn't have a whole lot of medical experience other.

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Than being a mother or a grandmother.

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 3>And working in as a pharmacy tech and knowing a

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 3>little bit about it and learning and being super badass.

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 3>She came to me and she's like, look, this guy

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 3>has a headache, he's a migraine and he has medication

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:57.760
<v Speaker 3>from TV. So this is obviously like an ongoing situation.

0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:01.879
<v Speaker 3>And my eyes were her just from all the smoke, yeah,

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 3>the fires that they were starting in the area, and

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:08.320
<v Speaker 3>he's just sitting there holding his head, clearly, just absolutely miserable.

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 3>So she took him in her car just to like

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 3>give some heater and to warm them up and to

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 3>try to make him feel better, get him away from

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:16.879
<v Speaker 3>the smoke. And she's like, yo, we got to get

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.760
<v Speaker 3>this guy. He's here traveling alone from Turkey. He doesn't

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 3>have anybody. So we went and found some more and

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 3>I think he was Kurdish as well. We went and

0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:29.440
<v Speaker 3>found another Turkish person or Kurdish person from Turkey, and

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 3>I grabbed this person and I was like, hey, I

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:35.839
<v Speaker 3>have somebody here who has a gnarly migraine and they

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 3>just they need their heir alone.

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 1>They don't have shelter they need.

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 3>And so this guy came over and talked to him

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:42.399
<v Speaker 3>and was like look, I got we got a tent

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 3>over here, come camp with us. Like that's the kind

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 3>of shit that we have to deal with, you know

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 3>what I mean, Just like the migrants will like getting

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:51.920
<v Speaker 3>a migrant to help another migrant, you know, it's just

0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 3>like it's community. That's what like mutual aid is about.

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 4>I think that and that specific situation, I had been

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 4>talking to the group that took him in. I'd been

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:04.359
<v Speaker 4>talking with them and chatting with him, and I sat

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:06.319
<v Speaker 4>by the fire with them just talking about you know,

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:08.919
<v Speaker 4>what was your experience like, and trying to get warm

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 4>because God, it's cold out there, even for us volunteers,

0:39:11.719 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 4>and you know, we're far away from the fires, and

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 4>it's really hard because you know, this road is cleared

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 4>and so there's you know, there's no warmth out there

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 4>by where they have to stand to get food. But

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 4>what I what I wanted to highlight was that because

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 4>we are interacting with these people as equals, because we

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:33.880
<v Speaker 4>are coming here and seeing them as people, and we

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 4>spend the time to talk with them and to build

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 4>commune with them, we can build those connections which allow

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 4>people like the gentleman with the migraine to you know,

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 4>be taken in and to have you know, basically a

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 4>temporary family while he's there and make sure that he's

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 4>taken care of. And that's I think something that really

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 4>highlights the strength of this type of organization and this

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:02.400
<v Speaker 4>type of work, type of you know, the way that

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:07.279
<v Speaker 4>our politics, the way that our ideals really shine in

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:08.240
<v Speaker 4>this kind of setting.

0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's right. Like I've been around a lot of

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 2>humanitarian crises and you know, refuse situations, and I think

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 2>we're doing it really excellent. Do you have a stectually

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:21.839
<v Speaker 2>Given the minimal funding and and sort of scale of

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 2>access to resources we have, we could do a lot

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 2>more if we had a lot more money, but we don't.

0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, we're cooking on like a fucking burners us. Yeah, bro,

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:35.400
<v Speaker 3>we took up to a propaneting that's made out of

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 3>an old cag that's just like if you turn it

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 3>on wrong and let the gas bleed, you will blow

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:44.319
<v Speaker 3>yourself up. So it's just like like Sam shuw is

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:46.799
<v Speaker 3>you know, responsible for everybody at the youth center where

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.280
<v Speaker 3>we do stuff. So he doesn't really like other people cooking,

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 3>does it. I mean, even though I know how to

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:52.279
<v Speaker 3>do it, He's like doesn't even like me doing it

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:54.720
<v Speaker 3>because he's responsible for me if anything were to happen.

0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 3>So it's like our capacity is super limited. We don't

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:00.400
<v Speaker 3>have enough burners, we don't have enough containers. We have

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:03.399
<v Speaker 3>a couple one really nice like locking containers that hold

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:05.399
<v Speaker 3>hot food and keep the food hot, but not enough

0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 3>to serve upwards of six hundred people at all three camps,

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:12.799
<v Speaker 3>and not enough vans, like it would be ideal, like

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:16.520
<v Speaker 3>in my situation to send a van that has charging

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 3>capabilities to charge everybody's cell phone, to feed everybody, to

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 3>give them water and all their needs, blankets, medical to

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:25.439
<v Speaker 3>each camp all at once.

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Instead of us driving, it's.

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 3>Cooking a massive amount of food of the UTH center

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 3>and hoping we have enough to hit all three camps.

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Because the numbers we can try to call border patrol

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 3>offices and get numbers, but the numbers are always a

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:40.600
<v Speaker 3>little skewed or just off, you know, or sometimes lately

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:43.360
<v Speaker 3>they have just been straight up not giving us the

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 3>fucking numbers, like being dicks, especially uh Campo Border Patrol Office,

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 3>which because we deal with two different Campo takes care

0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 3>of the Boulevard open air detention site and then the boulevard.

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 3>Border Patrol takes care of the willows.

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 1>In the moon camp in a kumba and.

0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:08.799
<v Speaker 3>Straight up the boulevard Port of Patrol called Campo Nazis.

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Like they treat their employees like Nats. They're just Nazis,

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:12.800
<v Speaker 3>and I've seen it in fact.

0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, like we have to interact with board

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Patrol a lot to get people the help that they need, right,

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:21.399
<v Speaker 2>but like, yeah, they're definitely some cases where like there

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:23.480
<v Speaker 2>have been certain people who are much like they they

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:26.919
<v Speaker 2>the agent I spoke to today for a Border Pol agent,

0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 2>he was very accommodating. He took the person who was

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:32.520
<v Speaker 2>in medical distress and their partner, He drove them himself

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:36.040
<v Speaker 2>to where they could be ms and ensure that the

0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 2>pretunity they go to hospital, Like I don't have a

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:40.799
<v Speaker 2>whole lot of knowledge what happened afterwards that we don't have.

0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 2>We're not entitled to their private medical information and not

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.840
<v Speaker 2>should we be. But like other times, it could be

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 2>much harder. So it's just luck of the drawer, right,

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Like we there's so much we don't control, I guess, yeah,

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 2>and like we don't know exactly, Like we can't control

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 2>who goes when, who has the highest level of knee

0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, like constantly people will be coming up to

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 2>me and being like, hey, like today I was warming

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 2>up milk for babies in my camping stuff, right, and

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 2>it was three or four babies, and they were like,

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 2>do you think they'll take us first? We have babies,

0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 2>And like I think most of the people there would

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:15.400
<v Speaker 2>rather give up their space and let that baby go

0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 2>out because no one wants to see a fucking baby

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:21.560
<v Speaker 2>shivering out there like it's fucked, it's terrible, but we

0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 2>don't know, and we can't tell you and we can't

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 2>help you, and so like a lot of that stuff's

0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:29.360
<v Speaker 2>outside of our control. But the stuff that's within our control,

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:32.040
<v Speaker 2>I think we've done a really good job of I

0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:35.360
<v Speaker 2>wonder like if people are listening. I think I just

0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 2>want to convey that we're all just weird, like a

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:42.840
<v Speaker 2>group of like we're not like Ragca extremely like Motley Crewe,

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 2>and but we're really doing excellent work. I think if

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:49.719
<v Speaker 2>it may blow our trumpet, but like if people want

0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:52.400
<v Speaker 2>to come and help, first of all, I would like

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:56.440
<v Speaker 2>you probably can. People think that they can't, they don't

0:43:56.440 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 2>have anything useful, Like I promise you do, Like if

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:01.840
<v Speaker 2>you can, if you can like lift a ladle or

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 2>like a palette of water bottles, or drive a vehicle, or.

0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Multiple multiple languages, sometimes it's like yeah you want or

0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:14.920
<v Speaker 3>even just right, or even just one language other than English,

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 3>because I mean even some people speak perfectly English out there,

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:21.799
<v Speaker 3>and so just going out there and paying attention to them,

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 3>even if you don't have the capacity to cook food

0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 3>or to serve food or whatever, if you can go

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:30.040
<v Speaker 3>talk to people and you're sociable and you can make

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:32.439
<v Speaker 3>connections and listen to their needs. And you know, there's

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:35.799
<v Speaker 3>Google Translate, there's we have a list of translators, like

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:39.400
<v Speaker 3>a form with numbers, so if you have a language barrier,

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 3>you can just call start calling down the line of

0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:44.360
<v Speaker 3>numbers of Mandarin or this language or that language, and

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 3>you can get I got a hold of somebody one

0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 3>time for Mandarin to figure out how many days they

0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 3>had been there, and it was like called a couple

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 3>of people, first no answer, and then finally someone picked up,

0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 3>and so it's yeah, you know, anybody, there's always you

0:44:56.440 --> 0:45:00.479
<v Speaker 3>could always find something. Honestly, one thing that I make doing,

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 3>which when I first started coming out here, we had

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:05.799
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more volunteers, especially I was coming out

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:08.920
<v Speaker 3>on the weekends, when weekends typically we have more volunteers

0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 3>because people have jobs in the weekdays, and week days

0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:13.840
<v Speaker 3>we have less. But I was when I first started

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 3>coming out to Hookumba on the weekends, I started bringing

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:21.239
<v Speaker 3>my guitar and my bongos and my you know, different instruments, tambourines,

0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:23.360
<v Speaker 3>and I we gave out all the instruments to the

0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 3>migrants at night while we were giving them dinner to

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:28.600
<v Speaker 3>they were around the campfire and so that they can

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:31.759
<v Speaker 3>play and enjoy themselves and lift their spirits and so

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:34.320
<v Speaker 3>like that would be rad to have somebody on spot

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:36.840
<v Speaker 3>all the time with a guitar and like jamming with

0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:39.840
<v Speaker 3>the migrants and lifting their spirits because it's they're miserable.

0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:43.839
<v Speaker 3>And one dude from Muzbekistan once sold me. Spoke really

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 3>good English, and in fact he told me about there's

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:47.399
<v Speaker 3>like commercials and so he.

0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Worked at like a center where they send people over here.

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:51.399
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:53.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like he was on the call center or whatever

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:54.759
<v Speaker 3>for it or something like that.

0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:57.040
<v Speaker 1>But well, I was like, well, like how was it?

0:45:57.120 --> 0:45:59.760
<v Speaker 3>Like I he was like, honestly, we're just bored. Yeah,

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:02.440
<v Speaker 3>they're just waiting and at that time, like the weights

0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:06.560
<v Speaker 3>were like four or five days. You know, it changes,

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 3>it vary as it goes from two to three to

0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 3>four or five, and the dissensions and sometimes they get

0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:14.920
<v Speaker 3>out the same day if they're lucky. But yeah, it

0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:17.960
<v Speaker 3>was just we're bored and we're just waiting and they're anxious,

0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:20.520
<v Speaker 3>and which also just tears at their spirit while they're

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:23.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, their first day in America, you know.

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, Yeah, like welcome to America, sleeping with jesseet.

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:28.680
<v Speaker 2>It's like just above freezing.

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:33.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and here's no blankets, no structures, no anything, no food,

0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:36.800
<v Speaker 3>no water. If your lucky, Border patrol will bring crackers

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:38.560
<v Speaker 3>and water for not enough people.

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and yeah, a bunch of US waiters turn up

0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:43.040
<v Speaker 2>with blankets and that's it.

0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:44.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:47.800
<v Speaker 4>And I know that even if it's you know, I

0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 4>try and include other people. But even just like I

0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:53.920
<v Speaker 4>go out there with my guitar sometimes and there's a

0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:56.280
<v Speaker 4>lull and or we're waiting to pack up or whatever,

0:46:56.320 --> 0:46:59.920
<v Speaker 4>and I'll be playing and I think the little moments

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:04.200
<v Speaker 4>like that mean everything for these folks. And I know

0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:06.640
<v Speaker 4>that I've you know, I'll bring up that I have,

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:08.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, on a day that I don't have my guitar,

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:11.200
<v Speaker 4>I'll bring up that I play it and the migrants

0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 4>will be all excited, wanting me to bring it out

0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:16.480
<v Speaker 4>or wanting me to to you know, whatever the activity

0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:20.800
<v Speaker 4>may be, just to to stimulate, you know, their minds

0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:23.959
<v Speaker 4>a little bit. I mean, this is it's it's really

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:30.800
<v Speaker 4>bleak and being there for for days, for just stuck

0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:34.440
<v Speaker 4>in the desert with nothing to do, right, And I

0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:37.040
<v Speaker 4>mean sometimes, you know, I've seen a soccer ball out

0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 4>there that the kids play with, and that's that's so

0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 4>heartwight warming. Things like that that really, you know, we

0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:46.319
<v Speaker 4>want these people to feel like they can still be

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:49.560
<v Speaker 4>in community with each other like they're not. And I

0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 4>feel like things like that really.

0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:51.759
<v Speaker 1>Help to.

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:57.840
<v Speaker 4>Repair that sense of desperation, because right now, with the

0:47:57.920 --> 0:47:59.720
<v Speaker 4>level of desperation, we do see a lot of fighting

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:01.920
<v Speaker 4>for some applies, a lot of fighting for resources because

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 4>it's it's hard. It's hard out there. People want to

0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:09.440
<v Speaker 4>make sure that their kids have blankets. People are so

0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 4>cold they can't sleep, And I feel like things that

0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:18.239
<v Speaker 4>bring them together, activities that really make them feel like

0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:22.200
<v Speaker 4>a community out there and help us feel in community

0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:25.560
<v Speaker 4>with them, allows us to have a more cohesive relationship

0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:28.840
<v Speaker 4>and allows things to go more smoothly. And I think it's,

0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, in some cases, more important than the supplies themselves,

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 4>because it makes sure that they go to the right places.

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:38.560
<v Speaker 4>It helps us triage, it helps us, you know, it's

0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 4>its own tool for survival.

0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:46.120
<v Speaker 3>It could distract them from their suffering, you know, if

0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:48.759
<v Speaker 3>they can have an ounce of joy, you know, and

0:48:48.840 --> 0:48:52.480
<v Speaker 3>this horrible condition, in these horrible conditions, that it'll distract

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:56.200
<v Speaker 3>them enough to smile and to laugh and to not

0:48:56.280 --> 0:48:57.040
<v Speaker 3>be miserable.

0:48:57.400 --> 0:48:59.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have a normal moment. Yeah. So I wonder

0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:03.600
<v Speaker 2>if people want to help, what are the ways that

0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:04.720
<v Speaker 2>they can help.

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 3>Ways it can help are are coming out here directly,

0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:10.040
<v Speaker 3>hands on the ground.

0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Money donating money.

0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:16.920
<v Speaker 3>Is another huge need because a lot of the supplies

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:19.120
<v Speaker 3>that we need cost money.

0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:22.440
<v Speaker 1>We need a new kitchen, we need, you know, a.

0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:26.520
<v Speaker 3>Dishwashing station because we're currently just dumping all of our

0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:33.319
<v Speaker 3>dish washing water into a lawn that has a small drain. Yeah,

0:49:33.360 --> 0:49:38.280
<v Speaker 3>and yeah, a Loolato is one organization that takes money

0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 3>that you can donate to. Border Kindness is another one. Yeah,

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:46.480
<v Speaker 3>I know, Detention Resistance is out here. A lot the

0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 3>most direct way to is would be donating directly to

0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:56.360
<v Speaker 3>Sam Schultz himself. So yeah, and just you know, following

0:49:57.400 --> 0:50:00.480
<v Speaker 3>those same organizations, they're a free shit. Color Active is

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:03.680
<v Speaker 3>another one. They mostly focus on W eight. But this

0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:06.600
<v Speaker 3>is all related, right, Like I we had this man

0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:10.799
<v Speaker 3>from Turkey who came with his dog Bom bomb or

0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:13.279
<v Speaker 3>bam bam like he said flintstones, but they say bomb bomb,

0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 3>I guess. And he was stuck in one of the camps,

0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:21.640
<v Speaker 3>and so you know, we like took his dog because

0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:23.480
<v Speaker 3>he was not going to be taken from the camp.

0:50:23.520 --> 0:50:26.239
<v Speaker 3>He spent the night alone because they had enough room

0:50:26.239 --> 0:50:27.880
<v Speaker 3>for him. They's like, they don't know how to process

0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:30.640
<v Speaker 3>a fucking dog, I guess. So we took his dog

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:33.120
<v Speaker 3>for him and so he could get processed. And once

0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:36.400
<v Speaker 3>he ended up out of detention at Central, which is

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:40.320
<v Speaker 3>where they released them, we reunited his dog with him.

0:50:40.440 --> 0:50:43.280
<v Speaker 3>Very emotional on both sides of the separation.

0:50:42.920 --> 0:50:47.400
<v Speaker 1>And the reuniting. So you know, there's all these organizations.

0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:49.960
<v Speaker 3>You can you know, volunteer down in Central at the

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:54.000
<v Speaker 3>when they release you can you know there's and so yeah,

0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:56.600
<v Speaker 3>but following all these accounts sharing the stories, you know

0:50:56.600 --> 0:50:59.680
<v Speaker 3>what I mean on your social media, be it Twitter,

0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:04.600
<v Speaker 3>all re call it the other thing or you know, Instagram, Facebook,

0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:07.440
<v Speaker 3>whatever your media is. Discord YadA YadA.

0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think even sharing my stories is really powerful.

0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:13.600
<v Speaker 2>People could translate, they can reach out, they want to

0:51:13.640 --> 0:51:16.640
<v Speaker 2>do that. I looked up the r L it's for

0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:21.120
<v Speaker 2>border Kindness. It's link tr dot e e slash border Kindness,

0:51:21.560 --> 0:51:26.040
<v Speaker 2>and for it's altlado a l O t r O

0:51:26.560 --> 0:51:30.839
<v Speaker 2>l a d o dot org slash donate And.

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:33.040
<v Speaker 1>They pay me to be out here, so please don't

0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:33.440
<v Speaker 1>it to them.

0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:37.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, help them and border kindas. Jackie and James

0:51:37.239 --> 0:51:38.680
<v Speaker 3>are great, They're always out here.

0:51:38.840 --> 0:51:40.880
<v Speaker 1>It's either one is wonderful.

0:51:42.239 --> 0:51:45.320
<v Speaker 4>I also wanted to highlight the lovely mutual aid groups

0:51:45.360 --> 0:51:48.160
<v Speaker 4>that do a lot of work. There's not as many

0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 4>of them directly putting their efforts out here, but I

0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:53.400
<v Speaker 4>know that they have helped me work out here and

0:51:53.440 --> 0:51:55.360
<v Speaker 4>make sure that I have the funds I need to,

0:51:56.560 --> 0:51:59.520
<v Speaker 4>you know, do little store runs that are necessary on

0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:01.920
<v Speaker 4>a on a moment's notice at times because we we

0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:04.400
<v Speaker 4>run out of something and we can't wait for a

0:52:04.400 --> 0:52:08.960
<v Speaker 4>bulk order supply and the you know, there there are

0:52:09.000 --> 0:52:11.239
<v Speaker 4>these mutual aid groups. You know, they they put in

0:52:11.239 --> 0:52:15.279
<v Speaker 4>the work to reimburse folks when we do things like that,

0:52:15.360 --> 0:52:18.920
<v Speaker 4>when we have to go make runs because we can't

0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:21.600
<v Speaker 4>bulk order, we can't do it the most efficient way

0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:25.319
<v Speaker 4>because we have a need right now. And that has

0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:28.719
<v Speaker 4>saved us in a lot of different moments, especially I

0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:31.920
<v Speaker 4>used to volunteer down at W eight in Sandy Cidro

0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:35.839
<v Speaker 4>and that was the primary way that we got resources

0:52:36.880 --> 0:52:42.160
<v Speaker 4>was through these mutual aid groups who who fundraised and

0:52:42.160 --> 0:52:44.320
<v Speaker 4>and I yeah, I just wanted to highlight them and

0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:49.840
<v Speaker 4>highlight the So there's the Rose Cute Collective. I know

0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 4>that they do a lot of fundraising. I know that

0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:56.600
<v Speaker 4>you were saying free Ship, Free Shit Collective. Yeah. Uh,

0:52:56.800 --> 0:53:00.160
<v Speaker 4>there's a few Freestore SD Yeah, there's a there's a

0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:04.399
<v Speaker 4>few different ones who you know, their funds help keep

0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:08.279
<v Speaker 4>us running, especially in the hardest of times right now.

0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:10.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because we're all broke.

0:53:11.440 --> 0:53:15.320
<v Speaker 4>We're so broke, we have no money, have any money.

0:53:15.960 --> 0:53:18.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm on the migrant diet because I'm broke, and I'm

0:53:18.560 --> 0:53:21.200
<v Speaker 3>just eating the food that we feed them when there's leftovers.

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, we've been a lot of peb and j

0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:27.200
<v Speaker 2>and beans help us, help us feed ourselves and that

0:53:27.560 --> 0:53:30.960
<v Speaker 2>was wonderful. Thank you so much. Yeah, everyone listening to

0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:31.160
<v Speaker 2>you do.

0:53:31.239 --> 0:53:31.759
<v Speaker 1>Name, thank you.

0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and come down here. If someone came from San

0:53:35.160 --> 0:53:38.719
<v Speaker 2>Francisco in May, come back, Like there are places you

0:53:38.719 --> 0:53:40.200
<v Speaker 2>can stay are in the desert if you want to

0:53:40.200 --> 0:53:42.520
<v Speaker 2>come and help. But even if you have language skills

0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:45.319
<v Speaker 2>like we there were so many ways you can help.

0:53:45.880 --> 0:53:50.040
<v Speaker 4>Come down. I've always had a place to stay, even

0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:52.960
<v Speaker 4>though I like, like of all I've I've always been

0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:54.600
<v Speaker 4>ready to sleep in my van, but always had a

0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:59.000
<v Speaker 4>spot to say, come down. It's you know, it's worth it.

0:53:59.000 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 4>It's there's a vortex that's not coming they called the

0:54:03.120 --> 0:54:05.120
<v Speaker 4>locals call it, call it of vortex. You know. You

0:54:05.320 --> 0:54:08.560
<v Speaker 4>you come here and it's like every past lifetime has

0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:11.879
<v Speaker 4>has been here and you're destined to be here. There's

0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:14.719
<v Speaker 4>something special about this town and I've really fallen in

0:54:14.719 --> 0:54:15.680
<v Speaker 4>love with it since coming.

0:54:16.320 --> 0:54:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I hope we'll be boogum. It would mean

0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:21.440
<v Speaker 2>a lot to me if like we could do something

0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:24.520
<v Speaker 2>cool and like further support something that's very important to

0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:26.000
<v Speaker 2>me and I think very important for the world.

0:54:26.880 --> 0:54:28.319
<v Speaker 1>Totally. It's sick.

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