1 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: This is the official show here on the fish Strips 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: podcast channel. It's me as usual, Eli Susman with you 3 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: for This is going to be an abbreviated episode, a 4 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: fly by the seat of my pants episode, and one 5 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: that is somewhat of a secret episode. I'm not going 6 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: to go out of my way to promote it on 7 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: our main website, fistrips dot com or on our social 8 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: media accounts. Partly that's because I'll be pretty busy on 9 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: Friday when it goes up with some other commitments, but 10 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: also because this is a final last chance for this 11 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: microphone that I've been using for over a year now. 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: I've been noticing on some past recordings, almost all past recordings, 13 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: that there's this weird periodic buzzing sound that happens every 14 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: couple of minutes. That's annoying and I find in terms 15 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: of quality suran it's not up to the standards that 16 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: I want. So if that buzzing sound appears in this episode, 17 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: and I'll notice it as soon as I finished recording that, 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: if that still can't get shaking it out of the system, 19 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna take the plunge and invest in a 20 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: new microphone to overcome that issue and give you guys 21 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: a better quality product. This is of course going to 22 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: be talking about the Miami Marlins, as we often do, 23 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: and in particular, we finally got an official roster move 24 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: in transaction on Thursday, the first one in several weeks. 25 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: The first half of that transaction entirely predictable, the announcement 26 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: that Anthony Bass has signed a two year deal with 27 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: the team. It even came along with a special intro 28 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: video from the Marlins account themselves. You could clown them 29 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: all you want for like trying to make a big 30 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: deal of signing a set up reliever and one Anthony Bass, 31 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: who's been fairly anonymous up to this point of his career. 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: But it is the biggest outside addition to the roster 33 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: this offseason, something definitely that unequivocally makes the team better 34 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: than it would have been if they had not signed him. 35 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 2: Anomy Bass has come back out for his second ending 36 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: the Blue Jays and out away from a victory three two, again. 37 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: Popped it up. 38 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: And the Blue Jays find a way to. 39 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: Win the game. My first impressions of Anthony Bass are 40 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: pretty positive in terms of who he is and the 41 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: somewhat interesting upside that he has despite being a little 42 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: bit older. We've discussed this on the website a couple 43 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: of articles about him that you could check out, as 44 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: well as some of the highlights we've been posting on 45 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: social media. Overall, pretty efficient signing and a positive one. 46 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: The newsworthy aspect of this is the corresponding roster move, 47 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: because the Marlins all off season have had a forty 48 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: man roster crunch. Every single time they've sought to make 49 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: any sort of improvement, somebody has to come off the roster. 50 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: You just have too many intriguing players and you need 51 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: to make difficult choices and leave those players subject to 52 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: going to other teams. You just can't buy the rules. 53 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: This is a rule that I like in baseball that 54 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: you know, they just prevent you from hoarding too much talent, 55 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: too much affordable, efficient talent. And with Marlins, the odd 56 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: man out in this situation is right hander Jordan Yamamoto. 57 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: I found it mildly surprising because I've done my best 58 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: to foresee prognosticate who the the players in DFA danger 59 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: are players that are in danger of being designated for 60 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: simon at any given time, and give you a little 61 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: heads up as to why I think those players could 62 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: be especially expendable, and young Moto was not on the 63 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: top of my list for a while now. It's been 64 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: Jeff Brigham. Brigham, being as soon to be twenty nine 65 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: year old reliever who barely pitched it all last year, 66 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: was inherited from old Marlin's ownership, whereas young Mamoto is 67 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: more than four years younger than Brigham. He as recently 68 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: as I mean pretty much, with the exception of one 69 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: outing in his Marlin's career, he's been exclusively a starting 70 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: pitcher at the major league level. He's one that had 71 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: a fair amount of success, especially at the start of 72 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: his major league career in mid twenty nineteen. He still 73 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: has a minor league option left. For what it's worth, 74 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: his intangibles seem to be strong. He's a good quality teammate, 75 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: he's a marketable guy, and he's I mean overall, just 76 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: the fact that the particular roots that brought him to 77 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: the organization. I feel that context matters as well, the 78 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: fact that he was part of the Christian Yellis trade, 79 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: and I think any way you slice it, he has 80 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: been the most successful of those players in the Yellows 81 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: trade East San Diaz won a Minor League Player of 82 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: the Year award. Lewis Brinson was had the most prominent 83 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: role in this twenty twenty postseason run. But I mean, 84 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: neither them nor Monte Harrison have had the string of 85 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: major league success that Yamamoto had for his first few 86 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: weeks in the majors. Overall numbers are underwhelming. I think 87 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: I'd posted them before that his career so far in 88 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: the major leagues nineteen appearances eighteen of them starts, a 89 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: six twenty era, a five to four to four fielder, 90 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: independent pitching, and barely over replacement level overall production to 91 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: this point, although a good strikeout rate overall, especially for 92 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: a guy that has almost been exclusively in a starting role. 93 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: Of course, those numbers are very severely skewed by what 94 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: happened in twenty twenty where I mean, this may feel 95 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: like ancient history, but at this time, a year ago, 96 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: he had the it was his starting rotation spot to 97 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: lose entering twenty twenty with the Marlins. It was, in 98 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: no particular order, Sandy and Pablo Urina and Caleb Smith. 99 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: Those were your four quote unquote veteran starters, I guess, 100 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: and Yamamoto was the front runner for the fifth and 101 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: final rotation spot coming out of spring training. COVID shut 102 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: things down for a few months. We came back to 103 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: some camp and Yamamoto was once again, you know, at 104 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: ahead of that race for the fifth spot. It was 105 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: very much a competition, like we were aware that was 106 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: no lock that Yamamoto would be in there, but he 107 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: had shown enough as a rookie in twenty nineteen where 108 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 1: he was more or less a league average starting pitcher, 109 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: you know, not replacement level, but league average, like almost 110 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: mid rotation quality performance in twenty nineteen four and a 111 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: half ERA four and a half fielder independent pitching, striking 112 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: out twenty five percent of batter's faced and some of 113 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: that was driven by some good luck his batting average 114 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: on balls and play. Some of his situational performance didn't 115 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: seem sustainable. I mean, yeah, there were some red flags, 116 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: of course, and he did have a rough stretch there 117 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: right before missing time with an injury, and we're going 118 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: to get to that part of it as well. But 119 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: all in all, I mean, he was a guy that 120 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,559 Speaker 1: for his first couple of years in the organization twenty 121 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: eighteen in the minors and then twenty nineteen split between 122 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: Double A and the Major that he was a success story, 123 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: an unconventional success story. The reason why they were able 124 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: to get him in the trade in the first place 125 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: as a like a throw in piece, is because he's 126 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: undersized relative to a conventional starter, listed at six feet 127 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: even one hundred and eighty five pounds, and his early 128 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: minor league track record was up and down, and with 129 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: the Brewers' farm system his first few years. But that 130 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: being said, I mean their performance kind of spoke for 131 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,119 Speaker 1: itself his first year in the organization and then even 132 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: at times in twenty nineteen as well that he was performing. 133 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: He had a very diverse pitch mix. His fastball velocity 134 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: was below average every step of the way, but he 135 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: was able to throw strikes relatively consistently, and just the 136 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: diversity of off speed pitches that he had, in particular 137 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: his slider, which I feel as a prospect was not 138 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: hyped all that much, but since it's been in the 139 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: major leagues, his slider has been one of the better 140 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: individual pitches that any Marlin's pitcher has had. So that 141 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:04,119 Speaker 1: gives you a pretty solid base in terms of actually 142 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: being a valuable member of an organization. I mean, to 143 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: top it all off, even being undersized, he's a guy 144 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: that twenty sixteen in the minor leagues, he threw one 145 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty four innings. In twenty nineteen between Double 146 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: A and the majors, he threw one hundred and forty 147 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: four innings, and those endings add up over the course 148 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: of a season. You need a certain number of pitchers 149 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: to get you through the year overall, and he was 150 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: a guy that, despite some injuries, he says to them, 151 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: a pretty impressive single season ennings pitched totals that you 152 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: can't totally dismiss. But that brings us to twenty twenty itself. 153 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: As I said, he was entering the season with that 154 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: inside track of like being in the rotation, hanging on 155 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: to the fifth spot, and as soon as things started 156 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: in summer camp in late June early July, he just faded. 157 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: He faded and faded. And it was mildly surprising when 158 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: they announced that eliez Er Hernandez was going to get 159 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: his rotation spot coming out of camp and they were 160 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: going to send down Yamamoto. And the original comments coming 161 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: from Don Mattingly were vague about Yamamoto. Like why he 162 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: didn't win that final spot, and he kept referring to 163 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: his conditioning. They didn't feel that he was like fully 164 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: stretched out to be a starter. Not that they I mean, 165 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: there's only so many opportunities he had to actually face 166 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: live hitters during summer camp, but they just felt that 167 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: his stuff and his stamina was not there for whatever reason. 168 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: Unfortunately for him in the organization that he was exposed. 169 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: He was an emergency call up when the COVID outbreak 170 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: came for the Marlins right during that first road trip 171 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: of the season. He had to be brought up in 172 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: early August. To what I guess, he went straight to Baltimore, 173 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: but he made his first appearance in yeah, the first 174 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: week of August as an emergency fill into the rotation 175 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: because they had lost Reinya and they'd lost Sandy, and 176 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: they had lost Caleb to COVID, and Yamamoto was up 177 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: next on the depth chart. And his twenty twenty season 178 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: was really historically non competitive. It's hard to really come 179 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: up with the proper adjectives to describe just how uncomfortable 180 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: he looked and how just unable to perform he was 181 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: in all of his appearances and totally made four appearances 182 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: during the year, back to back to back starts in 183 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: August as that emergency fillin got sent down, got called 184 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: up again in September, and very infamous appearance set a 185 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: Marlins record for most runs allowed in a single pitching 186 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: appearance as part of that twenty nine to nine blowout 187 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: loss to the Braves. That will go down. This is 188 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: and most likely that was go down. This his final 189 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: appearance in a Marlins uniform. 190 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 2: And he hits one high in the ear toward left. 191 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: Look at that ball carry toward the fence. At the 192 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 2: fence time is gone out a Duvall with another home run. 193 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 2: This is unbelievable because. 194 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: Where we are right now, he just got designated for assignment. 195 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: The Marlins have a seven day window to decide what 196 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: to do with him, well, not necessarily to decide, but 197 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: first they need to put him on waivers, and all 198 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: the teams in the league will one by one have 199 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: an opportunity to claim him off waivers, and then they 200 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: can negotiate with those teams and hopefully arrange a trade. 201 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: And I'm not exactly sure what his value is going 202 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: to be at this time, because they are selling him 203 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: at the absolute nature of his value. According to Baseball 204 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: Trade Values, they approximate him at as non assets at 205 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: this point, a zero point one surplus value one hundred 206 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: thousand dollars at surplus value. The kind of guy that 207 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: might just get claimed on waivers by some team and 208 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: without necessarily bringing you anything back in return. He's difficult 209 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: to gauge right now just because of how bad that 210 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: year was, but something's working to his advantage. Some of 211 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: the reasons why I don't like the Marlins putting Yamamoto 212 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: in this position in the first place is, I guess, 213 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: first of all, is age, the fact they're still just 214 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: twenty four years old. A guy that, even though he 215 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: doesn't rely much on his physicality that one of the 216 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: big red flags coming out of this twenty twenty season 217 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: was that his fastball velocity, which is already kind of 218 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: mediocre by major league standards, plunged even more. His fastball 219 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: wasn't even averaging ninety miles per hour. There's some individual 220 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: games where he was sitting eighty seven eighty eight with 221 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: his fastball, which if you're a right hander and you're 222 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: sitting at that kind of velocity and you're not commanding it, 223 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: precisely you're gonna get hammered. That's exactly what happened with him. 224 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: So I get the first big question for them for 225 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 1: the Marlins when evaluating him, is determining whether they think 226 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: he could get that velocity back as a starter, because 227 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: this seemingly caught them by surprise when they were heading 228 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: to camp for the twenty twenty season, that they were 229 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: expecting how Momoto to be that front runner to slide 230 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: into that fifth rotation spot, and his stuff wasn't there, 231 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: and in particular, he just wasn't throwing as hard to 232 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: give him the same margin for error with the rest 233 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: of his pitch mix. So I guess the big question, 234 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: the first big question the Marlins would have to add 235 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: for themselves is whether or not they think he can 236 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: regain that velocity. And I imagine they just didn't seem 237 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: all that confident, whether it's something physical with him or 238 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: with his work ethic, that they had concerns they had 239 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: some doubts about him regaining the stuff that he had 240 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. I mean, the unknowable question, the one 241 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: that we can't really answer from the outside, is what 242 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: could sort of concerns they had about his health status 243 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: and his injury history. This is a guy that in 244 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen he was dominant in the Marlins minor league system. 245 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: He would have made a nice run at Marlins Minor 246 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: League Pitcher of the Year if he had been healthier, 247 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: But he only made like thirteen starts that year, about 248 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: a half a minor league season, because he missed time 249 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: with a shoulder issue and so then sidelined him for 250 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: a couple of months. It didn't require any surgery, but 251 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: a lot of downtime. Then in twenty nineteen, he was 252 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: seemingly had a nice hold on a rotation spot with 253 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: the Marlins, even though he was struggling a little as 254 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: that rookie season went on, But then he was sidelined 255 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: by a forearm strain. For I believe it was close 256 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: to a month that he missed with a forearms train, 257 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: which all things considered, was relatively mild injury in that case. 258 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: But yet again it's his arm, and it's a second 259 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: straight year missing time with something like that, And this 260 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: is where it's It's very interesting with the Marlins because 261 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: they have made some huge investments in players kind of 262 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: undersized starting pitching candidates, the first one being the JT. 263 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: Real Muto trade, accepting six oh Sanchez back as the 264 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: centerpiece of that trade. Six Tozho being a guy that 265 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: was generally extremely highly regarded in the industry as one 266 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: of the top prospects. But get is just unconventional because 267 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: he was just like Yamamoto, about six feet tall, and honestly, 268 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: he may be even a little bit shorter the Yamamoto 269 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: is without being particularly well toned with his physique, it's 270 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: always been a little bit overweight based on what we 271 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: generally see as an athletic build. And then most recently 272 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: with Max Meyer, I mean technically that was an even 273 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: bigger investment, making Max Meyer their number three overall pick 274 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty draft, giving him a signing bonus 275 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: well over six million dollars for a guy that is 276 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: also listed around six feet tall. And these are pictures 277 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: that there's just not all that many of them that 278 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: you see around the majors. That have long, successful careers 279 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: as starting pitchers, they tend to get reimagines and filtered 280 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: into a relief role eventually because of whether it's actual 281 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: injuries or just as a precautionary step in anticipation of 282 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: them getting injured. So this is an organization that doesn't 283 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: let those generally, doesn't let those sort of very conventional 284 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: thinking prevent them from going after the best available player. 285 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: And I'm sure it had a factor and the reason 286 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: why Yamamoto wasn't really on the prospect radar when the 287 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: Marlins acquired him, and yet his performance kind of boosted 288 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: him up the Marlins prospect ranks leading up to when 289 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: he was finally called up to the majors. But this 290 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: is just a long way of saying that just because 291 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: Marlins aren't very confident in pictures talent sometimes superseding their 292 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: actual physical dimensions, that not everybody can be an exception 293 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: to the norm. But even though they believe wholeheartedly in 294 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: someone like Max Meyer, they have a very strong belief 295 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: in someone like six though Sanchez, that doesn't mean that 296 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: they want to throw out that that critical piece of 297 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: information in all cases that maybe this does influence their 298 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: thinking in situations like Ammamoto, So that part is kind 299 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: of unknowable to know whether exactly what his structural the 300 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: structural integrity of his shoulder and his elbow looks like 301 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: right now, if they have better access to that information 302 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: even than other MLB teams do, and if they just 303 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: do not seem as a guy that will be available 304 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: to them for full seasons moving forward, then that could 305 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: be another reason why they want to cut cords right 306 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: now before his value entirely bottoms out. But the other 307 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: angle to this is that even if he had been 308 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: bypassed by others on the starting pitching depth chart, which 309 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: is absolutely the case. Obviously six too had buoyed over 310 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: him Elietz or Hernandez. I mean, he was the one 311 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: that made the opening day rotation in the first place, 312 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: and then his performance last year was even better than 313 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: yamamotos was as a rookie. That Yamamoto just was not 314 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: did not occupy the same spot on the death chart 315 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: that he used to. I mean, that's an element to 316 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: it too. Even so, he's a guy that you would 317 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: think they would consider moving to the bullpen at some point, 318 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: whether it's immediately to start the twenty twenty one season 319 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: or at some point as the year goes on, try 320 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: to carve out a useful role for him there, because 321 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: that was a big weakness for the team. That has 322 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: been a big weakness for the team for really the 323 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: entirety of this new ownership group. Aside from having some 324 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: good luck with finding some dependable closers these past couple 325 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,719 Speaker 1: of years, I mean the rest of the rest of 326 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: the road leading up to the closer has been an 327 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: adventure and a revolving door. Yamamoto, if one of the 328 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: big concerns you have about him is his pass ball velocity, 329 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: moving someone to the bullpen and putting them in a 330 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: position where they don't want to go through the order 331 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: once that they can exert more effort with individual pitches. 332 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: I mean that's been in many cases a proven way 333 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: to boost up somebody's fastball velocity. And with him, the 334 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: one off speed pitch that really jumps off the page 335 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: with him is his slider. I mean there was a 336 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: streak starting in twenty nineteen where I think he went 337 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: seven or eight starts before allowing a single hits against 338 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: his slider, And as much as a disaster as twenty 339 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: twenty was, he in a very small sample size, he 340 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: didn't allow any extra base hits off of that pitch either. 341 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: In all of twenty twenty he threw it only sixty 342 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: two times, only eleven ending of plate appearance. But in 343 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: that small sample it wasn't what was getting him into trouble. 344 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: He was getting into trouble on pretty much everything else 345 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: on the fastball, the four seam and the sinker, and 346 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: the change up barely even through the change up, the 347 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: even the cutter, I mean, gave up some pretty deflating 348 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: home runs on that as well, but not the slider. 349 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: So he has these two pitches, one that you already 350 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: have enough concerns about, but one that could in that 351 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: fastball that could play better if he's in the bullpen, 352 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: and you have that slider that if he's getting ahead 353 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: and counts more often with his fastball, that the slider 354 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: has been a great putaway pitch for him, and one 355 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: that avoids big damage. Based on what he's shown in 356 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: the majors so far, at the very least, you get 357 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: a guy that could be in your bullpen mix, either 358 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: on opening day or somebody that gets called up during 359 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: the season at some point, I mean. And the main 360 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: thing that you think is working to his advantage is 361 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: that because he spent so much time in the miners 362 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: last year, impacting his major league service time, he only 363 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: has he still has six years of club control remaining. 364 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: Marlins have him under control all the way through twenty 365 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: twenty six. At a minimum, they still have a minor 366 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: league option on him as well, so they can send 367 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: him down regardless of circumstances at end point this year 368 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: or whether they delay that for a future year as well. 369 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,239 Speaker 1: They still have that one option year in order to 370 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: send him to the miners, have him worked on things, 371 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, and that long term control 372 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: just gives them so many chances to figure out the 373 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: best way to utilize them. If you really like him 374 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: in the clubhouse, and you've seen him have some sort 375 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 1: of success in the majors, and he's shown flashes at 376 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: least with his slider, if nothing else, that that's something 377 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: to work on. For a team that at this moment 378 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: is relying so much on inexperienced players, you want to 379 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: give opportunities, I would think to the ones that have 380 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: done something in the major leagues, something that seems sort 381 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: of repeatable or something that can be adjusted down the line. 382 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: At the same way that I didn't feel the team 383 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: would overreact too much to his twenty twenty season, I 384 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: mean maybe other major league teams won't overreact either, Perhaps 385 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: that his value is a little higher now than I feared, 386 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: and they could get some sort of intriguing lower level 387 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: non forty man prospect in return for him. But even 388 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: if they do, I'm not even playing the results. I 389 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: just feel that this decision in itself, the timing is 390 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: inappropriate because this is where I'm going to finish off. 391 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: This revieated episode is considering well reminding you about the 392 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: state of their starting pitching depth with the Marlins at 393 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: this very moment, my projection for the opening day rotation 394 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: would be, in no particular order, Sandy Alcontra, Pabolo Lopez, 395 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: Eliez or Hernandez six do Sanchez, and I think Nick 396 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: and Nider is gonna come in and take that fitth spot. 397 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: As always, they're going to have some sort of competition 398 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: for that. Trevor Rodgers, who I've spoken about, despite his 399 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: bottom line results, really showed a lot of promise when 400 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: he was called up in twenty twenty. I have no 401 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: doubt that he's going to be pitching in the majors 402 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,239 Speaker 1: as a starter during the year. Daniel Castano was a 403 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: big surprise in terms of at least his results. I 404 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: wouldn't say that he has the same kind of upside 405 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: that Rogers has that any of these other guys have, 406 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: but just the fact that he pitched to a low 407 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: three er and that he, I mean, he showed some things. 408 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: It's hard to really put your finger on it and 409 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: to trust him to be like an actual reliable workhorse 410 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 1: in the rotation. But he's someone that I imagine will 411 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: get spots starts this coming season at the least. Just 412 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: that's how we generally see things in baseball play out 413 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: that if you have initial success, they're going to give 414 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: you opportunities until you fail. And he has not failed yet. 415 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: He did not fail last year. It was became a 416 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: really clutch in order to make the difference for the 417 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: Marlins actually sneaking into the playoffs in the first place. 418 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: So he's going to be in the conversation, but probably 419 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: spend more time at Triple A. Edward Cabrera, I mean 420 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: Edward Carrera, just as we're recording this named in the 421 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: opinion of Keith Law of the Athletic as the best 422 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: prospect in the Marlins organization, even ahead of six to zero. 423 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: And there are people within the Marlins organization that feel 424 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: that exact same way that because of Cabrera's swing and 425 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: miss potential, he still has his age working on his side. 426 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: He has his triple digit fastball velocity that he has 427 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: all the potential in the world to be a front 428 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: of the line starting pitcher. He would have made his 429 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: debut last year if not for a minor injury. He 430 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: will absolutely make his debut this coming year, and very 431 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: potentially once he gets up here, he might be here 432 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: to stay. So they have a lot of those guys, 433 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: and I should, of course mention Paul Campbell. He is 434 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: a Rule five draft pick, the one they got directly 435 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: from the Tampa Bay Rays, who has a lot of 436 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: starting experience in the high levels of the miners when 437 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: he was with the Rays organization. I mean, heading into 438 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: camp at this moment, you don't make someone your Rule 439 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: five draft pick unless you plan to have them get 440 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: serious looks during spring training, and we'll see if he 441 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: actually sticks coming out of camp. But what we've seen 442 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: so far under this Marlins organization here heading into year 443 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: four already since new ownership took over, is that these 444 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: Rule five draft picks they stick around for a while, 445 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: whether it's making the opening to day roster or going 446 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: on the the injured list at the beginning and going 447 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: through a minor league rehab process that they took Campbell, 448 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: you know, with the plans of sneaking him on the 449 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 1: roster throughout this entire season and then being able to 450 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: keep him long term in some sort of role. There's 451 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: a lot of others, young intriguing arms that are in 452 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: this mix, Braxton Garrett, who we got a little peak 453 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: at last year, and the former first round draft pick, 454 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: even Max Meyer. Max Meyer is someone that they advertised 455 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: as being major league ready coming out of the draft, 456 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: and if they're going to hold true to that, then 457 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: I imagine after a few months in the minor league levels, 458 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: if he's able to stay healthy and stay consistent, whether 459 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: it's at High A or Double A, that they may 460 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: call him up before the season is over as well. 461 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: Other names just throw out there, George Guzman, Jordan Holloway, 462 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: Cody Poteed. Cody Poteed is one of the longest tenured 463 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: Marlins prospects who is still around as far as I know. 464 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: This will be his last year prior to reaching minor 465 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: league freecy. We'll see if he finally gets a shot 466 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: after knocking down the door at TRIPAA. And even some 467 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: of the non roster invitees that have already been announced, 468 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: such as right hander Zach Thompson, a really big body 469 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: pitcher who has been with the White Sox organization and 470 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: has high high miners experience as well. Overall, they have 471 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 1: more than a dozen internal candidates that you could squint 472 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: and see making start somewhere along the way. However, I mean, 473 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 1: the lack of major league experience across the board is 474 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: is appalling you. Just as much as you like the 475 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: potential of some of these guys, you know statistically that 476 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: only a small percentage of them will realize that potential, 477 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: and even a smaller percentage of that will actually realize 478 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: their potential this year and be able to help you compete, 479 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: Which gets to my point that it really is shocking 480 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: to me that we're going to make it all the 481 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: way through the end of January without the Marlins doing 482 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: anything to add a veteran presence to this rotation. All 483 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: they've done really has been subtraction to this rotation mix. 484 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: All these guys I just mentioned were already with the 485 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: organization last year. I guess Campbell being the exception. Campbell 486 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: is the one that they picked up in the Rule 487 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: five drafts, So we'll see with that. But that's somewhat 488 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: of a roll of the dice. They got rid of 489 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: Jose Urania, non tendered him, they got rid of Robert Duggar, 490 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: got claimed off waivers, and now getting rid of Jordan Yamamoto. 491 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you might not be enthused by any of them. Frankly, 492 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: I would not have high expectations for any of them 493 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. But they are Enning's eaters, if 494 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: nothing else. They are guys that are starting pitchers that 495 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: have been developed as starters, that have a lot of 496 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: the qualities and traits that you look for in a starter, 497 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: and that gives you something over the course of a 498 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: long season. And so the fact that they haven't replaced 499 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: them with any new Major leaguers, They've just replaced them 500 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: with some guys that were knocking on the door in 501 00:27:55,119 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: other organizations, that you're really opening yourself up to a 502 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: lot of a wide range of possibilities this year. A 503 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: lot of those possibilities would lead the team to be 504 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: non competitive in what is going to be arguably the 505 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: deepest division in Major League Baseball, the National League East. 506 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: It's my final plea, as we're just a few weeks 507 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: away from spring training, just two months away from opening Day, 508 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: that it'd be great if they just found a veteran 509 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: starting pitcher and added him to the organization in some capacity. 510 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: Most likely that's going to come via free agency. Unfortunately, 511 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean at this point that the options in free 512 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: agency are finally dwindling. I mean, it took a while 513 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: to get things going, but free agent starters are getting 514 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: well compensated this year. So this again gives me some 515 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: hope that Yamamoto will have some trade value because he's 516 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: earning approximately the major league minimum and he's already had 517 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: some sort of major league experience that he's an attractive 518 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: alternative to some other organizations I imagine because of that 519 00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: and accommindation of other factors. But for the Marlins, I mean, 520 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: I think at this point you're looking at names that 521 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: are multiple years removed from their peaks. Whether it's someone 522 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: like Geo Gonzalez, who until recently was a very consistent 523 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: ending seater, who is a native of the Miami area, 524 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: and I mean at this point, given his age in 525 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: his mid thirties and the kind of year that is 526 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: coming off of where he didn't pitch all that much 527 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: with the White Sox, that I maybe you could sneak 528 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: him through on a minor league deal or a very 529 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: minimal major league commitment. I mean, the ideal circumstances with 530 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: all these guys I'm about to name is somehow convincing 531 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: them to take a minor league deal. But given what 532 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: we've seen from the rest of the market, I think 533 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: all these guys will ultimately require some sort of guarantee 534 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: to join a new team. Rick Porcello, former Siung Award winner, 535 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: Jacob Arietta, former SI Young Award winner, Annie bal Sanchez, 536 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: not a former Signing Award winner, but a former Marlin 537 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: that we know very well and has pitched pretty well 538 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: recently with other teams in the division, with the exception 539 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty Julio Taran, who has seemingly been around 540 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: forever but just thirty years old. There's so many intangibles 541 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: that veteran starters bring, as I've mentioned on previous episodes, 542 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: and the decision to get rid of Yamamoto I would 543 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: hope is connected to this desire to add starting pitching 544 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: depth to replace him in some sort of way, because 545 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: he did have some sort of value and I think 546 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: he will be missed to some extent for reasons tangible 547 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: and intangible over the course of a long season. I 548 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: want to thank him. He came on the podcast in 549 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen right before his call up. That was a 550 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: fun conversation to have, and he's been engaging with us 551 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: throughout the last couple of years during the season, during 552 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: the off season that he's a guy that is very 553 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: down to earth, and to this point, I think his 554 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: career has already been somewhat of a success story, given 555 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: that he was never a super early, highly regarded prospect. 556 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: He was a guy that earned his opportunities by performing 557 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: against the highest minor league levels. Finally got that opportunity 558 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: in the show. But in all likelihood he will wind 559 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: up with another team within the next couple of days, 560 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: and I may wind up with another microphone by the 561 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: next episode, depending on the quality that this one has. 562 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. If you are listening to this, 563 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: as I said, a secret episode that not promoting on 564 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: the website or on social media, so if you found it, 565 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: it's probably because you were already subscribed to Fist Stripes 566 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: on your preferred podcast provider. Be sure to check out 567 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: the website for final coverage of international winter leagues. We 568 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: still have some Marlins players over there who are not 569 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: quite ready to report to spring training, but as well 570 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: as all the latest rumors about other adjustments that could 571 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: be made to this roster before camp gets underway and 572 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: even once camp gets underway, between the start camp and 573 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: the start of the regular season, that this is an 574 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: unprecedented sort of off season in terms of the deadlines 575 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: that we're accustomed to and how things are actually moving along. 576 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: There's still a long way to go in determining exactly 577 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: how this team is going to line up for the 578 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: start of the twenty twenty one season. I can't wait 579 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: to share it with you. So for Eli Sessmand and 580 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: everybody at Fish Stripes, thank you once again. Go Fish