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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, September. I'm sorry, February thirteenth, twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: Season fourteen, episode number one sixteen. Welcome to the latest

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Speaker 1: edition of The Break. We're live from the s WBC

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Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios after Star. We've got our normal crew, except

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Speaker 1: Dave Hellman is not here today, so we've got sitting

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Speaker 1: in again this week, Brian broad Us. Thanks for joining us. Brian,

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Speaker 1: appreciate that. Guys, thank you. We got a lot to

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Speaker 1: talk about today. We're gonna talk most of the show

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Speaker 1: about free agency, and thanks to Brian, we have this

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Speaker 1: nifty little sheet here of all of these unrestricted free

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Speaker 1: agent that the Cowboys have for this year. I sent

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Speaker 1: that to you. No, I think he stole that from

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Speaker 1: my desk. I sent that if PR put it out, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but whatever, correction, it's a great direction Thanks Nick Free.

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Speaker 1: It was a team effort. Thanks for doing this a

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Speaker 1: big point. I had nothing to do with it. If

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Speaker 1: Brian would have done, it would have been laminated. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're right about that, Love. I blow out our budget

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Speaker 1: on lamination with no question about that. We are actually

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Speaker 1: this this sheet actually lays out all the unrestricted free

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Speaker 1: agents for the Cowboys for actually for the next several years.

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Speaker 1: This show, we're going to focus on unrestricted free agents

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Speaker 1: we'll talking free agency, talking about all the Cowboys free

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Speaker 1: agents that they have that'll be up this year. The

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Speaker 1: Wally rod Smith. Now let's talk about the wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: Tavon Austin, Cole Bezelin. I figure we can talk about

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Speaker 1: these as a package, because I don't think you guys

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Speaker 1: can correct me if you disagree. But I don't think

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Speaker 1: Cowboys signed both of them. I think the Cowboys will

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Speaker 1: sign one or neither. So I want you to talk

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Speaker 1: about them kind of as a package. Which of them

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Speaker 1: is priority of either which of them would be at

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Speaker 1: the right price, and which of them would or which

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Speaker 1: or both would you move on from. Let's start with you, Brian.

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Speaker 1: You know what I've I've kind of gone back and

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Speaker 1: look at these kids in the college draft and realize

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Speaker 1: there's options there as well for you to go if

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Speaker 1: you want to. If you don't want to pay Cole

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Speaker 1: Beasley six seven million dollars a year, you can surely

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Speaker 1: go and get a an option that you know for

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Speaker 1: the next you know, maybe three or four years. That's

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Speaker 1: a lot cheaper. Similar type of players, guys that are

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Speaker 1: high volume catchers, uh, you know, are comfortable running inside routes.

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Speaker 1: I think there's obviously some options now if you look

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Speaker 1: at too potentially you know what's going on with Golden Tate.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think if you if you start to say, okay,

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Speaker 1: now the market has Golden Tate, Beasley, uh the kid

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Speaker 1: down in uh down in Tampa as well involved, you know,

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Speaker 1: Humphreys is his name. If you get four or five

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Speaker 1: of those on the market and then get college options

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Speaker 1: and stuff, we'll see where Cole Beasley falls. Yeah, but but, but,

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Speaker 1: but but it's seven million dollars a year. I'm out.

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Speaker 1: I'm out because I know I have options. I've got

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Speaker 1: other things that I and you know, this this team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Cole Beasley has been a nice player for this team.

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Speaker 1: But maybe Cole Beasley has worn out his welcome here,

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Speaker 1: you know, and it's time to move on from that.

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Speaker 1: You know, I understand how competitive he is, how he

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Speaker 1: wants the football. I get all that. But there's other

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Speaker 1: options out there too, And the fact that I know

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Speaker 1: that I have other options makes me want to content

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Speaker 1: wants me to move on from that. So you mentioned

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Speaker 1: that seven million dollar number. Can you give me a

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Speaker 1: number that you would feel comfortable with. Well, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. I'll pay him what

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Speaker 1: he currently makes. He's thirty years old, you know, currently

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Speaker 1: his average per years about three point four, So you're

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Speaker 1: willing to pay him maybe three point five. Yeah, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not going to sit there and pay

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Speaker 1: him six million dollars a year. I'm just not gonna

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Speaker 1: do that's probably not gonna do it most and no

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Speaker 1: to me, I love you, and I also loved you know,

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Speaker 1: I loved Anthony Hitchins too, you know, as a big

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Speaker 1: fan of Anthy Hitchins. But all of a sudden, when

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Speaker 1: you start saying I have to pay that, okay, I'll

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Speaker 1: move on you. Look, I think your linebackers got better

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Speaker 1: with with Anthi Hitchins walking out the door. Wow, that's

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Speaker 1: hard not doing right. That's a good statement right there.

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Speaker 1: But they also invested a first round pick. Absolutely, and

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Speaker 1: obviously they can't do that, but they invested a first

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Speaker 1: round pick in and Marii Cooper, and so they did

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Speaker 1: invest a first round pick. I think Brian's right on

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Speaker 1: the fact that I'm not paying him. I'm not paying

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Speaker 1: him for what he's done, because if you have to

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Speaker 1: pay these guys, and that's what Jerry got in trouble

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Speaker 1: for back in the mid nineties. You know, he's loyal

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Speaker 1: to his players, and he paid them contracts for what

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Speaker 1: they have done and not for what they they are

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Speaker 1: projected to be. And at thirty years old and a

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Speaker 1: guy that's been banged up and he's heard, you know,

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Speaker 1: every year just a little bit. He makes some plays,

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Speaker 1: he gets he gets taken out of games. It's not

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Speaker 1: worth six or seven million a year. I don't, I

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Speaker 1: don't care. I don't. He's not that that proven to me. Um,

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Speaker 1: seventy five catches. Yeah, that that was a that was

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Speaker 1: a great year. But you're like the third or fourth option,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I just I wouldn't pay that much.

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Speaker 1: I would I would say, will pay you three to

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Speaker 1: four million. Um, So go go see what's out there,

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Speaker 1: just like Terrence Williams did a few years ago, and

560
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: comes back. You come back. That's actually a great point

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Speaker 1: when you talk about the option, like third or fourth option.

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Speaker 1: Can a team? Can any team afford to pay a

563
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Speaker 1: third or fourth option six seven million dollars? Yeah, that's

564
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Speaker 1: especially when you got so many guys within the next

565
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Speaker 1: two years that will be up that are high price

566
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Speaker 1: guys that you would have to pay big money if

567
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Speaker 1: you're going to retain their services. It does make you

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Speaker 1: wonder is it worth paying that fourth third goes to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Do you think he's gonna have a blowout? Yere Cincinnati listis,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just Cincinnati. He'll have the year

571
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Speaker 1: he's been had. Okay, what if he what if he

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Speaker 1: goes to Miami, he'll probably have what what if he

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Speaker 1: goes to New England, He's probably gonna have a really

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Speaker 1: good I mean, that's that's that's what. But you know,

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Speaker 1: the guy, there's only probably three or four of those

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Speaker 1: kind of teams where you're like, I can have a

577
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Speaker 1: really good year if he goes there, because the quarterback

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Speaker 1: will use him the right way. Guy makes a New

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Speaker 1: England makes about six and a half million dollars a year. Edelman, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they get that kind of production about him. You

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Speaker 1: know a couple of years ago Edelman and a Mendola. Yeah,

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00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: we're both doing that. Not teams can can play like that,

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Speaker 1: and um so yeah, he could go to New England

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Speaker 1: and a a Mendola is a great example because look at

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Speaker 1: what Avendola was doing when he was with the with

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Speaker 1: New England and what has he done since. Yeah, it's

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00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: it's a yeah, it's a big difference. And so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: if he goes to one of those teams, which if

589
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Speaker 1: if he wants to play and really get maximum, you know,

590
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Speaker 1: whatever it is with aximum playing out of whatever situation,

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Speaker 1: He's probably going to be looking at those kinds of

592
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Speaker 1: situations and seeing if they are willing to bring him

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Speaker 1: in for the count of money he want. He needs

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Speaker 1: to go with a really good, established, accurate quarterback. Good

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Speaker 1: sounds like the same conversation we're having. Established and accurate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that guy right here is that's we

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Speaker 1: would call Dak that he was not established. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's he's he's on his way. He's not accuracy, he's

599
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Speaker 1: not his best thing. He needs to go to a

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Speaker 1: quarterback that that probably would be a little bit more accurate.

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Speaker 1: Let me correct myself. That's he makes four point six

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Speaker 1: million a year. Edelman. Edelman, Oh gosh, that's a steel. Yeah,

603
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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. That's a steel. That's a bay

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Speaker 1: at disney World or wherever he you know, he's been

605
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Speaker 1: sitting at and he's gonna get a hold out. He

606
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Speaker 1: needs to. He needs to make more than that. That is. Yeah,

607
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Speaker 1: that's a steel like that. But that's if you look,

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Speaker 1: if you look at the Patriots, that's if you look

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Speaker 1: at how their salary structure is, it's Brady Stefan, Gilmour,

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Speaker 1: Devin mccordy, Rod Grinkowski, high Tower, Marcus Cannon. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think have I named an offensive player? I mean

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Speaker 1: I've named Brady and Grinkowski, yeah, you know, and I've

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Speaker 1: named an offensive tackle. You know, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Julian Elman, he comes down, he said, you know his

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Speaker 1: numbers right at you know, uh, four point six, And

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Speaker 1: I would suspect if he went to another team you

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Speaker 1: would see a similar similar thing, is what you saw

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Speaker 1: with Edelman, same thing. Rooks Burke had three million dollars.

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Speaker 1: But well, I think you move on from Cole regardless

620
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Speaker 1: of the money, whatever it is, doesn't matter a million year.

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Speaker 1: Here's here's why the money doesn't matter to me at

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Speaker 1: this point. Cool. He's a great guy, and he's always

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Speaker 1: had a great attitude, very very happy, playful guy, good

624
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Speaker 1: guy to be around. But last year there was a

625
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Speaker 1: big noticeable difference in his attitude and the way he

626
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Speaker 1: was feeling being here and everything that was happening at

627
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Speaker 1: the wide receiver position. And what's happening in what happened

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Speaker 1: in the offense. So you don't really want to have

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Speaker 1: a guy that is not content, and I really doubt

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Speaker 1: that they're gonna be that is not content, And I

631
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Speaker 1: doubt that the Cowboys would really bend to satisfy his

632
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Speaker 1: needs and what he wants. Are you sure they have not?

633
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Speaker 1: Because are you sure that whatever you were sensing from

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Speaker 1: him wasn't because of the offensive coordinator? And now with

635
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Speaker 1: that offensive coordinator gone, maybe he is satisfied with the result,

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Speaker 1: because it did sound like to me, at least it

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Speaker 1: sound like some of the if you want to read

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Speaker 1: behind the lines of what people were saying, I think

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Speaker 1: the receivers buying large supported this move. That's a good point. Yeah,

640
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking of that change of offensive coordinator, So

641
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: you would have to check and see what they're thinking

642
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: and maybe if that fits with them then then yeah.

643
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: But if it was to stay how it was as

644
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: far as how they were using him, then it's just

645
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: someone that you're not happy, then don't be here, you know.

646
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: So you go somewhere where you feel happy and you

647
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: feel that you can make a difference and that the

648
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: people that you're with are going to appreciate you and

649
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: take care of you and use you how you want

650
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: to be used. Okay, so let's flip to the other

651
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: guy and see if maybe y'll give him a little

652
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: more love than Cole tay Von Austin. Is he a

653
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: guy as a priority? You think he's a guy at

654
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: the right price. You think he's a guy you just

655
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: move on from. How about a one year veteran minimum deal?

656
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: All right? That? Because I need I'm gonna need a

657
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: punt returner. Yep, I mean I saw a little bit

658
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: of there. I'm I'm gonna saying, listen, man, I paid

659
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: you last year. You played eleven percent of the Snaps,

660
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: ten percent of the snaps. I gave you money last year.

661
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: Do me a favor here? No, seriously, no, I gave

662
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: I gave you seven million dollar ye, No, where I

663
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: gave you seven million dollars last year, my friend. Yeah,

664
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, think about that, you know, and you're saying, listen,

665
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: you did. You played ten percent of the Snaps. If

666
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: you want to go out and pick up your life

667
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: and go somewhere else and try somewhere else, good. But

668
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: this is where I'm at right now. You know, this

669
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: is where I think that Stephen Jones comes into play.

670
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: I think Stephen Jones doesn't give an f I really don't.

671
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: I think he's like, you know what a shrewd business. Yeah,

672
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: And this is what's gonna happen with Earl Thomas. I

673
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: think if they really go after Earl Thomas, it's gonna

674
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: be it's gonna be one guy recruiting his rear off

675
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: Chris Roshard and the other guys saying I can only

676
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: give you this much, how much? How badly do you

677
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: want to play here? Do you want to play here? Okay,

678
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: this is what we can do. If you don't want

679
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: to play here. You know, I'm gonna look at this draft,

680
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: which I've done the last five years now, or I'm

681
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna go find a human log

682
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: out there. You know, I'm gonna go find my pro department,

683
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: find me another guy, is what I'm gonna do. Yeah,

684
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: And that right there, you can go back and you

685
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: could say, how does the full back affect the safety position? Well,

686
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: affects it? If you go sign Earl Thomas. If you

687
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: sign Earl Thomas, then all of a sudden, who's not starting,

688
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: Probably Jeff Heath, Jeff Heath doesn't start, then Jeff Heath

689
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: is now your core special teams player, which is probably

690
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: his best role anyway back. Now now like that, Yeah,

691
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: now you're Rod Smith and you're Ola Wally. You take

692
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean, so it's a domino effect

693
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: in that regard my opinion on Tavon Austin, I'm letting

694
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: him go. I don't think he's gonna help this team.

695
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: I don't think he helped the Rams. I think the

696
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: Rams you saw Sean McVay was like could do and

697
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: then he wanted him out of the picture. Um, I

698
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: agree that whole You've played eleven percent of the snaps,

699
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: but you're asking him to be rational and that that's

700
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: something I haven't really seen. We've seen some other things

701
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: behind the scenes a little bit that are just kind

702
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: of head scratching, and you're you know, well, I'm just true.

703
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: It's not so much the dancing. You know, there were

704
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: other alarms that went off that you know, um, at

705
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: different times that I've never seen before, and so I just,

706
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: you know, I just I think it's time to move

707
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: on there. Yeah, I think so real quick, Brian brought

708
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: up the name. I just want to get your opinions,

709
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: Golden Tap, would you would you go out and try

710
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: to go after a free agent like that, knowing that again,

711
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: if he's coming in here, he certainly isn't jumping over

712
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: Mary Cooper. And what you've seen from Gallop suggests a

713
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: Gallop is a nice young opportunity, I mean, a nice

714
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: young receiver that you want to be able to grow.

715
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: He would be the third receiver. You probably have to

716
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: pay him, probably more money than either one of those two.

717
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: You look at a guy like Golden Tap. Absolutely, I

718
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: don't how much you willing to pay him. Like if

719
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: you say you're willing to pay three and a half

720
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: to Cole, okay, willing? Okay, if you told me, I'd

721
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: pay him more than Cole. You know why, because he

722
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: could play on the outside. Cole Beasley can't play on

723
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: the outside. Cole Beasley can barely you know, he barely

724
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: plays When you ask him to do anything on the outside.

725
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: He is a non factor. He's a non factor in

726
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: the red zone. He's a fourth down in five the

727
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: game on the line. Who did they throw the ball

728
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: to in Philadelphia to get to that game to New Orleans?

729
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 1: Get through it to frigging Golden Tate. That's what they

730
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: threw it to. And people say, oh, he drops the ball, Yeah,

731
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: he tromps the ball. This guy could play inside outside.

732
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: He is a mean, nasty m effort. I am telling

733
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: you that's what you give me one of those guys

734
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: I really doesn't either. That's see, give me give me

735
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: guys that. It means something too. I'll pay him more

736
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: than cole Bees. You know why because Amber just told me,

737
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: now there's something different about cole Is there something different

738
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: about his attitude? Now? I want a guy that loves football.

739
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: I think Golden Tate loves football. And the problem is

740
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 1: now that the Lions traded him. You are the Lions

741
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: traded him because they couldn't get a contract. He thought

742
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: they were gonna have a contract done. But let's all

743
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: go back to what he did to us in Week

744
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: three or four, whatever week that was, where you know,

745
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: twelve targets, twelve catches. Let's remember that of a guy

746
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: playing inside and outside. Okay, sign me up. I mean

747
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: the thing about that, and with all the guys that

748
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: they've got to resign, I believe with in free agency

749
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: they could do one of those deals. One of those

750
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: deals where you're gonna be making more than eight million,

751
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: seven to eight million, and it would have be golden tate.

752
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: I don't think it's an either. I don't think you

753
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: do that and you can go get your safety. That's

754
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, you have to make. This is

755
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: a decision. Is your free agent signing. If you did

756
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: outside of your own guys, yeah, outside of it, if

757
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: you did either one of those, I applaud which you've

758
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: done this offseason. You signed Lawrence long term, you go

759
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: get a safety, or you go get that wide receiver

760
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 1: that now now you're you're you're you're cooking the right way. Yeah, yeah,

761
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: either one, either one. You look like you got something

762
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: on your mind. You mean, yeah, what you mean, Sop

763
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: playing out there? Agree with that. But obviously my am

764
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: my priority and what I would want it is Earl

765
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: and the safety guy. A wide receiver. Yes, And I

766
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: just think that I'm just tired of the wide receiver position.

767
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: I am just fed up with it. I'm tired of

768
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: hearing about it too many changes. Let's just let let's

769
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: figure out this is it and this is what we're

770
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: gonna do. And I know this is what you do

771
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: during the off season. Did you not like a trade

772
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: to make No, yes, I did. That was a good

773
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: trade with the receivers before the trade. I think what

774
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: what's annoying or frustrating for me was to see that

775
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: whole mess happening during the season. And it's tough to

776
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: say this because it's kind of what needs to happen

777
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: in order for you to really figure out what's going on.

778
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: But the fact that they just didn't we're in like

779
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: half figure out, Yeah, when they started the season, It's like,

780
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: that's why you took It took an awful start to

781
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: figure out. You have preseason like, okay, you should have

782
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: a better feel of your wide receiver group by the

783
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: time the seasons start up. With the front office of

784
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: the receivers, I don't know. It's a mixture to make sure.

785
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: I'm just tired of talking about the wide receiver positions.

786
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: They got a Marii Cooper, like you mentioned Michael Gallup.

787
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: He he showed a lot of potential there. There's a

788
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: room to grow there and he seems promising. Now let's

789
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: just like fully solidify this and keep improving on Dak,

790
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: keep working Dack out. I have junkin that he should

791
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: be able to do that and take care of that.

792
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: But I just want to lock this out down, lock

793
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: it down, and kind of move on from that aspect

794
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: of things and just okay, we're done with it. I

795
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: just jumped on the table for Golden Take. Jump on

796
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: the table for the safety. Jump on the table, and

797
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: tell me why they should get this. Okay, Well, why

798
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: shouldn't you? Yeah, that's the question there. Why shouldn't you?

799
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: I mean the defense. You saw a great amount of

800
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: change this past year of growth and how they were

801
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 1: able to take it to another level. Now, I think

802
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: that what really really would just take it right where

803
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: they need to be is to have a guy like

804
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas playing the way that he played, And of

805
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 1: course we got to see how he is after the injury.

806
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: But even then, go ahead, go you guys. Just set

807
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: Golden Take comes in here and is probably the third

808
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: receiver at least from a slot. Now you can play

809
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: on the outside on a running team with the best

810
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: running back in the league in my opinion, and a

811
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: running team that needs to get a better backup. Um.

812
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,479
Speaker 1: But then you'd have a slot guy that could help.

813
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: He'd help on the outside. He'd be good Earl Thomas

814
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: comes in. He would be your best safety you've had

815
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: since Darren Woodson. So and a guy that gives you

816
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: something that this team lacks in the secondary, which is takeaways.

817
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 1: And he's proven to do that. He proved it twice

818
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: in the in the in the game. Um and so,

819
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: I it's a great it's a great debate. But I

820
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: think you you you're really fixing more of a problem

821
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: over here than you would be at the at the

822
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: receiver if you didn't do the Cooper thing last year. Yeah,

823
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: that changes everything. Well, if you did do the Cooper thing,

824
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: you're you're in the ab sweepstakes, don't you think, Yeah,

825
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 1: you're you're up. Yeah, you're talking about moving a pick, yeah, absolutely,

826
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 1: or drafted and you know, and the way it looks

827
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: right now, there's not a first round receiver on that board.

828
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 1: So this is a great movie all the way around

829
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: this there's not there. It's not just Brian broad Us

830
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: saying this, it's guys all around the league saying, I

831
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: don't know if there's a first round receiver on this board? Wow?

832
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: You know and that and that right there, So that

833
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: that's that's where you know you you Yeah, good for Pittsburgh,

834
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna get out pretty high pick. But the problem

835
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh running into is they're not training for people. Aren't

836
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: training for a twenty four year old receiver, training for

837
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 1: a thirty year old, thirty thirty one year old receiver.

838
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: That right, thirty thirty one year old receiver that can

839
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: be at times a malcontent. Very true, yep, very true.

840
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: That's a problem. All right, let's take our final break.

841
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: We'll come back. We got a few more names you

842
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: gotta get through on this list. Of course, we got

843
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: to talk about DeMarcus Lawrence. Well does that when we

844
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: come back back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot com Radio. Well,

845
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: the player could look good on paper, it's when he's

846
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: out on the field that you really find out what

847
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: he's made of. That's why the Cowboys rely on more

848
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: than just stats and scouting reports when building their team.

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Speaker 1: Back to the break, Picking number one in the draft

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you guys real quick question. I know

906
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Speaker 1: you're gonna talk about a defensive end. I talk about

907
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Yeah, the kids Simmons at Michigan, at Mississippi

908
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Speaker 1: State towards ACL yesterday, he's like a top ten pick

909
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: at fifty eight. Are you guys gonna jump on board

910
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: and talk about drafting maybe a top ten pick, because

911
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: we've that's what they do in the second round. Like

912
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: that's everybody's okay on this man. That's you know, if

913
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: if you're telling me he legitimately is a top fifteen pick,

914
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 1: he is, there's no question, then yeah, bring bringing him on.

915
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: So and I will sit and wait for him to

916
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 1: get healthy, and then I will have myself at Jalen

917
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: Smith two point zero. He's not going to play at

918
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Speaker 1: all in twenty nineteen. I don't care. Okay, you have

919
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: a good football team. You have a good football team

920
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: that's already young. I don't care always thinking about the

921
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: future health. I got an Antoine Woods, you had the

922
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: idea for another year, So I'm okay with that. Wait wait, wait,

923
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: wait wait, we got it. We got a distainer here.

924
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: I think when you got a good deal like that,

925
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: that you can steal some good talent. Obviously you've seen

926
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: it worked out down the line, and yeah, that's good.

927
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: But what I say, yeah, hate is the idea of

928
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: always thinking about the future that far ahead. When you

929
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: have like let's think about now, let's figure out this

930
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: year and figure out how to win this year, and

931
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: shake your head all you want but save the head

932
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: coach Amberson, to save the head coach program. But that

933
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: is that is this program, make no mistake about it.

934
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: He is he wants nothing to do this gas. When

935
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Speaker 1: we that, we get to see the fans talk about

936
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: it on Twitter and stuff, and me, obviously havn't been

937
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: a fan since I was born or type of thing,

938
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Speaker 1: like I wasn't born here, bless you. But but when

939
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: you look at people like that that they've been with

940
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,439
Speaker 1: this team for so many years, and then you start thinking, oh, yeah,

941
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: this is for the future. Like we're at the point

942
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: that I feel that the fans are so saturated with

943
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: the whole situation. It needs to happen and needs to happen,

944
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: and let's just focus about now that all makes sense

945
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 1: and that's great, But then you don't have Jalen Smith

946
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Speaker 1: if you're not gonna do right. Then you don't have

947
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence if you're not gonna do that. There are

948
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Speaker 1: a ton of guys that the Cowboys are selected in

949
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: the second round. There's a reason why they're in the

950
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: second round. Lee is another one. So yeah, I think

951
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: you can say that, but some of the best players

952
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: that have been on this team in the last five

953
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: to ten years are guys that they select in the

954
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: second round because they had here concerns and they were like,

955
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Speaker 1: we will accept that, and we will we know we

956
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: will benefit on the other end. Yes, that's that's a

957
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: good argument. And but at the same time, you gotta

958
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Speaker 1: think the other players that are your great talent, they're

959
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: worrying out too. Yeah, years are passing by, they're not

960
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: getting any younger. You know, she's she's not wrong. I

961
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Speaker 1: get it. I think she. I think she us three

962
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: here are thinking about yeah, a future, future, future. She's

963
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: honestly lined up with what the fans thinking about. The

964
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,919
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965
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, yep, or even sniffing a conference championship.

966
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Speaker 1: But let me ask you this. If you if you,

967
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Speaker 1: let's assume for a second, you get Earl Thomas or

968
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Speaker 1: you get the receiver, right, you get one of those

969
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: two guys. Yeah, let's say you resigned tank Um, do

970
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: you feel like next year defensive tackle position and I'm

971
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: assuming you would still maybe get another defensive tackle a

972
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: little free agency something that you hope. Do you think

973
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: that you would be prohibited from getting to a Super

974
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 1: Bowl running Malie Collins and Antoine Woods out there next

975
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: year knowing that you got this guy sitting what happened

976
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: to you the MS, what happened to you in the

977
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: Rams game? So you're not playing him next year? No,

978
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: I am. But the thing is he's a guy that

979
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: husband injured reoccurring injury, the same one, and it's something

980
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: that David Irving you cannot rely on. Well, you've moved

981
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Though we were, we werena moving

982
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: on from him. No, No, we were putting our eggs

983
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: in our basket for that guy. Yeah, yeah, okay, But

984
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: I just wanted to make so it sounds like you

985
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: guys are all bored for bringing it in anbar about

986
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 1: the fan. I'm looking at the second round picks. There's

987
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: no second round pick that's come in here that's helped

988
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: this team like immediately that they don't help, even to

989
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence, did you come help immediately? And so Gregory didn't,

990
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: Jalen didn't. Jason Garrett didn't want to hear that, right,

991
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to hear him right, right. I mean

992
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 1: he's getting nothing out of the draft. Probably Jason Gooen

993
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: in the room please, we're gonna conduct this draft without you.

994
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, well it may or may not affect I

995
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: heard there's some real good catfish the serving line. All right,

996
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: let's move on Jeff Swain. Is he a priority guy?

997
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: Right price guy? Or move on from him? Great price? Okay,

998
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: moving on, you're moving on? Yeah, I am bad enough.

999
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: You know what I'm trying to I think I can

1000
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: continually upgrade the position. Again, I have the advantage of

1001
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: you guys right now because I've seen some tight ends

1002
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: in this draft. Yeah, and I feel like that if

1003
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: you look at a couple of them, if you know

1004
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Speaker 1: Sternberger not a from Georgia, those two guys, by the way,

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1006
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: But but but there's tight ends in this draft where

1007
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: I think that if you paired one of those guys

1008
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: with Blake Jarwin and then also with Dalton Schultz. Now

1009
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: we're now we're humming along here. Now we're you know.

1010
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: I mean I think Jeff Swain, I think he did.

1011
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: He came in here and trust me, he's the only

1012
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: guy that was that got Dame Bruger got stumped by

1013
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: didn't have a report and he's played far beyond his

1014
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: expectations of here and even watch Texas. Yeah, I didn't

1015
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: have it. I didn't. We will. Yeah, I mean they

1016
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: didn't use him much in a way where you would

1017
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: notice him at Texas. And he probably might, like Nick say,

1018
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: might get a one year deal to come back and

1019
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: be all that. You know, if that's fine, But I'm

1020
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm gonna go try and draft me

1021
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: a guy to kind of build with the other two

1022
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: tight ends. I got all right, we got only a

1023
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 1: few more minutes. Let's let's move to shut up this camp. No,

1024
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: no, no no, it's okay, Cam Fleming Amber. Which way would

1025
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: you go on him? Ah? Yeah, yeah, one year deal,

1026
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: one year deal, one year deal, another Yeah, you're yeah,

1027
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: that's like another one of those guys, just like Swain too.

1028
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: It's just like I'm fine with having them back a

1029
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: good price or whatever. But obviously looking forward, looking into

1030
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: the draft, and see you just add more people, create

1031
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: some competition. Let's see what happens. She's right about the draft.

1032
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: There's some tackles in the draft in the middle of

1033
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 1: the board. Yeah, I bring him back. I bring him

1034
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 1: back because I want to get him an off season

1035
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: with Mark Colombo different, you know, mindset than they had

1036
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: last year. And it's easy to say, ask someone else,

1037
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: but I'd like to see who that person is. So

1038
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,919
Speaker 1: and we know how important to swing tackle questions left tackle?

1039
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: You know how important that swing tackle is. I think

1040
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: that's something that you probably want to consider very heavily.

1041
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: If you're not gonna have him back, you better have

1042
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: a really really good option other one or coach Connor

1043
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: Williams up real well. Right, he was drafted, Kevin, he

1044
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: was signed before Connor Williams. He's not gonna make you

1045
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: not draft the player. Like when they saw Connor, they

1046
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: were like, oh what about swimming? Okay, you know, and

1047
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: that same thing will happen here for a third or

1048
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: fourth round tackle that they like. They'll just because whatever

1049
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: they signed him to won't be like committed to keep

1050
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: one year be good? Yeah? All right? Uh, Marcus Smart,

1051
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: we didn't see him play this year. He was injured

1052
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: in training camp. Let him go walk away, all right? Uh?

1053
00:49:54,120 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: David Irving, any takers, no none? Go Amber okay, let

1054
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: me no no, no, let me say something real good.

1055
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: And I talked to you because she's concerned about MALIEK.

1056
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 1: Collins and she's not wrong. Yes, and he's a he's

1057
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: a he's a really good defensive tackle. Remember that I've

1058
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: been ready to move on. But in today at four o'clock,

1059
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: that's what happened at her Like someone got me thinking,

1060
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, how about do you see this being

1061
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: a similar situation or scenario even though different stories, different things,

1062
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: But as to what happened to Randy Gregory to where

1063
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: a lot of us were kind of ready to move

1064
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: on from him and say no, he's done. And when

1065
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: I hear it comment like that, it makes you think, okay,

1066
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 1: you do want to jump on that boat like you're

1067
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: done with him. But at the same time you get

1068
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: to think of those situations and always keep an open mind. See,

1069
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: I think this is one of those areas for me

1070
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: that's kind of great. I would not have a problem

1071
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: with having him back. I would need to see a

1072
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: total commitment on his part this offseason that shows me

1073
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: not not one of your words. I would have to

1074
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: see see a total commitment from him this offseason that

1075
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: suggested to me that he wanted to be here. So

1076
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: if I were doing something in him, it would be

1077
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: a one term, one year deal with a ton of

1078
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 1: incentives and he's gonna have to earn every single time

1079
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: by showing up, by playing, by playing, well, that's how

1080
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: he would make his money. And if he's willing to

1081
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: do that kind of deal, then his talent makes me

1082
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: say I would keep him around for another year just

1083
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: to see watch because there could have been a lot

1084
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: of things going on there. There was the personal life

1085
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: kind of stuff going on around him. We didn't know

1086
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: the whole details of that, and so maybe there was

1087
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: some of that that really can be debilitating. I don't know.

1088
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: I don't I really don't know, So I would I

1089
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 1: would want at least try it that way and see

1090
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: if I could. You sound like the front office the

1091
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 1: coaches are saying, audios. I know, yeah, I know, yeah,

1092
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: I know, because you're not the one that has to

1093
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: go in the room and talk the rest of those

1094
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: guys when they're seeing this guy not show up. You

1095
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: handle that, Okay, you handle that? What's the problem? Why

1096
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 1: aren't you handling that? Right? Yeah? All right, Dayton Jones.

1097
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: I got to move on, all right, DeMarcus Lawrence. And

1098
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: obviously we could stop down on this one for a

1099
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: little while, but I think it's pretty as those other

1100
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: ones were pretty cut and dry. I think this one

1101
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: is pretty cutting dry as well. Right, what Dayton Jones.

1102
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: I'll say this though, that they like him and if

1103
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have Irving back, and you know they

1104
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: they actually there's a place for him because he's an

1105
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 1: athletic player. He's a former first round pick, athletic player

1106
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: at tackle, can get up the field. With Woods coming

1107
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: back from injury, I don't think that they just you know,

1108
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: they would love to get some cheap deal for him

1109
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: and maybe bring him back. Maybe it's a one year

1110
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: deal as well as you get throwing Koran Read with

1111
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 1: that too. He's also an undrestricted. See now now I'm

1112
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: moving on from Karan Read and those guys. If you

1113
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: tell me Jones is coming back, I will take Jones

1114
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: over Karan Read. That's just because because you already know

1115
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: what you what I've seen Karan replay, Thank you very

1116
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: much for which not a bad player, yea, he was

1117
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: okay at times, But you think you can get more

1118
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 1: production out of Dayton Jones absolutely absolute healthy. Yeah. Um,

1119
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: let's move on to a couple of linebackers here. Justin

1120
00:52:54,160 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: March Lillard, I just feel like, you know, Hello, Chris Cummington. Yeah,

1121
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: Bryan Broad, it's nice to meet you. You've draft go

1122
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: out there to play. Well, you're gonna draft another one.

1123
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: You're Joe Thomas, Chris Covington. You've got two quality starting linebackers.

1124
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: Let's keep going. We'll add one down the road. Let

1125
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: me let me do one that's a little tougher, maybe

1126
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: Damien Wilson. Do you do with him? With with me?

1127
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: I say, go test the market? Yeah, see what's out there.

1128
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: If you give this deal, congratulations, I just think I

1129
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: just don't think you're it. Did something great? Yeah, you know,

1130
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: he's been here four years and and and again. His

1131
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 1: most famous moments aren't aren't really positive. I just don't

1132
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: you didn't he didn't play like Hitchens, same round, same

1133
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: conference that drafted from. Didn't play like Hitchens. Hi, Chris,

1134
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: Chris Covi did not you again? Yeah, exactly? Let him walk? Now?

1135
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: Are you at all concerned about the depth there at

1136
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: that position, because we don't Sean Lee obviously isn't an

1137
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: unrestricted free agent, but you would assume something's gonna be

1138
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: done with him from this. You know what I'm gonna do,

1139
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: reducing his money if he's willing to do that. That's

1140
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: the idea. I think Sean Lee would. I think Lee

1141
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: would work with you. I think Sean Lee's willing to work.

1142
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: I don't think Sean Lee's done playing football. But I'll

1143
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: tell you what though, it was a little bit red

1144
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: flaggish to me. He wasn't as good when he came

1145
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: back with injury from injury. He wasn't the same type

1146
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: as Shaun Lee. If you're telling me I could cut

1147
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: his salary in half and have him come back, I

1148
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: think over there they would love to have Sean leeback,

1149
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: but I can't have him back at seven million dollars

1150
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: a year, right easy. And so you don't feel like

1151
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: if you got Sean Leeback, you don't find you're you're

1152
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: at all exposed by letting these two guys walk. Now,

1153
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: I go with Joe Thomas, and I'm trusting my pro

1154
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 1: guys are gonna find me another Joe Thomas. Yeah yeah,

1155
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 1: all right, good final one, LP Latissore. I'm bringing him back,

1156
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: bringing him back now. I do think he wants a

1157
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: two year deal. He's not gonna do another one year deal.

1158
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: But you know what do that? Yeah? I mean, I

1159
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: mean I understand what happened in Washington. That was a

1160
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: weird thing. Not his fault at all. Yeah, I mean

1161
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: he's he's about as consistent as you can get what

1162
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: he might be the best at his job of anybody

1163
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 1: on this team. If you just say you're what's your job,

1164
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: He's got the job. Yeah, but have a bad snap, Yeah,

1165
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: have a bad snap before we can really say that.

1166
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: And also he will get down there and make it.

1167
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna make a play. But he's not

1168
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: a liability, Nope, running down there. And that's that's part

1169
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: of the long snapping ability. All good things start with

1170
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: the snap, the snap, the hold, the kick. If one

1171
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: of those things gets jacked up, it's usually a disaster, right.

1172
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: You know, you can usually survive the bad hold, you

1173
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: can't survive the bad snap. This guy, this guy forever.

1174
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 1: You don't even have to talk about him. Yeah, personality wise,

1175
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: you don't want to talk about him. But but still,

1176
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: but still, you know, he's the type of guy that

1177
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: when he comes on the field, you know there's something consistent.

1178
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,439
Speaker 1: You don't you're not thinking it's gonna be oh my gosh,

1179
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna be bowling class today. You know, he's not

1180
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: gonna bowl it back there. Yeah, you know, Chris Jones

1181
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: is a damn good holder too, and the reason why

1182
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: you can kind of have a kicker chance. You know,

1183
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: I didn't think there was a kicking contest summer. I

1184
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: gotta pay better attention to practice. I'm sorry about watching that. Yeah,

1185
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. Yeah, but anyway, don't take that

1186
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: for granted. I bring him back. If it's a two

1187
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: year deal, go ahead. Yeah, it's worth it to me

1188
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 1: not to have those problems. Okay, Now all that being said,

1189
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: to wrap up, he's like a good backup quarterback. To

1190
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: wrap up this conversation, we're gonna take DeMarcus Lawrence out

1191
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: of this mix. Tell me the one guy on this

1192
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: list that would be the most important signing this offseason

1193
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. That one right there, LP hit me

1194
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,439
Speaker 1: handles to me, and that just goes to show that

1195
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: you don't need a lot of those guys. You'd be okay,

1196
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: yeah if yeah, Well, that's the one guy there that

1197
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: you can absolutely rely on, like and and no, he's

1198
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: a constant guy. There's no question about his ability to

1199
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: do what he needs to do. But I'll say this,

1200
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: though they had a backup the guys that have come

1201
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: in that that are backup snappers at training camp have

1202
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: done good, good things. One of them was in the

1203
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,760
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Casey Crider was in the Pro Bowl. Another

1204
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: one Scott Daley, who here a couple of years exactly

1205
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: in that new league right now. I think for San

1206
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 1: Antonio's team, so you know, they would find another snapper,

1207
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: they'd find a good one. You know, you just keep

1208
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: finding them. But um, but it's just scary. It's a

1209
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: scary world when you when you dip your toe in

1210
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: that pool and then someone pushes you in, you can't

1211
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: swim that. That's hard. I mean, I I just think

1212
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: that the whole operation is because of LP laudasor you know,

1213
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: and the minute they start bowlering back there, then the

1214
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,439
Speaker 1: minute we need to say that was a bad idea. Yeah,

1215
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: I will say for me, Cam Fleming is that guy.

1216
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: And again it's because when I look at the importance

1217
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: of the role on this that role on this team,

1218
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: we've seen what can happen when that role isn't isn't

1219
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: somebody that can actually play. And I don't think he's great.

1220
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: I think he's the perfect backup tackle though. I think

1221
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: he's got some wartz. But if you put him in there,

1222
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: you feel pretty good that you're not going to have

1223
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: one of those days that the Cowboys had in twenty seventeen.

1224
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: In it, right, you're not gonna have that kind of day.

1225
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: You can hole, you can steady the ship, even if

1226
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: you you lose your all. I'll say this about tight end.

1227
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: When last year, when when Hitchens going into free agency,

1228
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,479
Speaker 1: linebacker was kind of an issue. There when Hitchen's left

1229
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: linebacker was a huge priority. Now you gotta go get

1230
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,959
Speaker 1: a guy if they don't resign Swain, which I don't

1231
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: think they should or make a big deal that, but

1232
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: it even reinforces even more that tight end is a

1233
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: huge priority in the draft. You've got to go get

1234
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: You know what's funny, Nick, they played games without him,

1235
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: they play they won games without him, you know, and

1236
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: when he went down and all of a sudden they're winning,

1237
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: so that in your heart you're going yeah, yeahs So

1238
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta get somebody for depth purposes and

1239
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: they like to run three tight end. Right. If you

1240
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: think the Rico experiment is kind of over, I think

1241
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: I think we should. I think the head coach would

1242
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: probably walk in there and tell you, yeah, we're going

1243
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: to play who we want to play, and yeah, yeah,

1244
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: I think it's about time to kind of move. This

1245
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: would be interesting how they structure this team now with

1246
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: a head coach. It's kind of a lame duck head

1247
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: coach because do you do you listen to him? In

1248
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: this head coaches has done a good job as an evaluator.

1249
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie there. I mean, if you want

1250
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: to a lot of things I blame him for. I

1251
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: am not gonna blame him for his evaluation skills now,

1252
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: because here this team is not a talent poor roster.

1253
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's not talent poor and a lot of

1254
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: it has to do and he talks about he talks

1255
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: about collective decisions and all that. That's true. Trust me,

1256
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: I've lived it with a head coach carries a big stick.

1257
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: Dave Campo just didn't want to hit us over the

1258
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: head with a big stick, you know, Parcells, he wanted

1259
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: to hit us over the head with a big stick.

1260
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: I think Jason Garrett's the same way, and I think

1261
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: it'd be really interesting to see with his job on

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Speaker 1: the line, Like, Okay, can we take Simmons at fifty

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Speaker 1: eight and Oh great, How happy is he gonna look?

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Speaker 1: Am I gonna take a bunch of see that ye

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Speaker 1: into the war room? Yeah? And Jason's just sitting everbody's

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Speaker 1: high fo he's that look he gave when Randy Gargery

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Speaker 1: was drafted. You know, the last thing he said, you know,

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Speaker 1: Randy Gregory said to him was you don't have to

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Speaker 1: worry about me, coach and Randy we had to worry

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Speaker 1: about you know. I don't think we're gonna I don't

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Speaker 1: think yeah, I don't think we're seeing any of those.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, we appreciate you join us. We're back. Actually,

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Speaker 1: we won't be on the show next week. We will

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Speaker 1: not be having shows next week. I am a PI

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Speaker 1: picking up this team and we are gonna go on

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Speaker 1: a little retreat for some R and R. But we

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Speaker 1: will be back the week after that. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: on the air. We'll combine the week. We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: We'll do something. Debby shows, Debby Shows. If you see

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Speaker 1: us in the City of Angels, by us a drink. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: especially Brian as though he's not already gonna be overserved.

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Speaker 1: All right, were you guys join us? We'll see you

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Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. So then for Nick even

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us Amber Garcia. I'm Derekypen. This has been

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