1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleb Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: sure to catch us. 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: Live every weekday three to five, twelve two Pacific on 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Doug 5 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 2: live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching apps 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: car Booming Up America Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great day. The Doug Gottlieb 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: Show broadcast live every day. We're sort of by coastal. 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: We're on the coast of Wisconsin and the coast of 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: California as well. The boys are out and enjoy the sunshine. 12 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm stuck in here with the snow, but we're here 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: with you for the next two hours plus. We have 14 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: an hour podcast which follows this show, which you can 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: hear every day, every single day if you just type 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: in the name Doug Gottlieb Show wherever you download podcasts. 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: Welcome In this hour of the show, John Middlcoff will 18 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: join us as we'll ask him not just about the NFL, 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: but about the news that archbe He is officially returning 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: to Texas next year, which it was part of the plan. 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: We did discuss it in the preseason, we did discuss 22 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: it in the summer, and it is part of what 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: the Mannings have always done, and based upon the unevenness 24 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: of some of his performances, it does make sense. But 25 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: it also makes it so there's one less big name 26 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: on that draft board for the upcoming NFL Draft before 27 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: we get to the NFL Draft, and teams will need 28 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: a quarterback, like maybe the Pittsburgh Steelers. They took down 29 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins last night. Dolphins are on the playoffs. 30 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: Dolphins were down twenty eight to three. Game was essentially over. 31 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: Super slow start for the Dolphins. The offense was not 32 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: good against the Steelers defense, which is mid as the kid. 33 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: Do the kids still say mid? I don't know. It 34 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: feels like once I start saying mid, it's definitely over. 35 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: Seems like it's been replaced by six to seven. 36 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 4: That's so mid. 37 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: This is me and the YouTube channel. I'm doing the 38 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: six to seven thing, which again was like a throwaway 39 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: line from a rap song, but it's unbelievable. Tomorrow night 40 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: we play you see Santa Barbara at the Cress Events Center, 41 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: and I'm guessing once we when you get to sixty seven, 42 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: all the every kid goes crazy. 43 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 5: That just can't do it. 44 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: Anyway, I want to take this moment to recognize something 45 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: that is amazing, Right, Jason and I both search for 46 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: things that are interesting. This is something that's amazing. You 47 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: ready for it. Here's what it is. Pittsburgh Steelers are 48 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: probably gonna finish above five hundred again. And like this 49 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: is the Mike Tomlin thing. It doesn't matter how average 50 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: they look. And again I understand that when you're eight 51 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: nine or nine and eight, you're by definition you're a 52 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: mediocre your averager slightly above. But his calling card is 53 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: he's never finished below five hundred, right, never finished below 54 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: five hundred. And now here they are. They're at eight 55 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: and six. They beat the Ravens on the road, they 56 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: beat the Dolphins at home. They have the Lions on 57 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: the road upcoming Sunday, then the Browns on the road, 58 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: then the Ravens at home. Ten and seven is not 59 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: close to being out of the question. And yet does 60 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: anybody think the Steelers are are really good? Like there 61 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: they were good last night, But are they really good? 62 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 6: Not? 63 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: Really? It's there is something amazing about not ever losing 64 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: your team, and by losing your team, I mean they 65 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: just won't play for you. You know there, you won't. 66 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: You can yell and scream and rant and rave, you 67 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: give them the best game play in the world, but 68 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: the second they hit ad verse, theyd like, eh, I'm good, 69 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm good. Now. Some of it is in the players 70 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: that you go acquire, and I do think there's a 71 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: little bit of something of what they've done there, which 72 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to say desperation, but is an extra 73 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: piece of motivation for some of these guys. Some of 74 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: them are this is their last year, Aaron Rodgers, probably 75 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: last year playing. They've acquired a lot of one year guys, 76 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: but they've also gotten some guys kind of off the 77 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: scrap heap that are trying to prove themselves. Here is 78 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: here's bet here's excuse me, here's Aaron Rodgers talking about 79 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: how the win helps for the playoff push. 80 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 4: Obviously, the division game is the most important game, but 81 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 4: these guys have won four four straight. Coming in we know, 82 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 4: well some of us, maybe a few of us know 83 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 4: about how obviously the first way to get to the 84 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 4: playoffs is win your division. There's you haven't beaten Baltimore already. 85 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 4: There's obviously time breakers that come into effect, including divisional record, 86 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 4: conference record, so winning near AFC games are really important. 87 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 4: Keeping the one game leap plus the head to head as. 88 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: Big as well. 89 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: That is crazy. I think maybe the craziest thing is 90 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: that we all act like the NFC. The AFC North 91 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: is the best and toughest division in football, right, don't know? 92 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: We we have a tendency to do that. We're like 93 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: man AFC North, brutal division. Steelers, Ravens, Bengals, got Joe Burrow, 94 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: a lot of talent Browns. You could make a case 95 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: and I think I will that while I'm not trying 96 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: to dismiss as a matter of fact, I think it's amazing. 97 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: I'm not dismissing Pittsburgh's resilience in any way. But does 98 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: anybody think Pittsburgh's an elite football team? And yet here 99 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: they are a game up with a favorable schedule that 100 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: looks like they're gonna win their division, and they're gonna 101 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: win nine and they'll probably win ten games. And how 102 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: can I tell you other than just your eyes telling 103 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: you that they're not a great football team. Well, anybody 104 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: they played any good they did beat the Patriots in 105 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: the third week of the season on the road, but 106 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: outside of that, Seahawks housed them. Packer game wasn't crazy close. 107 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: Chargers are all banged up and they could do nothing 108 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: with the Chargers. The Bears beat them, granted, close game 109 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: on the road. The Bills smoked them in their own building. 110 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: They did beat the Colts when the Colts were healthy 111 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: or healthy or when they had Danny Dimes. And now 112 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: they have the Lions next. Like, you can make the 113 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: case that there's the NFC South and the AFC North 114 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: are the two worst divisions in football, But then of 115 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: course the AFC South is like, hey, yeah, hey, Philip 116 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: Rivers just started for the Colts. We got one good 117 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: team in this division. But still, I think there's a 118 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: lot to it. I think Tomlin's ability to continue to 119 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: get to the guys to where he doesn't lose his 120 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: team is really impressive. I do think that Aaron Rodgers, 121 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: he's not close to Aaron Rodgers before, but he's still 122 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: really good and it's gonna be fun to watch him 123 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. If you hate Aaron Rodgers, it's gonna 124 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: be fun to watch him lose his last game because 125 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: they're not gonna go to a super Bowl. They're not gonna 126 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: win a super Bowl. I think the Steelers defense, while 127 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: it looked good early last night, is again very average 128 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: that they tried to throw together for a year. This 129 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: is not a great football team, but it is one 130 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: that finds a way to win, that finds a way 131 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: to get above five hundred, that's gonna find a way 132 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: to get in the playoffs. The other side to it 133 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: is it does show you just how crummy the AFC 134 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: North is this year. Some of that's injuries with the 135 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: Bengals and lack of defense of the Bengals. The Browns 136 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: are just a dysfunctional bag of poop, and the Ravens 137 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: are stunningly below average this year for the first time 138 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: really since Lamar Jackson became their starting quarterback. Dan Bio, 139 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: how'd I do on my synopsis of the AFC. 140 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 7: North, Yeah, pretty good. I think you gotta give a 141 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 7: little bit more credit to the AFC South because I 142 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 7: think that the Texans are good and the Jaguars are good. 143 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 7: But on the AFC North, I don't think that there's 144 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 7: anything last night that would make me think that that 145 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 7: this was a Steelers team that was for real. I'm 146 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,559 Speaker 7: not a huge Aaron Rodgers fan, but he is having 147 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 7: his moments last night, and there are quarterbacks that couldn't 148 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 7: do what he was able to do. So it's a 149 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 7: nice story, but I just don't think it's going to 150 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 7: affect anything in the grand scheme of how the AFC 151 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 7: playoff picture plays out. 152 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna have an honest Doug moment. You 153 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: ready for it? 154 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 3: Mm hmm? 155 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: I forgot the Texans were an AFC South That's all right. 156 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: I just I always think of like, well, the Jaguar, 157 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: the Colts, and then like Titans. The Titans are terrible, 158 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: and I just I was just thinking Colts sense injury, 159 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: not very good? Right, No, they were a good story. 160 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: And go ahead. 161 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 7: The Patriots game that the Steelers won, a twenty one 162 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 7: to fourteen game. New England turned the ball over five 163 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 7: times in that game and a goal line fumble as well, 164 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 7: So if maybe New England only turns it over three times, 165 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 7: it's a Patriots victory. So to your point of, yeah, 166 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 7: they're not beating teams that are better than them, they're 167 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 7: beating teams that aren't better than them. 168 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. 169 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: It is amazing that the Mike Tomlin thing and everybody 170 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: tries to run him out of town. Here's Ben Roethlisberger 171 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: on his podcast last week talking about Tomlin and the 172 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: Steelers need a fresh start, just because. 173 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 6: I said that, you know, there's a time for like maybe. 174 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: Some new things. 175 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 6: That that's just saying that. I think, you know, coach Tomlin, 176 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 6: if he wants to move on, he has every right 177 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 6: to want to move all. It's not they should it. 178 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 6: So it's up to him, you know, and he's earned 179 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 6: that right and that if he wants to go do 180 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 6: something else he can't should have We should honor him 181 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 6: when that time comes. Whenever that is. Maybe he wants 182 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 6: to coach your that's. 183 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: Fine too, Ben Roethlisberger. He played tight end before he 184 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: played quarterback. That was really good footwork as a cornerback. 185 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: That was some about Hey, if he wants to stay 186 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: here for next ten years, hey, let's do it, right Ben, 187 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: Ben Ben learning very quickly about spoken word instead of 188 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: just going ah. And by the way, you can own 189 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: what she said, like you could Ben could have just 190 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: gone like, look, the Dolphins are crummy. Great, we beat 191 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: the Dolphins. That shouldn't be the nine and eight every 192 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: year or ten and seven shouldn't be the standard of 193 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: the Steelers. We're trying to win super Bowls here, okay, 194 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: and I won one every year. We came in trying 195 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: to win a super Bowl. We have him in close recently. 196 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: This is we're gonna get into it in the podcast, 197 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: me and Jay stew because you know, Cam Newton, he 198 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: wants to be like, Hey, if you want to be 199 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: a black quarterback and be on television, watch what I do. 200 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: But the problem is he's you know, he dresses like 201 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: a clown. The subject matter he talks about. Oftentimes more 202 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: podcasts and first take are more clownish than serious. Not 203 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: that you have to be serious, but it's not in 204 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: the football analysis kind of spectrum. But I mean, Ben Roethlisberger, 205 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: you're just former Super Bowl champion quarterback, longtime Pittsburgh Steeler, 206 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: and you offer up a strong take, you're either wrong 207 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: or you double down. What you don't do is what 208 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: he's like, Eh, I listen, I just said it, because 209 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: he can if he wants to lave, he can leave. 210 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 8: Yes, Jason stewartt the best part about what he said 211 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 8: on the podcast was not only did they say that 212 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 8: they should probably clean house and that he needs a 213 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 8: new start somewhere, he also was like, Hey, the Penn 214 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 8: State job's open, maybe he should do that would be 215 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 8: a nice soft land And I think he's what he said. 216 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 8: I guess Ben forgot that. Mike Tomlin delivered one of 217 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 8: the best sound bites in the history of sports in 218 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 8: twenty twenty one when some unlucky reporter in the room 219 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 8: asked him about the rumors about the USC job. 220 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 9: Hey, guys, I don't have time for that speculation. I mean, 221 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 9: that's a joke to me. I got one of the 222 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 9: best jobs in all of professional sport. Why would I 223 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 9: have any interest in coaching college football. That'll be the 224 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 9: last time to address it, and not only today, but 225 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 9: moving forward. Never say never, but never. Okay, anybody else 226 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 9: got any questions about any college jobs? Is not a 227 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 9: booster with a big enough blank check. Anybody asking Sean 228 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 9: Payton about that, you know, anybody asking Andy Reid about 229 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 9: stuff like that. 230 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: No, that's amazing that I forgot how good it was. 231 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 1: I know you love that sound bite, and we've played 232 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: it like three different times, maybe four I do. Every 233 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: time I hear it, I forget how good it is. 234 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Ben just showing how he does. I don't 235 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: think he's wrong that it may be everybody thinks if 236 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: they see and then's poorly, you're probably gonna clean house. 237 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: This is like a one year all in thing. And 238 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if Tomlin wants to come back and rebuild, 239 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: start a new quarterback or whatever, or Mike Tomlin could 240 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: easily go into TV. Now, are you guys gonna you 241 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: guys disagree with me with Russell Wilson being on TV? 242 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: Are you gonna disagree with me that Tomlin would get 243 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: a TV job? Literally, when he's walking out of his 244 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: press conference if he. 245 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 7: Ever resigned, Absolutely, yes, yes, I mean he's see you later, 246 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 7: Bill Kauer, Yes, goodbye, Yeah, I'll replace again somebody. 247 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: He's literally he could sit there and go watch all 248 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: the networks in the pregame shows and go like, hmm, 249 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: I like that seat right there. That's the one. No, no, no, 250 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: when his if he doesn't like Bill Kawer, Bill Cower's gone. 251 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: If he doesn't like how he how, he's gone. If 252 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: he doesn't like straight hand, straight Hand's gone. But that 253 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: was some rather impressive and nifty backpedaling from Big Ben. Right, Look, Ben, 254 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: here's how it works. If you really believe that does faring, 255 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: just own it. Just go hey man, that was great. 256 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: I'm so happy they won. They're getting a bunch out 257 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: of it. We all know this thing is run its course. 258 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: It's time to start over in the meanwhile or meanwhile 259 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: Steelers are they're not definitely going to the playoffs. Feels 260 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: that way got a great shot to win this division, 261 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: which means a home game the playoffs. 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I was thinking about this, Dan, 272 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: I've been doing national sports radio since two thousand and three. Right, 273 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: so twenty two years, and it's kind of crazy that 274 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: Lebron James still playing basketball, right, yes, right, I mean 275 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: think about that, like that's that's a long time doing 276 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: national sports radio, even longer time to play, right. And 277 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: then I was thinking about Aaron Rodgers and how long 278 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: he's played him, like, man, it's really remarkable. How many 279 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: Monday Night football games do you think you've seen Aaron 280 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: Rodgers play. He's played twenty one years in the NFL. 281 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 10: Twelve years, So do you have the number? 282 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: I don't. Oh, okay, again, this is not a I researched, 283 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: it got ya whatever, none of that. I'm gonna guess again. 284 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna guess here. So he got hurt with 285 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: the Jets on Monday Night football, right, And I think 286 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: there was probably one last year, so you got to 287 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: guess there's like one to two a year, so I'm 288 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: guessing it's like thirty times. Plus you have some Thanksgiving 289 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: games which are not Monday Night football, but they're the 290 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: standalone variety. It feels like my entire adult life, I've 291 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: been watching Aaron Rodgers throw football. 292 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 7: That's really my Yeah, And Aaron Rodgers was probably throwing 293 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 7: the football on Monday Night Football when Monday Night Football 294 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 7: was king like I can't remember the exact year that 295 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 7: it changed over on the where then Sunday Night Football 296 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 7: was getting all of the good games. But he probably 297 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 7: was a part of that era. 298 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, was it six or seven? I was 299 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: at ESPN at the time. Mark Shapiro was our boss. 300 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: Mark Shapiro now is second in charge of what is it? 301 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: They've changed the name of the Ari Golds Agency. What 302 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: was it? 303 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 10: I don't know. 304 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: Well, they own you know, WWE, and they own w 305 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: and they own they own everything. Anyway, March Bureau is 306 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: our boss, and I remember him saying, like, you know, 307 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: we got a hold on of Monday Night Football and 308 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: we're probably gonna lose Sunday Night Football. They lost Sunday 309 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: Night Football and everything changed after that, everything changed. I'm 310 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: gonna go I'm gonna go seven buyer again. This is 311 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: only a guess because I remember it might have been 312 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: O six. It was very early on am I run 313 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: in the ESPN which started oh. 314 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 10: Three, I just looked. 315 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 7: I think it's two thousand and six. I think I 316 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 7: think that's what I'm what I'm seeing here. So yes, 317 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 7: Sunday Night Football on NBC began airing on August sixth, 318 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 7: two thousand and six, with the Hall of Fame game. 319 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: Wow. So and for people who forget, like NBC lost 320 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: the NFL, wasn't in the NFL. It was kind of 321 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: a nothing. Now NBC is like backpack, you know, they 322 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,239 Speaker 1: got NBA now the college football and of course they 323 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: have a Football Night in America. But I just I 324 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: was watching last night and I was getting a little nostalgia, Like, damn, 325 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: I've seen Aaron Rodgers play a lot of football, a lot, 326 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: a lot, a lot crazy and still like you said, 327 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: I thought you nailed it. They're just he has He's 328 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: not great anymore, but he is great in moments and 329 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: you're like, no one throws it. He's just such a 330 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: unique style to playing the position. There's nobody before and 331 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: nobody since he started playing that looks or throws like him. 332 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: Nobody imitates that. But yeah, it's fun to watch. It's 333 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: fun to wat. 334 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 7: I think it's I think it's very safe to say 335 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 7: that the Steelers would not be in this spot without 336 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers this year, and they're about to win the division, 337 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 7: like they can lose them. 338 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: That part, it's crazy part that they're gonna win. And 339 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: it's not they're gonna win division. They're gonna win the 340 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: AFC North, which normally when you go aft is like 341 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: whoa stuck out leap show. This is Fox Sports Radio. 342 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: Have you heard about trainer games? Add this to your 343 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: binge list. Ten athletes go ahead to head for a 344 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: chance to win an I fit contract worth two hundred 345 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars, streaming on Prime Video starting January eighth. 346 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: John Mitocoff joins us he has a podcast. It's called 347 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: three and Out. It's on the Volume podcast network. John, 348 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: I'm watching last night. I can't believe I'm still watching it. 349 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: Rodgers play football. Even more surprising is the Steelers, who 350 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: I've watched all year long, are in prime position to 351 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: win the AFC North. How did this happen? 352 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 11: Well, Burrow missed the majority of the year, so I 353 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 11: mean that cost him a ton of games. The Ravens 354 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 11: start was just atrocious, and they've kind of been all 355 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 11: over the map till they kind of showed some signs 356 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,239 Speaker 11: of life last week. And the Steelers started fast. So 357 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 11: you get a four and one start, you have Burrow disappearing, 358 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 11: and were the Ravens won in five if I remember correctly, 359 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 11: So you gave yourself a little buffer because, let's face it, 360 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 11: up until the last couple of weeks, the Steelers were 361 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 11: leaking serious oil, right. I mean, they had lost a 362 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 11: ton of games playing good teams, and it does feel 363 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 11: like they got their mojo back a little bit. Obviously, 364 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 11: that Ravens game was huge, but even last night, you know, 365 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 11: to uh, you know his numbers if you if you 366 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 11: didn't watch the game, he's looking at the box score, 367 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 11: He's like, ah, pretty good game, which obviously wasn't the case. 368 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 11: But the Miami Dolphins defense for the first I would 369 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 11: say ninety percent of the first half was playing pretty good. 370 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 11: And then they have that long drive at the end 371 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 11: of the first half. Score touchdown, score a touchdown, right, 372 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 11: and you know, start the second half, and let's be real, 373 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 11: you're up fourteen to fourteen to three in that weather 374 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 11: that was freezing cold. 375 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 9: It felt like the. 376 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 11: Game was over. And then obviously you get a couple 377 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 11: more scores, but once they had the fourteen three lead, 378 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 11: it just didn't feel like Miami, unless they busted some 379 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 11: long run, was going to be able to score. And listen, 380 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 11: you know, Aaron I've been saying forever. I bet if 381 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 11: you've got Dan Marino right now, just have him throw 382 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 11: a ten yard out rout. It looked great. His arm 383 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 11: looks really good. He's obviously really smart. You know, they 384 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 11: have some limitations on offense because the personnel, But if 385 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 11: DK's going to make some big plays, I mean, Darnel 386 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 11: Washington's monster, I mean, he's probably I mean, if I 387 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 11: was him, I would try to become like a hybrid 388 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 11: right tackle tight end because the tackles make a little 389 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 11: bit more. But he probably likes getching touchdowns and make 390 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 11: them play. And then defensively, you just got to hope 391 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 11: that dry needling with TJ. Watt, which I've never been 392 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 11: dry needled. It sounds pretty painful. But hopefully he's okay. 393 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 11: And you know, they can win the division. I mean 394 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 11: there's a chance this week, right and now they got 395 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 11: a tough game going to Detroit on a short week. 396 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 11: But if the Patriots take down the Ravens and they win, 397 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 11: I mean, this thing could get away from the Ravens fast. 398 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean, plus the Ravens got to come to their place. 399 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: They have two winnable games, how about this one? So 400 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard Dan Buyer's update, but 401 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: McDaniel said all options are on the table at quarterback 402 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: March fourteenth of this year to his contract for next 403 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: year became fully guaranteed. That's fifty four million dollars. Jeez, 404 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: what do you do? 405 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean my take last night was I think 406 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,479 Speaker 11: you got to cut him because at this point, I mean, 407 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 11: he's regressed. It's crazy. I mean we could have nitpicked 408 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 11: him a couple of years ago, but he was a 409 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 11: solid player. I mean it feels like this year, as 410 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 11: the year went out on, they started winning games because 411 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 11: they stopped having him passed. And then I mean it's 412 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 11: not even debatable. I mean he can't pass in the COLT, 413 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 11: which listen, but he's not alone. A lot of players can't, right, 414 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 11: and a lot of people, you know, he's a Wian guy, 415 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 11: played in the South. Now he's in Miami. Like you 416 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 11: just it's tough, but like, you can't function as a 417 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 11: quarterback and win important games if you can't play in 418 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 11: the COLT, especially in that conference. I mean, look at 419 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 11: their division Buffalo, dw England and New York. I mean 420 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 11: there's no avoiding it. So I just think I would 421 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 11: have the mindset in the offseason because I think it's 422 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 11: pretty difficult to trade him. Now, maybe you could eat some. 423 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: Money in dead cap money next year. Yeah, I four 424 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: million guaranteed. 425 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 11: I think what I think you think about almost doing it. 426 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 11: But they're gonna have a new GM. I mean the 427 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 11: Sean Paytonside move, Russell Wilson and just eating it. And 428 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 11: I think it gets back to you and I were 429 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 11: talking then it made no sense when they extended him 430 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 11: like I didn't. Kyler Murray Won made even less. But 431 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 11: Kyler is a more physically gifted player than Tua. I 432 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 11: just never understood the to a contract. I just been 433 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 11: and we've seen in recent memory, right the last couple 434 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 11: of years, the Raiders made a tough decision with Carr, 435 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 11: with Josh McDaniels, like if they kind of knew after 436 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 11: last offseason like you might want to pivot, and they 437 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 11: still stood strong, So you could argue they made this 438 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 11: bad and now they got to lay in it. 439 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: What's amazing about it is And look, I don't make 440 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: no one makes all great calls, and I don't purport 441 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: myself to be a football analyst, but the guys can 442 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: tell you, and you know, I you know, I've never 443 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: been a believer into his arm. And remember the Dolphins, 444 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: I think it was year two in the preseason, they 445 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: kept throwing out their footage of him throwing the ball 446 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: along to Tyreek Hill. I think when they got him whatever, 447 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, and as if go like, no, no, really, 448 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: he's got a great arm, and he like he doesn't. 449 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: I remember going to that Charger game. I don't know 450 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: three four years ago at so far when? Uh who 451 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: was it who made the comments guys on Fox about 452 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: it about u about being a to a guy, not 453 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: being a Herbert guy. And if you went to that game, Ocho, yes, 454 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: yeah it was Emanuaco made comments about Justin Herbert being 455 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: a social media quarterback and he's not that good to 456 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: is the And if you went I went to that game. 457 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: It was night and day, like one guy looked like 458 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: a big time quarterback, the other guy looked like a 459 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: backup and he just didn't have the arm for it 460 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: was the last. 461 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 11: Two weeks and then guy's got a broken hands. He's 462 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 11: playing you know, physical defenses. I mean Herbert the last 463 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 11: couple of weeks, like anyone with a brain knew how 464 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 11: talented he is. But you go up a different level 465 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 11: in sports and specifically football, when it's like, this guy's 466 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 11: one of the toughest guys in the league, I think 467 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 11: the last couple of weeks. I mean, and we know 468 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 11: his coach is crazy when it comes to toughness in 469 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 11: the intangibles, like I think he kind of became like 470 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 11: legendary status within that organization. I mean, let's Philip fell 471 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 11: off a cliff at the end, physically couldn't move in 472 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 11: his arm, but no one ever questioned. I mean, look 473 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 11: at him a couple of days ago, like Rivers toughness. 474 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 11: You know, players did have been around him, coaches that 475 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 11: they I mean, look at Shane Psyche loves the guy 476 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 11: because he's just a tough dude. Pervert to me, is 477 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 11: I mean, he's a throwback right the eighties, nineties, two thousands, 478 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 11: and you have that physical gifts. I mean, he's him 479 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 11: and the Jim harbonugh toughness of the franchise. They have 480 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 11: no business hit a ten win team right now with 481 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 11: their injuries, do they? 482 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: Yeah? None, none. I you know, it's it's this is 483 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: what they do, how they try and get out of 484 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: this contract or what they try and do is I 485 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: don't know it's gonna be really interesting. I don't know. 486 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: I don't know enough about cap manipulation. I just don't 487 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: know how you get out of ninety nine million dollars 488 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: in the dead cap money. Oh, stug otleeb show here 489 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, we've got a bunch of 490 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: other stuff to get to with. John Middlcoff, of course, 491 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: Three and Out is is his podcast on the Volume 492 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: Podcast Network. Let's go back to Sunday now, as the 493 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: Kansait Chiefs are no longer a playoff threat, this is 494 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: the team that has dominated the AFC. So rebuild versus reload. 495 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: My thought on the difference in the two is not 496 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: just in semantics, it's in this John. A reload is 497 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: you go through the draft. You know that the first 498 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: year it's going to be a little wonky, but you're 499 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: building for the long term. The reload that that's the rebuild. 500 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: The reload is when you go to free agency and 501 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: you try and fill the holes and try and win. Win. Now, 502 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: which is this which is the smarter thing to do? 503 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: Considering mahomes is coming off the acl entery age, considering 504 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: what their team. 505 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 11: Looks like, well, I think it's going to be a 506 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 11: hybrid play for the what, let's face it, I mean, 507 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 11: now they have a lot of pride. I mean, there's 508 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 11: a legendary run. They're better off losing these last three games, right, 509 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 11: and it might just happen with Gardner Minshew playing quarterback. 510 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 11: And you know, coach Read, you know this, he's a 511 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 11: made man like kind of can manipulate it a little bit. 512 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 11: So there's a big difference. They've drafted basically thirtieth or 513 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 11: thirty first or thirty seconds the last several years. 514 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: Right. 515 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 11: Well, now all of a sudden, you're drafting twelfth or fourteenth, 516 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 11: and that's in every round. So let's say your first 517 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 11: four picks, you could get maybe three long term starters 518 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 11: and maybe one high end guy, so you can change 519 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 11: your franchise fast. And the other thing is like DALs 520 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 11: in the room is Kelsey. He's we all thought he 521 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 11: was going to retire coming into the season. Now it 522 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 11: probably feels inevitable, right, And I do think the other 523 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 11: thing is Chris Jones. Last year, they traded Joe Toney 524 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 11: to the Bears, and coach Reid said after the deal, 525 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 11: I think during free agency, like he's one of my 526 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 11: favorite players We've ever coached, but in this financial situation, 527 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 11: we didn't have a choice. I think Chris Jones is 528 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 11: done man when it comes to I think he's his 529 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 11: last year on the Chief. He's going to be traded 530 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 11: this offseason. So I just think they're going to look 531 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 11: dramatically different, and it's it could bleed into next year. 532 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 11: Like if there's any sort of question with Mahomes, you're 533 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,479 Speaker 11: a one not rushing him back. And maybe next year 534 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 11: in a weird way, is kind of a throwaway year 535 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 11: and you know, going, I don't know, six seven wins again, 536 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 11: it's not the worst thing to kind of just kind 537 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 11: of get your cap back on track, get Mahomes healthy. 538 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 11: Because the other thing. 539 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: Is, did you did you say six seven? Six seven wins? Seven? 540 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 5: Sorry, you're you're you're more in. 541 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 11: That world around the young people than than I am. 542 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 11: But yeah, I don't know. He's too good of a coach, 543 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 11: even if you know he rolled me or you out 544 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 11: there playing quarterback like they would ever. 545 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: Looked like the Raiders, right, I know, I know, it's 546 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: it's a it's an interesting one, right, like, well, he's 547 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: gonna coach, They're gonna win, But are they gonna win too? 548 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: Many games, all right, real quickly? Can you envision the 549 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: Packers making a super Bowl run without Micah Parsons and 550 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: without Tucker Craft, without all the can you can you 551 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: envision that with the Packers? 552 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 9: Yeah? 553 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 11: I do think super Bowl run is over, but I 554 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 11: you know, and I did this like most people are like, oh, 555 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 11: they're done. That's not usually how football works, right, They're 556 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 11: They're defense still pretty good, but they could win this week. 557 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 11: They could win a playoff game. Harder to envision them 558 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 11: just rattle off three straight playoff victories and be in 559 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 11: the super Bowl. And this is coming from someone that 560 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 11: had a super Bowl ticket on them to play the Broncos. 561 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 11: It was gonna be a pretty lucrative Fay out and 562 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 11: I felt pretty good about it. But Mike has been 563 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 11: pretty awesome for them, and they're just no replacing that. 564 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 11: Like the next man up. You can say next man 565 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 11: up when it's like a rotational linebacker. You don't say 566 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 11: the next man up when it's Michael Parson's. 567 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 9: So I do. 568 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 11: Think Matt Lafleur, though you win this week, you know, 569 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 11: happily get the defense rolling, like those two guys that 570 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 11: happily you want to be a head coach in the 571 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 11: NFL the floor. You want an extension, like they can 572 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 11: still prove a lot like winning a playoff game now, 573 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 11: I think like gets them a lot of credit. Where 574 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 11: before Mike is injured, what do you think anything less 575 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 11: than an NFC championship appearance would have been a disaster. Yes, 576 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 11: now the bar's lowered, but I still think with their talents, 577 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 11: they still got a quarterback, they still got an offensive 578 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 11: play call where they got a good defense. I don't 579 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 11: think it's inconceivable they can win a playoff game. I 580 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 11: mean they a couple of years ago, they went to 581 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 11: Dallas and killed them, and you could argue, this team, 582 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 11: assuming Watston's going to be okay, is better than that team. 583 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 9: Right. 584 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, the defense is still good. 585 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 11: You know, it's not as like it was a lead. 586 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,479 Speaker 1: The quarterbacks aren't very good, but they're covered up by 587 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: the fact that you have Michael Parsons being held every 588 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: time by like three guys. I want to see what 589 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: it looks like looks like without them, that's that's what 590 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: they want. I want to say. 591 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 11: It's devastating because also he was he was everything they 592 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 11: could have wanted from a speed rusher, and how hard 593 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 11: he was playing, yeah, and he you know, he's not 594 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 11: a power guy. He's a speed guy. So it's like 595 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 11: you just get you like Mahomes, you got to be 596 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 11: very cautious. You can't exact well, you gotta have him 597 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 11: back for September next year. It's like, well, you pay 598 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 11: him one hundred and eighty eight million, you gotta like 599 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 11: you might not see him next year to like November. 600 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: Right, I don't think you will. I mean, I suppose 601 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: it's an LCL, not just an ACL tear. That's why 602 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: you had the surgery done already. So John Mittalcoff, NFL 603 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: analyst three and out podcast host Johnny are the best man. 604 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. 605 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 5: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 606 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 5: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 607 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. I be anika to 608 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: uh all my peeps, and a merry Christmas to my 609 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: Christian brothers out there and sisters. Uh. We got a 610 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: good hour for you up coming Tuesday morning. Quarterback in 611 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: the afternoon. And I've seen the topics that most people 612 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: get to and I thought of another one that I 613 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: want to add. So I'm gonna probably get in on 614 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: there twice and I just be warned another one. That's 615 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: that's top of next hour. It's all the topics that 616 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: we want to get to. We just didn't have time 617 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: yesterday because there's kind of top item a topics and 618 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,719 Speaker 1: these are a b ers if you will, Let's get 619 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: to Dan Byer and get to a game. 620 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 5: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 621 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 7: Doug as well, if I can add to that, there 622 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 7: was a segment that we once did every Tuesday on 623 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 7: the Doug Gottlieb Show. It was called Buyer's Remorse. Yeah, 624 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 7: there will be some Buyer's Remorse coming up as well. 625 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 7: In Tuesday Morning Quarterback or Tuesday afternoon, Monday Morning Quarterback 626 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 7: and two, what's the game today? 627 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 10: Let's just go there. What do we what do we got? 628 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 5: Sam rank them? 629 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 7: Tuesday Morning Quarterback, that's right, Tuesday Morning Quarterback in the afternoon. 630 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 7: That's right, Jay, Right, that's the title. 631 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 3: I'm wondering whatever happened to Buyer's Remorse? Ye? Who made 632 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 3: the executive decision to acts that one? 633 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 7: It just stopped appearing on the rundown, so it just disappeared. 634 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 7: But that's all right. 635 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 3: The most common question I get when I'm out walking 636 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 3: the street. Whatever happened to Buyer's remorse? 637 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 7: Well, I've got one for you coming up in about 638 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 7: ten minutes or so. 639 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: But now we as went around for the judge. We 640 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: have a say called the Judge. 641 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 10: Judge. 642 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 7: Yes, Judge Gottlie worked out really well. It was the 643 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 7: whole deal, all right. Doug ranked the top three teams 644 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 7: in the NFL through sixteen weeks of the season. 645 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, I'm kind of ranking one team 646 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: sort of blindly. Like I've stayed away from talking about 647 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: them because I really liked their quarterback and I don't 648 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: think he did much of anything this weekend to win 649 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: him a game. But they're they're legit good and for 650 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: a long time I wouldn't talk about him because Dan, 651 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: they're your team. 652 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:04,479 Speaker 10: I knew it. 653 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: Yep, Seahawks at three. All right, I'm good putting the 654 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 1: Seahawks at three. Now it gets interesting, Okay, I think 655 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the Broncos at two. That team is 656 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,479 Speaker 1: real man, best red zone defense in the NFL, and 657 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: not in love with their quarterback, but they got a 658 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: great play caller and every third down they had somebody open. 659 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: They just did Broncos at two and at one. I'm 660 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: gonna go to the La Rams. I like their defense, 661 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: like their team. I know they face off of the 662 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: Seahawks this weekend, but they also have a Super Bowl 663 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: champion quarterback and an unbelievable at play caller. Go with 664 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: the Rams as the best team in football. 665 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 7: All right, Doug, you we're gonna get this question. We 666 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 7: had it last week. We've got it again. Rank your 667 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 7: top three NFL MVP candidates. We had a showdown of 668 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 7: two candidates this past weekend in Foxborough between the Bills 669 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 7: and Patriots. Who are your top three MVP candidates right now? 670 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: Well, I'm I'm gonna keep Mattta. I'm gonna put Matt 671 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: Stafford at uh at. I'm putting at Matt Stafford at one. 672 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 10: Okay, he's the favorite right now. 673 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Josh Allen at two, and I'll put 674 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: Drake May at three. 675 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 7: All right, By the way, finally Las Vegas is coming 676 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 7: around to my take, Jackson Smith and Jigba at one 677 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 7: hundred to one. There are no odds for Sam Donald, 678 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 7: so he effectively passed Sam Donald. But it's Stafford May 679 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 7: and Allen in that order. Stafford right now two to 680 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 7: five minus two fifty to win the MVP. All right, Doug, 681 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 7: NBA Cup tonight in Las Vegas, rank the three best 682 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 7: cities for NBA expansion because this event could be moving 683 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 7: out of Vegas because no one was showing up. 684 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: We're leaving Las Vegas. Believe in love. I mean the 685 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: obvious ones are Seattle and Nashville. Right, Okay, obvious ones 686 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: need top three? 687 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 10: Yes, Nas show. 688 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: Where am I forgetting? There's somewhere else. 689 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:05,959 Speaker 10: That's very Kansas City. 690 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: I love Kansas City. I do think it's a little 691 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: bit more of a college town, but it'd be great. 692 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 10: You've only got ten seconds, so. 693 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: Sure, let's go Kansas City and then Nashville, then Seattle. 694 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 10: Nashville and Seattle. All right, and that's game. 695 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: Time Tuesday morning. Quarterback in the afternoon is next? What 696 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: stories do we have to get in that we missed yesterday? 697 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 1: Find out Next to Doug otlib Show