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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast are huge in Japan. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented my new era. My name is Dan Hansus and

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by a room fella. There I was Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg Rosantal. What's up boys? Hey Nan? Yeah, Greg,

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Speaker 1: with his own life, became huge in Japan by marrying

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Speaker 1: a woman who hails from Japan. Oh yeah, she you know,

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Speaker 1: she more than we families in Japan. She was California

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Speaker 1: Japan growing. But I go, I go a lot. I'm big.

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Speaker 1: It's nice being around people where I'm an average height.

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Speaker 1: Are you average height? When you go to Japan's they're

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Speaker 1: probably a little short. But no, there's yeah, it makes sense.

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Speaker 1: I'm like the tallest person in our family. Very cultural. Great,

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Speaker 1: are you really? I mean we're all about the same.

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Speaker 1: She's not like an oak tree, you know. Um, not

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Speaker 1: an insult. I'm just saying, like, there are people that

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Speaker 1: and also all the men in the family. Well no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not counting, and by the way you have it,

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not counting my brother and my father.

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Speaker 1: The people I grew up with. That's no longer my family.

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Speaker 1: Second about my Japanese family. Bad news for the arrest

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Speaker 1: of the Rosenthal clan, Greg is basically this owned you

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Speaker 1: over the last Um. Welcome back, everybody. This is the

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Speaker 1: Wednesday Show, the Wednesday Video Show, which you could check

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Speaker 1: which will go up tonight Wednesday at nine pm Eastern

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Speaker 1: six pm Pacific. You overseas figure it out. Figure it out,

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Speaker 1: any point this week after that and watch it. There

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Speaker 1: Being told in the inner ear piece that it's nine

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Speaker 1: isn't it. No, I think it's always been nine. It's

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Speaker 1: a rough start for It's gonna be a lot to

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Speaker 1: overcome anyway, alright, So deal with it, um, West. You

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Speaker 1: celebrating the Cincinnati Bengals bowing out of the playoffs immediately

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Speaker 1: on the first Saturday of January. But you know we

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Speaker 1: do get every year NFL preseason. Can I know you

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Speaker 1: love the NFL preseason? Was it's coming up, it's starting

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Speaker 1: in Earnest. Well, one of those events is a celebration

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Speaker 1: the Bengals losing every year in January. So I figured,

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Speaker 1: since you love the training training camp so much, or

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Speaker 1: segment later in the show. Today war preseason. It's exciting.

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Speaker 1: Today's show is it's a good show today, Jay Cutler,

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Speaker 1: you know he's in Miami. Now that man's got a mind?

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Speaker 1: What is it like an elephant? Is that what they

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Speaker 1: say like the elephan remembers everything? That a true thing?

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Speaker 1: How do we even know that elephants are very smart? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: do spreadsheets. Hard knocks is back. Also, we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about that you can check out the Hard Knocks recaps

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Speaker 1: written by the old Zeuser, And we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about the season premiere the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. A nice

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Speaker 1: two time Pro Bowl running back DeVonta Freeman a new

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Speaker 1: five year contract extension that makes him the NFL's highest

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Speaker 1: like to make a request. Yes, don't correct Mark anymore?

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Speaker 1: they gave first time first team what does that mean? Though?

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Speaker 1: Cody Kessler is now third team exclusively and Kaiser's with

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Speaker 1: the second team, So if nothing else is it, it

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Speaker 1: feels like it's down to Brack and Kaiser. Just Tody

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Speaker 1: Just an afterthought. It appears he's right because Oswaller didn't

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Speaker 1: replace Kaiser, replaced Kessler, who came in as the guy

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Speaker 1: with the most experience, which is very little if you

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Speaker 1: think about the NFL in general, very little, but he

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Speaker 1: had the most with Hugh and he's been essentially shoved

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Speaker 1: out of the picture. I think if Brock Ostwaller starts

435
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Speaker 1: Week one, you've got to readjust your pain rankings and

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Speaker 1: put Browns fans at number one again. Well, it's not

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Speaker 1: be so sure about your ma's getting the number one

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Speaker 1: pick necessarily. Well, it's just funny because I remember when

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Speaker 1: that trade went down. I was talking to this Rold

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Speaker 1: like Browns don't don't do it, don't have us in

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Speaker 1: August talking about Brock Oswaller perhaps starting the season, and

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Speaker 1: these guys, man, they just don't you know, And I

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Speaker 1: have I have nothing to say. I'm a jetsman, I

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Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback. Yeah, but how are we thinking

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Speaker 1: that this guy is the guy should be starting week

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Speaker 1: one after everything we've seen. They they literally were on

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Speaker 1: the phone after they acquired him trying to get another

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Speaker 1: team to take on half his salary in the trade.

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Speaker 1: No other team would do that. Well in theory, the

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Speaker 1: other idea not saying they're this smart, but maybe there

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Speaker 1: what they're doing, they can over the next two weeks

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Speaker 1: to showcase them in case someone has a terrible injury

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Speaker 1: and needs to go last resort naked trade for him.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who that would be. Well, we'll get

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Speaker 1: to that a little bit later when we talk about

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Speaker 1: uh some of our preseason crystal ball uh predictions West Buckle,

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Speaker 1: Chimp Strap for that, crystal ball is going out of

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Speaker 1: style like quicksand I mean you just don't hear Yeah,

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Speaker 1: who's using them? It's like not Wizard of Oz. Have

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Speaker 1: we seen a crystal ball that's fair? We need something new,

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Speaker 1: even like a modern day psychic along the streets in

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Speaker 1: l A that all over the place, there's no you

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Speaker 1: don't walk in there's a crystal ball in there. I

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Speaker 1: didn't want to. I didn't watch any of that stuff

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Speaker 1: like Lord of the Rings or um, Harry Prince and

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Speaker 1: the Pauper Popper. What's what's the other commentary? Right? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what's the Harry Potter? Yes? Is there some type of

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Speaker 1: update that we can use as a ref instead of

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Speaker 1: crystal ball that's going on in those fantasy series? Not

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Speaker 1: a Harry Potter fan, don't you gonna have to ask

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Speaker 1: a different room. Enough. That's what's happened in the news. Alright,

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Speaker 1: time for the Training Camp Spotlight presented by New Era.

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Speaker 1: And we thought, what with preseason games opening up for

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Speaker 1: all the teams this week, that we check in on

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Speaker 1: two games, uh, that are gonna air on NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: There are six games on NFL Network NFL Network air waves. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this from Thursday through Sunday. So that's pretty cool if

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Speaker 1: you're into that sort of thing. We're gonna study two

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Speaker 1: of them, or not so much study, but say one

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Speaker 1: thing to watch in each game? Uh, And we will

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Speaker 1: start with the Bears and Broncos. Um, Greg, do you

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Speaker 1: want to get us going with that? What is one

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Speaker 1: thing to watch in Bears Broncos? The best? The best

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Speaker 1: thing to watch in the preseason is young quarterbacks, especially

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Speaker 1: once you haven't seen before. So I want to see

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Speaker 1: Mitchell Trobisky play football like I've I've never seen that

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Speaker 1: at a pro level. There actually been some positive reports

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Speaker 1: about how his arm looks and doing some good things

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Speaker 1: in practice, so that that's what I'm looking for in

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Speaker 1: this game. Just see what's the troubisky Like what happened? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would like I'm interested in that. And he's got

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Speaker 1: to play a lot because he's the clear, he's the

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Speaker 1: clear backup. He'll probably play it two full quarters. It's

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Speaker 1: actually one of the rare good preseason games in theory

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Speaker 1: because the Broncos are gonna have a quarterback of note

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Speaker 1: playing deep into the game with Simeon and Lynch, You're

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Speaker 1: gonna get your laughing. I mean, West is laughing at us.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because Mark's right, all preseason games are good

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Speaker 1: in theory, well at best in theory. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter to Broncos competition. Though, it matters to the

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Speaker 1: Broncos competition, West right, if one significantly outplays the other

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Speaker 1: over the next two weeks, that person that quarterback is

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Speaker 1: gonna be starting. Sure, it matters until next week's game

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Speaker 1: renders this week's meaningless, and then regular season renders the

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Speaker 1: entire preseason meaningless. Well, the regular season is also meaningless

506
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Speaker 1: in the big picture as well, if you want to

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Speaker 1: get well. The Super Bowl renders the entire operation meaningless

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Speaker 1: in life meaningless because it ends this podcast meaningless in

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Speaker 1: the big picture. Elephants meaningless always were super overrated. It

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Speaker 1: was a good show done with elements. How about Chiefs

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Speaker 1: forty Niners, Now, Mark, I'll throw it to you on

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Speaker 1: this one, and West you could jump in if you

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Speaker 1: have something that that that's getting you. Chiefs forty is

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Speaker 1: one thing to watch in that game. Well, can I

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Speaker 1: give you two things real fast? Sure? I want to

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Speaker 1: see if there's any any visual effect of like Kyle

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Speaker 1: Shanahan running this offense for the forty Niners after watching

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Speaker 1: the disaster it was last season, And I really want

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Speaker 1: to see Patrick Mahomes. I mean, it's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: for it be for what a quarter and a half.

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Speaker 1: I want to just I'm excited to see. The one

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Speaker 1: thing about the first week of the preseason, it's your

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Speaker 1: chance to see all these guys we've been writing about

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Speaker 1: with very little knowledge of who they are. Yeah, West

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Speaker 1: has set you've said in the past you can you

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Speaker 1: can watch some running backs to kind of see how

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Speaker 1: they're looking. And there's two in this game. Kareem Hunt,

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Speaker 1: who might wind up being the starter as a rookie,

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Speaker 1: and a guy Matt b Brita. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: if that's pronounced correct, but he has been getting a

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Speaker 1: lot of write ups in San Francisco potentially as the

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Speaker 1: primary backup and could be in the mix. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just want to see who this guy is. I like.

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Speaker 1: I do like the idea of Kyle Shannon opening up

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Speaker 1: his bag of tricks in the preseason, opening teams up

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Speaker 1: and down the field. If you remember when r G

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Speaker 1: three was a rookie, Kyle Janhan slow played the entire

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Speaker 1: NFL in the preseason and unleashed him in Week one.

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Speaker 1: But you ruined my brushback. I was gonna give you.

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Speaker 1: Quarterbacks aren't the thing to watch in the preseason there.

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Speaker 1: It's so misleading because of the vanilla defenses. It's running

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Speaker 1: backs that I want to see. Like you mentioned Kareem

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Speaker 1: Hunt and the hyper motivated Carlo's hide a lot of

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Speaker 1: hide heat in this room, but I like it. The

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Speaker 1: mean a lot of hats here. People thought we couldn't

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Speaker 1: get more hats on the set than last week. We're

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Speaker 1: not allowed to talk about the hats. They were wrong.

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Speaker 1: Just look at the hats, the first roll of the hats.

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Speaker 1: No one talking about the hats. Okay, what do we

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Speaker 1: want to talk about next? So much to get to

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Speaker 1: you want to do a little preseason crystal ball? You

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Speaker 1: want to do it? I think we should. I mean

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Speaker 1: we've told the people we don't have to do it.

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Speaker 1: We could bail on it. No, I like it follow through.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if we're gonna have a crystal Ball, let's

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Speaker 1: do it. Bring it back. We're bringing back to crystal ball.

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Speaker 1: How about that as a That's gonna be tougher than

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Speaker 1: bringing back your old Dean scream? What happened to the

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Speaker 1: Dean scream? So let's look that up. Let's take that

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Speaker 1: sucker up. I'm sure we'll come up at some point,

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Speaker 1: uh West. Since you are the preseason uh star around here,

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Speaker 1: why don't you get us going and take a look

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Speaker 1: in a gander into your big old crystal ball. Patriots

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Speaker 1: lose the game this month for the last time all season.

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Speaker 1: That's why crystal Ball. You kind of just cheated. You

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Speaker 1: just did a crystal Ball for the whole season. I

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Speaker 1: see what you're doing whole game this month. And then

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Speaker 1: people will say, oh, yeah, the Patriots aren't unstoppable. People

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Speaker 1: will read too much into it, and then they'll just

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Speaker 1: fly through the schedule they always do. Tom Brady, I

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Speaker 1: think it's better now than he was in two thousand seven.

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Speaker 1: People underrate their coaching stability to keep guys like Josh

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Speaker 1: McDaniels and met Patricia in house. They just keep getting better.

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Speaker 1: They're not just more talented, they're deeper, they're more versatile,

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Speaker 1: they're more well balanced. They can run a lot of

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Speaker 1: different alignments and and uh, personnel hard to go undefeated.

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Speaker 1: Ron's been kidding aside. Do you actually believe patriotsco in

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Speaker 1: nineteen you think it's happening? Wow? I mean, look just

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Speaker 1: look at rosters. Who's who's even close to them? Offensively?

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Speaker 1: I think it's by far the best offensive roster they've

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Speaker 1: had with coaching everything considered by far better than two

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Speaker 1: thousand seven, which many people going into the season. I think,

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Speaker 1: just overall, it's it's better. It's significantly better. Defensively, you

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Speaker 1: know the front seven, it's a good front seven. It's fine.

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Speaker 1: They led the NFL in total points on defense last

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Speaker 1: year and then they went out and got steff On

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Speaker 1: Gilmour and David Harris. I mean, great, great secondary defensively

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Speaker 1: in the front seven. Have to not lose a game.

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Speaker 1: I predict a huge letdown season for the Patriots sixteen

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Speaker 1: and three. Where does that loss? Where does that third

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Speaker 1: loss come? Somewhere before the playoffs season finale? It better

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Speaker 1: not be the season finale. It's against the Jet. Stason

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Speaker 1: finale against the Jets, when the Patriots are resting all

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Speaker 1: their players. I still think he went big with the

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Speaker 1: crystal ball. I think West might be falling for the

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Speaker 1: Pats a little bit in a real way, maybe carrying

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Speaker 1: that water a little bit more than water, a little

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Speaker 1: bit more like maybe it's time to to find a

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Speaker 1: new team, fall in love again. No, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: just like good football. And there they eat deserve your respect.

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Speaker 1: I think a couple of water boys buried underneath the

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Speaker 1: mass Turnpike. We know that all right. By the end

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Speaker 1: of the preseason, one question everyone will be asking, how

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Speaker 1: will Colin Kaepernick fairs Jacksonville's starting quarterback on the heels

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Speaker 1: of the team releasing a totally defunct Blake Portals. So

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Speaker 1: we talked in the pre production meeting about not going

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Speaker 1: too deep into the wilderness. You're right at the edge.

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Speaker 1: That's where I thought you'd want me to be. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like you. You know you're going to correct another

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Speaker 1: statistic I put. I didn't even read the rest of it.

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Speaker 1: I put no stats in there. Nothing that is just

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Speaker 1: crazy enough to happen. I don't know about cut cutting Boards.

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Speaker 1: Initially I thought trade, but who can you trade him to?

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Speaker 1: And for what? Get like a late round pick. I

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Speaker 1: don't know for Blake Bortles. But if Blake Board, let's

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Speaker 1: let's enter a world that marks put us in which

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Speaker 1: I don't think is that crazy, which is a world

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Speaker 1: in the wilderness where Blake Bortles has an absolutely awful August.

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Speaker 1: Do do they start thinking about other options? I think

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Speaker 1: it's fair to to wonder they have to. I saw

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Speaker 1: a sentiment today that Blake Bortles is single handedly holding

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars back from reaching their potential. He's not. Their

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Speaker 1: front office shares that blame as well for not coming

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Speaker 1: up with a backup plan at quarterback when you had

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Speaker 1: all off season to do it. And we sat here

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Speaker 1: in October and November of last season saying, Blake Bortles

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Speaker 1: is holding this entire franchise hostage. You can't keep running

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Speaker 1: him out there every week as a competitive liability. They

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Speaker 1: didn't come up with a plan B in the off season.

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Speaker 1: Play was right in front of them. I don't. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna say now, Jay Cutler is this guy that's

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Speaker 1: a great quarterback and is gonna lead teams of the

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Speaker 1: Promised Land. But he got signed a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 1: He got signed in August, and you sat on Chad

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Speaker 1: Henny as your backup. Whether you're a fan of Cutler

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Speaker 1: or not, he would at least given you a chance.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they have a chance. If if Portal

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Speaker 1: flames that, Bortles flames out, well Cutler never would have

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Speaker 1: gone to the jail. And I think the Cutler gaze

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Speaker 1: thing is the only reason Cutler's even on a on

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Speaker 1: a team right now. But Colin Kaepernick, Nathaniel Hackett and Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: I didn't don't think he did a great thing, but

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Speaker 1: he's worked with a lot of different types of quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: and I think that him and Maron would be potentially

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Speaker 1: open to the possibility of using capital. I'll just say

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Speaker 1: again because rap Sheet corrected me on Twitter the other day.

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Speaker 1: J Cutler was looking hard for a job. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: like he was looking for the perfect opportunity. Before he

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Speaker 1: signed that Fox deal. He was actively his agent was

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Speaker 1: making phone calls post Fox. Though before Fox, he was

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Speaker 1: looking for a job and he could not get a nibble.

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Speaker 1: And then he turned the page. And then once the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins came, then it was like, should I do it?

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Speaker 1: I need Kristen to help me with this, But this

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Speaker 1: was not a situation where he was like, I need

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Speaker 1: the perfect The Jets did not return his phone call.

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Speaker 1: The Jets well, because we go with the Jets are

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Speaker 1: up to There's sub logic though, in a in a

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Speaker 1: really run based offense, what they want to do there

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Speaker 1: that Kaepernick could fit. I think the owner there in

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville would be someone who would be more open to

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Speaker 1: it than other owners to Alright, crystal ball time take

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Speaker 1: it out. Maybe we should get a crystal ball effect

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Speaker 1: the next time we do it. Three weeks of the preseason,

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Speaker 1: or an actual crystal ball in the student that would

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Speaker 1: be nice. Three weeks of the preseason. Games have evaporated.

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Speaker 1: The Texans need a wide receiver, it's becoming more clear,

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Speaker 1: and the Philadelphia Eagles trade Jordan Matthews to the Houston

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Speaker 1: Texans for a mid round pick, let's say fourth round pick.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Matthews goes in there be the starting wide receiver

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Speaker 1: across from DeAndre Hopkins. Gives them a chance, gives them something.

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Speaker 1: So all this Nelson hype carries over. He's having a

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Speaker 1: nice preseason and they make the move. Jordan wrote about

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Speaker 1: that and what we learned yesterday did a great job

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Speaker 1: on that what we left. Great job, Thank you, buddy.

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Speaker 1: I think that the Eagle don't really need Jordan Matthews.

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Speaker 1: I think Jordan Matthews has done a lot volume wise

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Speaker 1: in terms of but he doesn't make much happen after

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Speaker 1: the catch. They've got four receivers. He's in the final

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Speaker 1: year of his contract, and I think Houston's under the radar,

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Speaker 1: a kind of a team that there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: pressure on that team. I feel like to win now,

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Speaker 1: even though they've got a young, a weird quarterback situation

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Speaker 1: that they have really high expectations for themselves. They're all

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Speaker 1: they're like the Cardinals last year, are saying like, okay,

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Speaker 1: we made it into the playoffs, like this is our

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Speaker 1: year that we're going over the top. And I'm thinking, like, really,

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Speaker 1: the Texans are that team. I don't I don't see

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Speaker 1: that nothing goods fair, that's fair, that would be a

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Speaker 1: nice fit. Is Tory Smith any good by the way,

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Speaker 1: because shouldn't they maybe just wait to see if that

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Speaker 1: guy I can still play before they start trading in

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Speaker 1: white pieces. It's a fair point. He's had one of

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Speaker 1: the worst catch percentages in the league since he the

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00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: last couple of years in San Francisco. But he's apparently

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Speaker 1: played pretty well in training camp. All right, uh my turn,

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Speaker 1: all right, Andrew Luck not gonna play in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: That's I'm not hanging any onions there. I think that's

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Speaker 1: a very strong positive possibility. But I believe, uh, if

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Speaker 1: that leads to no preseason and they do put him

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Speaker 1: on the pup, an intriguing option will be added to

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Speaker 1: the court of the Colts quarterback room in uh the

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Speaker 1: near future, because if you think about it, let's say

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Speaker 1: I am that I'm you know, so all guesswork. But

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Speaker 1: if he does, if this continues to go slowly, they

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Speaker 1: throw him on the pup, which means six weeks out

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Speaker 1: at the least. That means they still probably think they

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Speaker 1: have a chance to make a move in the division

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Speaker 1: once he returns. Hoping he returns after six weeks. They

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Speaker 1: need to get to Luck in decent shape. They can't

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Speaker 1: just lean on Scott Tolzine. I think they go and

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Speaker 1: and get somebody, uh, any of these names, maybe a

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Speaker 1: brock Osweiler, for instance, in a trade, maybe r G three.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I have to check out

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Speaker 1: on that. Uh, somebody out there, uh to add to

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Speaker 1: that quarterback room if he ends up going on pup.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna go with the cloak dagger

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Speaker 1: routine and just withhold all intriguing names from right, and

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like, you need to bring that

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Speaker 1: crystal ball back into the shop a little more than ready.

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Speaker 1: Here we go, Kaepernick, Kaepernick, I'll throw him in there.

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Speaker 1: How about a little clipboard Jesus, I think you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to trade for an intriguing name because you're not

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Speaker 1: out there but G J. Kinney, J Kenney. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: somebody that somebody gets cut some type of trade. I

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Speaker 1: my my crystal ball prediction is there's somebody else in

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Speaker 1: that room. When you when you think of that defense,

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Speaker 1: you don't think of a lot of huge difference makers

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Speaker 1: yet on the Colts defense, and the reports out of

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Speaker 1: Colts practice are that the offense essentially can't do anything

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Speaker 1: that Scott Tolzine uh and the other quarterbacks there aren't

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Speaker 1: getting anything done to the point where it's almost hard

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Speaker 1: to evaluate what else is going on. Remember the Steelers

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Speaker 1: game last year when Tolzine started. That was a brutal

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Speaker 1: football game. Sean Hill started week one. Uh, he's another

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00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: guy out there started week one. It would be better.

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Speaker 1: I'm intriggued by Sean Hill more than i am Scott Tolzine.

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Speaker 1: I'll do a little Seth lobato. How about that set

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00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: a procedure, Seth lobato. He's out there on the free

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00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: agent market. Let's set the ball up. He's not a quarterback,

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00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: I'll say, sort of a game changing tight ends movable

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00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: chest piece. It's about total movable chest piece. All right,

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Speaker 1: there we go. That's our preseason crystal ball. Finally, and

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Speaker 1: then let me just add right now, first spoiler alert

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Speaker 1: to the UK listeners. We're about to talk about Hard

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Speaker 1: Knocks set again. It's really not a an excuse for

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00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: you to turn this show off right now because on

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Speaker 1: NFL dot Com streaming now through next week next Tuesday,

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00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: you can watch the premier of Hard Knocks. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: great theme song. I would say I wrote this on

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Speaker 1: my Hard Knocks recap. If I could have one song

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Speaker 1: to soundtrack my entire life, just looping an eternity, it's

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Speaker 1: a Hard Knocks I feel like my life. It would

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Speaker 1: have purpose. I would be driven and I would succeed

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Speaker 1: if this song was keeping me a float. I like,

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Speaker 1: if it was not an uncut version of your life

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00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: and there's hours of you at a desk just typing

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Speaker 1: in this music is just playing. My mouth opens, and

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Speaker 1: then you think it works in the bedroom. What do

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Speaker 1: you what do you mean? I mean, I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: like it's playing all the time in your life, every

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Speaker 1: every situation. Greg, must you go there. I'd appreciate. I'm

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Speaker 1: saying what everyone thought. That's what you thought, weird dude

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Speaker 1: bro Um. Anyway, the season premiere of Hard Knocks, Uh

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and I thought my initial takeaway and

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Speaker 1: then I'll throw it to all you guys because I

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00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: know all you guys watched it as well. Uh was that.

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Speaker 1: I think they did a nice job in the fact

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Speaker 1: that they have a bigger um, more chess pieces to

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Speaker 1: use that again to work with. Then, say the Rams

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00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: season last year where by the fourth episode they were

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Speaker 1: sending the the guy that didn't believe in dinosaurs to

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Speaker 1: Disneyland and then to like a museum about dinosaurs, was like,

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Speaker 1: clearly they had kind of hit a wall in terms

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Speaker 1: of what direction to take the show this season. They

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00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: have so many things, so many directions to take the show,

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00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: so many interesting personalities, the fact that that it's a

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00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: team on the rise, it's a it's a really good

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00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: team for this type of treatment. Uh. So I'd like

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Speaker 1: the choice to really make episode one about the guy

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00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 1: that's the focal point of the franchise right now, Jamis Winston.

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Speaker 1: And it was really his show, and they they showed

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00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: his life, um growing up in in Alabama, and they

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00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: showed his relationship with Dark Cutter. In fact, I think

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00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: we have a clip here. Uh something I found interesting.

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Speaker 1: Uh this is all coaches asked a lot of their quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: But it's interesting this guy's twenty three years old, still

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00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: Winston so young, and his coach is asking him to

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00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: perform like some of the best quarterbacks in in the

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00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: history of the NFL, because that's the type of potential

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Speaker 1: this guy has. Let's listen it. As far as doing

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00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: too much, I just want to have a good understanding

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00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: how much is doing too much? Okay, that's a great question.

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Speaker 1: And here's what I would say on that is, we

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Speaker 1: have a good defense now, so maybe we got to

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Speaker 1: cut our risk a little bit your m O and

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00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: your career was. You've always been a risk taker. Even

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Speaker 1: if he got you in trouble already in a game,

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00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: either you've been good enough or your team has been

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Speaker 1: good enough to bail you out of it. And now

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Speaker 1: we have a good team. We have by far the

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Speaker 1: best team we've had since you've been in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And you are a guy that's able to win a game,

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00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: but you're also we don't we don't need you to

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00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: lose the game for us. You're the only guy that

819
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: can really lose a game for us because no one

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00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: else touches the ball enough. So there's a fine mind

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Speaker 1: there and you're a great competitor, but we got to

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Speaker 1: get some patients in there now. We need you to

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Speaker 1: be a great quarterback. You played different style quarterback than

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. You closer. You play your closer style to

825
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, both great quarterbacks. Both guys will be in

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame now it's time. Even though they

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00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 1: got years on you, You've got to play like that

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Speaker 1: because it's shoot, that's that's just the way this lead is.

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Speaker 1: They don't care if you're twenty three or thirty nine.

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Speaker 1: Uh to get the respect you want and to go

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Speaker 1: our team wants more than anything. Greg, I'll start with you.

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00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: I thought Winston came up very well. It came off

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00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: as an affable guy. Like the end of the episode

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Speaker 1: when they showed and some people say, oh, you guys

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Speaker 1: killed J J. Watt Ford doing the practice alone by himself,

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Speaker 1: But that felt way more manufactured than Winston getting up

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Speaker 1: at five am and being the first in the gym,

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00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: the first in the weight room, which is all the

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Speaker 1: stuff you hear about guys like Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady.

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00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: I thought Winston came up very well, and I would

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00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: feel very good if I was a Bucks fan watching

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00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: this episode. Absolutely, the advantage of this show is that

843
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 1: the super stars on their team are the best personalities,

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00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: are great personalities, not just Jamis Winston, but the Sean

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Speaker 1: Jackson and Gerald McCoy, who were both featured heavily. I mean,

846
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: I love getting to know Jamis Winston because he's such

847
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: an engaging personality. He has such a great story, and

848
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: the most telling part of that whole show for me

849
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: with Jamis Winston was him in the audience while all

850
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: of his UH teammates were singing because no one was

851
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: having more fun and going more wild than Jamis Winston.

852
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: He just seems like a guy that's like a great teammate,

853
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: that his teammates love, that there's no airs about him,

854
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: that he's kind of tight with everyone on the team.

855
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: What about the daily turned down service he passed up

856
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: at the Marriott so he could collect more points hotel points.

857
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: I mean's just kind of dude. My wife was weighing

858
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: on that. She I was writing the recap and I

859
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: got this text how she was just all fired up

860
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: about that. Then she said, uh, full disclosure. She said

861
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: that he was her favorite player and that you did

862
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: a cursory Google search, And then I thought a little

863
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: differently about the situation, but um, yeah, go ahead, Mark.

864
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: I mean, for me, it felt like, and I appreciate

865
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: what you said about them holding back on someone some

866
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: of the other star characters and central figures, because I

867
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: didn't learn much about anyone other than Jamis Winston. To me,

868
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: it felt like an excellent documentary on Jamis Winston interrupted

869
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, because I wanted to know

870
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: more about his life and everything, and when he went

871
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: home and he visited with family and stuff. That to

872
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: me was very rewarding documentary footage. I'm waiting to learn

873
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: more about the rest of this team. I did come

874
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 1: away with a good impression of Dirk Hutter. I think

875
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: that he's not flashy, but he was. He had maintained

876
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: good control over the team, and he seems to be

877
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: the right coach for them right now. But I need

878
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: to see more in the next episode. I thought from

879
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: a pure football perspective, they did a great job of

880
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: outlining the macro viewpoint of Jamis Winston, which is, when

881
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: you're an athlete, throughout all the stats, here's what matters,

882
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: the feeling in your teammates and your coach's head, in

883
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: their mind, when you're up to bat, when you're on

884
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 1: the pitcher's mound, when you're throwing the ball as a quarterback,

885
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: when you're catching the ball as a wide receiver, and

886
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: you can tell the Bucks know that Jamis Winston is

887
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback. Every that Gerald McCoy's segment where he's like,

888
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter about anyone else, All that matters is

889
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: number three. That's the macro view point, the micro view

890
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: point two thousand seventeen Dirk Cutter driving home the point

891
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: everybody knows you're a potential franchise quarterback. Everybody loves your potential,

892
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: but right now you're a turnover prone quarterback who's inconsistent.

893
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: And if we're gonna our roster strong enough right now,

894
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: we can get to the playoffs. But you gotta get

895
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: reeled in a little bit. And if the best moments

896
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: was when Cutter and went at Winston at the end

897
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: of the episode after a terrible practice and he and

898
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: he went atam and you in in the everyone's gathering around,

899
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 1: and Winston had the thousand yards stare on his face.

900
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: He had no answers for like, why did you do that?

901
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 1: He basically had no answers, And then you remembered, oh, yeah,

902
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: he's a twenty three year old third year quarterback who

903
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: is prone to mistakes. That that they're Cutter interview that

904
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: we listened to the what The one other thing that

905
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: I took from it is this Bucks team knows that

906
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be good, and I always think that's

907
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: I think that's dangerous, like him saying him saying that

908
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: line to Jameis Winston, this is you have a good defense.

909
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: This is by far the best team you've had. Like,

910
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: I immediately, as a Patriots fan, think Bill Beltchick never

911
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: would say that. He would never think that because they

912
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: don't have a team yet, they don't have a defense yet,

913
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: they don't know what they are and I always, I

914
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: always think, and they have all this attention on that,

915
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: and it's tough to go. It's a lot easier to

916
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: go from whatever they were in two thousand fifteen to

917
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: nine and seven than it is to take that next step.

918
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 1: And part of it is the expectations. And I think

919
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: even as a coach, him thinking that way it was

920
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: telling to me. I mean, they certainly appear to be

921
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: buying into their own hype, but that that can work

922
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: both ways. We saw six years ago on the show

923
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan telling these guys that were going to win

924
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: a super Bowl and they almost got there. You could

925
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: win with that type of a dude. It's definitely a

926
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: different one than Bill Belichick would have. There's no doubt

927
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah. I think if you haven't won in

928
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: ten years, you have to approach it a little bit

929
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: differently than Bill Belichick, where the ex spectation is every

930
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: year you're gonna be a Super Bowl contender. I guess

931
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: I just mean they they it's I think it's a

932
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: smart thing to feel like you're starting from scratch because

933
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: they don't know what what they have. Another thing, you know,

934
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 1: in terms of personalities, was the awe that the teammates

935
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: had in DeShawn Jackson. I thought was telling like it's

936
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: pretty rare in the NFL that other players are just like,

937
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: oh my god. But there were just some comments like

938
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick and Chris Baker just being like, I can't

939
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: believe like watching this guy, he's just different than on

940
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: any other NFL player, And I was thinking how unique

941
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: he is is that he is known as the fastest

942
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: guy in the field. He looks like a jitterbug, and

943
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: he's thirty one years old. He's not supposed to like

944
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: at this age, these type of guys, these small frame

945
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: guys are not supposed to be still moving like their

946
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: twenty four. He's kind of an interesting guy. And then

947
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: they did they did dug in a little bit on

948
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: Mike Evans as well, and and it really it really

949
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: reinforced to me how great a signing that was, how

950
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: well those guys complement each other, and just how much

951
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: potential is there. Does that do those two feel a

952
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: little bit like we're really trying to be best friends.

953
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: It's not really working organically, but we're gonna keep trying

954
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: really hard. I I guess one thing is when I'm

955
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: not a rose colored glasses person when it comes to

956
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks, like I, I have seen some episodes that

957
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: are that that I learned so much about people on

958
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: the team and so much about the way the team

959
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: functions that I love, Like I loved watching Jeremy McNichols

960
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: utterly lost in the game plan at practice not knowing where.

961
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: That to me was informative, like that's what it's like

962
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: to be a rookie running back. There was a lot

963
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: of stuff going on though in some of these Hard

964
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: Knocks episodes that feel a little paint by numbers. If

965
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: they're not taking you deeper than you expected to go,

966
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: if they go through the motions, it can turn into

967
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: that kind of a show like Riley Bullock I believe

968
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 1: is your Bullock was his name, the third string middle lineback.

969
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: I thought that was a really interesting point that Cutter

970
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: made it a team meeting, that you don't need to

971
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: be a star to be a leader. That hey, here's

972
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: this undrafted rookie middle linebacker and you kind of saw

973
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 1: it through the through the show kind of being a leader.

974
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: I was following, you know, like that that's one thing

975
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: I like about Hard Knocks. That not to mention he

976
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: had a set of pipes, but I mean, I love

977
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: of that singing. That's the whole thing and saying it's

978
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: always fun. There are there are there are familiar beats

979
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: at this point, but like I love it. I love

980
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 1: it as much as I love opening day of the season.

981
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: Everything is kind of familiar, but it's I love every time.

982
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: There's been five hundred singing competitions on this series, but

983
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: it's always fun to see how the guys react, like

984
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: this year, um, because I remember growing up watching it

985
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: after SNL as a kid, amateur night at the Apollo.

986
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: There was the guy, the executioner who would come out,

987
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 1: Yeah we get booed off the stage. Doug Martin comes

988
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: out and he does a perfect rendition or impression of

989
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: the executioner, even with like the Michael Jackson moonwalk and

990
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: the point back to his seat. I mean that that

991
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: to me is so fun. Even if it's familiar, it's

992
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: still a lot of fun. And it's just the show

993
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: has done so well. I mean the the way that

994
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: the episode ended, Uh, they perfectly. They pivoted out of

995
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: that terrible practice into uh the pre dawn wake up

996
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: time with the motivational speaker that James Winston wakes up

997
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: to every day, which was kind of interesting, and and

998
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: him going back to work, and it's just these guys

999
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: that do the show. Um, they're the best in the

1000
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: business at it. It actually ended even after that with

1001
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 1: a lot of Game of Thrones talk, and it really

1002
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: drove home the point two thousand seventeen, in America, pop

1003
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,919
Speaker 1: culture is dominated by the television show. Yeah, for sure,

1004
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: it passed the wife test, so like Your Your Wife

1005
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: was very Emmica always watches the first episode with me

1006
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: or so and then often just tales off, but that

1007
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: one she actually stayed watched through the whole thing, and

1008
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: she was in because I think probably because of just

1009
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 1: the personalities, because Jamis was and she's like, all right,

1010
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: I'm in, I'm gonna watch her. This is your wife

1011
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 1: from Japan? Why Greg is very big in Japan. And

1012
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: then in the preview for episode two, it's almost catered

1013
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: for the round the NFL podcast. Uh, not only did

1014
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: they tease digging into the kicker battle between Aguayo and

1015
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: and Folk. Let's go home and visit the Grimes family.

1016
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: Miko Grimes gets onto the boom mic and starts talking

1017
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 1: about her life as the wife of Brent Crimes and Greg,

1018
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: I know you're a little bit interesting to be interesting

1019
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: to see whether you come up. You think I'm gonna

1020
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: come up. They're just gonna be talking about me. I

1021
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: don't know. Well, they're also so many, so many I

1022
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: don't want to say force, but so many cutaways to

1023
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: NFL network footage that there's a chance we could potentially

1024
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: see Greg at some point on the show. You know,

1025
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: Greg was thinking that when well, suddenly everyone who watched

1026
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 1: that show is like, I must come up with bucks

1027
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: topics immediately to get on this show somehow. Well, one

1028
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: of the things we've learned from Hard Knocks over the

1029
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: years is is how much the coaching staff does pay

1030
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 1: attention to. They read Rhoda World, they read NFL dot Com.

1031
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: They sat there and watched Jamis Winston's appearance on Good

1032
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: Morning Football. All the coaches sitting in dirt cutters off it.

1033
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: So if you want to watch the episode again, NFL

1034
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: dot Com slash Hard Knocks it will be on the

1035
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: website through Tuesday. After that, you've either got to uh

1036
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: subscribe to HBO or jack somebody's HBO go password. It's

1037
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: one of those situations you gotta figure it out. What

1038
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: do you want from me? Well, HBO now doesn't telecast

1039
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: until the next morning, so it's it's it's this beautiful

1040
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: August ritual where before coming to work, I wake up

1041
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: before in the morning to watch this, which may be

1042
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: coloring my opinion of the show in the morning. Well

1043
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: it's that or shove to work. It's HBO a day

1044
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: after everyone else. I mean, you're just you're just putting

1045
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 1: on the hard hat, like like yeah, I'm not saying

1046
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: it's a tough task and I'm just saying there are

1047
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: things like you know, I'm just saying it may color

1048
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: my opinion of the show. Someone alright, Mark, Okay, sorry,

1049
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: I it is the greatest show ever created on cable television.

1050
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: Um all right, there you go. Uh So we will

1051
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: be back on Friday. Uh within, I have a huge

1052
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: announcement for the listeners on Friday. I'm just gonna tease it,

1053
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: total tease, double t any hints. It is something the

1054
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: audience has been waiting for patiently. It's borderline rude that

1055
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: it's been. It's taken this long. You're coming back? Is

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Speaker 1: the shield Stotball manager that I am very it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be the body I think I'm coming. ESPN has the

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Speaker 1: body issue and that explains why it's not on the video.

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Speaker 1: It's not the video episode triple Scoop, triple source. No,

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Speaker 1: it's it's more like a you know, big horns, oh bugles,

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Speaker 1: bugles at the top of the castle, and all the

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Speaker 1: villagers down below. Here you here, you type, got you,

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Speaker 1: So make sure you stay tuned for that Friday. Clarion

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Speaker 1: call a clarion call bra All right, that's it, we'll

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Speaker 1: be back Friday. So thank you everyone for listening. This

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Speaker 1: dan As is signing off for a quiet storm. The Mailman,

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Speaker 1: the Boss, and the te Will Sully hiding everybody else

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Speaker 1: till Friday. M hm.