WEBVTT - Hour 1:  Bowl Games & Opt Outs

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<v Speaker 1>Two Pros and a cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,

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<v Speaker 1>LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas knocks with you in for

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<v Speaker 1>the Dan Patrick Show on this New Year's Eve edition,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are talking college football. It's officially bowl season.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to have another edition of Quinn's Wins, getting

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<v Speaker 1>you set for the college football playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk about one.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy recommitting to a blue blood program like we've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen before. John Calipari's got some thoughts on a major

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<v Speaker 1>Acas is going to stop by, and we got the

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<v Speaker 1>usual fun stuff. It's all yours coming up next here,

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<v Speaker 2>What up sticks?

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<v Speaker 5>Good morning man, Good morning? How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>We are good?

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<v Speaker 3>We are he's old professional today? All professional?

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<v Speaker 5>What are you talking? You know more?

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<v Speaker 3>You aren't. You aren't all professional. I'll tell you that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what that means. I don't pay attention

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<v Speaker 3>to social media.

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<v Speaker 5>Got leea, what's going on on my timeline yesterday? I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know, bro. I felt like there was a clashing

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<v Speaker 5>of cultures on my very timeline.

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<v Speaker 3>Cultures.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what are you talking about? Oh no, man?

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<v Speaker 5>It was like it was two pros versus up on game,

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<v Speaker 5>and I was in the middle of it.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's the thing about LeVar too, Since LaVar's got a

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<v Speaker 6>Saturday morning show, he will try to be like, hey, whosh,

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<v Speaker 6>why do you go out and reach out about something?

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<v Speaker 6>And an interesting thing about it was he couldn't have

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<v Speaker 6>listened to the clip because what he said clearly meant

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<v Speaker 6>he didn't like. If you listen to it, it literally

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<v Speaker 6>answered his question in it, which is one of the

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<v Speaker 6>reasons why other people started to jump ontom after that.

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<v Speaker 5>I get stressed out on stuff like that. I did

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<v Speaker 5>not I did not facilitate that. I did not instigate that.

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<v Speaker 5>In fact, I did not even look at it. I

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<v Speaker 5>just saw I put I saw you responded, I saw

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<v Speaker 5>he wrote something. I put popcorn on one, I put

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<v Speaker 5>eyes on one, and I said it was two pros

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<v Speaker 5>verses up on get u og and that was it.

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<v Speaker 5>I was out.

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<v Speaker 1>For the people that aren't familiar, we're referring to Lincoln

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<v Speaker 1>Riley basically putting the blame on Notre Dame for the

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<v Speaker 1>canceling of the Notre Dame USC rivalry. Brady responded yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>and then well we posted it on social media.

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<v Speaker 5>There was the social media clip Brady giving his opinions

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<v Speaker 5>on it, and people started weighing in on it, and

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<v Speaker 5>one of the persons was TJ. Houch Manzada, who I

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<v Speaker 5>work with on the weekends for Up on Game.

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<v Speaker 6>And here's the thing is, there's no disrespect that comes

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<v Speaker 6>with it. I think oftentimes on social media that's the

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<v Speaker 6>problem is we don't have the opportunity to talk to

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<v Speaker 6>people face to face. It all that, But when you

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<v Speaker 6>kind of go, I don't have a dog in the fight,

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<v Speaker 6>but you went away and it's like, well want to

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<v Speaker 6>set this one out then right, It's like the what's

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<v Speaker 6>the point of weig in.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't have a dog in the fight.

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<v Speaker 6>And my whole thing with with this entire scenario is

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<v Speaker 6>a look at how much.

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<v Speaker 3>Traction it's gotten. This isn't like my words or anything.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just saying, that's how much this robbery is meant

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<v Speaker 6>to two fan bases.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how much this robbery is.

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<v Speaker 6>Meant to college football really in sports and the history

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<v Speaker 6>behind it and everything else. So I've said what I've

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<v Speaker 6>said on it. I'm sure people are tired of hearing it,

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<v Speaker 6>but you don't have to look any further.

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<v Speaker 3>Than the last night's game.

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<v Speaker 6>If you're a C fan of just disappointment and who

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<v Speaker 6>your head coaches and his lack of being able to deliver.

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<v Speaker 6>But Gil given credit for playing the game. Their raim's

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<v Speaker 6>not playing a ball game. They opted out. So you

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<v Speaker 6>can only say so much as a Notre Dame fan

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<v Speaker 6>in that sense. But I would just generally say this

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<v Speaker 6>the reaction the traction. In a way, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 6>carried the bull season conversation up until these you know,

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<v Speaker 6>quarterfinal games now. But that's how much the robberies meant,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's how much it's meant to college football. So

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<v Speaker 6>it kind of goes to show you like, even people

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<v Speaker 6>who don't have a dog in the fight necessarily want

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<v Speaker 6>to weigh in on it because it's that big of

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<v Speaker 6>a subject.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, but it is bullseason, and I thought last night

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<v Speaker 1>was really the first.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we've had some bowl games. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>star of the show's been the Hawaii You guys both

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<v Speaker 2>know that. I mean that goes unsaid.

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<v Speaker 1>But last night we got Illinois, Brett Beelama getting it done.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a nine win Illinois team. They went on a

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<v Speaker 1>field goal. Then you get to the TCU USC game

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<v Speaker 1>which goes into overtime just you know, piss poor tackling

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<v Speaker 1>towards the end results in a touchdown. It just felt

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<v Speaker 1>like all of that was the prelude to the college

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<v Speaker 1>football Playoff, which kicks off later on tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Between Miami and Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 1>So it does feel like we're officially here. It is

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<v Speaker 1>bowl season, and we are off and running here getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready for this college football playoff.

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<v Speaker 2>There you guard it up, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>As just say, I don't know how you look at

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<v Speaker 6>bowl seas up to this point, but I think one

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<v Speaker 6>of the things that we always hear throughout the course

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<v Speaker 6>of the year is which conference is the top of

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<v Speaker 6>college football? And with as many teams that are always

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<v Speaker 6>ranked in the top twenty five and as many teams

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<v Speaker 6>that make the playoff, I think there's what five from

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<v Speaker 6>the SEC this year. It always feels like the SEC

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<v Speaker 6>does the better job of marketing their conference and putting

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<v Speaker 6>out this idea that they're better than the rest. And

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<v Speaker 6>at this current moment, the SEC's two and five in

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<v Speaker 6>bowl games the Big Ten six and one, their only

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<v Speaker 6>loss being Southern Cal last night.

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<v Speaker 3>Shocking.

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<v Speaker 6>But this is a trend, by the way that has

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<v Speaker 6>been the case over the last five years, with the

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<v Speaker 6>exception of one year the Big Ten has been better

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<v Speaker 6>than the SEC in the postseason.

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<v Speaker 3>This is an opinion, this is factual.

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<v Speaker 6>Go back to last year, the SEC was eight and

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<v Speaker 6>seven in bowl games and this includes the playoffs. Big

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<v Speaker 6>ten was eleven and six. Twenty twenty three SEC was

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<v Speaker 6>five and four, little tighter Big ten was six and four.

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<v Speaker 6>The only year the SEC in the last five years

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<v Speaker 6>has been better than the Big Ten was twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 6>two and they went seven and five in bowl games.

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<v Speaker 6>The year before that SEC was six and eight. Big

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<v Speaker 6>ten was six and four. I mean, so you can

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<v Speaker 6>clearly see by just the number of teams they are

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<v Speaker 6>getting in between the two conferences that the SEC is

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<v Speaker 6>viewed and looked at as the better conference. But there's

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<v Speaker 6>also the element of how they've scheduled through those years,

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<v Speaker 6>Like next year is gonna be the first year they

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<v Speaker 6>have nine conference again, it's only played eight usually, so

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<v Speaker 6>if you think about to get boils, if you have

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<v Speaker 6>to win six games, they've got four games, which we

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<v Speaker 6>all know how the SEC schedules in October November with

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<v Speaker 6>some of those FCS cupcakes and then a couple other

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<v Speaker 6>lighter games directional schools to get into their actual conference schedule.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, so if you really think about, like up

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<v Speaker 6>to this point and every single year, I feel like

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<v Speaker 6>we do this. We look at the difference conference in

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<v Speaker 6>college football, say well, what's the top conference?

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<v Speaker 3>Who's the best?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, we won't always get the chance to play each other.

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<v Speaker 6>You do win bowl season, and the Big Ten has

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<v Speaker 6>been better than the SEC.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think the SEC might win the national this year.

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<v Speaker 5>But with that being said, it's factual information. It has

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<v Speaker 5>been the Big Ten that's doing better in the bowl games.

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<v Speaker 5>Not my words, your words, and and listen, I love

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<v Speaker 5>the you know, the competition of it all, the almost

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<v Speaker 5>like the rivalry of it all that's being created between

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<v Speaker 5>the Big Ten and the SEC. But it plays out,

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<v Speaker 5>it plays out, and in these games that are are upcoming,

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<v Speaker 5>and yeah, I'm I'm super excited to be able to

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<v Speaker 5>watch them, uh in the friendly confines of my crib.

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<v Speaker 5>I got all my kids here like for the first

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<v Speaker 5>time and like I don't know, like forever, like two

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<v Speaker 5>years or so. So yeah, I'm excited to see the games. Man,

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<v Speaker 5>I'll probably watch them with a with a other host

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<v Speaker 5>of cool people that that come through to bring the

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<v Speaker 5>new year in. But yeah, man, I think, uh, I

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<v Speaker 5>think when you you look at it, where where we

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<v Speaker 5>are right now, this is as exciting a moment in

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<v Speaker 5>college football as as it. I mean to me. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know that this is factual. This is obviously opinion,

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<v Speaker 5>but I think the build up is because it seems

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<v Speaker 5>like it took forever for us to get here, like

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<v Speaker 5>get the game last night, it was like, yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 5>just watched the game so far outside of the first

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<v Speaker 5>round of the playoffs, and they, you know, outside of

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<v Speaker 5>like what maybe one game, they were kind of as expected,

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<v Speaker 5>went to kind of the way that that you would

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<v Speaker 5>have hoped it did it, but you knew it would,

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<v Speaker 5>and so you know, now now we get down to business. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>we get down to the nitty gritty. And I feel

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<v Speaker 5>like with what Nils created because I'm not just looking

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<v Speaker 5>at these teams anymore as Okay, you're coming in, you're

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<v Speaker 5>playing the game. I'm looking at how strong is your dollar?

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<v Speaker 5>This is like stock market game too. This isn't just okay,

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<v Speaker 5>how well did you recruit and how well are you coaching?

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<v Speaker 5>This is how far is your dollar stretching? And that's

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<v Speaker 5>interesting because that's a new wrinkle on on how I'm

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<v Speaker 5>watching college football. So you're looking at the big spenders,

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<v Speaker 5>like what I mean, are they going on with the big

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<v Speaker 5>spenders won last year? Right? Big bank take little Bank?

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<v Speaker 5>They made a song about you know, well.

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<v Speaker 6>I think to that point, like Texas Tech is the

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<v Speaker 6>one that's rumored to be the biggest spender this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Cody Campbell.

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<v Speaker 6>They're billionaire who's kind of come to the rescue of

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<v Speaker 6>Texas Tech Sports, and he's been very outspoken about where

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<v Speaker 6>where the state of the game is at and has

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<v Speaker 6>talked about the things he would do to change it

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<v Speaker 6>to make it better to a more professionalized model. But

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<v Speaker 6>that's neither here nor there. The point is he's put

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<v Speaker 6>in so much money that I feel like when you

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<v Speaker 6>look at, for example, Kenny Dillingham, who decided to stay

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<v Speaker 6>at Arizona State, what was one of the first things he

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<v Speaker 6>talked about, you know, some rich alum stroking a twenty

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<v Speaker 6>million dollar check because he's looking within this conference and saying,

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<v Speaker 6>we don't have a Cody Campbell at Arizona State, and

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<v Speaker 6>we can't compete if we don't have that. Give him

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<v Speaker 6>to certain rules were that all teams are playing under,

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<v Speaker 6>and that is you've got your rev share that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming from the TV distribution rights. But that's not enough.

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<v Speaker 6>As long as the NCAA allows for collectives to exist,

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<v Speaker 6>there's always going to be imbalances. And that's where you

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<v Speaker 6>kind of find yourself. Where a Texas Tech team, who

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<v Speaker 6>I think the high watermark for Joey Maguire their head

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<v Speaker 6>coach during his tenures was eight wins until Cody Campbell

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<v Speaker 6>invested in this roster completely revamped their defensive front. You're

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<v Speaker 6>going to see that tomorrow versus Oregon. Romelo Heights is

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<v Speaker 6>a stud off the end. David Bailey, he was the

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<v Speaker 6>most expensive edge rusher and the porter out of Stanford

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<v Speaker 6>and even the interior.

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<v Speaker 3>Players are really good.

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<v Speaker 6>But that investment has led to them now winning the

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<v Speaker 6>Big twelve and getting a buy and now, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>being the number four team in the country with a

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<v Speaker 6>chance to legitimately compete for a national championship. Ohio State

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<v Speaker 6>the year before it was that, the year before that,

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<v Speaker 6>it was Michigan. You know, those were all the teams

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<v Speaker 6>to be rumored to be having the most only the

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<v Speaker 6>biggest spend. And so to your point, LeVar like, we'll

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<v Speaker 6>see if it plays out where you know, they indeed

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<v Speaker 6>do end up winning it all. And we're gonna see

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<v Speaker 6>every single program set we want to win one.

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<v Speaker 5>Well you can buy you to put the money into it.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta put the money up.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Yeah, And I'm okay with it. If that's what

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<v Speaker 5>it is. That's what it is. So let's let's let's

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<v Speaker 5>have it, you know, let's let's let's see, let's see

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<v Speaker 5>where it goes. I mean, I'm interested because Ohio State,

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<v Speaker 5>like you said, everybody's gotten it, so let's see if

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<v Speaker 5>it happens this year, it's Texas Tech to take and see.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and I think if we're being honest with ourselves,

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<v Speaker 6>like going back to the conversations about the SEC and

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<v Speaker 6>Big Ten, like two of the SEC's wins are in

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<v Speaker 6>the playoff, actually the only two wins, one in which

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<v Speaker 6>they played it themselves Alabama versus Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 3>And the other one was a layup in Old miss

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<v Speaker 3>playing Tulane.

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<v Speaker 6>So when you look at even the success that the

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<v Speaker 6>SEC has had so far, it's really just been the

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<v Speaker 6>amount of teams that have gotten in the playoff, which

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<v Speaker 6>is a four of them to be talked about at

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<v Speaker 6>this point, well who could, But.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean who controls the which SEC teams.

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<v Speaker 6>Getting to the point oh ESPN and the whole playoff,

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<v Speaker 6>But the general point is the illusion that we even

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<v Speaker 6>need to have a debate between the SEC and Big ten.

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<v Speaker 6>Like if you really look at it, Ohio State, Oregon, Georgia, Bama,

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<v Speaker 6>Like those four teams are consistently in it. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know that you can say any other program is as

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<v Speaker 6>consistently in as those four. And it's kind of those

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<v Speaker 6>four really competing for at least in recent history since

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<v Speaker 6>the expansion playoff And what are the all for of

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<v Speaker 6>those schools have They have deep pockets, they have money

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<v Speaker 6>and and they're spending it on their rosters. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>you won't find one that's more expensive than Ohio State, Oregon.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, we talked about text tech this year that

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<v Speaker 6>hasn't been the past, And we'll see if it plays

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<v Speaker 6>out in the playoffs. But if I had my bet,

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<v Speaker 6>I bet one of those four teams wins the national

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<v Speaker 6>Championship from seeing them up close, you know, and you

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<v Speaker 6>know in person, all four of.

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<v Speaker 3>Those teams look different.

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<v Speaker 6>They've got the size that up, the speed, and they've

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<v Speaker 6>got you know, everything that they kind of need to

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<v Speaker 6>put together as far as their you know, staffs that

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<v Speaker 6>they've gotten in the support system.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, one of those four teams is probably gonna

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<v Speaker 3>win it all this year.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we get the rematch of you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three Classic between Miami and Ohio State,

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<v Speaker 1>which gets the College Football Playoff kicked off later on

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<v Speaker 1>tonight at seven thirty Eastern time, And I know that

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<v Speaker 1>people look at just sort of this whole landscape of

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<v Speaker 1>things and they're like, well, you know, these these are.

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<v Speaker 2>The bowl games and it's the playoff.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think Dan Lanning's point about the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Tech should have a home game, but they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a home game. I don't know how you if

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<v Speaker 1>this is a product of when you get sixteen teams in,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get you know, a bye week advantage into

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<v Speaker 1>a home game. But it just feels like this is

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<v Speaker 1>where we are. There's still some things they've got to

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<v Speaker 1>iron out with the whole College Football Playoff. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to look different like it did from last year to

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<v Speaker 1>this year and then this year probably the next year.

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<v Speaker 1>But it does feel like those teams yet again, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you get that bye week, but the fact that you're

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<v Speaker 1>playing on a neutral site, even you're an opposing coach

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<v Speaker 1>is defending the team who's the higher ranked team, and

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<v Speaker 1>says listen man, they should this game should be played

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<v Speaker 1>in loveck Like the fact that we're not there doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 6>As an Orange Bowl committee member, I am very I

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<v Speaker 6>feel very disrespected by those colleges from Deadlands. I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>taking that very well. So I hate to hear that,

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<v Speaker 6>but I understand the desire for it. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 6>obviously hosted a home playoff game versus James Madison, so

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<v Speaker 6>he knows.

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<v Speaker 3>What that's like.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's unfortunate for Texas Tech that, you know, they

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<v Speaker 6>don't get to experience that. Even though they get to

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<v Speaker 6>buy and they get the additional moneies that come with

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<v Speaker 6>that and then to go to the next round, they

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<v Speaker 6>don't get to feel what that feels like. And I

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<v Speaker 6>think if you look at where this sport is at,

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<v Speaker 6>where it's creeping slowly towards a professional model, we already

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<v Speaker 6>have a model that's in the NFL level that I

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<v Speaker 6>think everyone likes the playoff format and likes the fact.

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<v Speaker 3>That you do get home field advantage top seeded team.

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<v Speaker 3>You do get home field advantage if you win your division.

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<v Speaker 3>There's elements to all of that. The hard part is we've.

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<v Speaker 6>Got a committee that's going to be deciding that, so

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<v Speaker 6>there's always going to be some subjectivity to it.

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<v Speaker 3>There's going to be people who are.

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<v Speaker 6>Frustrated with the process of how they go about picking

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<v Speaker 6>those games in which teams make it, which teams don't.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just not quite to that format.

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<v Speaker 6>But I don't disagree that if you really take a

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<v Speaker 6>step back, look at any tournament format where there's sudden

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<v Speaker 6>death and you only play one game, it doesn't play

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<v Speaker 6>to the advantage of those teams that play the best

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<v Speaker 6>in the regular season.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, look at college basketball.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't get home core advantage in the tournament, and

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<v Speaker 6>outside of the opening round, that's all you get, and

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<v Speaker 6>then you're playing on these neutral site games. So I

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<v Speaker 6>understand the point he's making, but I also don't feel

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<v Speaker 6>like we're at a spot right now in college football

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<v Speaker 6>to be able to make the changes necessary to get

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<v Speaker 6>to the point where we've got sixteen teams playing in

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<v Speaker 6>it and we can start having more of those home

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<v Speaker 6>playoff games.

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<v Speaker 3>And we don't feel like teams don't deserve it buy.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't even know, do you guys feel like a

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<v Speaker 6>team deserves a buy based on what they've done in

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<v Speaker 6>the regular season so far.

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<v Speaker 5>I could see why they would structure it that way.

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<v Speaker 5>It just just because of the amount of teams. But

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<v Speaker 5>I think, you know, the playoffs are the playoffs. If

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<v Speaker 5>you make it into the playoffs, let's play. You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I get it, though, if you play well enough and

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<v Speaker 5>you're highly ranked, and you're rated based off of the numbers,

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<v Speaker 5>I would say I don't have a problem with a

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<v Speaker 5>bye week. I really don't, you know, but that could

0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.359
<v Speaker 5>work to your advantage, but it could also work to

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<v Speaker 5>your disadvantage. I mean, obviously, the clear and easy is

0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:40.239
<v Speaker 5>you get healthy, you have time to prepare. You can

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<v Speaker 5>prepare for both teams, even though you don't know which

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<v Speaker 5>one you're going to play. I think there is an

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<v Speaker 5>advantage to having a bye week, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>that for certain. I don't know that you have this

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<v Speaker 5>distinct advantage going into it, just because of the amount

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<v Speaker 5>of time you have off versus the time that the

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<v Speaker 5>other team had off.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think that there's in college football, there's your

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<v Speaker 1>condition to complain.

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<v Speaker 2>It just is what it is like.

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<v Speaker 1>No matter what, people are just gonna have a bitch

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<v Speaker 1>about something.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you really want to go through the.

0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:17.200
<v Speaker 1>List of playoff formats and other sports, I mean, look

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<v Speaker 1>look at the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about it a lot last year.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that the an NFC South team, whoever wins

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC South is going to host a playoff game

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<v Speaker 1>is absurd over a team, and it happened a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of times last year the NBA playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't need seven game series to open up every round.

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<v Speaker 1>Like every playoff format has flaws, but in college football,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody harps on what there is and as opposed to, dude,

0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:43.679
<v Speaker 1>we've got a playoff like this is the this is

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<v Speaker 1>the best you could possibly get. You're no longer having

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<v Speaker 1>it voted on, you're not having split champions, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>having just four teams in.

0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:51.639
<v Speaker 2>You've got teams in.

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<v Speaker 1>You gave opportunities to the little guys, didn't go well

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<v Speaker 1>for them. But now we're here, and now you've got

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<v Speaker 1>name brands, and I think I think that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>would rather watch and enjoy what we've got, knowing it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to change. Last year just like it did this

0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:09.080
<v Speaker 1>past year. It's flawed, but so is every other playoff

0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:11.160
<v Speaker 1>format in sports. You can find something wrong with anything

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<v Speaker 1>if you wanted to.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true.

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<v Speaker 6>I do think it's funny that after one year we

0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:18.080
<v Speaker 6>were like up in arms of how it god that

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<v Speaker 6>we could wait for like two or three years to

0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:22.159
<v Speaker 6>play out of this twelve team playoff format. So we

0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:25.520
<v Speaker 6>have to keep tweaking it constantly, which we'll see where

0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.159
<v Speaker 6>it ends up going. I mean, I think sixteen sounds

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<v Speaker 6>like a good number. I hope it gets to that number,

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<v Speaker 6>and that way we can avoid kind of the buys

0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.280
<v Speaker 6>and also just the lag in between. But I do

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<v Speaker 6>think if you get to sixteen and you're talking about

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<v Speaker 6>having more first round games, you are going to have

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<v Speaker 6>to change up the college football schedule a bit in

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<v Speaker 6>regards to when it starts and when these first round

0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:48.719
<v Speaker 6>playoff games start, adding a couple more in there. But

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<v Speaker 6>also just I think it takes away from the bowl season.

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<v Speaker 6>And I've said this before. As much as we want

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<v Speaker 6>to keep looking at the ball season as a reward

0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:02.000
<v Speaker 6>for players, it's just not how it works anymore. Look

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<v Speaker 6>how many players were sitting out for Illinois, you know,

0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:08.280
<v Speaker 6>versus Tennessee and Tennessee for that matter. You know, look

0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:11.040
<v Speaker 6>at the situation that SE's in Danton Lynz already at

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<v Speaker 6>Penn State.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not coaching their defense, and.

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<v Speaker 6>It's their defense that ends up getting their backs broken

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<v Speaker 6>on a third and twenty in overtime. And now granted

0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:21.639
<v Speaker 6>that's more technique and fundamentals, not tackling, but still, you know,

0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:24.960
<v Speaker 6>you look at how that game ends, and it's defensively

0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:26.639
<v Speaker 6>the struggles in and they had a number of players

0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:29.320
<v Speaker 6>who opted out too. So I just I look at

0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:31.720
<v Speaker 6>that portion of it, and I wonder the impact of

0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:34.560
<v Speaker 6>having sixteen teams, and if we do start playing these

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<v Speaker 6>games a little bit sooner, how it would impact the

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<v Speaker 6>rest of the bowl season. If those shouldn't be just

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<v Speaker 6>moved to the front of the season for neutral site

0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:44.440
<v Speaker 6>non conference games in general, I think they would survive

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<v Speaker 6>and probably last a lot longer if that was the case.

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<v Speaker 5>I was about to say, I hate to do it

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<v Speaker 5>because I know you're on a committee, but I think

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<v Speaker 5>this college Playoff as it continues to evolve, is the

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<v Speaker 5>death of bowls. D I really do outside of the

0:20:57.400 --> 0:21:01.560
<v Speaker 5>bowls that exists within the playoff, which is I don't

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<v Speaker 5>how long will that last? You know, how long will

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<v Speaker 5>the bowl games that represent the playoff? How long will

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<v Speaker 5>it be the Rose.

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl or the Cotton Bowl or what he got against

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<v Speaker 1>the Tony the Tiger Sun Bull's wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have anything, but I think what Q said

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<v Speaker 5>is correct. And here's what you got to think about.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I know we had the big conversation about

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<v Speaker 5>Notre Dame opting out of playing the game altogether. But

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<v Speaker 5>if I have Penn State had, I believe fifteen or

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<v Speaker 5>so guys and most all of those guys who opted

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<v Speaker 5>out are preparing for the combine in the NFL draft.

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<v Speaker 5>Now how many will get drafted, I don't know. But

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<v Speaker 5>you're talking about basically the nucleus of your team. And

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<v Speaker 5>while I'm okay with saying, you know, go play it.

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<v Speaker 5>Let the younger guys get an opportunity to play. For one,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't look at those as legitimate victories for one

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<v Speaker 5>or legitimate losses for two. It's not as interesting. It's

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<v Speaker 5>just not it's not as interesting. It seems very very

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, it just seems like it's an exhibition,

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<v Speaker 5>which obviously that is what you know, what bowl games are.

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<v Speaker 5>But it just doesn't have the same type of emotional

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<v Speaker 5>connection to it. Like if you're watching the Orange Bowl,

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<v Speaker 5>you knew what it was. If you knew you know,

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<v Speaker 5>if you were watching the Rose Bowl, you knew that

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<v Speaker 5>it was going to be the pack versus the Big Ten.

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<v Speaker 5>You just knew what that you were going to get

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<v Speaker 5>a pretty interesting matchup within those bowl games. And now

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<v Speaker 5>you got to ask yourself is it worth it as

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<v Speaker 5>a school? Is it worth it financially to do a

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<v Speaker 5>bowl game? And if it's not one of those big,

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<v Speaker 5>high end bowl games, is it worth it to do

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<v Speaker 5>a bowl game? Because it's going to cost to go

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<v Speaker 5>do it. You got to for hotel rooms, you gotta

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<v Speaker 5>you gotta pay for transportation, you got to do all

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<v Speaker 5>of these that you got to pay for food, you

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<v Speaker 5>got to do all these things that bring cost and

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<v Speaker 5>expenses to you to your university. How much is that

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<v Speaker 5>as offset by the amount you're going to receive going

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<v Speaker 5>to the bowl game.

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<v Speaker 1>So the people that are putting the ball game on

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<v Speaker 1>aren't taking care of your travel and your your food

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<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>That's all what I'm telling you is within the expenses

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<v Speaker 5>of what it takes to do those games. They're paying.

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<v Speaker 5>You're getting paid your money, but how much overhead is

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<v Speaker 5>there that's going to eat into that money? And why

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<v Speaker 5>would you why would you do the game? Why would

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<v Speaker 5>you do the game if you know you don't have

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<v Speaker 5>ten fifteen of your players that play. It's like you

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<v Speaker 5>take all of those combinations and you put them together.

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<v Speaker 5>I just don't why would you want to do it? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what, Notre day might have opened up Pandora's box. Man.

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<v Speaker 5>I did a lot of teams that come out and

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<v Speaker 5>be like, man, like, oh, Notre Dame had a great

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<v Speaker 5>they had a great thought on that, like if we

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<v Speaker 5>don't make it into the playoff, like, let's just get

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<v Speaker 5>ready for next year.

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<v Speaker 6>But here's here's the unique scenario for Notre Dame for that.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I've said this before and back in two

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<v Speaker 6>thousand and four when we went six and five ty

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<v Speaker 6>we Longham got fired. You know a lot of the

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<v Speaker 6>conversation from our upperclassmen back then was hey, if it's

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<v Speaker 6>not a BCS or playing for the national championship, obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>Like we don't go.

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<v Speaker 6>And I and a lot of the younger guys were like, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, we got a young group we want to

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<v Speaker 6>keep trying to practice. We want to keep doing this.

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<v Speaker 6>That was our argument, and we took a team vote. Dude,

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<v Speaker 6>we were sixty forty. And what I quickly realized when

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<v Speaker 6>we got out there was even though we had an

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<v Speaker 6>amazing time in Scottsdale, Arizona, like I love that place.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's so much fun, it was a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of fun, and it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 6>There was not a lot of seriousness taken to the

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<v Speaker 6>approach for the game.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was by the players and coach and coaches.

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<v Speaker 6>Because the coaches were looking for new new jobs and

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<v Speaker 6>players were having fun at night. You know, you get

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<v Speaker 6>those boys outside of South Bend, Indiana, man, things things

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<v Speaker 6>get wild. Sommers I would I would say this. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not for opting out of bowl games. I think

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<v Speaker 6>each team has to make their own individual decision. But

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<v Speaker 6>for Notre Dame, it's unique because that's all you're playing

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<v Speaker 6>for every year. You don't have a conference championship, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>you don't have those things that are set for years, goals.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, now, let's get to the playoff and go

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<v Speaker 3>win a national championship.

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<v Speaker 6>So when that's not there for you anymore, there's obviously

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<v Speaker 6>other things to consider, and I think.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't you think other teams would look at it that way?

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<v Speaker 5>Like if we didn't, Yes, I don't. I don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to like this is a nice.

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<v Speaker 6>Season, and I think they have That's why, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>Iowa State, there's others that opted out, and I granted

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<v Speaker 6>some of those schools had, you know, head coaching changes

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<v Speaker 6>and things that played a role in that. And that's

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<v Speaker 6>kind of again where I kind of can relate to that.

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<v Speaker 6>But that's why each like we shouldn't walk down on

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<v Speaker 6>upon the team or players for making that decision, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>because that became a big talking piece for a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of people when I think each team's got.

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<v Speaker 3>Their own reason for what they're doing and why they're

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<v Speaker 3>doing it.

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<v Speaker 6>But to your point, I do think the rest of

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<v Speaker 6>these Bowl games need to start thinking creativity, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>creatively about where can we where can we exist? You

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<v Speaker 6>know in the future. I think the New Year six

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<v Speaker 6>aren't a part of the college wall play up. They

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<v Speaker 1>So do you remember how when Christian McCaffrey and Leonard

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<v Speaker 1>Fournette opted out of bowl games and it was like

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<v Speaker 1>how could they?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, how could you do that to your teammates? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>out of wanting to play in a bowl game and

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<v Speaker 1>they got all sorts of heat about it.

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<v Speaker 2>What you're too good for the bull Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, as a matter of fact, yeah, believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 1>there are certain people in college sports that are better

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<v Speaker 1>to say beneath them, but yeah, they can get to

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<v Speaker 1>places and get to where they want to go and

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<v Speaker 1>not need everything that comes along with every other program

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<v Speaker 1>or every other player in the sport. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that you look at And what reminds me of

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<v Speaker 1>this is years ago, do kind of really down year

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<v Speaker 1>and they decided to not partake in the NIT and

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<v Speaker 1>they got a lot of heat for it, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, what you're too good for the n IT?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as a matter of fact, we have options, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's sort of a bitterness towards players

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<v Speaker 1>and pro who have options who are bigger than some

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<v Speaker 1>of these other things that are thrown on their lap

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<v Speaker 1>and other things that.

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<v Speaker 2>Are out there in the world of college sports.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if you guys see that as

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<v Speaker 1>well too, but I definitely see it. And I've never

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<v Speaker 1>had an issue with a player or a team deciding

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>what they want us to do is not in our

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<v Speaker 1>best interest, despite whether or not anybody likes.

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<v Speaker 3>It or not.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's what's a good point. Yeah, I would

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 5>just say I would say, for me, I didn't opt out.

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 5>And so there's personal personal assessments and then there's sensible assessments.

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 5>The sensible side of me says, it's your choice. You know,

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 5>if you're at the point in your career where you're

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 5>about to go to the pros, I mean, you think

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<v Speaker 5>of who is the young man that was dope linebacker

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 5>for the Notre Dame Jialn Smith plays and he plays

0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 5>in the game, and Jackson's lag up or mcgahey jack

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 5>is lag up, and those are extreme those are extreme cases.

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 5>But I mean, do you want to risk being one

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 5>of the extreme cases that could alter what your future is.

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 5>So I look at it from that perspective and say,

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 5>if somebody wants to, you know, say listen, I'm going

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 5>to prepare for the next level. For what it's worth,

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 5>our regular season is finished, this is the bowl season.

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to opt out. Like I get that.

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 4>Now.

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 5>It's a little harder to make that determination with the

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<v Speaker 5>playoffs because you still have a chance to win the

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 5>national title, and that would to me not mean that

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 5>your season is over. But if it's just a regular

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:40.200
<v Speaker 5>bowl game, you know, if it is the n i

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<v Speaker 5>T Tournament and you are a classic blue blood team

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 5>that generally plays in the regular tournament, I don't I

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 5>don't see there being an issue with it. But I do.

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:53.959
<v Speaker 5>I do think it's cool. Like Deny, you know, Dennis

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 5>Deny Sutton. You know, he he played and he bawled

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 5>and probably butchered his name. I might have messed it

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 5>up because I got used to calling his name different,

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 5>But anyway, he balled out, balled out for Penn State

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:10.399
<v Speaker 5>because I called him Deny. That's all I call him.

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:12.280
<v Speaker 5>But behind did you try to put them all together?

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:15.840
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes I put him in the wrong order. But anyway,

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 5>you know, but Zaye Durant opted out, you know, Zachi Wheatley,

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:24.360
<v Speaker 5>he opted out, And I don't feel any differently about

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:28.319
<v Speaker 5>them than I do with Dennis playing in the game.

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 5>So I just think it's a personal deal. Don't get to,

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 5>like you said, caught up personally into it.

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, look to that point, there's individual decisions. I think

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 6>there's teams decisions too. What's interesting to me about this

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 6>where we're venturing to in college football because you point

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:47.880
<v Speaker 6>out that about Duke, and I think that's always kind

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 6>of existed to for some of the bigger programs that

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 6>if they do have that down year, if.

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:53.800
<v Speaker 3>They don't go to the n I T. You know,

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of you to so be it.

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 6>Like the transfer portal has changed a lot of that

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 6>because your roster turnover is so signif eficant. And I

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 6>think if you look at it from a football perspective nowadays,

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 6>I mean, if you're not a part of the college

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:09.879
<v Speaker 6>football playoff, you're probably going to be losing a good

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:14.359
<v Speaker 6>amount of players either to the portal, to their eligibility

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:18.319
<v Speaker 6>being up, which maybe is in question nowadays, or you know,

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:20.840
<v Speaker 6>to go into the NFL. And if that's the case,

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 6>you know, are you really putting your brand, your program

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:24.879
<v Speaker 6>the best foot forward when you go out and play

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:25.720
<v Speaker 6>some of these bowl games.

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 3>Probably not right.

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 6>I mean, like, do Tennessee losing the Illinois do anything

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:33.400
<v Speaker 6>to help their program or the perception of the SEC.

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely not.

0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 6>And again I'm not saying that they shouldn't go out

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:39.839
<v Speaker 6>there and play because it's another opportunity to go out

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 6>there and play football. It's the greatest game of the

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 6>world in my opinion, but we also act like this

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 6>isn't a business and just talking from the NNIL side

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.839
<v Speaker 6>and how agents talk to these kids, Now, that's how

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 6>it's structured. Like you play your regular season, if you

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 6>play for a national championship, every single agent that's representing

0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 6>these kids are going to tell you to go out

0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 6>there and play. Now, they might be trying to leverage

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:01.719
<v Speaker 6>what you're getting paid, get paid more if you're a

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 6>team that's part of the playoff.

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 3>We heard about that.

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 6>Story last year with nigo Ia Malaiava and Tennessee before

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 6>they played Ohio State, they were trying to redo the

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 6>contract get paid more. So that sort of stuff is

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 6>going on. But when you really peeled all back. You know,

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 6>it doesn't sometimes make as much sense for some of

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 6>those brands and those schools, you know, but again it's

0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 6>their own individual choice. I don't have a problem with

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 6>a guy sitting out or even a team at this

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 6>point only because if they're going to have a lot

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 6>of moving parts with all of it, then why not

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:34.840
<v Speaker 6>focus on what is to be that next season and everyone,

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 6>especially for teams that have guys coming back. I mean,

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:40.879
<v Speaker 6>let's say, for example, last night Jade Mayava got hurt,

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:42.799
<v Speaker 6>I was going to impact his ability to start the

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 6>following year. Does that make that game worth it for

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:49.279
<v Speaker 6>SC especially in hindsight losing the way you did.

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:50.759
<v Speaker 3>Probably not.

0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 6>And so I just that whole question of these exhibition games,

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 6>these additional Bowl games, than their existence, like it's gonna

0:36:59.239 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 6>come to.

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 2>The forefront here soon. Yeah, it's kind of a I

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I look at it and I go, there's a lot

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 1>of people speaking on behalf of choices being made that

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 1>have nothing to do with them. I literally have nothing

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 1>to do with them, does not impact them, does not

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 1>benefit them. Like you mentioned, Jalen smith Man, remember Jake Butt.

0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Jake Butt was thought to be like a really top prospect.

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 2>In the NFL tight end. He got it. He got

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:27.359
<v Speaker 2>his leg ripped up in a bowl game.

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Like it's just like, so you want them to just

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 1>risk it so that you could, you know, seeing what

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:35.320
<v Speaker 1>dump cheese. It's on their head like everybody else is

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 1>doing it. Why can't you do it? Okay, Well, I

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:38.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know because I've got to fifty.

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:39.720
<v Speaker 3>That's the reality.

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:42.720
<v Speaker 6>And if you really peel back that, the business model

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 6>is most of these ball games, these exhibition ball games,

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:46.720
<v Speaker 6>are owned by ESPN.

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 3>If there was forty of them, about half. I think

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 3>they sold off some of them.

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 6>Then some are obviously owned by others, but when you

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 6>really look at it, most of them are owned by ESPN,

0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 6>so it's kind of their own creation. It's part of

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 6>their business model for this time of year because the

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 6>ratings for these bull games are typically higher.

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Than many of these teams usually you.

0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:08.799
<v Speaker 6>Know face like I guarantee you Coastal Carolina and Louis

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 6>Gonna Tech yesterday probably rated higher than any of their

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 6>other games this season because it was on in a

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:16.799
<v Speaker 6>spot where it was a standalone nothing's up against him,

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:19.359
<v Speaker 6>and people are dying for some sort of sports. There's

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:22.319
<v Speaker 6>gambos who want to bet. So that's all part of

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 6>you know, their model to make money off it. So

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 6>there's no one gets more upset about it than ESPN

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:29.479
<v Speaker 6>when a team opts out there not part of their

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:33.240
<v Speaker 6>you know, postseason business model. But does it make sense

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 6>for anyone else you know that that's involved in the process,

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 6>the coaches, the players, maybe not. I mean again, like

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 6>this is not a part of them getting paid additionally,

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:45.440
<v Speaker 6>And that's a conversation we have.

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 3>To start having that.

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 5>That's the big conversation, you.

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 6>Know, like like we're not getting like bowl game bonuses

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 6>for these players if they get in the playoff. Maybe

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:55.839
<v Speaker 6>is structured in there, but like we're not to that

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:57.880
<v Speaker 6>point yet. We don't have a CBA for the players.

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:01.720
<v Speaker 6>There's not a union that's you know, collected collectively bargaining

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:03.760
<v Speaker 6>against whatever power structure is created.

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:07.480
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<v Speaker 8>Spore will be frona cowboy.

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<v Speaker 7>Everybody, Oh my god, well it's not Frian Casey missed

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<v Speaker 7>it boys, And here's a good one for y'all. The

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 7>twenty twenty six Pro Football Hall of Fame have announced

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:39.759
<v Speaker 7>their finalists, and let's go with the you know at

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 7>the top of the chart.

0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:43.799
<v Speaker 2>Here, Drew Brees is in this, Larry.

0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 7>Fitz, Frank Gore, maybe maybe Tory Holt, Luke Keikley. Shout

0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 7>out to the linebackers, Willie Anderson, Jare Evans Eli is

0:40:57.640 --> 0:41:02.439
<v Speaker 7>on there again, Terrell Suggs, vinetary ad invententary for those

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:07.800
<v Speaker 7>Reggie Wayne, Kevin Williams, Jason Witten, Darren Woodson.

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:10.120
<v Speaker 2>And Marshall yonder Man.

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, all those dudes will probably get in. I

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 3>don't know how many get in this time.

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 2>There's five, right, yeah.

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:23.920
<v Speaker 5>So I get I get hit up by a couple

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:27.759
<v Speaker 5>of voters and they give me the list. I'll tell you,

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 5>I'm looking for the messages. I'll tell you who I

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 5>gave them, who I gave them. Darren Woodson. I think

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 5>it's long overdue for Darren Woodson to get in. I

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 5>think it's way long overdue for Tory Holt to get in.

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 5>I think it's way long overdue for Willy Anderson to

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:47.720
<v Speaker 5>get in. And I think Luke Keigley and Frank Borer

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:51.160
<v Speaker 5>should get in Wow, those are my five over Breeze,

0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 5>I think. I mean, I get it, I get it.

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 3>It's the first ballot Hall of Favor.

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 5>It won't it won't be over Breeze. But if you're

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:04.359
<v Speaker 5>asking me the five, if if I had to replace one,

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:07.840
<v Speaker 5>I'd say probably Luke with with Drew Brees. But I

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 5>gotta put the line.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, Frank Laura, if you're going to replace

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 2>one of those, I would.

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 5>Say, his body of work is too. It's so great though, I.

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 2>Think you should get into But if you're only picking five.

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but his body of work, like who's done with

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:21.760
<v Speaker 5>Frank Gore has done.

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:24.879
<v Speaker 3>Quarterback, I think he's got a better that's fair.

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:27.919
<v Speaker 5>That's fair too. Yeah, that is fair. That is fair.

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 5>I mean you're listen. If it's Frank Gordon has to

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:33.760
<v Speaker 5>go as I mean that that was my five, guys.

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 5>That that was That's what I gave you.

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:39.319
<v Speaker 3>That's I said my five.

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 5>I didn't say. I didn't say it was factually back.

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 3>That's what you didn't say five? Either said it was

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 3>your five?

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:44.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 1>How come they don't they don't reach out to me

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:48.480
<v Speaker 1>to get my five? Yeah, I don't know.

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 6>I don't know what I think Keiley has to get in.

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 6>Was he an All Pro for like four five? I

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 6>mean he defensive player of there, defensive rookie. Ye, he's

0:42:57.640 --> 0:42:59.319
<v Speaker 6>got all the accolades. I know it was, you know

0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 6>it wasn't long. But I don't think he was ever

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:03.719
<v Speaker 6>worse than an eight, like a second team All.

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<v Speaker 3>Pro five time All Pro.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, first team, he was a second team for like

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<v Speaker 6>the rest of them.

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<v Speaker 5>If your first team All Pro one time, you've done

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<v Speaker 5>well in your life, You've done well in your life.

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<v Speaker 5>That's how hard it is to become a first team

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<v Speaker 5>All Pro. That's elusive.

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<v Speaker 7>Man.

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<v Speaker 6>I'd say there's other definitions for doing well in life,

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<v Speaker 6>but yes, that is.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't know that. I mean, okay, miss Notre Dame,

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<v Speaker 5>I went to Penn State. Relax, Relax, I'm educated.

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<v Speaker 2>To Hannon.

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<v Speaker 5>A whole. Let's take a break. Let's take a