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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Bombshell claim in a multi count indictment accusing twin brothers

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Speaker 2: and property czars of violent sex assaults. I, Nancy Grace,

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Speaker 2: this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 2: Of course, we're talking about a lawn and or in Alexander,

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Speaker 2: the famous luxury real estate brokers now facing claims they

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Speaker 2: repeatedly over years lured female victims, then taking turns sex

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Speaker 2: assaulting them. In the last days, a woman accusing the

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Speaker 2: twin brothers the property magnates of violent sex assaults, claims

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Speaker 2: in texts she is convinced they would kill.

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Speaker 1: Her if she spoke out.

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Speaker 2: That's right, and newly released text messages between the alleged

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Speaker 2: victim and her friend she calls the brother's family quote

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Speaker 2: the worst people because she's convinced they would hire a hitman,

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Speaker 2: a hit man to kill her if she ever went

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Speaker 2: public with her claims. What claims, oh brace yourselves.

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Speaker 3: But Trio Brothers luxury real estate agents to the super rich.

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Speaker 3: Indicted on federal sex trafficking and battery charges. Claims go

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Speaker 3: back more than a decade.

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Speaker 2: Claims going back more than a decade, Try two decades.

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Speaker 2: Now forty women that we know of, the claiming these

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Speaker 2: filt the rich real estate moguls took part in rape

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Speaker 2: after rape after systematic rape, and that the allegations go

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Speaker 2: back to when they were in high school. All that money,

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Speaker 2: all that privilege and education has bought them a one

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Speaker 2: way ticket to hell with a pitstop and.

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Speaker 1: The federal penitentiary. That's my prediction.

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Speaker 2: But I want you to hear what Damian Williams, the

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Speaker 2: US attorney, has to say.

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Speaker 4: The Alexander brothers and other men they planned the trips with,

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Speaker 4: paid for the flights or accommodations for the women on

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Speaker 4: these trips, and at times the defendants handpicked the women

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Speaker 4: to invite. At other times they used paid party promoters

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Speaker 4: to source women for them. The indictment also alleges that

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Speaker 4: in advance of these events, the Alexander brothers and others

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Speaker 4: procured drugs that they agreed to provide to the women,

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Speaker 4: including cocaine, mushrooms, and GHB as. We allege that these

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Speaker 4: drugs caused some of the women to be physically unable

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Speaker 4: to fight back or to escape.

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Speaker 2: Now you know why they're calling it the new ditty

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Speaker 2: or should I say the new Ditties? Now that's what

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Speaker 2: the US attorney is saying for the US attorney for

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Speaker 2: the Southern District. But I want you to look at

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Speaker 2: orin Alexander on the founder.

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Speaker 5: Having the ability to work with my brother, to have

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Speaker 5: a partner with your brother, and I just think about

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Speaker 5: that for a seconds. The biggest issue you have in

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Speaker 5: partnership is trust and knowing that you don't have to worry.

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Speaker 1: Honey, you got something to worry about.

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Speaker 2: Now, what if your brother flips on you and testifies

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Speaker 2: against you. Let's just analyze what we just heard, and

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Speaker 2: that's where our friends. That from the founder on YouTube,

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Speaker 2: that's or an Alexander one of the and I mean

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Speaker 2: filed the rich rolling in money, that's or an Alexander quote.

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Speaker 2: Having the ability to work with my brother, to have

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Speaker 2: a partner who's your brother.

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Speaker 1: You know, just think about that for a second. Don't worry.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: The biggest issue you have in partnership is trust and

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Speaker 2: knowing you don't have to worry.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what happened with me?

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Speaker 2: An All Star panel, Let's get to it straight out

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Speaker 2: to christ Yo joining US national news anchor Salem News Channel, Christina,

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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us I'm really curious about

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Speaker 2: how much money these two have. And this goes all

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Speaker 2: the way back. Their family is wealthy, their grandfather wealthy,

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah, kind of like Luigi MANNGIONI just

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Speaker 2: all that money to silver spoons in the mouth.

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Speaker 1: And yet this what happened, Christina.

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Speaker 6: You know, actually I think it started way back when

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Speaker 6: they were in high school. As people are now starting

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Speaker 6: to come out and say that they actually had a

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Speaker 6: sex fan that was parked in front of their parents

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Speaker 6: forty million dollars beachfront of state where the boys, the

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Speaker 6: brothers in high school would take women to have sex

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Speaker 6: in that bus in front of their parents' house. So

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Speaker 6: this has been behavior that has been encouraged, perhaps by

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Speaker 6: their parents, all the way through. Then you add the

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Speaker 6: hundreds of millions of dollars in properties that these brothers

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Speaker 6: have sold and the security business, and they're pretty much

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Speaker 6: running around town doing anything that they want, including, according

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Speaker 6: to prosecutors, drugging women raping women. Each brother has separately

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Speaker 6: been accused of at least ten rapes, ten forcible rapes

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Speaker 6: by women, and prosecutors are saying that.

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, Christina, Christina Ohio, hold on don't wait a minute.

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Speaker 1: We were just looking at them, Karen Stark.

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Speaker 2: Why is it so hard for people to believe that

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Speaker 2: super wealthy, college educated, great job guys can commit heinous crimes?

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Speaker 1: That's what he posted on his own Facebook.

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Speaker 7: Go ahead, well, I really believe Nancy, and people see

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Speaker 7: this outward of parents.

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Speaker 1: They're dressed so.

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Speaker 8: Well, they look so terrific that they buy that that

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Speaker 8: they believe that that's what they really like, and they

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Speaker 8: have no idea what's going on behind the scene. And

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Speaker 8: actually the fact that he says he trusts his brother,

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Speaker 8: I was thinking, yet they trust all of them trust

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Speaker 8: each other in supporting the crimes that they committed, which

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Speaker 8: made it even worse because they were encouraged.

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Speaker 2: Nima Ramani is joining US high profile lawyer out of

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Speaker 2: the California jurisdiction and for my purposes, former federal prosecutor,

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Speaker 2: president of the West Coast Trial Lawyers and author of

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Speaker 2: Harvard to hashtag Nina, thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 2: Many people not familiar with our world of crime would say, hey,

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Speaker 2: why do they have to rape women with good looks?

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Speaker 2: Of course they're not attractive to me. I think they

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Speaker 2: look like Satan himself. But with good looks and all

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Speaker 2: that money, they could get any woman they want, so

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Speaker 2: why rape a woman? That kind of argument has actually

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Speaker 2: worked on jurys before, Nima, it has.

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Speaker 9: But Nancy, this isn't just having sex with women. We're

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Speaker 9: talking about drug induced to orgies right where multiple men,

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Speaker 9: including the two brothers, are allegedly having sex with the

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Speaker 9: same woman. So, yeah, women might want to have sex

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Speaker 9: with a handsome, wealthy man, but not get in a

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Speaker 9: situation where they're having an orgy and they are being

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Speaker 9: violated by multiple men.

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Speaker 2: Your speaking sense to me, Yes, I know that. That's

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Speaker 2: my point, Nama, I'm like two steps beyond that.

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Speaker 1: Of course, what you just said is right.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is it would be argued to a jury.

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Speaker 1: Just look at them.

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Speaker 2: Why would they have to source women with a pr

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Speaker 2: person in other words, basically pimp for pimp for the

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Speaker 2: ergo they're innocent.

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Speaker 9: It's not just any woman, Nancy. They need new women

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Speaker 9: every single night, and they want to do things to

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Speaker 9: these women that a lot of women wouldn't consent to. Now,

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Speaker 9: obviously this is a family show, so I'm not going

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Speaker 9: to get into all that. But that's why they're using

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Speaker 9: drugs like GHP to drug these women so they can't

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Speaker 9: say no.

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Speaker 10: That's what this is all about.

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Speaker 9: And the tailor's old as time doesn't matter if it's

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Speaker 9: the Alexander Brothers Diddy, Okay, I can say that.

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Speaker 2: I'm clearly I think you and I have a communication

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Speaker 2: problem because you're just basically saying everything that I say.

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Speaker 1: I'm Linn Shaw.

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Speaker 2: Helped me out here, founder executive director Lynn's Warriors, committed

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Speaker 2: to ending sex attacks on children and women. Lynn Shaw.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to make the point that the argument will

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Speaker 2: be made by the defense. I already know the facts

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Speaker 2: is presented by the state. Everything that Ramani just.

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Speaker 1: Said, I get it.

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Speaker 2: I've read the indictment. Okay, the defense is going to

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Speaker 2: argue at trial they don't need to rape women. They

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Speaker 2: can get any woman they want. Therefore, this is consensual.

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Speaker 2: That's bs it's argued in so many rape cases.

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Speaker 11: I call them the Alexander Brothers crime family, and I

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Speaker 11: call these dirty Ditty complicit wannabes. Listen, the egos are

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Speaker 11: so big they're out of control. Again, this is the

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Speaker 11: same story we heard with Ditty and others facing charges

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Speaker 11: going to throw in the girls again. I wish we

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Speaker 11: could get down to were there any miners involved, But

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Speaker 11: that will unfold at some point. They want to see

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Speaker 11: and live this lifestyle. Many of these women were approached

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Speaker 11: online complete strangers, and they said, we'll fly you out,

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Speaker 11: We'll give you hotels, we'll give you parties, we'll give

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Speaker 11: you clothes, and vulnerable people, girls especially really want to

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Speaker 11: experience this. I'm here to say if this case can

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Speaker 11: help us educate the general public, because we're hearing about

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Speaker 11: all these you know, dirty ditty We're hearing about Tape brothers,

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Speaker 11: We're hearing about Jeffrey Epstein, we're hearing about now these

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Speaker 11: criminal Alexander brothers. If it could, if it could water

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Speaker 11: down eventually, my hope is to everyday cases that are happening,

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Speaker 11: that nobody will ever hear those victims, see those victims,

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Speaker 11: so we can educate everybody. When they offer you something

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Speaker 11: like this, this lifestyle for free, they're going to fly

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Speaker 11: you somewhere run.

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Speaker 1: In the other direction.

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Speaker 11: This is again their powers, their money, their egos, their homes,

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Speaker 11: overtaking people's common sense. We have to do better educating

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Speaker 11: the public, girls and women about all of this.

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Speaker 2: Their family wealth has been estimated, correct me if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 2: Christina a whyo joining me from Salemuse Channel, over one

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen million dollars.

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Speaker 6: Correct, And I'm I'm sure that's even more than that.

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Speaker 6: Is the parents have offered to put up to one

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Speaker 6: billion dollars to get their three boys out of prison

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Speaker 6: out on bail. They've even offered to put them up

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Speaker 6: in a second story apartment complex where they're jail time

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Speaker 6: pre trial, that has no beachfront, that has no luxury,

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Speaker 6: that's you know, guarded twenty four to seven by guard.

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Speaker 2: Way whoa wha waite, white white Christina, Wait, did you

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Speaker 2: say the parents want to get them out of jail

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Speaker 2: on a billion as in brother b brother billion dollar bill.

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Speaker 1: And the jail is because they don't have a beach.

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Speaker 6: They won't have a view, they won't have any orgies,

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Speaker 6: and it won't be luxuries. So that's what they're considering

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Speaker 6: to be jail. And yes, up to one billion with

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Speaker 6: a beach is what they're willing to put up to

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Speaker 6: get their three sons out of prison.

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Speaker 1: Bill Day, it's the ditties.

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Speaker 2: It's the new ditties because all the money procuring the women,

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Speaker 2: making other people be your hench person to bring women

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Speaker 2: to you, to drug them and rate them.

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Speaker 1: Those are the allegations that presumed innocent.

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Speaker 2: But also is Luigi Mangioni all over again. Here is

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Speaker 2: a rich brat kid whining about how US common people

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Speaker 2: have to live with the healthcare industry while he's in

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Speaker 2: a beach front Hawaii luxury high rise condo. His great

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Speaker 2: grandparents and grandparents and broke their backs coming to this

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Speaker 2: country and becoming millionaires, working up.

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Speaker 1: From nothing nothing, passing it down.

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Speaker 2: So Luigi Mangioni could find in his luxury condo these

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Speaker 2: two same thing.

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Speaker 1: Bill.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, and in this case they've actually built their business,

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Speaker 12: so they've built their brand. They now feel omnipotent. I

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Speaker 12: mean they have money, they're traveling with celebrities, they're flying

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Speaker 12: on private jets. You know, they're selling these huge, multi

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Speaker 12: multimillion dollar properties. They are getting headlines in all kinds

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Speaker 12: of media, including their own real estate empire.

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Speaker 10: So you know, these are the paper people.

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Speaker 12: If I put a profile around the FBI profile, but

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Speaker 12: I know enough of them to speak about how these people.

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Speaker 10: Become can become emboldened, emblazoned.

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Speaker 2: Guess what, I got a superseding indictment. I bet that's

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Speaker 2: FEDS have a superseding indictment, this is for conspiracy to

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Speaker 2: so exactly. Who are the so called real estate Bros.

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Speaker 13: There are three Alexander brothers. Two of the brothers are

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: In the Last Days, an alleged sex assault victim who

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Speaker 2: She also says cousin and friend Ohad Fisherman, also a

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Speaker 2: Day prosecutors, who have leveled criminal charges against the men,

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Speaker 1: A gang rape. What do we know about the facts?

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Speaker 14: In a fifty million dollar Upper east Side townhouse, the

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Speaker 1: What am I hearing?

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, A fifty million dollar Upper east Side townhouse.

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Speaker 2: The real estate bros celebrate their twenty eighth birthday celebrates

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Speaker 1: Deja vous? Huh does this remind you of anything? Hi diddy?

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Speaker 2: There, you are nothing like eating sushi off a naked

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Speaker 1: Well, guess what.

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Speaker 2: The Feds apparently in this case anyway, don't care how

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Speaker 1: Listen to the US Attorney for the Southern District.

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Speaker 4: Omni or the Alexander Brothers, sometimes acting alone, sometimes with

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Speaker 4: sex trafficking agreement went beyond the plan trips and events.

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Speaker 4: On numerous occasions, one or more of the defendants drugged

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Speaker 1: It's really a lot to take in.

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Speaker 2: You know, very often, as a former prosecutor prosecuting nothing

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Speaker 2: I realized, about five years into that kind of thinking,

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Speaker 2: why ask why? It doesn't matter. I had one job

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Speaker 2: to seek the truth. Who did, what, where, when?

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Speaker 1: And why? Why not?

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Speaker 2: So much to Karen Stark, renowned psychologists joining us, Karen,

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Speaker 2: it's not about sex.

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Speaker 1: That's a simple answer for me.

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Speaker 2: Why don't the real estate bros with all their money

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Speaker 1: It's not about the sex. What is it?

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Speaker 7: It's a perversion Nancy. They're getting off on raping satemizing.

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Speaker 7: A normal relationship, the kind that you're referring to, does

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Speaker 7: not excite them. They have gotten used to this kind

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Speaker 7: and this is what gets them excited.

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Speaker 8: Nothing else.

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Speaker 2: Talk about a wolf in sheep's clothing. These wild, extravagant

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Speaker 13: The fabulous parties with fabulous people might have been a

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Speaker 13: Each of the three brothers has been accused of forcible

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Speaker 13: Alan are charged with sexual battery in Florida. The Alexanders

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Speaker 2: Second verse, same as the first. Do I have to

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Speaker 2: say deja vu all over again? Why the real estate

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Speaker 2: bros Are called the New didties same thing now they

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Speaker 2: called it fabulous parties.

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Speaker 1: Diddy calls it freakoffs.

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Speaker 4: Homes allegedly planned and controlled the sex performances, which he

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Speaker 1: The freak offs.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes lasted days at a time, involved multiple commercial sex workers,

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Speaker 10: Obedient and compliant.

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Speaker 4: As alleged, when Combes didn't get his way, he was

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Speaker 2: To Christina Awaio, joining US investigative reporter and news anchor,

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Speaker 2: the comparison between the real estate Bros And Ditty are inescapable.

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Speaker 6: They are They both are basically using their power and

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Speaker 1: However, the brothers.

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Speaker 6: Have been doing this I think longer than Diddy, all

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Speaker 1: And the same goes for Diddy.

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Speaker 6: He has so much power and so much money, people

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Speaker 6: that they'll be blacklisted from certain events. And I think

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Speaker 6: the same is true for the Brothers.

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Real estate czars, twin brothers and a relative. An alleged

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Speaker 2: victim claims she says she fears the suspect's family would

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Speaker 2: it isn't her going public, it's the government. Prosecutors now

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Speaker 1: Of sex assault.

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Speaker 2: The thirty seven year old brothers, the twins, are facing

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Speaker 2: charges for allegedly drugging and raping multiple women, and according

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Speaker 2: to prosecutors, it went on for years. The brothers also

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Speaker 1: US attorneys in the Southern District of New York.

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Speaker 2: That's the Feds returned to three count indictment in December

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Speaker 2: He's thirty eight, also employed as a luxury realtor in

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Speaker 2: who are celebs.

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Speaker 1: In the Manhattan and the Miami.

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Speaker 2: Party scenes, used their real estate reputations and celebrity to

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Speaker 1: What more do we know?

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Speaker 2: A woman writes a friend in text messages that she

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Speaker 2: the realty bros. As they are now called. Two twin

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Speaker 2: massive piles of paper charging these three with years and

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Speaker 1: The ax Await.

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Speaker 3: Rape charges in jail. As a New York federal judge

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Speaker 2: The Alexander Brothers, a so called real estate bros rolling

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Speaker 13: Listen, The Alexander brothers fall from grace begins when the

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Speaker 13: Real Deal reports on damning lawsuits brought by alleged victims

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Speaker 13: Kay Wyman and Rebecca Mandel. Whyman alleges the brothers abducted

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Speaker 13: isn't it amazing?

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Speaker 1: Linn Saw joining us in Lynz Warriors.

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Speaker 2: How it only takes one person, one person to stand

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Speaker 1: House of cards to fall down.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, but we have to educate everybody that we will

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Speaker 11: stand next to you. That is what I'm hoping all

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Speaker 11: of these dirty ditties and this Alexander Brothers crime family

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Speaker 11: will bring more public awareness again watering down to you know,

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Speaker 11: There was so much video evidence here, and I want

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Speaker 11: where they upload it to porn sites?

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Speaker 1: Was there millions of dollars? Because we do a lot

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Speaker 1: of work with this.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Lynn Shaw, hold on, you're exactly right

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Speaker 2: straight out to Christina at Wyo, joining US News anchor

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Speaker 2: investigative reporter, What are the so called trophies of the

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Speaker 2: real estate bros That.

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Speaker 1: Has just have just been revealed.

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Speaker 6: Yes, well, it's one thing to have a witness testimony, right,

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Speaker 6: As we just saw with the Cassie and Diddy situation.

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Speaker 6: found a hard drive filled with pictures and videos. They're

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Speaker 6: saying in these videos, of course, there's the quote unquote

442
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Speaker 6: Orgys or the sessions where alleged rape is happening. They're

443
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Speaker 6: saying that women can be seen highly intoxicated on alcohol

444
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 6: or maybe even drug. They're saying they're seeing in these

445
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Speaker 6: videos where the brothers are physically manipulting these women's bodies

446
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 6: to have sex with them, and most of the time

447
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 6: they're seeing these women do not know they're being recorded.

448
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Speaker 6: There's this one incident that they explain that a woman

449
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 6: and a man are having sex in a stall and

450
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Speaker 6: another person is recording over the stall with a camera,

451
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Speaker 6: and when the woman sees it, she protests, she says no.

452
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Speaker 6: So it's going to be pretty difficult for whatever reason

453
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 6: they kept these videos, or they have these videos, It's

454
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Speaker 6: going to be difficult to defend this in court.

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Speaker 2: Christina, you stated that one of the videos was taken

456
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Speaker 2: over a stall.

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Speaker 6: What yep, So a man and a woman were having sex.

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Speaker 6: It did in detail if that was forced rape. It

459
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Speaker 6: didn't detail what that was exactly. But there is a

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Speaker 6: third person who is holding a video camera up over

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Speaker 6: the bathroom stall where the woman and man are inside

462
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Speaker 6: of that stall having sex. And the woman sees the camera.

463
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Speaker 6: She tells them to stop, and they don't stop. And

464
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Speaker 6: that's what prosecutors are saying. They're not listening to these women.

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Speaker 6: They're manipulating their bodies, and they won't stop when the

466
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Speaker 6: women are asking them to stop.

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Speaker 2: Trophies trophies. Tanima Ramani is joining US former federal prosecutor,

468
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Speaker 2: president of West Coast Trial Warriors, author of Harvard to

469
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: hashtags Nima trophies.

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Speaker 1: Have been the undoing of so many criminals.

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Speaker 9: Explain, Oh, it's great evidence if you're a prosecutor, because

472
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 9: people can lie. Criminal defendants lie all the time, even

473
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Speaker 9: witnesses and victims can sometimes lie. But video doesn't lie.

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00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 9: And when you have video of these sex acts, that

475
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Speaker 9: is the best evidence when you're a prosecutor, because really

476
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 9: there's only two defenses in any sex trafficking case. Either

477
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 9: the sexual activity didn't happen or it was consensual. That's it.

478
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Speaker 9: And once you have that video, it certainly takes away

479
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 9: the first defense, and then when women are being drugged,

480
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 9: takes away the second as well. And there's really two

481
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Speaker 9: reasons why people record these sex acts. The first is

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Speaker 9: their own deviant sexual pleasure, and I think that's probably

483
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Speaker 9: why Diddy was recording his freak offs. But there's the

484
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Speaker 9: second reason, and that is to have control over the

485
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Speaker 9: victimsotentially blackmailed them and say, hey, if you come after me,

486
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Speaker 9: I'm going to leak these.

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Speaker 1: Videos Christina and Jayo.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it true that these videos were pulled off of

489
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Speaker 2: a hard drive that was found hidden in a closet

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Speaker 2: during a federal search, Yes.

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Speaker 6: In Tall Alexander's Manhattan apartment, so they were really searching.

492
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Speaker 6: They had the warrant to go through everything, and he

493
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Speaker 6: kept them. He kept them on a hard drive. And

494
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Speaker 6: it's not just videos, it's pictures as well. And it

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Speaker 6: goes to show that just like he said, men light

496
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Speaker 6: women light, witnesses lie perhaps, but the video is not

497
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Speaker 6: going to lie and this is pretty tough evidence. However,

498
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Speaker 6: the defense is already saying this doesn't prove anything. This

499
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Speaker 6: doesn't prove a commercial act. This doesn't prove that they

500
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Speaker 6: were drugged. It may prove that they're intoxicated. But he's saying, oh,

501
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 6: these are just big orgies. Everybody was willing and there

502
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Speaker 6: is nothing going on here, So next story, please, you know.

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Speaker 1: It reminds me.

504
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Speaker 2: In the last few days, Shawn Comes aka Diddi's defense

505
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: team has stated they want the free coll videos to

506
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Speaker 2: be made public because it quote proves his innocence. Okay, sure,

507
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: you know another thing. If it's so innocent, why was

508
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: it hidden in a closet? But thinking about the videos

509
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: the trophies pulled from a hard drive in the real

510
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: estate bro's closet, it reminds me of a certain raid

511
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: that went down on San Combs's mansion. In that case,

512
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Speaker 2: as well, Bill Daily, former FBI trophies quote trophies were

513
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Speaker 2: obtained during that raid. Bill Daily video equipment was reportedly

514
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Speaker 2: discovered along with over one thousand bottles of lubricant Baby oil.

515
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Speaker 2: Trophies have been the bane of many criminals existence why trophies.

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Speaker 12: You know, and as if you go to other kind

517
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Speaker 12: of repeat offenders, repeat criminals such as Dennis Raider, the

518
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 12: bund torture kill fiend. You know, they keep pieces of

519
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 12: clothing to keep some something to remind them something.

520
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 10: Who's going to get them excited, Something's going.

521
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 12: To you know, make them remember how how wonderful it

522
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Speaker 12: was that they controlled this person, that they did what

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Speaker 12: they did.

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Speaker 10: And so for all these things, it's some.

525
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Speaker 2: Way are you putting perfume on the pig daily, that's

526
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: not like you the souvenirs, the trophies quote get them excited.

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00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: You may give them an direction.

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Speaker 12: Well, you know that as well as sharing among other

529
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 12: people being able to. In some cases they like to

530
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Speaker 12: share it because they've they've had this experience of other people.

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Speaker 10: They keep it.

532
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Speaker 12: They look at themselves, you know, maybe other people. They

533
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 12: let them see that. That all kind of gives them

534
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 12: a sense of control. It goes back to that essence

535
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Speaker 12: of controlling individuals, controlling their environment, doing what they want

536
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Speaker 12: to do, using that leverage over people.

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Speaker 10: You know. In this case, Nancy, in a very interesting

538
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 10: point it came up, which.

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Speaker 12: Is simply we've seen in other cases is that as

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Speaker 12: the FBI was investigating this, reports are coming out that

541
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Speaker 12: multiple victims have the same stories. Again, people who've been

542
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 12: not connected, not there at the same place, same time,

543
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Speaker 12: but have the same to tell.

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Speaker 10: All of that is extreming.

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Speaker 12: And as part of what I believe the FBI is

546
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Speaker 12: and the US the Attorney's officers making their case out of,

547
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 12: is that they have statements.

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Speaker 10: And I would encourage people.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm very curious, Bill Daily. I think this

550
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Speaker 1: goes beyond.

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Speaker 2: Your or my kin colloquial for understanding. Joining me psychologist

552
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 2: Karen Stark. Everything Bill Daily said is correct, But what

553
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Speaker 2: is the reason, the mental or the psychological reason that

554
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: people like Dennis Raider or in this case, the real

555
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 2: estate bros also called the rape bros.

556
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Speaker 1: But those are just accusations. Why keep all these videos

557
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: they're damning.

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Speaker 7: It's a wonderful way for them to relive the crime.

559
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 7: Nancy and whatever got them off when they were doing it,

560
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 7: whatever got them excited and gave them erections and orgasms.

561
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Speaker 7: They can do that all over again repeatedly because they

562
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Speaker 7: have these trophies.

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Speaker 1: It's great if it's.

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Speaker 7: A video, but it can be an airing, It could

565
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Speaker 7: be a necklace. It could be a piece of clothing.

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Speaker 7: It doesn't matter. They wind up reliving the excitement that

567
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Speaker 7: they felt at the time and how much they controlled

568
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Speaker 7: the situation.

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Speaker 1: For years.

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Speaker 4: The Alexander brothers, sometimes with others, also arranged domestic and

571
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Speaker 4: international trips to carry out their sex trafficking scheme. To

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Speaker 4: recruit and induce women to come on the trips, they

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Speaker 4: provided material benefits, things like travel to vacation destinations, luxury accommodations,

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Speaker 4: and access to other high end experiences.

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Speaker 1: Are the claims true? Should I believe the real estate Bros?

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Speaker 2: Or should I believe all of the women now coming forward,

577
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Speaker 2: some of them named in federal indictments, others filing civil suits.

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Speaker 1: What's very hard.

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Speaker 2: For many people to understand, including myself, is how the

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Speaker 2: real estate bros. Acted, how they faked a happy home life.

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Speaker 13: Listen, the Alexander brothers are all married now. A Lawn

582
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 13: married Shaney Zigrin, with whom he has two children, in

583
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Speaker 13: May of twenty twenty, or In married model Camilla Hanson

584
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Speaker 13: in April twenty twenty three, and Tall married Ariel CogAT

585
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Speaker 13: in October of twenty twenty three. Or In pleaded with

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Speaker 13: a judge to let him out as his wife was

587
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Speaker 13: pregnant and do any day. His request was denied.

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Speaker 2: That's something the baby can say as it grows up.

589
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: Dad was in jail on rape charges when I was born.

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Speaker 2: This whole facade of a happy family again, it's diddy

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Speaker 2: Rediu listen, be happy.

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Speaker 10: I love you. Two of you get hit on the

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Speaker 10: phone time.

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Speaker 1: To veterman.

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Speaker 2: Try a lawyer of former felony prosecutor Ramani Nima. It

596
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: would not be the first time a so called family

597
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 2: man was ultimately convicted of repeat offenses. I mean, there's

598
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Speaker 2: Dennis Raider that Bill Dealey brought up earlier, who would

599
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: sex assault and kill so many women and including young

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00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: girls on his dog catching route the whole time. He

601
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Speaker 2: had a family at home, and he was a deacon

602
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 2: in the church. Then you've got Gaysey John Wayne Gacy,

603
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Speaker 2: who would go to children's birthday parties to entertain the

604
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Speaker 2: children dressed as a clown.

605
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Speaker 1: I don't know how many.

606
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: Boys' bodies were pulled out of his crawl space. Then

607
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: you got Ted Bundy, who seemingly was a successful law

608
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: school student.

609
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Speaker 1: He's a serial killer.

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Speaker 2: He goes on and on and do I have to

611
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Speaker 2: say rex Huerman, the eight hundred pound gorilla in the room,

612
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: the architect by day, serial killer by night, with a

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Speaker 2: wife and two.

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Speaker 1: Children, Nancy and Human.

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Speaker 9: His wife actually saw some of these sex acts, at

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Speaker 9: least allegedly, So this question of what she knew, well,

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Speaker 9: this is criminal defense.

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Speaker 10: Lawyering one oh one.

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Speaker 9: They want to show the jurors that the defendant has

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Speaker 9: family support. That's why you see Ditty's family at every

621
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Speaker 9: single appearance. That's why I fully expect the Alexander brothers

622
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Speaker 9: to have their parents, the wives who haven't filed divorce

623
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Speaker 9: to be at those court proceedings, because that's what jurors expect.

624
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Speaker 9: They want to see the family members supporting the folks

625
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Speaker 9: who are accused and are on trap.

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Speaker 1: And like Didty, the new Ditties have a.

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00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 2: Fantastical scheme of how they're going to stay out of

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Speaker 2: MDC Metropolitan Detention Center listen.

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Speaker 13: In a crazy bid to keep their boys out of incarceration,

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Speaker 13: the parents of the Alexander brothers have offered to provide

631
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Speaker 13: private imprisonment. In a real proposal to authorities, Shlomo and

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Speaker 13: Early Alexander proposed confining the brothers to a two bedroom

633
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Speaker 13: apartment on the eighth floor of Miami building. Emphasize the

634
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 13: apartment is non waterfront and non luxury. They promised security

635
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 13: guards would be stationed around the clock and an alarm

636
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Speaker 13: system would make sure the brothers remain on site. The

637
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Speaker 13: parents also offered to put up to one billion dollars

638
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Speaker 13: bail for their sons to get out of jail.

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Speaker 1: In case you.

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Speaker 2: Didn't get that, it's one billion as in brother biz

641
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: in brother, not million billion. The parents offering to put

642
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: up one billion dollars cash to get their sons out

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Speaker 2: of jail. Maybe they were going to put in some

644
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 2: equity into that, but one billion dollars bail to get

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Speaker 2: their sons out and having them imprisoned.

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Speaker 1: In a Miami high rise, and.

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Speaker 2: The suffering part was that they wouldn't get a beach

648
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Speaker 2: front view ouch.

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Speaker 1: That has to hurt. How dare you mommy and daddy?

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Speaker 1: Christina Yo.

651
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Speaker 2: It's reminiscent of the last bid, well the last three

652
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: bids by Sean Combs to get out on bid where

653
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Speaker 2: he offered the judge a multimillion dollar bill package I

654
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Speaker 2: think it was twenty meal and he would stay in

655
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Speaker 2: a Manhattan town home with his own private security guards

656
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Speaker 2: to keep him from raping people.

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Speaker 1: Eerie echo, right, And that's the draw, right exactly. I

658
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Speaker 1: promised not to rape anybody during this time.

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Speaker 6: I promised that I'm not going to have any orgies.

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Speaker 6: In fact, I won't even have any women over So

661
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 6: that in and of itself is a huge punishment. This

662
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Speaker 6: is the same thing that we're seeing with these brothers.

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Speaker 6: And quite frankly, I don't know how much the parents

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Speaker 6: can be trusted in this whole situation, because we talk

665
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Speaker 6: about pretending to have a perfect family. But I go

666
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 6: back to the sex bus that was sitting outside of

667
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Speaker 6: their forty million dollar home as the brothers were in

668
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 6: high school, and people have said witness testimony, they are

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00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 6: saying that back in those days that women in the scene,

670
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 6: in the Miami scene because for some reason, high school

671
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 6: brothers were in the Miami scene. They were warned not

672
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Speaker 6: to drink any drinks that came from the brothers and

673
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Speaker 6: to stay away from the brothers.

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Speaker 14: The Alexander brothers are accused of using their wealth and

675
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 14: positions to create and facilitate opportunities to rape and sexually

676
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Speaker 14: assault women. So far, more than forty women have come

677
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 14: forward accusing the three Alexander brothers of sexual misconducts, and

678
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 14: investigators are asking other women who believe they have been.

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Speaker 1: Assaulted to call.

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Speaker 14: Attorneys for the brothers say they planned to plead not

681
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 14: guilty to the charges, which, if convicted, could lend all

682
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Speaker 14: three brothers in prison for life.

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Speaker 2: As we are discussing these alleged acts, sex assault, rape, sodomies,

684
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Speaker 2: that's what we're saying. Reportedly date all the way back

685
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Speaker 2: to when the Real Estate Bros Were in high school.

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Speaker 15: Listen as news of the arrests start to spread, stories

687
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 15: from the Alexander brothers high school years come to light.

688
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 15: Their history of sexual violence dates back decades to their

689
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Speaker 15: high school days in Miami, where they bragged about several

690
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Speaker 15: gang rapes. Prosecutors say each of the victims that the

691
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Speaker 15: government has interviewed from this period reported hearing that individuals involved,

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Speaker 15: including Tal Alexander, talked about the assaults at school, boasting

693
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Speaker 15: about running train on their victims and saying they wanted

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Speaker 15: to do it again.

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Speaker 1: You know, Lynn Shaw.

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Speaker 2: As many raped and sodomy cases that I've investigated, I

697
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: have tried, have pled out.

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Speaker 1: To jail time have covered. It's still it's disgusting.

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Speaker 2: It makes something and you want to die to hear

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Speaker 2: about them bragging about quote running train on the victims,

701
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 2: which means multiple rapists on one victim, saying they quote

702
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 2: wanted to do it again. It never ceases to be

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Speaker 2: heartbreaking that a victim would go through this.

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Speaker 11: Well, we can't die, Nancy. We have to stand for

705
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 11: those that don't have a voice. I want us to

706
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 11: focus on two things here. I want us to focus on,

707
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 11: where was mama Alexander. We're talking about a sex bus

708
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 11: when these trio of triplets, dirty ditty triplets were right

709
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 11: part right in front of their their multimillion dollar mansion.

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Speaker 11: I'm telling you as a mother, I knew when my

711
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 11: kids moved a throw.

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Speaker 1: Pillow on my couch.

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Speaker 11: Where were the parents at this time and throughout all

714
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 11: of this? The second thing I want to and we

715
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 11: have to talk about that because people have to start

716
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 11: standing up. Where were these parents? They were the talk

717
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Speaker 11: of the town. We're hearing, you know, in the Miami,

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Speaker 11: Florida area, so we should focus on that. I also

719
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Speaker 11: want to focus on you're not going to see their

720
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 11: wives in court with them. Those women are taking their

721
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 11: kids and running for the hills. One is already filed

722
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Speaker 11: for divorce. Okay, they're going to turn evidence on them.

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Speaker 11: They're beautiful young women, they have some young children, a

724
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Speaker 11: newborn baby. They're not sticking around for this. And the

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Speaker 11: third thing I want to get back to we're not

726
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Speaker 11: talking enough about is that oldest brother with his security firm.

727
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Speaker 11: There is video evidence. Where are all those videos going?

728
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Speaker 11: I guarantee, I hope we have a forensic accountant coming along.

729
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 11: That they have been uploaded not only to control their

730
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Speaker 11: victims and to scare them, they have been uploaded to

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Speaker 11: porn sites where these monsters make millions and millions of

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Speaker 11: dollars across the globe. And that's these are things we

733
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Speaker 11: should be looking at.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the parents aren't charged with anything.

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Speaker 2: That said, let me give everyone the eight hundred line

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Speaker 2: one eight hundred two two five five three two four

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Speaker 2: repeat eight hundred two two five five three two four.

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Speaker 1: We wait as just as sun falls. Goodbye friend,